1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,479 Speaker 1: So unless you are listening to this in an airplane, 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: your feet are resting on something, and that is rested 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: on something, and eventually it's all resting on the planet Earth. 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: Thanks gravity. You're you're pretty dependable, if somewhat mysterious. This 5 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 1: classic episode is about all the stuff under the surface 6 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: of the planet. Uh, there's there's a lot going on. 7 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: There's a weird stuff there. There really is. And you 8 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: get bonus points if you listen to this episode without 9 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: headphones inside a cave of some sort. So just keep 10 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: that in mind, maybe hold off, you can pause right now, 11 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: find yourself a cave, and then play it again. You'll 12 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: get those bonus points. Just soaking that natural reverb. Love 13 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: a good catacomb. Here it is from UFOs two Ghosts 14 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: and Government cover ups. History is writted with unexplained events. 15 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: You can turn back now or learn the stuff they 16 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: don't want me to now. Hello, welcome back to the show. 17 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: My name is Matt and I am then and today 18 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: we're going deep. Yes, we're going deep literally, figuratively, metaphorically, 19 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: and I'm sure a couple of elites that I've forgot 20 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: to mention the big question here To start us off, 21 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: Matt is, can we be happy underground? Not the bend 22 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: Fold song, but the honest question. Sure, I think we 23 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: can be happy underground. There are lots of different people 24 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: who have been happy underground. You know, we hide in 25 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: our homes. We build these structures so it feels like 26 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: we're somewhat underground. We lived in caves. Humans lived in 27 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: caves for a very long time because we need shelter, 28 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: and what better shelter than the thing that's right beneath 29 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: you and closed and closed. In this episode, we are 30 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: going to talk about the world beneath your feet now, Matt, 31 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: you and I have are are midway through our series 32 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: this week, which is on catacombs primarily, but then on 33 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: also other other ancient hidden things. I think we brought 34 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: our classics Crystal skull episode back. Yeah, Crystal skulls. It's 35 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: that's a polarizing episode. Oh yeah, no kidding people, people 36 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: are mad at us. One of my favorite things about that, 37 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: as a side note, um is how many people felt 38 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: so strongly about the video or that they didn't watch, 39 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: that they saw the title and ran directly to the 40 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: comments to say, you guys are full of b s. 41 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: These things are not actual alien artifacts, which is pretty 42 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: much what we say in the video. But you know, 43 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: you'd have to watch it, you know, And I'm and 44 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: I'm always like, well, did you see Indiana Jones three four? 45 00:02:54,560 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know whichever one that came out, Yeah, 46 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: with the Indiana Jones the uh. But but all of 47 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: that aside um and you know, I'm I'm just joshing 48 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: a little bit with the YouTube commanders. I know, people 49 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: get heated, but all of that aside, It did bring 50 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: up some really interesting topics that we had touched on before. Now, 51 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 1: this is a little bit close to our episode on 52 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: deep underground military bases, but it's much bigger. It's more 53 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: of a grab bag. So first to understand if we 54 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: can really be happy underground, we have to understand what 55 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: underground is, which means we need a quick recap of 56 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: Earth's structure. And luckily it's pretty simple, right and thankfully, 57 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: there's this thing called geology that looks at rocks and 58 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: you know, what are we on but one giant rock 59 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: that has a multi middle. So we live, all of us, 60 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: you listening right now, We live on the surface of 61 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: the Earth, and then directly below that surface there's the 62 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: crust and sexy name. Oh yeah, that rusty crust, and 63 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: where it comes out of the mouth. Strangely, it's three 64 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: to six miles thick, and that's that's underneath the ocean. 65 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: And then it's around two forty some forty miles underneath 66 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: the surface of the land. And that's that's really thin 67 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: when you think about it. If you think about how 68 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: large the Earth actually is very thin. So imagine an apple. Okay, 69 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: it's kind of the skin. Think about the skin in 70 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: that tiny little layer that is the crust. Uh, And 71 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: under the skin in this apple comparison, we have the 72 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 1: mushy insides known as the mantle. The mantle is the 73 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: largest part of earth earth structure. It's really really hot, 74 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: which might be counterintuitive to some people because you know, 75 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: we know that people live in caves for a while 76 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: because it holds a cold temperature better in an arid environment. 77 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: But once you get down to where the pressure is increasing, Uh, 78 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: it's a whole differ from ball games. So the mantle, 79 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 1: even though it's hot, and it's hot enough that parts 80 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: of it would melt, it stays solid, primarily because the 81 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 1: pressure deep inside the planet is too great to permit melting. However, 82 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: when it does melt, you know, in a plate shifts 83 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: or something like that, boom, magma makes its way to 84 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: the outer crust. Sorry, Pompeii, that's just how it goes. 85 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: So then you keep going down and you get to 86 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: the core. Now the core has two different parts. There's 87 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: there's an inner core and an outer core. The outer 88 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: one is it's liquid. I mean, it's the kind of 89 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: the the magma stuff, but it's just underneath the earth. 90 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: That's just kind of pressure, super pressure, like Ben was saying, 91 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: with the mantle. And then you've got if you keep 92 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: going down all the way, you get to the very center, 93 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: which is theorized right to be solid. Yes, but it's 94 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: basically and this thing is crazy hot. It's it's almost 95 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: it's not as hot as the sun. It's almost as 96 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: hot as the sun right right, and again according to 97 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: the estimations, because no human being that we know of 98 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: has uh gotten remotely close to it. However, this is 99 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: interesting because you know, when we were talking about the 100 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: hollow earth theories, there were people who said, well, of 101 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: course the core appears to be as hot as the 102 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: sudden because there is a mini tour sun within the 103 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,559 Speaker 1: core of the Earth. Neither you nor I really bought 104 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:34,239 Speaker 1: just do due to what we understand about the magnetosphere 105 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: and the physics involved right in gravitational pull and stuff, 106 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: it seems very difficult to explain how that could that 107 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: sort of condition could be true. But but a fascinating story. 108 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: Fascinating story, and it is true that we know diad 109 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: lee about the core of the Earth. Really we we 110 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: make these guesses. You know, it's really hot, that's not 111 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: tough to guess. And oh it's maybe it's a nickel 112 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: alloy of some sort of you know, hopefully we'll find out. 113 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: But if we dig in and we say that, all right, 114 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: everything that people are doing, as far as the science goes, 115 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: everything that people are doing inside Earth so far is 116 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: just going to different areas of the crust. People do 117 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: live in cave homes, right, People go to ground all 118 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: the time. They live in caves um and have as 119 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: you mentioned Matt for for right, Oh yeah, yeah, they're 120 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: their cave homes all over Australia, um and throughout the world. 121 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: There are cave homes, ancient ancient cave sure structures where 122 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: people would live ale a little. They look like cities 123 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: almost you've seen these canyon settlements in the United States, 124 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: and there are there are a lot of reasons that 125 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: a human group would go there. There's temperature regulation. Um, 126 00:07:54,720 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: there's all kinds of escaping dangerous environments, maybe even dangerous animals, predators. Um, yes, 127 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: I'm safety was a huge issue. Different to have a 128 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: group moving towards a cave or at least underground. I 129 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: remember we've seen some older settlements, you know, ancient semblents 130 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: like those two that we always mispronounce, go both of us, Uh, 131 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: go go back lea tepe and kaya hilke is how 132 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: it's spelled. Yeah, I'm just gonna let you do that. 133 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: But one thing you do have to deal with now 134 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: that you're living basically underneath a large piece of rock 135 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: or underneath a cave, inside of a cave, and it's 136 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 1: the you gotta worry, worry about the earth itself kind 137 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: of fighting against your Yeah. So if there's any kind 138 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: of earthquakes shifts, bad news, right absolutely. And this means that, 139 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: of course, you could be in a cave in if 140 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: you dig too deep. Hobbit holes are real thing. Uh. 141 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: There's the idea of building a house sort of on 142 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: a structures, so it's not actually cave, it's not in bedrock, 143 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: it's just covered with dirt. Um. There are also these 144 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: ongoing plans to build massive permanent living areas underground. One 145 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: of the one of the most science fiction type ones 146 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: is this thing called Alice City, which already sounds like 147 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: it's an autom a right uh in Japan, And it's 148 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: these two domes and these shafts that go way deep 149 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: into the ground. And there are all sorts of plans 150 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: to try to make it okay to live in there. 151 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: Um because, as we're about to see, many people love 152 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: to visit underground, but uh not a lot of people 153 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: want to live there. And that way, it's kind of 154 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: similar to Orlando. Yeah, I've been there a couple of times. 155 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: I enjoyed. I enjoyed my time while I was there. Briefly, 156 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: this is the part met where during our show, somebody's 157 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: listening right now, and um, yes, it's true. We can 158 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: hear your thoughts just a little bit. We know that 159 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: you're thinking, Hey, people already have these massive underground living complexes. Governments, right, 160 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: private entities have have something like that. But we're not 161 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: talking about the doomsday bunkers. Uh, those things are contingency plants. 162 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 1: They're not people living in those twenty four hours a day. 163 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: Right now, we're talking about a commercial thing in underground city, um. 164 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: Much more than an apartment complex where you could be 165 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: born and die and never go to the surface world. 166 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 1: We're talking about that more people type stuff, right. That's 167 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: a great scenario. So okay, so let's talk a little 168 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: bit about how deep we've actually gone we Okay, you know, 169 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: no one's gone too deep into the mantle, um. But 170 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: let's just talk about the deepest hole that's ever been 171 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: at least thus far. It's it's called the Kola Super 172 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 1: Deep Borehole and that's it's where Russia basically reached a 173 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 1: depth of seven and a half miles And it's the 174 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: deep this man made hole on the planet currently and 175 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: it's probably gonna stay that way for a while, just 176 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: given the crazy temperatures involved with the process of trying 177 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: to get that deep. What do you mean, Well, it's crazy, hot, man. 178 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: And think about if you've got boring technology, just a 179 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: massive metal drill and you're just going down and down 180 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: and down. Eventually you're gonna hit a point where your 181 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: equipment is going to just fail and it's not going 182 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: to be able to function. Um. And then what if 183 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 1: you get into kind of the more liquid e molten areas, Oh, 184 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: where the where the pressure makes the rock behave more 185 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: like a plastic Yeah, and then what do you do 186 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: It gets all gunked up on your drill. You're trying 187 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 1: to get it out. If you get if you get 188 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 1: a little bit out, there's gonna be just more fills 189 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: it in, like like you would if you hit a 190 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: pool of water. Yeah. Yeah, And uh. The thing that 191 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: taught me about this, because I remember us talking about 192 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: this before, was one of the most surprising things scientists found, 193 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: other than that it's really difficult to drill a hole 194 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: that deep, is that they found signs of ancient life 195 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: or micro fossils. Um in this rock was two billion 196 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: years old. These were single celled plants, so plankton. Basically 197 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: that freaks me out, man. Yeah, that's that's intense. Just 198 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: you know what, maybe the world there's only six thousand 199 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: years old been oh wait, probably not. Well, you know, 200 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: those rocks might have come from somewhere else. That's what happened. 201 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: That's what happened. We're doing the rock theory, not the wrestling. 202 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: So this idea that there are signs of life, that 203 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: there are extreme of files that live under the surface 204 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: of Earth, and these remote, inaccessible areas. All of this 205 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: naturally makes human beings some of the most narcissistic of 206 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: Earth's creatures. Wonder why don't we live underground right now? Well, 207 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: it's because we've evolved to live above ground evolution. Sorry, 208 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: but yes, but truly it's me it's because of that. 209 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: If you think about your circadian rhythms, the way your 210 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: body releases chemicals when it thinks it's time to go 211 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: to bed, it's directly related with night, which means you're 212 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 1: probably on the surface, so that during the day when 213 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: the sun's out, you know, not only are you, are 214 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: you able to use the sun to figure out where 215 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: the heck you're walking around here? Um, But it's absence 216 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: causes the chemicals released. Now it's time for bed, right, Yeah, 217 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 1: we're diurnal, that's the that's the fancy word for it, 218 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 1: right and we um. We also have this weird relationship 219 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: with this thing called vitamin D, which I'm whare of 220 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 1: internet slang. It's not that vitamin D, I'm sorry read it, 221 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: but it's the actual vitamin that prevents rickets keeps your 222 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: immune system pimp and strong. And it's also, weirdly enough, 223 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: the only vitamin that we don't get from food or 224 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: flint Stone's chewables. We actually create a vitamin D. Get 225 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: this folks through photosynthesis. Yeah, plants like plants. No, I 226 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,839 Speaker 1: think I think you're You're wrong. No, well I'm I'm 227 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: not the one pedlin evolution. So uh So, the thing 228 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: is that, weirdly enough, the ultra violet radiation coming from 229 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: sunlight causes this photosynthesis that produces vitamin D in our cells. 230 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: So no sunlight, no vitamin D q rickets cheese. And 231 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: that's not the only thing that sunlight kind of allows 232 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: us to produce. Um. We produce seratonin also through sunlight. 233 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: Without sunlight, we basically get that thing that you've heard 234 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: it before, seasonal effective disorder where you're just feeling down 235 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: and depressed and oh man, when is when is the 236 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: sun coming back? And they say never, we're north of 237 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: the Arctic circle. Oh gosh, And then you're like, oh man, 238 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: I can't sleep right, can't sleep at all. Let me 239 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: just point out for anyone who didn't catch there, hasn't 240 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: heard of this, Matt, what was the name of that 241 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: disorder again, Seasonal effective disorder, which makes the acronym SAD, 242 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: which I still think it's funny. So it's it's just 243 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: a note on this one. You've probably seen this before 244 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: to Matt, where they've they've got these programs in some 245 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: um northern countries, countries that are closer and closer to 246 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: the Arctic circle, where they expose children to ultra violet light. Right, 247 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: these are school kids and they're being exposed to that 248 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: UV light we talked about earlier to help with the 249 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: assistance vitamin D and serotonin and to prevent them from 250 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: coming becoming s A D uh acquiring s A D, 251 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: acquiring SAD, acquiring SAD. I'm sorry, I'm no, we're making 252 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: light of it, but it's a real thing, and it 253 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: isn't it's I mean, it's pretty serious. It can lead 254 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: to you two bad things internally, no joke. Um. So, okay, Ben, 255 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: we need some light, We've we've we figured that out. 256 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: What else do we need? Oh we need air? Oh yeah, 257 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: that's that's important. Got to be able to breathe. You 258 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: gotta be able to send oxygen to all of yourselves. 259 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: So most humans have evolved. Oh, here we go. I'm 260 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: just gonna go with this. So most of us, um 261 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: using the word again, have evolved to accept the mixture 262 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: of a couple of different things in the air. You've 263 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: got nitrogen, you've got oxygen are gone even and c 264 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:36,479 Speaker 1: O two and at sea level the atmospheric pressure. Um, 265 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: it's that's where we need it. We need it to 266 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: be at the pressure of sea level or you know, 267 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: in a varying range. That's the sweet spot we evolved 268 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: to exactly. Okay, uh yeah, And that's you know, not 269 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: counting Tibetans and and Ian's who over um multiple generations 270 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: living in these high out tuo places. They got a 271 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: little weird with it and they are better at um 272 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: getting oxygen from a thin environment. Right. Um. But yeah, 273 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 1: so in general we've evolved to live in this area 274 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 1: on land, breathing just the the tap water version of air. Right. 275 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: So what happens, What what does this have to do 276 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 1: with us being underground? Well, it's atmospheric pressure. So it's 277 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: the opposite of going way up into the Indian mountains, right, 278 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: So if you go deep, deep into the ground, the 279 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 1: pressure is going to increase, uh, like crazy and so 280 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: if you spend too much time, you know, too far 281 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: below sea level, it makes the components of the air 282 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: separate from our blood. And this is the thing that 283 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: you've probably heard before called the bends, where if you're 284 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: diving deep um under the ocean, and you can't come 285 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: up very fast because if you do, all of the 286 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: all of the molecules separate, So you would have to 287 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: That's why you have to decompress. Right, you have to 288 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: go up more slowly, you will, you go up really slowly. 289 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: Then usually have to spend time in a decompression chamber 290 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 1: just to make sure everything stays the way it should. 291 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 1: And miners have to do the same decompression staging two 292 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: right if they go too deep. Okay, so here's the 293 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: here's the next question I have then, Um, for you, Matt, 294 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 1: and for everybody listening, will we eventually have to live 295 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: undergrounds evolutionarily uh disadvantaged as we may be for that? 296 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: Oh man, you're gonna make me bring up another subject 297 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: that everyone gets really happy about or really mad about. 298 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: What's that climate change. Depending on what happens on the 299 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: surface of the Earth, we may be forced to at 300 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,959 Speaker 1: least spend some more time underground, and we've got all 301 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: kinds of technologies now that can assist us in living underground. 302 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: Um it won't be easy though. You know, in Alice 303 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 1: City they were talking about simulating weather patterns. You know, 304 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: So would it be easier to always live underground if 305 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: you felt that there was a window which you know 306 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: is fake intellectually, but this window shows your sunlight, nighttime 307 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: rain on the glass. I think it would make things easier. 308 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: But it'd be cool if you could program it, program 309 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: your own room or your maybe your level or something 310 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: that of a hollow deck. Oh man, one day, one day. 311 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 1: So billions of people are spreading across the planet right 312 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: and space is already at a ridiculous premium in some places. Um. 313 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: San Francisco, I think is one of the most expensive 314 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: in the United States. But that has nothing on Hong Kong, 315 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: nothing on Tokyo. And these are incredibly, incredibly dense areas. 316 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: So people started building up and down because you can't 317 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: build out anymore. Horizontal don't work. Um. So there are 318 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: all kinds of people who have proposed these ideas of 319 00:19:56,119 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: massive underground cities, but honestly, at this point, the closest 320 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: thing we've got are the dumbs that we talked about, 321 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: the deep underground military basis and you know bunkers that 322 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: some people have made. There are a couple of missile 323 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: silos that are being changed into a you know in 324 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: case s hits the fan scenarios there's they're like really 325 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 1: nice vertical mansions. Um, you can find you can find 326 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: these occasionally for sale on the internet. Um, dude, and 327 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: if I if I hit the lottery or something, Yeah, 328 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: I guess what this guy is getting one of those? 329 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: Can I can I rent a spot from? Oh? Yeah, 330 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: everybody gets to join. If you know me, we're going 331 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 1: you just made a lot of friends. That's okay, We're 332 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: gonna start a whole new world together deep underground. So 333 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: if we do start this whole new world together deep underground, 334 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: then it's more of a comeback than it is an 335 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: innovation because we have delved into Earth forever and that 336 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: brings us to something a little bit different. We'll talk 337 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: about one of our ancient Earth delving experiments, the catacomb. 338 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 1: So what is a catacomb. Well, a catacomb is it 339 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: can really be described as any underground passage way that 340 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: was you could say it was typically used for burial 341 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: in the beginning, in the beginning at least, But now 342 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: there are a lot of things described as catacombs that aren't. 343 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: You know that in my head, I wouldn't have viewed 344 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: them as catacombs back in the day. Oh yeah, because 345 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: they are really old, like the first places that we 346 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: know of that we're called catacombs or these underground tumbs 347 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: in uh the Appian Way in the Empire of Rome, 348 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: and that's um, that's something I think we mentioned our vlog. 349 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: The Appian Way is really interesting. I was watching a 350 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 1: Rick Steves. I know he's a competitor I guess in 351 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: some weird way with us, but Rick Steves with his 352 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: I think his PBS show. Yeah, Rick Steves is awesome. 353 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: I would have him on our show. I really enjoy 354 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: his show. But anyway, he did a whole thing on 355 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: the catacombs in Rome in the Appian Way, and I 356 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: put a tiny little I been there and I watched 357 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: the whole thing. It was awesome. I would highly recommend 358 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: you watching it. And this that parts the part of 359 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 1: the Apping Ways uh so old that it has been 360 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: rumored the apostles Paul and Peter were buried in there. Yeah, 361 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: that's I mean that goes all the way back to 362 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: the Common Era, like early days of the Common Era. 363 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: That's that's old now by the eighteen hundreds, I think 364 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: that's when that shift occurred that you and I were 365 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: talking about, where the word catacomb can refer to any 366 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: structure that was underground held the dead in mass graves 367 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 1: and this was more um. This, this enlargement of the 368 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 1: term was something that we find happens pretty often just 369 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: in English. Yeah, and you'll find these catacombs all over 370 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: the world, but probably the one you've heard of the 371 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 1: most are the catacombs in Paris. We've had a couple 372 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: of people talk to us about visiting the categories are um. 373 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 1: We actually we need to thank give a big thanks 374 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: to our listener heather S, who wrote to us with 375 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: a fantastic, h very dense like email with all these 376 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: facts and then set up set up some pictures that 377 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 1: we could use and stuff. So thank you very much, Heather. 378 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: That was really really cool. Um and I think we 379 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: wrote back thanking her. Oh yeah, and I will be 380 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: making use of some of those images in the video 381 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: coming up this week. That's a that's an official special 382 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: thanks that we should probably have show up in the video. Yeah, 383 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 1: you're right, though, I wish we could show you a 384 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: sign right now that just said thanks Heather. We can't 385 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 1: do it. I don't know how to get that information 386 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 1: to you. If only everybody at synaesthesia you know what 387 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: I mean. Anyway, Yes, So back to catechy homes. Um, 388 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: I think, as we alluded to earlier, most catacombs have 389 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: been used for multiple things. Right, It's not all just 390 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: mass graves, but that's that's sort of the main thing. Yeah, 391 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: and well after once a catacomb has been around for 392 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: a while, if it ever goes into disuse or maybe 393 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: there aren't a lot of there's not a lot of 394 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:26,199 Speaker 1: foot traffic in there anymore, you'll find people like squatters 395 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: hanging out there. Um, you'll even find this is my 396 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: favorite underground political movements, uh, like gatherings of rebels would 397 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: use a catacomb because it's one of the most secret 398 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: places you could go and meet if you didn't want 399 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: anybody on the surface knowing what's going on, if you 400 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: don't want the guys on the surface getting get in 401 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: a little too too keen on your business. Which what's 402 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: weird is that this sort of this sort of structure 403 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 1: offers such an enormous opportunity as a hideout that there 404 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: were times in your during World War Two when the 405 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: French Resistance was working on stuff during one part of 406 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: the war, or in one area of the city of Paris, 407 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 1: and then the Nazis also had their catacomb base. It's clear, 408 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: you know, we had some tough times trying to find 409 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 1: some information on squatter communities in the catacombs currently around 410 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 1: the world. But I would say almost certainly, especially in 411 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 1: very dense, expensive cities, they're almost certainly squatters. Oh yeah. 412 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: So if you look at a city like New York 413 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 1: that has such an extensive underground part to it, there 414 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 1: are subway systems. Yeah, there there were areas I don't know. 415 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: Oh man, what the heck was it called New York's 416 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 1: Abandoned subway Station. There were jeez, there was a great 417 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: documentary that I saw on Netflix ages ago about this 418 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: one abandoned subway station that was being used and it 419 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: was basically a whole city of people living in there 420 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: and they all get kicked out for some reason. But man, 421 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: it was awesome. Dark days. I think maybe something like that, 422 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, that's absolutely right, Matt and uh, listeners, 423 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, we know that some of you maybe 424 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: listening to this show under the influence of chemicals. If 425 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: you are, we don't want you to be freaked out 426 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: by thinking of the invisible world that runs beneath your feet. 427 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: Think of the forgotten subway stations, think of the underground bunkers. 428 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: The next time you're in a crowded city and you 429 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: walk by one of those greats, look down, how far 430 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: do you think it goes? And where do you think 431 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: it goes? But yeah, but don't worry. Don't worry about 432 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: that too. To bring it the pay no attention to 433 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: the people behind the sewer grade. Yeah, that makes me 434 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: think pennywise. Okay, before we move on, I know we're 435 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 1: moving on. I just I want to say how excited 436 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: I am. E Three was going on, and maybe it's 437 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: still going on. I was watching videos from it. Did 438 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 1: you see the New Assassin's Creed? No, I have not. 439 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 1: The New Assassin's Creed is based around the French Revolution 440 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 1: in Paris, and I cannot wait to see if they 441 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 1: make use of any of the catacombs or I don't know, 442 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 1: maybe well, just that let alone the catacombs just that 443 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: time period. I'm so excited to play it, and everybody 444 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 1: knows I'm a huge gamer. I'm sorry, but it's great. Oh. 445 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,959 Speaker 1: One thing also that we should mention. I hope they 446 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: do make use of the catacombs. One thing we should 447 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: mention is that catacombs in the in the world the 448 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: way that we're talking now, using of course, that in 449 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: enlarge definition, which includes things which are not necessarily from 450 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: the Roman Empire. Uh well, it's a heck of a 451 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: run on sentence. Colon point being cool and uh These 452 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: catacombs are surprisingly accessible, at least small parts of them. 453 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: You can easily visit as a tourist, as long as 454 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: you stay within the areas that the authorities have marked 455 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: as safe, their primary concerns, of course, being things like cavens, 456 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: because a lot of these are very old safety concerns 457 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: about unexpected drops, you know, satanic cult areas they don't 458 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 1: want you to go. That's the question. Yeah, safety is it? Safety? 459 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: What else is? What else is out there? You know? Um, 460 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I was just joking. Hopefully no one was 461 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: taking me serious. Oh yeah, I was, because there there 462 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: wouldn't be anywhere yeah, okay, Okay, we'll move on. Uh So, 463 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: let's bracket Catacombs for a second, because we do need 464 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,719 Speaker 1: to go back to that exploration. Okay, Ben, are you 465 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: referring to the Hollow Earth exploration? You know, I love 466 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: that you brought this up. This has been one of 467 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: my favorite conspiracy theories since the very beginning of our show, Matt. 468 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: They just lay it on me, man, Hollow Earth, what's up? 469 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: What's going on? Well, there's so many different parts too. 470 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: I guess we'll start with there were some explorations by 471 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: the Nazis to Antarctica. Yes, to found New Swabia. Yes 472 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: to found New Schwabia, because you know, it's more land. 473 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: We're we're an empire of sorts. We need to control 474 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: as much as we can. Well, here's nobody's over here. 475 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: Let's might as well take that piece. But there could 476 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: have been more to it than that. What if they 477 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: thought that there was some sort of entrance into the 478 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: Earth that led to the whole other underside of the Earth, 479 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: where there's a whole another race of humanoids, human beings 480 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: of sorts, which are are somehow acceptable and cool to 481 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: the incredibly racist Nazis. Yeah, well, I'm just gonna just 482 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: gonna point that out. That always bugged me. They just 483 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: welcome them in salute, and yeah, maybe they were just waving, 484 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: but levity aside that, that is one of the biggest 485 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: conspiracy theories, and that's when we tackled in one of 486 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: our very very early episodes, um and the Hollow Earth 487 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: is this group of conspiracy theories, some of which say 488 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: that the world is completely hollow and there's a hidden 489 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: universe or excuse me, a hidden civilization. There are only 490 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: another Earth essentially, Yeah, that's exactly a yeah, another uh 491 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: an inverse version of Earth. And aside from all of 492 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: the scientific reasons that that seems impossible. Aside that, right, yeah, 493 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: which we I think we do list in our episode 494 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: on that there's there's this weird thing that um we 495 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: there there are these weird things that we stumble on 496 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: that could be the grains of truth, right, and that 497 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: later become the basis of these theories. So it is true, 498 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: as you say that Germany did intend to found a 499 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: place called New Swabia on Antarctica. Um, whether or not 500 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: that would have been a wise decision is is anybody's guests, 501 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: just because of how inhospitable it is to live in Antarctica. 502 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: Even with technology today, it's extremely difficult to maintain bases there. 503 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: I think they're only a handful. Yeah, and their research stations. Yeah. Um, 504 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: you can travel to Antarctica on tour, which is something 505 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: that I wanted to do for a while. Funny story 506 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: met when you and I were uh first doing that episode. 507 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: Remember we found the We found this group of guys 508 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: on the internet who were getting ready to take an 509 00:31:55,600 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: expedition to Antarctica to find whether or not there was 510 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: an entrance into Um, they didn't say a hollow earth necessarily. 511 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: They said more like a large cave system where something 512 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: might be living. And um, yes, sign me up. I 513 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: want to watch, I want to go. I'll take a camera, 514 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: let's do it. Yeah. I sent an application in but 515 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: got no response, so I I checked before we went 516 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: on air, and I couldn't find any updates on it. 517 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: But um, what's what's weird about that is that that 518 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: leads us to all of the stuff we don't know 519 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: about this surface, which is why when we hear people 520 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: talking about you know, secret underground even cities and stuff 521 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: like that, we can say probably not, but we can't 522 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: completely say no way. I mean, it's just just with okay, 523 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: just with UM. One of the longest known cave systems, 524 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: Mammoth Cave System in Kentucky. We don't really know what 525 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: goes on in Mamoth Cave system. We know it's big, 526 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: and we know it spreads out way further than it should. Yeah. Well, 527 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: I love that their technology, their technologies now that we 528 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,239 Speaker 1: can use to begin mapping that stuff. Yeah. Have you've 529 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: seen the little drone guys, well, miniature drones that Yeah, man, 530 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: it's so cool it It feels to me like I 531 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: don't know how many of you are been. Did you 532 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: see Prometheus. Yes, the little little drones they send out, 533 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: they go down the systems we're getting. We're not there, 534 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: but we're getting close to their, right, We do. We 535 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: do have more and more technology that allows us to 536 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: explore things UM in a much safer way than we 537 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: would have been able to previously. But even to go 538 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: back to our discussion about catacombs and minds and stuff, 539 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: in Odessa, that's one of the world's largest structures of 540 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: this sort. They have an entire thing, entire network of 541 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: tunnels and caverns that are you know, roped off to 542 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 1: the public lack of better word, that's K to nine 543 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: and no one is sure yet. Uh, in the absence 544 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,280 Speaker 1: of one of these cave drones, exactly how far ktree 545 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: nine goes or where it goes and is most the 546 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: vast majority of this is man made. They may have 547 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: perhaps found, uh, you know, some natural caves, but I 548 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: don't think so. I think these are all man made. 549 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 1: So whomever made them forgot or because it's you know, 550 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: it's mining. So about once every five years, uh, some 551 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:45,280 Speaker 1: unlucky tour guide or cataphile, uh finds another body because 552 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: people it's so big that people get lost, and it's 553 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: The Parisian catacombs are really nice in that they have 554 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: these signs that tell you where you're at, you know. Uh, 555 00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: not so in Odessa. It's just a long dark somebody 556 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: needs to get on that start mapping it out, and 557 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 1: some drones. They're even places in Vietnam, the San Dum Cave. Yeah, yeah, 558 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: it's another one of the largest cave systems in the world. 559 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: It's five and a half miles long and it's crazy. 560 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,760 Speaker 1: There's an inside of it. Get this, there's a jungle. 561 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,919 Speaker 1: Oh in the part of it that's like open air, right. Yeah, 562 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: there's also you've got a river inside of it as well, 563 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: because you know, as we know, a lot of the 564 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,280 Speaker 1: cave systems were formed by water, it would make sense. 565 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: But this one has a nice big river. And this 566 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 1: is crazy. You could fit a forty story skyscraper inside 567 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: of this thing, like vertically or horizontally. Well, I would 568 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 1: do it kind of on it's on an angle. Yeah, Um, 569 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: that's that's interesting. So we have these These are just 570 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 1: a few examples of the fact that will disturb some 571 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: people and excite others um listeners. If you remember, in 572 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 1: the old days of exploration, cartographers would often put here 573 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: be serpents or terry and cognita for monsters, the unknown 574 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: stuff at the edge of the map. Exactly that unknown 575 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: stuff still exists. There really are edges of maps with 576 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: no end or no knowable end, and uh, some of 577 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: them are in these gigantic cave systems, which makes it 578 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 1: just possible enough that we could say there's something there 579 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: that we don't know about or something. You know, I'd 580 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: be very surprised if there was something they don't want 581 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:51,280 Speaker 1: you to know, but um, maybe maybe there is. It's 582 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: there's probably not. I'm gonna say that there's probably not 583 00:36:55,239 --> 00:37:00,320 Speaker 1: uh some some big secret, but if there is, it 584 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: would be on the edges of those maps. And we 585 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 1: know that it's worth learning because as recently as two 586 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,800 Speaker 1: thousand and twelve scientists were discovering new forms of life 587 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:17,240 Speaker 1: within caves. So after a certain points, we really don't 588 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 1: have in an idea what's down there? You know? And 589 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 1: so here is to encouraging young people to explore caves 590 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: and become scientists. Yeah, go cave diving, I mean, come back, 591 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: but cave diving is an incredibly dangerous pursuit. But underwater caves, 592 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: of course, are even more enigmatic in a lot of ways. 593 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:47,359 Speaker 1: So again the I guess the emphasis here is that 594 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 1: all the evidence we're finding does not tell us the 595 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 1: earth is hollow, but all the evidence we're finding also 596 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: tells us that there is a lot more underneath our 597 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: feet than than we're aware. Yet, that's right. So what 598 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 1: do you think? Are there any places near you that 599 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 1: are maybe not as explored underground places? Uh, go ahead 600 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,359 Speaker 1: and write to us on Facebook. We're conspiracy stuff there. 601 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: We are at conspiracy stuff on Twitter. 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