Speaker 1: Really Now, Really, Really.
Speaker 2: Now Really, Hello and welcome to this episode of Really
Speaker 2: You Know Really, with Jason Alexander and Peter Tilden, both
Speaker 2: of whom would love you to subscribe to Really Know Really,
Speaker 2: but are too proud to beg you for it. In
Speaker 2: today's episode, you'll meet the scientist who set the world
Speaker 2: record for the longest time spent living underwater, Plus how
Speaker 2: the Titans submersible actually met its tragic fate, a debate
Speaker 2: on the merits of Aquaman's superpowers, and the secret to
Speaker 2: holding your breath for over six minutes. And now here
Speaker 2: are two guys whose lives seem to be a desperate
Speaker 2: attempt to keep afloat your hosts, Jason Alexander and Peter Tilden.
Speaker 3: So listen before we Uh, it's a big day, big
Speaker 3: day for us.
Speaker 4: It's a big day. Another episode. It's a Big Day's special.
Speaker 4: I'll give you that's an indication of what my average
Speaker 4: day is like. I got it.
Speaker 3: But you want a little up date on one of
Speaker 3: our previous Uh.
Speaker 4: Okay, so we did it. We did.
Speaker 3: We've interviewed a gentleman who was on the team, the
Speaker 3: NASA team that is evaluating all this UFOs that evaluation
Speaker 3: came out and they said mostly nothing yet. However, the
Speaker 3: way I just read and this kind of made big news.
Speaker 3: Over the last few days in Mexico, they released photographs
Speaker 3: of two bodies that they have said were not of
Speaker 3: human origin, not their extra bodies. Made a lot of news,
Speaker 3: a lot of speculation, right, and then some scientists went
Speaker 3: in and did X rays. It seems that the legs
Speaker 3: of these aliens are a human arm bone and a
Speaker 3: human leg right. And the skull, which was really the giveaway,
Speaker 3: kind of.
Speaker 4: Looked like e T.
Speaker 3: They've determined sort of shaved down skull of a lama.
Speaker 3: So a space yeah, yeah, I mean that doesn't prove
Speaker 3: anything space line absolutely, you've never heard of spaceline this before.
Speaker 1: I have.
Speaker 4: Now there you go. Yeah, And apparently they walked on
Speaker 4: their hands.
Speaker 5: Absolutely and crashed. You know what's amazing about exterrestials. They
Speaker 5: always get so close and then they go, oh, oh,
Speaker 5: we're going.
Speaker 4: To hit and crash.
Speaker 3: So normally we always talk about space exploration, but the
Speaker 3: truth is right here on Earth we have largely unexplored.
Speaker 3: The majority of our planet is our oceans.
Speaker 5: Over seventy percent of our planet is ocean, and they
Speaker 5: know more about space than what do you know about
Speaker 5: about the ocean, which is amazing.
Speaker 3: It is amazing, which and we don't know much about space.
Speaker 3: So our really no really of the day is a
Speaker 3: gentleman has recently surfaced after voluntarily living underwater for one
Speaker 3: hundred days.
Speaker 4: Really really no really, and he's joining us now. His
Speaker 4: scientist he's a doctor, he is.
Speaker 3: His name is doctor Joseph detri He is a retired
Speaker 3: naval officer. He has broken the record for spending time
Speaker 3: I'm underwater, having spent more than three months living inside
Speaker 3: a one hundred square foot pod in the depths of
Speaker 3: the Atlantic Ocean to research the effects of pressurized environments
Speaker 3: on the human body. He was twenty two feet below
Speaker 3: the waters in Key Largo, Florida. He's a biomedical engineer
Speaker 3: teaches at the University of South Florida. He has a
Speaker 3: nickname Doctor deep Sea, which well, I'm not even going
Speaker 3: to go into that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yep.
Speaker 3: And he was at the bottom of the Emerald Lagoon
Speaker 3: in the Jewels under Sea launch. So far, this sounds
Speaker 3: like a Disney attraction to me. I think he spent
Speaker 3: one day, he did not, and then it's an underwater
Speaker 3: hotel here in the United States. He's broken the Guinness
Speaker 3: Book of World Records, which previously was seventy four days,
Speaker 3: and he is to come up under one hundred days.
Speaker 3: We have doctor, doctor Joseph de Truri.
Speaker 4: How are you see you?
Speaker 1: It's a small world, after all, we're.
Speaker 5: First of all, you couldn't have stayed one hundred and
Speaker 5: five just to pad the record.
Speaker 3: One hundred is the path of the record. One hundred
Speaker 3: days and went, you know what, I'm done, I'm through.
Speaker 4: I had enough.
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting you did the space tie in
Speaker 1: thing right from the very beginning, because you're right, we do.
Speaker 1: We know more about space than we know about our
Speaker 1: own ocean. Yeah, as of twenty twelve, three people had
Speaker 1: been to the bottom of the Marianna's Trench. That numbers
Speaker 1: climbed just a little bit in recent time, but not
Speaker 1: much so. When people ask me why did you stay
Speaker 1: one hundred days, I said, well, honestly, it's because I
Speaker 1: can't afford to state two.
Speaker 4: Hundred the reason you and as they were charging for
Speaker 4: the row.
Speaker 1: Well they were charging, yes, definitely, it was funded in
Speaker 1: part by me personally. But the two hundred day thing
Speaker 1: that's how long it's going to take us to get
Speaker 1: to Mars going.
Speaker 3: So let's stay with that. I'm shocked at the hotel
Speaker 3: didn't go. Hey, this is like a big deal for us.
Speaker 5: Hey, other people booked that. The Kummelsons are checking it
Speaker 5: on Thursday's got to be out of there. Come on
Speaker 5: the Wednesday checking noon check in. Can you say.
Speaker 1: There's cost to running? You know, the driven and people
Speaker 1: are the marching army, right, like you got to pay
Speaker 1: a sound guy. That sound guy gets paid every time
Speaker 1: you go on. Maybe he doesn't get paid when you're
Speaker 1: not on.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So speaking of the money though, let me let me
Speaker 5: let me tie this in because this is and you
Speaker 5: would know this. So in the sixty seventies, Jacquesteau was
Speaker 5: really about let's build underwater cities, let's build pods, and
Speaker 5: sea lamb happened and all of that, and because of money,
Speaker 5: all of a sudden it lost people, lost interest and
Speaker 5: it went away for years. Now, all of a sudden,
Speaker 5: I guess James Cameron, because of the Titanic and the
Speaker 5: other pod that's going down to do the Mariana trensch
Speaker 5: had has done the other four ocean depths to yeah,
Speaker 5: all of yeah, all of a sudden, there's interest again
Speaker 5: and again you did it again.
Speaker 4: So is this starting?
Speaker 5: And I know that there's uh in Tokyo they're trying
Speaker 5: to build an underwater city, the Spiral City, with hotels
Speaker 5: and stuff like.
Speaker 4: That, which looks crazy. Is this really?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 4: Is this?
Speaker 5: Is this interest ramped up again all of a sudden
Speaker 5: that we're looking now saying this planet, we're screwed.
Speaker 4: We should really look at what's going on underwater.
Speaker 1: From your lips to God's ears. I mean, look, we
Speaker 1: get many biomedical things that come out of the ocean, sponges,
Speaker 1: We find new species of sponge. They're perfectly suited for
Speaker 1: curing what ails us. They're powerful anti virals, they're powerful medicines.
Speaker 1: So here's an interesting thing. We went to the bottom
Speaker 1: of the Marianas Trench in twenty twelve. Well, when I say, well,
Speaker 1: it wasn't me, it was James Cameron. When I retired
Speaker 1: from the Navy, I got a call from James Cameron saying,
Speaker 1: or his people saying, hey, Jim wants you to come
Speaker 1: out to his house, look at his submersible and evaluate it.
Speaker 1: Want you to write up what's going on and what
Speaker 1: he's done, and I'm like, I was a submersible expert.
Speaker 1: I said, sure, I'll go Jim Cameron for whatever.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: My daughter's like, tell him, I love Titanic. I get
Speaker 1: out there and it turns out that when he went
Speaker 1: to the bottom of the Marianas Trench, he found a
Speaker 1: sea lice down there and he captured it. Sea lice
Speaker 1: in the state of Florida. A teeny tighty Nitanoid little
Speaker 1: they'll bite you, they'll leave the mark the bottom of
Speaker 1: the Mario's Trench. They're like eleven inches big. He grappled it,
Speaker 1: brought it to the surface. We pulled the DNA sample off.
Speaker 1: It's a partial cure for Alzheimer's.
Speaker 5: Really so so to that point in researching this, the
Speaker 5: thing that drove me crazy, the oh wow of your trip.
Speaker 5: You're only twenty two feet down yep, for one hundred days.
Speaker 5: Every illness that we talk about in the last five
Speaker 5: years has to do with inflammation. Everything's inflamation, inflamation, inflamation.
Speaker 5: So I look at your trip and I see your
Speaker 5: oxidative stress went down, your cholesterol dropped by seventy points,
Speaker 5: your collagen went up, and you didn't exercise at all.
Speaker 4: This is all life the waight?
Speaker 3: Did you was your Did you did your diet change
Speaker 3: while you were doing there?
Speaker 1: Not at all?
Speaker 3: And the cholesterol dropped seventy points?
Speaker 1: Yeah, as ever the exact number.
Speaker 4: But yeah, that's a wow.
Speaker 1: Every single inflammatory marker in my body cut in half.
Speaker 4: So what happened when you came up?
Speaker 1: Uh? It actually dropped off a little bit. Both of
Speaker 1: those dropped off a little bit, so they're not quite
Speaker 1: as good, but they're still really good.
Speaker 4: Was there any negative effect on your body? Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'm six foot one inch taller I was
Speaker 1: when I started. I'm now six foot and a quarter inch.
Speaker 1: I lost three quarters of an inch.
Speaker 4: Oh, I can't go. I can't go. I can't go.
Speaker 4: I'm I'm wow.
Speaker 1: You remember it's a small world after all.
Speaker 5: Other So did you and I know someding did you
Speaker 5: sleep well and dream when you were down there?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, sleep plates fifty to seventy millions of America.
Speaker 4: I'm more horrible for me.
Speaker 1: I sleep poorly, about thirty percent deep in Rent when
Speaker 1: I was underwater, and when every single person was underwater,
Speaker 1: we did sleep studies. They slept sixty to sixty five
Speaker 1: percent in deep and rent.
Speaker 4: What what's the pressure we're doing up here?
Speaker 6: How much pressure do we crawl up?
Speaker 4: I'm ready to go. Now, give me what evolutionary upside
Speaker 4: there us being up?
Speaker 5: How much pressure were you at in a non pressurized
Speaker 5: capsule twenty two feet under?
Speaker 1: Well, I actually wasn't a pressure ized capsule. So that
Speaker 1: capsule had to be pressurized because the bottom of it
Speaker 1: was open. So we're keeping the work out by keeping
Speaker 1: the pressure. That's okay, No, it's a great thing. And
Speaker 1: it's one point seven times where you are one point
Speaker 1: seven to one point eight times where you are right now.
Speaker 4: That is absolutely amazing.
Speaker 1: But and it was fun.
Speaker 4: Well that's what I was gonna But it was fun.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 3: I don't want to I don't want to undermine the
Speaker 3: accomplishment of living in that kind of environment for one
Speaker 3: hundred days. But you did have It wasn't quite like
Speaker 3: being isolated. People came in. I saw photos of you
Speaker 3: with some some students. I think you'd in your mother,
Speaker 3: my mother.
Speaker 4: She looked sixty but in years. By the way, I
Speaker 4: wanted to suit because I gave this mother's age.
Speaker 1: My mother, my mother, my mother goes down to Florida
Speaker 1: takes diving lessons, comes down to business.
Speaker 4: Like a singer.
Speaker 5: All we could think of is this, I'm finally in
Speaker 5: the capsule. I can get a break for my mother
Speaker 5: for a little bit. But you're knocking in the window.
Speaker 4: Hello, you don't call just because you're underwater, you can't
Speaker 4: answer it. Text, mister big shot, is.
Speaker 1: The last time you cleaned this place?
Speaker 4: That's what I don't understand.
Speaker 3: Now, your mother must be extraordinary because I have I
Speaker 3: have a doctor who says, go do try it, have
Speaker 3: it be it if it's not going to kill. I
Speaker 3: once said to him, I'm going to take a scuba diving.
Speaker 4: Now I have my old asthma.
Speaker 3: I said, I'm going to take a scuba diving unlesson
Speaker 3: they say before I can sign the paper, my doctor
Speaker 3: has to sign off on it. So you'll sign off it, right,
Speaker 3: And you went, no.
Speaker 4: No, I don't want your breathing compressed there. That is
Speaker 4: no okay.
Speaker 3: But yeah, your mother over forty just so I couldn't
Speaker 3: go down, I couldn't come see you in the hotel.
Speaker 4: Is that what I'm hearing?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's probably the truth. Because regulasma, if it's controlled
Speaker 1: with an inhaler. Maybe be well, that's me.
Speaker 4: I'm controlled with an inhaler.
Speaker 1: It's one of these fine line things.
Speaker 4: I've snoopered.
Speaker 3: I've done snooper Yeah, but what you're saying to me
Speaker 3: is the whole world of our underwater future is off
Speaker 3: limits to me because I can't unlike your mother who
Speaker 3: was of indiscriminate age, I can't make it.
Speaker 4: Down to the hotel right now. I'm going, Yeah, I'm Peter,
Speaker 4: have fun. I'll stay up here. I'll be up here,
Speaker 4: and in.
Speaker 1: Hell, in an abundance of caution, we would favor your
Speaker 1: health and we'd say, hey, you'd have to get yourself
Speaker 1: evaluated by a pulmonologist.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Now, I understand that I can't do compressed there through
Speaker 3: a regulator in my mouth. But if I was in
Speaker 3: a submersible, is that environment okay for me?
Speaker 1: Sure that environment is okay because you're in the same
Speaker 1: environment that you and I are sitting in right now.
Speaker 1: It's one atmosphere.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 1: You don't get the health benefits, you don't get the
Speaker 1: additional breathing of oxygen, you don't get the cords all drop,
Speaker 1: and the one thing you failed to mention. Wait, so
Speaker 1: with the quarter's all drop, and I mean I'm talking
Speaker 1: from the eighties to the single digits. My court's will drop.
Speaker 1: You have a corresponding increase or spike in testosterone.
Speaker 3: Okay, you know how do I hell? I don't need
Speaker 3: to breathe down there. It's fine, I gotta go. All
Speaker 3: the other benefits will outweigh of the breathing. Since you're
Speaker 3: not going, I'm going, You're not going. The minute we finishes,
Speaker 3: I'm going down. I'm booking. I'm ticket to Florida. I'm
Speaker 3: booking that room, and I'm going. It's twenty two feet
Speaker 3: What the hell's going to happen? Twenty two feet? This
Speaker 3: guy wasn't in the trench. It's not like he was
Speaker 3: in the trench.
Speaker 4: Twenty two feet down. Let me tell you something. But
Speaker 4: the guy who plays.
Speaker 3: Cards at the bottom of his bool, I've seen it
Speaker 3: on YouTube. This guy's not such a big deal. I
Speaker 3: could do what he did.
Speaker 5: Let me just tell you something, doctor, I've seen Jason
Speaker 5: try and go in the ocean. Take some twenty minutes
Speaker 5: to acclimate. He splashes the long text me.
Speaker 3: It texts me an hour to get the website one.
Speaker 3: But that's neither here nor that.
Speaker 5: So what's what's the people listening? What does the place
Speaker 5: look like? You said has got an open bottom? What
Speaker 5: is it like living? Are you in a whatsuit the
Speaker 5: whole time? Explain that your day in that environment?
Speaker 1: Oh great, it's it's basically two tubes and one tube
Speaker 1: is for sleeping, and it's basically probably like eighteen feet
Speaker 1: long worth of usable space, and then it's eight feet
Speaker 1: in diameter, but it's a two so you really can't
Speaker 1: use most of it. So you have this teeny little
Speaker 1: walkway and that's it. Basically you have about fifty square
Speaker 1: feet on one side and about fifty square feet on
Speaker 1: the other side, and that's it.
Speaker 3: That would go for about five thousand a month in
Speaker 3: New York City.
Speaker 5: In New York City, and that would be And now,
Speaker 5: were you claustrophobic or because you're looking out, I guess
Speaker 5: there's windows and stuff.
Speaker 1: Now, ho is the Navy saturation dive. I've been on submarines,
Speaker 1: I've been in torpedo tube that really get it?
Speaker 4: Forget it? Oh no, oh no, oh no, that's like
Speaker 4: Baby Amri all day long.
Speaker 1: Underwater in a teedy little bubble.
Speaker 4: Wow, dude, that's yours.
Speaker 3: That would not that doesn't bother me, that that would
Speaker 3: not bother me.
Speaker 5: I can't even I'm hyperventilating thinking about yeah, no, that
Speaker 5: that I don't have a thing. So I also know
Speaker 5: that during your mission one hundred days and there were
Speaker 5: people coming and now, but that said, the thing that
Speaker 5: you said you missed the most, which was really interesting,
Speaker 5: was touch with human touch, that that that starts to
Speaker 5: get to you after a while.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I was limited to the to the
Speaker 1: human contact, and I got a lot of people coming
Speaker 1: and going. But you know, you don't have that that tactile,
Speaker 1: that high five, that's shaking the hand I given the hug.
Speaker 4: So wow.
Speaker 1: You know when you are deprived of that and then
Speaker 1: you come back to the surface and everybody wants to
Speaker 1: hug on you to congratulate.
Speaker 4: You, it's like wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Right. So I didn't on a daily.
Speaker 4: Yeah ahead, no, no, no, on on a deal basis.
Speaker 1: On a daily basis, I would get up at like
Speaker 1: four in the morning, because once again, I'm a creature.
Speaker 4: I have it.
Speaker 1: I'll go in there, I'll have a cup of coffee
Speaker 1: and then I'll start my eggs in the microwave. I'll
Speaker 1: do two or three eggs in the microwave. I have
Speaker 1: another cup of coffee, and then I start doing science.
Speaker 1: I did science for about six to eight hours a day.
Speaker 1: It depends on my load. Right, blood, you're in saliva,
Speaker 1: electric cardiograms, electric and cephogrants, blood pressure like we did
Speaker 1: real no kid in science doing ears and factions, basically
Speaker 1: camera and we're trying to look for viruses and things.
Speaker 1: And then I would do about two or three hours
Speaker 1: of outreach to kits. I talked biomedical engineering from underneath
Speaker 1: the water at the University of South Florida. I lectured
Speaker 1: to fifty five hundred school kids, talk to them about preserving, protecting,
Speaker 1: and rejuvenating our marine environment. And then I do like
Speaker 1: two hours worth of news media outreach day.
Speaker 4: So you didn't watch you were really really two hours.
Speaker 1: Everybody's like, oh, you weren't stressed, you just hung out.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I work more down there than I ever
Speaker 1: did on the surface. I mean, I'm fifty five years old.
Speaker 4: We heard how you slack off on the surface, so
Speaker 4: we were all amazed you did so.
Speaker 3: Much under his age. We're able to talk about, but
Speaker 3: the mother is off going it out that fifty five.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you do the mask. Your mom's gonna fausty,
Speaker 4: is what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: All Right, we are devastating our oceans. You know, unchecked
Speaker 3: in how we are killing our oceans is underwater living
Speaker 3: as viable for us if we do not reverse this trend.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, unchecked, we can't do anything. We're you know,
Speaker 1: we're running with scissors. Right. So you said it's seventy
Speaker 1: it's over seventy percent water, and that's true, right, But
Speaker 1: what you don't get is that we produced seventy or
Speaker 1: more percent of the oxygen on this planet is produced
Speaker 1: from the ocean. We keep pooping on the ocean, We're
Speaker 1: going to lose the thing that we need the most.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're already destroying land, right, so let's kind
Speaker 1: of you know, Okay, you want to be on land,
Speaker 1: Go be on land, but try and figure out how
Speaker 1: you can preserve that one thing that gives us the
Speaker 1: line's share of the oxygen on the planet.
Speaker 4: Hey, are you going to what sit the whole time
Speaker 4: you're down there? How are you living? No, we just
Speaker 4: said what do you change? What do you change into?
Speaker 4: How did you live down there? What do you wear?
Speaker 1: It's one hundred percent human environment. That's the problem. It's
Speaker 1: always open to the bottom. So I wore that ring,
Speaker 1: the aura ring, to check my sleep and everything. When
Speaker 1: I was wearing that, there was this little maceration sort
Speaker 1: of thing because my ring was covering it. It was
Speaker 1: one hundred percent all the time. I had that little
Speaker 1: white ring around, your white pruney ring around where the
Speaker 1: ring was so little things like that. Any cut that
Speaker 1: I got didn't heal well at all. It took a
Speaker 1: long time to heal. So there's some obstacles, true obstacles
Speaker 1: to living underwater, and infection is certainly one of them.
Speaker 1: You know, ear infection would be a horrible one. It
Speaker 1: would be a mission hender.
Speaker 4: I'm curious because all the questions what do you wear?
Speaker 4: I just want what kind of question is? Why is
Speaker 4: not in a wetsuit? What he's wearing? What do you
Speaker 4: think he's wearing? It does a skirt? It got him
Speaker 4: to fascinating as far as the ring, it.
Speaker 3: Got there because he's fascinating.
Speaker 4: That doesn't mean you're my god, I don't criticize your
Speaker 4: dumb questions.
Speaker 3: Well, and I go like this, Hm, that's interesting.
Speaker 4: What are you wearing? This is like a phone sex
Speaker 4: ball what.
Speaker 6: Are you wearing?
Speaker 4: Or you asked what they charged for night? Who cares
Speaker 4: what they charged? Amazing discovery? Oh well, what I want
Speaker 4: for these prizes? All wear what I want to weary.
Speaker 5: Next time you go down, I got a cousin. You
Speaker 5: can get your rate and get your bed and breakfast rate.
Speaker 5: My god, So I'm curious you're gregarious guy. Was there
Speaker 5: any when you came up from that environment, we know
Speaker 5: the medical end of it where you dropped all of
Speaker 5: the inflammation stuff. Was there any depression after you came up?
Speaker 5: Was there anything psychologically to change?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah. So what we did while we were down there
Speaker 1: because we wanted to find out what happens when you
Speaker 1: leave a human in an isolated can find extreme environments.
Speaker 1: We did nineteen psychological and psychosocial tests before during several times,
Speaker 1: and then after. And let me tell you something. When
Speaker 1: you live with yourself and you know, like I wasn't
Speaker 1: always alone, I spent a large portion of time alone, right,
Speaker 1: you got one person to talk to, and if you're
Speaker 1: not right with yourself, yeah, so yeah, there was a
Speaker 1: little bit of depression. Realistically, there was a little bit
Speaker 1: of anxiety. You know, there were a couple of areas
Speaker 1: where I was little concerned and confused. But what I
Speaker 1: did was I used that time to look inside and
Speaker 1: I did my meditative breathing. I focused a lot on
Speaker 1: my faith, you know, I focused a lot on my science.
Speaker 1: And look, man, your put your issues aside and do
Speaker 1: your job. That's basically the job that I wanted to
Speaker 1: do for that time.
Speaker 4: But how about coming up. How about after you came up?
Speaker 5: Did anything hit you a week later, two weeks later,
Speaker 5: three weeks later, Will you found yourself in some weird place.
Speaker 4: That you weren't in before that it may have impacted Yep.
Speaker 1: I had a bit of So yeah, there was a
Speaker 1: little bit of depression involved in that. And like I said,
Speaker 1: had I not been focusing so much internally, I may
Speaker 1: not have come through that as well as I could have.
Speaker 1: So what it says is, look, we're going to go
Speaker 1: on this spaceship for two hundred days just to get
Speaker 1: to Mars, and then another six to nine months to
Speaker 1: come back. Wait a minute, Wait a minute, we're going
Speaker 1: to send some resilient people out there. We better at least.
Speaker 3: If you were advising somebody like Musk or anybody that's
Speaker 3: putting together the idea of that kind of an extended
Speaker 3: and isolated trip.
Speaker 4: What would you say are.
Speaker 3: The most important factors to keep you know, people relatively sane?
Speaker 1: Crew selection criteria. This is absolutely the same as doing
Speaker 1: a saturation dive when you go underwater and you can't.
Speaker 1: You are living this close to you know, four or
Speaker 1: five of your closest friends, depending on how many people
Speaker 1: are coming on the mission. It's not like we're going
Speaker 1: to have this huge ship. I mean even elon ship
Speaker 1: thirty five feet across. There's not some freaking big right
Speaker 1: that a whole year. Yeah, you know, you can't like
Speaker 1: go outside to be like, hey, I gotta go, I
Speaker 1: gotta get out of here. I'm gonna look crazy. Right,
Speaker 1: So you have to work together. You have to live together,
Speaker 1: you have to train together. You have to pick open
Speaker 1: every scab and soar on that person until they are
Speaker 1: you know, them like an open book or you know
Speaker 1: they crack, you know, because you want to do that
Speaker 1: before you get on the plane to go to Mars. Right,
Speaker 1: you either want them to be solid or your whole
Speaker 1: team to be solid. It means team training. It means uh,
Speaker 1: you know, things like going to this underwater place and
Speaker 1: spending several months of the underwater place as a team.
Speaker 1: Why train like you fight, fight like you train?
Speaker 5: Right, It's interesting. I saw there's a Spain's Beatrice Flamini
Speaker 5: is the name. She spent five hundred days in the
Speaker 5: cave alone, and I read about her no contact. She
Speaker 5: was being monitored, but no contact, but she had no
Speaker 5: problem doing it and said I could have stayed stayed longer.
Speaker 5: So some people, I guess her ba are built that way. Although,
Speaker 5: like you said, you don't know how.
Speaker 4: She be on a mission.
Speaker 3: How would you do in the game if there was
Speaker 3: another person?
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, yeah, and then how does that person react?
Speaker 1: And then when you poke them? You know, when you
Speaker 1: poke the bear, do they pop or do they just laugh?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: Like at some point if you keep poking me, I
Speaker 1: just laughed at you. But you got to get to
Speaker 1: that point and know what's going to happen because you
Speaker 1: can't leave the spacecraft.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're there, and you can end up losing it up. Well,
Speaker 5: there's another guy, the one Jason I talked about and
Speaker 5: prepping for it to Albert Woodfox who went to prison
Speaker 5: and lived in isolation for forty three years. Yeah, in isolation,
Speaker 5: and he was exonerated, and he said the way he
Speaker 5: did it was he kept chores, he kept positive the
Speaker 5: whole time. The poor guy gets out finally right when
Speaker 5: COVID hits, which is isolation and then dies from COVID.
Speaker 4: Yep, no way, yeah yeah, if.
Speaker 3: You look, if you look, it's one of the great
Speaker 3: miscarriages of justice and and just an existential tragedy.
Speaker 5: But it made he lived. He was the longest person
Speaker 5: to live in isolation that we know, forty forty three,
Speaker 5: forty three years. How about how about going for the
Speaker 5: first asthmatic to do thirty days underwater?
Speaker 4: Jason, Now it's I can I could do it. Let's
Speaker 4: set it up. I could do it. He's like, I, h,
Speaker 4: I think I could. I could do thirty days in that?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't think I could do that? All right? Yeah? Wait, no,
Speaker 4: I'm not asking you a serious question. You don't think why?
Speaker 4: What would what would break me? What would get me?
Speaker 4: The list of wait, wait TOI you get annoyed, something
Speaker 4: would break? You go, what is this broken? It's a hotel.
Speaker 4: Something breaks. You call the office. And that's the other
Speaker 4: reason you can't do it, because it is what you
Speaker 4: just said. It's a hotel.
Speaker 5: Let's move on from this. This was a dumb question.
Speaker 5: So submersibles you went.
Speaker 4: And recommend to dare you?
Speaker 5: People don't know that how deep the Mariana trenches. It's
Speaker 5: like thirty five thousand feet down or something right.
Speaker 1: That thirty five plus?
Speaker 5: Okay, So there's a submersible that's going to all of
Speaker 5: the trenches as the deepest. If they can do that
Speaker 5: and people know what that takes, how did this submersible
Speaker 5: not I mean, I feel horrible to these people perished,
Speaker 5: But how is this submersible even allowed to go down?
Speaker 4: If? If it's if it if they know what it takes.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So I will tell you that I'm a fellow
Speaker 7: of the Explorers Club and some of the people that
Speaker 7: were in that submersible were literally friends.
Speaker 1: And it's kind of a heartbreaking sort of event. And
Speaker 1: I will tell you that a little bit of hubris
Speaker 1: goes a long way when it comes to pressure, because
Speaker 1: pressure is inevitable. I mean it really is. Once you
Speaker 1: get all this pressure pushing on you think about six
Speaker 1: pounds per square inch. And what what had tried to
Speaker 1: happen was a new and innovative design, and anybody who
Speaker 1: innovates through anybody who's out in front, anybody who's trying
Speaker 1: to work magic. Sometimes they get sometimes they get better.
Speaker 5: But you knew these guys, so you've known some of
Speaker 5: these guys. These were explorers. These are guys who had
Speaker 5: credentials and checked and thought obviously that it would work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean and it did in fact work
Speaker 1: several times. But the problem is repeatability of process. So
Speaker 1: you remember I told Jo was an expert in submersibles.
Speaker 1: When I was in the Navy, I helped design and
Speaker 1: build dry combat submersible here at Special Operations Command. The
Speaker 1: reason why that hull is not made out of some
Speaker 1: sort of a laid up carbon fiber over titanium, which
Speaker 1: we looked at. I literally looked at that design and
Speaker 1: it was like, there's no real repeatability of process, and
Speaker 1: there's no real way to test it except destructive testing.
Speaker 1: So every time you test something that you made, like
Speaker 1: when you take steel and you put it under water,
Speaker 1: it's not gonna deform. If it does deform, it's a problem.
Speaker 1: But it's not going to deform. You're gonna compress it.
Speaker 1: Let it go, compress it, let it go, compress it,
Speaker 1: let it go. So that's kind of the thing that
Speaker 1: we went with steel. It's easy enough to work. They
Speaker 1: wanted to do something different, make it lighter, composite, you know,
Speaker 1: composite wrapped around titanium, which.
Speaker 5: The integrity, the integrity kept kept being diminished, and they
Speaker 5: didn't know that they and realize the point that it
Speaker 5: did reach potentially.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I cannot speak intelligently to that, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: but I can tell you what from my experience of
Speaker 1: carbon fiber laid over titanium. Yes, the uh, little bubbles
Speaker 1: in the carbon fiber make weak points and then when
Speaker 1: the pressure increases, all of a sudden, when you keep
Speaker 1: using it, it weakens that joint. Week is it weeks?
Speaker 1: It we sink. Also, when you use two dissimilar metals
Speaker 1: next to one another, you have problems, you have sharing,
Speaker 1: you have extension issues. So it's very very particular. Like
Speaker 1: you know, the Navy has made a manual called the
Speaker 1: man ten pet and it's the one on deep submergence.
Speaker 1: And every single thing that's in that book is written
Speaker 1: in blood because we hurt somebody and we say, okay,
Speaker 1: let's not do that again. Right, And this is in
Speaker 1: the heyday of doing underwater stuff. Right now, we realized
Speaker 1: that underwater stuff is hard, and going back to your
Speaker 1: question at the beginning, Guys, it's hard. It's hard, and
Speaker 1: it's expensive, and that's why, you know, that's why people
Speaker 1: are not really exploring the oceans unfortunately.
Speaker 3: These submarines that we hear about military submarines, I mean,
Speaker 3: I always thought, I don't know, I guess I'm reading
Speaker 3: too many novels that spy submarines would go down and
Speaker 3: those crews would be down for more than one hundred days?
Speaker 4: Am I wrong about that?
Speaker 1: Or ballistic missile submarines tend to go down for ninety
Speaker 1: day periods at a time. They have stayed longer than
Speaker 1: one hundred days, right, But remember that's a submarine. When
Speaker 1: you're in a submarine, you're at the same pressure you
Speaker 1: are at right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But those psychological aspects that we were talking about
Speaker 3: for something like a Mars mission, I mean, do those
Speaker 3: crews need to be vetted in the same way as
Speaker 3: you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely. And you know, there's a very strict command
Speaker 1: structure on board of nuclear submarine. You know, there are
Speaker 1: things that have to be done in a certain order,
Speaker 1: and everybody that works into that is trained into that
Speaker 1: environment and they do. They train like they fight, and
Speaker 1: they fight like they train. So when they go order click,
Speaker 1: lights out. You know, there's no cell phone. There's no
Speaker 1: call in your girlfriend, there's.
Speaker 5: No Yeah, even with the increase in testosterone when you
Speaker 5: go down, there's no calling anybody. You just got to
Speaker 5: deal with that before you go. I got to ask
Speaker 5: you something. This may not be in your area of expertise,
Speaker 5: but it's fascinating to me because we set the institute
Speaker 5: that is studying communication with animals. They have whales and
Speaker 5: they click, they make like a popcorn sound, they make
Speaker 5: the whale singing sound. They got AI sampling and sampling
Speaker 5: and sampling and sampling trying to then decode what those
Speaker 5: things could possibly mean. Once it has a menu of
Speaker 5: all of that stuff with the intent of maybe being
Speaker 5: able to then communicating. Is that is that something that's
Speaker 5: that's that you know about or that's in the near future.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know how near a way it is.
Speaker 1: And here's why. When you are doing that type stuff,
Speaker 1: what you need is the visual response from the animal
Speaker 1: when they go what does that mean? That means left,
Speaker 1: turn right, So they have to have an accompanying video
Speaker 1: with say, hey, everybody turned left, so when they go
Speaker 1: that's a left turn or that's a right term whatever.
Speaker 1: You know, all those clips and rings and all of
Speaker 1: that stuff.
Speaker 3: I think you got a couple of the hand for
Speaker 3: a while because we're starting to get scared now.
Speaker 4: That was way too Thank you for being on doctor.
Speaker 4: What a pleasure you guys.
Speaker 3: When he says I did seven hours a day of science,
Speaker 3: did you catch with science? Was he's He's taking his
Speaker 3: own blood, he's taking his own urine, he's checking his
Speaker 3: own ears.
Speaker 4: He's the science was him. He was science.
Speaker 5: We know that that's no, but that's how we got
Speaker 5: to the Occyden one hundred days.
Speaker 3: I'm going to go down there and take my blood
Speaker 3: and check my my urine and washed it in the
Speaker 3: cup and see if my eyeballs expanded.
Speaker 5: And this is why we always think collectively, say, God,
Speaker 5: you're not the guy going back.
Speaker 3: To do the one hundred days. I don't think I
Speaker 3: have a problem with that. I don't want to. I
Speaker 3: need more activities, do any other things. You're in a tube, Jason, Yeah,
Speaker 3: you're in a tube.
Speaker 4: Trick.
Speaker 5: The amazing thing is that scholesterol went down over seventy points.
Speaker 5: That's pretty shory.
Speaker 4: That is the reason I would like to. By the way,
Speaker 4: I can't buy a lester down.
Speaker 3: If I could do that, rather than change my diet,
Speaker 3: if I just go down.
Speaker 5: So here's what that would sound like to people listening.
Speaker 5: How do you get your cholestero down.
Speaker 4: Number? Yeah, pretty fascinating. So cool guy. I liked him.
Speaker 4: And he didn't have to hold his breath. Well, holding
Speaker 4: breath is a thing. First of all, he went down
Speaker 4: twenty two feet. I don't want you went to by
Speaker 4: the way, twenty two feet. Guy did an amazing thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I know he's also a navy die so
Speaker 3: he's been below twenty two feet. But the hotel was
Speaker 3: twenty two which is not you know, we're not talking,
Speaker 3: my gosh. So this is an area the world's deepest
Speaker 3: free dive.
Speaker 4: You know these people that they they take a.
Speaker 3: Lot of airran and then without benefit of anything down
Speaker 3: they go. They go as far as they can and
Speaker 3: then they slowly make that I don't understand why you
Speaker 3: do that. The guy, I assume it's a guy, it's
Speaker 3: a French name, so u Arnaud Gerald. He broke the
Speaker 3: world's record. You know what, the world hold your breath
Speaker 3: No for deepest, the deepest, deepest free dive twenty four.
Speaker 5: Feet, don't be don't being it. Whether it took me
Speaker 5: back home to he went down? See, I don't know what.
Speaker 4: I don't know. Four hundred feet that's exactly right, four
Speaker 4: one hundred feet.
Speaker 6: Wow?
Speaker 4: Yeah, under what but you said breath holding?
Speaker 3: So the professional the world this is the name, I'm sure, okay,
Speaker 3: but the person's name is Budemir and I think it's
Speaker 3: Zobat all right?
Speaker 4: How long? Did how long? How long?
Speaker 5: I kind of know that it's over. It's stunning. It's
Speaker 5: over twenty minutes.
Speaker 3: It's twenty four minutes and thirty seven second. All right,
Speaker 3: So now I will do something you're ready tell your
Speaker 3: friendly four minutes.
Speaker 5: I was going to say, gather around the radio, gather
Speaker 5: around the podcast, because I've got the secret here. It
Speaker 5: is the salting your sacred to holding your breath. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I will reveal. I've never people don't talk about this,
Speaker 5: but you got a figure. When James Cameron was doing Avatar, Yeah,
Speaker 5: did he do a casting call for actors and said
Speaker 5: I want Daniel d Lewis and said he can only
Speaker 5: go four and a half minutes with all the breather Lewis,
Speaker 5: But that's nothing that because you couldn't hold his breath.
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying, is that how you cast? Because
Speaker 5: you read the Sigourney Weaver held her breath for six
Speaker 5: and a half minutes. I did not read that. Kate
Speaker 5: Winslet did seven minutes and fourteen seconds. Uh so of
Speaker 5: breathel how do you do? Tom Cruise did six minutes?
Speaker 3: And Cruise did but com Gruz was swimming like a
Speaker 3: son of a gun.
Speaker 5: So you want to hear the secret. Everbody you want
Speaker 5: to hear a secret, tell me here it is, and
Speaker 5: they don't. They don't tell you this. So your body
Speaker 5: when you're gasping for breath has CO two detectors. Then
Speaker 5: they're an oxygen detectors. Obviously it's more attuned to the
Speaker 5: CO two in your blood, the carbon nector. So your
Speaker 5: body immediately your brain gets a signal when there's a
Speaker 5: certain amount of CO two in your seeing sure your
Speaker 5: oxygen I think is we're breathing twenty one percent or
Speaker 5: something like that. So what these people do is they're
Speaker 5: breathing one hundred percent oxygen for fifteen or twenty minutes,
Speaker 5: which adjusts there. So so they got all of this
Speaker 5: blood rich in oxygen. Then they hyperventilate to get out
Speaker 5: even even more SEO two.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sure you can.
Speaker 5: If you do that, even untrained, you can probably hold
Speaker 5: your breath for a couple of minutes because your system
Speaker 5: doesn't kick in saying oh my gosh, oh my gosh,
Speaker 5: you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna need to breathe.
Speaker 4: You're gonna need to breathe. It overrides that system.
Speaker 5: So what they do with the Sigourney givers unless not
Speaker 5: unless jim Ca calls me, he tells.
Speaker 4: Me I'm wrong.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I'm sure before she trained they make something they.
Speaker 3: Should need a ham sandwich and then okay, I understand
Speaker 3: pretty sure they get it. Can I mention something else?
Speaker 4: Of course? Who's who? Before we get into it? Could
Speaker 4: you live in that.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about Aquaman for a second, because we talked
Speaker 3: about oh, we're going to communicate. You brought up the
Speaker 3: whole thing we're going to communicate with the whales that
Speaker 3: would seem to be Aquaman's big power. You know, they're
Speaker 3: killing themselves to make an Aquaman movie that works. Can
Speaker 3: I tell them take a break? Because it didn't work.
Speaker 3: It didn't work as a content, it didn't work as
Speaker 3: a comic strip.
Speaker 4: It wasn't Aquaman. What are we talking about? He can
Speaker 4: a special skill. He can hold his breath, which apparently
Speaker 4: not anybody do that.
Speaker 3: He can swim really fast, really and he in the
Speaker 3: in the animated series, he could ride a giant seahorse.
Speaker 4: Have you ever seen a giant seahorse? I've never seen one,
Speaker 4: But what do you do?
Speaker 3: But he could tell empathically communicate with animals to get
Speaker 3: them to do what exactly.
Speaker 4: Does a villain fifteen feet on land? Right? Yeah, all right,
Speaker 4: Aquaman's pointless at that point. Didn't have something else that
Speaker 4: must have had.
Speaker 3: I think he had a try, but I'm confused. I
Speaker 3: don't know if this was Aquaman or Ariel's father. In
Speaker 3: the last in the moment, I had a tried it.
Speaker 3: You know that like could sing, you could make fireworks.
Speaker 3: But I don't know, what is that exciting? How is
Speaker 3: that exciting?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: On the fourth of July, it's very exciting.
Speaker 4: I gotta try.
Speaker 6: I know we're going to get mail.
Speaker 5: But I watched a little Aquaman and it's just it
Speaker 5: just doesn't.
Speaker 4: MoMA is fine. But it's just who he's better on
Speaker 4: dry land. He's better on dry land. Everybody is.
Speaker 3: The only person not better on dry land was Esther Williams.
Speaker 3: After that in Aquaman? Who was who else is in
Speaker 3: there in that movie?
Speaker 4: Amber heard? Oh wow, okay, I'm no comment.
Speaker 3: And I can't remember. And Patrick Wilson plays the villain?
Speaker 3: And is it how much of the movie takes place underwater? Okay,
Speaker 3: all right if you like. By the way, by the way,
Speaker 3: they they was great underwater. The hair, you know, that's
Speaker 3: I love that. But they talking was on There was
Speaker 3: no they talked like you and I are talking now.
Speaker 4: I don't know. And when he communicated, did he do
Speaker 4: it like our guy? When he.
Speaker 3: No, he did not? Just it's telete. Yeah, you think.
Speaker 5: The Jason was on the right Jason Mom sitting there born,
Speaker 5: I could go for a tuna sandwich right now and
Speaker 5: every right into his mouth.
Speaker 3: Could you do the isolation? Forget the environment? Could you do?
Speaker 4: Because you talked about this unbelievable?
Speaker 5: I could, and then I couldn't. I think I could
Speaker 5: because of COVID preppticed a little bit. I could see
Speaker 5: if you weren't alone, But I wasn't alone.
Speaker 4: But I wish, I wish. I'm kidding, it's it's a
Speaker 4: tough one.
Speaker 5: Everything I've read about isolation is really tough that you start.
Speaker 3: Really losing your I don't think I could do it.
Speaker 3: I do not like being Look, I have never as
Speaker 3: an adult. I mean, I've done like you know, when
Speaker 3: I've been on the road and stuff. I'm not with Dana,
Speaker 3: but I've never lived alone. I went from college roommate,
Speaker 3: college friends. I had a roommate when I came out
Speaker 3: of college for alone, and then I met Dana, and
Speaker 3: Dana and I have been together ever since.
Speaker 4: I have never lived there.
Speaker 5: And I like living alone. I like being alone. I'll
Speaker 5: get stuff done alone for a period of time.
Speaker 3: I'm okay for when I have to do like a stay.
Speaker 3: If I go out of town to do a play
Speaker 3: or do something, I'm good for a week, two or three,
Speaker 3: and after that I go.
Speaker 5: I don't like but your work is social. You're usually
Speaker 5: in stuff with other people.
Speaker 3: So that's that's really when I come home to the
Speaker 3: empty hotel room or then, and I tell you the worst,
Speaker 3: I cannot I can't go to bed. So Dana and
Speaker 3: I we get into bed, we turn off the lights.
Speaker 3: We go to sleep, the actor turning off the lights
Speaker 3: and going, I'm gonna be unconscious now for a couple
Speaker 3: of us.
Speaker 4: I can't do it.
Speaker 3: I have to have the TV on and I have
Speaker 3: to fall asleep to the TV, which is not a
Speaker 3: sound sleep.
Speaker 5: It's it's dude, I got to tell you this, and
Speaker 5: my wife will listening to this episode, but I got
Speaker 5: to tell you. When I'm alone, She's like, I miss her.
Speaker 5: On the other hand, I'm eating in bed, I'm watching
Speaker 5: what I want to watch it. I don't have to.
Speaker 5: I can't do And then she gets something. She goes
Speaker 5: is staying in the bed? Did you have food in
Speaker 5: the bed? I go, why would I eat food in
Speaker 5: the bed? Why would you say?
Speaker 4: I what do you got?
Speaker 8: Well, you really gave me a lot right there at
Speaker 8: the end, there a yeah Aquaman, which was a shoot
Speaker 8: from the sub Mariner.
Speaker 3: I believe Naymore was the prince of the It was
Speaker 3: sub Mariner, and then it was.
Speaker 9: Well, I don't think the people at DC really care.
Speaker 9: It grows over over a billion dollars, okay, all right,
Speaker 9: one zero billion.
Speaker 6: Worldwide is the highest grossing d C EU whatever.
Speaker 9: That is film highest grossing film based on a DC
Speaker 9: Comics character in the fifth highest grossing film of two
Speaker 9: thousand and eight.
Speaker 6: They're about to release the sequel. They were just what.
Speaker 4: I'm looking on Rotten Tomatoes right now. You keep talking,
Speaker 4: I'm going to check rout to the UH and Peter,
Speaker 4: how are you pronouncing the star's name? I just want to.
Speaker 9: Okay, I just thought you were putting in a William
Speaker 9: William I said was in.
Speaker 6: I thought you said something different.
Speaker 4: That's all. A Nicole kidman was in that. Oafette was
Speaker 4: in it.
Speaker 9: A lot of people were a very talented and professional
Speaker 9: people were in there.
Speaker 6: So and I there is one other correction. The released
Speaker 6: individual Albert A.
Speaker 9: Wood Fox, who was the prisoner in isolation for forty
Speaker 9: three years that was wrongly convicted and then tragically died.
Speaker 9: He is not the longest to be in solitary confinement.
Speaker 6: That is Robert.
Speaker 9: Moldslee, who is a British Man who was in forty
Speaker 9: five years of isolation, which means twenty three out of
Speaker 9: twenty four hours a day he was in his cell.
Speaker 9: It's interesting though, he's actually called Hannibal the Cannibal.
Speaker 4: Based on the silence of the Lamb's.
Speaker 9: Character for a couple of reasons, one of which is
Speaker 9: his isolation cell has that glass oh right, like you
Speaker 9: will remember from that absolutely yeah yeah yeah, like you
Speaker 9: like when Clarice's would have that yeah, interplay with him.
Speaker 1: And he it's very clear he he did do what
Speaker 1: they said he did.
Speaker 9: So he's not a very nice guy, but still.
Speaker 4: Like your stuff. It's really terribul Thank you, sir.
Speaker 3: Wow, by the way, you Appleman sixty six on rutten
Speaker 3: to man doesn't matter it made a billion.
Speaker 4: I didn't say it.
Speaker 6: Was well well reviewed. It wasn't well reviewed.
Speaker 4: I didn't care for it myself.
Speaker 3: When you and I make when Peter and I make things,
Speaker 3: we don't get good reviews, but we don't make a
Speaker 3: billion dollars either.
Speaker 4: That you found funny, that you found funny? Really no, really,
Speaker 4: and we're.
Speaker 3: You I so underwood. We'll see you next time. Yeah,
Speaker 3: announce it.
Speaker 4: I will take us.
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