WEBVTT - Living Underwater, Breath Holding Tricks + Space Llamas!

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<v Speaker 1>Really Now, Really, Really.

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<v Speaker 2>Now Really, Hello and welcome to this episode of Really

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<v Speaker 2>You Know Really, with Jason Alexander and Peter Tilden, both

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<v Speaker 2>of whom would love you to subscribe to Really Know Really,

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<v Speaker 2>but are too proud to beg you for it. In

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<v Speaker 2>today's episode, you'll meet the scientist who set the world

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<v Speaker 2>record for the longest time spent living underwater, Plus how

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<v Speaker 2>the Titans submersible actually met its tragic fate, a debate

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<v Speaker 2>on the merits of Aquaman's superpowers, and the secret to

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<v Speaker 2>holding your breath for over six minutes. And now here

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<v Speaker 2>are two guys whose lives seem to be a desperate

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<v Speaker 2>attempt to keep afloat your hosts, Jason Alexander and Peter Tilden.

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<v Speaker 3>So listen before we Uh, it's a big day, big

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<v Speaker 3>day for us.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a big day. Another episode. It's a Big Day's special.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll give you that's an indication of what my average

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<v Speaker 4>day is like. I got it.

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<v Speaker 3>But you want a little up date on one of

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<v Speaker 3>our previous Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so we did it. We did.

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<v Speaker 3>We've interviewed a gentleman who was on the team, the

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<v Speaker 3>NASA team that is evaluating all this UFOs that evaluation

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<v Speaker 3>came out and they said mostly nothing yet. However, the

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<v Speaker 3>way I just read and this kind of made big news.

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<v Speaker 3>Over the last few days in Mexico, they released photographs

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<v Speaker 3>of two bodies that they have said were not of

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<v Speaker 3>human origin, not their extra bodies. Made a lot of news,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of speculation, right, and then some scientists went

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<v Speaker 3>in and did X rays. It seems that the legs

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<v Speaker 3>of these aliens are a human arm bone and a

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<v Speaker 3>human leg right. And the skull, which was really the giveaway,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of.

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<v Speaker 4>Looked like e T.

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<v Speaker 3>They've determined sort of shaved down skull of a lama.

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<v Speaker 3>So a space yeah, yeah, I mean that doesn't prove

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<v Speaker 3>anything space line absolutely, you've never heard of spaceline this before.

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<v Speaker 1>I have.

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<v Speaker 4>Now there you go. Yeah, And apparently they walked on

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<v Speaker 4>their hands.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely and crashed. You know what's amazing about exterrestials. They

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<v Speaker 5>always get so close and then they go, oh, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>we're going.

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<v Speaker 4>To hit and crash.

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<v Speaker 3>So normally we always talk about space exploration, but the

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<v Speaker 3>truth is right here on Earth we have largely unexplored.

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<v Speaker 3>The majority of our planet is our oceans.

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<v Speaker 5>Over seventy percent of our planet is ocean, and they

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<v Speaker 5>know more about space than what do you know about

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<v Speaker 5>about the ocean, which is amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>It is amazing, which and we don't know much about space.

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<v Speaker 3>So our really no really of the day is a

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<v Speaker 3>gentleman has recently surfaced after voluntarily living underwater for one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred days.

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<v Speaker 4>Really really no really, and he's joining us now. His

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<v Speaker 4>scientist he's a doctor, he is.

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<v Speaker 3>His name is doctor Joseph detri He is a retired

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<v Speaker 3>naval officer. He has broken the record for spending time

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<v Speaker 3>I'm underwater, having spent more than three months living inside

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<v Speaker 3>a one hundred square foot pod in the depths of

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<v Speaker 3>the Atlantic Ocean to research the effects of pressurized environments

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<v Speaker 3>on the human body. He was twenty two feet below

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<v Speaker 3>the waters in Key Largo, Florida. He's a biomedical engineer

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<v Speaker 3>teaches at the University of South Florida. He has a

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<v Speaker 3>nickname Doctor deep Sea, which well, I'm not even going

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<v Speaker 3>to go into that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yep.

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<v Speaker 3>And he was at the bottom of the Emerald Lagoon

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<v Speaker 3>in the Jewels under Sea launch. So far, this sounds

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<v Speaker 3>like a Disney attraction to me. I think he spent

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<v Speaker 3>one day, he did not, and then it's an underwater

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<v Speaker 3>hotel here in the United States. He's broken the Guinness

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<v Speaker 3>Book of World Records, which previously was seventy four days,

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<v Speaker 3>and he is to come up under one hundred days.

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<v Speaker 3>We have doctor, doctor Joseph de Truri.

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<v Speaker 4>How are you see you?

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<v Speaker 1>It's a small world, after all, we're.

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<v Speaker 5>First of all, you couldn't have stayed one hundred and

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<v Speaker 5>five just to pad the record.

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<v Speaker 3>One hundred is the path of the record. One hundred

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<v Speaker 3>days and went, you know what, I'm done, I'm through.

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<v Speaker 4>I had enough.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's interesting you did the space tie in

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<v Speaker 1>thing right from the very beginning, because you're right, we do.

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<v Speaker 1>We know more about space than we know about our

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<v Speaker 1>own ocean. Yeah, as of twenty twelve, three people had

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<v Speaker 1>been to the bottom of the Marianna's Trench. That numbers

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<v Speaker 1>climbed just a little bit in recent time, but not

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<v Speaker 1>much so. When people ask me why did you stay

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred days, I said, well, honestly, it's because I

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<v Speaker 1>can't afford to state two.

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<v Speaker 4>Hundred the reason you and as they were charging for

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<v Speaker 4>the row.

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<v Speaker 1>Well they were charging, yes, definitely, it was funded in

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<v Speaker 1>part by me personally. But the two hundred day thing

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<v Speaker 1>that's how long it's going to take us to get

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<v Speaker 1>to Mars going.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's stay with that. I'm shocked at the hotel

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<v Speaker 3>didn't go. Hey, this is like a big deal for us.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, other people booked that. The Kummelsons are checking it

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<v Speaker 5>on Thursday's got to be out of there. Come on

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<v Speaker 5>the Wednesday checking noon check in. Can you say.

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<v Speaker 1>There's cost to running? You know, the driven and people

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<v Speaker 1>are the marching army, right, like you got to pay

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<v Speaker 1>a sound guy. That sound guy gets paid every time

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<v Speaker 1>you go on. Maybe he doesn't get paid when you're

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<v Speaker 1>not on.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So speaking of the money though, let me let me

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<v Speaker 5>let me tie this in because this is and you

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<v Speaker 5>would know this. So in the sixty seventies, Jacquesteau was

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<v Speaker 5>really about let's build underwater cities, let's build pods, and

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<v Speaker 5>sea lamb happened and all of that, and because of money,

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<v Speaker 5>all of a sudden it lost people, lost interest and

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<v Speaker 5>it went away for years. Now, all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 5>I guess James Cameron, because of the Titanic and the

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<v Speaker 5>other pod that's going down to do the Mariana trensch

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<v Speaker 5>had has done the other four ocean depths to yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>all of yeah, all of a sudden, there's interest again

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<v Speaker 5>and again you did it again.

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<v Speaker 4>So is this starting?

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<v Speaker 5>And I know that there's uh in Tokyo they're trying

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<v Speaker 5>to build an underwater city, the Spiral City, with hotels

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<v Speaker 5>and stuff like.

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<v Speaker 4>That, which looks crazy. Is this really?

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<v Speaker 1>So?

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<v Speaker 4>Is this?

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<v Speaker 5>Is this interest ramped up again all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 5>that we're looking now saying this planet, we're screwed.

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<v Speaker 4>We should really look at what's going on underwater.

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<v Speaker 1>From your lips to God's ears. I mean, look, we

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<v Speaker 1>get many biomedical things that come out of the ocean, sponges,

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<v Speaker 1>We find new species of sponge. They're perfectly suited for

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<v Speaker 1>curing what ails us. They're powerful anti virals, they're powerful medicines.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's an interesting thing. We went to the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>of the Marianas Trench in twenty twelve. Well, when I say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't me, it was James Cameron. When I retired

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<v Speaker 1>from the Navy, I got a call from James Cameron saying,

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<v Speaker 1>or his people saying, hey, Jim wants you to come

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<v Speaker 1>out to his house, look at his submersible and evaluate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Want you to write up what's going on and what

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<v Speaker 1>he's done, and I'm like, I was a submersible expert.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, sure, I'll go Jim Cameron for whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>My daughter's like, tell him, I love Titanic. I get

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<v Speaker 1>out there and it turns out that when he went

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<v Speaker 1>to the bottom of the Marianas Trench, he found a

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<v Speaker 1>sea lice down there and he captured it. Sea lice

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<v Speaker 1>in the state of Florida. A teeny tighty Nitanoid little

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<v Speaker 1>they'll bite you, they'll leave the mark the bottom of

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<v Speaker 1>the Mario's Trench. They're like eleven inches big. He grappled it,

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<v Speaker 1>brought it to the surface. We pulled the DNA sample off.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a partial cure for Alzheimer's.

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<v Speaker 5>Really so so to that point in researching this, the

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<v Speaker 5>thing that drove me crazy, the oh wow of your trip.

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<v Speaker 5>You're only twenty two feet down yep, for one hundred days.

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<v Speaker 5>Every illness that we talk about in the last five

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<v Speaker 5>years has to do with inflammation. Everything's inflamation, inflamation, inflamation.

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<v Speaker 5>So I look at your trip and I see your

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<v Speaker 5>oxidative stress went down, your cholesterol dropped by seventy points,

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<v Speaker 5>your collagen went up, and you didn't exercise at all.

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<v Speaker 4>This is all life the waight?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you was your Did you did your diet change

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<v Speaker 3>while you were doing there?

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<v Speaker 1>Not at all?

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<v Speaker 3>And the cholesterol dropped seventy points?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, as ever the exact number.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, that's a wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Every single inflammatory marker in my body cut in half.

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<v Speaker 4>So what happened when you came up?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh? It actually dropped off a little bit. Both of

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<v Speaker 1>those dropped off a little bit, so they're not quite

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<v Speaker 1>as good, but they're still really good.

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<v Speaker 4>Was there any negative effect on your body? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I'm six foot one inch taller I was

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<v Speaker 1>when I started. I'm now six foot and a quarter inch.

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<v Speaker 1>I lost three quarters of an inch.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I can't go. I can't go. I can't go.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm I'm wow.

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<v Speaker 1>You remember it's a small world after all.

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<v Speaker 5>Other So did you and I know someding did you

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<v Speaker 5>sleep well and dream when you were down there?

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<v Speaker 4>So?

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<v Speaker 1>Interestingly enough, sleep plates fifty to seventy millions of America.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm more horrible for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I sleep poorly, about thirty percent deep in Rent when

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<v Speaker 1>I was underwater, and when every single person was underwater,

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<v Speaker 1>we did sleep studies. They slept sixty to sixty five

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<v Speaker 1>percent in deep and rent.

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<v Speaker 4>What what's the pressure we're doing up here?

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<v Speaker 6>How much pressure do we crawl up?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm ready to go. Now, give me what evolutionary upside

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<v Speaker 4>there us being up?

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<v Speaker 5>How much pressure were you at in a non pressurized

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<v Speaker 5>capsule twenty two feet under?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I actually wasn't a pressure ized capsule. So that

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<v Speaker 1>capsule had to be pressurized because the bottom of it

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<v Speaker 1>was open. So we're keeping the work out by keeping

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<v Speaker 1>the pressure. That's okay, No, it's a great thing. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's one point seven times where you are one point

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<v Speaker 1>seven to one point eight times where you are right now.

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<v Speaker 4>That is absolutely amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>But and it was fun.

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<v Speaker 4>Well that's what I was gonna But it was fun.

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<v Speaker 6>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to I don't want to undermine the

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<v Speaker 3>accomplishment of living in that kind of environment for one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred days. But you did have It wasn't quite like

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<v Speaker 3>being isolated. People came in. I saw photos of you

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<v Speaker 3>with some some students. I think you'd in your mother,

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<v Speaker 3>my mother.

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<v Speaker 4>She looked sixty but in years. By the way, I

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to suit because I gave this mother's age.

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<v Speaker 1>My mother, my mother, my mother goes down to Florida

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<v Speaker 1>takes diving lessons, comes down to business.

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<v Speaker 4>Like a singer.

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<v Speaker 5>All we could think of is this, I'm finally in

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<v Speaker 5>the capsule. I can get a break for my mother

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<v Speaker 5>for a little bit. But you're knocking in the window.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello, you don't call just because you're underwater, you can't

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<v Speaker 4>answer it. Text, mister big shot, is.

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<v Speaker 1>The last time you cleaned this place?

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I don't understand.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, your mother must be extraordinary because I have I

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<v Speaker 3>have a doctor who says, go do try it, have

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<v Speaker 3>it be it if it's not going to kill. I

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<v Speaker 3>once said to him, I'm going to take a scuba diving.

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<v Speaker 4>Now I have my old asthma.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, I'm going to take a scuba diving unlesson

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<v Speaker 3>they say before I can sign the paper, my doctor

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<v Speaker 3>has to sign off on it. So you'll sign off it, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And you went, no.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I don't want your breathing compressed there. That is

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<v Speaker 4>no okay.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, your mother over forty just so I couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>go down, I couldn't come see you in the hotel.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that what I'm hearing?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's probably the truth. Because regulasma, if it's controlled

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<v Speaker 1>with an inhaler. Maybe be well, that's me.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm controlled with an inhaler.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of these fine line things.

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<v Speaker 4>I've snoopered.

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<v Speaker 3>I've done snooper Yeah, but what you're saying to me

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<v Speaker 3>is the whole world of our underwater future is off

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<v Speaker 3>limits to me because I can't unlike your mother who

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<v Speaker 3>was of indiscriminate age, I can't make it.

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<v Speaker 4>Down to the hotel right now. I'm going, Yeah, I'm Peter,

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<v Speaker 4>have fun. I'll stay up here. I'll be up here,

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<v Speaker 4>and in.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell, in an abundance of caution, we would favor your

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<v Speaker 1>health and we'd say, hey, you'd have to get yourself

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<v Speaker 1>evaluated by a pulmonologist.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I understand that I can't do compressed there through

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<v Speaker 3>a regulator in my mouth. But if I was in

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<v Speaker 3>a submersible, is that environment okay for me?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure that environment is okay because you're in the same

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<v Speaker 1>environment that you and I are sitting in right now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't get the health benefits, you don't get the

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<v Speaker 1>additional breathing of oxygen, you don't get the cords all drop,

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<v Speaker 1>and the one thing you failed to mention. Wait, so

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<v Speaker 1>with the quarter's all drop, and I mean I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>from the eighties to the single digits. My court's will drop.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a corresponding increase or spike in testosterone.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you know how do I hell? I don't need

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<v Speaker 3>to breathe down there. It's fine, I gotta go. All

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<v Speaker 3>the other benefits will outweigh of the breathing. Since you're

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<v Speaker 3>not going, I'm going, You're not going. The minute we finishes,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going down. I'm booking. I'm ticket to Florida. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>booking that room, and I'm going. It's twenty two feet

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<v Speaker 3>What the hell's going to happen? Twenty two feet? This

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<v Speaker 3>guy wasn't in the trench. It's not like he was

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<v Speaker 3>in the trench.

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<v Speaker 4>Twenty two feet down. Let me tell you something. But

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<v Speaker 4>the guy who plays.

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<v Speaker 3>Cards at the bottom of his bool, I've seen it

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<v Speaker 3>on YouTube. This guy's not such a big deal. I

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<v Speaker 3>could do what he did.

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<v Speaker 5>Let me just tell you something, doctor, I've seen Jason

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<v Speaker 5>try and go in the ocean. Take some twenty minutes

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<v Speaker 5>to acclimate. He splashes the long text me.

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<v Speaker 3>It texts me an hour to get the website one.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's neither here nor that.

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<v Speaker 5>So what's what's the people listening? What does the place

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<v Speaker 5>look like? You said has got an open bottom? What

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<v Speaker 5>is it like living? Are you in a whatsuit the

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<v Speaker 5>whole time? Explain that your day in that environment?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh great, it's it's basically two tubes and one tube

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<v Speaker 1>is for sleeping, and it's basically probably like eighteen feet

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<v Speaker 1>long worth of usable space, and then it's eight feet

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<v Speaker 1>in diameter, but it's a two so you really can't

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<v Speaker 1>use most of it. So you have this teeny little

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<v Speaker 1>walkway and that's it. Basically you have about fifty square

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<v Speaker 1>feet on one side and about fifty square feet on

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<v Speaker 1>the other side, and that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>That would go for about five thousand a month in

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<v Speaker 3>New York City.

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<v Speaker 5>In New York City, and that would be And now,

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<v Speaker 5>were you claustrophobic or because you're looking out, I guess

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<v Speaker 5>there's windows and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, ho is the Navy saturation dive. I've been on submarines,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been in torpedo tube that really get it?

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<v Speaker 4>Forget it? Oh no, oh no, oh no, that's like

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<v Speaker 4>Baby Amri all day long.

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<v Speaker 1>Underwater in a teedy little bubble.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, dude, that's yours.

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<v Speaker 3>That would not that doesn't bother me, that that would

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<v Speaker 3>not bother me.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't even I'm hyperventilating thinking about yeah, no, that

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<v Speaker 5>that I don't have a thing. So I also know

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<v Speaker 5>that during your mission one hundred days and there were

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<v Speaker 5>people coming and now, but that said, the thing that

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<v Speaker 5>you said you missed the most, which was really interesting,

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<v Speaker 5>was touch with human touch, that that that starts to

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<v Speaker 5>get to you after a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I was limited to the to the

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<v Speaker 1>human contact, and I got a lot of people coming

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<v Speaker 1>and going. But you know, you don't have that that tactile,

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<v Speaker 1>that high five, that's shaking the hand I given the hug.

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<v Speaker 4>So wow.

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<v Speaker 1>You know when you are deprived of that and then

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<v Speaker 1>you come back to the surface and everybody wants to

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<v Speaker 1>hug on you to congratulate.

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<v Speaker 4>You, it's like wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Right. So I didn't on a daily.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah ahead, no, no, no, on on a deal basis.

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<v Speaker 1>On a daily basis, I would get up at like

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<v Speaker 1>four in the morning, because once again, I'm a creature.

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<v Speaker 4>I have it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go in there, I'll have a cup of coffee

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<v Speaker 1>and then I'll start my eggs in the microwave. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>do two or three eggs in the microwave. I have

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<v Speaker 1>another cup of coffee, and then I start doing science.

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<v Speaker 1>I did science for about six to eight hours a day.

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<v Speaker 1>It depends on my load. Right, blood, you're in saliva,

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<v Speaker 1>electric cardiograms, electric and cephogrants, blood pressure like we did

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<v Speaker 1>real no kid in science doing ears and factions, basically

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<v Speaker 1>camera and we're trying to look for viruses and things.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I would do about two or three hours

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<v Speaker 1>of outreach to kits. I talked biomedical engineering from underneath

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<v Speaker 1>the water at the University of South Florida. I lectured

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<v Speaker 1>to fifty five hundred school kids, talk to them about preserving, protecting,

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<v Speaker 1>and rejuvenating our marine environment. And then I do like

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<v Speaker 1>two hours worth of news media outreach day.

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<v Speaker 4>So you didn't watch you were really really two hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's like, oh, you weren't stressed, you just hung out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I work more down there than I ever

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<v Speaker 1>did on the surface. I mean, I'm fifty five years old.

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<v Speaker 4>We heard how you slack off on the surface, so

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<v Speaker 4>we were all amazed you did so.

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<v Speaker 3>Much under his age. We're able to talk about, but

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<v Speaker 3>the mother is off going it out that fifty five.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so you do the mask. Your mom's gonna fausty,

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<v Speaker 4>is what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>All Right, we are devastating our oceans. You know, unchecked

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<v Speaker 3>in how we are killing our oceans is underwater living

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<v Speaker 3>as viable for us if we do not reverse this trend.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, no, unchecked, we can't do anything. We're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're running with scissors. Right. So you said it's seventy

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<v Speaker 1>it's over seventy percent water, and that's true, right, But

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<v Speaker 1>what you don't get is that we produced seventy or

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<v Speaker 1>more percent of the oxygen on this planet is produced

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<v Speaker 1>from the ocean. We keep pooping on the ocean, We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to lose the thing that we need the most.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're already destroying land, right, so let's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, Okay, you want to be on land,

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<v Speaker 1>Go be on land, but try and figure out how

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<v Speaker 1>you can preserve that one thing that gives us the

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<v Speaker 1>line's share of the oxygen on the planet.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, are you going to what sit the whole time

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<v Speaker 4>you're down there? How are you living? No, we just

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<v Speaker 4>said what do you change? What do you change into?

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<v Speaker 4>How did you live down there? What do you wear?

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<v Speaker 1>It's one hundred percent human environment. That's the problem. It's

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<v Speaker 1>always open to the bottom. So I wore that ring,

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<v Speaker 1>the aura ring, to check my sleep and everything. When

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<v Speaker 1>I was wearing that, there was this little maceration sort

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<v Speaker 1>of thing because my ring was covering it. It was

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent all the time. I had that little

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<v Speaker 1>white ring around, your white pruney ring around where the

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<v Speaker 1>ring was so little things like that. Any cut that

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<v Speaker 1>I got didn't heal well at all. It took a

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<v Speaker 1>long time to heal. So there's some obstacles, true obstacles

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<v Speaker 1>to living underwater, and infection is certainly one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, ear infection would be a horrible one. It

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<v Speaker 1>would be a mission hender.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm curious because all the questions what do you wear?

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<v Speaker 4>I just want what kind of question is? Why is

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<v Speaker 4>not in a wetsuit? What he's wearing? What do you

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<v Speaker 4>think he's wearing? It does a skirt? It got him

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<v Speaker 4>to fascinating as far as the ring, it.

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<v Speaker 3>Got there because he's fascinating.

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<v Speaker 4>That doesn't mean you're my god, I don't criticize your

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<v Speaker 4>dumb questions.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and I go like this, Hm, that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>What are you wearing? This is like a phone sex

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<v Speaker 4>ball what.

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<v Speaker 6>Are you wearing?

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<v Speaker 4>Or you asked what they charged for night? Who cares

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<v Speaker 4>what they charged? Amazing discovery? Oh well, what I want

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<v Speaker 4>for these prizes? All wear what I want to weary.

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<v Speaker 5>Next time you go down, I got a cousin. You

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<v Speaker 5>can get your rate and get your bed and breakfast rate.

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<v Speaker 5>My god, So I'm curious you're gregarious guy. Was there

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<v Speaker 5>any when you came up from that environment, we know

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<v Speaker 5>the medical end of it where you dropped all of

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<v Speaker 5>the inflammation stuff. Was there any depression after you came up?

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<v Speaker 5>Was there anything psychologically to change?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So what we did while we were down there

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<v Speaker 1>because we wanted to find out what happens when you

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<v Speaker 1>leave a human in an isolated can find extreme environments.

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<v Speaker 1>We did nineteen psychological and psychosocial tests before during several times,

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<v Speaker 1>and then after. And let me tell you something. When

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<v Speaker 1>you live with yourself and you know, like I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>always alone, I spent a large portion of time alone, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you got one person to talk to, and if you're

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<v Speaker 1>not right with yourself, yeah, so yeah, there was a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of depression. Realistically, there was a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of anxiety. You know, there were a couple of areas

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<v Speaker 1>where I was little concerned and confused. But what I

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<v Speaker 1>did was I used that time to look inside and

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<v Speaker 1>I did my meditative breathing. I focused a lot on

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<v Speaker 1>my faith, you know, I focused a lot on my science.

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<v Speaker 1>And look, man, your put your issues aside and do

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<v Speaker 1>your job. That's basically the job that I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>do for that time.

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<v Speaker 4>But how about coming up. How about after you came up?

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<v Speaker 5>Did anything hit you a week later, two weeks later,

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<v Speaker 5>three weeks later, Will you found yourself in some weird place.

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<v Speaker 4>That you weren't in before that it may have impacted Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a bit of So yeah, there was a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of depression involved in that. And like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>had I not been focusing so much internally, I may

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<v Speaker 1>not have come through that as well as I could have.

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<v Speaker 1>So what it says is, look, we're going to go

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<v Speaker 1>on this spaceship for two hundred days just to get

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<v Speaker 1>to Mars, and then another six to nine months to

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<v Speaker 1>come back. Wait a minute, Wait a minute, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to send some resilient people out there. We better at least.

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<v Speaker 3>If you were advising somebody like Musk or anybody that's

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<v Speaker 3>putting together the idea of that kind of an extended

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<v Speaker 3>and isolated trip.

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<v Speaker 4>What would you say are.

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<v Speaker 3>The most important factors to keep you know, people relatively sane?

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<v Speaker 1>Crew selection criteria. This is absolutely the same as doing

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<v Speaker 1>a saturation dive when you go underwater and you can't.

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<v Speaker 1>You are living this close to you know, four or

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<v Speaker 1>five of your closest friends, depending on how many people

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<v Speaker 1>are coming on the mission. It's not like we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to have this huge ship. I mean even elon ship

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five feet across. There's not some freaking big right

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<v Speaker 1>that a whole year. Yeah, you know, you can't like

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<v Speaker 1>go outside to be like, hey, I gotta go, I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta get out of here. I'm gonna look crazy. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So you have to work together. You have to live together,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to train together. You have to pick open

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<v Speaker 1>every scab and soar on that person until they are

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<v Speaker 1>you know, them like an open book or you know

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<v Speaker 1>they crack, you know, because you want to do that

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<v Speaker 1>before you get on the plane to go to Mars. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>you either want them to be solid or your whole

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<v Speaker 1>team to be solid. It means team training. It means uh,

0:22:11.320 --> 0:22:14.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, things like going to this underwater place and

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<v Speaker 1>spending several months of the underwater place as a team.

0:22:18.359 --> 0:22:20.560
<v Speaker 1>Why train like you fight, fight like you train?

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<v Speaker 5>Right, It's interesting. I saw there's a Spain's Beatrice Flamini

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<v Speaker 5>is the name. She spent five hundred days in the

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<v Speaker 5>cave alone, and I read about her no contact. She

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<v Speaker 5>was being monitored, but no contact, but she had no

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<v Speaker 5>problem doing it and said I could have stayed stayed longer.

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<v Speaker 5>So some people, I guess her ba are built that way. Although,

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<v Speaker 5>like you said, you don't know how.

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<v Speaker 4>She be on a mission.

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<v Speaker 3>How would you do in the game if there was

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<v Speaker 3>another person?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, yeah, and then how does that person react?

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<v Speaker 1>And then when you poke them? You know, when you

0:22:52.760 --> 0:22:55.480
<v Speaker 1>poke the bear, do they pop or do they just laugh?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Like at some point if you keep poking me, I

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<v Speaker 1>just laughed at you. But you got to get to

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<v Speaker 1>that point and know what's going to happen because you

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<v Speaker 1>can't leave the spacecraft.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you're there, and you can end up losing it up. Well,

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<v Speaker 5>there's another guy, the one Jason I talked about and

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<v Speaker 5>prepping for it to Albert Woodfox who went to prison

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<v Speaker 5>and lived in isolation for forty three years. Yeah, in isolation,

0:23:19.240 --> 0:23:22.080
<v Speaker 5>and he was exonerated, and he said the way he

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<v Speaker 5>did it was he kept chores, he kept positive the

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<v Speaker 5>whole time. The poor guy gets out finally right when

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<v Speaker 5>COVID hits, which is isolation and then dies from COVID.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, no way, yeah yeah, if.

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<v Speaker 3>You look, if you look, it's one of the great

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<v Speaker 3>miscarriages of justice and and just an existential tragedy.

0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:43.080
<v Speaker 5>But it made he lived. He was the longest person

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<v Speaker 5>to live in isolation that we know, forty forty three,

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<v Speaker 5>forty three years. How about how about going for the

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<v Speaker 5>first asthmatic to do thirty days underwater?

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<v Speaker 4>Jason, Now it's I can I could do it. Let's

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<v Speaker 4>set it up. I could do it. He's like, I, h,

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<v Speaker 4>I think I could. I could do thirty days in that?

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<v Speaker 4>All right?

0:24:07.240 --> 0:24:07.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you don't think I could do that? All right? Yeah? Wait, no,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not asking you a serious question. You don't think why?

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<v Speaker 4>What would what would break me? What would get me?

0:24:16.200 --> 0:24:19.840
<v Speaker 4>The list of wait, wait TOI you get annoyed, something

0:24:19.880 --> 0:24:23.120
<v Speaker 4>would break? You go, what is this broken? It's a hotel.

0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:25.920
<v Speaker 4>Something breaks. You call the office. And that's the other

0:24:25.960 --> 0:24:27.720
<v Speaker 4>reason you can't do it, because it is what you

0:24:27.840 --> 0:24:29.960
<v Speaker 4>just said. It's a hotel.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's move on from this. This was a dumb question.

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<v Speaker 5>So submersibles you went.

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<v Speaker 4>And recommend to dare you?

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<v Speaker 5>People don't know that how deep the Mariana trenches. It's

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<v Speaker 5>like thirty five thousand feet down or something right.

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<v Speaker 1>That thirty five plus?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, So there's a submersible that's going to all of

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<v Speaker 5>the trenches as the deepest. If they can do that

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<v Speaker 5>and people know what that takes, how did this submersible

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<v Speaker 5>not I mean, I feel horrible to these people perished,

0:24:54.040 --> 0:24:58.399
<v Speaker 5>But how is this submersible even allowed to go down?

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<v Speaker 4>If? If it's if it if they know what it takes.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, So I will tell you that I'm a fellow

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<v Speaker 7>of the Explorers Club and some of the people that

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<v Speaker 7>were in that submersible were literally friends.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's kind of a heartbreaking sort of event. And

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<v Speaker 1>I will tell you that a little bit of hubris

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<v Speaker 1>goes a long way when it comes to pressure, because

0:25:22.880 --> 0:25:26.919
<v Speaker 1>pressure is inevitable. I mean it really is. Once you

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<v Speaker 1>get all this pressure pushing on you think about six

0:25:30.640 --> 0:25:35.119
<v Speaker 1>pounds per square inch. And what what had tried to

0:25:35.200 --> 0:25:39.000
<v Speaker 1>happen was a new and innovative design, and anybody who

0:25:39.040 --> 0:25:42.439
<v Speaker 1>innovates through anybody who's out in front, anybody who's trying

0:25:42.480 --> 0:25:47.040
<v Speaker 1>to work magic. Sometimes they get sometimes they get better.

0:25:47.800 --> 0:25:49.399
<v Speaker 5>But you knew these guys, so you've known some of

0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:51.880
<v Speaker 5>these guys. These were explorers. These are guys who had

0:25:51.920 --> 0:25:55.400
<v Speaker 5>credentials and checked and thought obviously that it would work.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I mean and it did in fact work

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<v Speaker 1>several times. But the problem is repeatability of process. So

0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:06.320
<v Speaker 1>you remember I told Jo was an expert in submersibles.

0:26:06.320 --> 0:26:09.040
<v Speaker 1>When I was in the Navy, I helped design and

0:26:09.080 --> 0:26:12.840
<v Speaker 1>build dry combat submersible here at Special Operations Command. The

0:26:12.920 --> 0:26:16.879
<v Speaker 1>reason why that hull is not made out of some

0:26:16.920 --> 0:26:20.400
<v Speaker 1>sort of a laid up carbon fiber over titanium, which

0:26:20.440 --> 0:26:23.239
<v Speaker 1>we looked at. I literally looked at that design and

0:26:23.280 --> 0:26:27.000
<v Speaker 1>it was like, there's no real repeatability of process, and

0:26:27.040 --> 0:26:30.080
<v Speaker 1>there's no real way to test it except destructive testing.

0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:32.879
<v Speaker 1>So every time you test something that you made, like

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<v Speaker 1>when you take steel and you put it under water,

0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:39.439
<v Speaker 1>it's not gonna deform. If it does deform, it's a problem.

0:26:39.440 --> 0:26:42.800
<v Speaker 1>But it's not going to deform. You're gonna compress it.

0:26:43.280 --> 0:26:45.280
<v Speaker 1>Let it go, compress it, let it go, compress it,

0:26:45.320 --> 0:26:47.080
<v Speaker 1>let it go. So that's kind of the thing that

0:26:47.119 --> 0:26:49.960
<v Speaker 1>we went with steel. It's easy enough to work. They

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do something different, make it lighter, composite, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>composite wrapped around titanium, which.

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<v Speaker 5>The integrity, the integrity kept kept being diminished, and they

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<v Speaker 5>didn't know that they and realize the point that it

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<v Speaker 5>did reach potentially.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I cannot speak intelligently to that, unfortunately,

0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:10.280
<v Speaker 1>but I can tell you what from my experience of

0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:16.000
<v Speaker 1>carbon fiber laid over titanium. Yes, the uh, little bubbles

0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:19.680
<v Speaker 1>in the carbon fiber make weak points and then when

0:27:19.720 --> 0:27:22.680
<v Speaker 1>the pressure increases, all of a sudden, when you keep

0:27:22.800 --> 0:27:25.119
<v Speaker 1>using it, it weakens that joint. Week is it weeks?

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<v Speaker 1>It we sink. Also, when you use two dissimilar metals

0:27:28.280 --> 0:27:31.359
<v Speaker 1>next to one another, you have problems, you have sharing,

0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:36.399
<v Speaker 1>you have extension issues. So it's very very particular. Like

0:27:36.640 --> 0:27:39.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, the Navy has made a manual called the

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<v Speaker 1>man ten pet and it's the one on deep submergence.

0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:47.080
<v Speaker 1>And every single thing that's in that book is written

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<v Speaker 1>in blood because we hurt somebody and we say, okay,

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:53.359
<v Speaker 1>let's not do that again. Right, And this is in

0:27:53.400 --> 0:27:57.640
<v Speaker 1>the heyday of doing underwater stuff. Right now, we realized

0:27:57.640 --> 0:27:59.919
<v Speaker 1>that underwater stuff is hard, and going back to your

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 1>question at the beginning, Guys, it's hard. It's hard, and

0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:08.000
<v Speaker 1>it's expensive, and that's why, you know, that's why people

0:28:08.080 --> 0:28:11.040
<v Speaker 1>are not really exploring the oceans unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 3>These submarines that we hear about military submarines, I mean,

0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:18.600
<v Speaker 3>I always thought, I don't know, I guess I'm reading

0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:22.800
<v Speaker 3>too many novels that spy submarines would go down and

0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:25.920
<v Speaker 3>those crews would be down for more than one hundred days?

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<v Speaker 4>Am I wrong about that?

0:28:27.800 --> 0:28:31.439
<v Speaker 1>Or ballistic missile submarines tend to go down for ninety

0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:34.119
<v Speaker 1>day periods at a time. They have stayed longer than

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred days, right, But remember that's a submarine. When

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:40.760
<v Speaker 1>you're in a submarine, you're at the same pressure you

0:28:40.840 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 1>are at right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, But those psychological aspects that we were talking about

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<v Speaker 3>for something like a Mars mission, I mean, do those

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<v Speaker 3>crews need to be vetted in the same way as

0:28:51.480 --> 0:28:52.240
<v Speaker 3>you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely absolutely. And you know, there's a very strict command

0:28:57.920 --> 0:29:01.840
<v Speaker 1>structure on board of nuclear submarine. You know, there are

0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:03.800
<v Speaker 1>things that have to be done in a certain order,

0:29:04.000 --> 0:29:06.760
<v Speaker 1>and everybody that works into that is trained into that

0:29:06.880 --> 0:29:09.120
<v Speaker 1>environment and they do. They train like they fight, and

0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 1>they fight like they train. So when they go order click,

0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:14.880
<v Speaker 1>lights out. You know, there's no cell phone. There's no

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:16.520
<v Speaker 1>call in your girlfriend, there's.

0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:19.160
<v Speaker 5>No Yeah, even with the increase in testosterone when you

0:29:19.160 --> 0:29:20.880
<v Speaker 5>go down, there's no calling anybody. You just got to

0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:22.680
<v Speaker 5>deal with that before you go. I got to ask

0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 5>you something. This may not be in your area of expertise,

0:29:25.040 --> 0:29:28.480
<v Speaker 5>but it's fascinating to me because we set the institute

0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:32.480
<v Speaker 5>that is studying communication with animals. They have whales and

0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:34.840
<v Speaker 5>they click, they make like a popcorn sound, they make

0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 5>the whale singing sound. They got AI sampling and sampling

0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:41.280
<v Speaker 5>and sampling and sampling trying to then decode what those

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:43.680
<v Speaker 5>things could possibly mean. Once it has a menu of

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 5>all of that stuff with the intent of maybe being

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:53.000
<v Speaker 5>able to then communicating. Is that is that something that's

0:29:53.080 --> 0:29:55.800
<v Speaker 5>that's that you know about or that's in the near future.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't know how near a way it is.

0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:02.320
<v Speaker 1>And here's why. When you are doing that type stuff,

0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:05.200
<v Speaker 1>what you need is the visual response from the animal

0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:09.680
<v Speaker 1>when they go what does that mean? That means left,

0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:12.880
<v Speaker 1>turn right, So they have to have an accompanying video

0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:16.440
<v Speaker 1>with say, hey, everybody turned left, so when they go

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:21.440
<v Speaker 1>that's a left turn or that's a right term whatever.

0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:26.280
<v Speaker 1>You know, all those clips and rings and all of

0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 1>that stuff.

0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:30.800
<v Speaker 3>I think you got a couple of the hand for

0:30:30.840 --> 0:30:32.560
<v Speaker 3>a while because we're starting to get scared now.

0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:36.760
<v Speaker 4>That was way too Thank you for being on doctor.

0:30:37.160 --> 0:30:38.440
<v Speaker 4>What a pleasure you guys.

0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:52.000
<v Speaker 3>When he says I did seven hours a day of science,

0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:55.280
<v Speaker 3>did you catch with science? Was he's He's taking his

0:30:55.320 --> 0:30:57.440
<v Speaker 3>own blood, he's taking his own urine, he's checking his

0:30:57.440 --> 0:30:57.960
<v Speaker 3>own ears.

0:30:57.960 --> 0:31:00.479
<v Speaker 4>He's the science was him. He was science.

0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:03.400
<v Speaker 5>We know that that's no, but that's how we got

0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:04.720
<v Speaker 5>to the Occyden one hundred days.

0:31:04.720 --> 0:31:06.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to go down there and take my blood

0:31:06.560 --> 0:31:08.960
<v Speaker 3>and check my my urine and washed it in the

0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:11.920
<v Speaker 3>cup and see if my eyeballs expanded.

0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:14.600
<v Speaker 5>And this is why we always think collectively, say, God,

0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:15.680
<v Speaker 5>you're not the guy going back.

0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:17.160
<v Speaker 3>To do the one hundred days. I don't think I

0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:19.080
<v Speaker 3>have a problem with that. I don't want to. I

0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:24.640
<v Speaker 3>need more activities, do any other things. You're in a tube, Jason, Yeah,

0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:25.360
<v Speaker 3>you're in a tube.

0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:25.560
<v Speaker 4>Trick.

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:28.200
<v Speaker 5>The amazing thing is that scholesterol went down over seventy points.

0:31:28.240 --> 0:31:28.920
<v Speaker 5>That's pretty shory.

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<v Speaker 4>That is the reason I would like to. By the way,

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:33.160
<v Speaker 4>I can't buy a lester down.

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:35.520
<v Speaker 3>If I could do that, rather than change my diet,

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:36.360
<v Speaker 3>if I just go down.

0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:38.360
<v Speaker 5>So here's what that would sound like to people listening.

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:40.000
<v Speaker 5>How do you get your cholestero down.

0:31:41.680 --> 0:31:46.360
<v Speaker 4>Number? Yeah, pretty fascinating. So cool guy. I liked him.

0:31:46.560 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 4>And he didn't have to hold his breath. Well, holding

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 4>breath is a thing. First of all, he went down

0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:54.880
<v Speaker 4>twenty two feet. I don't want you went to by

0:31:54.880 --> 0:31:58.320
<v Speaker 4>the way, twenty two feet. Guy did an amazing thing.

0:31:58.400 --> 0:32:00.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I know he's also a navy die so

0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:02.360
<v Speaker 3>he's been below twenty two feet. But the hotel was

0:32:02.440 --> 0:32:05.480
<v Speaker 3>twenty two which is not you know, we're not talking,

0:32:05.760 --> 0:32:12.000
<v Speaker 3>my gosh. So this is an area the world's deepest

0:32:12.120 --> 0:32:12.640
<v Speaker 3>free dive.

0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:14.760
<v Speaker 4>You know these people that they they take a.

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:17.360
<v Speaker 3>Lot of airran and then without benefit of anything down

0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:19.480
<v Speaker 3>they go. They go as far as they can and

0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:22.320
<v Speaker 3>then they slowly make that I don't understand why you

0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:24.880
<v Speaker 3>do that. The guy, I assume it's a guy, it's

0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:30.760
<v Speaker 3>a French name, so u Arnaud Gerald. He broke the

0:32:30.800 --> 0:32:33.000
<v Speaker 3>world's record. You know what, the world hold your breath

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:36.480
<v Speaker 3>No for deepest, the deepest, deepest free dive twenty four.

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<v Speaker 5>Feet, don't be don't being it. Whether it took me

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:48.520
<v Speaker 5>back home to he went down? See, I don't know what.

0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:52.480
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. Four hundred feet that's exactly right, four

0:32:52.480 --> 0:32:53.480
<v Speaker 4>one hundred feet.

0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:53.960
<v Speaker 6>Wow?

0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:56.240
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, under what but you said breath holding?

0:32:56.360 --> 0:33:02.880
<v Speaker 3>So the professional the world this is the name, I'm sure, okay,

0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:06.120
<v Speaker 3>but the person's name is Budemir and I think it's

0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:07.719
<v Speaker 3>Zobat all right?

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:10.800
<v Speaker 4>How long? Did how long? How long?

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<v Speaker 5>I kind of know that it's over. It's stunning. It's

0:33:13.280 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 5>over twenty minutes.

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 3>It's twenty four minutes and thirty seven second. All right,

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:19.520
<v Speaker 3>So now I will do something you're ready tell your

0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:20.320
<v Speaker 3>friendly four minutes.

0:33:20.600 --> 0:33:22.080
<v Speaker 5>I was going to say, gather around the radio, gather

0:33:22.120 --> 0:33:25.360
<v Speaker 5>around the podcast, because I've got the secret here. It

0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:28.280
<v Speaker 5>is the salting your sacred to holding your breath. Yeah,

0:33:28.440 --> 0:33:31.080
<v Speaker 5>I will reveal. I've never people don't talk about this,

0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:35.240
<v Speaker 5>but you got a figure. When James Cameron was doing Avatar, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>did he do a casting call for actors and said

0:33:37.480 --> 0:33:39.080
<v Speaker 5>I want Daniel d Lewis and said he can only

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<v Speaker 5>go four and a half minutes with all the breather Lewis,

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<v Speaker 5>But that's nothing that because you couldn't hold his breath.

0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:46.280
<v Speaker 5>That's what I'm saying, is that how you cast? Because

0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:48.680
<v Speaker 5>you read the Sigourney Weaver held her breath for six

0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 5>and a half minutes. I did not read that. Kate

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:55.240
<v Speaker 5>Winslet did seven minutes and fourteen seconds. Uh so of

0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:57.880
<v Speaker 5>breathel how do you do? Tom Cruise did six minutes?

0:33:57.920 --> 0:34:01.360
<v Speaker 3>And Cruise did but com Gruz was swimming like a

0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:02.040
<v Speaker 3>son of a gun.

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<v Speaker 5>So you want to hear the secret. Everbody you want

0:34:03.720 --> 0:34:05.160
<v Speaker 5>to hear a secret, tell me here it is, and

0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 5>they don't. They don't tell you this. So your body

0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:11.080
<v Speaker 5>when you're gasping for breath has CO two detectors. Then

0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:14.239
<v Speaker 5>they're an oxygen detectors. Obviously it's more attuned to the

0:34:14.239 --> 0:34:17.040
<v Speaker 5>CO two in your blood, the carbon nector. So your

0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:20.120
<v Speaker 5>body immediately your brain gets a signal when there's a

0:34:20.160 --> 0:34:22.160
<v Speaker 5>certain amount of CO two in your seeing sure your

0:34:22.200 --> 0:34:24.279
<v Speaker 5>oxygen I think is we're breathing twenty one percent or

0:34:24.320 --> 0:34:27.040
<v Speaker 5>something like that. So what these people do is they're

0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:31.160
<v Speaker 5>breathing one hundred percent oxygen for fifteen or twenty minutes,

0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 5>which adjusts there. So so they got all of this

0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:39.520
<v Speaker 5>blood rich in oxygen. Then they hyperventilate to get out

0:34:39.560 --> 0:34:41.120
<v Speaker 5>even even more SEO two.

0:34:41.360 --> 0:34:43.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, sure you can.

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:46.080
<v Speaker 5>If you do that, even untrained, you can probably hold

0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:48.960
<v Speaker 5>your breath for a couple of minutes because your system

0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:51.320
<v Speaker 5>doesn't kick in saying oh my gosh, oh my gosh,

0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:53.439
<v Speaker 5>you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna need to breathe.

0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:56.240
<v Speaker 4>You're gonna need to breathe. It overrides that system.

0:34:56.719 --> 0:34:59.279
<v Speaker 5>So what they do with the Sigourney givers unless not

0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:01.240
<v Speaker 5>unless jim Ca calls me, he tells.

0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:01.520
<v Speaker 4>Me I'm wrong.

0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:06.040
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, because I'm sure before she trained they make something they.

0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:10.320
<v Speaker 3>Should need a ham sandwich and then okay, I understand

0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:13.879
<v Speaker 3>pretty sure they get it. Can I mention something else?

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:16.879
<v Speaker 4>Of course? Who's who? Before we get into it? Could

0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:17.640
<v Speaker 4>you live in that.

0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:21.120
<v Speaker 3>Let's talk about Aquaman for a second, because we talked

0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:22.960
<v Speaker 3>about oh, we're going to communicate. You brought up the

0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:25.040
<v Speaker 3>whole thing we're going to communicate with the whales that

0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:27.480
<v Speaker 3>would seem to be Aquaman's big power. You know, they're

0:35:27.560 --> 0:35:31.080
<v Speaker 3>killing themselves to make an Aquaman movie that works. Can

0:35:31.120 --> 0:35:33.160
<v Speaker 3>I tell them take a break? Because it didn't work.

0:35:33.640 --> 0:35:35.759
<v Speaker 3>It didn't work as a content, it didn't work as

0:35:35.800 --> 0:35:36.520
<v Speaker 3>a comic strip.

0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:39.560
<v Speaker 4>It wasn't Aquaman. What are we talking about? He can

0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:44.000
<v Speaker 4>a special skill. He can hold his breath, which apparently

0:35:44.040 --> 0:35:46.719
<v Speaker 4>not anybody do that.

0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:52.600
<v Speaker 3>He can swim really fast, really and he in the

0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:55.520
<v Speaker 3>in the animated series, he could ride a giant seahorse.

0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:57.839
<v Speaker 4>Have you ever seen a giant seahorse? I've never seen one,

0:35:57.920 --> 0:35:59.080
<v Speaker 4>But what do you do?

0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:02.920
<v Speaker 3>But he could tell empathically communicate with animals to get

0:36:02.920 --> 0:36:05.799
<v Speaker 3>them to do what exactly.

0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:09.160
<v Speaker 4>Does a villain fifteen feet on land? Right? Yeah, all right,

0:36:09.200 --> 0:36:12.080
<v Speaker 4>Aquaman's pointless at that point. Didn't have something else that

0:36:12.680 --> 0:36:13.080
<v Speaker 4>must have had.

0:36:13.360 --> 0:36:15.719
<v Speaker 3>I think he had a try, but I'm confused. I

0:36:15.719 --> 0:36:18.759
<v Speaker 3>don't know if this was Aquaman or Ariel's father. In

0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:21.719
<v Speaker 3>the last in the moment, I had a tried it.

0:36:22.200 --> 0:36:24.680
<v Speaker 3>You know that like could sing, you could make fireworks.

0:36:24.680 --> 0:36:26.759
<v Speaker 3>But I don't know, what is that exciting? How is

0:36:26.800 --> 0:36:27.360
<v Speaker 3>that exciting?

0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:27.839
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:30.280
<v Speaker 3>On the fourth of July, it's very exciting.

0:36:30.320 --> 0:36:30.839
<v Speaker 4>I gotta try.

0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:31.879
<v Speaker 6>I know we're going to get mail.

0:36:31.960 --> 0:36:34.160
<v Speaker 5>But I watched a little Aquaman and it's just it

0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:36.040
<v Speaker 5>just doesn't.

0:36:35.280 --> 0:36:38.360
<v Speaker 4>MoMA is fine. But it's just who he's better on

0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:41.160
<v Speaker 4>dry land. He's better on dry land. Everybody is.

0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:45.480
<v Speaker 3>The only person not better on dry land was Esther Williams.

0:36:45.520 --> 0:36:47.640
<v Speaker 3>After that in Aquaman? Who was who else is in

0:36:47.680 --> 0:36:48.560
<v Speaker 3>there in that movie?

0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:51.839
<v Speaker 4>Amber heard? Oh wow, okay, I'm no comment.

0:36:51.840 --> 0:36:56.240
<v Speaker 3>And I can't remember. And Patrick Wilson plays the villain?

0:36:56.480 --> 0:37:00.880
<v Speaker 3>And is it how much of the movie takes place underwater? Okay,

0:37:00.920 --> 0:37:02.919
<v Speaker 3>all right if you like. By the way, by the way,

0:37:03.360 --> 0:37:07.279
<v Speaker 3>they they was great underwater. The hair, you know, that's

0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:10.520
<v Speaker 3>I love that. But they talking was on There was

0:37:10.520 --> 0:37:13.520
<v Speaker 3>no they talked like you and I are talking now.

0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:17.319
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. And when he communicated, did he do

0:37:17.360 --> 0:37:18.200
<v Speaker 4>it like our guy? When he.

0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:24.719
<v Speaker 3>No, he did not? Just it's telete. Yeah, you think.

0:37:26.040 --> 0:37:28.359
<v Speaker 5>The Jason was on the right Jason Mom sitting there born,

0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:30.719
<v Speaker 5>I could go for a tuna sandwich right now and

0:37:30.880 --> 0:37:32.000
<v Speaker 5>every right into his mouth.

0:37:34.400 --> 0:37:37.600
<v Speaker 3>Could you do the isolation? Forget the environment? Could you do?

0:37:38.160 --> 0:37:41.439
<v Speaker 4>Because you talked about this unbelievable?

0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:46.439
<v Speaker 5>I could, and then I couldn't. I think I could

0:37:46.480 --> 0:37:49.040
<v Speaker 5>because of COVID preppticed a little bit. I could see

0:37:49.080 --> 0:37:51.000
<v Speaker 5>if you weren't alone, But I wasn't alone.

0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:55.680
<v Speaker 4>But I wish, I wish. I'm kidding, it's it's a

0:37:55.680 --> 0:37:56.080
<v Speaker 4>tough one.

0:37:56.120 --> 0:37:59.320
<v Speaker 5>Everything I've read about isolation is really tough that you start.

0:37:59.160 --> 0:38:01.239
<v Speaker 3>Really losing your I don't think I could do it.

0:38:01.320 --> 0:38:05.120
<v Speaker 3>I do not like being Look, I have never as

0:38:05.120 --> 0:38:07.480
<v Speaker 3>an adult. I mean, I've done like you know, when

0:38:07.520 --> 0:38:09.360
<v Speaker 3>I've been on the road and stuff. I'm not with Dana,

0:38:09.400 --> 0:38:12.640
<v Speaker 3>but I've never lived alone. I went from college roommate,

0:38:12.719 --> 0:38:15.920
<v Speaker 3>college friends. I had a roommate when I came out

0:38:15.960 --> 0:38:19.080
<v Speaker 3>of college for alone, and then I met Dana, and

0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:21.400
<v Speaker 3>Dana and I have been together ever since.

0:38:22.800 --> 0:38:23.880
<v Speaker 4>I have never lived there.

0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:27.600
<v Speaker 5>And I like living alone. I like being alone. I'll

0:38:27.640 --> 0:38:29.960
<v Speaker 5>get stuff done alone for a period of time.

0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:33.439
<v Speaker 3>I'm okay for when I have to do like a stay.

0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:35.240
<v Speaker 3>If I go out of town to do a play

0:38:35.360 --> 0:38:38.680
<v Speaker 3>or do something, I'm good for a week, two or three,

0:38:38.719 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 3>and after that I go.

0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:42.760
<v Speaker 5>I don't like but your work is social. You're usually

0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:44.000
<v Speaker 5>in stuff with other people.

0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:46.120
<v Speaker 3>So that's that's really when I come home to the

0:38:46.160 --> 0:38:50.720
<v Speaker 3>empty hotel room or then, and I tell you the worst,

0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:55.680
<v Speaker 3>I cannot I can't go to bed. So Dana and

0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:57.840
<v Speaker 3>I we get into bed, we turn off the lights.

0:38:57.880 --> 0:39:01.200
<v Speaker 3>We go to sleep, the actor turning off the lights

0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:03.120
<v Speaker 3>and going, I'm gonna be unconscious now for a couple

0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:03.440
<v Speaker 3>of us.

0:39:03.480 --> 0:39:04.200
<v Speaker 4>I can't do it.

0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:06.200
<v Speaker 3>I have to have the TV on and I have

0:39:06.239 --> 0:39:08.279
<v Speaker 3>to fall asleep to the TV, which is not a

0:39:08.360 --> 0:39:09.040
<v Speaker 3>sound sleep.

0:39:09.360 --> 0:39:11.000
<v Speaker 5>It's it's dude, I got to tell you this, and

0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:12.600
<v Speaker 5>my wife will listening to this episode, but I got

0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:16.359
<v Speaker 5>to tell you. When I'm alone, She's like, I miss her.

0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:18.760
<v Speaker 5>On the other hand, I'm eating in bed, I'm watching

0:39:18.800 --> 0:39:23.080
<v Speaker 5>what I want to watch it. I don't have to.

0:39:23.440 --> 0:39:25.279
<v Speaker 5>I can't do And then she gets something. She goes

0:39:25.400 --> 0:39:26.680
<v Speaker 5>is staying in the bed? Did you have food in

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:27.880
<v Speaker 5>the bed? I go, why would I eat food in

0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:28.640
<v Speaker 5>the bed? Why would you say?

0:39:28.680 --> 0:39:31.239
<v Speaker 4>I what do you got?

0:39:33.120 --> 0:39:35.680
<v Speaker 8>Well, you really gave me a lot right there at

0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:42.880
<v Speaker 8>the end, there a yeah Aquaman, which was a shoot

0:39:42.880 --> 0:39:43.880
<v Speaker 8>from the sub Mariner.

0:39:43.920 --> 0:39:47.719
<v Speaker 3>I believe Naymore was the prince of the It was

0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:49.279
<v Speaker 3>sub Mariner, and then it was.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, I don't think the people at DC really care.

0:39:52.320 --> 0:39:58.080
<v Speaker 9>It grows over over a billion dollars, okay, all right,

0:39:58.200 --> 0:40:01.120
<v Speaker 9>one zero billion.

0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:06.240
<v Speaker 6>Worldwide is the highest grossing d C EU whatever.

0:40:06.320 --> 0:40:10.239
<v Speaker 9>That is film highest grossing film based on a DC

0:40:10.400 --> 0:40:14.359
<v Speaker 9>Comics character in the fifth highest grossing film of two

0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:15.080
<v Speaker 9>thousand and eight.

0:40:15.120 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 6>They're about to release the sequel. They were just what.

0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:20.280
<v Speaker 4>I'm looking on Rotten Tomatoes right now. You keep talking,

0:40:20.320 --> 0:40:23.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to check rout to the UH and Peter,

0:40:23.280 --> 0:40:26.040
<v Speaker 4>how are you pronouncing the star's name? I just want to.

0:40:28.640 --> 0:40:31.160
<v Speaker 9>Okay, I just thought you were putting in a William

0:40:31.239 --> 0:40:32.920
<v Speaker 9>William I said was in.

0:40:33.480 --> 0:40:35.000
<v Speaker 6>I thought you said something different.

0:40:35.080 --> 0:40:40.600
<v Speaker 4>That's all. A Nicole kidman was in that. Oafette was

0:40:40.680 --> 0:40:41.000
<v Speaker 4>in it.

0:40:41.680 --> 0:40:45.440
<v Speaker 9>A lot of people were a very talented and professional

0:40:45.440 --> 0:40:46.319
<v Speaker 9>people were in there.

0:40:47.440 --> 0:40:51.600
<v Speaker 6>So and I there is one other correction. The released

0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:53.440
<v Speaker 6>individual Albert A.

0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:59.160
<v Speaker 9>Wood Fox, who was the prisoner in isolation for forty

0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:02.879
<v Speaker 9>three years that was wrongly convicted and then tragically died.

0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:07.320
<v Speaker 9>He is not the longest to be in solitary confinement.

0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:10.120
<v Speaker 6>That is Robert.

0:41:10.080 --> 0:41:15.520
<v Speaker 9>Moldslee, who is a British Man who was in forty

0:41:15.600 --> 0:41:20.680
<v Speaker 9>five years of isolation, which means twenty three out of

0:41:20.680 --> 0:41:24.759
<v Speaker 9>twenty four hours a day he was in his cell.

0:41:25.120 --> 0:41:29.040
<v Speaker 9>It's interesting though, he's actually called Hannibal the Cannibal.

0:41:29.160 --> 0:41:31.759
<v Speaker 4>Based on the silence of the Lamb's.

0:41:31.520 --> 0:41:34.440
<v Speaker 9>Character for a couple of reasons, one of which is

0:41:34.920 --> 0:41:40.560
<v Speaker 9>his isolation cell has that glass oh right, like you

0:41:40.640 --> 0:41:45.279
<v Speaker 9>will remember from that absolutely yeah yeah yeah, like you

0:41:45.440 --> 0:41:50.800
<v Speaker 9>like when Clarice's would have that yeah, interplay with him.

0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:54.080
<v Speaker 1>And he it's very clear he he did do what

0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:55.160
<v Speaker 1>they said he did.

0:41:55.200 --> 0:41:59.440
<v Speaker 9>So he's not a very nice guy, but still.

0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:05.080
<v Speaker 4>Like your stuff. It's really terribul Thank you, sir.

0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:08.840
<v Speaker 3>Wow, by the way, you Appleman sixty six on rutten

0:42:08.880 --> 0:42:10.680
<v Speaker 3>to man doesn't matter it made a billion.

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:11.839
<v Speaker 4>I didn't say it.

0:42:11.800 --> 0:42:14.520
<v Speaker 6>Was well well reviewed. It wasn't well reviewed.

0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:16.080
<v Speaker 4>I didn't care for it myself.

0:42:16.480 --> 0:42:19.280
<v Speaker 3>When you and I make when Peter and I make things,

0:42:19.360 --> 0:42:21.920
<v Speaker 3>we don't get good reviews, but we don't make a

0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:23.000
<v Speaker 3>billion dollars either.

0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:30.960
<v Speaker 4>That you found funny, that you found funny? Really no, really,

0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:31.520
<v Speaker 4>and we're.

0:42:31.560 --> 0:42:35.160
<v Speaker 3>You I so underwood. We'll see you next time. Yeah,

0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:35.880
<v Speaker 3>announce it.

0:42:36.000 --> 0:42:36.759
<v Speaker 4>I will take us.

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<v Speaker 1>Really now, really.

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<v Speaker 6>Really really.

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<v Speaker 2>That's another episode of really you know really comes to

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<v Speaker 2>a cruise. You may be asking where researchers believe the

0:42:51.560 --> 0:42:55.520
<v Speaker 2>lost sunken city of Atlantis might be located. Well, I'll

0:42:55.560 --> 0:42:57.480
<v Speaker 2>tell you in just a moment, but first let's thank

0:42:57.520 --> 0:42:59.560
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0:43:47.239 --> 0:43:50.440
<v Speaker 2>is the legendary lost city of Atlantis? This is a

0:43:50.480 --> 0:43:54.920
<v Speaker 2>mystery that has confounded researchers and explorers for decades. No

0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:57.520
<v Speaker 2>one's been able to claim a definitive location for the

0:43:57.560 --> 0:44:00.640
<v Speaker 2>ancient city mentioned in the writings of Plato, but currently

0:44:00.680 --> 0:44:04.719
<v Speaker 2>there is speculation from noted scientists that place Atlantis off

0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:12.480
<v Speaker 2>of Greece, Crete, Cyprus, the Nile, Delta, Sardinia, Malta, Turkey, Spain, Morocco, Mauritania, Ireland, Denmark, Finland, Britain,

0:44:12.480 --> 0:44:14.800
<v Speaker 2>the America's Antarctica, and the North Pole.

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<v Speaker 6>Or, if I may paraphrase.

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<v Speaker 2>These noted scientists, we don't know where the lost city

0:44:19.640 --> 0:44:20.560
<v Speaker 2>of Atlantis is.

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