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So we got 11 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: a great story also coming up. We interviewed a sheriff 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: on the show a few weeks ago who was pretty upset, 13 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: if not the Inneueva, who was pretty upset about a 14 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: couple of drug smugglers getting out with low bail. Well, 15 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: you know what happened today. They didn't show up for 16 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 1: their court appearance, big surprise. Will get into the details. 17 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: California Justice and these two were running a huge fentnel operation, 18 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: big smuggling operations. They were caught on the roads in California. 19 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: They come Fromhington State, and of course, with our light 20 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: on criminal justice system right now. They were basically let 21 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: go with low bail and they didn't show up. You know, 22 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: sometimes there are stories I read them and I feel 23 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: like I'm reading a foreign language, like I understand half 24 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: of what I'm reading. But there's a there's a product 25 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: called Daily Harvest and it's a vegan food company. Devil 26 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: Mark had not heard of it, though they will. They will. 27 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: It's food service company. They'll sell you these froze vegan 28 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: dishes and then you heat it up or cook it. 29 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: They have one product called French Lentil and Leak Crumbles, 30 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: which sounds like a snack today. The hell is that 31 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: all a crumble meets? It's kind of a soft but 32 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: crunchy kind of a texture. It's honestly foreign language dish. 33 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: This dish was designed to be sauteed and then used 34 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: as a meat replacement in salads, tacos, and pastas. Oh, 35 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: I don't need to replace meat, but that's vegans for you. Anyway. 36 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: A lot of commentary with this Daily Harvest. We called 37 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: twenty eight thousand bags of the crumbles because customers complained 38 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: of symptoms consistent with acute liver failure. Oh that's great, wrenching, 39 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: abdominal pain, nausea, fevers, jaundice, full body itching. Wow, give 40 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: me more. And the company says it's the tarifflower. The 41 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: tower flower is apparently the seed of a tree that's 42 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: native to Peru. They make the flower from the seed. 43 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: Supposedly it's high end protein, it's got fiber, and they 44 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: use it as a thickening agent and vegan recipes. That's 45 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: why apparently was added to the crumbles. Thirty people had 46 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: their gallbladders removed. Thirty thirty. Oh i'd seen the storms, 47 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: just a few. I didn't know it. Oh No, there's 48 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: thirty people according to the La Times their gallbladder lists, 49 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: thirty dead gallbladders. Wow. All right, let's get Bill Marlern. 50 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: We've had Bill on before and he's representing two hundred 51 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: and eighty five Daily Harvest customers and he specializes in 52 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: food born illnesses. Bill, thanks for coming on again. Well, 53 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: it's good to be back. You know your intro. You 54 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,119 Speaker 1: guys have covered everything that I could ever say, So 55 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: maybe I'll just be quiet. One was like, you might 56 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: be questioning, you might be questioning their results. Is that 57 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: what I'm reading or what do you think? It's a 58 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 1: Tara flower. You just don't know. Yeah, no, no, I 59 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: do believe. In fact, I told him two and a 60 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,399 Speaker 1: half weeks ago that it was the Tara flower, and 61 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: so they conveniently took credit for my work. But what 62 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: we don't know and what we're still testing, what FDA 63 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: is still testing, is we're trying to find out what 64 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: in the Tara flower is making people sick. And we 65 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: know that it's the Arra flower, not just because of 66 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: the link to the these crumbles, but also there's another 67 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: food product, smoothie product actually produced in Canada that has 68 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: made about two or three dozen people sick with exactly 69 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: the same symptoms, and the common denominator is both Daily 70 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: Harvests and the smoothie company in Canada used tara from Peru. 71 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: Now is Tower flour in a lot of products with 72 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 1: many companies or was this some exclusive recipe that Daily 73 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: Harvest tat. Well, it's not just Daily Harvest's. It is 74 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: used sometimes it's called tara gum. It's used to bind 75 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: things together. But it's a relatively new product onto the market. 76 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: You know, indigenous people in Peru have been making it 77 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: for you know, hundreds and hundreds of years, and they 78 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: you know, they were able to get it onto the 79 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: international market. It's really been in the last handful of 80 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: years that it's been used. But there's absolutely no question 81 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: that it's the tara flower that was in the daily 82 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: harvest Crumbles and the revive that superfood smoothies. How do 83 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: you how do you know for sure it's that and 84 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: not all the other ingredients? Is it because of the 85 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: match in the Canadian smoothies? That that's That was the 86 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: clinching piece of evidence. That was the clinching piece of 87 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: evidence for me. But the other evidence is that, uh, 88 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: the only product that had tara flour in it in 89 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: the daily harvest selection of three or four dozen different 90 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: kinds of foods was the crumbles period that so they 91 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: tara was not in any of the other products. Now 92 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: you said the natives in Peru have been using it forever. 93 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: Is there something about the North American digestive system that 94 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: it's that it's not familiar? They built up an immunity 95 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: in Peru. I mean, why is it sickening them so? Well? 96 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: You know, bugs don't like the tara flower. Bugs don't 97 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: and animals don't eat the bush because it has natural tannins. 98 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: The Peruvian people use if a manufacturer one way with 99 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: the pods on it. UH. It has it's high end 100 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: tannins and they use it to frankly tanned leather. If 101 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: you produce it is a different way by taking the 102 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: pods off and just use the beans inside. They can 103 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: be a good versa of protein, which is why the 104 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: vegans instead of eating meat, decided to eat this so well, 105 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: and then that's right and they blow out their liver 106 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: and their gall bladder. It's nice. But what we don't know, 107 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: you know, is whether or not you know, the tanning 108 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: side of the of the manufacturing facility in Peru got 109 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: the bags mixed up with the protein side of the 110 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:54,559 Speaker 1: manufacturing facility, and that's what happens. Tan tannin can cause 111 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: acute liver failure UM, but it's in pretty high doses. UM. 112 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: The other thing that we're looking at is UH microtoxins, 113 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: which is UH you know, like for example, the powder 114 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: got wet and mold grew, that could be another source 115 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: of a toxin. Then there's also the possibility of some 116 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: sort of chemical adulteration. UM. Unfortunately, we've seen that over 117 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: the course of thirty years. To be doing this there 118 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: have been, you know, companies that juice products with chemicals 119 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: that maybe mimic protein, and the Chinese did that with 120 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: UH adding melamine to dog food to boost the chemical 121 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: that shows it's protein, but it actually was plastic. So 122 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: you had a budget cats and augums with kidney failure. 123 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: So no, yeah, I mean literally thousands of them. And 124 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: this is oh gosh, almost fifteen sixty years ago. But yeah, 125 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: so we don't know. I we have test we're testing, 126 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: doesn't doesn't the products the FDA is testing. We're actually 127 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: testing the breast milk of a mom who got sick 128 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: and passed this whatever this is onto their old infant. 129 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: So we're testing the breast milk to see if we 130 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: can discern what it is it's making people sick. Now, 131 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: do people recover fully or are their organs permanently damaged? Well, 132 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: you know, I yeah, I know. I'm a lawyer and 133 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be alarmist, but I'm going to try 134 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: not to be here. I'm hopeful that it's um non gmo, 135 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: organic happy thing that is going to be absorbed through 136 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: the body and it just passes and people are sick. 137 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 1: Some people lost their gall bladder, but there's just going 138 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: to go away and there's not going to be any 139 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: long term complications. The problem with that is without knowing 140 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: what it is that's in the terra is causing people 141 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: to have acute liver failure, we don't know if there's 142 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 1: a long term complications yet. I'm hopeful there's not, but 143 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: I just don't know. And I saw him one of 144 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: the stories Bill that it took a while for the 145 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: symptoms to show up, even weeks. Why is it like 146 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: six to eight weeks? Yeah, so, um, some of that. 147 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: Some of the people we put it this way, I've 148 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: spoken to I now represent three twenty six people, so 149 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: I've spoken to probably three hundred of those folks myself. 150 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,599 Speaker 1: It almost all have identical symptoms. The time frame for 151 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: onset of illness can vary between a few days to weeks. 152 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: A lot of that might have to do with how 153 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: often they hate it. We have reports of people eating it, 154 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 1: getting sick. Here four days later, going to hospital to 155 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 1: get home, they're hungry, they hated again, and they get 156 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: sick again. So there's been there. You know, there's a 157 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 1: lot to learn. The great thing is I'm at a 158 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: view of you know, over three hundred people. I'm sharing 159 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: all of this information, by the way, the FDA and 160 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: we'll daily harvest and you know, I mean, I'm trying 161 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: to push every button I can to get information out 162 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: there so we can tell the public and frankly the 163 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: physician you know what the hecks in the product. So 164 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 1: before you go, I may have to call you because 165 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: you've probably heard about the big old off listeria outbreak. 166 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, I actually filed the first lawsuit in Pariday. 167 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: So it's Sara Sota, Florida. It's John Ain't that ice 168 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: creams I went to Sarah Sota last month and my 169 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: wife and I had some big, some big old off 170 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 1: ice cream. And you're supposed to it's supposed to take 171 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: two months maybe before your symptom exactly. Yeah, it's three 172 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: to seventy days. So set your watch so on day seventy, 173 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: you know, if you're not sick. If you're not sick, 174 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 1: call me back. I'll call you back. I'll bet the 175 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: and in that case and bill before you go, here's 176 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: a quick question. Uh, in all your years of following 177 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: food borne illnesses as an attorney, is it more likely 178 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: that you're going to get sickened from a vegetable or 179 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: a meat nowadays, um so I would say it's definitely 180 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: a vegetable. Let's just Bill. These two go back and forth. 181 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 1: She's a vegan, he's a meat eater, and they torture 182 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: each other with stories. From there you go, Well, got 183 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: a legal opinion there. Yeah, meat, meat might kill you 184 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 1: in the long run, but especially like romaine, lettuce and 185 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: sprouts kill you in the short run. I'll start it, well, 186 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 1: thank you for spending some time with us. You're one 187 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: of the best we've seen business. I'll be calling you 188 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: next month. Yea. My vote is always a good Scotch 189 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: and a pizza. There you go. That's it, Bill, Thank 190 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: you for coming on. Cheers, guys. That's Bill Marler. He's 191 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: a food borne Hillis attorney and just as I remember, 192 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: he is just fantastic. He really can explain. And he 193 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: was talking about the vegan story. I'm not a fan. 194 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: I had to stick that question. I didn't know which 195 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: I was gonna go. I really didn't know. I didn't either. 196 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: I can't say I'm not happy I both meat and 197 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: vegetables side. Yes, you do know where it leaves me? 198 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: All right, Well, not that long ago a couple of 199 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: guys from the state of Washington were driving through California 200 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 1: and they got pulled over in Tularey County and it 201 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: was found that they had a bunch of fentanyl pills 202 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: in their car, estimated to be worth seven hundred and 203 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars. Also found was two kilograms of cocaine. 204 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: So they were pulled into court. And because California is 205 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: you know, doesn't really have a criminal justice system, this 206 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: is inn La County, they were let go without bail. 207 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,719 Speaker 1: That's it, on their own recognaissance show back for your 208 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: court date, which was today, as it turns out, Thursday, 209 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: July first, And anybody have a guess what happened today. 210 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: They may have a guess. They did. Guess, Yeah, that 211 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: they didn't. They did not attend the hearing. We're never 212 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: going to see them again on a hundred fifty thousand 213 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: fentnel pills. And we had the sheriff on when this 214 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: happened because he couldn't believe it either. What this was 215 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: a judge, This was a judge. You decided not to 216 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: require bail. Yes, how do you not require bail when 217 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: they have one hundred and fifty thousand fentinel pills. How's 218 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: that possible? According to the sheriff, his name is Mike Boudreau. 219 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: He said that he didn't learn about the order until 220 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: it was far too late. I couldn't believe he had 221 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty thousand fentnel pills. One of the 222 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: most dangerous epidemics facing our country today, with people in 223 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: custody that may potentially be able to impact the future 224 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: of this type of drug traffic and organization, and we 225 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: let them go. Yeah, it must have been big deals 226 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: in that fentanyl cartel that they worked for. If they're 227 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: being trusted with one hundred and fifty thousand pills. The 228 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: feeling is if they had to put down some real money, 229 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: that they would have had a stake in this and 230 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: maybe they would have shown up for their court date 231 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: if you know, you gave them a bale of hundreds 232 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: of thousands of dollars. But well, I don't care. Why probably, 233 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: Why don't you use other traffickers next time? They don't 234 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: have to come back through California. If they do, what 235 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: are their chances of being pulled over in that county? Well, 236 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: the thing is now, if they get caught, and they 237 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: may disappear into Mexico or who knows where. Now the 238 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: judge says they'll be held without bond. Oh yeah, because 239 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: it's a warrant because they didn't show up. Sure, now 240 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: now they will. Why it's the judge mentioned in this story. 241 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: I can't find his name. Well, here's actually how it works. 242 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: Their bill was supposed to be a million dollars because 243 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: of the quantity of drugs that they took. But this 244 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: county has a probation department and they do one of 245 00:14:55,560 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: those risks assessment profiles and they classified as low risk 246 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: because it's non violent, right, Well, who's the guy who 247 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: did That's it spits out of a computer? I think 248 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: depends on the actual case, had any criminal histories, So 249 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: somebody would to take an axe to that computer. What 250 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: a stupid formula? No, honestly that that's that's absurd. And 251 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: then they get to blame it on the computer. The cowards. No, 252 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: they should. They should go out to the press in 253 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: front of cameras and microphones and say this is why 254 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: we thought these guys who had one hundred and fifty 255 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: thousand fentinel pills. Do you know how many people dive 256 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: opioid over Joses in America one hundred thousand a year, 257 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: now one hundred thousand, a lot of them from Fentinel. 258 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: This is what's killing teenage kids, college kids. The DA 259 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: up there is Tim Ward, and he said, well, there's 260 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: a pre trial release program. But they did this covertly 261 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: in the middle of the night. What we discovered here 262 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: was that it was occurring based on a decision without 263 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: any foundation of the facts. Did they get a bad 264 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: phone call from the drug cartel because they were arrested 265 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: at seven thirty pm and I think the case was 266 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: immediately turned over the probation department to spat out a decision. Oh, 267 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: you don't have to put bail on them, Well I'm 268 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: serious today get threatened, like the drug cartel says, hey, 269 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: you got two of our main distributed county Yeah, yeah, yeah. 270 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: The office that got threatened, it's like, well, we don't 271 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: want drug cartel guys coming in here with an AK 272 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: forty seven and blowing us away. Here, you can have 273 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: them back. This is such an outrageously bad decision. It 274 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: makes me wonder if they were coerced, you really would 275 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: do this on your own. One hundred and fifty thousand 276 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: pills and there's no bail, not even a dollar. That 277 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: judge's name is at the end of the story, Nathan Leady. 278 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: He's issued new arrest warrants for the men, and now 279 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: the bail is two point one five million. Now it 280 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: is in state prison if convicted. It's wrong. We don't 281 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: have to find them first. And I don't think you'll 282 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: ever see these two its. Why you know, how many 283 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 1: times are these risk assessors wrong? How many times you've 284 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: ever heard that? And they're always their names already in 285 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: the story. They're always nameless, faceless, they're hiding behind a formula, 286 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: hiding behind a computer. These are dangerous and competent government boobs. 287 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: All right, we got more covered up, Nathan Leedy, John 288 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: and Ken show Cafi developing story this afternoon. We'll have 289 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 1: a lot more on at five o'clock. But apparently a 290 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: man that George Gascon gave favorable treatment to because he 291 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: was only seventeen when he murdered somebody aided by Proposition 292 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 1: fifty seven, who was released from prison after only serving 293 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: six years for a murder. Think about that. He was 294 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: given a fifty year to life sentence, But of course 295 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: that was back before Gascon in prop fifty seven, fifty years. 296 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: He was out in six He apparently has been picked 297 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 1: up in Palmdale. It looks like it was a police pursuit. 298 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: He had a gun, he had drugs. It's all there, 299 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: apparently in the press release from Gascon's office, they're disappointed 300 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: that he has not availed himself to the support that 301 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: he so clearly needs. Oh my god, I saw that 302 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: line and I almost threw up. He got arrested at 303 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: least six charges felony, evading, felony in possession, possession of 304 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: meth for sale, possession of cocaine for sale, DUI under 305 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: the influence of drugs, and then having drugs at a gun. 306 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: And he's got tattoos all over his neck. So he's 307 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: like a career bad guy and he's uh in twin murder. 308 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: And Gascon's responses were disappointed to learn that he's not 309 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 1: availed himself of the support he needs. Well, what do 310 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 1: you think, he's a psychotic murderer. They don't go for rehab. No, 311 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: what's wrong with people? Psychotic murderers don't show up. I 312 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: need some help. I'm emotionally distressed. I mean, I'm just 313 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: angry all the time. I can't seem to control myself anymore. 314 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: Oh what does he say? Oh when when men reach 315 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: age twenty five, that's when they're more mature, right, except 316 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 1: when they're not well. He's past twenty five. This guy, 317 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: apparently he has not matured and learned to live a 318 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 1: regular life. He's still out there dealing drugs. You know, 319 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,479 Speaker 1: you don't learn the people that understand. It's not an 320 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: intellectual process to learn how to be civilized. These are 321 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: impulses in the brain, sometimes obsessive impulses. He can't control 322 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 1: his anger, he can't control his desire for violence, he 323 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: can't control his need to hurt people. And his brain 324 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: is all screwed up on drugs anyway. So the brain, 325 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: the brain is constantly misfiring because it's it's so so 326 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: loaded with drugs, saturated with drugs. I mean, stop this. 327 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: You're not dealing with rational people. I'm gonna think it through. 328 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to count to ten and and next time, 329 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: you know, I won't shoot the guy in the head. 330 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: We'll have more of this at five o'clock. We'll talk 331 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: to the deputy DA was originally assigned to this case 332 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: for more detail, but it's another GASCAR at least this 333 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: guy didn't murder two police officers, but oh he eventually 334 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 1: he was going to kill somebody again. Now, Gavin Knewsome 335 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: just signed a bill that deals with the subject that 336 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: has been long. It's long for years. Come up on 337 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: the John and Ken show. What to do with the SVPs, 338 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 1: the sexually violent predators. The way this works, you commit 339 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: heinous act, and of course the Pillowcase rapist is a 340 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: great example. We followed that story and indeed even went 341 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: up to the Enelope Valley to help residence up there, 342 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: try to keep them out of their neighborhood. But he, 343 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: of course would. It was terrible. He would he would 344 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: go into women's homes when the husband was at work 345 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: or away, and he would rape the women. He would 346 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 1: tie them up. He was disgusting, evil. Well, you know, 347 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 1: he kept getting prison sentences and kept coming out and 348 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: kept raping women again. So after he served his last sentence, 349 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: they used what they call their sexually violent Predator laws, 350 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: which had passed sometime during that era of sanity back 351 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 1: in the nineties. We had too much crime and they 352 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 1: had this idea that they'll just put them in state 353 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 1: mental hospitals and hold them there. But eventually even that 354 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: runs out and they are due for a release if 355 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: they petition for it. So this new idea is to 356 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: put GPS on them, Global positioning systems on the SVPs. Now, 357 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: I don't know how long this is going to last. 358 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 1: In other words, if he's released, does he have to 359 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: wear how many tracking device for the rest of his life? 360 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: Or First of all, how many guys have cut their 361 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: tracking devices? And wouldn't you cut them right before you 362 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 1: committed your next rape? But if you cut them, that 363 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: would be beep, beep beep, they would know. Yeah, but 364 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 1: in the meantime you got the little girl at the 365 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 1: elementary school. No, it's true, you could carry out a 366 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 1: crime saying that that would at least send on an alarm. 367 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 1: Although yeah, but never the Phil Garino case from years ago, 368 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,719 Speaker 1: and he had tracking device, he kept cutting them off 369 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: and nobody ever responded to the alarm. Yeah, somebody has 370 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: to track the alarm. He kidnapped that little girl. What 371 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 1: if the guy doesn't care, Because when you have a 372 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: sexual obsession like that, a compulsion, you're not thinking about 373 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: the consequences. In fact, there's lots of guys who blow 374 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: up their lives with impulsive sex acts. Right, how many 375 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: guys screw up their marriages just because they have a 376 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: quickie with somebody. Guys who can't control their sexual desires 377 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: ruin their lives all the time, knowing that there's going 378 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: to be consequences. Well, these guys are psychotic about it. 379 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: So having a tracking device is going to change anything. 380 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: Odds are no one's going to be tracking you anyway. 381 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: And all the bill passed and knew some sign that. 382 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: Of course the civil rights people are up at arms 383 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: because they serve their time. They should be free, they 384 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: shouldn't be something any kind of tracking. Yeah, well, you know, 385 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: you know what this is. And this is what a 386 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: politician does. He's actually on the you know, Newsom's on 387 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: the side of the ace. Heelu. Right, do you actually 388 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: thrink think Gavin Newsom and the ACLU leaders disagree on anything. 389 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: Of course they don't. But Newsom, he's a politician, wants 390 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: to run for president. He can't just open the floodgates 391 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: of sexually violent predators. Right. Well, you know we've come 392 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 1: up with I think a middle ground and you know 393 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: we're going to put these GPS bracelets on them and 394 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: you know they're gonna have constant twenty four hour surveillance. 395 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: And so it's a cover story, it's a press release, 396 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: but everybody knows it's not going to stop a guy 397 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 1: from savagely raping a little girl. If that's what he 398 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: wants to do, that's what he's gonna do. They you 399 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: think they should stay locked up forever. Yes, they should 400 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: stay lock it up forever, because I have never seen, 401 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: and I got looking for this, I've never seen any 402 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: evidence that there is any success full treatment of somebody 403 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: with a sexual obsession, a compulsion that never goes away, 404 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: and everybody knows it never goes away. Nobody tries to 405 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: pretend to any of this stuff works. They never say 406 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: that it works. They'll just say, well, we don't think 407 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: he's a danger anymore. But they never say, hey, we 408 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 1: have the program that's worked. We have cured two hundred 409 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: and sixty three sexual advent predators. You notice nobody ever 410 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: brags about that. You never see an interview with somebody saying, 411 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: you know what, we came up with a perfect way 412 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 1: to heal the fevered brains of these sexual predators. No, 413 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: nobody has a clue that that whole industry hasn't made 414 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: one inch of progress in a hundred years. All right, 415 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 1: we got more coming up. We had told you the 416 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: other day that there was a truck or protest on 417 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 1: the one ten Freeway in downtown Los Angeles. The trucks 418 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 1: were blocking lanes and driving slow. They don't like this 419 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: AB five. That's the bill that past years ago, which 420 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 1: is going to turn them into employees when they preferred 421 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: to be independent truckers. They are really carrying on up 422 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 1: in Oakland at the port there. We'll talk about it 423 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 1: next John and Ken show is pe It was in 424 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's cabinet as the head of the Transportation Department. 425 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: And it's really common sense questioning from a CNBC host 426 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: about all this stuff about climate change and we have 427 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: to give up on fossil fuels. It doesn't really do 428 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: any good if the rest of the world isn't doing it. China, 429 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 1: India building all these fossil fuel plants. How does this 430 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: doesn't pan house? It's good the meantime, people need to 431 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: air condition their homes or heat their homes in the winter. 432 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: How do they get around all this? And I kind 433 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: of back boutagage into a corner. Yeah, we're all except baseball. 434 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 1: We have to put more pressure on those countries. So thanks. 435 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: In the meantime, die of heat exhaustion in your home, right. 436 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: I mean, we've on this. How well do we know this? 437 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: In California? We've been subject to this nonsense now for 438 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: like fifteen years. The boot builds it, it passed to 439 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: get us to cut back carbon when the rest of 440 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: the country alone, the rest of the world is not 441 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: doing anything like this. Boodha Gedge is another one of 442 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: these empty cans, like Garcetti or Newsom. They're all the 443 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: same guy and and the thing is they're never pressured. 444 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: Here's a rare interview where the guy pushed him on 445 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: the logic of his entire premise. Because when you push 446 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 1: hit them on the logic, everything falls apart and you 447 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: realize Buddha Gedge doesn't know what he's talking about. He's 448 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: pushing some kind of utopian propaganda nonsense. It doesn't work 449 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: in the real world. It's not gonna work. That's why 450 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: I don't even get upset about this stuff so much anymore, 451 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: because I know it will never work, and eventually they'll 452 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 1: run into a wall or the public will wake up 453 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 1: and realize these people have to be tossed in the street. 454 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 1: All right, we'll play you this audio and don't get 455 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: people who are enamored with booda j You know what 456 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: really is good looks does get you a long way. 457 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: It really does. I don't know. I didn't do well 458 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 1: in the presidential primary, so I don't think, well that 459 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: enamored with him, But Derry enamored internally with him. They're 460 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: talking about how he's going to be one of the 461 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 1: top contenders. He's not. He had knew some ash heap 462 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: of history. If these guys were always ask yourself this. 463 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 1: Listen to them talk, close your eyes and imagine the 464 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: guy is short, fat, and bald. Are you going to 465 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: be as enamored with him? And the answer is no. 466 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the truckers. There's a possibility 467 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: this could be a bluff that seventy thousand truckers in 468 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: California are going to give up operations because this Assembly 469 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: Bill five that was passed a few years back is 470 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: going to force them to become employees of trucking companies. 471 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: These are our independent truckers. They have been shutting down 472 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: the Port of Oakland for days to make their point. 473 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 1: They're kind of out of options because even the US 474 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: Supreme Court decided not to take a look at their 475 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: appeal against a B five. They're hoping that Gavin Newsom 476 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,479 Speaker 1: will spend some time and talk to them about what 477 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 1: they can work out. Here is the deal. Truckers who 478 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 1: operate independently sometimes operate a few trucks, so they contract 479 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: with different carriers and brokers who need freight hauled long distances. 480 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: The law taking effect means that they would have to 481 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: become either employees of those companies or they would have 482 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: to directly employ others. And then when they sometimes subcontract 483 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: out some of their truck business, it gets really complicated 484 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: because under the law, the people they subcontract out to 485 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,479 Speaker 1: would have to become their employees. You follow this, it's 486 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: a little crazy, but somewhere in there is the unbelievable 487 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: bureaucratic mess they'll get involved with, and it's going to 488 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: cost them because this wasn't set up to help the 489 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: trucking industry. This was set up to help unions who 490 00:28:56,040 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: want to unionize these small truck companies and was pushed 491 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: by Lorena Gonzales and the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, who 492 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: cheered the law. Yeah, and he she is now the 493 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: California Labor Federation head. So she pushed a bill for 494 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: the teamsters and now she's head of the Labor Federation. 495 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: That was the payoff she got for pushing this. The 496 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: Teamsters want to use this as a as a club 497 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: to beat small trucking companies into unionizing. But this was 498 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: not a problem. This is a law in search of 499 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: a problem that didn't exist. The California Trucking Association is 500 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: the group that's been fighting this. They say overwhelmingly their 501 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: members said, we're not going to become employees. We don't 502 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: want to do that. We enjoy contracting out independently on 503 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: our own and hauling what we like when we want 504 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: to do it. So I don't know if they're forced, 505 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: and it's not even clear what the enforcement mechanism would be, 506 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: but the implication is if they're forced to quote become employees, 507 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: some of them are just not going to do this anymore. 508 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: We've already got a supply chain problem, right, We've already 509 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: got problems with the shortage detruct drivers. We want to 510 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: lose thousands more, even if they don't all Quinny Tall 511 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: seventy thousand don't walk away if ten thousand walk away, 512 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: that's an issue. If this is easier to understand. So 513 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: when you when you see that Lorena Gonzalez and the 514 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: whole Democratic legislature passed this, why did they pass it? 515 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,959 Speaker 1: It obviously makes nonsense. They passed it because they get 516 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: they're corrupt and they get payoffs from the teamsters. The 517 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: teamsters are corrupt, the legislatures corrupt, so they did a deal. 518 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: It's about that deal. It's not about the truckers. It's 519 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: not about us whether we're going to get our stuff 520 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: delivered on time. It's about their corrupt deal because the 521 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: teamsters will force these companies into unionizing, reap a big 522 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: windfall of cash and union dues, and then send a 523 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: share of the cash over to the politicians. So everybody 524 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: makes money out of this. Lorena Gonzalez got a new 525 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: cool job, The teamsters get a lot of dues money, 526 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: the legislator legislators get a lot of nations under it 527 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: over the table, and the truckers are left with some 528 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: kind of stupid mess. All right, we got more covered 529 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: up Banana Republic. 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