WEBVTT - Celebrities Bring Messy To Another Level

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, guys, welcome back to I Do Part two. It's

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<v Speaker 1>your celebrity mentors Cheryl Burke and Jen Bessler back with you,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have a lot to talk about. Last time

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<v Speaker 1>we did this, we had a lot to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this time we have maybe more right. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just like always something happening in the world of divorce

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<v Speaker 1>and breakups.

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<v Speaker 2>Always it's it never gets old, does it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it never gets old and always fun to talk about,

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<v Speaker 1>especially with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Good to see you again, Good to see you always.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope to see you in person one day.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, right, I feel like we a little streams

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<v Speaker 1>that we haven't met in person. It feels like we.

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<v Speaker 2>Have I know. Should we talk about my partner?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Please?

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<v Speaker 2>So I danced with Ryan Lockede many many decades ago.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like though it wasn't It was probably just

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<v Speaker 2>a decade ago. He obviously has gone through a divorce,

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<v Speaker 2>not obviously, but for those that keep up with the Joneses,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what's been happening over in Lockedy world and has

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<v Speaker 2>now been a born again after a rocky year, which

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<v Speaker 2>is great, like more power to him. I just I

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<v Speaker 2>never saw signs of that when we were dancing together,

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<v Speaker 2>not like you know, by the way, people can totally

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<v Speaker 2>evolve and absolutely you know, turn to God when you've

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<v Speaker 2>hit rock bottom, it happens a lot. Well, he had

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<v Speaker 2>also just gotten out of rehab, yes, and that is

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<v Speaker 2>something I actually just found out recently. I had no

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<v Speaker 2>idea that he had such issues with substance abuse. Mind

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<v Speaker 2>you you know, when I danced with him, I was

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<v Speaker 2>not sober. So like we partied together a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>like we would go out, but I would kind of

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<v Speaker 2>keep him on a tight leash because I'll never forget.

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<v Speaker 2>We went to go to we went to Vegas and

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<v Speaker 2>part of our package before you know, the stuff that

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<v Speaker 2>they air prior to our dance, we had to learn

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<v Speaker 2>from the Bellaggio show, oh from CIRCUSLA And so we

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<v Speaker 2>had to go to Vegas for a weekend and my

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<v Speaker 2>friends were there. Just it was a coincidence. We went

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<v Speaker 2>out and I was like Ryan at two am, I was.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, you better go back to your room. We've got

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<v Speaker 4>camera blocking tomorrow. I don't want to smell alcohol on you.

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<v Speaker 4>And supposedly for my friends, he pretended to go to

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<v Speaker 4>his room and then was out till seven in the morning.

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<v Speaker 4>I was so mad at him, but that was our relationship.

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<v Speaker 4>We were like brothers sister.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean listen, you can't say if he's if

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<v Speaker 1>he's found God, God bless him. I guess he exactly did, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he did a what is it called, uh

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<v Speaker 1>just got baptized baptized. See, I'm sorry jewish, he just

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<v Speaker 1>got back. But did he do it? Was it like

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<v Speaker 1>a whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>With wa Yeah, with water, yes, definitely. I mean he's

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<v Speaker 2>a swimmer. Just kidding, kidding, okay, right. You know, he

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<v Speaker 2>said that he loved sharing his life with his fans followers,

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<v Speaker 2>but this divorced with Kayla, his ex wife, hasn't been

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily a smooth ride. I mean, what divorce is at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the day. But they have issues, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously with custody. She does mention I guess in court

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, he was suffering from substance abuse and

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<v Speaker 2>she didn't want him around the kids. I mean it

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<v Speaker 2>started to get I mean from the article that I read,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess she mentioned that one time he was sniffing

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<v Speaker 2>something in front of the kids and then was nervous

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<v Speaker 2>that he was going to drive the kids. But obviously

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<v Speaker 2>he denies that it's just a battle. I'm just grateful

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<v Speaker 2>I never had kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, so I feel like specifically from men, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of line after divorce, reinvention, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, Like I had a lot of sort

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<v Speaker 1>of I don't know this obviously the specifics here, but

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of trauma. I mean is well, you do know,

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<v Speaker 1>very traumatic, right they say it's like up there one

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<v Speaker 1>of the top three. Absolutely no, right, So I guess

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<v Speaker 1>some reach for alcohol and drugs. They want to reach,

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<v Speaker 1>want to and good for him, he's reaching for God. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so right, So I don't know. I mean I also, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I also think that a lot of times.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope it's not performative. I hope he means it.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if he is dating somebody I believe, or

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<v Speaker 2>is he engaged. I don't think he's engaged. Now he's dating.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody Molly Gilahan Gillahan.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if maybe she's Christian, you know, you never know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I hope that she's you know, whoever, It

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter if she's Christian or not. Honestly, if she's

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<v Speaker 2>a great influence, that's a good sign. I mean, she

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<v Speaker 2>also comes from. I think she has kids of her

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<v Speaker 2>own as well. Have you ever had a spiritual awakening

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<v Speaker 2>after a breakup or a divorce?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely not my pattern. Let's see, well, because I've been

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've been married a while. But my pattern

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<v Speaker 1>was always to throw myself into something to numbt and

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<v Speaker 1>I never was smart enough to Thank God, I was

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<v Speaker 1>more like you know other men who my father I

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<v Speaker 1>used to say, it is a disgusting thing, And he

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<v Speaker 1>said a lot of disgusting things, one of which was

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<v Speaker 1>the only way to get over one person is to

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<v Speaker 1>get under another.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I know, that's nasty. I mean my father was

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<v Speaker 2>quite nasty as well. Yeah, my father was.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, are we sure? Are we not sisters?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I wish? But listen, I mean I think I I

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<v Speaker 1>some way probably followed that advice, not quite as literally,

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<v Speaker 1>but I always threw myself into stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>More than it's an addiction, I think it's something as

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<v Speaker 2>society today because we celebrate the hustle, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>hustle just equals numbing because we're just constantly needing to

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<v Speaker 2>stay busy and sitting in stillness is terrifying for I

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<v Speaker 2>think a lot of people, but I for I mean

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<v Speaker 2>for me, I definitely went. I did in a way,

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<v Speaker 2>turned to transcendental meditation as soon as I split, like

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<v Speaker 2>I needed and mind you, I was already looking into

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<v Speaker 2>it prior. Obviously you've also been sober.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been sober for a long time. So I'm seven

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<v Speaker 1>years old, so that's a long time. I mean you've

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<v Speaker 1>assuming that that there's a big spiritual component.

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<v Speaker 2>To your God. Yeah, it's it's absolutely that. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we hand you know, our lives to God and we

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we have a higher power whether you want

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<v Speaker 2>to call it God or not, but you know, there

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<v Speaker 2>is that as far as the program goes, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But I felt like, especially during COVID, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>really dove into like all of these online courses, mental

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<v Speaker 2>health courses. I signed up for so much. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was just at that time though I was

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<v Speaker 2>still doing Dancing with the Stars because the show still happened,

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<v Speaker 2>but like there was something that I just wanted more of,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it was just spirituality. I never really

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<v Speaker 2>I was born, I was baptized Catholic, my mother's Catholic,

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<v Speaker 2>but I never really I didn't really want to sit

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<v Speaker 2>up and stand up and stand up kidding.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you don't like exercise, right, you don't like to Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I hate I hate it. I prefer just sitting

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<v Speaker 2>my ass down on chairs. But anyway, no, I can

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<v Speaker 2>just see it now. She hates Catholicism, like no, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>not going there, folks.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a little bit I think. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 1>is we're getting off un attention. But I just during COVID,

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely was searching also, and a lot of Eckart toole.

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<v Speaker 2>God, he puts me to sleep though bad voice.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh his voice. I would take song walks and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe you know, after something like this, I could

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<v Speaker 1>like a divorce. That seems to be the healthiest way

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<v Speaker 1>to go, right, Yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I think it's all numbing at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the day, right, We're all numbing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, okay. So apparently Russell Crowe is not interested in

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<v Speaker 1>getting married again, did you? Apparently he was on sixty

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<v Speaker 1>Minutes and he has his current girlfriend, Britney Theiro. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if I'm saying that correctly, And there are

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<v Speaker 1>rumors that they were getting engaged and he said no way, no, how.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I watched the interview. It was yeah, he's definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he's sixty one, she's thirty three. Will it

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<v Speaker 2>last for No, nothing's forever, period. But at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the day, you know, maybe if she wants to

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<v Speaker 2>get married ten years from now.

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<v Speaker 1>He seems to be pretty like firm with that. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>with not getting married, right, not getting married?

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<v Speaker 2>And honestly, I don't even know. People ask me all

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<v Speaker 2>the time if I would ever get married again. I said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>first I need to start dating. I mean, let's just

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<v Speaker 2>start there. But I don't know. I just think it's

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<v Speaker 2>a contract that can get real messy, right, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think I think once you've been married.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm positive. I'm not positive. But I would think that

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<v Speaker 1>if he was going to marry this this much younger woman,

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<v Speaker 1>he would be careful. I would think he would there

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<v Speaker 1>would be an ironclad But that's I.

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<v Speaker 2>Even go there, like, just don't get married. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>like the uncomfortable conversations, especially if he doesn't. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he seems to be in love with her.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know this woman, so this is all speculation. Dude,

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<v Speaker 1>If you're thirty three and you're dating Russell Crowe, like,

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<v Speaker 1>are you doing it just for the front of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Maybe most thirty three year old women

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<v Speaker 1>I know are there is some in the prime game

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<v Speaker 1>in sight, right, but they also want you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think at least the ones that I know, not necessarily everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>But now you're dating this older man and he's saying

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't want to get married ever, I have no

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<v Speaker 1>idea what is going on with this thirty three I'm

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<v Speaker 1>guessing very beautiful, smart, wonderful person. I don't know mom,

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<v Speaker 1>her mom a little worried.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, we also don't know. Maybe the mom

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<v Speaker 2>promotes it like we don't know. What do you think?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>But all I know is that that interview, that sit

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<v Speaker 2>down interview with Russell Crowe. Actually it was interesting because

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<v Speaker 2>I've been a fan of his and I've seen a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of his interviews. You could tell he's in a

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<v Speaker 2>place in his life where one he's grateful for all

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<v Speaker 2>the work that he's still able to get as a

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<v Speaker 2>sixty one year old actor who's done this for so

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<v Speaker 2>many years. He assumed that he was going to be

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<v Speaker 2>out of the business by now, and he said that

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<v Speaker 2>he's also it's great that he has boundaries now. As

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<v Speaker 2>far as not saying yes to everything. You know, you

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<v Speaker 2>can tell that his priorities have shifted, which I think

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<v Speaker 2>for me at least through that interview, he comes across

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<v Speaker 2>us a lot more happy, just happier and peaceful.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, do you think he's hot?

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<v Speaker 2>He was? Yeah, he was Gladiator and he was on

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<v Speaker 2>that Wait what was the movie with a two personality?

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<v Speaker 2>What was it?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god? No, the two persons you mean the one?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>No, he with the three personality. That's Paris.

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<v Speaker 2>Hilton is not an original life. I know, a beautiful mind,

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<v Speaker 2>a beautiful mind, beautiful mind.

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<v Speaker 1>He was brilliant in that he was hot there. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't think he was necessarily hot in that way. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>not like as that, but everybody has different taste for Gladiator.

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<v Speaker 2>Was it was not his character?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, three personalities?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Gladiator never said I never saw it, but he

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<v Speaker 2>seemed to be hot there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But anyway, listen, he is hot, and he's working it,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's dating a thirty three year old and he's

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<v Speaker 1>very honest, which I admire. So she's okay, I'm okay.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he says he likes to be called a

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<v Speaker 1>boyfriend and he was romantic and yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Tickles your pickle. Yeah you go, baby, you go.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. So here's one that I'm a little I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just I've been upset about it. I'm still upset. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't see to get past it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, I mean, come on, not repinely farness.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved her and Hugh Jackman together, I really really did.

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<v Speaker 1>And apparently she's shopping a bombshell tell all, but this

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<v Speaker 1>one really got to me. And I know we were

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<v Speaker 1>talking earlier a little bit about it, and there were

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<v Speaker 1>rumors that he was gay, but he seemed to adore her,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was bombed when they announced they're split. And

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm going to be really bummed. If she starts

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about him not being a good guy, I

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<v Speaker 1>all bets her off. I'm going to bed.

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<v Speaker 2>She seems to have some class, though.

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<v Speaker 1>I am just telling you right now that if Hugh

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<v Speaker 1>Jackman is not a good man and a kind man

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<v Speaker 1>and an honorable man, I don't want to hear it.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, we all have our skeletons.

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<v Speaker 1>No, not Hugh Jackman.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not a cartoon.

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<v Speaker 1>But Hugh Jackman. Please, I love him. I love him.

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<v Speaker 1>I love him. Listen, We're human, I know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that she probably felt betrayed. I know there

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<v Speaker 1>was the whole thing with Sudden Foster Broadway star, and

0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:13.240
<v Speaker 1>they got together seemed very quickly. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he was cheating with her. The whole thing bums

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<v Speaker 1>me out.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, it happens quite often, more than we know, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>and it is a shame because it just makes you

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<v Speaker 2>just have no hope you're a single woman.

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<v Speaker 1>Hugh Jackman's Yeah, it has nothing to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, I just hope that she just tells

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<v Speaker 2>her side of the story. And if you just stick

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<v Speaker 2>to the way you feel. My therapist always taught me this,

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<v Speaker 2>then you're good. You cleaned your side of the street. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just when you start to make accusations, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>assumptions or accuse people, it just never looks good or

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<v Speaker 2>sounds good.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you ever consider writing book?

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<v Speaker 2>I have? But not about my actor divorce? No, I

0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:56.199
<v Speaker 2>mean about your divorce. Never. No, why because it's something

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<v Speaker 2>I want to keep to myself. It's really none of

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<v Speaker 2>it's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I wish she wasn't writing.

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<v Speaker 2>A book, But maybe it's not about that. Maybe it's

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<v Speaker 2>about more about her perspective and just living under his

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<v Speaker 2>head like under him.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they called it a bombshell tell all.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they don't know that for sure. This is an assumption.

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<v Speaker 1>It's true.

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<v Speaker 2>And let me tell you, especially lately, you can't believe

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<v Speaker 2>everything you read.

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<v Speaker 1>A men's sister, And I know exactly what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you, Yeah, you really can with you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but would you write a tell all?

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<v Speaker 2>I just I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>When I write a tell all. Well, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I was divorced and angry about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Or like when you were divorced.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when I was separated, separated, when my friend's out

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<v Speaker 1>of divorced. So I'm glad I didn't write a tell

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<v Speaker 1>all at that point. No, But do you know why

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't though? So my husband, who was almost my

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<v Speaker 1>ex husband, he it was our separation was never a

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<v Speaker 1>bad he was a shitty guy or shitty to me,

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<v Speaker 1>or a bad father or a bad husband. We just

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<v Speaker 1>were disconnected. The last thing I would have wanted to do,

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<v Speaker 1>which is probably were able to get back together, is

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<v Speaker 1>hurt him. You know, that was always part of why

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<v Speaker 1>we couldn't get divorced. We were both like, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, it's not about about that, but I so

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<v Speaker 1>so about Jeff. And not only that, Jeff Bessler is

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<v Speaker 1>the straightest lay. There will be nothing interesting to write about.

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<v Speaker 1>So I can write a tell all though about my family,

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<v Speaker 1>or not my entire family, but things my youth, my past.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, as long as it's focused on you, then that's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's when you.

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<v Speaker 1>Want it to be like cathartic, not to hurt anyone.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's what I did with my book when

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<v Speaker 2>I I mean, I talked, well, it's the first time

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<v Speaker 2>I talked about being molested as a little girl. It

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<v Speaker 2>was very therapeutic. It was scary. But again, like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not talking about anything outside of me, right, Like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just talking about my experiences. And people can get offended

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<v Speaker 2>if she does that with this book that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>come out. But at the end of the day, again,

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<v Speaker 2>if you stick to your experience, you can't really be

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<v Speaker 2>upset about that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not even offended or even judgmental about it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just more disappointed I have this you know, I know

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<v Speaker 1>it's not perfect and we know no, but he is.

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<v Speaker 1>But I have loved him for so long anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you can love the imperfection too. Yeah, nope,

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<v Speaker 2>moving on, moving on. So Chris Martin and Sophie Turner. So,

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<v Speaker 2>Sophie Turner was married to a friend of mine, Joe Jonas.

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<v Speaker 2>I did show with him. See, Yeah, he's a great guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I never ran into him though when he married Sophie Turner.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know really what that relationship was like.

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<v Speaker 2>But Chris Martin and Sophie Turner are moving on together.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, Joe Jonas was not the one with type one diabetes.

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<v Speaker 2>That one. That's the other one. That's uh, yes, who's

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<v Speaker 2>married to Priyanka or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, And I was always keyed into that because of

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<v Speaker 1>my daughter loving type one. But anyway she does, she does. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, Hi, thank you, but we can talk. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>She's had since she was twelve. Wow. There are many, many,

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<v Speaker 1>many hard parts of it. But I appreciate that Nick

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<v Speaker 1>Jonas is he's a great advocate.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And also the idea that because a lot of people

0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:11.360
<v Speaker 1>confused type two with type one, and so that's hard,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when she was younger and she was people judging

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<v Speaker 1>what she was eating. It had nothing to do with

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<v Speaker 1>what she was eating. Right, so right or my style.

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<v Speaker 2>These boys, though, I have to say I've hung out

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<v Speaker 2>with them quite often, like back in our days, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when I especially when I was doing the show with Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're really good, solid guys, even the whole family is.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>They're from Wykoff, which is right like almost like a

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<v Speaker 1>neighboring town here.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh cool. I think the other brother lives there.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like a builder for a while. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I just love that they reunited and they were

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<v Speaker 2>on tour again. This is not what this is about.

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<v Speaker 1>But we can't have it.

0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:51.040
<v Speaker 2>But Chris Martin and so I mean, yes, what do

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<v Speaker 2>you think of that?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that I was so obsessed with Chris Martin

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<v Speaker 1>and Dakota Johnson. I know what happened, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but I find both of those two people so beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>and sexy.

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<v Speaker 2>She's so sexy to me, like I'm believing I'm I'm straight, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but like she's something very very mysterious about her.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, one hundred percent. Let the bangs like yours.

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<v Speaker 2>She's just gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 1>There's something so anyway, So I was a little thrown

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<v Speaker 1>that they broke up for some reason. I thought that

0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:26.040
<v Speaker 1>that was going to last. And I don't know in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of him and Sophie Turner, I mean, they had

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<v Speaker 1>the British thing in common, right, and apparently she had

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<v Speaker 1>had a crush on him for a while even when

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<v Speaker 1>she was introduced her right or did like a right

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<v Speaker 1>like a birthday, like a birthday, that's cameo, almost right, great, yep, yep.

0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:46.960
<v Speaker 1>So I mean there are two more beautiful people.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess nineteen year age difference between them. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I actually my partner, my dance competitive partner prior to

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<v Speaker 2>me moving to LA, before I did dancing, that was

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<v Speaker 2>the same age gap. I don't think it's a big

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm sure it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait how many how many years? Nineteen years? I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what. In this world, especially this world of celebrities,

0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:11.800
<v Speaker 1>it's you know, I'm used to it now.

0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:13.159
<v Speaker 2>Age is just a number.

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<v Speaker 1>Age is just a number. They both have kids.

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<v Speaker 2>She's a single mom.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, His kids are obviously older.

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<v Speaker 2>I just hope no one got hurt in the process,

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<v Speaker 2>you know too. I mean, like I think that they

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<v Speaker 2>were really sly though. The way that Chris and Dakota

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<v Speaker 2>broke up was so like under the radar I feel.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't know America race.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I feel like Chris Martin gets such like hot women.

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<v Speaker 2>He went from Gwyneth Paltrow musician. I mean he is

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<v Speaker 2>he could sing to me, and he's not my type.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't find him, not me either, basically, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>okay once he starts singing, I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, have you been to his concert? It was

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<v Speaker 2>the best concert ever?

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<v Speaker 1>Really?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, made him even hotter.

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<v Speaker 1>Him and Jennifer Lawrence were even right, remember him and

0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:10.400
<v Speaker 1>Jennifer Lawrence that happened hot second. Yeah, he does very well.

0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:12.159
<v Speaker 1>He does pretty well for himself.

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<v Speaker 2>He just needs to sing that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't find him. I mean he's not my

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<v Speaker 1>type for sure, but you know, once he starts singing,

0:19:19.680 --> 0:19:20.919
<v Speaker 1>all bets are off. I mean that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. It's the same thing with dancing, Like if

0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:27.000
<v Speaker 2>I see a really good dancer who's like super masculine

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<v Speaker 2>and just like confident, which is hard to find, you know,

0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:32.879
<v Speaker 2>because look, it is what it is, especially in the

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<v Speaker 2>ball room industry. You know, it's interesting. I when I

0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:38.440
<v Speaker 2>was a competitor, I was had the hots for everybody

0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:41.359
<v Speaker 2>that could dance, like the top set finalists. I was like, Oh, yeah,

0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:43.000
<v Speaker 2>you're hot. You're hot, you're gay, it doesn't matter.

0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:46.040
<v Speaker 1>You're hot. You're hot. Like yeah, wait, so can you

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<v Speaker 1>tell me you like, who of all your partners or

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<v Speaker 1>even contestants, can you say about what?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm talking about my my competitive life, which is

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<v Speaker 2>a life. Talking about your dancing on the stars, No, no,

0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:00.920
<v Speaker 2>they're not stars. If I have to actually teach you

0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:02.960
<v Speaker 2>how to dance, No, you're not hot.

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<v Speaker 1>Any of the other one. Okay, sorry, I'm just digging.

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<v Speaker 2>Okays weekly, Yes, exactly right.

0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Talk about Britney Snow, let's.

0:20:10.400 --> 0:20:12.919
<v Speaker 2>Talk about her. Did you watch that Netflix series that

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<v Speaker 2>she was just a part of.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but what was it called?

0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:15.560
<v Speaker 3>Again?

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<v Speaker 1>I did, don't know, but it was freaking made wise

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<v Speaker 1>hunting Wise. And it's funny because I so and I

0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:28.119
<v Speaker 1>knew I knew her because she's another beauty. But I

0:20:28.160 --> 0:20:31.879
<v Speaker 1>loved her in Pitch Perfect and there are certain scenes

0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:33.439
<v Speaker 1>with her that I just will never forget, like the

0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:38.640
<v Speaker 1>one where she opens the curtain on Anna Kendrick when

0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:41.320
<v Speaker 1>she's singing and she's like, it's all excited. And she

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<v Speaker 1>was in Hairspray too, I mean she's but yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm watching Hunting wives, and it took me a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>even though I.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, you know, you know her mm hmm, yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely back in my clubbing days. I think she

0:20:52.920 --> 0:20:55.199
<v Speaker 2>was dating one of my friends who went out a

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<v Speaker 2>lot as well, and we like we just you know,

0:20:57.600 --> 0:21:01.080
<v Speaker 2>cross paths. And she seems really sweet and humble and

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<v Speaker 2>has stayed that way.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like, yep, yeah, she had a hard time

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<v Speaker 1>when she split from I was right standalone.

0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:11.359
<v Speaker 2>When you go through any type of heartbreak or split,

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<v Speaker 2>Like for me, at least, i'm I don't eat either,

0:21:13.760 --> 0:21:16.480
<v Speaker 2>Like that's my way of handling the stress. I think

0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:19.480
<v Speaker 2>it's different for people, certain people, right, some people like

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<v Speaker 2>to stress eat and I just food is the last

0:21:22.840 --> 0:21:26.160
<v Speaker 2>thing I ever want when I'm going through something so painful.

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<v Speaker 1>I never thought I would get to a place in

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<v Speaker 1>my life where that I I like, that happened to

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<v Speaker 1>me where I would actually lose my appetite because I

0:21:34.480 --> 0:21:37.879
<v Speaker 1>was I was riddled with eating disorders, you know, growing

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<v Speaker 1>up and into my twenties. But now I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if it's since my kid's been born, or when I

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<v Speaker 1>get anxious, I can't eat and I get this like

0:21:47.480 --> 0:21:49.240
<v Speaker 1>feeling that wells up in me and I just the

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<v Speaker 1>last thing I could do was like ingest shoe. Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>But it wasn't like that when I was younger. Usually

0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:56.800
<v Speaker 1>when I was younger, I was driven to eat.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>But as I've gotten older, I definitely when I get

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<v Speaker 1>nervous and anxious, I just basically usually I just curl

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<v Speaker 1>up in my bed in a very tight ball and.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah and hope and hope it was a bad dream.

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<v Speaker 2>What I love about this article, though, is that she's

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<v Speaker 2>really promoting the fact that she was really loving her

0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:17.720
<v Speaker 2>little girl inside of her and the way that she

0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:23.320
<v Speaker 2>was showing compassion and the self talk. I definitely can

0:22:23.400 --> 0:22:26.240
<v Speaker 2>take a page out of her book, because I think

0:22:26.280 --> 0:22:29.240
<v Speaker 2>that really is so important. It's more important than we think,

0:22:29.320 --> 0:22:31.440
<v Speaker 2>Like we all have that little person inside of us

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<v Speaker 2>that was not either properly raised or that needs that

0:22:35.720 --> 0:22:38.800
<v Speaker 2>mothering that maybe did they didn't get. And I think

0:22:38.840 --> 0:22:42.080
<v Speaker 2>it's so easy for me, at least to the negative

0:22:42.080 --> 0:22:45.080
<v Speaker 2>self talk really gets loud, especially because you know, I

0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:47.919
<v Speaker 2>live a welle and sometimes you know it's just you

0:22:47.960 --> 0:22:50.359
<v Speaker 2>don't you're not really aware of it unless you're a

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<v Speaker 2>freaking you know monk, But like you know, I know,

0:22:54.200 --> 0:22:55.280
<v Speaker 2>I have thoughts in my head.

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<v Speaker 1>I have I have become with therapy, many many, many

0:22:58.200 --> 0:23:00.439
<v Speaker 1>years of therapy because my therapist also says that I

0:23:00.480 --> 0:23:02.840
<v Speaker 1>have to like big girl Jennifer has to embrace a

0:23:02.840 --> 0:23:05.399
<v Speaker 1>little girl Jennifer if you guys, by the way, whoever's listening,

0:23:05.600 --> 0:23:08.840
<v Speaker 1>So she talked, so Brittany would say to herself, okay, baby,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm just gonna read it straight from this article.

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<v Speaker 1>A kay, baby girl, do you want a bagel? Let's

0:23:13.359 --> 0:23:15.480
<v Speaker 1>get you a bagel. We're gonna toast it. We're gonna

0:23:15.520 --> 0:23:18.760
<v Speaker 1>put some cream cheese on it, said all you can eat. Okay,

0:23:19.000 --> 0:23:19.920
<v Speaker 1>that's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is because of her split from her ex.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but I know that a lot of times my

0:23:25.920 --> 0:23:29.200
<v Speaker 1>own therapist will say when I get upset, like almost

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<v Speaker 1>like how to almost like embrace myself. You know what

0:23:32.640 --> 0:23:34.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, like, put my arms and talk to myself,

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<v Speaker 1>is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>And remind myself that I'm an adult, right and what's

0:23:38.640 --> 0:23:43.680
<v Speaker 1>happening inside me is not feeling very adult or feels

0:23:43.680 --> 0:23:46.679
<v Speaker 1>like a scared little girl triggered. Yes, yes, when you

0:23:46.720 --> 0:23:49.520
<v Speaker 1>get triggered like that, and yeah, I think that's really

0:23:49.520 --> 0:23:51.800
<v Speaker 1>cool and really cool to share because I don't hear

0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:54.600
<v Speaker 1>people share that often, and it reminded me of what

0:23:54.640 --> 0:23:56.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm often told to do in therapy.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I don't think a lot of people do this,

0:23:58.560 --> 0:24:00.280
<v Speaker 2>Like I think that you have to be here very

0:24:00.359 --> 0:24:05.080
<v Speaker 2>intentional and very self aware to even catch yourself and

0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:07.200
<v Speaker 2>the self talk to even know if you're doing if

0:24:07.200 --> 0:24:10.320
<v Speaker 2>you're saying negative things to yourself or not. Like to

0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:14.000
<v Speaker 2>even know that is pretty spectacular.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, I agree. I agree. I'm happy here because I

0:24:18.000 --> 0:24:19.280
<v Speaker 1>love Yeah, I do too.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the message.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I do too. No, I'm telling you that's

0:24:22.960 --> 0:24:25.159
<v Speaker 1>like anybody listening will spend a lot of money on

0:24:25.240 --> 0:24:26.040
<v Speaker 1>therapy to learn that.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, you and me both, I'm going to do

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<v Speaker 2>it for the rest of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, and the breed and also to breed to

0:24:32.680 --> 0:24:35.080
<v Speaker 1>breathe to remind myself right, Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Breath is so important. Like I only know that through

0:24:37.200 --> 0:24:40.119
<v Speaker 2>because of dancing, But like if I wasn't dancing, I

0:24:40.119 --> 0:24:43.520
<v Speaker 2>don't think I'd have any sense of any body awareness. Breath.

0:24:43.920 --> 0:24:47.240
<v Speaker 2>How breath can literally change the way you feel and.

0:24:47.440 --> 0:24:50.919
<v Speaker 1>A second, your autonomic nervous system if you.

0:24:50.680 --> 0:24:54.480
<v Speaker 2>Everything, Oh yeah, it can change. It can from fear

0:24:54.640 --> 0:24:57.960
<v Speaker 2>to like just calmness in a matter of seconds if

0:24:57.960 --> 0:25:01.080
<v Speaker 2>you turn into your breath. But obviously there's certain techniques.

0:25:01.119 --> 0:25:05.679
<v Speaker 2>Do you listen to doctor Huberman his podcast? Oh fascinating.

0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:09.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm just so fascinated by just just how our brain works. Right,

0:25:09.920 --> 0:25:13.280
<v Speaker 2>and he's an I will I'll send you his podcast.

0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:19.320
<v Speaker 2>It's fascinating. Okay, good on you, Britney Snell. Congrats. I'm

0:25:19.320 --> 0:25:21.200
<v Speaker 2>gonna definitely try that. Hopefully it works.

0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, do.

0:25:23.920 --> 0:25:26.960
<v Speaker 2>You want to talk about Tory spelling? This is yeah

0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:27.640
<v Speaker 2>so sad.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, listen, that's just been ugly for so long.

0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:35.000
<v Speaker 1>I feel like, you know, core Tori, Yeah, you know,

0:25:35.040 --> 0:25:36.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't always mean by the way, I don't know

0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:39.480
<v Speaker 1>if it sounds like does he think it sounds like

0:25:39.480 --> 0:25:44.080
<v Speaker 1>we're always sort of more sympathetic to the woman, and

0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:46.159
<v Speaker 1>maybe when we were women. I think that would be

0:25:46.160 --> 0:25:47.000
<v Speaker 1>our inclination.

0:25:47.320 --> 0:25:49.400
<v Speaker 2>I think in this world we need it now more

0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:52.200
<v Speaker 2>than ever, because I'm pretty sure women are attacking women.

0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:54.359
<v Speaker 2>It's pretty it's happening often.

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<v Speaker 1>What have you watched Real Housewives on New Jersey, Cholbern.

0:25:57.600 --> 0:26:01.120
<v Speaker 2>No, I've just watched my social media, my social media accounts.

0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:05.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean they're just borderline like it's so toxic and

0:26:05.320 --> 0:26:09.199
<v Speaker 2>I cannot avoid it obviously, right, Yeah, yeah, I do

0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:12.600
<v Speaker 2>want coming at me all women, it's all women? Is

0:26:12.640 --> 0:26:14.280
<v Speaker 2>it really all women?

0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:15.680
<v Speaker 1>So depressing?

0:26:16.840 --> 0:26:19.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean it just shows you that so this whole time,

0:26:19.600 --> 0:26:22.040
<v Speaker 2>then when you're saying women support women, we're all full

0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:25.160
<v Speaker 2>of dead because it's like I've noticed a pattern too.

0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:28.280
<v Speaker 2>It's like when you look good, when you feel good,

0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:31.960
<v Speaker 2>when you just really do like feel like yourself, that's

0:26:31.960 --> 0:26:34.000
<v Speaker 2>when people try and tear you down. And then it's

0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:37.199
<v Speaker 2>when you are the opposite or you're struggling and they

0:26:37.240 --> 0:26:39.159
<v Speaker 2>see that, then they're there for you.

0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:42.320
<v Speaker 1>It's interesting and I think it's all about feeling less than,

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:43.760
<v Speaker 1>not enough.

0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:45.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well when I was a little girl, is what

0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:47.439
<v Speaker 2>I was going to say that that is the reason,

0:26:47.480 --> 0:26:50.280
<v Speaker 2>because I didn't feel supported and loved enough, I think

0:26:50.560 --> 0:26:53.639
<v Speaker 2>as who I was. That's why I found my identity

0:26:53.800 --> 0:26:57.159
<v Speaker 2>outside of myself. And that's now what I'm dealing with today.

0:26:57.240 --> 0:27:00.679
<v Speaker 2>It's like I am enough without whatever it is that

0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:03.119
<v Speaker 2>I think I was, because that has nothing to do

0:27:03.200 --> 0:27:05.800
<v Speaker 2>with the person that I am. Right, I am enough

0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:09.480
<v Speaker 2>regardless of what I'm doing as far as my job

0:27:09.560 --> 0:27:12.239
<v Speaker 2>goes or my or my love life or whatever it is,

0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:13.320
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't matter.

0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:18.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, my therapist and this is something that has

0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:20.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why. Some certain things that you learn

0:27:20.640 --> 0:27:24.320
<v Speaker 1>in therapy, right, they are they stick and they help

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:27.119
<v Speaker 1>and they help and they help and they help. So

0:27:27.200 --> 0:27:29.159
<v Speaker 1>she one day she just held up this pencil and

0:27:29.320 --> 0:27:34.080
<v Speaker 1>she said to me that, so life is not I

0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:37.360
<v Speaker 1>don't know about life, but let's say even there's this feeling,

0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:40.639
<v Speaker 1>especially with fame, right that you're either at the top,

0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:42.960
<v Speaker 1>and if you're at the top, you're always worried about

0:27:42.960 --> 0:27:46.119
<v Speaker 1>the fall. Right, you're at the top, and the energy

0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:49.680
<v Speaker 1>is about your energy becomes about that. You know, when

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:53.080
<v Speaker 1>you're not or you're at the bottom, you feel or

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:55.080
<v Speaker 1>you feel like you're at the bottom. Right, But the

0:27:55.080 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 1>the ideal place to be is over here outside of

0:27:59.800 --> 0:28:03.520
<v Speaker 1>that and in dignity, right, in dignity and peace, knowing

0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:06.880
<v Speaker 1>that and gratitude and gratitude, knowing that no matter what,

0:28:07.080 --> 0:28:10.840
<v Speaker 1>you're just as special as you're just as special and

0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 1>no more special than the person next to you. We

0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:17.800
<v Speaker 1>all hate polls, yes, and we are all there's without

0:28:17.800 --> 0:28:20.600
<v Speaker 1>doing anything, we are we are one.

0:28:20.720 --> 0:28:25.240
<v Speaker 2>I know that sounds ye, so cheesy, but seriously, we are.

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:26.720
<v Speaker 1>I agree, I agree, And.

0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:29.440
<v Speaker 2>It's society that puts you on a pedestal and then

0:28:29.480 --> 0:28:31.560
<v Speaker 2>you either believe it and you go a little.

0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Deluttle the trick. That's the trick when you get any

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:37.120
<v Speaker 1>kind I think of fame or even success in life,

0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:40.120
<v Speaker 1>to not feed into that, right, it's so hard that

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:44.600
<v Speaker 1>I feel like, yeah, but awareness, awareness, that's why it's

0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:48.080
<v Speaker 1>better to be famous when you're older. I had the

0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:50.080
<v Speaker 1>whole time as soon as I started house I thank

0:28:50.120 --> 0:28:52.160
<v Speaker 1>god it was in therapy for you know, twenty years

0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:54.960
<v Speaker 1>before and continued it. But that was a big part

0:28:55.040 --> 0:28:57.240
<v Speaker 1>of it for me once I got on the show.

0:28:57.280 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 1>And I don't have a kind of fame obviously that

0:28:59.040 --> 0:28:59.760
<v Speaker 1>you have or whatever.

0:29:00.200 --> 0:29:02.120
<v Speaker 2>You can't. I mean, you don't need to measure it.

0:29:02.000 --> 0:29:04.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, even a little bit of it is do things

0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:05.480
<v Speaker 1>to your head.

0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:09.080
<v Speaker 2>It's social media. Everyone goes through it too, everyone.

0:29:08.720 --> 0:29:11.120
<v Speaker 1>Talking about how it doesn't matter how everyone sees me.

0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:13.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm not at the top and I'm not at the bottom.

0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:17.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm out, I'm not even I'm like away from that line.

0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Try to be you know, living in dignity blah blah blah,

0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 1>and not no one's better than me, and I'm not

0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:23.120
<v Speaker 1>better than anyone.

0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:26.200
<v Speaker 2>Correct, And the noise does get loud. Yeah, So I

0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:28.560
<v Speaker 2>mean I wonder how Tory feels though, because Toy has

0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:32.240
<v Speaker 2>been like she's been raised in this type of environment

0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 2>like she, I would assume she only knows that life

0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:36.920
<v Speaker 2>of celebrity, right.

0:29:37.280 --> 0:29:40.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, listen, I think that even from her beginning,

0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:42.480
<v Speaker 1>right with nine to two and zero, everyone assumed it

0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:44.640
<v Speaker 1>assumed that she was it was all about being an

0:29:44.640 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 1>EPO baby. And yeah, and she came from this royal

0:29:48.760 --> 0:29:52.280
<v Speaker 1>family in Hollywood. Talk about getting beat up online and

0:29:52.320 --> 0:29:56.080
<v Speaker 1>this is you know, going back years fully, Yeah, well

0:29:56.120 --> 0:29:59.479
<v Speaker 1>back back in the day, because what's unless I'm screwing

0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:01.840
<v Speaker 1>this up? But he was married when they got together.

0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:04.200
<v Speaker 1>I think I have no idea what I have to ask?

0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Yesther says yes, and she got a lot of shit

0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:07.640
<v Speaker 1>about it.

0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:09.800
<v Speaker 2>So she was the other woman.

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:13.600
<v Speaker 1>She was the other woman, I got it. And they

0:30:13.600 --> 0:30:15.840
<v Speaker 1>were madly, madly, madly in love.

0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:17.680
<v Speaker 2>And he wasn't already separated or anything.

0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 1>No, I don't think so. I mean it happened so

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:23.440
<v Speaker 1>famous too, who was it?

0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:25.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, oh, they met on a movie.

0:30:25.400 --> 0:30:28.680
<v Speaker 1>So she had to endure that write Everyone's judgment Dean

0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:35.760
<v Speaker 1>oh McDermott. Hello, Okay, So yeah, they had to deal

0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:37.480
<v Speaker 1>with a lot of that, and I was rooting for

0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:41.320
<v Speaker 1>them today. I got a lot of kids, tons tons

0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:41.760
<v Speaker 1>of kids.

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:44.720
<v Speaker 2>I did run into her, and when I had my

0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:47.440
<v Speaker 2>other podcast with iHeart and I was in NAPA and

0:30:47.480 --> 0:30:49.640
<v Speaker 2>she was there, we didn't get to talk much. I mean,

0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:51.479
<v Speaker 2>she also did Dancing with the Stars. I was so

0:30:51.520 --> 0:30:53.680
<v Speaker 2>proud of her for doing Dancing with the Stars because

0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:57.040
<v Speaker 2>she's been asked, I would say every single season and

0:30:57.120 --> 0:30:59.080
<v Speaker 2>she said, and I would try and convince her, like

0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:02.719
<v Speaker 2>just like nicely convincerr obviously, you know, you still need

0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:05.320
<v Speaker 2>to tell these people the truth of what the actual

0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:07.800
<v Speaker 2>thing is, what they're going to be stepping into. But

0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:10.160
<v Speaker 2>overall it was such a great experience. She had one

0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:12.760
<v Speaker 2>of the best partners, Pasha. I'm just happy she did

0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:16.400
<v Speaker 2>it because it's very much also an individual like achievement

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:19.360
<v Speaker 2>as these celebrities come on because it is hard, right

0:31:19.400 --> 0:31:21.080
<v Speaker 2>and if you can get through it, no matter how

0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:22.920
<v Speaker 2>long you last, you feel so proud of yourself.

0:31:23.040 --> 0:31:24.760
<v Speaker 1>Is that what you tell people before they do it, Like,

0:31:24.760 --> 0:31:26.320
<v Speaker 1>what was your warning to her if.

0:31:26.160 --> 0:31:28.960
<v Speaker 2>They ask questions like, is it seven days a week? Yes,

0:31:29.120 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 2>it is seven days a week.

0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:31.600
<v Speaker 1>Right, but it's also for hours.

0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:33.400
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't have to be seven days a week. But

0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:36.040
<v Speaker 2>it's set your own risk because you're the one dancing, right, So.

0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:38.720
<v Speaker 1>I always wonder, like how when it starts?

0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:40.920
<v Speaker 2>It's not twenty four hours? Don't it's not big brother

0:31:41.280 --> 0:31:42.120
<v Speaker 2>right of course.

0:31:41.840 --> 0:31:44.800
<v Speaker 1>But I'm saying I know, but I'm saying, like people's

0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:48.080
<v Speaker 1>bodies that aren't in shape, right, and like, how do

0:31:48.120 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 1>you It must be so shocking.

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 2>To it's shocking to people whose bodies are in shape too,

0:31:54.680 --> 0:31:57.440
<v Speaker 2>because this is a way different way. You're not just it.

0:31:57.800 --> 0:32:00.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the way we move our bodies is not normal.

0:32:00.800 --> 0:32:03.640
<v Speaker 2>You're forcing your bodies to move ways that is not natural.

0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:07.120
<v Speaker 2>And the more awkward it feels, the better it looks

0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:07.880
<v Speaker 2>from the outside in.

0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 1>All Right, you and I can go off on like tangents,

0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:15.040
<v Speaker 1>go ahead, it's really fun. But okay, I'm trying to like,

0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:18.320
<v Speaker 1>what is this what is this podcast about? Oh, divorce? Divorce?

0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, there's so many different meanings of divorce,

0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:23.640
<v Speaker 2>but Tori spelling. Basically, she settles her divorce finally right

0:32:23.680 --> 0:32:27.240
<v Speaker 2>with Dean. She's requesting for spousal support two years after separating.

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:32.120
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so she she has requested spousal, spousal and

0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:37.680
<v Speaker 1>child support, and so I guess they got. They filed

0:32:37.680 --> 0:32:39.080
<v Speaker 1>for divorce they feel like pretty recently.

0:32:39.360 --> 0:32:40.760
<v Speaker 2>So it obviously didn't end well.

0:32:40.960 --> 0:32:43.040
<v Speaker 1>So the filing didn't indicate whether or not they had

0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:44.160
<v Speaker 1>a prenup in place.

0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:47.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so, which means most likely that that wasn't the case.

0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:50.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, Oh, well, more, I love her. I do

0:32:50.400 --> 0:32:52.760
<v Speaker 2>love Tori, so I'm just wishing her so much love.

0:32:52.920 --> 0:32:55.960
<v Speaker 1>I met her once at a an iHeart thing and

0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:58.760
<v Speaker 1>she was so so so sweet to me.

0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:01.920
<v Speaker 2>She is a sweet person, she really is, genuinely.

0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:12.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 2>Golden Bachelor, jeez, Louise, I've never seen one episode of

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:22.280
<v Speaker 2>The Bachelor, Bachelorette, Bachelor, Paradise, whatever the heck, I've never

0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:23.160
<v Speaker 2>not interested.

0:33:24.080 --> 0:33:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Well, I will tell you that I have many, many,

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 1>many I have seen many, many many, and the Golden Bachelor.

0:33:29.080 --> 0:33:31.120
<v Speaker 1>And I am friends with Teresa.

0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:34.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh so okay, yeah, just so you know, after reading

0:33:34.600 --> 0:33:37.760
<v Speaker 2>this whole long ass article, I'm also on Teresa's side.

0:33:37.840 --> 0:33:38.600
<v Speaker 2>Just FYI.

0:33:39.280 --> 0:33:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, I will tell you that, talk about a sweet,

0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:46.120
<v Speaker 1>kind human, he seems what a doll and I did

0:33:46.200 --> 0:33:48.560
<v Speaker 1>watch The Golden Bachelor and I interviewed a few of

0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:52.080
<v Speaker 1>those folks and she was just she's a special person.

0:33:52.520 --> 0:33:55.800
<v Speaker 2>Did you know Teresa prior to her being on the podcast?

0:33:56.080 --> 0:33:59.400
<v Speaker 1>No, I didn't, but we were actually all in Tahoe

0:33:59.400 --> 0:34:02.800
<v Speaker 1>together for yeah, and it was it was really great

0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:07.640
<v Speaker 1>and Leslie who was on Golden Bauchler two and that

0:34:07.760 --> 0:34:11.080
<v Speaker 1>she went really really far. And but anyway, so apparently,

0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:16.279
<v Speaker 1>according to Teresa, he said some whack a dutally dud

0:34:17.520 --> 0:34:18.920
<v Speaker 1>really kind of scary, right.

0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:21.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean red flag?

0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:24.320
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, red was dark with the red black. I

0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:26.719
<v Speaker 1>don't know. So apparently she went to his house and

0:34:26.760 --> 0:34:29.719
<v Speaker 1>they took a walk around. They called it pretty lake

0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:34.400
<v Speaker 1>and he she said they were coming to the end

0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:37.120
<v Speaker 1>of the lake and he goes, do you see that's

0:34:37.160 --> 0:34:40.399
<v Speaker 1>shit up there? Uh, that's where I'm going to hide

0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:43.160
<v Speaker 1>your body after I kill you and chalk.

0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:46.239
<v Speaker 2>Cut you up into pieces like that is crazy, And

0:34:46.280 --> 0:34:46.880
<v Speaker 2>she said.

0:34:46.640 --> 0:34:49.759
<v Speaker 1>She was laughing, her nervous laugh, but he was.

0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Not, Okay, that is crazy. I would have ran for

0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:53.360
<v Speaker 2>the hills.

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I don't know how in what context that was

0:34:57.480 --> 0:35:00.120
<v Speaker 1>you ever ask me. I didn't know about this. So

0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:03.840
<v Speaker 1>when I when Teresa and I became friends, I knew

0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:07.759
<v Speaker 1>that it was not good, but this just came out

0:35:08.320 --> 0:35:11.440
<v Speaker 1>so and she didn't mention it to me at all, right, creepy.

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:15.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so he seems to be a little bit of

0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:16.840
<v Speaker 2>an attention grabber.

0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:17.080
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:18.800
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I think he loved you.

0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:21.600
<v Speaker 2>I think he loved the attention a little bit. Now,

0:35:21.600 --> 0:35:24.640
<v Speaker 2>mind you, there's two sides to every story. Absolutely, but

0:35:25.680 --> 0:35:28.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know it was all a little I mean,

0:35:28.480 --> 0:35:29.840
<v Speaker 2>like I said, I never watched it, but yet I

0:35:29.840 --> 0:35:33.399
<v Speaker 2>felt emotionally connected when they said they were divorcing after

0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:34.960
<v Speaker 2>just like a couple of days of being married.

0:35:35.080 --> 0:35:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yes, Well, I think also, I guess this was reacting.

0:35:41.280 --> 0:35:44.279
<v Speaker 1>This just came out like yes, because of his book, right,

0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:49.719
<v Speaker 1>and so maybe she was reacting to that. I mean,

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:51.400
<v Speaker 1>she said, she goes, I don't think he would have

0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:54.480
<v Speaker 1>killed me. He says, I don't think that was true.

0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:59.120
<v Speaker 1>It just spoke to an underlying feeling about me, like

0:35:59.200 --> 0:36:00.759
<v Speaker 1>he wanted she felt like he just wanted to get

0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:01.239
<v Speaker 1>rid of her.

0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:05.040
<v Speaker 2>Right, that's so odd. Okay, So basically The Golden Bachelor

0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:08.480
<v Speaker 2>detailed his romance with his final Rose winner in his

0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:12.799
<v Speaker 2>memoir Golden Years. She's laying out her own perspective and

0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:16.560
<v Speaker 2>recently shared an unsettling memory with her former husband. Okay,

0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:21.160
<v Speaker 2>so yes, so this is why this is all happening. Okay,

0:36:21.200 --> 0:36:21.600
<v Speaker 2>got it.

0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 1>God, she's reacting to all of his claims.

0:36:24.360 --> 0:36:26.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, there was quite a few from what I read.

0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:36:27.719 --> 0:36:31.600
<v Speaker 2>Look, I there's been bachelor bachelorette contestants on Dancing with

0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:35.440
<v Speaker 2>the Stars, and I believe that. Look, it's not normal

0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:39.320
<v Speaker 2>the situation you're put in, right, Like everything moves so fast,

0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:41.640
<v Speaker 2>and then yeah, there is that moment of silent or

0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:45.200
<v Speaker 2>quiet time where it hasn't been announced who the winner is,

0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:47.080
<v Speaker 2>and then you have to do this like hide out.

0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:50.640
<v Speaker 2>Like it's just not a normal environment.

0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:54.360
<v Speaker 1>It seems like it would be romantic, but it's probably intense.

0:36:54.760 --> 0:36:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm sure, because like the camera is like some

0:36:57.120 --> 0:36:59.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, people don't know. Sometimes you perform in front

0:36:59.480 --> 0:37:02.480
<v Speaker 2>of the cameras, you don't know you're performing right, right,

0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:04.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, you're very aware of it, and then all

0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:07.120
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden's true, they're not there, and you're like, wait,

0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:09.640
<v Speaker 2>who is this person who's not always on?

0:37:10.160 --> 0:37:10.319
<v Speaker 1>Right?

0:37:10.480 --> 0:37:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Like I know I'm not always on in normal life.

0:37:14.200 --> 0:37:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Me neither, you know, it was nice about Golden because

0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:18.880
<v Speaker 1>you don't watch it, but as opposed to the others

0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:24.279
<v Speaker 1>the Bachelor, Beginning Bachelor, and Bachelorette, the Golden Bachelor's I

0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:28.760
<v Speaker 1>felt like it was a very inspiring show and not listen.

0:37:29.560 --> 0:37:31.800
<v Speaker 1>They even had like Bachelor's in Paradise, they had both

0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:35.439
<v Speaker 1>the golden and the younger ones, and the younger ones

0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 1>were almost condescending, like, oh, they're so cute, they're look

0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:43.400
<v Speaker 1>at them thing. But like when it was just the

0:37:43.440 --> 0:37:47.200
<v Speaker 1>Golden Bachelor, it was really nice and see how older

0:37:47.239 --> 0:37:51.160
<v Speaker 1>people also, how like the guys interacted with each other

0:37:51.719 --> 0:37:54.600
<v Speaker 1>like a gentleman. For the bachelorette was so great and

0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:56.960
<v Speaker 1>even and the women they were actually making friends and

0:37:57.040 --> 0:37:59.839
<v Speaker 1>all of that was very inspiring. But in the end

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:02.120
<v Speaker 1>it did not work out, and she actually said that

0:38:02.480 --> 0:38:03.760
<v Speaker 1>he wanted her to quit working.

0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:06.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, they said that they supposedly discussed this and she

0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:09.120
<v Speaker 2>was going she said that she was going to quit.

0:38:09.160 --> 0:38:12.040
<v Speaker 2>From his side of the story, right right, I don't

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:15.000
<v Speaker 2>think he should ever expect anybody to change their lives

0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:17.560
<v Speaker 2>for you, if you know what I mean, Like, you

0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:20.000
<v Speaker 2>can't change anybody right well.

0:38:19.760 --> 0:38:21.879
<v Speaker 1>Right, I mean, yeah, he's retired. I guess he wanted

0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:23.520
<v Speaker 1>her to hang out with him. I would never be

0:38:23.560 --> 0:38:27.120
<v Speaker 1>able to sleep for independence, and yes, exactly get.

0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:28.800
<v Speaker 2>Some insurance on that body of yours.

0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:31.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thank you. But you know, I don't, like I

0:38:31.280 --> 0:38:33.239
<v Speaker 1>said to you before, I'm not obviously I don't. I

0:38:33.280 --> 0:38:35.920
<v Speaker 1>wasn't there, even though I'm friends with Teresa and he

0:38:36.000 --> 0:38:39.200
<v Speaker 1>does a pod with Amy Robach and t J. Holmes

0:38:39.680 --> 0:38:42.560
<v Speaker 1>that you guys can listen to, so I would be

0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:45.000
<v Speaker 1>interested to hear in hearing his and no one does

0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:47.200
<v Speaker 1>a pod like those two, so I would be interested

0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:49.880
<v Speaker 1>in hearing you know what he had to say. So,

0:38:50.040 --> 0:38:53.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and it's I thought that because maybe of

0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:56.480
<v Speaker 1>their age, they would be able to keep it nice.

0:38:56.920 --> 0:38:59.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh well, well, I do believe though that maybe. Do

0:38:59.239 --> 0:39:00.680
<v Speaker 2>you think the network had anything to do with the

0:39:00.680 --> 0:39:02.839
<v Speaker 2>fact that they had to announce it publicly that they

0:39:02.880 --> 0:39:05.239
<v Speaker 2>were going to separate because it was so soon, right,

0:39:05.360 --> 0:39:06.680
<v Speaker 2>So I think it is whole thing.

0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I think, I think, Yes, I think they did.

0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:10.920
<v Speaker 1>I guess there's a I guess you sign a contract

0:39:10.960 --> 0:39:11.400
<v Speaker 1>of course.

0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:14.200
<v Speaker 2>And by the way, like the amount of just everything,

0:39:14.200 --> 0:39:16.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they even said this in the article. Someone

0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:18.480
<v Speaker 2>referred to the fact that they didn't want to back out.

0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:21.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean the production of it, the people pleasing, the

0:39:21.440 --> 0:39:24.000
<v Speaker 2>fact that they you know, all these people traveled to

0:39:24.040 --> 0:39:26.799
<v Speaker 2>be there at their wedding. It's like that was on

0:39:26.880 --> 0:39:30.160
<v Speaker 2>TV and not the way I get it world right. Yeah,

0:39:30.200 --> 0:39:32.839
<v Speaker 2>it's a lot, it is, And you're not thinking about

0:39:32.880 --> 0:39:34.839
<v Speaker 2>yourself though you should because this is your day. You're

0:39:34.840 --> 0:39:38.200
<v Speaker 2>thinking about crap. I have people traveling from across the

0:39:38.200 --> 0:39:40.640
<v Speaker 2>world to come here, Like you're like, but this is

0:39:40.680 --> 0:39:43.080
<v Speaker 2>the rest of my life. It makes no sense now,

0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:45.759
<v Speaker 2>right if you think about it in like right, But

0:39:45.880 --> 0:39:47.920
<v Speaker 2>then when you're in a dress already and it's like

0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:50.760
<v Speaker 2>count down till the freaking prince and princess gets married,

0:39:50.760 --> 0:39:52.720
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna do it. You're doing it with a smile

0:39:52.760 --> 0:39:53.240
<v Speaker 2>on your face.

0:39:54.040 --> 0:39:56.640
<v Speaker 1>Well, he's already found someone else. Apparently he's already engaged,

0:39:57.400 --> 0:40:00.120
<v Speaker 1>So you know, would you do it? Would you go on?

0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:00.719
<v Speaker 4>No?

0:40:00.800 --> 0:40:03.120
<v Speaker 1>I know you wouldn't. Of course you wouldn't the bachelor.

0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:06.480
<v Speaker 2>No, there was talk of this many eons ago. But

0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:09.480
<v Speaker 2>I would have after it back back then when I

0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:09.960
<v Speaker 2>was drinking.

0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:13.320
<v Speaker 1>Probably, well, if I was single, I think I would.

0:40:13.920 --> 0:40:16.760
<v Speaker 2>You would. Yeah, I could see you on it, really,

0:40:17.400 --> 0:40:19.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, what I can only assume this though, is

0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:22.440
<v Speaker 2>that I believe maybe was there a sense of like

0:40:22.680 --> 0:40:25.279
<v Speaker 2>just authenticity when you saw The Golden Bachelor, because they

0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:26.800
<v Speaker 2>weren't putting on a show.

0:40:27.040 --> 0:40:31.960
<v Speaker 1>Definitely from so during the Golden Bachelor, the women specifically felt,

0:40:32.000 --> 0:40:34.360
<v Speaker 1>they were not just felt because we I've actually interviewed

0:40:35.480 --> 0:40:38.239
<v Speaker 1>a few of them and they are authentic and on

0:40:38.280 --> 0:40:41.239
<v Speaker 1>the show. I what I saw on the show was

0:40:41.280 --> 0:40:43.600
<v Speaker 1>what I got, you know, when I was talking to

0:40:43.640 --> 0:40:47.239
<v Speaker 1>them on the pod and Esa and Leslie off the pod.

0:40:47.320 --> 0:40:50.279
<v Speaker 1>So yes. And in terms of the guys, you know

0:40:50.480 --> 0:40:54.000
<v Speaker 1>on the Bachelorette, they were adorable, they bonded and it.

0:40:53.880 --> 0:40:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Was a friendship special thrette right, yes.

0:40:56.000 --> 0:40:59.080
<v Speaker 1>Yes, well that was what was I think that show

0:40:59.200 --> 0:41:03.600
<v Speaker 1>so special? Yes, because you're mature enough that it's that

0:41:03.719 --> 0:41:05.440
<v Speaker 1>is important friendship, right.

0:41:05.480 --> 0:41:07.600
<v Speaker 2>But the Golden is specific because I don't know if

0:41:07.600 --> 0:41:09.040
<v Speaker 2>the other ones do that. Maybe they do.

0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:12.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I don't know about this season just not

0:41:12.280 --> 0:41:17.319
<v Speaker 1>so good. But anyways, my friend always a pleasure, and yeah,

0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:19.160
<v Speaker 1>it is such a pleasure. I love talking to you.

0:41:19.239 --> 0:41:20.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I can see you on that show.

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:22.680
<v Speaker 2>But you're married. We shouldn't even be talking about that.

0:41:23.080 --> 0:41:28.239
<v Speaker 1>Well no, just kidding, just kidding, next lifetime.

0:41:27.239 --> 0:41:29.600
<v Speaker 2>Don't manifest it unless you want to. I could help you.

0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:33.480
<v Speaker 1>Believe me, I ain't manifested nothing when it comes to my.

0:41:33.800 --> 0:41:36.680
<v Speaker 2>Technically, we just did, didn't we. We spoke it to exist.

0:41:36.760 --> 0:41:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Really say that. Don't get all nervous.

0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:40.799
<v Speaker 2>That is part of the manifested.

0:41:41.080 --> 0:41:42.680
<v Speaker 1>Really well, we have to talk about that.

0:41:43.040 --> 0:41:44.759
<v Speaker 2>Speak it into existence, girlfriends, and.

0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:48.200
<v Speaker 1>Not manifest while I'm speaking into into existence, never ever

0:41:48.280 --> 0:41:51.040
<v Speaker 1>to get separated or divorcekin And for you, my friend,

0:41:51.040 --> 0:41:53.680
<v Speaker 1>whatever it is that you want next, I want to.

0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:58.560
<v Speaker 2>Single forever, single forever. I love single life too much.

0:41:59.200 --> 0:42:02.080
<v Speaker 1>I love that you love it all right, guys, so listen.

0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:08.080
<v Speaker 1>Lots of headlines this week, crazy and so I mean,

0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:11.080
<v Speaker 1>I hope, we hope that you like gossiping with us,

0:42:12.000 --> 0:42:13.640
<v Speaker 1>just gossip, though I feel like we go deeper.

0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:15.360
<v Speaker 2>It's real, real, innocent.

0:42:15.960 --> 0:42:18.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I think it is too. We'll go with that.

0:42:19.360 --> 0:42:21.640
<v Speaker 2>Check out I do part two after dark for more

0:42:21.680 --> 0:42:23.000
<v Speaker 2>of the real gossip.

0:42:23.040 --> 0:42:27.799
<v Speaker 1>Just kidding, yeah right, I love that. So listen. There's

0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:29.440
<v Speaker 1>one thing for sure. If you're listening and going through

0:42:29.440 --> 0:42:32.640
<v Speaker 1>a divorce or heartbreak right now, you are not alone

0:42:33.080 --> 0:42:35.480
<v Speaker 1>and If you need help getting through your heartbreak, call us,

0:42:35.560 --> 0:42:38.440
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0:42:40.239 --> 0:42:43.920
<v Speaker 1>podcast I Do Part two, an iHeart podcast where falling

0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:47.439
<v Speaker 1>in love is the main objective. Love you, Cheryl let

0:42:48.400 --> 0:42:49.440
<v Speaker 1>we fell in love.

0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:51.840
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, exactly. That's all that matters.

0:42:52.080 --> 0:43:03.000
<v Speaker 1>That's all it matters. Bye, guys, thank you. Bye.