1 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: Hi, guys, welcome back to I Do Part two. It's 2 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: your celebrity mentors Cheryl Burke and Jen Bessler back with you, 3 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: and we have a lot to talk about. Last time 4 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: we did this, we had a lot to talk about. 5 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: I think this time we have maybe more right. It's 6 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: just like always something happening in the world of divorce 7 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: and breakups. 8 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 2: Always it's it never gets old, does it? 9 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it never gets old and always fun to talk about, 10 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:40,639 Speaker 1: especially with you. 11 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: Good to see you again, Good to see you always. 12 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: I hope to see you in person one day. 13 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: I know, right, I feel like we a little streams 14 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 1: that we haven't met in person. It feels like we. 15 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 2: Have I know. Should we talk about my partner? 16 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 3: Yes? 17 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: Please? 18 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: So I danced with Ryan Lockede many many decades ago. 19 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: It feels like though it wasn't It was probably just 20 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 2: a decade ago. He obviously has gone through a divorce, 21 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: not obviously, but for those that keep up with the Joneses, 22 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: that's what's been happening over in Lockedy world and has 23 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: now been a born again after a rocky year, which 24 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: is great, like more power to him. I just I 25 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 2: never saw signs of that when we were dancing together, 26 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: not like you know, by the way, people can totally 27 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 2: evolve and absolutely you know, turn to God when you've 28 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 2: hit rock bottom, it happens a lot. Well, he had 29 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 2: also just gotten out of rehab, yes, and that is 30 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 2: something I actually just found out recently. I had no 31 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 2: idea that he had such issues with substance abuse. Mind 32 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 2: you you know, when I danced with him, I was 33 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 2: not sober. So like we partied together a little bit, 34 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: like we would go out, but I would kind of 35 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 2: keep him on a tight leash because I'll never forget. 36 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: We went to go to we went to Vegas and 37 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: part of our package before you know, the stuff that 38 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: they air prior to our dance, we had to learn 39 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 2: from the Bellaggio show, oh from CIRCUSLA And so we 40 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 2: had to go to Vegas for a weekend and my 41 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 2: friends were there. Just it was a coincidence. We went 42 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 2: out and I was like Ryan at two am, I was. 43 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 4: Like, you better go back to your room. We've got 44 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 4: camera blocking tomorrow. I don't want to smell alcohol on you. 45 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 4: And supposedly for my friends, he pretended to go to 46 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 4: his room and then was out till seven in the morning. 47 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 4: I was so mad at him, but that was our relationship. 48 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 4: We were like brothers sister. 49 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 3: Wow. 50 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: Well, I mean listen, you can't say if he's if 51 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: he's found God, God bless him. I guess he exactly did, right, 52 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: I mean, he did a what is it called, uh 53 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: just got baptized baptized. See, I'm sorry jewish, he just 54 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: got back. But did he do it? Was it like 55 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: a whole thing. 56 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 2: With wa Yeah, with water, yes, definitely. I mean he's 57 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: a swimmer. Just kidding, kidding, okay, right. You know, he 58 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 2: said that he loved sharing his life with his fans followers, 59 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 2: but this divorced with Kayla, his ex wife, hasn't been 60 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 2: necessarily a smooth ride. I mean, what divorce is at 61 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 2: the end of the day. But they have issues, you know, 62 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 2: obviously with custody. She does mention I guess in court 63 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 2: that you know, he was suffering from substance abuse and 64 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 2: she didn't want him around the kids. I mean it 65 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 2: started to get I mean from the article that I read, 66 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 2: I guess she mentioned that one time he was sniffing 67 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 2: something in front of the kids and then was nervous 68 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 2: that he was going to drive the kids. But obviously 69 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 2: he denies that it's just a battle. I'm just grateful 70 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: I never had kids. 71 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, so I feel like specifically from men, but 72 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: there's a lot of line after divorce, reinvention, you know 73 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like I had a lot of sort 74 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: of I don't know this obviously the specifics here, but 75 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: a lot of trauma. I mean is well, you do know, 76 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: very traumatic, right they say it's like up there one 77 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: of the top three. Absolutely no, right, So I guess 78 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: some reach for alcohol and drugs. They want to reach, 79 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: want to and good for him, he's reaching for God. Yeah, 80 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: so right, So I don't know. I mean I also, well, 81 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. I also think that a lot of times. 82 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: I hope it's not performative. I hope he means it. 83 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 2: I wonder if he is dating somebody I believe, or 84 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: is he engaged. I don't think he's engaged. Now he's dating. 85 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: Somebody Molly Gilahan Gillahan. 86 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 2: I wonder if maybe she's Christian, you know, you never know. 87 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 2: I mean I hope that she's you know, whoever, It 88 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: doesn't matter if she's Christian or not. Honestly, if she's 89 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 2: a great influence, that's a good sign. I mean, she 90 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 2: also comes from. I think she has kids of her 91 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: own as well. Have you ever had a spiritual awakening 92 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,679 Speaker 2: after a breakup or a divorce? 93 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: Absolutely not my pattern. Let's see, well, because I've been 94 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: you know, I've been married a while. But my pattern 95 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: was always to throw myself into something to numbt and 96 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 1: I never was smart enough to Thank God, I was 97 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: more like you know other men who my father I 98 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: used to say, it is a disgusting thing, And he 99 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: said a lot of disgusting things, one of which was 100 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: the only way to get over one person is to 101 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: get under another. 102 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: Oh, I know, that's nasty. I mean my father was 103 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 2: quite nasty as well. Yeah, my father was. 104 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 105 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, are we sure? Are we not sisters? 106 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 3: Oh? 107 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: I wish? But listen, I mean I think I I 108 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: some way probably followed that advice, not quite as literally, 109 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: but I always threw myself into stuff. 110 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 2: More than it's an addiction, I think it's something as 111 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 2: society today because we celebrate the hustle, and I think 112 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: hustle just equals numbing because we're just constantly needing to 113 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 2: stay busy and sitting in stillness is terrifying for I 114 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 2: think a lot of people, but I for I mean 115 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 2: for me, I definitely went. I did in a way, 116 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 2: turned to transcendental meditation as soon as I split, like 117 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: I needed and mind you, I was already looking into 118 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: it prior. Obviously you've also been sober. 119 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: You've been sober for a long time. So I'm seven 120 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 1: years old, so that's a long time. I mean you've 121 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: assuming that that there's a big spiritual component. 122 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 2: To your God. Yeah, it's it's absolutely that. You know, 123 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: we hand you know, our lives to God and we 124 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 2: you know, we have a higher power whether you want 125 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 2: to call it God or not, but you know, there 126 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 2: is that as far as the program goes, you know. 127 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 2: But I felt like, especially during COVID, you know, I 128 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: really dove into like all of these online courses, mental 129 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 2: health courses. I signed up for so much. And I 130 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 2: think it was just at that time though I was 131 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 2: still doing Dancing with the Stars because the show still happened, 132 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 2: but like there was something that I just wanted more of, 133 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: and I think it was just spirituality. I never really 134 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 2: I was born, I was baptized Catholic, my mother's Catholic, 135 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 2: but I never really I didn't really want to sit 136 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,679 Speaker 2: up and stand up and stand up kidding. 137 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: Well, you don't like exercise, right, you don't like to Yeah. 138 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 2: No, I hate I hate it. I prefer just sitting 139 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 2: my ass down on chairs. But anyway, no, I can 140 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 2: just see it now. She hates Catholicism, like no, no, no, no, no, 141 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 2: not going there, folks. 142 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: This is a little bit I think. I mean, this 143 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: is we're getting off un attention. But I just during COVID, 144 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: I definitely was searching also, and a lot of Eckart toole. 145 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 2: God, he puts me to sleep though bad voice. 146 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: Oh his voice. I would take song walks and you know, 147 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: and maybe you know, after something like this, I could 148 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: like a divorce. That seems to be the healthiest way 149 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: to go, right, Yeah, for sure. 150 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 2: I mean I think it's all numbing at the end 151 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 2: of the day, right, We're all numbing. 152 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: Yes, okay. So apparently Russell Crowe is not interested in 153 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: getting married again, did you? Apparently he was on sixty 154 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: Minutes and he has his current girlfriend, Britney Theiro. I 155 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: don't know if I'm saying that correctly, And there are 156 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: rumors that they were getting engaged and he said no way, no, how. 157 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I watched the interview. It was yeah, he's definitely. 158 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 2: I mean he's sixty one, she's thirty three. Will it 159 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 2: last for No, nothing's forever, period. But at the end 160 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 2: of the day, you know, maybe if she wants to 161 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: get married ten years from now. 162 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: He seems to be pretty like firm with that. Oh yeah, 163 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: with not getting married, right, not getting married? 164 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 2: And honestly, I don't even know. People ask me all 165 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 2: the time if I would ever get married again. I said, well, 166 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 2: first I need to start dating. I mean, let's just 167 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 2: start there. But I don't know. I just think it's 168 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: a contract that can get real messy, right, Like I 169 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 2: don't think I think once you've been married. 170 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: I'm positive. I'm not positive. But I would think that 171 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: if he was going to marry this this much younger woman, 172 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: he would be careful. I would think he would there 173 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: would be an ironclad But that's I. 174 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 2: Even go there, like, just don't get married. It's just 175 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 2: like the uncomfortable conversations, especially if he doesn't. I mean, 176 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 2: he seems to be in love with her. 177 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: I don't know this woman, so this is all speculation. Dude, 178 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: If you're thirty three and you're dating Russell Crowe, like, 179 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: are you doing it just for the front of it. 180 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe most thirty three year old women 181 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: I know are there is some in the prime game 182 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: in sight, right, but they also want you know, I 183 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: think at least the ones that I know, not necessarily everyone. 184 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: But now you're dating this older man and he's saying 185 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to get married ever, I have no 186 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: idea what is going on with this thirty three I'm 187 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: guessing very beautiful, smart, wonderful person. I don't know mom, 188 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: her mom a little worried. 189 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we also don't know. Maybe the mom 190 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 2: promotes it like we don't know. What do you think? 191 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 3: Yes? 192 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 2: But all I know is that that interview, that sit 193 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 2: down interview with Russell Crowe. Actually it was interesting because 194 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:33,719 Speaker 2: I've been a fan of his and I've seen a 195 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 2: couple of his interviews. You could tell he's in a 196 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 2: place in his life where one he's grateful for all 197 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 2: the work that he's still able to get as a 198 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 2: sixty one year old actor who's done this for so 199 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 2: many years. He assumed that he was going to be 200 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 2: out of the business by now, and he said that 201 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 2: he's also it's great that he has boundaries now. As 202 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 2: far as not saying yes to everything. You know, you 203 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 2: can tell that his priorities have shifted, which I think 204 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: for me at least through that interview, he comes across 205 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 2: us a lot more happy, just happier and peaceful. 206 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: Really, do you think he's hot? 207 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 2: He was? Yeah, he was Gladiator and he was on 208 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 2: that Wait what was the movie with a two personality? 209 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 2: What was it? 210 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: Oh my god? No, the two persons you mean the one? 211 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? 212 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: No, he with the three personality. That's Paris. 213 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 2: Hilton is not an original life. I know, a beautiful mind, 214 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 2: a beautiful mind, beautiful mind. 215 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: He was brilliant in that he was hot there. I 216 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 1: didn't think he was necessarily hot in that way. Maybe 217 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: not like as that, but everybody has different taste for Gladiator. 218 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 2: Was it was not his character? 219 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: Okay, three personalities? 220 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, Gladiator never said I never saw it, but he 221 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 2: seemed to be hot there. 222 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 223 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, But anyway, listen, he is hot, and he's working it, 224 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: and he's dating a thirty three year old and he's 225 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: very honest, which I admire. So she's okay, I'm okay. 226 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: You know, he says he likes to be called a 227 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: boyfriend and he was romantic and yeah, okay. 228 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 2: Tickles your pickle. Yeah you go, baby, you go. 229 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: All right. So here's one that I'm a little I'm 230 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: just I've been upset about it. I'm still upset. I 231 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: can't see to get past it. 232 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 2: Yep, I mean, come on, not repinely farness. 233 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: I loved her and Hugh Jackman together, I really really did. 234 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: And apparently she's shopping a bombshell tell all, but this 235 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: one really got to me. And I know we were 236 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: talking earlier a little bit about it, and there were 237 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: rumors that he was gay, but he seemed to adore her, 238 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: and I was bombed when they announced they're split. And 239 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: now I'm going to be really bummed. If she starts 240 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: to talk about him not being a good guy, I 241 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: all bets her off. I'm going to bed. 242 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 2: She seems to have some class, though. 243 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 1: I am just telling you right now that if Hugh 244 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: Jackman is not a good man and a kind man 245 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: and an honorable man, I don't want to hear it. 246 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 2: Come on, we all have our skeletons. 247 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: No, not Hugh Jackman. 248 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 2: He's not a cartoon. 249 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: But Hugh Jackman. Please, I love him. I love him. 250 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: I love him. Listen, We're human, I know, I mean, 251 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: I think that she probably felt betrayed. I know there 252 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: was the whole thing with Sudden Foster Broadway star, and 253 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: they got together seemed very quickly. I don't know if 254 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: maybe he was cheating with her. The whole thing bums 255 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: me out. 256 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 2: Hey, it happens quite often, more than we know, I think, 257 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 2: and it is a shame because it just makes you 258 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 2: just have no hope you're a single woman. 259 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: Hugh Jackman's Yeah, it has nothing to do. 260 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 2: I mean, look, I just hope that she just tells 261 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 2: her side of the story. And if you just stick 262 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 2: to the way you feel. My therapist always taught me this, 263 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 2: then you're good. You cleaned your side of the street. Right. 264 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 2: It's just when you start to make accusations, and you know, 265 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 2: assumptions or accuse people, it just never looks good or 266 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 2: sounds good. 267 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: Would you ever consider writing book? 268 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 2: I have? But not about my actor divorce? No, I 269 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 2: mean about your divorce. Never. No, why because it's something 270 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 2: I want to keep to myself. It's really none of 271 00:12:58,040 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 2: it's what I'm saying. 272 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I wish she wasn't writing. 273 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 2: A book, But maybe it's not about that. Maybe it's 274 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 2: about more about her perspective and just living under his 275 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 2: head like under him. 276 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: Well, they called it a bombshell tell all. 277 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 2: Well, they don't know that for sure. This is an assumption. 278 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 1: It's true. 279 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 2: And let me tell you, especially lately, you can't believe 280 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 2: everything you read. 281 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: A men's sister, And I know exactly what you're talking about. 282 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 1: I'm with you, Yeah, you really can with you. Yeah, 283 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: but would you write a tell all? 284 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 2: I just I don't know. 285 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: When I write a tell all. Well, first of all, 286 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if I was divorced and angry about it. 287 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 2: Or like when you were divorced. 288 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, when I was separated, separated, when my friend's out 289 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: of divorced. So I'm glad I didn't write a tell 290 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: all at that point. No, But do you know why 291 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: I wouldn't though? So my husband, who was almost my 292 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: ex husband, he it was our separation was never a 293 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 1: bad he was a shitty guy or shitty to me, 294 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: or a bad father or a bad husband. We just 295 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 1: were disconnected. The last thing I would have wanted to do, 296 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: which is probably were able to get back together, is 297 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: hurt him. You know, that was always part of why 298 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 1: we couldn't get divorced. We were both like, yeah, I 299 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: don't know, it's not about about that, but I so 300 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: so about Jeff. And not only that, Jeff Bessler is 301 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 1: the straightest lay. There will be nothing interesting to write about. 302 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: So I can write a tell all though about my family, 303 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: or not my entire family, but things my youth, my past. 304 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 2: Yes, as long as it's focused on you, then that's fine. 305 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 2: I think it's when you. 306 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: Want it to be like cathartic, not to hurt anyone. 307 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 2: I mean, that's what I did with my book when 308 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 2: I I mean, I talked, well, it's the first time 309 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 2: I talked about being molested as a little girl. It 310 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 2: was very therapeutic. It was scary. But again, like, I'm 311 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 2: not talking about anything outside of me, right, Like, I'm 312 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 2: just talking about my experiences. And people can get offended 313 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 2: if she does that with this book that's going to 314 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 2: come out. But at the end of the day, again, 315 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 2: if you stick to your experience, you can't really be 316 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 2: upset about that. 317 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: It's not even offended or even judgmental about it. I'm 318 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: just more disappointed I have this you know, I know 319 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: it's not perfect and we know no, but he is. 320 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: But I have loved him for so long anyway. 321 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 2: I mean, you can love the imperfection too. Yeah, nope, 322 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 2: moving on, moving on. So Chris Martin and Sophie Turner. So, 323 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 2: Sophie Turner was married to a friend of mine, Joe Jonas. 324 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 2: I did show with him. See, Yeah, he's a great guy. 325 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 2: I never ran into him though when he married Sophie Turner. 326 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 2: So I don't know really what that relationship was like. 327 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 2: But Chris Martin and Sophie Turner are moving on together. 328 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: Wait, Joe Jonas was not the one with type one diabetes. 329 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: That one. That's the other one. That's uh, yes, who's 330 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 2: married to Priyanka or something. 331 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: Yes, And I was always keyed into that because of 332 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: my daughter loving type one. But anyway she does, she does. Yeah, 333 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Hi, thank you, but we can talk. Thank you. 334 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: She's had since she was twelve. Wow. There are many, many, 335 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: many hard parts of it. But I appreciate that Nick 336 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: Jonas is he's a great advocate. 337 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 338 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: And also the idea that because a lot of people 339 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: confused type two with type one, and so that's hard, 340 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: especially when she was younger and she was people judging 341 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: what she was eating. It had nothing to do with 342 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: what she was eating. Right, so right or my style. 343 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 2: These boys, though, I have to say I've hung out 344 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 2: with them quite often, like back in our days, you know, 345 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 2: when I especially when I was doing the show with Joe, 346 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 2: and they're really good, solid guys, even the whole family is. 347 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 2: You know. 348 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: They're from Wykoff, which is right like almost like a 349 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: neighboring town here. 350 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 2: Oh cool. I think the other brother lives there. 351 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: He's like a builder for a while. Yeah. 352 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. I just love that they reunited and they were 353 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 2: on tour again. This is not what this is about. 354 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: But we can't have it. 355 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 2: But Chris Martin and so I mean, yes, what do 356 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 2: you think of that? 357 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: I think that I was so obsessed with Chris Martin 358 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: and Dakota Johnson. I know what happened, I don't know, 359 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: but I find both of those two people so beautiful 360 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: and sexy. 361 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 2: She's so sexy to me, like I'm believing I'm I'm straight, okay, 362 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 2: but like she's something very very mysterious about her. 363 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. Let the bangs like yours. 364 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 2: She's just gorgeous. 365 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: There's something so anyway, So I was a little thrown 366 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: that they broke up for some reason. I thought that 367 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: that was going to last. And I don't know in 368 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: terms of him and Sophie Turner, I mean, they had 369 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: the British thing in common, right, and apparently she had 370 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: had a crush on him for a while even when 371 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: she was introduced her right or did like a right 372 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: like a birthday, like a birthday, that's cameo, almost right, great, yep, yep. 373 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: So I mean there are two more beautiful people. 374 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 2: I guess nineteen year age difference between them. I mean, 375 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 2: I actually my partner, my dance competitive partner prior to 376 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 2: me moving to LA, before I did dancing, that was 377 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: the same age gap. I don't think it's a big 378 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure it is. 379 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 1: Wait how many how many years? Nineteen years? I don't know, 380 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: you know what. In this world, especially this world of celebrities, 381 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: it's you know, I'm used to it now. 382 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 2: Age is just a number. 383 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: Age is just a number. They both have kids. 384 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 2: She's a single mom. 385 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: Right, His kids are obviously older. 386 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 2: I just hope no one got hurt in the process, 387 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 2: you know too. I mean, like I think that they 388 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 2: were really sly though. The way that Chris and Dakota 389 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 2: broke up was so like under the radar I feel. 390 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: Like I don't know America race. 391 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 2: No, I feel like Chris Martin gets such like hot women. 392 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 2: He went from Gwyneth Paltrow musician. I mean he is 393 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 2: he could sing to me, and he's not my type. 394 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: I don't find him, not me either, basically, but that's 395 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: okay once he starts singing, I do. 396 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 2: I mean, have you been to his concert? It was 397 00:18:58,680 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 2: the best concert ever? 398 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: Really? 399 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, made him even hotter. 400 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: Him and Jennifer Lawrence were even right, remember him and 401 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: Jennifer Lawrence that happened hot second. Yeah, he does very well. 402 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 1: He does pretty well for himself. 403 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 2: He just needs to sing that. 404 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 1: No, I don't find him. I mean he's not my 405 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: type for sure, but you know, once he starts singing, 406 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 1: all bets are off. I mean that's it. 407 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 2: You know. It's the same thing with dancing, Like if 408 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 2: I see a really good dancer who's like super masculine 409 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 2: and just like confident, which is hard to find, you know, 410 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 2: because look, it is what it is, especially in the 411 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 2: ball room industry. You know, it's interesting. I when I 412 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 2: was a competitor, I was had the hots for everybody 413 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 2: that could dance, like the top set finalists. I was like, Oh, yeah, 414 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 2: you're hot. You're hot, you're gay, it doesn't matter. 415 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: You're hot. You're hot. Like yeah, wait, so can you 416 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: tell me you like, who of all your partners or 417 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 1: even contestants, can you say about what? 418 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about my my competitive life, which is 419 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,959 Speaker 2: a life. Talking about your dancing on the stars, No, no, 420 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 2: they're not stars. If I have to actually teach you 421 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 2: how to dance, No, you're not hot. 422 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: Any of the other one. Okay, sorry, I'm just digging. 423 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 2: Okays weekly, Yes, exactly right. 424 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: Talk about Britney Snow, let's. 425 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 2: Talk about her. Did you watch that Netflix series that 426 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 2: she was just a part of. 427 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, but what was it called? 428 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 3: Again? 429 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: I did, don't know, but it was freaking made wise 430 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: hunting Wise. And it's funny because I so and I 431 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: knew I knew her because she's another beauty. But I 432 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: loved her in Pitch Perfect and there are certain scenes 433 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 1: with her that I just will never forget, like the 434 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 1: one where she opens the curtain on Anna Kendrick when 435 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: she's singing and she's like, it's all excited. And she 436 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: was in Hairspray too, I mean she's but yeah, so 437 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: I'm watching Hunting wives, and it took me a minute, 438 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: even though I. 439 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 2: Know, you know, you know her mm hmm, yeah, no, 440 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 2: I definitely back in my clubbing days. I think she 441 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 2: was dating one of my friends who went out a 442 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 2: lot as well, and we like we just you know, 443 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 2: cross paths. And she seems really sweet and humble and 444 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 2: has stayed that way. 445 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 1: It seems like, yep, yeah, she had a hard time 446 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 1: when she split from I was right standalone. 447 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 2: When you go through any type of heartbreak or split, 448 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 2: Like for me, at least, i'm I don't eat either, 449 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 2: Like that's my way of handling the stress. I think 450 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 2: it's different for people, certain people, right, some people like 451 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 2: to stress eat and I just food is the last 452 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 2: thing I ever want when I'm going through something so painful. 453 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: I never thought I would get to a place in 454 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: my life where that I I like, that happened to 455 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: me where I would actually lose my appetite because I 456 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: was I was riddled with eating disorders, you know, growing 457 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: up and into my twenties. But now I don't know 458 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: if it's since my kid's been born, or when I 459 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 1: get anxious, I can't eat and I get this like 460 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: feeling that wells up in me and I just the 461 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: last thing I could do was like ingest shoe. Yeah yeah, 462 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: But it wasn't like that when I was younger. Usually 463 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: when I was younger, I was driven to eat. 464 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 2: Oh interesting. 465 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: But as I've gotten older, I definitely when I get 466 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: nervous and anxious, I just basically usually I just curl 467 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: up in my bed in a very tight ball and. 468 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 2: Yeah and hope and hope it was a bad dream. 469 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 2: What I love about this article, though, is that she's 470 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 2: really promoting the fact that she was really loving her 471 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 2: little girl inside of her and the way that she 472 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 2: was showing compassion and the self talk. I definitely can 473 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 2: take a page out of her book, because I think 474 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 2: that really is so important. It's more important than we think, 475 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 2: Like we all have that little person inside of us 476 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 2: that was not either properly raised or that needs that 477 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 2: mothering that maybe did they didn't get. And I think 478 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 2: it's so easy for me, at least to the negative 479 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 2: self talk really gets loud, especially because you know, I 480 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 2: live a welle and sometimes you know it's just you 481 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 2: don't you're not really aware of it unless you're a 482 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 2: freaking you know monk, But like you know, I know, 483 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 2: I have thoughts in my head. 484 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: I have I have become with therapy, many many, many 485 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 1: years of therapy because my therapist also says that I 486 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: have to like big girl Jennifer has to embrace a 487 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: little girl Jennifer if you guys, by the way, whoever's listening, 488 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: So she talked, so Brittany would say to herself, okay, baby, 489 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 1: like I'm just gonna read it straight from this article. 490 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 1: A kay, baby girl, do you want a bagel? Let's 491 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: get you a bagel. We're gonna toast it. We're gonna 492 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: put some cream cheese on it, said all you can eat. Okay, 493 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: that's okay. 494 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 2: And that is because of her split from her ex. 495 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 1: Yes, but I know that a lot of times my 496 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: own therapist will say when I get upset, like almost 497 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: like how to almost like embrace myself. You know what 498 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,479 Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, put my arms and talk to myself, 499 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: is it? 500 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 2: Yes? 501 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 1: And remind myself that I'm an adult, right and what's 502 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: happening inside me is not feeling very adult or feels 503 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: like a scared little girl triggered. Yes, yes, when you 504 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: get triggered like that, and yeah, I think that's really 505 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: cool and really cool to share because I don't hear 506 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: people share that often, and it reminded me of what 507 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: I'm often told to do in therapy. 508 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 2: Right, I don't think a lot of people do this, 509 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 2: Like I think that you have to be here very 510 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 2: intentional and very self aware to even catch yourself and 511 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 2: the self talk to even know if you're doing if 512 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 2: you're saying negative things to yourself or not. Like to 513 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 2: even know that is pretty spectacular. 514 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 1: Actually, I agree. I agree. I'm happy here because I 515 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: love Yeah, I do too. 516 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 2: I love the message. 517 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: You know, I do too. No, I'm telling you that's 518 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 1: like anybody listening will spend a lot of money on 519 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: therapy to learn that. 520 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 2: So yeah, you and me both, I'm going to do 521 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 2: it for the rest of my life. 522 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and the breed and also to breed to 523 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: breathe to remind myself right, Oh yeah. 524 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 2: Breath is so important. Like I only know that through 525 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 2: because of dancing, But like if I wasn't dancing, I 526 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 2: don't think I'd have any sense of any body awareness. Breath. 527 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 2: How breath can literally change the way you feel and. 528 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 1: A second, your autonomic nervous system if you. 529 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 2: Everything, Oh yeah, it can change. It can from fear 530 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 2: to like just calmness in a matter of seconds if 531 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 2: you turn into your breath. But obviously there's certain techniques. 532 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 2: Do you listen to doctor Huberman his podcast? Oh fascinating. 533 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 2: I'm just so fascinated by just just how our brain works. Right, 534 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 2: and he's an I will I'll send you his podcast. 535 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 2: It's fascinating. Okay, good on you, Britney Snell. Congrats. I'm 536 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 2: gonna definitely try that. Hopefully it works. 537 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, do. 538 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 2: You want to talk about Tory spelling? This is yeah 539 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 2: so sad. 540 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, that's just been ugly for so long. 541 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, core Tori, Yeah, you know, 542 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: I don't always mean by the way, I don't know 543 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: if it sounds like does he think it sounds like 544 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: we're always sort of more sympathetic to the woman, and 545 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: maybe when we were women. I think that would be 546 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: our inclination. 547 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 2: I think in this world we need it now more 548 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 2: than ever, because I'm pretty sure women are attacking women. 549 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 2: It's pretty it's happening often. 550 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 1: What have you watched Real Housewives on New Jersey, Cholbern. 551 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 2: No, I've just watched my social media, my social media accounts. 552 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 2: I mean they're just borderline like it's so toxic and 553 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 2: I cannot avoid it obviously, right, Yeah, yeah, I do 554 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 2: want coming at me all women, it's all women? Is 555 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 2: it really all women? 556 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: So depressing? 557 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 2: I mean it just shows you that so this whole time, 558 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 2: then when you're saying women support women, we're all full 559 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 2: of dead because it's like I've noticed a pattern too. 560 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 2: It's like when you look good, when you feel good, 561 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 2: when you just really do like feel like yourself, that's 562 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 2: when people try and tear you down. And then it's 563 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 2: when you are the opposite or you're struggling and they 564 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 2: see that, then they're there for you. 565 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: It's interesting and I think it's all about feeling less than, 566 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: not enough. 567 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well when I was a little girl, is what 568 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 2: I was going to say that that is the reason, 569 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 2: because I didn't feel supported and loved enough, I think 570 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 2: as who I was. That's why I found my identity 571 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 2: outside of myself. And that's now what I'm dealing with today. 572 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 2: It's like I am enough without whatever it is that 573 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 2: I think I was, because that has nothing to do 574 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 2: with the person that I am. Right, I am enough 575 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 2: regardless of what I'm doing as far as my job 576 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,239 Speaker 2: goes or my or my love life or whatever it is, 577 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. 578 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: You know, my therapist and this is something that has 579 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 1: I don't know why. Some certain things that you learn 580 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: in therapy, right, they are they stick and they help 581 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: and they help and they help and they help. So 582 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 1: she one day she just held up this pencil and 583 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: she said to me that, so life is not I 584 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 1: don't know about life, but let's say even there's this feeling, 585 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 1: especially with fame, right that you're either at the top, 586 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: and if you're at the top, you're always worried about 587 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: the fall. Right, you're at the top, and the energy 588 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: is about your energy becomes about that. You know, when 589 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: you're not or you're at the bottom, you feel or 590 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: you feel like you're at the bottom. Right, But the 591 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: the ideal place to be is over here outside of 592 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: that and in dignity, right, in dignity and peace, knowing 593 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 1: that and gratitude and gratitude, knowing that no matter what, 594 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: you're just as special as you're just as special and 595 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: no more special than the person next to you. We 596 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: all hate polls, yes, and we are all there's without 597 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: doing anything, we are we are one. 598 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 2: I know that sounds ye, so cheesy, but seriously, we are. 599 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, And. 600 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 2: It's society that puts you on a pedestal and then 601 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 2: you either believe it and you go a little. 602 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: Deluttle the trick. That's the trick when you get any 603 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 1: kind I think of fame or even success in life, 604 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: to not feed into that, right, it's so hard that 605 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, but awareness, awareness, that's why it's 606 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: better to be famous when you're older. I had the 607 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: whole time as soon as I started house I thank 608 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: god it was in therapy for you know, twenty years 609 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: before and continued it. But that was a big part 610 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: of it for me once I got on the show. 611 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: And I don't have a kind of fame obviously that 612 00:28:59,040 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: you have or whatever. 613 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 2: You can't. I mean, you don't need to measure it. 614 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: Well, even a little bit of it is do things 615 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: to your head. 616 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 2: It's social media. Everyone goes through it too, everyone. 617 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: Talking about how it doesn't matter how everyone sees me. 618 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: I'm not at the top and I'm not at the bottom. 619 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: I'm out, I'm not even I'm like away from that line. 620 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: Try to be you know, living in dignity blah blah blah, 621 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: and not no one's better than me, and I'm not 622 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: better than anyone. 623 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 2: Correct, And the noise does get loud. Yeah, So I 624 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 2: mean I wonder how Tory feels though, because Toy has 625 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 2: been like she's been raised in this type of environment 626 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 2: like she, I would assume she only knows that life 627 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 2: of celebrity, right. 628 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, listen, I think that even from her beginning, 629 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: right with nine to two and zero, everyone assumed it 630 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: assumed that she was it was all about being an 631 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: EPO baby. And yeah, and she came from this royal 632 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: family in Hollywood. Talk about getting beat up online and 633 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: this is you know, going back years fully, Yeah, well 634 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,479 Speaker 1: back back in the day, because what's unless I'm screwing 635 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: this up? But he was married when they got together. 636 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: I think I have no idea what I have to ask? 637 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: Yesther says yes, and she got a lot of shit 638 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: about it. 639 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 2: So she was the other woman. 640 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: She was the other woman, I got it. And they 641 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: were madly, madly, madly in love. 642 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 2: And he wasn't already separated or anything. 643 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: No, I don't think so. I mean it happened so 644 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: famous too, who was it? 645 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 2: Well, oh, they met on a movie. 646 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: So she had to endure that write Everyone's judgment Dean 647 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: oh McDermott. Hello, Okay, So yeah, they had to deal 648 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: with a lot of that, and I was rooting for 649 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: them today. I got a lot of kids, tons tons 650 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: of kids. 651 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 2: I did run into her, and when I had my 652 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 2: other podcast with iHeart and I was in NAPA and 653 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 2: she was there, we didn't get to talk much. I mean, 654 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,479 Speaker 2: she also did Dancing with the Stars. I was so 655 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 2: proud of her for doing Dancing with the Stars because 656 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 2: she's been asked, I would say every single season and 657 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 2: she said, and I would try and convince her, like 658 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,719 Speaker 2: just like nicely convincerr obviously, you know, you still need 659 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 2: to tell these people the truth of what the actual 660 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 2: thing is, what they're going to be stepping into. But 661 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 2: overall it was such a great experience. She had one 662 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 2: of the best partners, Pasha. I'm just happy she did 663 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 2: it because it's very much also an individual like achievement 664 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 2: as these celebrities come on because it is hard, right 665 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 2: and if you can get through it, no matter how 666 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 2: long you last, you feel so proud of yourself. 667 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: Is that what you tell people before they do it, Like, 668 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: what was your warning to her if. 669 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 2: They ask questions like, is it seven days a week? Yes, 670 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 2: it is seven days a week. 671 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: Right, but it's also for hours. 672 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be seven days a week. But 673 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 2: it's set your own risk because you're the one dancing, right, So. 674 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: I always wonder, like how when it starts? 675 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 2: It's not twenty four hours? Don't it's not big brother 676 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 2: right of course. 677 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: But I'm saying I know, but I'm saying, like people's 678 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: bodies that aren't in shape, right, and like, how do 679 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: you It must be so shocking. 680 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 2: To it's shocking to people whose bodies are in shape too, 681 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 2: because this is a way different way. You're not just it. 682 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 2: I mean, the way we move our bodies is not normal. 683 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 2: You're forcing your bodies to move ways that is not natural. 684 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 2: And the more awkward it feels, the better it looks 685 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 2: from the outside in. 686 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: All Right, you and I can go off on like tangents, 687 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: go ahead, it's really fun. But okay, I'm trying to like, 688 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: what is this what is this podcast about? Oh, divorce? Divorce? 689 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 2: Well, you know, there's so many different meanings of divorce, 690 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 2: but Tori spelling. Basically, she settles her divorce finally right 691 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 2: with Dean. She's requesting for spousal support two years after separating. 692 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, so she she has requested spousal, spousal and 693 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: child support, and so I guess they got. They filed 694 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: for divorce they feel like pretty recently. 695 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 2: So it obviously didn't end well. 696 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: So the filing didn't indicate whether or not they had 697 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: a prenup in place. 698 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, so, which means most likely that that wasn't the case. 699 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 2: Yeah right, Oh, well, more, I love her. I do 700 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 2: love Tori, so I'm just wishing her so much love. 701 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: I met her once at a an iHeart thing and 702 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: she was so so so sweet to me. 703 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 2: She is a sweet person, she really is, genuinely. 704 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 705 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 2: Golden Bachelor, jeez, Louise, I've never seen one episode of 706 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 2: The Bachelor, Bachelorette, Bachelor, Paradise, whatever the heck, I've never 707 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 2: not interested. 708 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: Well, I will tell you that I have many, many, 709 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: many I have seen many, many many, and the Golden Bachelor. 710 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: And I am friends with Teresa. 711 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 2: Oh so okay, yeah, just so you know, after reading 712 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 2: this whole long ass article, I'm also on Teresa's side. 713 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 2: Just FYI. 714 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: Well, I will tell you that, talk about a sweet, 715 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: kind human, he seems what a doll and I did 716 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: watch The Golden Bachelor and I interviewed a few of 717 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: those folks and she was just she's a special person. 718 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 2: Did you know Teresa prior to her being on the podcast? 719 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: No, I didn't, but we were actually all in Tahoe 720 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: together for yeah, and it was it was really great 721 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: and Leslie who was on Golden Bauchler two and that 722 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: she went really really far. And but anyway, so apparently, 723 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: according to Teresa, he said some whack a dutally dud 724 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 1: really kind of scary, right. 725 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 2: I mean red flag? 726 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, red was dark with the red black. I 727 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: don't know. So apparently she went to his house and 728 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 1: they took a walk around. They called it pretty lake 729 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: and he she said they were coming to the end 730 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: of the lake and he goes, do you see that's 731 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,399 Speaker 1: shit up there? Uh, that's where I'm going to hide 732 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: your body after I kill you and chalk. 733 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 2: Cut you up into pieces like that is crazy, And 734 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 2: she said. 735 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: She was laughing, her nervous laugh, but he was. 736 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 2: Not, Okay, that is crazy. I would have ran for 737 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 2: the hills. 738 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know how in what context that was 739 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 1: you ever ask me. I didn't know about this. So 740 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 1: when I when Teresa and I became friends, I knew 741 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: that it was not good, but this just came out 742 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: so and she didn't mention it to me at all, right, creepy. 743 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, so he seems to be a little bit of 744 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 2: an attention grabber. 745 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 3: Uh. 746 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:18,800 Speaker 1: Yes, I think he loved you. 747 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 2: I think he loved the attention a little bit. Now, 748 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 2: mind you, there's two sides to every story. Absolutely, but 749 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 2: I don't know it was all a little I mean, 750 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 2: like I said, I never watched it, but yet I 751 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,399 Speaker 2: felt emotionally connected when they said they were divorcing after 752 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 2: just like a couple of days of being married. 753 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: Right, Yes, Well, I think also, I guess this was reacting. 754 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 1: This just came out like yes, because of his book, right, 755 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: and so maybe she was reacting to that. I mean, 756 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 1: she said, she goes, I don't think he would have 757 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: killed me. He says, I don't think that was true. 758 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: It just spoke to an underlying feeling about me, like 759 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 1: he wanted she felt like he just wanted to get 760 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 1: rid of her. 761 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 2: Right, that's so odd. Okay, So basically The Golden Bachelor 762 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 2: detailed his romance with his final Rose winner in his 763 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 2: memoir Golden Years. She's laying out her own perspective and 764 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 2: recently shared an unsettling memory with her former husband. Okay, 765 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 2: so yes, so this is why this is all happening. Okay, 766 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 2: got it. 767 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: God, she's reacting to all of his claims. 768 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 2: Well, there was quite a few from what I read. 769 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 770 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 2: Look, I there's been bachelor bachelorette contestants on Dancing with 771 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 2: the Stars, and I believe that. Look, it's not normal 772 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,320 Speaker 2: the situation you're put in, right, Like everything moves so fast, 773 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 2: and then yeah, there is that moment of silent or 774 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 2: quiet time where it hasn't been announced who the winner is, 775 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 2: and then you have to do this like hide out. 776 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 2: Like it's just not a normal environment. 777 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 1: It seems like it would be romantic, but it's probably intense. 778 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure, because like the camera is like some 779 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 2: you know, people don't know. Sometimes you perform in front 780 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 2: of the cameras, you don't know you're performing right, right, 781 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 2: you know, you're very aware of it, and then all 782 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 2: of a sudden's true, they're not there, and you're like, wait, 783 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 2: who is this person who's not always on? 784 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 1: Right? 785 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 2: Like I know I'm not always on in normal life. 786 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: Me neither, you know, it was nice about Golden because 787 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 1: you don't watch it, but as opposed to the others 788 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: the Bachelor, Beginning Bachelor, and Bachelorette, the Golden Bachelor's I 789 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,760 Speaker 1: felt like it was a very inspiring show and not listen. 790 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 1: They even had like Bachelor's in Paradise, they had both 791 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,439 Speaker 1: the golden and the younger ones, and the younger ones 792 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: were almost condescending, like, oh, they're so cute, they're look 793 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 1: at them thing. But like when it was just the 794 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: Golden Bachelor, it was really nice and see how older 795 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 1: people also, how like the guys interacted with each other 796 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 1: like a gentleman. For the bachelorette was so great and 797 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 1: even and the women they were actually making friends and 798 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,839 Speaker 1: all of that was very inspiring. But in the end 799 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: it did not work out, and she actually said that 800 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:03,760 Speaker 1: he wanted her to quit working. 801 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 2: Well, they said that they supposedly discussed this and she 802 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 2: was going she said that she was going to quit. 803 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 2: From his side of the story, right right, I don't 804 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 2: think he should ever expect anybody to change their lives 805 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 2: for you, if you know what I mean, Like, you 806 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 2: can't change anybody right well. 807 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,879 Speaker 1: Right, I mean, yeah, he's retired. I guess he wanted 808 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: her to hang out with him. I would never be 809 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: able to sleep for independence, and yes, exactly get. 810 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 2: Some insurance on that body of yours. 811 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you. But you know, I don't, like I 812 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 1: said to you before, I'm not obviously I don't. I 813 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 1: wasn't there, even though I'm friends with Teresa and he 814 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 1: does a pod with Amy Robach and t J. Holmes 815 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 1: that you guys can listen to, so I would be 816 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: interested to hear in hearing his and no one does 817 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 1: a pod like those two, so I would be interested 818 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 1: in hearing you know what he had to say. So, 819 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: I mean, and it's I thought that because maybe of 820 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: their age, they would be able to keep it nice. 821 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 2: Oh well, well, I do believe though that maybe. Do 822 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 2: you think the network had anything to do with the 823 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,839 Speaker 2: fact that they had to announce it publicly that they 824 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 2: were going to separate because it was so soon, right, 825 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 2: So I think it is whole thing. 826 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 1: Yes, I think, I think, Yes, I think they did. 827 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 1: I guess there's a I guess you sign a contract 828 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 1: of course. 829 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 2: And by the way, like the amount of just everything, 830 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 2: I mean, they even said this in the article. Someone 831 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 2: referred to the fact that they didn't want to back out. 832 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 2: I mean the production of it, the people pleasing, the 833 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 2: fact that they you know, all these people traveled to 834 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 2: be there at their wedding. It's like that was on 835 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 2: TV and not the way I get it world right. Yeah, 836 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 2: it's a lot, it is, And you're not thinking about 837 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,839 Speaker 2: yourself though you should because this is your day. You're 838 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 2: thinking about crap. I have people traveling from across the 839 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 2: world to come here, Like you're like, but this is 840 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 2: the rest of my life. It makes no sense now, 841 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 2: right if you think about it in like right, But 842 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 2: then when you're in a dress already and it's like 843 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,760 Speaker 2: count down till the freaking prince and princess gets married, 844 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,720 Speaker 2: you're gonna do it. You're doing it with a smile 845 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:53,240 Speaker 2: on your face. 846 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: Well, he's already found someone else. Apparently he's already engaged, 847 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 1: So you know, would you do it? Would you go on? 848 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 4: No? 849 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 1: I know you wouldn't. Of course you wouldn't the bachelor. 850 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 2: No, there was talk of this many eons ago. But 851 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 2: I would have after it back back then when I 852 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 2: was drinking. 853 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,320 Speaker 1: Probably, well, if I was single, I think I would. 854 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,760 Speaker 2: You would. Yeah, I could see you on it, really, 855 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 2: you know, what I can only assume this though, is 856 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 2: that I believe maybe was there a sense of like 857 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 2: just authenticity when you saw The Golden Bachelor, because they 858 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:26,800 Speaker 2: weren't putting on a show. 859 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 1: Definitely from so during the Golden Bachelor, the women specifically felt, 860 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 1: they were not just felt because we I've actually interviewed 861 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 1: a few of them and they are authentic and on 862 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 1: the show. I what I saw on the show was 863 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: what I got, you know, when I was talking to 864 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 1: them on the pod and Esa and Leslie off the pod. 865 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 1: So yes. And in terms of the guys, you know 866 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 1: on the Bachelorette, they were adorable, they bonded and it. 867 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 2: Was a friendship special thrette right, yes. 868 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 1: Yes, well that was what was I think that show 869 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 1: so special? Yes, because you're mature enough that it's that 870 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: is important friendship, right. 871 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 2: But the Golden is specific because I don't know if 872 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 2: the other ones do that. Maybe they do. 873 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't know about this season just not 874 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:17,319 Speaker 1: so good. But anyways, my friend always a pleasure, and yeah, 875 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 1: it is such a pleasure. I love talking to you. 876 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I can see you on that show. 877 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 2: But you're married. We shouldn't even be talking about that. 878 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 1: Well no, just kidding, just kidding, next lifetime. 879 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 2: Don't manifest it unless you want to. I could help you. 880 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 1: Believe me, I ain't manifested nothing when it comes to my. 881 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 2: Technically, we just did, didn't we. We spoke it to exist. 882 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,800 Speaker 1: Really say that. Don't get all nervous. 883 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,799 Speaker 2: That is part of the manifested. 884 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 1: Really well, we have to talk about that. 885 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 2: Speak it into existence, girlfriends, and. 886 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 1: Not manifest while I'm speaking into into existence, never ever 887 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 1: to get separated or divorcekin And for you, my friend, 888 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 1: whatever it is that you want next, I want to. 889 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 2: Single forever, single forever. I love single life too much. 890 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 1: I love that you love it all right, guys, so listen. 891 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 1: Lots of headlines this week, crazy and so I mean, 892 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 1: I hope, we hope that you like gossiping with us, 893 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 1: just gossip, though I feel like we go deeper. 894 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:15,360 Speaker 2: It's real, real, innocent. 895 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think it is too. We'll go with that. 896 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 2: Check out I do part two after dark for more 897 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 2: of the real gossip. 898 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:27,799 Speaker 1: Just kidding, yeah right, I love that. So listen. There's 899 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 1: one thing for sure. If you're listening and going through 900 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 1: a divorce or heartbreak right now, you are not alone 901 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 1: and If you need help getting through your heartbreak, call us, 902 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 1: email us. All the infos in the show notes, follow 903 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 1: us on socials. Make sure to rate and review the 904 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 1: podcast I Do Part two, an iHeart podcast where falling 905 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,439 Speaker 1: in love is the main objective. Love you, Cheryl let 906 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 1: we fell in love. 907 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,840 Speaker 2: So yeah, exactly. That's all that matters. 908 00:42:52,080 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 1: That's all it matters. Bye, guys, thank you. Bye.