WEBVTT - Stolen People on Stolen Land 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:03.119 You're listening and waiting on reparations the production of iHeart 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:07.520 Radio and non reparations. Way, none reparations all you motherfucker's 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:11.320 about you looking eavy hey and fraid none reparations. Yeo, 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:13.720 I got so much ship in the camp. I ain't 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:16.120 tipping my hand in my career. Why I stand it's 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:19.560 probably indigenous land. And then my superhero posed, but my 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:22.119 fist in the sand, I ain't seen nothing, Officer like, 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:24.720 I'm resisting the man. Which I did it again. I 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:27.360 popped like a fish in the pan. Make you rewind 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:30.080 the ship and try to listen again. It stove knife. 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:33.279 I'm rhyming reckless. Your whole mind is feckless. I roll 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:35.800 the blutt and then I smoke or drinking wine for breakfast. 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:38.519 This is the forty five mark. I'll give it ninety seconds. 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:41.560 Then I'll keep your cardio straight. You never found me breathless. 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:43.519 I called it vintage. You can say I got a 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:45.839 funny flow. You're talking to a stack of books. You're 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:48.240 talking to your money. Though, I really need a snack. 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:50.360 I eat a wrapper like a honey roll. It was 0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:53.000 gonna give the stimulus, but now the fucking money froze 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:56.680 juxtaposed just supposed that I'm just the bro. No one's 0:00:56.760 --> 0:01:05.560 home was my clothes. Oh, it's just the road. Hey, 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:13.240 my name is Lingua Franca. I'm dope night on remations. 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:19.360 Oh my god, that's perfect. I feel like that prevalent 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:25.480 capitulate swear. This week, it's been. It's been a heck 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:30.360 of a week. It definitely happens. So, I mean, what's 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:32.479 gone on this week? We took last week off, as 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:36.480 you guys don't know, um, but what has happened? Oh? 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:39.920 I got stopped by the cops when I was canvasing. 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:43.600 That was fun. That was fun. We were canvasing. I 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:46.080 don't even want to say it was a pro Trump neighborhood. 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:50.360 There was definitely a lot more Trump signs than I 0:01:50.360 --> 0:01:51.880 had seen in a lot of the places we had 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:54.720 been at. But you know, we're walking through and I 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:56.840 just had a feeling, you know, And then the next 0:01:56.880 --> 0:01:58.440 thing I know, we hear somebody and they're like, hey, 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:00.640 can I talked to you guys around? It's like a 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:04.840 loan cop. We're like, oh word. We I automatically was 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:08.600 putting together what happened. But the ship that was the 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:13.080 surprising part. Was like the three other dragon Neet squad 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:16.760 cars that like pulled up, like the dudes popping out 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:19.400 as if there was some ship already going on. So 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:22.919 that was cool. I love that. Love getting a racially 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:26.639 profiled while trying to just get people to vote. I mean, 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:28.440 I don't even know if it was racially profile I 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:30.480 think it was like straight up attempted murder, you know, 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:34.840 because whoever called the cop, whoever called the cops, they 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:41.400 saw us like talking to their neighbors before they called 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:43.640 the cops. So it's not even like a situation where 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:46.120 we were just like some sketchy black dudes and like 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:52.560 okay talking to people. Yeah, the moment we rolled in, 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:54.320 we were talking to people, you know what I'm saying. 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:56.920 So they saw us talking and smiling and that we 0:02:56.919 --> 0:03:02.720 were handing out uh you know, literature and ship and 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:05.160 you know, I'm pretty sure they in that neighborhood know 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:07.400 who's the Biden people who's not, because it's not like 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:10.400 we're knocking up not Biden people, but who's for we're 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:13.160 knocking also who's not. And it's not like we were 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:15.400 knocking on doors at random, you know what I'm saying, 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:17.680 Like we're going to Yeah, we we, I mean our 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:21.960 and we've been targeting low propensity Democratic voters. So folks that, like, 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:27.320 according to their voting records are Democrats, but like don't 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:30.080 usually get out and vote and like runoffs or special 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:34.680 elections or things like that. Yeah, so that was whack. Yeah, 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:39.040 I mean I've been through that before. But yeah, we 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:41.200 did get a new kitten. Though we did get new 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:43.800 kitten that's bringing some joy into the household. You know, 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:47.160 doesn't replace eggs. I still miss eggs. And he's like, 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:49.680 so you know that the surly face he's always had, 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:51.680 he always looked mad, but then he kicked him up 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:54.440 and like spin him around and flop his head and 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:56.320 he would just like love it. And even though he 0:03:56.600 --> 0:03:59.200 looked mad a whole things like that, I still miss X. 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:03.400 But you know, is adorable. He is. I'm sure he'll 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:06.440 be big enough to be cause in ruck as while 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:10.080 we're recording. And yeah, and I would like the world 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:14.400 to know that his name Sinks are a combination of 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:21.240 future Congresswoman Nita Turner and the fictional movie gangster Nino 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:24.760 Brown from New Jack City. So we've both got to 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:29.880 like do have part of our you know, nerdiness reflected 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:35.200 in the cat's name. And there's mad incriminating pictures of 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:39.400 me being sweet and adorable with the cat. Listeners, Listeners, 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:43.279 check this out, mac love for this cat is so pure. 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:49.080 We're just saying, such a grown ass man, this crumble 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:54.359 at the feet of tiny. We can't let any of 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:59.600 that imagery get out there. I'm a rapper, don't used 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:04.040 to wrap this funny cat. Yeah, all these three credits 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:07.040 done so Oh as if I had any street cred 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:09.880 to begin with. But now that's gonna kill. That's gonna 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:13.520 kill a little there was. Yeah, well, um, so what 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:15.440 are we What are we talking about today? We're revisiting 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:19.680 an interview that we did several months ago with an activist, 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:23.839 an indigenous activist from New Mexico named La La june Um. 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:26.440 I had a really insightful conversation with her about the 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:32.200 ways that indigeneity influences her political organizing and worldview. And 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:35.039 I just feel like, especially in the in like the 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:38.200 wake of our recent conversation with Daniel Blackman about a 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:42.680 Great New Deal, I thought these perspectives on the environmental 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:48.240 injustice and you know, equally sustainability and land stewardship could 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:51.400 be like a cool follow up for that. No, I agree, 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:54.159 nout Um. We're also gonna be talking about how COVID 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:59.479 does disproportionately affecting Indigenous communities. And for the music discussion, 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:02.760 we've got a real dope crop of Indigenous Native artists 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:05.440 that we're gonna check out. It also comes on the 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:09.400 tail of a reason. Uh, I don't even want to 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:14.760 call it snapoo, but our current Georgia Republican Senators Kelly 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:19.120 Leffler and David Purdue came out with a strong statement 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:23.920 in support of the name of the Atlanta Braves, as 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:26.600 if there's nothing more important to be if you know, 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:29.200 they're you know, going back and forth between science is 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:32.920 the most important election of a lifetime. While meanwhile, taking 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:38.640 a break from the campaign trail to staunchly stand behind colonialists, 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:43.880 uh garbage. They put out a statement, this is a 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:47.840 per CBS News. They said, we adamantly oppose any effort 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:50.720 to rename the Atlanta Braves, one of our state's most 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:55.440 storied and successful sport franchises. They said this on Monday, 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:58.320 so this would have been last Monday when we took 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:01.640 the week off, not on we are the Braves Georgia 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:05.680 institution with the history spanning fifty four years in Atlanta, 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:09.160 they are an American institution. I did not know the 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:14.320 Atlanta Braves were this fucking important to Ship outside of 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:18.240 baseball until I just read that statement an American institution. 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:21.480 You know what else was a story in American institution, 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:26.520 Uh Native tribes that like who this land belongs to 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:32.320 thousands of years before we were and who were genocided 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:37.920 by uh colonialist maniacs. But oh, let's let's not let's 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:39.640 you know, make sure to put that aside. For the 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:43.440 fifty four year history of the Atlanta Atlanta Braves, it's 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:46.200 pretty much just right wing virtue signaling at this point. 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:51.960 I mean, Ship, it's just reaching out to the you know, 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:59.160 to whatever unactivated racist or left in Georgia. Like a guys, 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:04.000 don't forget we don't think too much about Native Americans. Also, 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:09.240 do you understand you here? Just in case you're mistaken 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:16.920 thinking it's all about rack socialism and antiva what them engines, 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:25.640 there's parity of themselves at this point. So um, anyway, Yeah, 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:28.840 wherever you are, where you'rever, you're listening kick back. I'm 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:30.680 about to light went up and we're gonna get into 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:42.760 it after the job. And so something that I drew 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:45.000 a lot from in my talk with Lather that you 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:46.800 all are going to hear in a little bit UM 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:50.120 was kind of thinking about the ways that the federal 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:55.720 government's attempts to prescribe indigeneity kind of parallel and if 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:59.760 it's sometimes impacted um, black people living in this land 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:01.600 is well. And that led me to kind of do 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:04.520 a little bit of research about what blood quantums are 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:09.239 and you know, how they have impacted Native American communities 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:13.160 as well as Black folks. Surprisingly, so if you're not 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:17.679 familiar with the idea, um, blood quantums is this measurement 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:20.920 of how much Indian Native American blood did you have 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:26.080 in your body as a way of determining your rightful 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:31.000 belonging to a tribe and duste how much the federal 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:34.720 government you know, like how big, how big the tribe is? 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:37.640 You know, whether or not you qualify for programs that 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:42.080 are specifically for Native people's things like that. It can 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:45.160 affect your identity, your relationships, and whether or not you 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:50.559 or your children, um can become a citizen of your tribe. UM. 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:53.920 So many Native nations, including the Navajo Nation and the 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:57.760 Turnital Mountain band of the Chippewa Indians still use it 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:03.800 as citizenship requirements, although among like American uh Native communities, 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:07.760 there's a lot of disagreement about the ways that blood 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:11.840 quantums kind of like contradicts or runs contrary to like 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:16.040 their conceptions of what makes one native um. Some tribes accepted, 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:21.080 others go with more of a linear lineal um determination 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:23.520 of you know, if you belong to the tribe, and 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:26.280 some others have sort of thrown out the metric entirely 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:30.640 because it's just it's imposed upon them by the federal government, 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:35.920 not it's not like something they even want. Yeah. Um, 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:40.760 the Navajo Nation requires a minimum of Navajo blood, and 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:44.680 Turtle Mountain requires a minimum of of any Indian blood 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:48.000 as long as it's a combination with some Turtle Mountain. Yeah. 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:49.839 So different tribes kind of do it in different ways, 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:52.080 and ultimately it kind of restricts who can be a 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:56.400 citizen of the tribe if you've got, for example, you know, 0:10:57.640 --> 0:11:01.400 nate Navajo blood. According to that tribes bloo quantum standards, 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:03.600 if you have children with someone who has a lower 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:06.400 blood quantum, maybe someone who is only an eighth Navajo, 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:09.360 or maybe someone's not Navajo at all. Technically your children 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:12.080 wouldn't be able to enroll as members of the Navajo nation. 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:14.680 So the federal government, this is what it just gets 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:18.080 really under my skin and find kind of creepy um issues. 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:21.520 Was called a certified degree of Indian blood. There's a 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:25.120 card similar to an ID card um that shows you 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:28.720 know whether or not you are technically of a certain 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:34.040 tribe and um. It's usually calculated using you know, your 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:38.840 blood quantums calculated by using tribal documents, official tribal documents 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:43.040 or government official um ortin sorry, so usually it's like 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:45.800 a tribal official or government official that calculates it for me, 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:48.280 for you. But one of the major problems with blood 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:51.080 quantum is that a lot of times the people who 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:55.160 were taking the federal taking the roles for the federal government, 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:59.640 we're unfamiliar with Native ways of defining their own communities. 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:01.920 And so you have people come in who would just 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:05.520 look around, just look at folks and say you look 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:11.200 pretty Navajo. U so I the white guy, UM say 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:15.400 you're so Tho's actually former black slaves who are living 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:20.280 as just fully like incorporated members of Indian tribes um 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:23.839 who you know, when the government officials will come in 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:26.520 and take the rules were they would take one look 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:28.280 at them. I was like this, this Nigga is clearly 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:32.040 a nigga um and so you are not of this tribe. 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:35.840 And they would get excluded, even um and even those 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:38.000 with mixed heritage if they were black in indiand if 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:40.920 they look black, they would get um listed on the 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:45.440 separate role. And so today the ramification is that they 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:49.480 don't have the original. They don't have that original unrollly 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:52.479 in their past, so they don't have enough blood quantum 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:55.600 to be extended tribal membership, even though in every way 0:12:55.640 --> 0:13:00.760 cultural and social they might be fully incorporated into the tribe. Now, 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:04.360 the one drop rule is similar to the one drop 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:06.520 rules I think listeners would probably be more familiar with. 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:08.240 But yeah, go ahead and tell them about them. Oh 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:10.760 about the one So the one drop rule is measured 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:13.200 by the amount of black blood that black people had 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:16.840 in society, and that ensured that every person who had 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:19.880 at least one drop would be considered black and would 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:23.920 be covered under the would be covered under these discriminatory laws. 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:27.199 And even in the earlier days, enslaves so yeah, this 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:29.800 is a part of this legacy of the federal government 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:39.439 needing to inscribe racial rules onto people, sometimes to provision services, 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:42.880 but also in a certain sense to limit the scope 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:44.760 of those services, because like, well, if we're able to 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:47.000 whittle down the number of people we say are a 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:49.800 part of this tribe, that means we don't have to 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:54.880 ensure services to as many folks. Yeah. On the flip side, 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:58.040 with African Americans, you know, if you have one drop 0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:01.719 of black blood, if we're able to like quantify and 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:07.160 therefore categorize you racially, uh, then we can also we 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:10.720 can discriminate against you. It's just this weird, this weird 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:13.880 thing the federal government does. So Yeah, the same way 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:18.840 that like, uh, one drop was enough to classify as 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:21.800 black blood, quantum emerges a way to measure Indian this 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:25.920 um and also serve as a way to ensure that 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:29.680 Indians would literally breed themselves out of existence and read 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:33.600 the federal government of their legal responsibility to uphold treaty obligations. 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:35.720 And technically there are no longer members of the tribe 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:39.560 because all of their descendants have married into people of 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:42.120 other races and no one has high enough blood wants 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:44.120 them to qualify as a member of the tribe. So 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:47.160 it was all of this stuff like UM pushed by 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:51.640 the federal government. So the actual tribes themselves had nothing 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:54.360 to do with these determinations. I mean, some tribes, it 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:58.680 sounds like, do it in different ways, but to me, 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:00.800 it still seems like it was impos most upon them 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:05.280 and it's something their own, uh sense of identity and worldview. 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:08.800 It wasn't It wasn't like endogenous to these communities. There's 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:11.880 one tribe I recall in my research that actually UM 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:15.920 somewhere in Canada that did away with all sorts of 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:19.640 lineal or blood quantum requirements entirely. Anyone can be a 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:24.800 member of the tribe. They just said, anybody, you're in UM. 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:28.640 And so it really varies from tribe to tribe. But UM, 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:31.480 I just like you know, we were sure about hip hop. 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:34.560 We talk about black issues a lot, but moments to 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:37.880 sort of pause and consider the ways our struggles intersect 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:44.280 and UM are impacted by similar vehicles of policy, like 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:50.760 similar public policy vehicles through like federal, state and local governments. UM. 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:53.480 I think it's always interesting kind of helps build solidarity. 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:55.480 And so I found this way, I found this like 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:59.760 really fruitful for like thinking more deeply about um, just 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:02.520 like what our shared battles are and how we can 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:05.120 sort of come together to fight fight off all these 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:07.280 ways that people try to define who we are for us. 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:10.720 Have you ever have you ever thought about or have 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:14.120 you already like tried to look into what your native 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:18.880 roots are? I mean, I'm I'm I'm aware of UM, 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:22.680 I'm Native American. UM. I talked a little bit about 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:24.960 this in my interview with Lila, But I grew up 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:28.560 going to like pow wows on the reservation and other 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:31.680 than that though not really participating in any ceremonies or 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:35.800 learning about the culture whatsoever. But like, um, yeah, like 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:38.520 every time I drive home, there's like, you know, the 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:42.000 tribal we passed the tribal government office and like you know, 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:44.680 reading the newspaper about the chiefs and what's going on 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:48.200 with the tribe, and there you know, decision like legislation, 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:51.280 decisions are making for the community. Uh. And I think 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:53.360 it's really interesting and something I've grappled with a lot. 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:57.680 It's an adult is that because of the one drop 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:00.360 rule and things like this, And I guess as well 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:03.720 to a lesser degree than was like, um obvious to 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:06.439 me growing up or in my like I don't know 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:11.919 political transformation as a young adult. Um uh an account 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:13.919 of like the way that blood quantum has also worked, 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:16.679 uh the one drop rules, so that like if you 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:18.840 are like a little bit black, you're black. Doesn't matter. 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:22.160 If you're Mexican doesn't matter, if you're Filipino, doesn't matter, 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:26.600 if you are um whatever. Well, like if you got 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:28.680 a little bit black, you're black. And so, like I've grown, 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:31.000 I was raised a black person despite the fact that 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:35.679 like my like grandfather was the chief of the tribe. Okay, 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:38.439 so you're so that's so as far as your roots go. 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:42.560 So your great grandfather was fully Native American. Yeah, I mean, 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:44.439 I don't know. Well, I mean, and that's the thing, fully, 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:47.439 what do you mean by that? Because like from everybody, 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:50.480 everybody like, well, I guess what I would mean is 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:53.159 like a pretty light skinned person, and like where I 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:55.600 come from, everybody looks like me. Where it's like you 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:58.360 would probably lump them into the category of black because 0:17:58.359 --> 0:17:59.959 of the way that the race is made of binary 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:02.760 in the United States. But like we're all Native Americans 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:05.440 and we're all members of the tribe, even though maybe 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:10.560 there's some you know, some European American mix in, etcetera. 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:14.840 But like it's more of a cultural um affinity and 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:18.440 cultural affiliation than it is so like like well, well 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:22.679 who was your daddy pure blood or anything like that. 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:26.280 It's just about like we're a community and if you're 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:29.919 from here, this is a part of who you are. UM, 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:32.959 And so trying to nap our own sense of who 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:37.720 we are as a people onto like this greater cultural 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:43.720 um framework that that like just like it's tries to 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:48.080 compartmentalize people in ways that just doesn't work. Um is 0:18:48.119 --> 0:18:49.920 the struggle and something I'm trying to learn how to 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:52.800 resist as they get older, Like on my forms, trying 0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:55.040 to like, you know, check that I am Alti Native 0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:58.200 American because time I didn't, because that's not why people 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:01.720 from the outside told me that I was when they 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:06.720 look at me. Um. The basketball player Kyrie Irving a 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:11.160 couple of years ago went to the Standing Rock Reservation 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:14.560 to get in touch with his Sioux heritage. I guess 0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:17.159 his mother was born into the Sioux tribe before she 0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:21.080 was adopted, and he's been going on a little bit 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:25.520 of a you know, finding his inner self journey the 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:29.000 last few years and reconnecting with that part of his 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:32.119 heritage seems to be doing the trick a little bit. Yeah, 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:34.399 so and and and Lylon, Lylon and I talked a 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:36.520 little bit about this in the episode in the interview, 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:40.159 so hopefully for other for other people were interested in 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:44.240 this for themselves. Um, I think you'll find this really 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:46.480 insightful and hopefully helpful for you in your journey and 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:51.119 reconnecting with your native roots. So let's actually go to 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:54.320 the Leila interview right now and check that out. So 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:58.520 this is my interview with Lela June, environmental justice activists, 0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:01.760 spoken word artists, and warmer candidate for house in the 0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:04.639 state of New Mexico. With forgiveness as my bow and 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:07.320 my prayers as my animals pull them back and let 0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:13.320 go and fly like sparrows have ho So, Lyla, tell 0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:15.200 us a little bit about yourself, how you got here, 0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:17.359 and how hip hop and spoken word have played a 0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:21.280 role in your life. Well, I always wanted to share 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:24.800 my message with the world as an Indigenous woman, because 0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:29.280 much of our story has never been told to the 0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:33.920 non native world in our own voice. And so I stopped. 0:20:34.320 --> 0:20:38.600 I stumbled upon spoken word when I was in high school, um, 0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:42.440 and I won a bunch of national poetry slams and 0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:45.840 things of things like that. And hip hop, of course 0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:49.840 is uh an incredible tool that I'm forever indebted to 0:20:50.000 --> 0:20:54.679 the African American population, and a lot of marginalized communities 0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:58.200 are indebted to the African American population for giving us 0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:01.920 that tool to not to elevate their communities, but they 0:21:01.960 --> 0:21:05.520 gave it to many marginalized communities to help us elevate 0:21:05.840 --> 0:21:08.480 our communities as well. And so it's been a real 0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:12.200 joy to use these tools also as a musician with 0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:17.240 my guitar and singer songwriter to elevate my my story 0:21:17.400 --> 0:21:20.919 so that we can increase visibility for indigenous peoples and 0:21:21.080 --> 0:21:23.199 our struggles. Can you talk a little bit about your 0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:26.520 earliest exposures to hip hop? Wow? Well, I think my 0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:29.439 earliest exposures to hip hop and I don't know if 0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:33.879 i'd call it hip hop, but was mainstream pop music, uh, 0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:36.640 And I never really resonated with that because a lot 0:21:36.640 --> 0:21:42.240 of it was degrading women and and encouraging what I've 0:21:42.280 --> 0:21:46.840 viewed as unhealthy things, and so I've never really understood 0:21:46.840 --> 0:21:49.520 that hip hop was more than just a tool of 0:21:49.600 --> 0:21:52.239 oppression that if you used it correctly, it could be 0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:56.560 a tool of liberation. And so once once I discovered that, 0:21:56.640 --> 0:21:59.359 I think the first person I don't know if you 0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:01.720 know Blackly just, but he was probably the first person 0:22:01.800 --> 0:22:05.200 who opened my eyes to how this UM tool could 0:22:05.200 --> 0:22:08.399 be used to elevate all people. Yeah. Yeah, I had 0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:10.480 a similar journey with hip hop as a young person, 0:22:10.720 --> 0:22:12.840 kind of not really identifying with it when I was 0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:16.840 an adolescent because of its misogyny and in its mainstream incarnations, 0:22:16.880 --> 0:22:21.920 and later finding artists that were inspiring that UM kind 0:22:21.920 --> 0:22:23.320 of brought me around to see how it could be 0:22:23.400 --> 0:22:25.560 used as a tool proliberation. So I feel you a 0:22:25.560 --> 0:22:28.520 lot on UM, I'll feel you a lot on that. UM. 0:22:28.600 --> 0:22:30.720 Do you see an advantage to using hip hop in 0:22:30.760 --> 0:22:33.600 particular to get certain message and points across more effectively 0:22:33.640 --> 0:22:37.800 than in other medium's? Absolutely? Um. Well, you know we 0:22:37.920 --> 0:22:41.800 learn our A B c's through song, right, because when 0:22:42.080 --> 0:22:45.880 you're learning something through song and rhythm, you remember it 0:22:46.040 --> 0:22:49.240 much more easily. I remember learning songs when I was 0:22:49.400 --> 0:22:52.840 very very young, and I still remember them as a 0:22:52.840 --> 0:22:56.639 thirty year old woman. And I remember commercials. You know, 0:22:57.000 --> 0:22:59.720 industries used that against us, and they get us to 0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:03.440 member arize their slogans and the names of their brands 0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:06.399 with song, you know. And so we can utilize song 0:23:07.000 --> 0:23:11.880 too and rhythm to translate messages to people that they 0:23:11.880 --> 0:23:14.240 can keep, that they can remember, that they can carry 0:23:14.240 --> 0:23:17.160 with them throughout their lives. And as a Denay woman, 0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:20.080 as an indigenous woman or as some people call it, 0:23:20.200 --> 0:23:23.119 Native American woman, which we think that term is problematic, 0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:26.639 but um, yeah, all of our are. A lot of 0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:31.400 our cultural knowledge was passed down to generation and generation 0:23:31.480 --> 0:23:34.719 through song, and so our wisdom and our way of 0:23:34.760 --> 0:23:37.840 life was encoded in song. And so I think hip 0:23:37.880 --> 0:23:41.679 hop is another iteration of the natural human inclination to 0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:48.440 share information via song, and I think it's incredibly effective. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah. 0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:50.840 I think that the way that song can kind of 0:23:50.880 --> 0:23:53.600 act as a mnemonic in a certain sense for making 0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:57.840 a message become embedded in your mind is really powerful too. 0:23:57.880 --> 0:24:00.639 And as I think a lot of my dariences with 0:24:00.840 --> 0:24:04.760 performing also helped prepare me for speaking out for public service. 0:24:04.800 --> 0:24:07.879 Do you feel the same about your the linkages between 0:24:07.920 --> 0:24:11.440 your music experience and your experience of public service. Now, 0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:14.480 you know, that's a very interesting question that I haven't 0:24:14.520 --> 0:24:17.560 thought about, but now that I reflect on it, absolutely, 0:24:17.920 --> 0:24:21.159 I mean getting in front of crowd after crowd after crowd, 0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:24.040 starting at age fourteen as a spoken word artist, you 0:24:24.160 --> 0:24:28.440 really learned to soak up the nervousness and the awkwardness 0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:32.120 and the fear that comes with public speaking and and 0:24:32.200 --> 0:24:37.960 metabolize that that raw, energetic moment where you everyone is 0:24:38.000 --> 0:24:41.239 hanging on every word you say, and you turn that 0:24:41.520 --> 0:24:45.159 from a place of fear and doubt into a place 0:24:45.240 --> 0:24:49.199 of beauty and even even control to a certain extent, 0:24:49.280 --> 0:24:52.840 and leveraging that control with a lot of integrity and 0:24:52.920 --> 0:24:56.840 gentleness to the crowd. So that UM as a spoken 0:24:56.840 --> 0:25:00.040 word artist and as a musician who's spoken in and 0:25:00.240 --> 0:25:04.520 crowds of anything from twenty people to uh six thousand people, 0:25:04.800 --> 0:25:10.400 UM recently did a speech at the um My First Arena, 0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:13.639 you know, and so we're we're in that situation where 0:25:14.440 --> 0:25:18.119 we have that experience and that doesn't daunt us. And 0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:20.000 so now that you think about it, I think that 0:25:20.080 --> 0:25:23.440 absolutely helps and and helps me kind of own the stage. 0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:26.920 Throughout the campaign trip, I've struggled a lot as I've 0:25:26.960 --> 0:25:29.280 come to become an adult and realized how little I 0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:31.760 know about my native heritage, despite the fact that like 0:25:32.240 --> 0:25:34.480 growing up it was symnthathized to me that like we 0:25:34.520 --> 0:25:36.440 did have this part of us, but like my parents 0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:39.360 didn't pass down to me those traditions, like figuring out 0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:41.800 how to get back in touch with my roots, get 0:25:41.840 --> 0:25:44.199 back in tou touch with my culture, especially living away 0:25:44.240 --> 0:25:48.040 from our lands. Now my people are from North Carolina. 0:25:48.080 --> 0:25:51.040 I'm here in Georgia, and so having that physical distance 0:25:51.080 --> 0:25:54.880 between like the tribal lands and like myself now, like 0:25:54.920 --> 0:25:57.119 what is it what would you say to someone like 0:25:57.200 --> 0:26:00.200 myself that you know, I given given the way at 0:26:00.280 --> 0:26:02.640 race works in America and like the one drop rule 0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:05.959 and the binarization of race, have grown up thinking, you know, 0:26:06.440 --> 0:26:09.040 myself as African American, Like, what would you say as 0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:15.840 would be my first steps into recovering my ancestral identity. Well, 0:26:16.119 --> 0:26:18.840 I think you need help from people like me who 0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:23.080 quote unquote look native and quote unquote are our native 0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:26.080 and are are connected to our roots. We need to 0:26:26.200 --> 0:26:30.080 validate people's indigenous identity, and we need to say we 0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:33.160 need to give people permission to say yes, claim that 0:26:33.640 --> 0:26:38.080 because all of this uh politics of oh well you're 0:26:38.080 --> 0:26:40.919 not you're not really native you're just a thirty sixth 0:26:41.000 --> 0:26:45.439 Cherokee that needs to go because people are Native and 0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:49.840 if we block them and shame them from claiming that, 0:26:50.240 --> 0:26:52.520 then they don't even need to do genocide on us. 0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:54.840 We're doing it to ourselves. We do it to each other. 0:26:55.640 --> 0:26:58.280 And so it's very important, I think, for my folks 0:26:58.640 --> 0:27:00.680 who kind of have the brown's in and the brown 0:27:00.680 --> 0:27:02.800 eyes and the brown hair and and we still know 0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:05.840 the songs and the ceremonies, etcetera, to really look at 0:27:05.840 --> 0:27:08.760 our counterparts who are not just African American, but also 0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:11.199 those who look white, and say, listen, we want you 0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:13.240 to honor who you are, and we need you to 0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:15.000 honor who you are because that's the only way we're 0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:16.920 going to get out of this mess. So that's number. 0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:19.960 What Number two is, um if no one gives you 0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:22.720 permission to claim it, just go on and claim it yourself. 0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:25.880 We don't need someone's permission to claim it. To know 0:27:25.960 --> 0:27:29.160 who you are and and take that, take hold of that. 0:27:29.480 --> 0:27:33.560 And number three is be sensitive to place. You know, 0:27:33.640 --> 0:27:36.080 if you're in Georgia now, then you are in the 0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:39.639 homeland of a different nation and that's okay. And so 0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:43.320 find the nation who you are standing on their land, 0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:46.959 which in your case they might be relocated to Oklahoma, 0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:52.119 but nevertheless, there's always repatriation work going on where they're 0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:54.960 giving land back to indigenous peoples and if there isn't, 0:27:55.200 --> 0:27:58.600 become a part of that. And my personal feeling is 0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:03.240 wherever land you're standing on, uplift the nations who used 0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:06.240 to take care of those lands, because those are the songs, 0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:10.439 those are the ceremonies, those are the traditional ecological knowledge 0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:14.679 bases that are suited to that specific biome, that specific 0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:18.159 ecological context, and those are the ones who have the 0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:21.040 answers of how to become sovereign in terms of food 0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:25.920 security right there in that place. Yeah, that's really valuable. 0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:29.600 I appreciate it from a personal from a personal place. Um, 0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:31.479 I'll definitely keep all of that mind as well as 0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:33.760 in my policy making and thinking about repatriation and like 0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:35.679 what that might look for us, look like for us 0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:38.320 as a local government. Thank you for all the work 0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:41.960 you do, and again, thank you for honoring your indigenous ancestry. 0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:46.120 It's been really fun to be a part of supporting that. 0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:49.240 I lived in Alabama for about a year once and 0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:54.480 all the people I met were indigenous from some community somewhere. 0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:57.560 Most of them, i'd say a good whether they look 0:28:57.600 --> 0:28:59.640 black or they look white. We're a lot of us 0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:02.440 are shirring that. And so my last message I'll just 0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:04.840 leave us with is, you know, please honor that and 0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:07.680 and research that and and give yourself permission to carry 0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:10.440 that with you wherever you go. Okay, great, all right, 0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:12.880 Well I know where to find you. I'm following you. 0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:17.320 I just bought your album, uh to the people's knowledge 0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:21.480 on band campus, that cloud Instagram, it's just Lila June Twitter. 0:29:21.520 --> 0:29:24.720 It's Lila June for in Him And yeah, thank you 0:29:24.800 --> 0:29:26.920 so much for having me. This is a very interesting 0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:30.400 and beautiful conversation, and I hope it inspires many many 0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:35.000 listeners out there, whether they're you know, seasoned politicians or 0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:38.320 everyday citizens like us, you know, to stand up and 0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:40.960 and run for office and know and believe in yourself 0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:44.120 that you're completely worthy of doing so. Thank you so much. 0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:46.520 Have a great rest of your day. All right, thanks 0:29:46.520 --> 0:30:01.160 for your time, guys. Bye, just right now. As with 0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:03.800 like a lot of other aspects of society, one of 0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:06.720 the clearest ways to see the inequalities and hardships that 0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:10.920 face indigenous populations is through the COVID lens. Now it's 0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:14.080 well known that people of color face greater greater risk 0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:16.880 than others from the deadly virus, and that risk only 0:30:16.960 --> 0:30:21.400 increases with Indigenous folk. We came across a really dope 0:30:21.480 --> 0:30:25.800 article in The Atlantic by University of Oregon history professor 0:30:26.880 --> 0:30:32.280 Jeffrey Ostler, titled Disease has Never been Just disease for 0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:36.360 Native Americans. It references virgin soil epidemics, which is a 0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:40.600 theory popularized by Jared Diamonds, Guns, Germs, and Steel that 0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:43.800 when Europeans arrived in the Western hemisphere, they brought diseases, 0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:48.320 particularly things like smallpox and measles, that Indigenous people had 0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:52.440 never experienced before. Because we had no immunity to these diseases, 0:30:52.480 --> 0:30:55.720 the resulting epidemic took the lives of or more of 0:30:55.760 --> 0:31:00.360 the native of population throughout the America's However, new search 0:31:00.400 --> 0:31:04.520 has shown that centuries after the Europeans came post contact, 0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:08.600 effects of diseases devastated indigenous peoples, not because of the 0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:11.479 lack of immunity, but due to the conditions created by 0:31:11.520 --> 0:31:15.880 the Europeans and US colonialisms. It made commute native communities 0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:18.480 more vulnerable to this, The article goes on to state 0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:21.520 to understand how dire the COVID nineteen the situation is 0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:24.280 becoming for these communities. Consider the situation and folding for 0:31:24.280 --> 0:31:27.640 the Navajo Nation people with homelands in Arizona, New Mexico, 0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:32.840 and Utah. As of a sixty infections and fifty dats 0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:35.360 have been reported among the Navajo reservations a hundred and 0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:40.120 seventy thousand people a mortality rate of thirty thousands. Only 0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:46.920 six states have a higher per capita toll. That's nuts, yeah, um. Now, 0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:50.400 part part of what making what makes combating COVID so 0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:56.120 difficult UH are the ongoing effects of colonialism. So the Navajo, 0:31:56.400 --> 0:32:01.440 they already have a high incidence of conditions like diabetes, hypertension, 0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:04.680 lung disease that increase their chances of getting gravely ill 0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:07.600 from the virus. That in the lack of access to 0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:11.560 clean water, hand sanitizer, hospital beds, and medical personnel. It 0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:15.120 all helps like spread and compact and compound the whole situation. 0:32:15.640 --> 0:32:19.640 Racial misclassification and exclusion of Indigenous communities from data sets 0:32:19.640 --> 0:32:22.640 and analysis that are used to make public health policies 0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:26.360 also play a role in this. So Trump appropriated ten 0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:31.040 billion dollars to travel governments after initially resisting but um 0:32:31.080 --> 0:32:34.040 as of now, the Treasury Department tasks but distributing these 0:32:34.040 --> 0:32:37.400 funds has failed to disperse them properly. The CDC initially 0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:42.000 denied tribal epidemiology centers, including the Urban Indian Health Institute, 0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:46.000 access to data about testing and confirmed to COVID nineteen cases, 0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:49.240 even though it was making those data available to states. 0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:52.480 Data collected by tribes, local and state health departments, and 0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:57.760 national agencies are also often inconsistent. The social demographer for 0:32:57.800 --> 0:33:01.160 the University of California and Los Angeles and citizen of 0:33:01.200 --> 0:33:05.480 the Northern Cheyenne Nation, Desis Rodriguez Lone Bear. He said, 0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:08.400 for so long data has been used against our people. 0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:12.120 For example, the U S Census, which begins seventeen ninety, 0:33:12.200 --> 0:33:16.560 excluded American Indians until eighteen sixty and didn't count those 0:33:16.600 --> 0:33:20.120 living on reservations until the nineteen hundreds. The census data 0:33:20.200 --> 0:33:23.240 was then used to justify the invasion of settlements and 0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:26.000 supposedly empty land. And so I feel like again we're 0:33:26.040 --> 0:33:33.720 saying this like this, this uh eurocentric colonialist desire and 0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:38.080 impulse to quantify things and to reduce things into data 0:33:38.280 --> 0:33:41.440 and to like, uh, to be able to you know, 0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:46.360 put things on a fucking biograph as used implicitly as 0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:49.120 a tool for the destruction of people who fall outside 0:33:49.120 --> 0:33:51.960 of that, who don't who don't subscribe to those world views. 0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:54.160 And then if you go off of like the logic 0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:57.840 of blood quantums, it's like, as folks continue to marry 0:33:58.040 --> 0:34:03.120 outside of their tribes or you know, reduce those quantifiable 0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:08.719 like that quantified aple indigenuity among their descendants, are fewer 0:34:08.800 --> 0:34:11.799 and fewer people that technically count as stative American And 0:34:11.840 --> 0:34:14.960 so this thing we're like, oh, you know, since this 0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:17.880 data were used to justify the invagement and settlement of 0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:20.720 these lands because they were supposedly empty, it's like, well, also, 0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:23.840 there's no one to worry about because there are fewer natives, 0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:28.719 because folks, because because according to this uh measurement, there's 0:34:28.760 --> 0:34:30.680 just fewer people that count as members of the tribe. 0:34:30.680 --> 0:34:33.719 And so there's all these ways that like so it's 0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:36.440 like all backhanded, sneaky ship to get out of what 0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:43.640 they owe. There is like sneaky genocide. Damn a whole 0:34:43.640 --> 0:34:51.400 a new flavor genocide, the sneaky brand. Ohleness generess. Okay, 0:34:51.560 --> 0:34:54.040 I'm so sorry. I descride the fact that I like 0:34:54.640 --> 0:34:58.520 grew up around Native cultures in you know, rural North Carolina. 0:34:58.880 --> 0:35:02.120 A watershed moment for me and my sense of solidarity 0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:07.799 with indigenous movements for land protection and tribal sovereignty. Uh 0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:12.040 and for many people UM was the Dapple protests back 0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:17.839 in Yeah, um and so uh. A number of hip 0:35:17.880 --> 0:35:20.799 hop artists also were a part of that movement. UM. 0:35:20.800 --> 0:35:23.800 At the height of standoff between protesters and security police 0:35:23.800 --> 0:35:27.400 forces over the Dakota Access Pipeline, a collection of artists 0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:31.080 in public figures, most of whom are native UM released 0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:33.759 a song and video titled Stand Up, Standing Rock and 0:35:33.800 --> 0:35:36.680 Support of the Movement UM. It was organized by Black 0:35:36.680 --> 0:35:39.080 Eyed Peas or no. It was organized by Taboo of 0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:41.680 the Black Eyed Peas who has sho showny heritage, and 0:35:41.719 --> 0:35:44.239 the song was to promote awareness as well as stand 0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:47.319 as an anthem for Indigenous people across the country. So. 0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:50.440 Some of the artists featured on the track are Flute, 0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:54.160 m c One, Djesus among others. And we're going to 0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:58.319 be checking out a song from Jesus later. So UM. 0:35:58.360 --> 0:36:01.080 From what I gathered from what I was seeing there. 0:36:01.120 --> 0:36:05.120 The most that I could find was like Chance the 0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:08.440 Rapper and some other celebrities. I mean, there were some 0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:11.040 celebrities who were commenting about it, but as far as 0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:13.160 some hip hop ship goes, I think Chance the Rapper 0:36:13.239 --> 0:36:15.120 might have commented on it, but there wasn't too much 0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:20.880 noise being made from the non indigenous rap community. And 0:36:20.920 --> 0:36:25.040 that's a problem. I mean, yeah, we're like we are 0:36:25.080 --> 0:36:29.040 stolen people on stolen land. Like we're all subjects to 0:36:29.080 --> 0:36:35.440 colonialism and our cultural arrature and subjugation, and like we 0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:37.880 got a band together and fight back. I mean, like 0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:41.200 the same people that are telling us to go back 0:36:41.239 --> 0:36:44.879 to Africa, it's like you should go back to you know, man, 0:36:44.960 --> 0:36:49.320 like like we all I don't know, I just feel 0:36:49.320 --> 0:36:51.200 like we all got to get free and so like 0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:56.600 getting Native folks their sovereignty back, like and also you know, 0:36:56.760 --> 0:36:59.719 getting Actually this is something we weren't even gonna get 0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:02.319 into the show. But like there was this woman that 0:37:02.400 --> 0:37:06.120 ran for Congress in Georgia's sixth district by the name 0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:11.080 of Brenda Lopez, who, when asked on a endorsement questionnaire, 0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:13.680 I think for like our revolution or something. Um if 0:37:13.680 --> 0:37:16.359 she's reported reparation. She was like, yeah, as long as 0:37:16.400 --> 0:37:19.279 it includes Native people. They literally had never thought about 0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:23.520 that before. Her Land back is like a movement one 0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:25.880 that I need to learn more about, frankly, but like 0:37:26.000 --> 0:37:30.320 the idea of like the the other forms of loss 0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:35.359 that these folks have incurred, and um, thinking about what 0:37:35.440 --> 0:37:39.200 that means in terms of giving, you know, repairing then 0:37:40.080 --> 0:37:43.799 reparating that. Uh, you know, it makes sense to me. 0:37:43.840 --> 0:37:45.840 It makes sense what that looks like and whether or 0:37:45.880 --> 0:37:50.480 not there is a strong movement for that, like in 0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:53.480 in the in in business communities, Um, what do you 0:37:53.480 --> 0:37:55.680 think down to fight together? I'm going to have you 0:37:55.760 --> 0:37:58.279 back to get your representations too, Like let's do this, 0:37:59.400 --> 0:38:02.040 Like in the hypothetical situation, let's say that it was 0:38:02.080 --> 0:38:04.759 like the government was like, all right, we are going 0:38:04.800 --> 0:38:10.920 to spend the next like three or four years setting 0:38:11.040 --> 0:38:14.600 up the infrastructure to where we can repay some some 0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:18.760 form of restitute of reparations to the Native American community. 0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:20.759 Like do you think that that would open up the 0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:24.160 floodgates for I don't mean floodgates in a bad way, 0:38:24.200 --> 0:38:25.920 but I just mean do you think that would start 0:38:26.040 --> 0:38:30.880 that would like start a new era of Um, I 0:38:30.880 --> 0:38:33.200 guess this reconciliation the right word for it. But do 0:38:33.239 --> 0:38:37.120 you think that like black reparations would be next there, 0:38:37.160 --> 0:38:39.919 American descendants of slave reparations would be next. And then 0:38:40.480 --> 0:38:47.160 like with the domino effect happened in the crackn Be released. Yeah, 0:38:47.320 --> 0:38:49.200 you know what I honestly think would happen if they 0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:53.600 started talking about reparations for indigenous people. Black people would 0:38:53.760 --> 0:38:58.480 torpedo it. Damn. I kind of think you're ready, we 0:38:58.520 --> 0:39:01.080 would go. We would all finding into each other about 0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:03.600 who should get it first, should get it first, and 0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:08.759 the you know, all this quantifying of who we are 0:39:09.000 --> 0:39:13.520 racially based on the one drop and has been so 0:39:13.560 --> 0:39:16.400 effective and in the ways that in the media and 0:39:16.440 --> 0:39:20.359 in our discourse we talk about race has been so 0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:23.640 so effective in dividing us. Like I can't even blame 0:39:23.680 --> 0:39:26.040 people who are wanting to fight each other, because like 0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:28.640 that should have been programmed from on high to the 0:39:28.680 --> 0:39:31.800 point that it's straight up weaved into the fabric of 0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:34.520 the culture. That's by design, Because if we didn't know, 0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:38.480 if we come together, they're fucked. If all of us, 0:39:38.520 --> 0:39:42.279 if the white working class and the gays and all 0:39:42.320 --> 0:39:46.440 of the immigrants and the indigenous folks and we banded 0:39:46.480 --> 0:39:49.440 together and rose up. They would be fucked well, didn't 0:39:49.480 --> 0:39:54.000 want that, so they're like, well, you know, and with that, 0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:57.640 let's uh, let's talk some RAPPI rap rap ship. Let's 0:39:57.680 --> 0:40:12.680 get into the music. So the first rapper up is 0:40:12.920 --> 0:40:17.200 jjesus Uh. He is a Indigenous rapper who's a member 0:40:17.200 --> 0:40:21.759 with the First Nation's Tribe. He's an activist in Calgary, Alberta. 0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:24.560 He gained a good deal of notoriety with the release 0:40:24.600 --> 0:40:27.280 of his two thousand and fourteen album Indian war Path. 0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:30.160 And this is his track war Path. Let's check it 0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:33.640 out and head slide alone and then me let's stab 0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:37.600 funk just through the strongest a death in Genesi. I think, like, 0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:39.960 for me, like the cool thing about it is, I 0:40:40.040 --> 0:40:44.200 like how he's going in about like his culture and 0:40:44.320 --> 0:40:49.600 his heritage and his pupil and ship. But stylistically, stylistically, 0:40:49.640 --> 0:40:52.280 he's doing it as if he was like rapping his set, 0:40:52.719 --> 0:40:54.200 you know what I'm saying. So it's like if you're 0:40:54.239 --> 0:40:57.160 listening to like a rapper who's like a like heavy 0:40:57.239 --> 0:40:59.399 like crip rapper or something like that. Like the way 0:40:59.400 --> 0:41:01.360 that they would be going off for their crew is 0:41:01.400 --> 0:41:03.480 like how he's like going in for his tribe and 0:41:03.520 --> 0:41:06.440 ship in the song I really did that. Yeah, It's 0:41:06.480 --> 0:41:10.239 it's equal parts like commentary on the oppressive conditions that 0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:13.480 they have to deal with as well as like celebration 0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:16.440 of like the arrowheads and the buckskins and the in 0:41:16.480 --> 0:41:19.520 the faith painting and the head dresses and like does 0:41:19.600 --> 0:41:22.120 it does? It does in so many way It's like 0:41:22.960 --> 0:41:26.520 perfectly fit the mold of like modern American hip hop, 0:41:26.760 --> 0:41:31.480 like win sense of like analysis and uplift of like yo, 0:41:31.880 --> 0:41:34.439 while people out here k eat but like we're looking 0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:39.800 at in the real Yeah, I would really admire that. Actually, 0:41:40.320 --> 0:41:43.960 well ship, I mean there's the next one kind of 0:41:44.000 --> 0:41:46.919 takes that concept that you just brought up and kind 0:41:46.920 --> 0:41:51.040 of takes it to the next level. This is um 0:41:51.200 --> 0:41:55.560 by the Snotty Nose rez Kids. This is a track 0:41:55.680 --> 0:41:59.360 called Bougie Natives. Now. The Snotty Nose Red res Kids 0:41:59.360 --> 0:42:01.920 are another kid Nadian group there from the First Nation 0:42:01.920 --> 0:42:06.160 as well. They're hip hop duo composed of Hasler Rapper, 0:42:06.440 --> 0:42:10.520 Young d and Young Tribes. Yeah, they're currently banks in Vancouver. 0:42:12.360 --> 0:42:15.520 He's not the tych movie spelled the Spirit Live Me 0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:19.640 since I was, I mean I love it because like 0:42:19.760 --> 0:42:22.239 the visuals, like you've got all these different kinds of 0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:26.680 people in like in native dress. Some folks look more 0:42:26.800 --> 0:42:34.799 like like typically North American fancy. There're thing going on, 0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:39.719 and they facially look different with regards to the variety 0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:43.640 of different ways to look native like condition to dress. 0:42:44.640 --> 0:42:48.600 I just think that it's really dope representationally because like 0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:51.399 it's not you know, the last video it was sort 0:42:51.440 --> 0:42:54.319 of like there riding horses, they're hanging out in front 0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:57.600 of a h t P. They're like, you know, sator 0:42:57.680 --> 0:43:01.560 of the fire. There's a lot of like there's a 0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:05.919 lot of like ancient uh Native like references and ship 0:43:05.960 --> 0:43:09.880 like the arrowhead and word. But like, you know, it's okay, 0:43:10.040 --> 0:43:12.719 Like I feel like this video is giving license to 0:43:12.840 --> 0:43:15.680 like yo, it's I if you're indigenous and also being 0:43:15.920 --> 0:43:19.800 part of the modern world, you're you're gauge where your gauges, 0:43:19.960 --> 0:43:22.160 and you're you know, like making your tea in a 0:43:22.160 --> 0:43:26.279 little can X boiler thing. I don't know what those 0:43:26.280 --> 0:43:28.680 things are called, you know, I mean listeners, I know 0:43:28.719 --> 0:43:30.000 you know what I'm talking about. I know what you're 0:43:30.040 --> 0:43:34.840 talking about. That. I also, as a linguist, really enjoyed 0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:38.719 what I would. I what I think was like native slang. Yeah, 0:43:38.760 --> 0:43:40.760 I think he was putting a lot of native slang 0:43:40.920 --> 0:43:44.960 and even just some like native words were dispersed through 0:43:44.960 --> 0:43:46.600 the verse and stuff like that. Like he was saying, 0:43:46.680 --> 0:43:49.720 he kept referencing Nietzsche and then he said Netzi please. 0:43:50.320 --> 0:43:53.600 Yeah that made me chuckle. Yeah, Yeah, that's a cool 0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:58.600 it's a cool mixture. I love it when it's gonna 0:43:58.640 --> 0:44:01.400 sound fucked up. But I'm not a linguist like you, 0:44:01.480 --> 0:44:04.560 so I can't word it the same way. But I 0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:11.880 like it when hip hop is appropriated correctly into different cultures, 0:44:11.920 --> 0:44:14.160 you know what I'm saying, Because it's like I don't know, 0:44:14.200 --> 0:44:17.719 it's just like that's just like me that either there's 0:44:17.760 --> 0:44:21.120 certain sorts of like ways of appropriating it into different 0:44:21.160 --> 0:44:24.760 contexts and not even I know the term appropriation is neative, 0:44:25.640 --> 0:44:28.839 different ways of like you know, remixing. I mean hip 0:44:28.880 --> 0:44:31.959 hop it's all about remixing things, and so there's certain 0:44:32.000 --> 0:44:36.920 ways to appropriate to to remix cultural conventions while like 0:44:37.080 --> 0:44:41.080 honoring and like while showing that you are like well 0:44:41.200 --> 0:44:43.520 versed in them. Yeah, exactly what I mean. Like there's 0:44:43.560 --> 0:44:46.480 there's appreparation where it's like you clearly don't know what 0:44:46.520 --> 0:44:49.759 you're talking about exactly. I never felt the preparation was like, 0:44:49.760 --> 0:44:54.120 oh no, you fucking no what what it's good? You 0:44:54.160 --> 0:44:57.000 know me? Or it's like, oh, you remixing ship and 0:44:57.040 --> 0:45:00.839 you clearly love the craft like you know me and 0:45:00.880 --> 0:45:02.799 you know the type of hip hop that I just 0:45:02.920 --> 0:45:05.919 generally listened to for leisure, like the sort of stuff 0:45:05.960 --> 0:45:09.920 that I'm into personally. So that song was definitely a 0:45:09.920 --> 0:45:13.600 bit a bit lighter than the usual ship that I 0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:17.359 like to listen to. But I never felt like I 0:45:17.400 --> 0:45:20.160 was in the hands of posers while it was on. 0:45:20.239 --> 0:45:22.360 You know what I'm saying, Like, the beat is jamming, 0:45:22.880 --> 0:45:26.360 the flow is solid, and it's just like when you 0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:31.080 when you use hip hop to like empower yourself and 0:45:31.160 --> 0:45:34.319 your own identity. I think that's when hip hop is 0:45:34.400 --> 0:45:37.240 like truly like at its peak, you know what I'm saying. 0:45:37.320 --> 0:45:40.080 And they just owned that ship. So I love that. 0:45:40.080 --> 0:45:43.439 That was the dope. Our last song is from JB 0:45:43.640 --> 0:45:47.000 the first lady who helped found the Indigenous hip Hop 0:45:47.040 --> 0:45:50.200 Collective in East Vancouver. There was a key part of 0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:52.600 the growing force of Canadian Indigenous women who are using 0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:55.879 hip hop to standing their power JB. The First Lady 0:45:55.920 --> 0:45:58.640 has songs about suicide and murder of Indigenous women, which 0:45:58.640 --> 0:46:02.400 is a huge issue, know um, particularly in Canada, missing 0:46:02.400 --> 0:46:07.759 and murdered Indigenous women. Like it's just like incredibly disproportioned 0:46:07.800 --> 0:46:10.480 and not being taken seriously by the Canadian government. But 0:46:10.560 --> 0:46:17.000 listens her song still Here. It's truth baden coobiden and shading, 0:46:17.280 --> 0:46:23.560 but you're here. That shows I I really think that 0:46:23.560 --> 0:46:27.600 that is an effective use of a song to bring 0:46:28.360 --> 0:46:32.960 like awareness to a particular issue. Like the refrain of 0:46:33.440 --> 0:46:35.720 the hook is crazy, ye know, the hook is crazy 0:46:35.880 --> 0:46:39.799 and like the whole like it again, like remixes the 0:46:39.920 --> 0:46:43.879 hip hop traditions of like of of critique, but like 0:46:44.080 --> 0:46:46.439 a sense of resilience at the same time, where she's 0:46:46.480 --> 0:46:50.080 like we're still here, drinking water. They are here, we 0:46:50.160 --> 0:46:52.359 have missing mothers and others, but like we still here, 0:46:52.440 --> 0:46:54.600 Like that is the hip the hip hop is ship. 0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:57.960 I never heard, Like there really is no difference in 0:46:58.000 --> 0:47:01.600 the sentiment that she's getting across, like we ain't go 0:47:02.000 --> 0:47:08.320 with nowhere, we go nowhere, same same ship, you know, 0:47:08.480 --> 0:47:11.319 I know, I know that, Like it's gonna sound like 0:47:11.360 --> 0:47:14.359 this is somewhat sexist or something, but I really mean 0:47:14.440 --> 0:47:17.520 this in a purely like a purely craft way, and 0:47:17.560 --> 0:47:20.520 not because they're both women, but her cadence really gave 0:47:20.520 --> 0:47:23.160 me a no name five in the best way, and 0:47:23.239 --> 0:47:27.440 that super unpredictable, like she doesn't have to adhere to 0:47:27.480 --> 0:47:32.040 any sort of like prescribe sense of meter or yeah, 0:47:32.440 --> 0:47:34.640 like or like, I feel like Lila's flow is like 0:47:34.680 --> 0:47:37.240 that too, went in it just did her thing. Doesn't 0:47:37.320 --> 0:47:40.279 Lilas flow feel like it's like that too? Yeah? No, 0:47:40.480 --> 0:47:43.880 that was that was dope. Um, we have one more 0:47:43.920 --> 0:47:45.680 that wasn't the last one. We do have one more 0:47:46.000 --> 0:47:48.719 that I want to get to. This last joint is 0:47:48.840 --> 0:47:53.240 by lightning Cloud. There's a track walk Alone Now. Lightning 0:47:53.280 --> 0:47:55.640 Cloud is an l A based native hip hop duo 0:47:55.719 --> 0:48:01.399 consisting of Christie Lightning and MC red Out. I've known 0:48:01.520 --> 0:48:04.880 about red Cloud for years, Like as a freestyler, he's 0:48:04.920 --> 0:48:08.440 he you know, he's put out some videos that definitely 0:48:08.480 --> 0:48:12.040 from cats who freestyle in battle and ship like that. 0:48:12.160 --> 0:48:15.440 You know, he's definitely has attention to those cats. But 0:48:15.480 --> 0:48:17.560 I didn't know that he was in this group and 0:48:17.600 --> 0:48:20.240 what type of music he made outside of that scene 0:48:20.280 --> 0:48:28.799 in that context. So here's walk Alone. My mom like yo, 0:48:29.239 --> 0:48:38.640 that that beat fucking knacks the vocal intonation like his 0:48:39.040 --> 0:48:41.880 his vocal styling because they're just ill. It reminds us 0:48:41.920 --> 0:48:46.120 of a friend of ours, friend of the show zero. 0:48:47.160 --> 0:48:49.719 But yeah, they have a similar I don't even I 0:48:49.719 --> 0:48:52.400 think it's not even necessarily the cadence, but it's the voice, 0:48:52.560 --> 0:48:56.120 like they're they're coming from the same register. Whisper. Yeah, 0:48:56.239 --> 0:48:59.480 it's like that, that whiskey and cigarettes voice. I don't 0:48:59.520 --> 0:49:03.600 even think. So she smokes Tom Waits was from like 0:49:03.680 --> 0:49:08.680 you know Thompton. Yeah, that's a good one. Besides, she's 0:49:08.680 --> 0:49:11.879 gonna love that ship. But no, that that song was dope. 0:49:11.880 --> 0:49:14.960 It seemed to be like sort of almost a p 0:49:15.120 --> 0:49:18.520 s A about homelessness. And from what I could tell 0:49:18.560 --> 0:49:22.680 from the video was was that Las Vegas look like 0:49:22.760 --> 0:49:26.279 Vegas to me. But yeah, it could have been l 0:49:26.320 --> 0:49:28.680 a that could have been good around that is true. Well, 0:49:29.040 --> 0:49:30.960 before we wrap it up, I do just want to 0:49:31.000 --> 0:49:35.520 give like a little honorable mentions list of some other 0:49:35.840 --> 0:49:38.920 indigenous hip hop artist just because we don't have enough 0:49:38.960 --> 0:49:41.719 time to go through everybody to do a snippet of everybody, 0:49:41.760 --> 0:49:44.919 but shout out you guys should check out deaf One 0:49:45.840 --> 0:49:52.680 Helen Back, West Coast Grizz Superman um an illustrated mess 0:49:53.320 --> 0:49:58.640 uh phrase complexity. Lots of fresh Indigenous artists out there 0:49:58.680 --> 0:50:01.560 for you all to check out. But that's gonna wrap 0:50:01.600 --> 0:50:04.640 it up for us this week. I think we are 0:50:04.719 --> 0:50:08.000 going to close this off a little bit more of 0:50:08.000 --> 0:50:12.240 a special way since you guys hear us enough. Instead 0:50:12.239 --> 0:50:14.719 of us giving you guys that wraps the close off 0:50:14.719 --> 0:50:17.759 the show, We're gonna bring back Lila June to do 0:50:17.800 --> 0:50:20.879 one of her acapella pieces for y'all. And so Nope, 0:50:20.920 --> 0:50:29.600 I'm super excited for y'all. Hear it, yo hit us? Yes? Okay, Um, 0:50:29.760 --> 0:50:35.000 hopefully my beatbox doesn't sound weird in this little microphone. Um. 0:50:41.000 --> 0:50:44.000 We were all given sacred duties to this land. Take 0:50:44.080 --> 0:50:46.640 care of Mother Earth, and she will help you understand 0:50:46.719 --> 0:50:49.680 that everything we need is in the palm of her hand. 0:50:49.760 --> 0:50:53.560 No need to drill, mind, conquer or extract. With faith 0:50:53.600 --> 0:50:55.839 in the Creator, we will blaze a brand new path 0:50:55.960 --> 0:50:58.520 when we let go a through the greed turns into 0:50:58.680 --> 0:51:02.040 left unity of all people. That is what we're after. 0:51:02.200 --> 0:51:04.560 I'm cruising down the Red Road with sweet grass on 0:51:04.600 --> 0:51:07.320 my dashboard. Used to drug and drink but now I'm sober. 0:51:07.400 --> 0:51:10.440 Now I'm faster, sharp as attack. He told me, can't 0:51:10.440 --> 0:51:18.760 hold me back now. Yeah, I just want to build 0:51:18.760 --> 0:51:21.920 a new world for my children with love, prayer and unity. 0:51:22.000 --> 0:51:25.640 This nation is rebuilding up from the ash of genocide 0:51:25.680 --> 0:51:29.440 and division. Red, black, yellow, white, as one. That's the vision. 0:51:29.760 --> 0:51:34.160 Every race participates in this new beginning. Sacred is the masculine, 0:51:34.200 --> 0:51:39.120 and sacred is the feminine, infinite, indigenous, continuous, deliberate. Nothing 0:51:39.200 --> 0:51:41.800 can stop the people once they got their intentions that. 0:51:42.120 --> 0:51:47.320 Some people say that the land can be owned. Trip 0:51:48.280 --> 0:51:54.120 Some people say that the land can be owned. But 0:51:54.400 --> 0:51:57.280 deep in our hearts, we know that isn't so, because 0:51:57.440 --> 0:52:00.160 we don't even own this flesh, show this bone. No, 0:52:00.320 --> 0:52:03.120 we can't take it with us on the soul's journey home. No, 0:52:03.280 --> 0:52:05.680 the only thing we own is the lessons that we 0:52:05.719 --> 0:52:08.560 know when we wake from the slumber to remember we 0:52:08.640 --> 0:52:12.279 are one, one beautiful people, under one beautiful son. We 0:52:12.400 --> 0:52:15.520 must also release all claims to the earth, because she 0:52:15.600 --> 0:52:22.200 don't belong to us, should we belong to her? That 0:52:22.400 --> 0:52:27.200 is Dope super Fresh, Thanks for tuning in on'm Lingua Franca, 0:52:27.680 --> 0:52:31.239 I'm dope knife, and we are waiting on reparations for 0:52:31.320 --> 0:52:35.200 our native brothers and sisters too, So hurry out and 0:52:35.280 --> 0:52:41.040 see y'all next week. M hmm. Waiting on Reparations as 0:52:41.080 --> 0:52:43.759 a production of I Heart Radio. Listen to Waiting on 0:52:43.840 --> 0:52:47.279 Reparations on the I heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or 0:52:47.280 --> 0:52:48.719 wherever you get your podcasts.