WEBVTT - EP 81: International Madam 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:05.920 When I write y'all all across the USC conton mates. 0:00:06.519 --> 0:00:10.960 Thank to al A from on the California the Valleys. 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:14.360 We said that kill of county. So if you're keeping 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:17.000 it real on your side of your town, you tune 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:21.760 into gangster Chronicles, Gangs, the Run the Goals. He gonna 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:25.239 tell you how we go. If I lie my nose 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:27.560 a girl like Pokio, We're gonna tell you that choosing 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:30.880 nothing but the truth. Thanks to Run the Goals. This 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:34.879 is not your average show. You're now tuned into the 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:39.360 Reil m c A, Bick James and Bix Stills from 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:46.120 the streets. Hello, people call the Madam. I call the 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:49.920 Pipper Pipper, don't you call it? You call it the 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:53.240 Pipper Pipper, the pepper Pepper, you know, the Pipper, his pipper. 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:55.360 And she was pimping all over the world. What's happening. 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:58.520 Her name is Nina's Dany, and she's writing out with 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:00.600 us live all the way and went in my right. 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:05.440 Yes that's right, everybody, Thank you for having me. What's good? 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:07.560 What's good? It is it cold over there? It is 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:10.000 it's November, so it's kind of like New York weather. 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:13.280 I've been in Switzerland about two or three times, so 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:15.800 I know it gets real cold over there, so I'm 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:18.520 just checking in on that weather. So I know COVID 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:22.679 right now, nobody traveling, but usually I'll be overseas around 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:25.960 this time traveling and Switzerland is one of my spots 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:30.119 I usually hit, all right Z Yeah, yeah, that's for sure, 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:32.640 for sure. So we got a lot of stuff to 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:35.120 go through. You were what they would call a madam 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:38.160 and my correct would that be in the correct assumption? Yeah, 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:41.600 that's right, madam. I read the escort service and the 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:45.679 events and stuff parties, private party and special parties, special parties. 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:48.800 We went on at those parties a lot of freakuments 0:01:50.360 --> 0:01:53.000 in the States and not like over here in Europe 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:55.200 because over here I had a broad though and SNV 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:58.720 club side Mazo and the escort service. So in the 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:01.680 States would usually be the Wall Street guys. Uh, ten 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:04.320 guys get together and I have to figure out some 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:10.720 special ways of you know, I entertain them. Okay, So 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:13.880 for the people out there that's kind of square that 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:20.000 don't know what that's, um, what does it mean? Saddle masochism? Yeah, 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:23.960 so basically the woman can be the domina and dominate 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:27.320 the man or the other way around. Oh wow, that's 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:29.799 some freaky ship right there. You know, that's some real 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:32.120 life ship. Should you usually see on a porno or 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:36.400 some ship like that? Your motherfucker's usually really acting shipped 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:39.200 out like that? That that that's crazy ship? Is that 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:43.280 something like like putting candles on your nibbles and ships? 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:48.360 That's vanilla right there. But it's yeah, I mean, pain 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:50.920 is pleasures and for some people, right, but there's different 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:53.000 ways and I've learned a lot about it as well. 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:55.639 I'm not a domina, but I ran the club over here, 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:57.720 so I had to do all the courses because the 0:02:57.760 --> 0:03:00.400 police controls it. Basically, you gotta do it the colma 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:03.200 and you gotta get the license for it. So I 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:06.640 have to give help. So if someone is bleeding proposing, 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:08.560 like you know, I have to help them. You know 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:13.440 that they don't die. But yeah, yeah, and it has 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:15.800 to be very sanitary. How did you how do you 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:19.160 how do you form? Like? Like, how do you get 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:23.120 into building a client base or you know, building or 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:25.760 getting the girls or whatever? What? What? What is the 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:32.560 method to building a successful establishment like that? Right? Um? 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:36.560 First of all, I had different websites with different like Uh, 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:38.960 ways like to be on Google. Then of course you 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:41.680 have different sites where you can promote. And then I 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:44.040 have very good girls because I give the girls more 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:47.320 than anyone else. So for an example, everything that's extra 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:50.120 that goes in the girl's pocket, and I asked them 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:53.720 even to charge extremely high. So I have better girls 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:56.920 than others. And client service is very important to me. 0:03:57.040 --> 0:03:59.360 So I'm not just taking any girl. She has to 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:03.520 be always very polite, very clean, very pretty, know what 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:06.240 she's doing, and the clients just know they can rely 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:08.440 on it. There's not gonna be a girl who tells 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:10.960 them like hurry up, hurry up or whatever, it's not happening, 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:13.360 you know. So, but that you can definitely build a 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:16.880 client base. The girls look like the ones on the pictures, uh, 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:19.720 and the services is good, so that way you can 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:22.920 do so pretty much. It was a lot of fake 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:24.839 and go on a lot of fake moaning and stuff 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:28.160 because they were with these old old fan dudes. They 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:29.920 wasn't putting in our work, so it's just a lot 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:31.640 of fake and they made them feel like real men. 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:35.800 And basically that's what you're saying, right m hm. Definitely, 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:37.960 but you know some people, they really are into it. 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:39.760 So it's like, and that's something I want to bring 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:42.800 out now in the movie and in my documentary. So 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:46.520 prostitution always sounds like it's dirty and it's disgusting, and 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:48.880 the women who do it have to do it. A 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:50.840 lot of women they actually want to do it because 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:52.719 they might want to make a thousand dollars an hour, 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:54.520 and I think a lot of them want to and 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:57.520 they on free will, like no one tells them what 0:04:57.600 --> 0:04:59.360 to do, how to do it. They can come and 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:02.240 leave asi please, are just a very simple rules you know, 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:05.599 they have to go by. But it's an environment that 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:07.839 you know, women can make a lot of money and 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:11.880 they are safe there because I have safety ways. You 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:17.760 know how how I protect my women? Yeah, go ahead, dreams. Well, 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:19.960 I just want to know how you got into it 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:26.400 being a small woman and a very dangerous business. You 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:31.760 know what I'm saying, How did you survive? No, well, 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:35.560 we're in prison and just running a business like that. 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:38.560 What happens when you get a man that that's drunk 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:42.160 full of itself and not like in the service, How 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:46.200 do you control that a small woman? Yeah? Yeah, so 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:48.560 this is the thing I never had. I have security 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:51.239 people around me, if there's really like a dangerous usually 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:53.960 it's just a driver that's a security. Um. But what 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:56.120 I usually did is if a guy didn't want to pay, 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:59.760 usually have to pay upfront anyway, if there's any issue, UM, 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:01.920 I will go by. And I would never say I'm 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:04.120 the one who run it. I'm the messenger. So I 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:06.000 never said I'm the one who runs it, because what 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:07.919 I'm gonna do if someone wants to, like, you know, 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:10.360 do something to me, they can. I always say, well, 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:13.400 I'm just a messenger. UM, I'll give you your money back. 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:15.760 But when my boss is coming back from Russia, his 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:18.640 name is Ivan or Igor, you can deal with him. 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:21.000 So it's fine. And usually these guys who pay all 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:23.400 this money, they don't want to deal with that, you know, 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:25.560 because you know, they have usually a certain position or 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:29.280 they gotta if they if they hear Russia or Russia mob, 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:32.880 they always they back off. And usually you know, even 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:34.680 though I don't even know it, because I wouldn't tell 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:37.520 people I'm the one who runs it. I just always say, well, 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:40.400 the boss is coming in, do this, do that, or 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:43.000 you know, if not, he's gonna be mad. And there 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:45.600 was never no one around so but that way I 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:48.680 kind of headed off my back, you know, people want 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:51.440 to do. And then at the same time, if someone 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:54.840 called the police, they can we are going because it's 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:56.760 legal for you to, you know, and a lot of 0:06:56.880 --> 0:07:00.479 people have positions they can't afford that. Yeah, so you 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:04.920 pretty much played mind games with a limb. Yeah, exactly, 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:07.479 That's what it is, you know, And that's what I 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:09.359 wanted to do. James text on a good point. I 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:12.400 wanted to go back to the beginning. So you started 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:16.120 off in New York City, right right back to the beginning. 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:19.160 How you got in the game. Right. So when I 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:21.080 came to New York first, I was twenty years old 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:23.800 with no visa, just a tourist visa, and I was 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:27.800 telling watches first Swiss company, and that company moved to 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:30.080 Hong Kong, and I was I didn't want to go there. 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:33.360 So I thought of like, how can I pay this apartment? 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:35.160 Because I lived in the Diamond District. It was three 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:37.800 thousand a month the little apartment that it was cash. 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:40.120 So I worked in the strip club for like three 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:43.160 months and I figured out the language, like the English 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:45.280 got better, and I met a girl that had like 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:48.200 his backpage girls and she was like you know, picking 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:51.080 them out off the street and giving them housing. So 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:53.880 my thought was, how about to start networking and all 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:57.200 the Italians already that will go to Ciprianis and all 0:07:57.240 --> 0:08:00.040 these places. I started picking up girls and then I 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.200 had this one thing like they had a lot of 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:05.480 apartments in the Diamonds, but there was actually office building. 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:08.160 So I rented all the apartments and putting girls from 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:10.640 Switzerland already worked in a bratto, so they know how 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:13.400 to work, and they had a three months, changed them 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:16.800 all the time. Then Airbnb came up. I got different ideas, 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:19.840 rented these like every month, had changed the place, and 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:21.640 I went out to network and I just gave out 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:24.680 my card and then one guy um you know, says, 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:27.480 oh it was an amazing it was great women. There's 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:30.160 another friend, you know, like word of mouth basically, and 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:32.560 with that I built it up within like nine months, 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:38.000 had girls I had. It was it was getting busy, 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:39.840 but I was always out, like six days a night. 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:41.959 I was playing golf. I went into the charity event. 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:43.760 I went to the guard bars, you know where all 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:46.439 the let's say, old rich men why you know. Or 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:49.960 then Wall Street came in and Wall Street was Friday 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:52.480 to Sunday through it. So and then I had some 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:55.760 a reps and I had international clients. So it was 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:59.160 building it by itself slowly and kind of fast as well, 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:01.640 because I was one and when I started by by 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:05.240 twenty two, I was pretty much yeah, established, So I 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:07.520 figured out the game. But how I got into it, 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:09.600 it's really my best friend. She was working since a 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:12.679 young age because she really loves this job. Um. And 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:15.000 she was making so much money. And in the script club, 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:16.880 I would just give a clients and she would give 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:19.320 me a commission for it. And I saw my telling 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:23.440 this talking, just talking people out of their money, um. 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:26.360 And and but that way I was seeing, Okay, what 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:29.040 do guys don't like? So they call services and the 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:32.400 girl is ugly, Um, maybe she don't look right, she stays, 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:34.760 she doesn't know what she's doing. And and then I 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:37.360 had in professional women. They look beautiful, they don't care, 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:40.280 they work and they will do their best. Um. So 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:42.760 I started doing it like that. Then my friend, the 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:46.200 Italian guy, he had a model agency. So all these 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:48.640 models wanted to make money, and and I had some 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:52.640 college girls. I started getting into the policition and for politicians, 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:56.040 I had one that basically trusted me, and then he, 0:09:56.520 --> 0:09:58.080 you know, gave me a whole lot of more clients 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:05.320 straight out of California. The Gangster Chronicle with James made 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:15.560 Steal Steal James eight. Yeah, nigga, better give me my 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:18.480 fire Donald, I put that on the ship. I need 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:21.960 to go give me some Watermera. My motherfucking feet fucking 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:25.600 with me. Gangs the chronic because of my ass. Hey, granny, 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:29.560 help money, Just gangster granny. Y'all know me. Why are 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:33.640 you at? So that way I established myself pretty nice 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:35.560 as a certain time. At the same time, I was 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:37.680 working in the music business because I really wanted to 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:41.120 manage and book tours, so I did. I booked some 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:44.280 people for overseas, and I did an internship with Sony 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:46.880 and uh yeah, in the music business, I just gave 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:50.000 them drugs and women's for favors. So that way I 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:53.080 got favorite small class of people. And they know, they 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:55.360 don't mind if I come to the studio and bring 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:58.640 them drugs, right, I mean they I'm not gonna rob them, 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:01.400 I'm not gonna film them. I'm always reliable. So we 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:05.600 became friends, you know, so favors and that way it worked. 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:10.800 Out pretty well for me in the beginning. Yeah, I 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:16.080 know you change, no Joe, how did you wind up impresion? Well, 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:19.560 this is the thing, um, my mistake was I saw, 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:22.600 especially in ball Street, everyone wants to get high. So 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:24.160 I had a guy that I would just send to 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:26.280 the client and he would make money and whatever. I 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:29.160 didn't want anything from that. And then he started getting unreliable. 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:32.040 And if I don't have drugs by five six am, 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.280 he's gonna maybe do an hour instead of ten hours, 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:36.880 or a day or two days. So I got myself 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:39.400 a connecting New York and I just started buying my 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:41.800 own drugs and bringing it to the clients. But I 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:44.400 wouldn't even like. I didn't mix it up. I didn't 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:46.959 like really he said, if you do three hours, I 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:49.000 gave you two baggage for free. I don't care, right, 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:52.199 it's just you have to take the book her. So 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:54.880 I got even better, connecting better connect So by the 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:57.280 end that was pretty much by the by the first 0:11:57.280 --> 0:12:00.920 connect um with the Columbians, that was with that, and 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:03.360 that I would still there not touch the stuff. I 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:05.319 would just back it up, give you one point one 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:08.440 one point two for free, or four hundreds you know whatever. 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:10.920 So and then I had, of course other friends. They 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:13.200 wanted to have some stuff. So with time I was 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:16.240 probably selling like almost a quilo a month, just with 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:19.320 little baggage here and there, you know. And how I 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:21.800 got into prison was someone that I called the Big 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:26.280 Brother uh in the former Bad Boy associated and stay 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:29.600 Um he goes by name from Paul ex bodyguard. He 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:34.640 um set me up. Unfore with the fats go back. 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:39.600 So Uncle probably from Bad Boy, turns you in. Well 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:43.080 what happened is this. I was extremely naive. I trust him. 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:49.160 Um didn't understand switching on, didn't understand the streets at all. Right, Well, 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:51.280 and and basically he said I need a favor, and 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:53.240 I said, I can't do you the favor. I can't 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:55.120 give you a connect because they won't like talk to you. 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:57.640 Only talk to me because I'm really reliable and I'm 0:12:57.679 --> 0:13:01.360 engaged to somebody. Um. And the end of the day, 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:03.079 I'm I will do the drop, but I do it 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:05.080 only once I do want favor for you, and I 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:07.520 can't do it after because it's now. I was afraid 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:09.920 to be rapt because I didn't then I'm gonna be 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:12.560 or I maybe get beat up or something. So I 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:15.720 said at the one and I saw it to under 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:20.680 over the US me too, and of course there was 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:22.640 the you know, and I was in shocking, like why 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:24.360 are they coming up for me like that? I was 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:26.400 on a and we were in a sushi spot on 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:29.079 the Upper east Side, like a fancy place, and we 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:31.760 were sitting down and he says, I have the money 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:34.000 really loud, and I packed the drugs off like a gift. 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:36.959 He was right after Christmas in two thousand twelve, and 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:40.160 uh when he said that, and she saw he was shaking. 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:42.400 And then I turned around and I see the lights 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:44.400 and it was like, you know, the whole d A, 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:47.600 the FBI, NYPD, they all turned up and they just 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:49.040 you know, I was I was like, they were not 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:51.760 here for me, so I'm trying to walk out. They're like, no, 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:54.559 they gotcha. So they put me handkles, give me on 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:58.160 my rights, and I just know when someone retail around, 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:01.200 it's a bad time, so I'm guess. So then they 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:04.240 went to my house. Um, they knew just everything that 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:06.480 he basically knew, But at that point I still didn't 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:09.720 know it was him because I didn't know the snitching 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:12.200 that it's not being possible over here, we don't. It 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:16.600 doesn't work like here like that, you know. So then, um, 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:19.200 when when I saw the whole thing in front, like 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:21.520 you know, I went into the courtroom and stuff. I 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:23.720 had no co defendant, so the guy was always a 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:26.720 d A UM on the cover and he was there 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:28.560 as well with the you know, when we had all 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:30.280 these talks with the d a So they wanted me 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:33.560 to snitch. And at that point, I think for me 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:35.840 even on not from the streets, but it's just I 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:38.480 funked up and I take the plane. So I took 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:40.080 the blame from anyone in the house because it was 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:42.760 my house on top of that, and you know, and 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:45.160 he to me like, you're gonna do twenty five years, 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:47.120 twenty four years, go right now, you gotta do the 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:49.040 twenty five years. And I'm like, well, I'm just gonna 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:51.960 get a lawyer, you know. So in the end, um, 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:53.720 they had to like throw out a lot of stuff 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:55.600 from their rest because it wasn't correct. So I was 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:58.360 lasting disguise, but I still had to do time. You know. 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:00.760 I definitely had to take a deal at one point, 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:02.760 and I couldn't go to trial because I would lose, 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:07.240 you know. And he never got arrested, uncle Poli. And 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:09.320 of course, I mean on my part, my side, no 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:11.400 one gets arrested you. So I just took the blame. 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:14.760 And I think he counted that I would switch, you know, 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:16.680 so that he will be out of the thing. And 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:18.880 while I was imprisoned, a lot of people came up 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:23.000 to me for me like he's known for. It's not 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:25.640 I'm not here to retaliate or like you know. I 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:27.600 just feel like people was deal with him right now. 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:31.360 Sure at least no, um, that's been anything that I 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:33.080 went through. That's the only thing I really want to do. 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:39.960 So he basically introduced you to the undercover yes, and 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:42.880 he never got he would know right and he would 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:47.120 get arrested for conspiracy, but he never did. Okay, And 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:50.760 of course my my fiance got arrested as well. And 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:53.680 then he came out because I took the blame even 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:56.120 to him, and he said, well, things happened like that, 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:58.040 but now you have to make money. You want to 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:00.720 do another deal tonight, I can get up for you 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:04.240 nobody from the streets. But no, the guy just got arrested, 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:06.400 came out of the fetes, and it's gonna offer him 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:08.760 a deal. Because he knows he will be watched, you know, 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:13.200 and my excellent he's he's from the streets. He was 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:16.600 a forward. He kind of explained it to me how 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:18.840 that works, and I was like, I couldn't believe it, 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:22.080 you know, but it was definitely clear what it was. 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:26.200 M M Joe. Your fiance walked, You took the time. 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:31.360 Did you marry him? No? Did you marry you try? No? 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:35.560 Now the thing is after time, me getting deported, you know, 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:38.280 because I took the deportation that I can do less time. 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:40.320 You know, so if it's a non violent crime, I 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:42.400 can do two years and I get deported, and over 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:45.080 here the law is so lenient, you know, I'm free. 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:47.240 So I took that instead of doing a whole lot 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:50.600 more time. And after that he got another little charge. 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:52.480 He couldn't leave the country. So then well be looking 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:55.400 at three and a half years not seeing each other. Um, 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:57.800 you know so, but we still got friends to this day. 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:01.520 All right, Okay, yeah, because you know he had a 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:04.720 Sholotte one, He had a Sholotte one on his team, 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:08.359 and for you to take that time and do it, 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:12.480 but then they deported you, right, all right, But what 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:14.360 what's the best thing for me to do. Imagine I'm 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:17.680 doing all this time, probably still get deported or I'll 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:20.560 be stuck in the States and I can't get nowhere, 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:23.439 you know, being a fellon. Um, yeah, I don't know. 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:25.040 So I just I've had to come back here because 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:27.760 it's good. It's not as much fun as the State, 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:31.399 but it's like it's a good country, you know. I 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:35.800 let me ask you a question. So, like James said, 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:39.639 you're not You're not the toughest person in the world. 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:41.280 You know what I mean. You're a woman, you know 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:42.800 what I mean. You look like a model, you know 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:46.960 what I'm saying. So, what's the weirdest thing that you've 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:49.119 ever seen? Like, like, what's the thing that freaked you 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:51.800 out the most? Working the problem? Like what's the freakiest 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:55.240 thing you ever had somebody asked to get done to them? Um? 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:58.560 In the States are here in Switzerland. I know when 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:01.600 Switz nor either play back, there's probably some difference ship 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:09.080 going on in Switzerland Switzerland. In Switzerland, someone asked me, Um, 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:12.000 if I could get a rat that's a life that 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:15.040 someone can put that in his bottom? Uh, And I 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:18.159 said no, because there could kill him and he The 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:21.280 right is in his bottom, so I couldn't do that. 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:22.919 But it was like the weird because he know he 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:24.639 would die and I don't want to know that body 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:30.280 and my brother. So somebody, what's that guy? Hey? No, 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:35.840 what's that guy? The singer with the big mouth? Uh? 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:39.040 Is it Mick Jagger? I don't want to say. I 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:41.240 don't want to get the name wrong. But I had 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:45.880 Gerbil put up his ass. I think that was that 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:48.240 was that Richard Gear. Yeah, I think I was the 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:52.840 actor exactly. Okay, it's the same thing as a rat, 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:55.760 but I want to want to gerbil up the ass. 0:18:55.800 --> 0:19:00.880 But that way people, you you would never. No, man, 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:03.560 there's some crazy motherfucker's in the world. I mean because 0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:05.679 we see it every day. I mean you catch it 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:07.680 on the news a few times. I mean you got 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:11.320 motherfucker's who killed people, killed kids. Do some just weird ship, 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:13.680 But you know when it comes to sexual ship, it's 0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:17.800 weird motherfucker's out there. They called me weird because I 0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:22.080 was introduced to the candle ship. I told you ain't 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:27.840 been just hot blacky. I would tell you boy that 0:19:27.960 --> 0:19:31.400 she had me so right that wax on my nipples 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:39.640 and ship. I was in it, mother and James said, 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:42.840 ship I got introduced to that hot cator wax. It 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:47.160 was it was craph You know some women, some women 0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:49.800 like to be choked, you know what I'm saying. And 0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:53.159 I gotta get out of that type of ship choking 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:57.119 you want, you know what I'm saying. And it was 0:19:57.400 --> 0:20:01.280 it was different and and it was it was cool. 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:05.000 It was cool. So going into that and then you know, 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:08.119 you can go and have a woman do what what 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:11.560 you desire, what what your pleasures are that I mean, 0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:16.399 and that's that's that's kind of like I mean, I 0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:19.760 guess when I guess, everybody got their pleasure meters, my nigga, 0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:21.320 you know what I'm saying, And it goes to what 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:25.119 level that that your pleasure meeter reaches, you know, because 0:20:25.400 --> 0:20:28.960 you can get yourself into some different kind of ship 0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:34.000 when it comes to right now, Yeah, that's a little 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:36.800