1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: When I write y'all all across the USC conton mates. 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: Thank to al A from on the California the Valleys. 3 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: We said that kill of county. So if you're keeping 4 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: it real on your side of your town, you tune 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 1: into gangster Chronicles, Gangs, the Run the Goals. He gonna 6 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: tell you how we go. If I lie my nose 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: a girl like Pokio, We're gonna tell you that choosing 8 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: nothing but the truth. Thanks to Run the Goals. This 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 1: is not your average show. You're now tuned into the 10 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: Reil m c A, Bick James and Bix Stills from 11 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: the streets. Hello, people call the Madam. I call the 12 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: Pipper Pipper, don't you call it? You call it the 13 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: Pipper Pipper, the pepper Pepper, you know, the Pipper, his pipper. 14 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: And she was pimping all over the world. What's happening. 15 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: Her name is Nina's Dany, and she's writing out with 16 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: us live all the way and went in my right. 17 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: Yes that's right, everybody, Thank you for having me. What's good? 18 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: What's good? It is it cold over there? It is 19 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: it's November, so it's kind of like New York weather. 20 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: I've been in Switzerland about two or three times, so 21 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: I know it gets real cold over there, so I'm 22 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: just checking in on that weather. So I know COVID 23 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: right now, nobody traveling, but usually I'll be overseas around 24 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 1: this time traveling and Switzerland is one of my spots 25 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 1: I usually hit, all right Z Yeah, yeah, that's for sure, 26 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: for sure. So we got a lot of stuff to 27 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: go through. You were what they would call a madam 28 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: and my correct would that be in the correct assumption? Yeah, 29 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: that's right, madam. I read the escort service and the 30 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: events and stuff parties, private party and special parties, special parties. 31 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: We went on at those parties a lot of freakuments 32 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: in the States and not like over here in Europe 33 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: because over here I had a broad though and SNV 34 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: club side Mazo and the escort service. So in the 35 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: States would usually be the Wall Street guys. Uh, ten 36 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: guys get together and I have to figure out some 37 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: special ways of you know, I entertain them. Okay, So 38 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: for the people out there that's kind of square that 39 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: don't know what that's, um, what does it mean? Saddle masochism? Yeah, 40 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: so basically the woman can be the domina and dominate 41 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: the man or the other way around. Oh wow, that's 42 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: some freaky ship right there. You know, that's some real 43 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: life ship. Should you usually see on a porno or 44 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: some ship like that? Your motherfucker's usually really acting shipped 45 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: out like that? That that that's crazy ship? Is that 46 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: something like like putting candles on your nibbles and ships? 47 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: That's vanilla right there. But it's yeah, I mean, pain 48 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: is pleasures and for some people, right, but there's different 49 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: ways and I've learned a lot about it as well. 50 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: I'm not a domina, but I ran the club over here, 51 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: so I had to do all the courses because the 52 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: police controls it. Basically, you gotta do it the colma 53 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: and you gotta get the license for it. So I 54 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: have to give help. So if someone is bleeding proposing, 55 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: like you know, I have to help them. You know 56 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: that they don't die. But yeah, yeah, and it has 57 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: to be very sanitary. How did you how do you 58 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: how do you form? Like? Like, how do you get 59 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: into building a client base or you know, building or 60 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: getting the girls or whatever? What? What? What is the 61 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: method to building a successful establishment like that? Right? Um? 62 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: First of all, I had different websites with different like Uh, 63 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: ways like to be on Google. Then of course you 64 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: have different sites where you can promote. And then I 65 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: have very good girls because I give the girls more 66 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: than anyone else. So for an example, everything that's extra 67 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: that goes in the girl's pocket, and I asked them 68 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: even to charge extremely high. So I have better girls 69 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: than others. And client service is very important to me. 70 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: So I'm not just taking any girl. She has to 71 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: be always very polite, very clean, very pretty, know what 72 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: she's doing, and the clients just know they can rely 73 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: on it. There's not gonna be a girl who tells 74 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: them like hurry up, hurry up or whatever, it's not happening, 75 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: you know. So, but that you can definitely build a 76 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: client base. The girls look like the ones on the pictures, uh, 77 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: and the services is good, so that way you can 78 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: do so pretty much. It was a lot of fake 79 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: and go on a lot of fake moaning and stuff 80 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: because they were with these old old fan dudes. They 81 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: wasn't putting in our work, so it's just a lot 82 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: of fake and they made them feel like real men. 83 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: And basically that's what you're saying, right m hm. Definitely, 84 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: but you know some people, they really are into it. 85 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: So it's like, and that's something I want to bring 86 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: out now in the movie and in my documentary. So 87 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: prostitution always sounds like it's dirty and it's disgusting, and 88 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: the women who do it have to do it. A 89 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 1: lot of women they actually want to do it because 90 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: they might want to make a thousand dollars an hour, 91 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: and I think a lot of them want to and 92 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: they on free will, like no one tells them what 93 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: to do, how to do it. They can come and 94 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: leave asi please, are just a very simple rules you know, 95 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 1: they have to go by. But it's an environment that 96 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: you know, women can make a lot of money and 97 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: they are safe there because I have safety ways. You 98 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: know how how I protect my women? Yeah, go ahead, dreams. Well, 99 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: I just want to know how you got into it 100 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: being a small woman and a very dangerous business. You 101 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, How did you survive? No, well, 102 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: we're in prison and just running a business like that. 103 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: What happens when you get a man that that's drunk 104 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: full of itself and not like in the service, How 105 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: do you control that a small woman? Yeah? Yeah, so 106 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: this is the thing I never had. I have security 107 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,239 Speaker 1: people around me, if there's really like a dangerous usually 108 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: it's just a driver that's a security. Um. But what 109 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: I usually did is if a guy didn't want to pay, 110 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: usually have to pay upfront anyway, if there's any issue, UM, 111 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: I will go by. And I would never say I'm 112 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: the one who run it. I'm the messenger. So I 113 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: never said I'm the one who runs it, because what 114 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do if someone wants to, like, you know, 115 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: do something to me, they can. I always say, well, 116 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: I'm just a messenger. UM, I'll give you your money back. 117 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: But when my boss is coming back from Russia, his 118 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: name is Ivan or Igor, you can deal with him. 119 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: So it's fine. And usually these guys who pay all 120 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: this money, they don't want to deal with that, you know, 121 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: because you know, they have usually a certain position or 122 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: they gotta if they if they hear Russia or Russia mob, 123 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: they always they back off. And usually you know, even 124 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: though I don't even know it, because I wouldn't tell 125 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: people I'm the one who runs it. I just always say, well, 126 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: the boss is coming in, do this, do that, or 127 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: you know, if not, he's gonna be mad. And there 128 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: was never no one around so but that way I 129 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: kind of headed off my back, you know, people want 130 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: to do. And then at the same time, if someone 131 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: called the police, they can we are going because it's 132 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: legal for you to, you know, and a lot of 133 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: people have positions they can't afford that. Yeah, so you 134 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: pretty much played mind games with a limb. Yeah, exactly, 135 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 1: That's what it is, you know, And that's what I 136 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: wanted to do. James text on a good point. I 137 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: wanted to go back to the beginning. So you started 138 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: off in New York City, right right back to the beginning. 139 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: How you got in the game. Right. So when I 140 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: came to New York first, I was twenty years old 141 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: with no visa, just a tourist visa, and I was 142 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: telling watches first Swiss company, and that company moved to 143 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: Hong Kong, and I was I didn't want to go there. 144 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: So I thought of like, how can I pay this apartment? 145 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: Because I lived in the Diamond District. It was three 146 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: thousand a month the little apartment that it was cash. 147 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: So I worked in the strip club for like three 148 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: months and I figured out the language, like the English 149 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: got better, and I met a girl that had like 150 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: his backpage girls and she was like you know, picking 151 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: them out off the street and giving them housing. So 152 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: my thought was, how about to start networking and all 153 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: the Italians already that will go to Ciprianis and all 154 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 1: these places. I started picking up girls and then I 155 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: had this one thing like they had a lot of 156 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: apartments in the Diamonds, but there was actually office building. 157 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: So I rented all the apartments and putting girls from 158 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: Switzerland already worked in a bratto, so they know how 159 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: to work, and they had a three months, changed them 160 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: all the time. Then Airbnb came up. I got different ideas, 161 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: rented these like every month, had changed the place, and 162 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: I went out to network and I just gave out 163 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: my card and then one guy um you know, says, 164 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: oh it was an amazing it was great women. There's 165 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: another friend, you know, like word of mouth basically, and 166 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: with that I built it up within like nine months, 167 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: had girls I had. It was it was getting busy, 168 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: but I was always out, like six days a night. 169 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 1: I was playing golf. I went into the charity event. 170 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: I went to the guard bars, you know where all 171 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 1: the let's say, old rich men why you know. Or 172 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: then Wall Street came in and Wall Street was Friday 173 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: to Sunday through it. So and then I had some 174 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: a reps and I had international clients. So it was 175 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: building it by itself slowly and kind of fast as well, 176 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: because I was one and when I started by by 177 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: twenty two, I was pretty much yeah, established, So I 178 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: figured out the game. But how I got into it, 179 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: it's really my best friend. She was working since a 180 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: young age because she really loves this job. Um. And 181 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: she was making so much money. And in the script club, 182 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: I would just give a clients and she would give 183 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: me a commission for it. And I saw my telling 184 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: this talking, just talking people out of their money, um. 185 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: And and but that way I was seeing, Okay, what 186 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: do guys don't like? So they call services and the 187 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: girl is ugly, Um, maybe she don't look right, she stays, 188 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: she doesn't know what she's doing. And and then I 189 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: had in professional women. They look beautiful, they don't care, 190 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: they work and they will do their best. Um. So 191 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: I started doing it like that. Then my friend, the 192 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: Italian guy, he had a model agency. So all these 193 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: models wanted to make money, and and I had some 194 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: college girls. I started getting into the policition and for politicians, 195 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: I had one that basically trusted me, and then he, 196 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: you know, gave me a whole lot of more clients 197 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: straight out of California. The Gangster Chronicle with James made 198 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: Steal Steal James eight. Yeah, nigga, better give me my 199 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: fire Donald, I put that on the ship. I need 200 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: to go give me some Watermera. My motherfucking feet fucking 201 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: with me. Gangs the chronic because of my ass. Hey, granny, 202 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: help money, Just gangster granny. Y'all know me. Why are 203 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: you at? So that way I established myself pretty nice 204 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: as a certain time. At the same time, I was 205 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: working in the music business because I really wanted to 206 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: manage and book tours, so I did. I booked some 207 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: people for overseas, and I did an internship with Sony 208 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: and uh yeah, in the music business, I just gave 209 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: them drugs and women's for favors. So that way I 210 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: got favorite small class of people. And they know, they 211 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: don't mind if I come to the studio and bring 212 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: them drugs, right, I mean they I'm not gonna rob them, 213 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna film them. I'm always reliable. So we 214 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: became friends, you know, so favors and that way it worked. 215 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: Out pretty well for me in the beginning. Yeah, I 216 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: know you change, no Joe, how did you wind up impresion? Well, 217 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: this is the thing, um, my mistake was I saw, 218 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: especially in ball Street, everyone wants to get high. So 219 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: I had a guy that I would just send to 220 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: the client and he would make money and whatever. I 221 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: didn't want anything from that. And then he started getting unreliable. 222 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: And if I don't have drugs by five six am, 223 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: he's gonna maybe do an hour instead of ten hours, 224 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: or a day or two days. So I got myself 225 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: a connecting New York and I just started buying my 226 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: own drugs and bringing it to the clients. But I 227 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't even like. I didn't mix it up. I didn't 228 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 1: like really he said, if you do three hours, I 229 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: gave you two baggage for free. I don't care, right, 230 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 1: it's just you have to take the book her. So 231 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: I got even better, connecting better connect So by the 232 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: end that was pretty much by the by the first 233 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: connect um with the Columbians, that was with that, and 234 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: that I would still there not touch the stuff. I 235 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 1: would just back it up, give you one point one 236 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: one point two for free, or four hundreds you know whatever. 237 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: So and then I had, of course other friends. They 238 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: wanted to have some stuff. So with time I was 239 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: probably selling like almost a quilo a month, just with 240 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: little baggage here and there, you know. And how I 241 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: got into prison was someone that I called the Big 242 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: Brother uh in the former Bad Boy associated and stay 243 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: Um he goes by name from Paul ex bodyguard. He 244 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: um set me up. Unfore with the fats go back. 245 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: So Uncle probably from Bad Boy, turns you in. Well 246 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: what happened is this. I was extremely naive. I trust him. 247 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: Um didn't understand switching on, didn't understand the streets at all. Right, Well, 248 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: and and basically he said I need a favor, and 249 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: I said, I can't do you the favor. I can't 250 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: give you a connect because they won't like talk to you. 251 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: Only talk to me because I'm really reliable and I'm 252 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: engaged to somebody. Um. And the end of the day, 253 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 1: I'm I will do the drop, but I do it 254 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: only once I do want favor for you, and I 255 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: can't do it after because it's now. I was afraid 256 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: to be rapt because I didn't then I'm gonna be 257 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: or I maybe get beat up or something. So I 258 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: said at the one and I saw it to under 259 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: over the US me too, and of course there was 260 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: the you know, and I was in shocking, like why 261 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: are they coming up for me like that? I was 262 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: on a and we were in a sushi spot on 263 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 1: the Upper east Side, like a fancy place, and we 264 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: were sitting down and he says, I have the money 265 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: really loud, and I packed the drugs off like a gift. 266 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 1: He was right after Christmas in two thousand twelve, and 267 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: uh when he said that, and she saw he was shaking. 268 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: And then I turned around and I see the lights 269 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: and it was like, you know, the whole d A, 270 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: the FBI, NYPD, they all turned up and they just 271 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: you know, I was I was like, they were not 272 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: here for me, so I'm trying to walk out. They're like, no, 273 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 1: they gotcha. So they put me handkles, give me on 274 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: my rights, and I just know when someone retail around, 275 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: it's a bad time, so I'm guess. So then they 276 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: went to my house. Um, they knew just everything that 277 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: he basically knew, But at that point I still didn't 278 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: know it was him because I didn't know the snitching 279 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: that it's not being possible over here, we don't. It 280 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: doesn't work like here like that, you know. So then, um, 281 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: when when I saw the whole thing in front, like 282 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: you know, I went into the courtroom and stuff. I 283 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: had no co defendant, so the guy was always a 284 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: d A UM on the cover and he was there 285 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: as well with the you know, when we had all 286 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: these talks with the d a So they wanted me 287 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: to snitch. And at that point, I think for me 288 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: even on not from the streets, but it's just I 289 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: funked up and I take the plane. So I took 290 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: the blame from anyone in the house because it was 291 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: my house on top of that, and you know, and 292 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: he to me like, you're gonna do twenty five years, 293 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: twenty four years, go right now, you gotta do the 294 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: twenty five years. And I'm like, well, I'm just gonna 295 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: get a lawyer, you know. So in the end, um, 296 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: they had to like throw out a lot of stuff 297 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: from their rest because it wasn't correct. So I was 298 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: lasting disguise, but I still had to do time. You know. 299 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: I definitely had to take a deal at one point, 300 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: and I couldn't go to trial because I would lose, 301 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: you know. And he never got arrested, uncle Poli. And 302 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: of course, I mean on my part, my side, no 303 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: one gets arrested you. So I just took the blame. 304 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: And I think he counted that I would switch, you know, 305 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: so that he will be out of the thing. And 306 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: while I was imprisoned, a lot of people came up 307 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: to me for me like he's known for. It's not 308 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: I'm not here to retaliate or like you know. I 309 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: just feel like people was deal with him right now. 310 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: Sure at least no, um, that's been anything that I 311 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: went through. That's the only thing I really want to do. 312 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: So he basically introduced you to the undercover yes, and 313 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: he never got he would know right and he would 314 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: get arrested for conspiracy, but he never did. Okay, And 315 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: of course my my fiance got arrested as well. And 316 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: then he came out because I took the blame even 317 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: to him, and he said, well, things happened like that, 318 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: but now you have to make money. You want to 319 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: do another deal tonight, I can get up for you 320 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: nobody from the streets. But no, the guy just got arrested, 321 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: came out of the fetes, and it's gonna offer him 322 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: a deal. Because he knows he will be watched, you know, 323 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: and my excellent he's he's from the streets. He was 324 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: a forward. He kind of explained it to me how 325 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: that works, and I was like, I couldn't believe it, 326 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: you know, but it was definitely clear what it was. 327 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: M M Joe. Your fiance walked, You took the time. 328 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: Did you marry him? No? Did you marry you try? No? 329 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: Now the thing is after time, me getting deported, you know, 330 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: because I took the deportation that I can do less time. 331 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: You know, so if it's a non violent crime, I 332 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: can do two years and I get deported, and over 333 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: here the law is so lenient, you know, I'm free. 334 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: So I took that instead of doing a whole lot 335 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: more time. And after that he got another little charge. 336 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: He couldn't leave the country. So then well be looking 337 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: at three and a half years not seeing each other. Um, 338 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: you know so, but we still got friends to this day. 339 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: All right, Okay, yeah, because you know he had a 340 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: Sholotte one, He had a Sholotte one on his team, 341 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: and for you to take that time and do it, 342 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: but then they deported you, right, all right, But what 343 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 1: what's the best thing for me to do. Imagine I'm 344 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: doing all this time, probably still get deported or I'll 345 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: be stuck in the States and I can't get nowhere, 346 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 1: you know, being a fellon. Um, yeah, I don't know. 347 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: So I just I've had to come back here because 348 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: it's good. It's not as much fun as the State, 349 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: but it's like it's a good country, you know. I 350 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: let me ask you a question. So, like James said, 351 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: you're not You're not the toughest person in the world. 352 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. You're a woman, you know 353 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: what I mean. You look like a model, you know 354 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So, what's the weirdest thing that you've 355 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: ever seen? Like, like, what's the thing that freaked you 356 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: out the most? Working the problem? Like what's the freakiest 357 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: thing you ever had somebody asked to get done to them? Um? 358 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: In the States are here in Switzerland. I know when 359 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: Switz nor either play back, there's probably some difference ship 360 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: going on in Switzerland Switzerland. In Switzerland, someone asked me, Um, 361 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: if I could get a rat that's a life that 362 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: someone can put that in his bottom? Uh, And I 363 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: said no, because there could kill him and he The 364 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: right is in his bottom, so I couldn't do that. 365 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 1: But it was like the weird because he know he 366 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: would die and I don't want to know that body 367 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: and my brother. So somebody, what's that guy? Hey? No, 368 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: what's that guy? The singer with the big mouth? Uh? 369 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: Is it Mick Jagger? I don't want to say. I 370 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: don't want to get the name wrong. But I had 371 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: Gerbil put up his ass. I think that was that 372 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: was that Richard Gear. Yeah, I think I was the 373 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: actor exactly. Okay, it's the same thing as a rat, 374 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: but I want to want to gerbil up the ass. 375 00:18:55,800 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 1: But that way people, you you would never. No, man, 376 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: there's some crazy motherfucker's in the world. I mean because 377 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: we see it every day. I mean you catch it 378 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: on the news a few times. I mean you got 379 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: motherfucker's who killed people, killed kids. Do some just weird ship, 380 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: But you know when it comes to sexual ship, it's 381 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: weird motherfucker's out there. They called me weird because I 382 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: was introduced to the candle ship. I told you ain't 383 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: been just hot blacky. I would tell you boy that 384 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: she had me so right that wax on my nipples 385 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 1: and ship. I was in it, mother and James said, 386 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: ship I got introduced to that hot cator wax. It 387 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 1: was it was craph You know some women, some women 388 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: like to be choked, you know what I'm saying. And 389 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: I gotta get out of that type of ship choking 390 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: you want, you know what I'm saying. And it was 391 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: it was different and and it was it was cool. 392 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: It was cool. So going into that and then you know, 393 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 1: you can go and have a woman do what what 394 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: you desire, what what your pleasures are that I mean, 395 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: and that's that's that's kind of like I mean, I 396 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: guess when I guess, everybody got their pleasure meters, my nigga, 397 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And it goes to what 398 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: level that that your pleasure meeter reaches, you know, because 399 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: you can get yourself into some different kind of ship 400 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: when it comes to right now, Yeah, that's a little 401 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: bit pol that's a little bit. That's a little bit 402 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: uh far out of reef, you know what I'm saying. 403 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: I'm a regular nigga soul, but you know some of 404 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: that ship is far out of reach. But it all 405 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: depends on what your meter is. For a regular motherfucker, 406 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: where you could go you feel me. So what you 407 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: say you called a vanilla, right, you said it's a 408 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: little bit. But if someone says I'm freaky, I don't 409 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: really I really want to know, is because the level 410 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 1: that I've seen as a vanaging all these brotherls. They 411 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: there's different ways of from women to men to like dominated. 412 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: I think some guys they get addicted to get to 413 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: to get I mean the number one thing in Zurich, Switzerland, 414 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 1: it's not getting peed on, is getting the girls basically 415 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,239 Speaker 1: feat the guys their own ship. Huh. And I'm not 416 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: and I'm saying a lot of guys are into young 417 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: old black white Spanish. It's I don't know what it is, 418 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: but it's kind of you know, and they have to 419 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: sign a form because in case they catch hepatitis or something, 420 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: I don't want to be responsible for it because I 421 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 1: can't test the women every day, you know, they just 422 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,959 Speaker 1: have to get tested. But that's like the thing, I guess. 423 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: And there's people over there in it eating ship. Yeah. 424 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: So you know for me today, they have to a 425 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: background check on every broad where they've been, maybe to 426 00:21:53,920 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: find out extreme man, come on still extreme? Yeah, that's 427 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: crazy man. You know, let me ask you before I 428 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: lose this. Let me say this. The cold thing about 429 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: this whole goddamn concept is that these men's go to 430 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: these places and then after that they go home to 431 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: their wives. Yes, it's crazy, yeah much so. Basically, uh, 432 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: motherfucker's can come in sign a consent form and as 433 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 1: long as they sign that consent form, whatever level they 434 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: want to go through they go to. Well, it depends 435 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 1: on the woman as well a lot of things, you know. 436 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: I mean, for me, they can always choose what they 437 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: want to do and not want to do, you know. So, Um, 438 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 1: that's the first thing I respect us to be right, 439 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: especially when a man dominates the woman, because then it's 440 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: banking and then it's hitting, but it's no hitting in 441 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: the face, and and there's levels of hitting there. It's 442 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: like it's basically called slavery over here. It's soft slavery, 443 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,959 Speaker 1: medium slavy, and heart slavery means until you bleed with 444 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: the web and they's but the girls that I had 445 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: to do that was only like two or three and 446 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 1: they're really into it. But they have pleasure in that. 447 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: But I have, of course, um, a girl that's a 448 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: nurse there and they just have to know what they 449 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: do but you never know how far they go into it, 450 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: so there's like a belly have they compressed? So it's 451 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: just I didn't really like getting into that because you 452 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: never know if someone hadn't to do that too much, 453 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: you know, with the choking, it's the same thing. It's 454 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: not even that's serious, but you know some people maybe 455 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: they lose themselves in that moment. You never know what 456 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: might go overboard, you know, going off with James said, 457 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: by being in that lifestyle that you were in, you know, 458 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: being a medal and everything, how hard is it for 459 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: you to have a normal relationship because you probably look 460 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: like every do, like they have a piece of ship. 461 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: Come no, no, no, no no, no. I don't have a 462 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: bad reception of men at all. I say, like, I 463 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: know what I like and what I don't like, and 464 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: what kind of men I like and don't like. But 465 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: I wouldn't judge, right, But if a man likes to 466 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 1: eat it, I probably don't want to be with you, 467 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: and I like, no, It's it's just hard to day 468 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,479 Speaker 1: because I just know men really well. So it's like 469 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: if you're trying to like, you can't bullshit the bullshit. 470 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 1: That's that's just the one so, and you know, to me, 471 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: it's more hard to date someone that can teach me 472 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: something in life. It's not about money. I make my 473 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: own money, But can you teach me something, bring something 474 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: to the table that I get further and I can 475 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: further you. But because I always pull up people, which 476 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: I love doing, I love helping. But I think it's 477 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: more that because it's unattractive to me if I always 478 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: have to help and you can't teach me nothing, I 479 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: think that's a little bit more. Yeah. So you're more 480 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 1: into the mental space of a man, and you're not 481 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: even really tripping off the physical stuff. No more then, no, no, no, 482 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 1: physical has to be right. But I'm saying, if you're 483 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: dumb and you lay, I'm not gonna be attractive to you. 484 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: If you're intelligence and you have something going on, it's 485 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: going to be more attractive anyway. But of course physical 486 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 1: asked us to be right. Yeah, So, so let me 487 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: ask you this, outside of the freaky stuff and everything 488 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: else like this. I know you're not gonna name names, 489 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: but did you have a large celebrity clientele? Um? Large? 490 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say large, definitely a few, but I would 491 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: say more like politicians Hollywood, Wall Street, Smanda of famous, 492 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: but like um celebrities a few and yeah, but nothing 493 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: freaking with the celebrities, just real vanilla hunh Yeah. And 494 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: in the States, I think I'm a vanilla dude, you 495 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I don't really care about it. 496 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: So I just want more money. So the more they spent, 497 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: the freaker they are, the better for me. It's like 498 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: I have if we came down there, how much money 499 00:25:53,560 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: we gotta brain bring your bank account? Never be plowing 500 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: wax on myself. I'm gonna big burning candles on me. 501 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 1: I that's go on to this right now. So you 502 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 1: wound up going to prison, right, and like, how to all? 503 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 1: Are you? You? Five? Three? Right? Five too? And I 504 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: went back to a little bit more, how did you 505 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: survive in prison? Like like they didn't try to punk 506 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: you as soon as you went in there? Well, this 507 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: is what happened. Um, When at first I didn't know, right, 508 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 1: the guy island never So I had a sixty second 509 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: call after the court called my ex and he's like, listen, 510 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 1: you're about to go to a place. Don't talk to nobody, 511 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: don't get into fights. Because he was there for three 512 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: years and so Anyways, I went to Riker's Island and 513 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: I just show and the first thing was I just 514 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: I just never got involved in stuff. But um, if 515 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: someone comes to test me, I was just acting tough. 516 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: And I guess if I lost the fight, I lost 517 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: the fight. But I would not do nothing. That definitely 518 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: not you got You got in a few confrontations, yes, definitely. 519 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: And I think one chick she was like six too. 520 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: She was a big hillbillie bitch if I can't sit here, 521 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 1: and she took a cigarette out of my mouth and 522 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 1: smoked it and blew it in my face and I'm like, 523 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 1: give my cigarette back, and then she's like, well, come 524 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 1: and get it. Like I'm well, then I told him, 525 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: gonna have to beat your ass and she's I had 526 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: to look up like this, and then she's like, well, 527 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: then let's go to the bathroom. So I went there. 528 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, I'm gonna about to get my ass. 529 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: But she never, she never, she never came to the bathroom. 530 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: So I was lucky. But you have to just stay 531 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: in your ground a few times. I mean, that's that's 532 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: just life situations. Sometimes you gotta stand up to a 533 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: mothercker to let them know you ain't scared. Then usually 534 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,479 Speaker 1: they're back down from that stand up, don't know what 535 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: it means. And I would just introduce it to the 536 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: newbies that came in, and she would look out for me. 537 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 1: So I was like a little deal so people wouldn't 538 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: mess it, you know. And I played basketball and I'm 539 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: pretty good at it. So then people get mad at me. 540 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: Even I went I had to, you know, I needed 541 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 1: some back up there, you know, going back to the 542 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: uncle party thing. So he just pretty much got away 543 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: scott free with everything. You know. Yeah, um, but it's 544 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: just a lot of people know now. And I made 545 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: a video on YouTube that kind of made its round, 546 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,479 Speaker 1: and a lot of people hit me up from Harlem, 547 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: you know, and asked me, like, it's that really true? 548 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: And I said, yeah, I'm not here to lie about nobody, 549 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 1: but I feel like people need to know the truth. 550 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: So then he made that the video got deleted, that 551 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: his name had to be taken out and stuff, which, well, 552 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: it is what is you know, the YouTube guidelines, But 553 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 1: people know. And I just feel like I'm not writing. 554 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 1: I didn't write the book or the movie. It's not 555 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 1: about him, It's about my life. But I feel like 556 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: and you claim to be a gangster and it's tough, dude. 557 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: People should know And and I knew why he sent 558 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: me up. Now it makes all sense, but it wasn't 559 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: fair because I didn't do deals with you. I didn't 560 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: go and rob a banqueach you. And now we both 561 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: you know I did you a faith he said. Basically 562 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,239 Speaker 1: he was basically he was faced with some ship and 563 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: he figured like, fucking let me just turn. Let me 564 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: just turned the Feds, only you, so that will get 565 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: me out of some trouble. I think he had to 566 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: do more than than just some favorites. I think it's 567 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: a few favorites because I know some people more got 568 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: arrested that he introduced to me. Once it just made 569 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: sense all in the end, right um. And then from 570 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: some people that that that know him and the surroundings 571 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: just told me that you know, he got caught up 572 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: in a whole lot of ship and now he has 573 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: to basically of the government, you know. But like when 574 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: when you messed up, they're gonna offer you, you know, 575 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: if they'll that you have to snatch the same that 576 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: they did with me. But I feel like for whoever 577 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: he is or whatever situation, he was in. He just 578 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: he took to deal with the fats. I guess, oh wow, 579 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: so let me. I just can't get over like like 580 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: this is crazy to me. Man. So you didn't reveal 581 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: none of your names, none of your people that you had, 582 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: like none of your clients, right, because they were asking 583 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure, right, yeah, they offered me a lot 584 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: of money for that. But I feel like if someone 585 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: pays for that, that's expression. And I'm not putting out 586 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: no names now when the movie comes out, I'll be 587 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: working right now on the development. Just is gonna like 588 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: right around the character. But that you're not gonna find 589 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: out who it is. But you could have an idea, 590 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: you know, right, because I'm not going to ask you 591 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: to review the names because you know I understand it. 592 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: But what's the highest level of government did you have 593 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: as a client government, Like what's the highest like a 594 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: senator or mayor, the governor? The governor Now you're just 595 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: chowing it out, now, who's the governor at that child? 596 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: That it depends on depends on what state it was, 597 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: right right, it was it was and any other things changed, 598 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: like people have changed positions instead because this is how 599 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: many years ago, like ten years ago about so. I 600 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: guess at the time that was probably good Juliana. You know, 601 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: you know you love just throwing out some ship man. 602 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: You just don't do that. Maybe I didn't accuse Juliana 603 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: nothing less. You know, he's but when you first started, 604 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: you said, we ain't gonna use no names. Yeah, your 605 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: ass just come out with you. I don't know for sure, 606 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I don't think so she 607 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: didn't say nothing. I don't know. I said it's nothing, no, no, 608 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: Tuleani no. And again I mean I wouldn't say name. 609 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: It's the only name that I was real his uncle Paul. Right. 610 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this now, wo you kind of 611 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: being with you consider yourself an expert is sex? Um? 612 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: I would can't consider myself an expert as how to 613 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: make money with sex? Poor a little liquor and roll 614 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: something up. Chronicles. We'll be right back gotten damn it. 615 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: This is O g Gangster Granny and y'all tuned into 616 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: the Gangster Chronicles on a black effect podcast net. But 617 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: never turn off my goddamn greens. You'll bet and not 618 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: burn up my ship. Hey, okay, so you said I 619 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: I have a lot of friends that have porn stars. 620 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: But I can't say that, you know, I know, I don't. 621 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: I probably know more than the average, for sure, and 622 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: I'm more open than maybe the average. But I can't 623 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: say I'm the best, you know what I mean, I 624 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: can I can say that because I don't know. But 625 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: when it comes to when if woman comes to me 626 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: and she says, I want to make money this business 627 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: for like two years, I will teach her how to 628 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: get the most money the two years to save it. 629 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: And you know, because because you don't want to be 630 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: fifty and still be telling us, you know very good. 631 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,719 Speaker 1: Any of the women, any of the women that you have, 632 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: do they ever get choken out of this place, get 633 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: married and have kids? Yeah? Absolutely? I mean my best girl, Um, 634 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: she's like she paid off two houses as a lot 635 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: of money in the bank and she's getting married. Now 636 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: that's a good thing, very lucrative, all right. But I'm 637 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: staying like these women that I want to hire, they 638 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: want to I want them to have a plan. I 639 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: don't want them to just hang around and do nothing. 640 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: Have a plan that that money, because I can't use 641 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: you for three or four years because everyone saw you 642 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: at one point and it's not interesting anymore. I need 643 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: more girls, new girls, you know, you gotta just And 644 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: then again I have to think, like if you don't 645 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: smart enough to make enough money at that time, I 646 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 1: don't want to have you under my girls, because some 647 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: one girls that can have conversations with you, you can 648 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: take on a trip, on on a dinner and spend 649 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: time with them, you know best just fall in love. 650 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: So so do you basically when you get ready to 651 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: fuk with a girl, do you tell her that there's 652 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: like a three year, four year plan, you know, and 653 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: I'm only gonna deal with you for a certain amount 654 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: of time. Yes, absolutely, And and I tell them myself 655 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: what's the best for them to do it? Because I again, um, 656 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: you know, if I can help out, help out. But 657 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: I feel like I know it's best for women not 658 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: to do this for a long long time, you know, 659 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: because you're gonna get used to a certain easy way 660 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: of making money. And then what are you gonna do 661 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: after you got invested? Don't buy bags? Have somebody else 662 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: buying you bags, you know, or shoes or whatever. You're 663 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: so let me ask you this. You think you could 664 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: take the average guy? Like, do you think you could 665 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: take the average guy and show him how to be 666 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: a good Uh. Because what you're doing I really can 667 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,399 Speaker 1: call a piving is you're sharing the money. A pip 668 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: don't really share no money, you know what I mean? 669 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,439 Speaker 1: So do you think a guy could You can show 670 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: a guy how to do that. Yeah, but it's harder 671 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: because the guys the things that I'm a woman, so 672 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: I'm not seeking a relationship with them. Guys always feel 673 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: bad for women when they cry or have a problem. 674 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 1: They want to help. I don't. I don't feel bad 675 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: on someone christ Uh, you know what I mean. I'm 676 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 1: trying to help them to get a solution. Um, you know, 677 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: and meant then they get soft, Oh I'm sorry, and 678 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: then this the relationship starts me. But then if these 679 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: feelings involved, it could be the day is a guy 680 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: that's good at that, But you really have to keep 681 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: your feelings out and you cannot touch that girl on 682 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,839 Speaker 1: the no circumstances. The second you have relations with her, 683 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,760 Speaker 1: it's over. You're gonna be either the pip or her boyfriend. 684 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: You know, she got game right when you when you 685 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 1: experience and you know what you do, that's how you 686 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 1: gotta do. You gotta set the grand room ship, right, 687 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying. A lot of people say, oh, 688 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 1: we're friends. No, it's the business thing and it's on 689 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: the same thing. But they will see the success that 690 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: they have. And women, you know, they're always women who 691 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: already work in this job. They know how to um 692 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: persuade a guy or you know, to manipulate them. But 693 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: you can't manipulate me, because I'm gonna check. So what 694 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: are you gonna do, you know, relationship with you so 695 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:26,240 Speaker 1: or are you presently in a relationship? No? Why? Um, 696 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: the last relationship I had was was someone a little 697 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: bit younger than me, and it's just yeah, I'm gonna 698 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 1: say that the right way. That's not mean. Um, I 699 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: just feel like I'm on a different level and I 700 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: just cover it, like you can't do nothing for me. 701 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: I always have to help and figure out things, and 702 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 1: then just stupidity turn off. I just can't say like that. 703 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 1: So you was playing too much of the mama road, right, 704 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 1: and I just don't want to be that, you know. 705 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: But it's not even that. When someone does a stupid thing, 706 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: and it's not even the cheating part or whatever, Right, 707 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: I'm just saying you do something really stupid, especially for 708 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 1: my me. Yeah, no, it's a turn off. They gotta 709 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,439 Speaker 1: be a little bit smarter and think a little bit further. 710 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: And that was just for me, like the yeah, and 711 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: then on top of the coronavirus didn't make it easier, 712 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: so it was just better too, you know. But I'm 713 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: okay with it, you know, because that I have I 714 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: work as an HR in the office and my head hunter. 715 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: I do a medical medic and mariana business, and have 716 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 1: my other book and the documentary stuff going on, the 717 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 1: movie stuff. So I'm busy. So you're still so you're 718 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: still hustling. Still, Yeah, that's more about the book. I know. 719 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,240 Speaker 1: It's called The International Matter, How Woman Control the World 720 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 1: Wide Six Room. M h. So you have so you 721 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 1: have going on how many different countries for I mean 722 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: for continents. Yeah, that had girls everywhere pretty much, and 723 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 1: that's like and they were always The good thing is 724 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 1: they would meet at certain places and they always have 725 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 1: pretty girls. I would say, listen, if you introduced me 726 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 1: to the girl, she makes me money, I give you 727 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 1: a nice and nice fee. And then they're like, you know, 728 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: they're not really chell us of each other because they 729 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 1: feel like, hey, we all pretty girls. We always make 730 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 1: money and it kind of works like that, you know. 731 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: It wasn't like a beef or notthing like that. Girls 732 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: have to you know. Hey, yeah, well man, that's an 733 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 1: incredible story. So the book is out now right, a right, 734 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 1: the book is on Amazon and Walmart and Parts and Nobles. Oh, 735 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: try to count that. I'm gonna have to go count that. 736 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,280 Speaker 1: Give it a ready, that's that's say. Looks it seems 737 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: like it's a good read. So I'm might have to 738 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,879 Speaker 1: go peep that out. Yeah, that's yeah what I'm saying, 739 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 1: because I'm gonna try to take a guess and who 740 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: that governor was? You know what I'm saying, don't people 741 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: you know? Still you want to know who the the 742 00:37:54,280 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 1: governor was here? Yeah, a little freaky mother, don't mean. 743 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: But this is the thing. The White House has a 744 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: lot of people that I know that they came in there, 745 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 1: went there because you know, and then again they just 746 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 1: all referred at one point, you know. But I would 747 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 1: never like tell their names. I have to be honest, 748 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 1: yell know, you would never tell their names. Because I 749 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,240 Speaker 1: beat you. I can guess who one of the freest 750 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 1: dudes in the world. I beat you don't Trump, free 751 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 1: you to the mouth. Uh he likes girls like his daughter. 752 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: Oh that would make a little college flung girl probably 753 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 1: probably I can see that don't Trump And there man 754 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,959 Speaker 1: getting lit up down trunk and they're hitting the line 755 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: man and get some some wat samelon on his TV. 756 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 1: Maybe that camed away say hey, that's a good experience 757 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: right there. That that should feel good, just like that 758 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 1: motherfucking point on your lit But you'll be like damn 759 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 1: James five, you know James, And I'll take you to 760 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 1: a dune shed so you can just look at it. Hey, 761 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 1: I'm with it right long as it ain't got no 762 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 1: gers and none of that. Other Where can people hit 763 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: you up at? W's your social media? So my Instagram 764 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,439 Speaker 1: is at intel, I n t L mada, I'm gonna 765 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 1: eat in the end until Madam, and uh my Facebook 766 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 1: is gardone nevs. But it's not on International Madam as well. 767 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: It's like the social media I don't know, snapchat and 768 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:43,359 Speaker 1: not rely on Twitter. Okay, sure on my website of course. 769 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 1: What's your website? W w W the International Madam dot com, 770 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 1: the International Madam dot com. There you go, right there, 771 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 1: she's pimping all over the world, man, and all over 772 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,359 Speaker 1: the world. Man, y'all go pick up her book. Man, 773 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: it seems like it's a good read. You know, I'm 774 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 1: definitely gonna go pick it up. You know, I'm standing. 775 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 1: You probably learned a few things in there too, for 776 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying for you, uh, for your 777 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 1: cardboard niggers who don't like to experience some ship. You 778 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You know, take it from James. 779 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: You were saying you might want to experience some ship. 780 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So let me ask you this, Um, 781 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 1: how can you tell like like like so you said, 782 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: Donald Trump part like girls just like his daughter, like 783 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: like the Deronda Eggs, like college age girls. I mean 784 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 1: he said that, remember that he would date his own 785 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 1: daughter if he could, he said at an interview. And 786 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: I can see that because it's the thing I had 787 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 1: mostly tall blondes. That's just what most of these guys 788 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: like in general, you know. Um. And I can see 789 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 1: him like definitely with a girl like that. That's crazy. Man. See, 790 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,799 Speaker 1: she just got she could look at the motherfucking tell 791 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 1: that they just just perfect got to be able to 792 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 1: figure a motherfucker out when you you know, when you're 793 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: in that line of business, you gotta be able to 794 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 1: figure a motherfuck out. You know, they taste what they like, 795 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 1: what they don't like. You'll be able to pain point 796 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 1: a motherfucker when you'ven't been around the block a few times. 797 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,320 Speaker 1: I mean, the thing is there. I usually just asked 798 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: and and my idea actually was that I'm still like 799 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 1: working out or finishing it. I want to do like 800 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,800 Speaker 1: a concierge service where people can just request some freaky stuff. 801 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 1: No animals, no children, no rate, you know what I mean. 802 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,800 Speaker 1: That's like the main thing. But they can request that 803 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 1: and I will organize it for them, and it's just 804 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 1: very expensive. That was my idea because I can run 805 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 1: into Switzerland, which is completely legal with my accounts here. 806 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 1: Um so yeah, I can actually do it all over 807 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 1: the world and there's no money exchange, there's just up 808 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 1: front payment. Um yeah. And that's something maybe I want 809 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,879 Speaker 1: to do all part because I have too much going 810 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 1: on already and I kind of like lost after the 811 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 1: last rock that's told, I kind of lost the interest 812 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,320 Speaker 1: in it a little bit because the prices dropped a 813 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 1: lot and I don't want to take half of three hundred. 814 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 1: That's just for me, like it doesn't sound right for me, 815 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 1: you know. So yeah, so different stuff that's just happened. 816 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 1: Especially the movie. I'm excited for that, Like that's you know, 817 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 1: putting that we have do we have a timeline as 818 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 1: far as the movie. The thing is this, I'm right, 819 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:08,319 Speaker 1: I'm right now in writing with some amazing writers from Hollywood. Um, 820 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 1: so you're gonna see about that the documentary. We're gonna 821 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 1: figure it out because a lot of people have an 822 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 1: issue with the fact that that I don't look at 823 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: prostitution as dirty and bad. I look at it bad 824 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 1: when it comes to violence, and you know, if they 825 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 1: don't want to work. But it's it's nothing dirty about it, 826 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: you know because a lot of women, you know strip 827 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,799 Speaker 1: maybe have sex as well for money, you know who 828 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,359 Speaker 1: know it said or get married to a rich guy 829 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,400 Speaker 1: and just for the money. And I just think that 830 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 1: whole stigma of like women are bad who are in 831 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 1: this line of work shis just like you know, passed 832 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,879 Speaker 1: by a little bit. You know what my for last 833 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 1: few years, when you get with somebody, you don't know 834 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 1: what they did and they paid the only different things 835 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,839 Speaker 1: them girls know what they did and it was open 836 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 1: with it. You don't know what the woman was doing 837 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 1: before they make you, so you just you know what 838 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:54,319 Speaker 1: I'm saying in the dark. But you know, I mean 839 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 1: everybody didn't had a few skeletons at one point, you know, 840 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure. So you know, you gotta go off. What 841 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 1: it is girls to use condoms, There's no way around that. Um, 842 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 1: if you maybe have a girl that just goes out 843 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 1: to have fun and has uh you know, and I 844 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 1: don't even care about that because they wanted to do 845 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 1: whatever they want to do, but they just go out 846 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 1: have fun, not using protection. Um. And and an autogo 847 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,839 Speaker 1: makes money and uses protection. I don't know what's worse, 848 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:23,359 Speaker 1: you know. So yes, real stuff. Well, it's been really 849 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 1: amazing having you on the show. We gotta do this 850 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,800 Speaker 1: again because I'm pretty sure we can only scrape the 851 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,800 Speaker 1: surface exactly. Definitely, and thank you so much for having me. 852 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 1: I love your podcast so definitely. I always watch it 853 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 1: and I would like to go again whenever you guys 854 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: want to. Oh, for sure, we definitely cat you know what, 855 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna give you a turnal. No, you are official 856 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:48,799 Speaker 1: sex consultant. Yeah, when we got something, when we got 857 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,799 Speaker 1: some freaky questions or you or steal or something. Guy 858 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,800 Speaker 1: want to know about some ship or or your James 859 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 1: want to know about some ship. We're gonna call and 860 00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 1: get I got it. Yeah, I got a old budget 861 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,879 Speaker 1: questions that That's what I'm talking about. So we'll pick 862 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 1: We'll pick them up during during episodes when we run 863 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 1: into some like some extra after hours ship and ship. 864 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,400 Speaker 1: Look what we should do for the next show. We 865 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: have her with two of her girls and let her 866 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 1: girls explain the freaky ship, the kind of ship I 867 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 1: want to know? Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, have them take 868 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 1: you to have them take you through a scenario ship, yeah, 869 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:40,319 Speaker 1: submissive girl, yeah yeah yeah. James, you you gotta set 870 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 1: it up for what you want, what kind of ship, 871 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,239 Speaker 1: and then we're gonna go through it. You're gonna take 872 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:51,320 Speaker 1: you through the scenario. I'm writing it down already, and 873 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: she made me lick my lips. Man, she's talking right, 874 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 1: just like like ell and ship. I'm ready to do something. 875 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:04,800 Speaker 1: Get no Um for example, if you have an episode 876 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,800 Speaker 1: and people like talk about stuff, you have a question, 877 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:11,879 Speaker 1: just get me in as a consultant. Um. We're gonna 878 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,799 Speaker 1: we got you, We got you. We gonna set up 879 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 1: a paid service. Now, this service that we're setting up, 880 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: y'all gonna be paid. We're gonna set up the thing 881 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 1: that if you want to ask her a question, you 882 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 1: shoot the money through that cash. I gotta come through 883 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,319 Speaker 1: that chin chin, come through your question, get answered. All right. 884 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 1: We were in the game. Now we've been shot by 885 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:36,360 Speaker 1: the business, We've been talked by the international. Matter is 886 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,279 Speaker 1: we appreciate you, Thank you so much, and you guys 887 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:43,359 Speaker 1: have a beautiful day, are you all right? Everybody? That's 888 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 1: another episode Against the Chronicles And this was our first 889 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 1: freaky waiting wild one. You know what I'm saying. Go 890 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,319 Speaker 1: here us up o g gainst the Chronicles dot com, 891 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 1: follow us on Instagram, Against the Chronicles podcast and hit 892 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,799 Speaker 1: the international mana herself up, all right and we out 893 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,839 Speaker 1: of here page. Hey,