WEBVTT - Big Red Rage - Cardinals Legend Kurt Warner Talks Offense 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:03.920 Stramp on the boots and scrape. 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:06.560 Up the knuckles on ahead. He got jacked. 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:11.959 This is the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:12.880 and Gilbert. 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:16.280 Terry's gonna score touchdown Slim to the ground by Buddha Banker. 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:19.320 Like a torpedo, he keeps flying into the backfield. 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:24.960 The rage is brought to you by santan Ford and 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:28.120 Gilbert right on the Price, right on the corner of 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:30.800 the Santan two to two Freeway in Valves. 0:00:31.160 --> 0:00:36.120 Want a Crab by Trey McBride that was spectacular. 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:42.040 And by Arizona Cardinals podcast. Visit Azycardinals dot com Slash Podcast, All. 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:48.920 Red Seas, Rising Uard, Jump You, Rising Vision, Flurry Rage, 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:49.960 take it over. 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:51.639 Here's Paul Calvic. 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:54.720 I'm ready. I'm one hundred percent ready. I'm telling you 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:57.080 I'm ready. And Darren Urban I'll. 0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:59.040 Above this RUPI kid right. 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:01.080 The field. 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:08.440 It's football. It's about execution. Can we can we execute 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:15.200 the impossible game plan? Can we talk NFL? Make it interesting, 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:21.680 make it informative and not succumb to Chiefs fatigue. It's 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:24.080 gonna be tough, but you know what, when you're the 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:29.399 original Thursday night football, you enjoy a good challenge. Paul 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:32.679 Calvic here, Darren Urban over there, Darren, do you accept 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:34.880 the challenge? Here? In this episode of The Big Red Rage, 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:37.959 presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert, we are Santane for. 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:40.280 I'm just here so I don't cant find Paul. 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:42.800 It's a good one, okay, you know what, Darren's here. 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:45.399 We're also gonna see your Patrick Mahomes and we're gonna 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:48.760 raise you another heavy hitter. Hall of Fame quarterback Kurt 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:51.840 Warner is going to be our guest on show number 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:55.000 seven oh one in the history more than two decades 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:56.320 of the Big Red Rage. And I bring that up 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:59.840 because it's funny. How last week for show number seven hundred, 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:02.840 all the hoopball, you know, and Big Red Rage palooza. 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:06.160 You know, Wolf was here, you know, but now seven 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:09.240 oh one, you know where grinders again, you know, tracking 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:11.600 towards number eight hundred. Wolf just you know, isn't here. 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:13.280 Supposedly he's under the weather. 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:14.239 Just under the weather. 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:15.080 Yeah, why not? 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:16.080 Like he timed out. 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:18.920 It's not like Logan's run that old thing where you 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:22.280 get to a certain amount of episodes and shuffle off 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:23.040 this mortal coil. 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:25.480 As far as I know there's not. Maybe it's there's 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:27.799 only seven hundred in his contract. I'm not really sure 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:30.920 about those. There are off season changes, which is maybe 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:31.960 our segue. 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:33.400 Just dropped the mic and he said, I'm out. 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:36.360 Into the Cardinals coaching staff. As you may have seen 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:39.280 if you follow Virginia Tech on social media, you might 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:43.560 have seen that va Tech Football tweeted out Sam Sifkis 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:47.280 is their new defensive coordinator, previously known as. 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:50.360 Linebackers coach for the Cardinals. Okay, I'm working mostly with 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:54.200 the inside linebackers. So yeah, there's at least that opening 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:56.480 that Jonathan Gannon's gonna have to fill. 0:02:56.560 --> 0:03:00.480 So we'll see about whether the mic. Linebacker is going 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:02.760 to be an opening you have to fill. Kaysier White 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:06.040 maybe the biggest Cardinals free agent that we're looking forward 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:09.400 to getting an answer to here this offseason. Reports also 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:12.320 say that Cardinals have parted ways with d line coach 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:17.200 Derek LeBlanc, so we'll see what that means on the staff. 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:18.359 But once again, you know. 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:21.320 And Clayton Adams, the offensive line coach, is interviewed with 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:24.519 the that's been reported interviewed with the Cowboys to be 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:25.639 their offensive coordinator. 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:28.520 So which sort of reminds you last year. Is the exception? 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:31.720 Right when you maintain the status quo, when there are 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:34.240 no changes on NFL coaching staff in an offseason, that 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:36.360 is truly the exception, is it not? 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:39.480 Yes, because usually you're either wanting to make a change 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:43.000 or somebody else is moving into a different direction like 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:45.440 we've seen now, and and you know, it'll be interesting 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:48.000 to see exactly what happens. I don't know if those 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:49.960 are the only names we're gonna end up hearing about, 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:54.840 but you know, you're hoping that, hopefully the coaching staff 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:56.160 is in place by the time they go to the 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:57.400 Combine in late February. 0:03:57.840 --> 0:03:59.880 Okay, now speaking to the draft. A couple of items 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:03.080 this week. Senior Bowl going on, the practices, the Shrine 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:06.760 Game practices going on. Did you see who stole some 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:10.160 of the headlines at the Senior Bowl? Not sure I've 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:13.360 ever said this before, but a fine, diminutive American who 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:19.120 plays offensive line. North Carolina old lineman Willy Lampkin, measured 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:23.599 at five to ten, two hundred and seventy pounds. He's like, 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:26.000 you're a basketball guy. He's like the spud Web of 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:28.359 the NFL. Yes, I mean I. 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:30.720 Don't know if I've ever heard of a sub six 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:32.000 foot offensive lineman. 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:35.080 The video of him going against six foot seven, three 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:37.839 hundred and forty pound day One Walker out of Kentucky, 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:40.200 who's one of the big blue chip prospects, and then 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:42.960 six foot six, three hundred and forty pound Cam Jackson 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:46.360 of Florida, two guys who might be on the Cardinals 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:49.279 radar for all we know, and going locking horns with 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:52.320 five foot ten Willie Lampkin effect. It was Jackson who 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:55.200 was Quota said you have to get low, real low. 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:58.680 That ain't easy. He played me tough, So there's that, 0:04:59.360 --> 0:04:59.880 and then lost. 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:01.560 Haven't you heard that? 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:04.640 I heard that? You know what, though, Darren, I'm looking 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:06.360 at the cut of your jib right now. You need 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:08.919 you need a mock draft update. You know, it's never 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:12.800 too early for a draft up day. Here we go. 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:14.800 We almost got to February without going. 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:17.240 No, we got to get you a mock draft in January. 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:19.520 In fact, there are three out. Bucky Brooks one point 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:23.520 zero has a Cardinals taking James Pierce Junior, an edge 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:26.760 out of Tennessee sixty five two forty three speed rusher 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:30.719 off the edge, Daniel Jeremiah one point, oh, Jalen Walker, 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:32.840 who's been getting a lot of run an edge out 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:36.080 of Georgia, a little smaller, highly athletic six two two 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:39.800 forty five, and then mel kiper As the Cardinals going 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:43.679 at number sixteen. Overall, Tyler Booker might be the best 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:45.800 guard in the draft out of Alabama. 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:48.200 I think I saw Jeremiah say he was one of 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:50.640 the cleanest first round possibilities. 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:53.120 Yes, like one of the safest picks in the draft. 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:57.360 Bucky Brooks wrote that Tyler Booker is a bully at 0:05:57.360 --> 0:06:00.200 the line of scrimmage with the nastiness needed to set 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:02.880 their towing up front. Now that is a double ding 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:05.880 when it comes to Jonathan Gannon and maniastin board. I mean, 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:09.279 does that not sound like a Kramat vertical sort of 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:10.799 offensive lineman for this team. 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:14.279 No, I think that that's exactly the kind of guy 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:15.760 that they're going to be looking for. And I will 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:18.440 be fascinated to see exactly how this draft plays out. 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:22.360 I mean, I think clearly they're going to go lineman 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:25.479 on that first well, not clearly, but I believe it 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:27.440 to be true that they're going to go lineman with 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:29.960 that first pick. Whether it's offensive or defensive line. I 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:33.880 guess you could throw edge in there as a possibility, 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:35.599 but we know that they want to build up those 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:39.479 lines and get tougher in those areas and maybe fill 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:42.320 some holes that they're potentially going to have, and we 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:44.039 got a long way to go. Paul, Yeah, I mean 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:45.680 we are free agency first. 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:47.880 But they do say that O line and D line 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:50.480 is pretty stacked this year. It's a pretty strong and 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:54.039 there are some more unknown edge guys Cardinals I'm sure 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:56.520 will be evaluating, like the two leading sack artists who 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:59.040 are both in these All Star Games out of Boston 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:01.919 College and Marshall a little known but really showed well 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:04.560 this week, so we'll see how that plays. There's also 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:08.080 the NFL talk dot com story Unsung Heroes of the 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:11.760 twenty twenty four NFL Season one per team. Did you 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:14.040 see who was selected on behalf of the Cardinals their 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:18.520 unsung hero this past season? It's not you, Paul, Garrett Williams. 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:21.120 Star at it. Garrett Williams. Here's what I didn't realize 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:25.120 on Garrett Williams. He grated out as Pro Football focuses 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:29.440 number two corner in coverage behind only Pats or Tan 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:32.520 what really well? 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:36.640 Again, I think Garrett Williams took giant strides this year. 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:41.040 He plays mostly in the slot, which is good in 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:44.320 a lot of ways. That's another position where I'm fascinated 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:47.559 to see exactly what direction they go. Do they try 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:50.320 and spend another high pick on a cornerback perhaps if 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:53.240 the right guy is there, or are they happy with 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:56.640 this group that they have right now, which is considerably young, 0:07:57.560 --> 0:07:59.440 but they've added a lot of people in the last 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:01.560 couple of years. We haven't even talked about Elijah Jones, 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:03.600 who didn't even get on the field. So that's a 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:05.160 third round pick that you're going to be adding to 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:05.560 the mix. 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:07.360 A right time to talk about the owner of Michael 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:10.480 Bidwell elected to the Arizona Sports Hall of Fame, and 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:14.760 none other than Larry Fitzgerald was there to deliver the news, 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:18.600 and once again in entertaining fashion, it was unbeknownst to 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:21.480 Michael himself, and it went something like this. 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:23.880 It's impossible to surprise Michael Bidwell, but if we're going 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:26.440 to get him today, he thinks I'm here filming some 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:29.160 promo for the NFL, but that's not what I'm really 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:30.960 here for. And I can't wait to reveal it to 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:31.680 you in a little bit. 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:32.640 What's going on? 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:34.199 Look at this? 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:35.839 Give me once I got, I gotta do this one 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:38.520 more line, give me one second. I don't know on 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:40.920 behalf of the Arizona Sports Hall of Fame Trustees. Is 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:43.880 my great honor to inform you, Michael Bidwell, that you 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:46.720 have been unanimously voted into the Arizona Sports Hall of 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:50.199 Fame clash of twenty twenty four. And I'm so very 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:52.360 happy for you, boss man, and I had to come 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:57.440 down and kid Dad obviously, Jake Plumber, Adrian Wilson, Pat Tillman, myself. 0:08:57.600 --> 0:08:59.920 You man, it's an honor to have you. Thank you, 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:02.760 Nobody nobody deserves it more for what you've done, not 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:04.360 only for others on the Cardinals, but the state of 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:07.720 Arizona in general. I mean, these kids walking around the 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:09.719 city wearing these jerseys, pulling for this team. 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:11.080 It wouldn't be possible without you. 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:14.760 And you know, I'm just so so thankful for you 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:17.600 and everything you've done. You deserve this moment, You deserve 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:18.160 this well. 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:18.720 Thank you. 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:22.360 Larry means so much having this news come from you, 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:25.920 and you've led the way in so many different ways. 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:29.439 You're a member of a number of halls of Fame 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:32.000 and soon to be the Pro Football Hall of Fame 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:33.200 here in a year or two. 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:38.120 But none of that would be possible without you. And 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:40.120 you know, to think what you've done to elevate this 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:44.640 organization in the city, it's it's unbelievable. And you know, 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:47.520 I know greater things to come, you know, with your leadership. 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:50.000 I appreciate it absolutely, Thank you. I love you. 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:50.679 I love you too. 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:52.840 Appreciate it. Wow. 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:54.200 Okay, so that's what. 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:59.120 This was about. Oh, you gotta love the Larry laugh 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:03.439 right there. It's good stuff and they generally surprised Michael Bidwell, 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:06.480 unbeknownst to him, really well done by the Cardinals TV 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:08.959 crew in the TV studio, Larry Fitzgerald himself. Fact, you 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:11.720 can see that the Cardinals have posted that great video 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:14.120 and once again you heard Larry mention some of the names. 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:16.440 So it'll be the sixth member of the Cardinals organization 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:18.400 to be elected to the Arizona Sports Hall of Fame, 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:21.640 as Michael joins his late father, Bill Bidwell, and then 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:27.160 Larry himself, Pat Tillman, Adrian Wilson, Jake Plummer's. 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:30.280 It's definitely a who's who of people that have been 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:32.640 important as Arizona Cardinals. 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:36.760 So congratulations to Michael. And we're gonna. 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:38.320 Get to see probably zach Ertz that night too because 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:40.280 his wife, Juliertz, who's from Arizona. 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:43.000 Yes, she is also in this class. 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:46.000 Yes, I mean you talk about heavy hitters, right, Mike 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:50.080 Bibby is in this class. Julia Ertz, Ricky Hunley, the 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:52.640 former NFL linebacker out of the U of A, Joe 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:56.720 Garajolia junior former d Max GM, Paul Konerko. 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:57.840 Chaparra Go Fires. 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:00.319 Yeah, I left that one for last I know you 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:02.000 right there, so he could flex that one on that. 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:06.760 But what was the other Chaparral news aar there? Okay, 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:10.680 another Darren so on the Darren Patty on the Darren 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:14.400 powerpole with two rs in an e. Where does Mugie rank, 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:16.120 you know? And where do you rank in there? 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:18.800 And you know it's well, as Danny tweeted out that night, 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:23.360 our friend Danny sirek, I am the least most important 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:25.400 Darren that had walked the halls of chaparale I. 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:29.160 See, hey, you can join the Cardinal season ticket waitlist. 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:31.920 Always good with Danny holding you accountable for a listen 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:34.040 to the twenty twenty five opponents, and to learn about 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:38.119 season ticket member benefits, go to Azycardinals dot com slash waitlist. 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:40.959 All Right, speaking to heavy hitters, what does a Hall 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:44.200 of Fame quarterback think of Marvin Arrison Junior's rookie year? 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:48.280 Where and how can Kyler improve? Patrick Mahomes, how do 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:50.959 you beat the Chiefs? You know what? Let's ask Kurt 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:53.800 Warner himself. He joins us. Next. It is the Big 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:56.680 Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are 0:11:56.880 --> 0:12:02.760 santan Ford because it's a plea flicker. Warner gonna throw 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:04.520 deep nearside, going for fence. 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:05.560 He's in double coverage. 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:09.480 It doesn't matter. He caught it anyway, touchdown, Cardinals. 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:12.680 Kurt Warner could throw a twinkie into a toaster. 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:16.080 I mean this guy is on fire. 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:18.600 Warner with a ton of time throwing right side. 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:21.280 Fit's open, caught in the five heading for the. 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:26.960 Pylon, and he is gonna be ruled EO Cardinals. 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:31.480 Worry Fitzgerald. Warner takes back to throw faith left side. 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:35.200 Fitzgerald Big Island touchdown, his third of the day. 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:38.160 It's twenty to sex Arizona. 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:40.560 Wow, Kurt Warner isn't in the zone. 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:42.840 He is the zone. 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:43.400 That's it. 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:45.720 The Cordinals half shot the world. 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:48.120 It's right but true. The Cards have done. 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:51.000 They're going to Super Bowl forty three. 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:54.199 The QB, who was supposedly on the down side of 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:57.840 his career, showed the world how much upside there really 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:00.720 was in his game and his team. 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:02.480 We're nobody else believed in us. 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:04.360 We're nobody else believed in me. 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:07.760 You guys did, and we're going to the super Bowl. 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:15.800 That is from our award winning Cardinals Folktales series, Kurt 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:20.200 Warner renaissance man on Kurt's Cardinals' career. I'll have you know, 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:24.200 Darren Urban, that was the fifth most downloaded Cardinals podcast 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:27.560 in twenty twenty four, even though the pod posted in 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:31.040 twenty twenty three. And it's always an honor to have 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:32.839 the Hall of Famer himself here on the Big Red 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:38.040 Rage presented by San tan Ford in Gilbert Kurt Warner. Welcome, Kurt, 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:40.680 and we're gonna I'm gonna get into my question because 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:43.360 once Darren gets rolling, there's no stopping him. Okay, you 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:47.400 just finished talking with Patrick Mahomes getting ready for your 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:51.760 Super Bowl broadcasts, et cetera. And I mean it's ridiculous, right, 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:55.560 somebody just nicknamed him the Human Dynasty. He's seventeen and 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:58.319 three in the playoffs, fifth super Bowl in seven years. 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:01.760 I saw where Saquon Barkley's said, Look, we wanted to 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:04.880 send a message a team can still run the ball 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:08.360 down someone's throat and get to a super Bowl. Okay, 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:10.880 can you win a Super Bowl that way? Can you 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:13.800 beat Patrick Mahomes that way? Because the Cardinals seem to 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:16.439 be tracking that way. And if you don't have Patrick Mahomes, 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:18.520 what do you do? Do you run the ball? And 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:20.720 will it work in Super Bowl fifty nine? 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:24.200 Well, I think the bottom line is I think you 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:26.400 can win a Super Bowl running the football the way 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:31.680 that Eagles have in most seasons. For sure, we'll get 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:33.760 a chance to see if they can do it this 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:37.040 season because you mentioned it is that on paper, I 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:39.360 look at the Eagles and I think they're the better roster. 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:41.960 I think they've got more of those big time players 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:45.760 that have proven themselves, you know, at this level. But 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:49.360 the Chiefs to have Patrick Mahomes and he is the 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:52.200 ultimate X actor is that he is so good in 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:54.760 the moment at making the right decision at keeping a 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:58.600 game close, and then obviously in the moment, if you 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:01.040 give him a chance to be able to put the 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:04.000 dagger in and to win the game. And so I 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:06.800 have to believe the Eagles are going to have success. 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:09.200 They have success against them a couple of years ago, 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:12.960 even without Saquon Barkley, So I believe they're going to 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:14.480 have success. I believe it's going to be a good 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:18.720 football game. But I think the biggest question is can 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:21.480 you finish the game? And a lot of times when 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:23.680 we think about running the football, that's what we think about. 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:25.720 We think about if we have a great running team. 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:28.720 The greatest blessing of that is when we get into 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:32.160 a close game late where we can just run out 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:35.720 the clock, or we can use the clock and be 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:38.040 more ball controlled and keep the ball away from the 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:41.960 opponent and away from Patrick Mahomes so he can't make 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:45.000 that final drive to beat us. And so that to 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:48.200 me is going to probably be the most telling sign 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:50.960 is when this game comes down late and it's close, 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:54.400 and being a team that's built on running the football, 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:59.080 can that be the thing that finishes this game for 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:02.480 the Eagles, or does once again come down to Patrick 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:05.800 Mahomes and the ball in his hands, and it fall 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:06.960 to their defense. 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:09.760 Having to do it, you know, Kurt, you know talking 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:13.040 about what Paul kind of touched on about the Cardinals 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.360 wanting to run the ball and be that kind of team. 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:17.040 I was looking at a stat the other day that 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:20.800 I think the Cardinals were I think had the fewest 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:23.720 amount of offensive possessions in the league all year, But 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:27.920 as correspondingly, they also had like they had the fewest 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:32.040 amount of defensive times on the field too, which makes sense. 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:34.640 If you're running the ball, there's gonna be fewer possessions 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:35.040 in that game. 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:35.640 I'm curious. 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:39.120 We see Saquon, we see Derek Henry, we see some 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:42.720 of these great run teams. Has there been a shift 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:45.080 you watch so much tape, you watch so much defense. 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:49.040 Has have defenses caught up a little bit to being 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:52.000 able to deal with the passing games in the NFL 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:54.680 these days? Or is this a blip because there's a 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:56.960 couple of great running backs right now and the really 0:16:56.960 --> 0:17:00.000 good teams have them and and this is still probably 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:01.360 first the passing league. 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:06.320 Well, I mean, I think what I've realized over the years, 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:09.159 and even when we say it was a passing league. 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:11.479 Almost every time you get into the playoffs and you 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:15.720 look at the playoff teams, most playoff teams can run 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:19.000 the football and have a solid run game, and it's 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:22.159 a big reason why they're there because at the end 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:24.359 of the day, you know, we can talk about passing 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:26.400 or running, but I think at the end of the day, 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:30.479 what we realize in football is that the trenches is 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:34.840 the most defining factor in success and failure. Winning the 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:38.720 offensive line, winning the defensive line. And so yes, it 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:41.400 could calculate into throwing the football or running the football, 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:44.040 but I think that's one of the things that when 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:46.479 you can run the football, that's one thing you have 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:48.560 to have. That's one thing that you know you have 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:52.399 is an offensive line that can dictate the action of 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:55.880 a game. And so that will never change in my opinion. 0:17:56.800 --> 0:18:00.560 Right there's ways to get around it. There's way to 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:03.480 be successful, you know, when you don't have a dominant 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:07.280 offensive line. But if you have a dominant offensive line, 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:09.640 if you have a dominant defensive line, if you can 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:12.560 run the ball and stop the run when you want to, 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:17.120 that will always go a long way in determining winning teams. 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:21.960 Playoff teams and I think championship teams and so yeah, 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:26.440 I believe that running the football is and always will 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:29.480 be a part of the game. You know, it's just 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:32.280 the rules have you know, lent themselves to doing some 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:34.320 different things in the passing game. And the amazing thing 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:36.920 is that, you know, even when we throw the ball 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:40.280 more we throw the ball first. The number of throws 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:42.520 that are at the line of scrimmage in this day 0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:45.280 and age, to me, is simply just an extension of 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:48.040 the run game. That's saying we want to run the football. 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:49.600 We don't want to put the ball in harms way. 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:52.080 We're not going to throw the ball, you know, thirty 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:54.840 yards down the field every time. We may not have 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:58.119 a dominant offensive line, so this is our way to 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:01.720 supplement running the football and taking some of the risk 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:03.720 out of it. So I think it's just kind of 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:07.760 adjusted maybe how we look at the run game with 0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:11.840 this quick wide receiver, quick screens, bubble screens to your 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:15.280 back type offenses that we see. But running the football 0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:18.320 and winning the offensive line, to me, will always be 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:20.560 a factor in the best teams in the league. 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:22.800 Hall of Famer Kurt Warner on the Big Red Rage 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:25.480 Present of my Santan Ford and Gilbert fifteen years ago. 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:28.320 This week you announced your retirement from the Cardinals. Of course, 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:31.040 you had Larry Fitzgerald. And for everything the Cardinals are 0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:33.040 doing to cram at vertical with the run game, they 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:36.399 added Marvin Harrison Junior last year number four overall? How 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:40.760 much upside is left after his rookie campaign, Kurt, what 0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:43.159 did you see? Where do you think his future is 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:44.680