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Speaker 1: It's a good one, okay, you know what, Darren's here.
Speaker 1: We're also gonna see your Patrick Mahomes and we're gonna
Speaker 1: raise you another heavy hitter. Hall of Fame quarterback Kurt
Speaker 1: Warner is going to be our guest on show number
Speaker 1: seven oh one in the history more than two decades
Speaker 1: of the Big Red Rage. And I bring that up
Speaker 1: because it's funny. How last week for show number seven hundred,
Speaker 1: all the hoopball, you know, and Big Red Rage palooza.
Speaker 1: You know, Wolf was here, you know, but now seven
Speaker 1: oh one, you know where grinders again, you know, tracking
Speaker 1: towards number eight hundred. Wolf just you know, isn't here.
Speaker 1: Supposedly he's under the weather.
Speaker 7: Just under the weather.
Speaker 1: Yeah, why not?
Speaker 7: Like he timed out.
Speaker 6: It's not like Logan's run that old thing where you
Speaker 6: get to a certain amount of episodes and shuffle off
Speaker 6: this mortal coil.
Speaker 1: As far as I know there's not. Maybe it's there's
Speaker 1: only seven hundred in his contract. I'm not really sure
Speaker 1: about those. There are off season changes, which is maybe
Speaker 1: our segue.
Speaker 7: Just dropped the mic and he said, I'm out.
Speaker 1: Into the Cardinals coaching staff. As you may have seen
Speaker 1: if you follow Virginia Tech on social media, you might
Speaker 1: have seen that va Tech Football tweeted out Sam Sifkis
Speaker 1: is their new defensive coordinator, previously known as.
Speaker 6: Linebackers coach for the Cardinals. Okay, I'm working mostly with
Speaker 6: the inside linebackers. So yeah, there's at least that opening
Speaker 6: that Jonathan Gannon's gonna have to fill.
Speaker 1: So we'll see about whether the mic. Linebacker is going
Speaker 1: to be an opening you have to fill. Kaysier White
Speaker 1: maybe the biggest Cardinals free agent that we're looking forward
Speaker 1: to getting an answer to here this offseason. Reports also
Speaker 1: say that Cardinals have parted ways with d line coach
Speaker 1: Derek LeBlanc, so we'll see what that means on the staff.
Speaker 1: But once again, you know.
Speaker 6: And Clayton Adams, the offensive line coach, is interviewed with
Speaker 6: the that's been reported interviewed with the Cowboys to be
Speaker 6: their offensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: So which sort of reminds you last year. Is the exception?
Speaker 1: Right when you maintain the status quo, when there are
Speaker 1: no changes on NFL coaching staff in an offseason, that
Speaker 1: is truly the exception, is it not?
Speaker 6: Yes, because usually you're either wanting to make a change
Speaker 6: or somebody else is moving into a different direction like
Speaker 6: we've seen now, and and you know, it'll be interesting
Speaker 6: to see exactly what happens. I don't know if those
Speaker 6: are the only names we're gonna end up hearing about,
Speaker 6: but you know, you're hoping that, hopefully the coaching staff
Speaker 6: is in place by the time they go to the
Speaker 6: Combine in late February.
Speaker 1: Okay, now speaking to the draft. A couple of items
Speaker 1: this week. Senior Bowl going on, the practices, the Shrine
Speaker 1: Game practices going on. Did you see who stole some
Speaker 1: of the headlines at the Senior Bowl? Not sure I've
Speaker 1: ever said this before, but a fine, diminutive American who
Speaker 1: plays offensive line. North Carolina old lineman Willy Lampkin, measured
Speaker 1: at five to ten, two hundred and seventy pounds. He's like,
Speaker 1: you're a basketball guy. He's like the spud Web of
Speaker 1: the NFL. Yes, I mean I.
Speaker 6: Don't know if I've ever heard of a sub six
Speaker 6: foot offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: The video of him going against six foot seven, three
Speaker 1: hundred and forty pound day One Walker out of Kentucky,
Speaker 1: who's one of the big blue chip prospects, and then
Speaker 1: six foot six, three hundred and forty pound Cam Jackson
Speaker 1: of Florida, two guys who might be on the Cardinals
Speaker 1: radar for all we know, and going locking horns with
Speaker 1: five foot ten Willie Lampkin effect. It was Jackson who
Speaker 1: was Quota said you have to get low, real low.
Speaker 1: That ain't easy. He played me tough, So there's that,
Speaker 1: and then lost.
Speaker 7: Haven't you heard that?
Speaker 1: I heard that? You know what, though, Darren, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at the cut of your jib right now. You need
Speaker 1: you need a mock draft update. You know, it's never
Speaker 1: too early for a draft up day. Here we go.
Speaker 7: We almost got to February without going.
Speaker 1: No, we got to get you a mock draft in January.
Speaker 1: In fact, there are three out. Bucky Brooks one point
Speaker 1: zero has a Cardinals taking James Pierce Junior, an edge
Speaker 1: out of Tennessee sixty five two forty three speed rusher
Speaker 1: off the edge, Daniel Jeremiah one point, oh, Jalen Walker,
Speaker 1: who's been getting a lot of run an edge out
Speaker 1: of Georgia, a little smaller, highly athletic six two two
Speaker 1: forty five, and then mel kiper As the Cardinals going
Speaker 1: at number sixteen. Overall, Tyler Booker might be the best
Speaker 1: guard in the draft out of Alabama.
Speaker 6: I think I saw Jeremiah say he was one of
Speaker 6: the cleanest first round possibilities.
Speaker 1: Yes, like one of the safest picks in the draft.
Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks wrote that Tyler Booker is a bully at
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage with the nastiness needed to set
Speaker 1: their towing up front. Now that is a double ding
Speaker 1: when it comes to Jonathan Gannon and maniastin board. I mean,
Speaker 1: does that not sound like a Kramat vertical sort of
Speaker 1: offensive lineman for this team.
Speaker 6: No, I think that that's exactly the kind of guy
Speaker 6: that they're going to be looking for. And I will
Speaker 6: be fascinated to see exactly how this draft plays out.
Speaker 6: I mean, I think clearly they're going to go lineman
Speaker 6: on that first well, not clearly, but I believe it
Speaker 6: to be true that they're going to go lineman with
Speaker 6: that first pick. Whether it's offensive or defensive line. I
Speaker 6: guess you could throw edge in there as a possibility,
Speaker 6: but we know that they want to build up those
Speaker 6: lines and get tougher in those areas and maybe fill
Speaker 6: some holes that they're potentially going to have, and we
Speaker 6: got a long way to go. Paul, Yeah, I mean
Speaker 6: we are free agency first.
Speaker 1: But they do say that O line and D line
Speaker 1: is pretty stacked this year. It's a pretty strong and
Speaker 1: there are some more unknown edge guys Cardinals I'm sure
Speaker 1: will be evaluating, like the two leading sack artists who
Speaker 1: are both in these All Star Games out of Boston
Speaker 1: College and Marshall a little known but really showed well
Speaker 1: this week, so we'll see how that plays. There's also
Speaker 1: the NFL talk dot com story Unsung Heroes of the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four NFL Season one per team. Did you
Speaker 1: see who was selected on behalf of the Cardinals their
Speaker 1: unsung hero this past season? It's not you, Paul, Garrett Williams.
Speaker 1: Star at it. Garrett Williams. Here's what I didn't realize
Speaker 1: on Garrett Williams. He grated out as Pro Football focuses
Speaker 1: number two corner in coverage behind only Pats or Tan
Speaker 1: what really well?
Speaker 6: Again, I think Garrett Williams took giant strides this year.
Speaker 6: He plays mostly in the slot, which is good in
Speaker 6: a lot of ways. That's another position where I'm fascinated
Speaker 6: to see exactly what direction they go. Do they try
Speaker 6: and spend another high pick on a cornerback perhaps if
Speaker 6: the right guy is there, or are they happy with
Speaker 6: this group that they have right now, which is considerably young,
Speaker 6: but they've added a lot of people in the last
Speaker 6: couple of years. We haven't even talked about Elijah Jones,
Speaker 6: who didn't even get on the field. So that's a
Speaker 6: third round pick that you're going to be adding to
Speaker 6: the mix.
Speaker 1: A right time to talk about the owner of Michael
Speaker 1: Bidwell elected to the Arizona Sports Hall of Fame, and
Speaker 1: none other than Larry Fitzgerald was there to deliver the news,
Speaker 1: and once again in entertaining fashion, it was unbeknownst to
Speaker 1: Michael himself, and it went something like this.
Speaker 8: It's impossible to surprise Michael Bidwell, but if we're going
Speaker 8: to get him today, he thinks I'm here filming some
Speaker 8: promo for the NFL, but that's not what I'm really
Speaker 8: here for. And I can't wait to reveal it to
Speaker 8: you in a little bit.
Speaker 9: What's going on?
Speaker 7: Look at this?
Speaker 8: Give me once I got, I gotta do this one
Speaker 8: more line, give me one second. I don't know on
Speaker 8: behalf of the Arizona Sports Hall of Fame Trustees. Is
Speaker 8: my great honor to inform you, Michael Bidwell, that you
Speaker 8: have been unanimously voted into the Arizona Sports Hall of
Speaker 8: Fame clash of twenty twenty four. And I'm so very
Speaker 8: happy for you, boss man, and I had to come
Speaker 8: down and kid Dad obviously, Jake Plumber, Adrian Wilson, Pat Tillman, myself.
Speaker 8: You man, it's an honor to have you. Thank you,
Speaker 8: Nobody nobody deserves it more for what you've done, not
Speaker 8: only for others on the Cardinals, but the state of
Speaker 8: Arizona in general. I mean, these kids walking around the
Speaker 8: city wearing these jerseys, pulling for this team.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't be possible without you.
Speaker 8: And you know, I'm just so so thankful for you
Speaker 8: and everything you've done. You deserve this moment, You deserve
Speaker 8: this well.
Speaker 10: Thank you.
Speaker 11: Larry means so much having this news come from you,
Speaker 11: and you've led the way in so many different ways.
Speaker 11: You're a member of a number of halls of Fame
Speaker 11: and soon to be the Pro Football Hall of Fame
Speaker 11: here in a year or two.
Speaker 8: But none of that would be possible without you. And
Speaker 8: you know, to think what you've done to elevate this
Speaker 8: organization in the city, it's it's unbelievable. And you know,
Speaker 8: I know greater things to come, you know, with your leadership.
Speaker 8: I appreciate it absolutely, Thank you. I love you.
Speaker 11: I love you too.
Speaker 2: Appreciate it. Wow.
Speaker 11: Okay, so that's what.
Speaker 1: This was about. Oh, you gotta love the Larry laugh
Speaker 1: right there. It's good stuff and they generally surprised Michael Bidwell,
Speaker 1: unbeknownst to him, really well done by the Cardinals TV
Speaker 1: crew in the TV studio, Larry Fitzgerald himself. Fact, you
Speaker 1: can see that the Cardinals have posted that great video
Speaker 1: and once again you heard Larry mention some of the names.
Speaker 1: So it'll be the sixth member of the Cardinals organization
Speaker 1: to be elected to the Arizona Sports Hall of Fame,
Speaker 1: as Michael joins his late father, Bill Bidwell, and then
Speaker 1: Larry himself, Pat Tillman, Adrian Wilson, Jake Plummer's.
Speaker 6: It's definitely a who's who of people that have been
Speaker 6: important as Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 7: So congratulations to Michael. And we're gonna.
Speaker 6: Get to see probably zach Ertz that night too because
Speaker 6: his wife, Juliertz, who's from Arizona.
Speaker 7: Yes, she is also in this class.
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean you talk about heavy hitters, right, Mike
Speaker 1: Bibby is in this class. Julia Ertz, Ricky Hunley, the
Speaker 1: former NFL linebacker out of the U of A, Joe
Speaker 1: Garajolia junior former d Max GM, Paul Konerko.
Speaker 7: Chaparra Go Fires.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I left that one for last I know you
Speaker 1: right there, so he could flex that one on that.
Speaker 1: But what was the other Chaparral news aar there? Okay,
Speaker 1: another Darren so on the Darren Patty on the Darren
Speaker 1: powerpole with two rs in an e. Where does Mugie rank,
Speaker 1: you know? And where do you rank in there?
Speaker 6: And you know it's well, as Danny tweeted out that night,
Speaker 6: our friend Danny sirek, I am the least most important
Speaker 6: Darren that had walked the halls of chaparale I.
Speaker 1: See, hey, you can join the Cardinal season ticket waitlist.
Speaker 1: Always good with Danny holding you accountable for a listen
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Speaker 1: All Right, speaking to heavy hitters, what does a Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame quarterback think of Marvin Arrison Junior's rookie year?
Speaker 1: Where and how can Kyler improve? Patrick Mahomes, how do
Speaker 1: you beat the Chiefs? You know what? Let's ask Kurt
Speaker 1: Warner himself. He joins us. Next. It is the Big
Speaker 1: Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are
Speaker 1: santan Ford because it's a plea flicker. Warner gonna throw
Speaker 1: deep nearside, going for fence.
Speaker 4: He's in double coverage.
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter. He caught it anyway, touchdown, Cardinals.
Speaker 12: Kurt Warner could throw a twinkie into a toaster.
Speaker 1: I mean this guy is on fire.
Speaker 4: Warner with a ton of time throwing right side.
Speaker 8: Fit's open, caught in the five heading for the.
Speaker 4: Pylon, and he is gonna be ruled EO Cardinals.
Speaker 1: Worry Fitzgerald. Warner takes back to throw faith left side.
Speaker 4: Fitzgerald Big Island touchdown, his third of the day.
Speaker 5: It's twenty to sex Arizona.
Speaker 12: Wow, Kurt Warner isn't in the zone.
Speaker 1: He is the zone.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 5: The Cordinals half shot the world.
Speaker 10: It's right but true. The Cards have done.
Speaker 5: They're going to Super Bowl forty three.
Speaker 1: The QB, who was supposedly on the down side of
Speaker 1: his career, showed the world how much upside there really
Speaker 1: was in his game and his team.
Speaker 7: We're nobody else believed in us.
Speaker 1: We're nobody else believed in me.
Speaker 2: You guys did, and we're going to the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: That is from our award winning Cardinals Folktales series, Kurt
Speaker 1: Warner renaissance man on Kurt's Cardinals' career. I'll have you know,
Speaker 1: Darren Urban, that was the fifth most downloaded Cardinals podcast
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, even though the pod posted in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. And it's always an honor to have
Speaker 1: the Hall of Famer himself here on the Big Red
Speaker 1: Rage presented by San tan Ford in Gilbert Kurt Warner. Welcome, Kurt,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna I'm gonna get into my question because
Speaker 1: once Darren gets rolling, there's no stopping him. Okay, you
Speaker 1: just finished talking with Patrick Mahomes getting ready for your
Speaker 1: Super Bowl broadcasts, et cetera. And I mean it's ridiculous, right,
Speaker 1: somebody just nicknamed him the Human Dynasty. He's seventeen and
Speaker 1: three in the playoffs, fifth super Bowl in seven years.
Speaker 1: I saw where Saquon Barkley's said, Look, we wanted to
Speaker 1: send a message a team can still run the ball
Speaker 1: down someone's throat and get to a super Bowl. Okay,
Speaker 1: can you win a Super Bowl that way? Can you
Speaker 1: beat Patrick Mahomes that way? Because the Cardinals seem to
Speaker 1: be tracking that way. And if you don't have Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 1: what do you do? Do you run the ball? And
Speaker 1: will it work in Super Bowl fifty nine?
Speaker 2: Well, I think the bottom line is I think you
Speaker 2: can win a Super Bowl running the football the way
Speaker 2: that Eagles have in most seasons. For sure, we'll get
Speaker 2: a chance to see if they can do it this
Speaker 2: season because you mentioned it is that on paper, I
Speaker 2: look at the Eagles and I think they're the better roster.
Speaker 2: I think they've got more of those big time players
Speaker 2: that have proven themselves, you know, at this level. But
Speaker 2: the Chiefs to have Patrick Mahomes and he is the
Speaker 2: ultimate X actor is that he is so good in
Speaker 2: the moment at making the right decision at keeping a
Speaker 2: game close, and then obviously in the moment, if you
Speaker 2: give him a chance to be able to put the
Speaker 2: dagger in and to win the game. And so I
Speaker 2: have to believe the Eagles are going to have success.
Speaker 2: They have success against them a couple of years ago,
Speaker 2: even without Saquon Barkley, So I believe they're going to
Speaker 2: have success. I believe it's going to be a good
Speaker 2: football game. But I think the biggest question is can
Speaker 2: you finish the game? And a lot of times when
Speaker 2: we think about running the football, that's what we think about.
Speaker 2: We think about if we have a great running team.
Speaker 2: The greatest blessing of that is when we get into
Speaker 2: a close game late where we can just run out
Speaker 2: the clock, or we can use the clock and be
Speaker 2: more ball controlled and keep the ball away from the
Speaker 2: opponent and away from Patrick Mahomes so he can't make
Speaker 2: that final drive to beat us. And so that to
Speaker 2: me is going to probably be the most telling sign
Speaker 2: is when this game comes down late and it's close,
Speaker 2: and being a team that's built on running the football,
Speaker 2: can that be the thing that finishes this game for
Speaker 2: the Eagles, or does once again come down to Patrick
Speaker 2: Mahomes and the ball in his hands, and it fall
Speaker 2: to their defense.
Speaker 6: Having to do it, you know, Kurt, you know talking
Speaker 6: about what Paul kind of touched on about the Cardinals
Speaker 6: wanting to run the ball and be that kind of team.
Speaker 6: I was looking at a stat the other day that
Speaker 6: I think the Cardinals were I think had the fewest
Speaker 6: amount of offensive possessions in the league all year, But
Speaker 6: as correspondingly, they also had like they had the fewest
Speaker 6: amount of defensive times on the field too, which makes sense.
Speaker 6: If you're running the ball, there's gonna be fewer possessions
Speaker 6: in that game.
Speaker 7: I'm curious.
Speaker 6: We see Saquon, we see Derek Henry, we see some
Speaker 6: of these great run teams. Has there been a shift
Speaker 6: you watch so much tape, you watch so much defense.
Speaker 6: Has have defenses caught up a little bit to being
Speaker 6: able to deal with the passing games in the NFL
Speaker 6: these days? Or is this a blip because there's a
Speaker 6: couple of great running backs right now and the really
Speaker 6: good teams have them and and this is still probably
Speaker 6: first the passing league.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think what I've realized over the years,
Speaker 2: and even when we say it was a passing league.
Speaker 2: Almost every time you get into the playoffs and you
Speaker 2: look at the playoff teams, most playoff teams can run
Speaker 2: the football and have a solid run game, and it's
Speaker 2: a big reason why they're there because at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, you know, we can talk about passing
Speaker 2: or running, but I think at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: what we realize in football is that the trenches is
Speaker 2: the most defining factor in success and failure. Winning the
Speaker 2: offensive line, winning the defensive line. And so yes, it
Speaker 2: could calculate into throwing the football or running the football,
Speaker 2: but I think that's one of the things that when
Speaker 2: you can run the football, that's one thing you have
Speaker 2: to have. That's one thing that you know you have
Speaker 2: is an offensive line that can dictate the action of
Speaker 2: a game. And so that will never change in my opinion.
Speaker 2: Right there's ways to get around it. There's way to
Speaker 2: be successful, you know, when you don't have a dominant
Speaker 2: offensive line. But if you have a dominant offensive line,
Speaker 2: if you have a dominant defensive line, if you can
Speaker 2: run the ball and stop the run when you want to,
Speaker 2: that will always go a long way in determining winning teams.
Speaker 2: Playoff teams and I think championship teams and so yeah,
Speaker 2: I believe that running the football is and always will
Speaker 2: be a part of the game. You know, it's just
Speaker 2: the rules have you know, lent themselves to doing some
Speaker 2: different things in the passing game. And the amazing thing
Speaker 2: is that, you know, even when we throw the ball
Speaker 2: more we throw the ball first. The number of throws
Speaker 2: that are at the line of scrimmage in this day
Speaker 2: and age, to me, is simply just an extension of
Speaker 2: the run game. That's saying we want to run the football.
Speaker 2: We don't want to put the ball in harms way.
Speaker 2: We're not going to throw the ball, you know, thirty
Speaker 2: yards down the field every time. We may not have
Speaker 2: a dominant offensive line, so this is our way to
Speaker 2: supplement running the football and taking some of the risk
Speaker 2: out of it. So I think it's just kind of
Speaker 2: adjusted maybe how we look at the run game with
Speaker 2: this quick wide receiver, quick screens, bubble screens to your
Speaker 2: back type offenses that we see. But running the football
Speaker 2: and winning the offensive line, to me, will always be
Speaker 2: a factor in the best teams in the league.
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer Kurt Warner on the Big Red Rage
Speaker 1: Present of my Santan Ford and Gilbert fifteen years ago.
Speaker 1: This week you announced your retirement from the Cardinals. Of course,
Speaker 1: you had Larry Fitzgerald. And for everything the Cardinals are
Speaker 1: doing to cram at vertical with the run game, they
Speaker 1: added Marvin Harrison Junior last year number four overall? How
Speaker 1: much upside is left after his rookie campaign, Kurt, what
Speaker 1: did you see? Where do you think his future is
Speaker 1: tracking Marvin Harrison Junior.
Speaker 2: Well, I think the beginning of the year, I think
Speaker 2: it was a transition for him to understand kind of
Speaker 2: the physicality of the NFL and maybe just the speed
Speaker 2: and talent at the NFL level that I really felt
Speaker 2: like in college when I watched him, he would win
Speaker 2: a lot based on just physical ability. You know, people
Speaker 2: that were scared of him so they played way off
Speaker 2: or you know, his physical ability where he could just
Speaker 2: run by guys and he didn't have to win a
Speaker 2: lot with route running, so to speak. And so I
Speaker 2: think you saw that early in the year. But then
Speaker 2: I think you saw him grow in those areas as
Speaker 2: the season went along, where he got more physical, he
Speaker 2: could create separation against press coverage, you know, down the
Speaker 2: stretch of the year, that is, route running became a
Speaker 2: little bit better, and he became a better understanding, had
Speaker 2: a better understanding of how he needed to run routes
Speaker 2: to get open. He was he was a threat in
Speaker 2: the red zone, which is always a good thing, you know,
Speaker 2: in those early stages. So, I mean, I think there's
Speaker 2: still a long way to go for Marvin Harrison in
Speaker 2: terms of, you know, coupling what his physical skill is
Speaker 2: with the understanding of how to play the NFL games.
Speaker 2: So I expect him to get incrementally better for the
Speaker 2: next few years as he continues to grow into those things.
Speaker 2: But you know, to me, the biggest thing you always
Speaker 2: want to see with young guys is growth, and to me,
Speaker 2: I saw that with Marvin Harrison Junior threw out the year.
Speaker 2: Is that I saw the growth from week one to
Speaker 2: where he was at the end of the season. You
Speaker 2: saw him improved in some of those areas that he
Speaker 2: struggled early on. So that has to excite anybody in
Speaker 2: the organization or Cardinals stands that, hey, he's just learning it.
Speaker 2: And you know, we often say the biggest drives for
Speaker 2: any players are made between their first and second year.
Speaker 2: So they come in they got to learn it. They
Speaker 2: got to figure it out, and they got to see
Speaker 2: what it's all about, and they got to prove to
Speaker 2: themselves that they can play and what they're capable of doing.
Speaker 2: And so as they get into that first offseason into
Speaker 2: that second year, now they get a chance to hit
Speaker 2: the ground run. And so I'm excited to see where
Speaker 2: he is when he comes back in the second year.
Speaker 6: I know you're not necessarily watching the Cardinals play by
Speaker 6: play or breaking down every single game they have, but
Speaker 6: from a thirty fouved everyone, Okay, well, then I apologize, Kurt.
Speaker 6: I should have known better when you look at kind
Speaker 6: of a thirty thousand foot view of this team and
Speaker 6: where it is right now and going into the third
Speaker 6: year of a GM and a coach trying to rebuild
Speaker 6: from the ground up, kind of where do you see
Speaker 6: the Cardinals right now?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think they were a good football team.
Speaker 2: I think the one thing that I've been impressed with
Speaker 2: since coach Cannad has got there is their effort and
Speaker 2: their competitiveness every single week that they're a team that
Speaker 2: you have to contend with. You know, while they figure
Speaker 2: out those pieces that they're missing, maybe some dominant players
Speaker 2: on their defensive line and guys that can really get
Speaker 2: after the quarterback. I think it's going to be key there,
Speaker 2: you know, continually to develop their passing. You know, Trade
Speaker 2: mcgrid obviously came into his own this year and really,
Speaker 2: you know, you could argue was the best tight end
Speaker 2: of the league this year. Obviously, James Connor is one
Speaker 2: of those star warks that you could count on it
Speaker 2: and it really kind of went through him. Uh, you
Speaker 2: know Marvin Harrison who we just talked about, you know,
Speaker 2: if he elevates his game. But adding a couple other
Speaker 2: pieces I think they're on the offensive side is going
Speaker 2: to to help as well. But you know, so so
Speaker 2: I think their their pass game just has to develop
Speaker 2: to be able to match their run game. And and
Speaker 2: that's kind of you know, what I saw with this
Speaker 2: team is that when they were able to run the
Speaker 2: football and the and the pass game could truly be
Speaker 2: a compliment. They were a good football team. When they
Speaker 2: struggled to run the football and the pass game had
Speaker 2: to become the primary is where they struggled more. And
Speaker 2: so that's to me where they have to develop, you know,
Speaker 2: what that is and what their identity is and and
Speaker 2: and where Kyler can can thrive in getting the ball
Speaker 2: down the field a little bit more than than they
Speaker 2: were you know, then they were capable or that they
Speaker 2: did this past year. And so that to me is
Speaker 2: just from a scheme standpoint, where I see that, you know,
Speaker 2: them needing to make strive to compete against the best
Speaker 2: teams in the league is you have to be able
Speaker 2: to win away from your strengths at times, and you know,
Speaker 2: and I felt they struggled to do that consistently last year.
Speaker 2: You know, we know the talent level that Kyler has,
Speaker 2: and we've seen the moments, the incredible moments that he's had,
Speaker 2: and so they have to figure out how to get
Speaker 2: that consistently into the passame and making sure that you
Speaker 2: know what they're doing and what they're asking of him
Speaker 2: meshes with all the things that he does really really well.
Speaker 1: And as they continue to unlock Kyler Murray, give us
Speaker 1: one area where Kyler can improve. We could do a
Speaker 1: whole interview just on Kyler, but maybe give us one
Speaker 1: area he should focus on going into year seven of
Speaker 1: his career.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, for me, I think it's just kind
Speaker 2: of the patience of getting from receiver number one to
Speaker 2: receiver number two. Is that I think how there's really
Speaker 2: good when number one is open and you know he
Speaker 2: knows where he wants to go with it, and he
Speaker 2: can put that back to the ground and throw it.
Speaker 2: He's really good. He's a gifted thrower. He can make special,
Speaker 2: special throws. And then another thing I think he does
Speaker 2: really well is he's good at going from one and
Speaker 2: not really knowing where to go from there, but getting
Speaker 2: it to his checkdowns. He's really good at knowing where
Speaker 2: his checkdowns are, and so he creates a lot of
Speaker 2: positive plays, plays that I think early on he tried
Speaker 2: to make all the time with his legs. Now he
Speaker 2: doesn't have to. The game's become easier because it's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I don't see it down the field, let me get
Speaker 2: it to the checkdown, let me get it to James,
Speaker 2: and we'll pick up four, five, six yards and so
Speaker 2: we're able to make positive plays. But I still believe
Speaker 2: that the best offenses in the league are those teams
Speaker 2: that can consistently make those kind of mid range chunk
Speaker 2: throws to make the game easier. So you don't have
Speaker 2: to make ten and twelve play drives to be successful.
Speaker 2: So his ability to kind of have the patience and
Speaker 2: timing to get from one to two and make more
Speaker 2: of those number two tight throws down the field is
Speaker 2: I believe they have to improve where Kyler has to
Speaker 2: improve because he does a number of things right with
Speaker 2: number one and getting to his checkdowns, but that mid
Speaker 2: range is just having the patients to kind of stick
Speaker 2: in there, see it and then deliver more of those
Speaker 2: chunk throws. I think is what this You know this
Speaker 2: offense need.
Speaker 1: Twenty five years ago today, Kurt Warner won a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl with the Rams when they beat the Titans. How
Speaker 1: about that, Darren. He was up pretty good that game,
Speaker 1: and I saw where Cam Newton, as we wrap this up,
Speaker 1: was asked on first take if he could give back
Speaker 1: his MVP for a Super Bowl championship, and he said no.
Speaker 1: The good news is Kirk doesn't have to worry about
Speaker 1: that because he has both them. And we thank you
Speaker 1: Kurt for your time, always your pleasure.
Speaker 2: Thanks you got it, guys, Always great to talk to you.
Speaker 1: All Right, we continue with the Big Red Rage. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about the Pro Bowl, we'll talk about the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl when we come back. It's the Big Red Rage
Speaker 1: Presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert we are santan Ford.
Speaker 4: Jet sweet here side McBride sniff arming touchdown Fray McBride
Speaker 4: on the handoff.
Speaker 7: McBride is so good running the football.
Speaker 4: Cardinals rush by and Travil Smith steps up. Sack by
Speaker 4: Budha Baker hot By. McBride wrapped up broke and tackled
Speaker 4: though and then he hurdles an defender at the forty.
Speaker 4: That was gronk esque. You can't control Trey McBride. Blitz
Speaker 4: coming Rodgers has no chance. Sack by Fooda Baker.
Speaker 1: It's Tray McBride on a quick, tight end screen and
Speaker 1: into the end zone. Trey McBride who finds paydirt.
Speaker 7: Bludda Baker came off the edge clean.
Speaker 4: And Aaron Rodgers got his backwax between four jets. The
Speaker 4: ball is caught by Trey McBride.
Speaker 1: Trey McBride, you are a bad, bad man.
Speaker 7: Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: When your best players are also your best exams to
Speaker 1: other players of how to compete, how to practice, how
Speaker 1: to study, how to prep. I mean, how do you
Speaker 1: put a price on that goes way beyond just the stats.
Speaker 1: With Trey McBride and Buddha Baker.
Speaker 7: Well, Trey McBride's probably gonna try this offseason.
Speaker 1: That's a good point. But first he's enjoining his offseason
Speaker 1: of course, like earlier today at Disney World, joining other
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl players as they went around. I don't know
Speaker 1: is he wearing any of the Mickey ears, the Mickey
Speaker 1: Mouse ears.
Speaker 7: I not that I saw, all right, but he is
Speaker 7: a big kid.
Speaker 1: If there was one guy who's gonna wear the Mickey
Speaker 1: Mouse ears, I could see Trey McBride.
Speaker 7: I could see that.
Speaker 1: It is a big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford
Speaker 1: and Gilbert Darren urban in for Ron Wolfley, and guess what,
Speaker 1: let's just get right into this and look, we can
Speaker 1: talk all we want about the stats and one hundred
Speaker 1: eleven catches for Trey McBride, one hundred and sixty four
Speaker 1: tackles for Buddha Baker, number two in the NFL, But
Speaker 1: once again, when other players, when their teammates say it,
Speaker 1: it just means that much more. Let's flash back to
Speaker 1: the Big Red Rage. Darren, give me your thoughts and
Speaker 1: what Darius Robinson had to say about Buddha Baker's setting
Speaker 1: the standard, just the.
Speaker 10: Motor he plays that then the instinct to be where
Speaker 10: the ball is at and then to actually get people
Speaker 10: on the ground. You know, I literally just try to
Speaker 10: follow him everything he does because he is the standard
Speaker 10: of an elite football player, standard of our organization. So
Speaker 10: if that's like what I want to envision myself, and
Speaker 10: hopefully someone talks like me like one day, like I
Speaker 10: have to find a way to be like Buddha.
Speaker 1: And that's in addition to what Darius Robinson said when
Speaker 1: he came back off the injured list, where just watching
Speaker 1: from the sideline this year during his rookie year, that
Speaker 1: Buddha was probably the best player he's ever seen. In
Speaker 1: the words of Darius Robinson.
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna lie like those kind of comments like
Speaker 6: it kind of stunned me a little bit, you know,
Speaker 6: because it's not like they're in the same room. Obviously
Speaker 6: they're both on the same defense. But Darius Robinson, unless
Speaker 6: he's watching on TV, if the game's going on, he
Speaker 6: ain't seeing what Budda's doing back there. But I will
Speaker 6: say that he's picked a good role model clearly, Dang,
Speaker 6: And we've talked about this stuff before other platforms, Paul,
Speaker 6: like I am, I just think it made so much
Speaker 6: sense to make sure Buddha Baker continued his career here
Speaker 6: with this contract extension. It got weird there for a
Speaker 6: little bit when he wanted the extension with another change,
Speaker 6: and to Buddha's to defend Buddha a little bit, like
Speaker 6: when all that happened there was he had another coaching change,
Speaker 6: and he had another defensive coordinator. I can understand where
Speaker 6: a guy who's been in the league for a while
Speaker 6: would get feeling some type of way about it.
Speaker 1: And I mean, he's had four different head coaches.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 6: And again he wanted the contract extension, but just to
Speaker 6: you know, that was the one thing he could control,
Speaker 6: would be maybe getting a thing. But I think that
Speaker 6: he is very much in lockstep with what Nick Rollis
Speaker 6: wants to do, with what Jonathan Ganna wants to do
Speaker 6: in terms of not only defense but culture, and it
Speaker 6: just it makes all the sense in the world to
Speaker 6: have him back. So I love where he is in
Speaker 6: his career, and I love again the stuff that rubs
Speaker 6: off on a player like Darius Robinson.
Speaker 1: When Rabbit right rookie safety says I purposely sit next
Speaker 1: to Buddha Baker all year long, just to hear him
Speaker 1: and Jalen Thompson talk football, so I can absorb that
Speaker 1: the osmosis when a starling Thomas attaches himself to Buddha's
Speaker 1: hip the entire offseason they trained together.
Speaker 6: Just don't call Buddha vintage. At one point I said
Speaker 6: to him, this year you made that mistake. Has there
Speaker 6: been a is this kind of like I think it
Speaker 6: was a certain game I brought up. I said, was
Speaker 6: that a vintage Buddha Baker performance or has this been
Speaker 6: a vintage Buddha Baker year? And he was He smiled,
Speaker 6: but he's like, yeah, don't let's not go vintage. That
Speaker 6: makes me sound old. I mean he's not even thirty yet.
Speaker 1: No, no, and he just had a career year once again.
Speaker 7: And you always vintage.
Speaker 1: Props to Nick Rowlis and Jonathan Gannon for unlocking and
Speaker 1: maximizing Buddha Bakery. Same could be said for Trey McBride.
Speaker 1: One hundred eleven catches that as a team record for
Speaker 1: team that includes Jackie Smith among its alums. And here
Speaker 1: he is about being named to us first Pro Bowl.
Speaker 9: Something you dream about as a little kid. You know,
Speaker 9: obviously you want to make it to the pros and
Speaker 9: then you want to be the best. This is just
Speaker 9: one step, you know, into that right direction. This is
Speaker 9: a huge honor for me. Proud just to bring this
Speaker 9: back home where I'm from. Just a huge honor for
Speaker 9: not only me, my community, my family, and obviously this
Speaker 9: organization you know, hasn't been done by a tight end
Speaker 9: in a very long time. So this is just a
Speaker 9: huge honor for not only me, but this organization and everybody.
Speaker 1: And I'll be honest, if we're in the trust tree,
Speaker 1: you know, midway through his rookie year, you're wondering, okay,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, first tight end taken in that draft
Speaker 1: there is you know, high second round pick, mid second
Speaker 1: round pick, and then it took a while, It took
Speaker 1: the aforementioned zach Ertz and clearing the way for Trey
Speaker 1: McBride to really blossom and learn on the job. And
Speaker 1: the more opportunities he's had just seemingly the better he's been.
Speaker 1: What we talk so much about Marvin Harrison Junior's upside,
Speaker 1: how much upside do you think Trey McBride still has.
Speaker 6: Well, he's pretty high up there right now in my opinion,
Speaker 6: with what he does and how he does it. You know,
Speaker 6: it's funny Trey comes across as very he's a humble
Speaker 6: He's humble.
Speaker 1: He is, but but on game day.
Speaker 6: He and I don't think it's just game day. He
Speaker 6: burns to be really freaking good. And I think he
Speaker 6: believes he's good. When I say he's humble, I think
Speaker 6: it's one of those ones where he is humble, like
Speaker 6: when he takes it down a notch and he's talking
Speaker 6: to people. But I think if you got Trey McBride
Speaker 6: on the on the true serum, you you you'd hear
Speaker 6: a guy that definitely believes that he absolutely can be
Speaker 6: the best in the game.
Speaker 1: And let's just say there have been times in the
Speaker 1: moment in the game where he's told defenders you can't
Speaker 1: cover me, and he's had that same exchange even with
Speaker 1: Buddha Baker in practice. Both him and Buddha have talked
Speaker 1: about how they go back and forth. In fact, here's
Speaker 1: Buddha on Trey McBride making his first Pro Bowl.
Speaker 13: He's always been that guy to to catch the brock
Speaker 13: and to block and do everything that is necessary for
Speaker 13: a tight end to be great in this league. And
Speaker 13: I knew he was going to be great his rookie
Speaker 13: year and now that he's here, made his first Pro
Speaker 13: Bowl of you know, he was in a hot til
Speaker 13: when I seen him and just had to shake his
Speaker 13: hand and say congratulations. He's earned it, and I think
Speaker 13: he's one of the best tight ends in this league,
Speaker 13: and Monty's got to make him the highest paid.
Speaker 1: There he goes his representation Buddha Baker as Trey McBride.
Speaker 7: He's not zip but one when they go to talk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so which in okay, he's now eligible right for
Speaker 1: a contract extension any day. Now, I'm sure any of it,
Speaker 1: just don't maybe not any Well, this offseat, we'll see,
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens exactly. We'll say this because you
Speaker 1: know what, we'll keep Trey mcplay humble, get into the
Speaker 1: end zone. That's obviously a box that he wants to check.
Speaker 1: You know, it's remarkable when you look at, for example,
Speaker 1: a Ravens team, Mark Andrews and Isaiah likely combined for
Speaker 1: seventeen touchdown catches this year. So, okay, you know what
Speaker 1: more is there in regards to Trey mcbriden the red zone,
Speaker 1: because we saw them and it was remarkable to see
Speaker 1: the efficiency. Right, he'd have ten catches on ten targets.
Speaker 6: I think when you go to the touchdown, let's die.
Speaker 6: I mean, this is a bigger picture thing. Kyler Murray
Speaker 6: only had twenty one touchdown passes and that came with
Speaker 6: four in the last game. So I think this team
Speaker 6: needs to find a way to get touchdown passes more often,
Speaker 6: not just to Trey McBride, but more often period.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, we said in the off season, right, you're always
Speaker 1: looking to get better. Finish finish drives, finish games, finish seasons.
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Speaker 7: We'll finish the showdown, right, is that what we could do?
Speaker 1: Sure, let's do that. In fact, you know what, speaking
Speaker 1: to the State Farm Stadium, it's a rematch of Super
Speaker 1: Bowl fifty seven, and we'll talk about Eagles and Chiefs
Speaker 1: next on the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford
Speaker 1: in Gilbert.
Speaker 12: Zero of the Clark, the Player with Life Skyward and
Speaker 12: the Eagles not just beat but annihilate the Washington Commanders
Speaker 12: fifty five to twenty three.
Speaker 5: What a day?
Speaker 12: Want to win?
Speaker 1: One a crown? What a team won a season? But
Speaker 1: it's not over yet.
Speaker 5: One more snap puts the Lamar Hunt Trophy right back
Speaker 5: into the Kansas City Trophy case.
Speaker 8: Going to a knee.
Speaker 1: You can't doubt the Chiefs.
Speaker 5: You can dislike the Chiefs, you can disrespect the Chiefs.
Speaker 7: You're gonna have to deal with the.
Speaker 5: Chiefs being the first team in National Football League history
Speaker 5: to win back to back Super Bowls and go to
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl for a chance for a three peat.
Speaker 1: Facts, deal with a Darren Urban. Mitch Holt is breaking
Speaker 1: it down for you. Merril Reese with the Eagles the
Speaker 1: final calls, if.
Speaker 6: That's what he's saying, Now, what happens if they win
Speaker 6: the Super Bowl? What's he gonna say after that?
Speaker 1: That's true, where'd he leave himself? Where's he going with
Speaker 1: the next call? If they do indeed win? And you
Speaker 1: know what, for everyone who's been trying to deal with
Speaker 1: Chiefs fatigue, well, guess what you're watching because they just
Speaker 1: set a record TV rating, best AFC Championship game audience
Speaker 1: ever with over fifty seven million viewers for a Kansas
Speaker 1: City team that has now won an NFL record seventeen
Speaker 1: straight one possession games. They have won nine straight playoff games.
Speaker 1: That's crazy, I mean. And we had a chance to
Speaker 1: talk with Kurt Warner earlier in the show just about
Speaker 1: the greatness that is Patrick Mahomes. And my contention all
Speaker 1: week long has been, Okay, what do you do to
Speaker 1: beat the best player on the planet? Can you form
Speaker 1: the best team on the planet? And Kurt talked about that,
Speaker 1: trying to build the offensive line if you're Philadelphia, and
Speaker 1: they have done Man, they have done that, and they've
Speaker 1: also had the NFL's leading rusher. In fact, there's another
Speaker 1: stat The last time a team won a Super Bowl
Speaker 1: with a rushing champion was the Broncos with Terrell Davis
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 7: Much different game, Paul, Yes, it.
Speaker 1: Is, thank you. So how competitive do you think this
Speaker 1: game will be?
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, I fully expect it to be competitive
Speaker 7: on a couple different levels.
Speaker 6: I know the teams are a lot different than they
Speaker 6: were a couple of years ago, but they played an
Speaker 6: unbelievable Super Bowl a couple of years ago at State
Speaker 6: Farm Stadium. I expected to be close because the Chiefs.
Speaker 6: Every game the Chiefs play is close, so why would
Speaker 6: this be any different?
Speaker 1: Including Super Bowl fifty seven they rallied from down ten
Speaker 1: at halftime and then they won on the airskin Butker
Speaker 1: field goal five.
Speaker 6: I mean, heck, we we can just stick with this
Speaker 6: year and they play a tight game every week. Yeah,
Speaker 6: they won all of them, but they were all like
Speaker 6: razor thin margin. So I expect this to be a
Speaker 6: really good game. I am one of the very few
Speaker 6: people apparently out there that doesn't have Chiefs fatigue and
Speaker 6: in fact not a big Eagles guy, so I will
Speaker 6: totally be hoping that the Chiefs win a third straight
Speaker 6: Super Bowl. So but I expect it to be good.
Speaker 6: I understand the people that are kind of bummed out
Speaker 6: that either the Lions or the Bills or both didn't
Speaker 6: get here, because those were some feel good stories in
Speaker 6: a lot of ways, But uh, you know, quite frankly,
Speaker 6: unless the Cardinals are gonna get there, which would drastically
Speaker 6: change how I would view the prism of the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6: It's it's a super Bowl. You're gonna watch it, and
Speaker 6: no matter who's.
Speaker 1: In it, and you know what's That's why I find myself.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch the game, absolutely obviously, but I'm probably
Speaker 1: not going to consume as much of the hooplah in
Speaker 1: New Orleans all next week going up to the game,
Speaker 1: just because sort of you've been there, you've done that.
Speaker 1: You know the players, you know the coaches, you know
Speaker 1: the backstories.
Speaker 7: Are you a hoopla guy?
Speaker 1: Anyways, I try and participate theren.
Speaker 7: I'm really honest, like I's trying to do a good.
Speaker 1: Job faking it if nothing else.
Speaker 7: Well, okay, I've heard that about you.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, Jalen Hurts, let me ask you this, Okay.
Speaker 1: He ran for three touchdowns. He also completed twenty to
Speaker 1: twenty eight passes for two forty six and another touchdown.
Speaker 1: After the game, he said, quote, well, yeah, Nick, let
Speaker 1: me out of my straight jacket a little bit today.
Speaker 1: What'd you make of that drama? And and do you
Speaker 1: think they open up Jalen Hurts a little bit more?
Speaker 1: Or when you have Saquon Barkley in the best offensive
Speaker 1: line in the game. No, no, no, no, no, just be
Speaker 1: captain checkdown.
Speaker 6: Honestly, you know what, the first thing I thought of
Speaker 6: Paul when I heard that whole thing, and it kind
Speaker 6: of made me smile when Nick's here and it says, oh,
Speaker 6: he was just kind of joking around. He didn't, you know,
Speaker 6: it wasn't anything. Yeah, it was, of course it was.
Speaker 6: You don't say it if it didn't. The first thing
Speaker 6: I think of is, to a certain extent, I hear
Speaker 6: Kyler Murray in the back of my head because the
Speaker 6: Cardinals are a very good running team, and when they've
Speaker 6: had a good couple good games this year where they
Speaker 6: won and they passed the ball, and you kind of
Speaker 6: hear Kyler talking about, you know, it's good to pass
Speaker 6: the ball and it's good to throw it around.
Speaker 7: Like quarterbacks want to throw the ball. The Eagles want
Speaker 7: to throw the ball. Jalen Hurst wants to throw the ball.
Speaker 7: Aj Brown wants to catch the ball. DeVonta Smith wants
Speaker 7: to catch the ball. Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 6: And don't get me wrong, I'm sure they love Saquon
Speaker 6: bark running for eight thousand yards, but they still want
Speaker 6: to be able to do what they do.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 6: Do I think they need to stick to what they've
Speaker 6: been doing to win the Super Bowl? I do, but
Speaker 6: I'll be curious. You know, they ran up the score
Speaker 6: on the Commanders. Chiefs defense is something different than the
Speaker 6: commander's defense. I'm telling you that right now. So are
Speaker 6: they going to be able to have that kind of success?
Speaker 6: I will be curious.
Speaker 1: I mean, for example, you're watching Buffalo and Kansas City
Speaker 1: in that AFC Championship game, and I know I have
Speaker 1: company in this regard. The game is hanging in the balance,
Speaker 1: and where's James Cook? Yeah, where is James Cook? In
Speaker 1: that game? He didn't have nearly enough touches and when
Speaker 1: he did touch the ball, he was really dynamic. And
Speaker 1: we all know Saquon Barkley is every bit the running
Speaker 1: back of James Cook. So with that in mind, I
Speaker 1: do wonder, you know, if Phildelphia comes in and you
Speaker 1: know what, Jyalen, that's great, But here's the straight jacket again,
Speaker 1: and we're just gonna plow straight ahead.
Speaker 6: I would think that that's what you would be going
Speaker 6: into it thinking. I mean, why wouldn't you. I mean,
Speaker 6: Saquon Barkley legitimately has an argument to be in the
Speaker 6: MVP conversation. I don't think he was because I'm I'm
Speaker 6: a if you got a really great quarterback, that's gonna
Speaker 6: trump a running back to me.
Speaker 1: But and by the way. Just look at Lamar Jackson's
Speaker 1: rushing numbers this year. He almost ran for a thousand yards. So,
Speaker 1: but what with the NFL can't afford is to have
Speaker 1: a close win by Kansas City and have it be
Speaker 1: controversial for any sort of officiating.
Speaker 6: I've got I've grown tired of that one too. I
Speaker 6: I look, I spent I spent a large amount of
Speaker 6: parenting my youngest son in different sports, but but basketball especially, Like, dude,
Speaker 6: every time your team loses, it's not the ref's fault.
Speaker 6: And again, I get, I get it where there's a
Speaker 6: couple of things, but I'm like, come on, like, what
Speaker 6: are we doing here?
Speaker 1: Well, to that end, former Chiefs All Pro tackle Mitchell Schwartz,
Speaker 1: who who won the twenty nineteen Super Bowl with Kansas,
Speaker 1: he tweeted out, maybe the Chiefs are better coached, and
Speaker 1: maybe they don't hit quarterbacks late or hit him in
Speaker 1: the head or the neck. Back in my day, way
Speaker 1: back in twenty nineteen, teams who got less penalties called
Speaker 1: were considered better coached. Insane, And you can't argue with
Speaker 1: Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes record their fifth Super Bowl
Speaker 1: in seven years when the games are hanging into the
Speaker 1: balance and the biggest moments, they're at their best or
Speaker 1: at least better than you.
Speaker 6: And some of this is just the name, the circumstances,
Speaker 6: The details changed, but everything stays the same. I guarantee
Speaker 6: you if we got off this radio show, I could
Speaker 6: go on the internet and quickly find five examples of
Speaker 6: somebody being quoted as saying, boy, you just breathe on
Speaker 6: Tom Brady and it's a penalty?
Speaker 7: What is this? They get all the calls.
Speaker 1: By the way, the last time Kansas City lost a
Speaker 1: playoff game, it was to maybe the only other quarterback
Speaker 1: who's better than Patrick Mahomes in the clutch. Dare I
Speaker 1: say it? Joe Burrow, Joe cool, Joe.
Speaker 7: Burrow in the moment a lifetime ago.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's a seem like that. What other beyond the
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks and beyond Saquon Barkley? I mean, how do
Speaker 1: you weigh Chris Jones the key to the game, and
Speaker 1: then Kansas City defense? How about you know, Jalen Carter
Speaker 1: and that Eagles defense, which is talented at all three levels.
Speaker 6: Obviously, I'll be fascinated to see the Chiefs have not
Speaker 6: looked great offensively consistently all season, They've done just enough.
Speaker 6: They got thirty two points last week, so I'm curious
Speaker 6: to see. Is this kind of a new Chiefs offense
Speaker 6: for the playoffs where they put enough in their back
Speaker 6: pocket that they can spring it out there. I think
Speaker 6: you can score some points on the Eagles. The question
Speaker 6: is can the Eagles score the points? And they've proven
Speaker 6: they have all season to make this a really good game.
Speaker 6: And I do think it's going to be a good
Speaker 6: game one way or the other, and it'll.
Speaker 1: Probably be record TV ratings. We'll see as history hangs
Speaker 1: in the balance. Can an NFL team three peat? Special?
Speaker 1: Thanks again Kurt Warner, Hall of Famer, joining us talking
Speaker 1: about the Super Bowl and the Cardinals Executive producer Jim
Speaker 1: al Mahundro, Associate producer Cody Fincher, Tech Nicol director Ali
Speaker 1: Narini or Darren Urban and Paul calvec Wolf get well.
Speaker 7: Hopefully hopefully comes back. We don't know.
Speaker 1: We'll see off season. You never know. I mean, maybe
Speaker 1: he's making some sort of contract statement right now heading
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