1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Stramp on the boots and scrape. 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 2: Up the knuckles on ahead. He got jacked. 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 3: This is the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 3: and Gilbert. 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 4: Terry's gonna score touchdown Slim to the ground by Buddha Banker. 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 4: Like a torpedo, he keeps flying into the backfield. 7 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 3: The rage is brought to you by santan Ford and 8 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 3: Gilbert right on the Price, right on the corner of 9 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 3: the Santan two to two Freeway in Valves. 10 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 4: Want a Crab by Trey McBride that was spectacular. 11 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 3: And by Arizona Cardinals podcast. Visit Azycardinals dot com Slash Podcast, All. 12 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 5: Red Seas, Rising Uard, Jump You, Rising Vision, Flurry Rage, 13 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 5: take it over. 14 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:51,639 Speaker 3: Here's Paul Calvic. 15 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: I'm ready. I'm one hundred percent ready. I'm telling you 16 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: I'm ready. And Darren Urban I'll. 17 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 4: Above this RUPI kid right. 18 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 6: The field. 19 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: It's football. It's about execution. Can we can we execute 20 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: the impossible game plan? Can we talk NFL? Make it interesting, 21 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 1: make it informative and not succumb to Chiefs fatigue. It's 22 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: gonna be tough, but you know what, when you're the 23 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: original Thursday night football, you enjoy a good challenge. Paul 24 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: Calvic here, Darren Urban over there, Darren, do you accept 25 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: the challenge? Here? In this episode of The Big Red Rage, 26 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert, we are Santane for. 27 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 7: I'm just here so I don't cant find Paul. 28 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: It's a good one, okay, you know what, Darren's here. 29 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: We're also gonna see your Patrick Mahomes and we're gonna 30 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: raise you another heavy hitter. Hall of Fame quarterback Kurt 31 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: Warner is going to be our guest on show number 32 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: seven oh one in the history more than two decades 33 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: of the Big Red Rage. And I bring that up 34 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: because it's funny. How last week for show number seven hundred, 35 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: all the hoopball, you know, and Big Red Rage palooza. 36 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: You know, Wolf was here, you know, but now seven 37 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: oh one, you know where grinders again, you know, tracking 38 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: towards number eight hundred. Wolf just you know, isn't here. 39 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: Supposedly he's under the weather. 40 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 7: Just under the weather. 41 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, why not? 42 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 7: Like he timed out. 43 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 6: It's not like Logan's run that old thing where you 44 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 6: get to a certain amount of episodes and shuffle off 45 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 6: this mortal coil. 46 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: As far as I know there's not. Maybe it's there's 47 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: only seven hundred in his contract. I'm not really sure 48 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: about those. There are off season changes, which is maybe 49 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: our segue. 50 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 7: Just dropped the mic and he said, I'm out. 51 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: Into the Cardinals coaching staff. As you may have seen 52 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: if you follow Virginia Tech on social media, you might 53 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: have seen that va Tech Football tweeted out Sam Sifkis 54 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: is their new defensive coordinator, previously known as. 55 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 6: Linebackers coach for the Cardinals. Okay, I'm working mostly with 56 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 6: the inside linebackers. So yeah, there's at least that opening 57 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 6: that Jonathan Gannon's gonna have to fill. 58 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: So we'll see about whether the mic. Linebacker is going 59 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: to be an opening you have to fill. Kaysier White 60 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: maybe the biggest Cardinals free agent that we're looking forward 61 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: to getting an answer to here this offseason. Reports also 62 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: say that Cardinals have parted ways with d line coach 63 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: Derek LeBlanc, so we'll see what that means on the staff. 64 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 1: But once again, you know. 65 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 6: And Clayton Adams, the offensive line coach, is interviewed with 66 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 6: the that's been reported interviewed with the Cowboys to be 67 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 6: their offensive coordinator. 68 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: So which sort of reminds you last year. Is the exception? 69 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: Right when you maintain the status quo, when there are 70 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: no changes on NFL coaching staff in an offseason, that 71 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: is truly the exception, is it not? 72 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 6: Yes, because usually you're either wanting to make a change 73 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 6: or somebody else is moving into a different direction like 74 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 6: we've seen now, and and you know, it'll be interesting 75 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 6: to see exactly what happens. I don't know if those 76 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 6: are the only names we're gonna end up hearing about, 77 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 6: but you know, you're hoping that, hopefully the coaching staff 78 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 6: is in place by the time they go to the 79 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 6: Combine in late February. 80 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: Okay, now speaking to the draft. A couple of items 81 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: this week. Senior Bowl going on, the practices, the Shrine 82 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: Game practices going on. Did you see who stole some 83 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: of the headlines at the Senior Bowl? Not sure I've 84 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: ever said this before, but a fine, diminutive American who 85 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: plays offensive line. North Carolina old lineman Willy Lampkin, measured 86 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: at five to ten, two hundred and seventy pounds. He's like, 87 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: you're a basketball guy. He's like the spud Web of 88 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 1: the NFL. Yes, I mean I. 89 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 6: Don't know if I've ever heard of a sub six 90 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 6: foot offensive lineman. 91 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: The video of him going against six foot seven, three 92 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: hundred and forty pound day One Walker out of Kentucky, 93 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: who's one of the big blue chip prospects, and then 94 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: six foot six, three hundred and forty pound Cam Jackson 95 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: of Florida, two guys who might be on the Cardinals 96 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: radar for all we know, and going locking horns with 97 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: five foot ten Willie Lampkin effect. It was Jackson who 98 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: was Quota said you have to get low, real low. 99 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: That ain't easy. He played me tough, So there's that, 100 00:04:59,360 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: and then lost. 101 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 7: Haven't you heard that? 102 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: I heard that? You know what, though, Darren, I'm looking 103 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: at the cut of your jib right now. You need 104 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 1: you need a mock draft update. You know, it's never 105 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: too early for a draft up day. Here we go. 106 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 7: We almost got to February without going. 107 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: No, we got to get you a mock draft in January. 108 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: In fact, there are three out. Bucky Brooks one point 109 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: zero has a Cardinals taking James Pierce Junior, an edge 110 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: out of Tennessee sixty five two forty three speed rusher 111 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: off the edge, Daniel Jeremiah one point, oh, Jalen Walker, 112 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: who's been getting a lot of run an edge out 113 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: of Georgia, a little smaller, highly athletic six two two 114 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: forty five, and then mel kiper As the Cardinals going 115 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,679 Speaker 1: at number sixteen. Overall, Tyler Booker might be the best 116 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: guard in the draft out of Alabama. 117 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 6: I think I saw Jeremiah say he was one of 118 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 6: the cleanest first round possibilities. 119 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: Yes, like one of the safest picks in the draft. 120 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks wrote that Tyler Booker is a bully at 121 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage with the nastiness needed to set 122 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: their towing up front. Now that is a double ding 123 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: when it comes to Jonathan Gannon and maniastin board. I mean, 124 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: does that not sound like a Kramat vertical sort of 125 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:10,799 Speaker 1: offensive lineman for this team. 126 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 6: No, I think that that's exactly the kind of guy 127 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 6: that they're going to be looking for. And I will 128 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 6: be fascinated to see exactly how this draft plays out. 129 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 6: I mean, I think clearly they're going to go lineman 130 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 6: on that first well, not clearly, but I believe it 131 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 6: to be true that they're going to go lineman with 132 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 6: that first pick. Whether it's offensive or defensive line. I 133 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 6: guess you could throw edge in there as a possibility, 134 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 6: but we know that they want to build up those 135 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 6: lines and get tougher in those areas and maybe fill 136 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 6: some holes that they're potentially going to have, and we 137 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 6: got a long way to go. Paul, Yeah, I mean 138 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 6: we are free agency first. 139 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: But they do say that O line and D line 140 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: is pretty stacked this year. It's a pretty strong and 141 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: there are some more unknown edge guys Cardinals I'm sure 142 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: will be evaluating, like the two leading sack artists who 143 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: are both in these All Star Games out of Boston 144 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 1: College and Marshall a little known but really showed well 145 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: this week, so we'll see how that plays. There's also 146 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: the NFL talk dot com story Unsung Heroes of the 147 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four NFL Season one per team. Did you 148 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: see who was selected on behalf of the Cardinals their 149 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: unsung hero this past season? It's not you, Paul, Garrett Williams. 150 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: Star at it. Garrett Williams. Here's what I didn't realize 151 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: on Garrett Williams. He grated out as Pro Football focuses 152 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: number two corner in coverage behind only Pats or Tan 153 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: what really well? 154 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 6: Again, I think Garrett Williams took giant strides this year. 155 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 6: He plays mostly in the slot, which is good in 156 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 6: a lot of ways. That's another position where I'm fascinated 157 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,559 Speaker 6: to see exactly what direction they go. Do they try 158 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 6: and spend another high pick on a cornerback perhaps if 159 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 6: the right guy is there, or are they happy with 160 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 6: this group that they have right now, which is considerably young, 161 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 6: but they've added a lot of people in the last 162 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 6: couple of years. We haven't even talked about Elijah Jones, 163 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 6: who didn't even get on the field. So that's a 164 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 6: third round pick that you're going to be adding to 165 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 6: the mix. 166 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: A right time to talk about the owner of Michael 167 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: Bidwell elected to the Arizona Sports Hall of Fame, and 168 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: none other than Larry Fitzgerald was there to deliver the news, 169 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: and once again in entertaining fashion, it was unbeknownst to 170 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: Michael himself, and it went something like this. 171 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 8: It's impossible to surprise Michael Bidwell, but if we're going 172 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 8: to get him today, he thinks I'm here filming some 173 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 8: promo for the NFL, but that's not what I'm really 174 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 8: here for. And I can't wait to reveal it to 175 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 8: you in a little bit. 176 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 9: What's going on? 177 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 7: Look at this? 178 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 8: Give me once I got, I gotta do this one 179 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 8: more line, give me one second. I don't know on 180 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 8: behalf of the Arizona Sports Hall of Fame Trustees. Is 181 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 8: my great honor to inform you, Michael Bidwell, that you 182 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 8: have been unanimously voted into the Arizona Sports Hall of 183 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 8: Fame clash of twenty twenty four. And I'm so very 184 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 8: happy for you, boss man, and I had to come 185 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 8: down and kid Dad obviously, Jake Plumber, Adrian Wilson, Pat Tillman, myself. 186 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 8: You man, it's an honor to have you. Thank you, 187 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 8: Nobody nobody deserves it more for what you've done, not 188 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 8: only for others on the Cardinals, but the state of 189 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 8: Arizona in general. I mean, these kids walking around the 190 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 8: city wearing these jerseys, pulling for this team. 191 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: It wouldn't be possible without you. 192 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 8: And you know, I'm just so so thankful for you 193 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 8: and everything you've done. You deserve this moment, You deserve 194 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 8: this well. 195 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 10: Thank you. 196 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 11: Larry means so much having this news come from you, 197 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 11: and you've led the way in so many different ways. 198 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 11: You're a member of a number of halls of Fame 199 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 11: and soon to be the Pro Football Hall of Fame 200 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 11: here in a year or two. 201 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 8: But none of that would be possible without you. And 202 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 8: you know, to think what you've done to elevate this 203 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 8: organization in the city, it's it's unbelievable. And you know, 204 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 8: I know greater things to come, you know, with your leadership. 205 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 8: I appreciate it absolutely, Thank you. I love you. 206 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 11: I love you too. 207 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 2: Appreciate it. Wow. 208 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 11: Okay, so that's what. 209 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: This was about. Oh, you gotta love the Larry laugh 210 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 1: right there. It's good stuff and they generally surprised Michael Bidwell, 211 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: unbeknownst to him, really well done by the Cardinals TV 212 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 1: crew in the TV studio, Larry Fitzgerald himself. Fact, you 213 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: can see that the Cardinals have posted that great video 214 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: and once again you heard Larry mention some of the names. 215 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: So it'll be the sixth member of the Cardinals organization 216 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: to be elected to the Arizona Sports Hall of Fame, 217 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: as Michael joins his late father, Bill Bidwell, and then 218 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: Larry himself, Pat Tillman, Adrian Wilson, Jake Plummer's. 219 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 6: It's definitely a who's who of people that have been 220 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 6: important as Arizona Cardinals. 221 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 7: So congratulations to Michael. And we're gonna. 222 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 6: Get to see probably zach Ertz that night too because 223 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 6: his wife, Juliertz, who's from Arizona. 224 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 7: Yes, she is also in this class. 225 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: Yes, I mean you talk about heavy hitters, right, Mike 226 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: Bibby is in this class. Julia Ertz, Ricky Hunley, the 227 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: former NFL linebacker out of the U of A, Joe 228 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: Garajolia junior former d Max GM, Paul Konerko. 229 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 7: Chaparra Go Fires. 230 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I left that one for last I know you 231 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: right there, so he could flex that one on that. 232 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: But what was the other Chaparral news aar there? Okay, 233 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: another Darren so on the Darren Patty on the Darren 234 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: powerpole with two rs in an e. Where does Mugie rank, 235 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: you know? And where do you rank in there? 236 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 6: And you know it's well, as Danny tweeted out that night, 237 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 6: our friend Danny sirek, I am the least most important 238 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 6: Darren that had walked the halls of chaparale I. 239 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: See, hey, you can join the Cardinal season ticket waitlist. 240 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: Always good with Danny holding you accountable for a listen 241 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: to the twenty twenty five opponents, and to learn about 242 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:38,119 Speaker 1: season ticket member benefits, go to Azycardinals dot com slash waitlist. 243 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 1: All Right, speaking to heavy hitters, what does a Hall 244 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: of Fame quarterback think of Marvin Arrison Junior's rookie year? 245 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: Where and how can Kyler improve? Patrick Mahomes, how do 246 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 1: you beat the Chiefs? You know what? Let's ask Kurt 247 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: Warner himself. He joins us. Next. It is the Big 248 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are 249 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: santan Ford because it's a plea flicker. Warner gonna throw 250 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: deep nearside, going for fence. 251 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 4: He's in double coverage. 252 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 5: It doesn't matter. He caught it anyway, touchdown, Cardinals. 253 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 12: Kurt Warner could throw a twinkie into a toaster. 254 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: I mean this guy is on fire. 255 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 4: Warner with a ton of time throwing right side. 256 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 8: Fit's open, caught in the five heading for the. 257 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 4: Pylon, and he is gonna be ruled EO Cardinals. 258 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: Worry Fitzgerald. Warner takes back to throw faith left side. 259 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 4: Fitzgerald Big Island touchdown, his third of the day. 260 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 5: It's twenty to sex Arizona. 261 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 12: Wow, Kurt Warner isn't in the zone. 262 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: He is the zone. 263 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: That's it. 264 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 5: The Cordinals half shot the world. 265 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 10: It's right but true. The Cards have done. 266 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 5: They're going to Super Bowl forty three. 267 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 1: The QB, who was supposedly on the down side of 268 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: his career, showed the world how much upside there really 269 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: was in his game and his team. 270 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 7: We're nobody else believed in us. 271 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: We're nobody else believed in me. 272 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 2: You guys did, and we're going to the super Bowl. 273 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: That is from our award winning Cardinals Folktales series, Kurt 274 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: Warner renaissance man on Kurt's Cardinals' career. I'll have you know, 275 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: Darren Urban, that was the fifth most downloaded Cardinals podcast 276 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, even though the pod posted in 277 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. And it's always an honor to have 278 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 1: the Hall of Famer himself here on the Big Red 279 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: Rage presented by San tan Ford in Gilbert Kurt Warner. Welcome, Kurt, 280 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: and we're gonna I'm gonna get into my question because 281 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: once Darren gets rolling, there's no stopping him. Okay, you 282 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: just finished talking with Patrick Mahomes getting ready for your 283 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: Super Bowl broadcasts, et cetera. And I mean it's ridiculous, right, 284 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: somebody just nicknamed him the Human Dynasty. He's seventeen and 285 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 1: three in the playoffs, fifth super Bowl in seven years. 286 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: I saw where Saquon Barkley's said, Look, we wanted to 287 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: send a message a team can still run the ball 288 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: down someone's throat and get to a super Bowl. Okay, 289 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: can you win a Super Bowl that way? Can you 290 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: beat Patrick Mahomes that way? Because the Cardinals seem to 291 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 1: be tracking that way. And if you don't have Patrick Mahomes, 292 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: what do you do? Do you run the ball? And 293 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: will it work in Super Bowl fifty nine? 294 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 2: Well, I think the bottom line is I think you 295 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 2: can win a Super Bowl running the football the way 296 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 2: that Eagles have in most seasons. For sure, we'll get 297 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 2: a chance to see if they can do it this 298 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 2: season because you mentioned it is that on paper, I 299 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 2: look at the Eagles and I think they're the better roster. 300 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 2: I think they've got more of those big time players 301 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: that have proven themselves, you know, at this level. But 302 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 2: the Chiefs to have Patrick Mahomes and he is the 303 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 2: ultimate X actor is that he is so good in 304 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 2: the moment at making the right decision at keeping a 305 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 2: game close, and then obviously in the moment, if you 306 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 2: give him a chance to be able to put the 307 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 2: dagger in and to win the game. And so I 308 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 2: have to believe the Eagles are going to have success. 309 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 2: They have success against them a couple of years ago, 310 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 2: even without Saquon Barkley, So I believe they're going to 311 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 2: have success. I believe it's going to be a good 312 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 2: football game. But I think the biggest question is can 313 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 2: you finish the game? And a lot of times when 314 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 2: we think about running the football, that's what we think about. 315 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 2: We think about if we have a great running team. 316 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 2: The greatest blessing of that is when we get into 317 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 2: a close game late where we can just run out 318 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 2: the clock, or we can use the clock and be 319 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 2: more ball controlled and keep the ball away from the 320 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 2: opponent and away from Patrick Mahomes so he can't make 321 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 2: that final drive to beat us. And so that to 322 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 2: me is going to probably be the most telling sign 323 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 2: is when this game comes down late and it's close, 324 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 2: and being a team that's built on running the football, 325 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 2: can that be the thing that finishes this game for 326 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 2: the Eagles, or does once again come down to Patrick 327 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 2: Mahomes and the ball in his hands, and it fall 328 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 2: to their defense. 329 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 6: Having to do it, you know, Kurt, you know talking 330 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 6: about what Paul kind of touched on about the Cardinals 331 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 6: wanting to run the ball and be that kind of team. 332 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 6: I was looking at a stat the other day that 333 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 6: I think the Cardinals were I think had the fewest 334 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 6: amount of offensive possessions in the league all year, But 335 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 6: as correspondingly, they also had like they had the fewest 336 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 6: amount of defensive times on the field too, which makes sense. 337 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 6: If you're running the ball, there's gonna be fewer possessions 338 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 6: in that game. 339 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 7: I'm curious. 340 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 6: We see Saquon, we see Derek Henry, we see some 341 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 6: of these great run teams. Has there been a shift 342 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 6: you watch so much tape, you watch so much defense. 343 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 6: Has have defenses caught up a little bit to being 344 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 6: able to deal with the passing games in the NFL 345 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 6: these days? Or is this a blip because there's a 346 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 6: couple of great running backs right now and the really 347 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 6: good teams have them and and this is still probably 348 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 6: first the passing league. 349 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think what I've realized over the years, 350 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 2: and even when we say it was a passing league. 351 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,479 Speaker 2: Almost every time you get into the playoffs and you 352 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 2: look at the playoff teams, most playoff teams can run 353 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 2: the football and have a solid run game, and it's 354 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 2: a big reason why they're there because at the end 355 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 2: of the day, you know, we can talk about passing 356 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 2: or running, but I think at the end of the day, 357 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:30,479 Speaker 2: what we realize in football is that the trenches is 358 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 2: the most defining factor in success and failure. Winning the 359 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 2: offensive line, winning the defensive line. And so yes, it 360 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 2: could calculate into throwing the football or running the football, 361 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 2: but I think that's one of the things that when 362 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,479 Speaker 2: you can run the football, that's one thing you have 363 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 2: to have. That's one thing that you know you have 364 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 2: is an offensive line that can dictate the action of 365 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 2: a game. And so that will never change in my opinion. 366 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 2: Right there's ways to get around it. There's way to 367 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 2: be successful, you know, when you don't have a dominant 368 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 2: offensive line. But if you have a dominant offensive line, 369 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 2: if you have a dominant defensive line, if you can 370 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 2: run the ball and stop the run when you want to, 371 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 2: that will always go a long way in determining winning teams. 372 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 2: Playoff teams and I think championship teams and so yeah, 373 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 2: I believe that running the football is and always will 374 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 2: be a part of the game. You know, it's just 375 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 2: the rules have you know, lent themselves to doing some 376 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 2: different things in the passing game. And the amazing thing 377 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 2: is that, you know, even when we throw the ball 378 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 2: more we throw the ball first. The number of throws 379 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 2: that are at the line of scrimmage in this day 380 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 2: and age, to me, is simply just an extension of 381 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 2: the run game. That's saying we want to run the football. 382 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 2: We don't want to put the ball in harms way. 383 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 2: We're not going to throw the ball, you know, thirty 384 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 2: yards down the field every time. We may not have 385 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 2: a dominant offensive line, so this is our way to 386 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 2: supplement running the football and taking some of the risk 387 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 2: out of it. So I think it's just kind of 388 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 2: adjusted maybe how we look at the run game with 389 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 2: this quick wide receiver, quick screens, bubble screens to your 390 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 2: back type offenses that we see. But running the football 391 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 2: and winning the offensive line, to me, will always be 392 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 2: a factor in the best teams in the league. 393 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer Kurt Warner on the Big Red Rage 394 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: Present of my Santan Ford and Gilbert fifteen years ago. 395 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: This week you announced your retirement from the Cardinals. Of course, 396 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: you had Larry Fitzgerald. And for everything the Cardinals are 397 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: doing to cram at vertical with the run game, they 398 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: added Marvin Harrison Junior last year number four overall? How 399 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: much upside is left after his rookie campaign, Kurt, what 400 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: did you see? Where do you think his future is 401 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: tracking Marvin Harrison Junior. 402 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 2: Well, I think the beginning of the year, I think 403 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 2: it was a transition for him to understand kind of 404 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 2: the physicality of the NFL and maybe just the speed 405 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 2: and talent at the NFL level that I really felt 406 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 2: like in college when I watched him, he would win 407 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 2: a lot based on just physical ability. You know, people 408 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 2: that were scared of him so they played way off 409 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 2: or you know, his physical ability where he could just 410 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 2: run by guys and he didn't have to win a 411 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 2: lot with route running, so to speak. And so I 412 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 2: think you saw that early in the year. But then 413 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 2: I think you saw him grow in those areas as 414 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 2: the season went along, where he got more physical, he 415 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 2: could create separation against press coverage, you know, down the 416 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 2: stretch of the year, that is, route running became a 417 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 2: little bit better, and he became a better understanding, had 418 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 2: a better understanding of how he needed to run routes 419 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 2: to get open. He was he was a threat in 420 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 2: the red zone, which is always a good thing, you know, 421 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 2: in those early stages. So, I mean, I think there's 422 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 2: still a long way to go for Marvin Harrison in 423 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 2: terms of, you know, coupling what his physical skill is 424 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 2: with the understanding of how to play the NFL games. 425 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 2: So I expect him to get incrementally better for the 426 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 2: next few years as he continues to grow into those things. 427 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 2: But you know, to me, the biggest thing you always 428 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 2: want to see with young guys is growth, and to me, 429 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 2: I saw that with Marvin Harrison Junior threw out the year. 430 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 2: Is that I saw the growth from week one to 431 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,239 Speaker 2: where he was at the end of the season. You 432 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 2: saw him improved in some of those areas that he 433 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 2: struggled early on. So that has to excite anybody in 434 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 2: the organization or Cardinals stands that, hey, he's just learning it. 435 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 2: And you know, we often say the biggest drives for 436 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 2: any players are made between their first and second year. 437 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 2: So they come in they got to learn it. They 438 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 2: got to figure it out, and they got to see 439 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 2: what it's all about, and they got to prove to 440 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 2: themselves that they can play and what they're capable of doing. 441 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 2: And so as they get into that first offseason into 442 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 2: that second year, now they get a chance to hit 443 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 2: the ground run. And so I'm excited to see where 444 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 2: he is when he comes back in the second year. 445 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 6: I know you're not necessarily watching the Cardinals play by 446 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 6: play or breaking down every single game they have, but 447 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 6: from a thirty fouved everyone, Okay, well, then I apologize, Kurt. 448 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 6: I should have known better when you look at kind 449 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 6: of a thirty thousand foot view of this team and 450 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 6: where it is right now and going into the third 451 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 6: year of a GM and a coach trying to rebuild 452 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 6: from the ground up, kind of where do you see 453 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 6: the Cardinals right now? 454 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think they were a good football team. 455 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 2: I think the one thing that I've been impressed with 456 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 2: since coach Cannad has got there is their effort and 457 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 2: their competitiveness every single week that they're a team that 458 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 2: you have to contend with. You know, while they figure 459 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 2: out those pieces that they're missing, maybe some dominant players 460 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 2: on their defensive line and guys that can really get 461 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 2: after the quarterback. I think it's going to be key there, 462 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 2: you know, continually to develop their passing. You know, Trade 463 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 2: mcgrid obviously came into his own this year and really, 464 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 2: you know, you could argue was the best tight end 465 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 2: of the league this year. Obviously, James Connor is one 466 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 2: of those star warks that you could count on it 467 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 2: and it really kind of went through him. Uh, you 468 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 2: know Marvin Harrison who we just talked about, you know, 469 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 2: if he elevates his game. But adding a couple other 470 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 2: pieces I think they're on the offensive side is going 471 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 2: to to help as well. But you know, so so 472 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 2: I think their their pass game just has to develop 473 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 2: to be able to match their run game. And and 474 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 2: that's kind of you know, what I saw with this 475 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 2: team is that when they were able to run the 476 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 2: football and the and the pass game could truly be 477 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 2: a compliment. They were a good football team. When they 478 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 2: struggled to run the football and the pass game had 479 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 2: to become the primary is where they struggled more. And 480 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 2: so that's to me where they have to develop, you know, 481 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 2: what that is and what their identity is and and 482 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 2: and where Kyler can can thrive in getting the ball 483 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 2: down the field a little bit more than than they 484 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 2: were you know, then they were capable or that they 485 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 2: did this past year. And so that to me is 486 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 2: just from a scheme standpoint, where I see that, you know, 487 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 2: them needing to make strive to compete against the best 488 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 2: teams in the league is you have to be able 489 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 2: to win away from your strengths at times, and you know, 490 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 2: and I felt they struggled to do that consistently last year. 491 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 2: You know, we know the talent level that Kyler has, 492 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 2: and we've seen the moments, the incredible moments that he's had, 493 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 2: and so they have to figure out how to get 494 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 2: that consistently into the passame and making sure that you 495 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 2: know what they're doing and what they're asking of him 496 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 2: meshes with all the things that he does really really well. 497 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: And as they continue to unlock Kyler Murray, give us 498 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: one area where Kyler can improve. We could do a 499 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: whole interview just on Kyler, but maybe give us one 500 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: area he should focus on going into year seven of 501 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: his career. 502 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, for me, I think it's just kind 503 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 2: of the patience of getting from receiver number one to 504 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 2: receiver number two. Is that I think how there's really 505 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 2: good when number one is open and you know he 506 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 2: knows where he wants to go with it, and he 507 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 2: can put that back to the ground and throw it. 508 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 2: He's really good. He's a gifted thrower. He can make special, 509 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 2: special throws. And then another thing I think he does 510 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 2: really well is he's good at going from one and 511 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 2: not really knowing where to go from there, but getting 512 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 2: it to his checkdowns. He's really good at knowing where 513 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 2: his checkdowns are, and so he creates a lot of 514 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 2: positive plays, plays that I think early on he tried 515 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 2: to make all the time with his legs. Now he 516 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 2: doesn't have to. The game's become easier because it's like, Okay, 517 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 2: I don't see it down the field, let me get 518 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 2: it to the checkdown, let me get it to James, 519 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 2: and we'll pick up four, five, six yards and so 520 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 2: we're able to make positive plays. But I still believe 521 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 2: that the best offenses in the league are those teams 522 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 2: that can consistently make those kind of mid range chunk 523 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 2: throws to make the game easier. So you don't have 524 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 2: to make ten and twelve play drives to be successful. 525 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 2: So his ability to kind of have the patience and 526 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 2: timing to get from one to two and make more 527 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 2: of those number two tight throws down the field is 528 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 2: I believe they have to improve where Kyler has to 529 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 2: improve because he does a number of things right with 530 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 2: number one and getting to his checkdowns, but that mid 531 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 2: range is just having the patients to kind of stick 532 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 2: in there, see it and then deliver more of those 533 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 2: chunk throws. I think is what this You know this 534 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 2: offense need. 535 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: Twenty five years ago today, Kurt Warner won a Super 536 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: Bowl with the Rams when they beat the Titans. How 537 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 1: about that, Darren. He was up pretty good that game, 538 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: and I saw where Cam Newton, as we wrap this up, 539 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: was asked on first take if he could give back 540 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: his MVP for a Super Bowl championship, and he said no. 541 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: The good news is Kirk doesn't have to worry about 542 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: that because he has both them. And we thank you 543 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 1: Kurt for your time, always your pleasure. 544 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 2: Thanks you got it, guys, Always great to talk to you. 545 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: All Right, we continue with the Big Red Rage. We'll 546 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: talk about the Pro Bowl, we'll talk about the Super 547 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: Bowl when we come back. It's the Big Red Rage 548 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 1: Presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert we are santan Ford. 549 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 4: Jet sweet here side McBride sniff arming touchdown Fray McBride 550 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 4: on the handoff. 551 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 7: McBride is so good running the football. 552 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 4: Cardinals rush by and Travil Smith steps up. Sack by 553 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 4: Budha Baker hot By. McBride wrapped up broke and tackled 554 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 4: though and then he hurdles an defender at the forty. 555 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 4: That was gronk esque. You can't control Trey McBride. Blitz 556 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 4: coming Rodgers has no chance. Sack by Fooda Baker. 557 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: It's Tray McBride on a quick, tight end screen and 558 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 1: into the end zone. Trey McBride who finds paydirt. 559 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 7: Bludda Baker came off the edge clean. 560 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 4: And Aaron Rodgers got his backwax between four jets. The 561 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 4: ball is caught by Trey McBride. 562 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 1: Trey McBride, you are a bad, bad man. 563 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 7: Are you kidding me? 564 00:27:55,240 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 1: When your best players are also your best exams to 565 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: other players of how to compete, how to practice, how 566 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: to study, how to prep. I mean, how do you 567 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: put a price on that goes way beyond just the stats. 568 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 1: With Trey McBride and Buddha Baker. 569 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 7: Well, Trey McBride's probably gonna try this offseason. 570 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 1: That's a good point. But first he's enjoining his offseason 571 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: of course, like earlier today at Disney World, joining other 572 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl players as they went around. I don't know 573 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: is he wearing any of the Mickey ears, the Mickey 574 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: Mouse ears. 575 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 7: I not that I saw, all right, but he is 576 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 7: a big kid. 577 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: If there was one guy who's gonna wear the Mickey 578 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: Mouse ears, I could see Trey McBride. 579 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 7: I could see that. 580 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: It is a big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford 581 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: and Gilbert Darren urban in for Ron Wolfley, and guess what, 582 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: let's just get right into this and look, we can 583 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: talk all we want about the stats and one hundred 584 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: eleven catches for Trey McBride, one hundred and sixty four 585 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: tackles for Buddha Baker, number two in the NFL, But 586 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: once again, when other players, when their teammates say it, 587 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: it just means that much more. Let's flash back to 588 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: the Big Red Rage. Darren, give me your thoughts and 589 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: what Darius Robinson had to say about Buddha Baker's setting 590 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: the standard, just the. 591 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 10: Motor he plays that then the instinct to be where 592 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 10: the ball is at and then to actually get people 593 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 10: on the ground. You know, I literally just try to 594 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 10: follow him everything he does because he is the standard 595 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 10: of an elite football player, standard of our organization. So 596 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 10: if that's like what I want to envision myself, and 597 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,719 Speaker 10: hopefully someone talks like me like one day, like I 598 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 10: have to find a way to be like Buddha. 599 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: And that's in addition to what Darius Robinson said when 600 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: he came back off the injured list, where just watching 601 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: from the sideline this year during his rookie year, that 602 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: Buddha was probably the best player he's ever seen. In 603 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: the words of Darius Robinson. 604 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 6: I'm not gonna lie like those kind of comments like 605 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 6: it kind of stunned me a little bit, you know, 606 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 6: because it's not like they're in the same room. Obviously 607 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 6: they're both on the same defense. But Darius Robinson, unless 608 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 6: he's watching on TV, if the game's going on, he 609 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 6: ain't seeing what Budda's doing back there. But I will 610 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 6: say that he's picked a good role model clearly, Dang, 611 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 6: And we've talked about this stuff before other platforms, Paul, 612 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 6: like I am, I just think it made so much 613 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 6: sense to make sure Buddha Baker continued his career here 614 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 6: with this contract extension. It got weird there for a 615 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 6: little bit when he wanted the extension with another change, 616 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 6: and to Buddha's to defend Buddha a little bit, like 617 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 6: when all that happened there was he had another coaching change, 618 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 6: and he had another defensive coordinator. I can understand where 619 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 6: a guy who's been in the league for a while 620 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 6: would get feeling some type of way about it. 621 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: And I mean, he's had four different head coaches. 622 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 8: You know. 623 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 6: And again he wanted the contract extension, but just to 624 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 6: you know, that was the one thing he could control, 625 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 6: would be maybe getting a thing. But I think that 626 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 6: he is very much in lockstep with what Nick Rollis 627 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 6: wants to do, with what Jonathan Ganna wants to do 628 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 6: in terms of not only defense but culture, and it 629 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 6: just it makes all the sense in the world to 630 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 6: have him back. So I love where he is in 631 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 6: his career, and I love again the stuff that rubs 632 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 6: off on a player like Darius Robinson. 633 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: When Rabbit right rookie safety says I purposely sit next 634 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: to Buddha Baker all year long, just to hear him 635 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: and Jalen Thompson talk football, so I can absorb that 636 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: the osmosis when a starling Thomas attaches himself to Buddha's 637 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: hip the entire offseason they trained together. 638 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 6: Just don't call Buddha vintage. At one point I said 639 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 6: to him, this year you made that mistake. Has there 640 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 6: been a is this kind of like I think it 641 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 6: was a certain game I brought up. I said, was 642 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 6: that a vintage Buddha Baker performance or has this been 643 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 6: a vintage Buddha Baker year? And he was He smiled, 644 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 6: but he's like, yeah, don't let's not go vintage. That 645 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 6: makes me sound old. I mean he's not even thirty yet. 646 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: No, no, and he just had a career year once again. 647 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 7: And you always vintage. 648 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: Props to Nick Rowlis and Jonathan Gannon for unlocking and 649 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: maximizing Buddha Bakery. Same could be said for Trey McBride. 650 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: One hundred eleven catches that as a team record for 651 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: team that includes Jackie Smith among its alums. And here 652 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: he is about being named to us first Pro Bowl. 653 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 9: Something you dream about as a little kid. You know, 654 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 9: obviously you want to make it to the pros and 655 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 9: then you want to be the best. This is just 656 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 9: one step, you know, into that right direction. This is 657 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 9: a huge honor for me. Proud just to bring this 658 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 9: back home where I'm from. Just a huge honor for 659 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 9: not only me, my community, my family, and obviously this 660 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,239 Speaker 9: organization you know, hasn't been done by a tight end 661 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 9: in a very long time. So this is just a 662 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 9: huge honor for not only me, but this organization and everybody. 663 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: And I'll be honest, if we're in the trust tree, 664 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,719 Speaker 1: you know, midway through his rookie year, you're wondering, okay, 665 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: wait a minute, first tight end taken in that draft 666 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: there is you know, high second round pick, mid second 667 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: round pick, and then it took a while, It took 668 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: the aforementioned zach Ertz and clearing the way for Trey 669 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: McBride to really blossom and learn on the job. And 670 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: the more opportunities he's had just seemingly the better he's been. 671 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: What we talk so much about Marvin Harrison Junior's upside, 672 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: how much upside do you think Trey McBride still has. 673 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 6: Well, he's pretty high up there right now in my opinion, 674 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 6: with what he does and how he does it. You know, 675 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 6: it's funny Trey comes across as very he's a humble 676 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 6: He's humble. 677 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: He is, but but on game day. 678 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 6: He and I don't think it's just game day. He 679 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 6: burns to be really freaking good. And I think he 680 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 6: believes he's good. When I say he's humble, I think 681 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 6: it's one of those ones where he is humble, like 682 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 6: when he takes it down a notch and he's talking 683 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 6: to people. But I think if you got Trey McBride 684 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 6: on the on the true serum, you you you'd hear 685 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 6: a guy that definitely believes that he absolutely can be 686 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 6: the best in the game. 687 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: And let's just say there have been times in the 688 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: moment in the game where he's told defenders you can't 689 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: cover me, and he's had that same exchange even with 690 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: Buddha Baker in practice. Both him and Buddha have talked 691 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: about how they go back and forth. In fact, here's 692 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: Buddha on Trey McBride making his first Pro Bowl. 693 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 13: He's always been that guy to to catch the brock 694 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 13: and to block and do everything that is necessary for 695 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 13: a tight end to be great in this league. And 696 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 13: I knew he was going to be great his rookie 697 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 13: year and now that he's here, made his first Pro 698 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,399 Speaker 13: Bowl of you know, he was in a hot til 699 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 13: when I seen him and just had to shake his 700 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 13: hand and say congratulations. He's earned it, and I think 701 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 13: he's one of the best tight ends in this league, 702 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 13: and Monty's got to make him the highest paid. 703 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: There he goes his representation Buddha Baker as Trey McBride. 704 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,479 Speaker 7: He's not zip but one when they go to talk. 705 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, so which in okay, he's now eligible right for 706 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: a contract extension any day. Now, I'm sure any of it, 707 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,359 Speaker 1: just don't maybe not any Well, this offseat, we'll see, 708 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens exactly. We'll say this because you 709 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 1: know what, we'll keep Trey mcplay humble, get into the 710 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: end zone. That's obviously a box that he wants to check. 711 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,760 Speaker 1: You know, it's remarkable when you look at, for example, 712 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: a Ravens team, Mark Andrews and Isaiah likely combined for 713 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: seventeen touchdown catches this year. So, okay, you know what 714 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,760 Speaker 1: more is there in regards to Trey mcbriden the red zone, 715 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 1: because we saw them and it was remarkable to see 716 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: the efficiency. Right, he'd have ten catches on ten targets. 717 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 6: I think when you go to the touchdown, let's die. 718 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,800 Speaker 6: I mean, this is a bigger picture thing. Kyler Murray 719 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 6: only had twenty one touchdown passes and that came with 720 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 6: four in the last game. So I think this team 721 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 6: needs to find a way to get touchdown passes more often, 722 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 6: not just to Trey McBride, but more often period. 723 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:23,399 Speaker 2: Yeah. 724 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 1: Well, we said in the off season, right, you're always 725 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: looking to get better. Finish finish drives, finish games, finish seasons. 726 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,720 Speaker 1: Speaking of, you can learn more about Arizona Cardinals season tickets, 727 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: premium seating groups, and luxury field seating experiences today. For 728 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: all your Cardinals ticket info, go to Azycardinals dot com 729 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: slash tickets, Azycardinals dot com slash tickets. 730 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 7: We'll finish the showdown, right, is that what we could do? 731 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,280 Speaker 1: Sure, let's do that. In fact, you know what, speaking 732 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: to the State Farm Stadium, it's a rematch of Super 733 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: Bowl fifty seven, and we'll talk about Eagles and Chiefs 734 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: next on the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford 735 00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: in Gilbert. 736 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 12: Zero of the Clark, the Player with Life Skyward and 737 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 12: the Eagles not just beat but annihilate the Washington Commanders 738 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 12: fifty five to twenty three. 739 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 5: What a day? 740 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 12: Want to win? 741 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: One a crown? What a team won a season? But 742 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: it's not over yet. 743 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 5: One more snap puts the Lamar Hunt Trophy right back 744 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 5: into the Kansas City Trophy case. 745 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 8: Going to a knee. 746 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,240 Speaker 1: You can't doubt the Chiefs. 747 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,240 Speaker 5: You can dislike the Chiefs, you can disrespect the Chiefs. 748 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 7: You're gonna have to deal with the. 749 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 5: Chiefs being the first team in National Football League history 750 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 5: to win back to back Super Bowls and go to 751 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 5: the Super Bowl for a chance for a three peat. 752 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 1: Facts, deal with a Darren Urban. Mitch Holt is breaking 753 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: it down for you. Merril Reese with the Eagles the 754 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: final calls, if. 755 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 6: That's what he's saying, Now, what happens if they win 756 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 6: the Super Bowl? What's he gonna say after that? 757 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: That's true, where'd he leave himself? Where's he going with 758 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: the next call? If they do indeed win? And you 759 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: know what, for everyone who's been trying to deal with 760 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 1: Chiefs fatigue, well, guess what you're watching because they just 761 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:17,240 Speaker 1: set a record TV rating, best AFC Championship game audience 762 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: ever with over fifty seven million viewers for a Kansas 763 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: City team that has now won an NFL record seventeen 764 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 1: straight one possession games. They have won nine straight playoff games. 765 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: That's crazy, I mean. And we had a chance to 766 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 1: talk with Kurt Warner earlier in the show just about 767 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: the greatness that is Patrick Mahomes. And my contention all 768 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 1: week long has been, Okay, what do you do to 769 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: beat the best player on the planet? Can you form 770 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 1: the best team on the planet? And Kurt talked about that, 771 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 1: trying to build the offensive line if you're Philadelphia, and 772 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,439 Speaker 1: they have done Man, they have done that, and they've 773 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: also had the NFL's leading rusher. In fact, there's another 774 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 1: stat The last time a team won a Super Bowl 775 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 1: with a rushing champion was the Broncos with Terrell Davis 776 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety seven. 777 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 7: Much different game, Paul, Yes, it. 778 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 1: Is, thank you. So how competitive do you think this 779 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: game will be? 780 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 7: Well, I mean, I fully expect it to be competitive 781 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 7: on a couple different levels. 782 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 6: I know the teams are a lot different than they 783 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 6: were a couple of years ago, but they played an 784 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 6: unbelievable Super Bowl a couple of years ago at State 785 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,760 Speaker 6: Farm Stadium. I expected to be close because the Chiefs. 786 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 6: Every game the Chiefs play is close, so why would 787 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 6: this be any different? 788 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: Including Super Bowl fifty seven they rallied from down ten 789 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 1: at halftime and then they won on the airskin Butker 790 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 1: field goal five. 791 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 6: I mean, heck, we we can just stick with this 792 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 6: year and they play a tight game every week. Yeah, 793 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 6: they won all of them, but they were all like 794 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 6: razor thin margin. So I expect this to be a 795 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 6: really good game. I am one of the very few 796 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 6: people apparently out there that doesn't have Chiefs fatigue and 797 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 6: in fact not a big Eagles guy, so I will 798 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 6: totally be hoping that the Chiefs win a third straight 799 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 6: Super Bowl. So but I expect it to be good. 800 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 6: I understand the people that are kind of bummed out 801 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,959 Speaker 6: that either the Lions or the Bills or both didn't 802 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 6: get here, because those were some feel good stories in 803 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,280 Speaker 6: a lot of ways, But uh, you know, quite frankly, 804 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 6: unless the Cardinals are gonna get there, which would drastically 805 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 6: change how I would view the prism of the Super Bowl. 806 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 6: It's it's a super Bowl. You're gonna watch it, and 807 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 6: no matter who's. 808 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 1: In it, and you know what's That's why I find myself. 809 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch the game, absolutely obviously, but I'm probably 810 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 1: not going to consume as much of the hooplah in 811 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 1: New Orleans all next week going up to the game, 812 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: just because sort of you've been there, you've done that. 813 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,320 Speaker 1: You know the players, you know the coaches, you know 814 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 1: the backstories. 815 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 7: Are you a hoopla guy? 816 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: Anyways, I try and participate theren. 817 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,359 Speaker 7: I'm really honest, like I's trying to do a good. 818 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 1: Job faking it if nothing else. 819 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 7: Well, okay, I've heard that about you. 820 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: Oh boy, Jalen Hurts, let me ask you this, Okay. 821 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 1: He ran for three touchdowns. He also completed twenty to 822 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 1: twenty eight passes for two forty six and another touchdown. 823 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 1: After the game, he said, quote, well, yeah, Nick, let 824 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: me out of my straight jacket a little bit today. 825 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: What'd you make of that drama? And and do you 826 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 1: think they open up Jalen Hurts a little bit more? 827 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 1: Or when you have Saquon Barkley in the best offensive 828 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,440 Speaker 1: line in the game. No, no, no, no, no, just be 829 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:15,320 Speaker 1: captain checkdown. 830 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 6: Honestly, you know what, the first thing I thought of 831 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 6: Paul when I heard that whole thing, and it kind 832 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 6: of made me smile when Nick's here and it says, oh, 833 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 6: he was just kind of joking around. He didn't, you know, 834 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 6: it wasn't anything. Yeah, it was, of course it was. 835 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 6: You don't say it if it didn't. The first thing 836 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 6: I think of is, to a certain extent, I hear 837 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 6: Kyler Murray in the back of my head because the 838 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 6: Cardinals are a very good running team, and when they've 839 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 6: had a good couple good games this year where they 840 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 6: won and they passed the ball, and you kind of 841 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 6: hear Kyler talking about, you know, it's good to pass 842 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 6: the ball and it's good to throw it around. 843 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 7: Like quarterbacks want to throw the ball. The Eagles want 844 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 7: to throw the ball. Jalen Hurst wants to throw the ball. 845 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 7: Aj Brown wants to catch the ball. DeVonta Smith wants 846 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 7: to catch the ball. Yeah, it's great. 847 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,720 Speaker 6: And don't get me wrong, I'm sure they love Saquon 848 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 6: bark running for eight thousand yards, but they still want 849 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 6: to be able to do what they do. 850 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 7: Now. 851 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 6: Do I think they need to stick to what they've 852 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 6: been doing to win the Super Bowl? I do, but 853 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 6: I'll be curious. You know, they ran up the score 854 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 6: on the Commanders. Chiefs defense is something different than the 855 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 6: commander's defense. I'm telling you that right now. So are 856 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 6: they going to be able to have that kind of success? 857 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 6: I will be curious. 858 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: I mean, for example, you're watching Buffalo and Kansas City 859 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 1: in that AFC Championship game, and I know I have 860 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 1: company in this regard. The game is hanging in the balance, 861 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 1: and where's James Cook? Yeah, where is James Cook? In 862 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,359 Speaker 1: that game? He didn't have nearly enough touches and when 863 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: he did touch the ball, he was really dynamic. And 864 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 1: we all know Saquon Barkley is every bit the running 865 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 1: back of James Cook. So with that in mind, I 866 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,880 Speaker 1: do wonder, you know, if Phildelphia comes in and you 867 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 1: know what, Jyalen, that's great, But here's the straight jacket again, 868 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 1: and we're just gonna plow straight ahead. 869 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,240 Speaker 6: I would think that that's what you would be going 870 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 6: into it thinking. I mean, why wouldn't you. I mean, 871 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 6: Saquon Barkley legitimately has an argument to be in the 872 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,439 Speaker 6: MVP conversation. I don't think he was because I'm I'm 873 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 6: a if you got a really great quarterback, that's gonna 874 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 6: trump a running back to me. 875 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 1: But and by the way. Just look at Lamar Jackson's 876 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 1: rushing numbers this year. He almost ran for a thousand yards. So, 877 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,879 Speaker 1: but what with the NFL can't afford is to have 878 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 1: a close win by Kansas City and have it be 879 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 1: controversial for any sort of officiating. 880 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 6: I've got I've grown tired of that one too. I 881 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 6: I look, I spent I spent a large amount of 882 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:42,320 Speaker 6: parenting my youngest son in different sports, but but basketball especially, Like, dude, 883 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,360 Speaker 6: every time your team loses, it's not the ref's fault. 884 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,360 Speaker 6: And again, I get, I get it where there's a 885 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 6: couple of things, but I'm like, come on, like, what 886 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:52,240 Speaker 6: are we doing here? 887 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 1: Well, to that end, former Chiefs All Pro tackle Mitchell Schwartz, 888 00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 1: who who won the twenty nineteen Super Bowl with Kansas, 889 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,840 Speaker 1: he tweeted out, maybe the Chiefs are better coached, and 890 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 1: maybe they don't hit quarterbacks late or hit him in 891 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 1: the head or the neck. Back in my day, way 892 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,799 Speaker 1: back in twenty nineteen, teams who got less penalties called 893 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:15,239 Speaker 1: were considered better coached. Insane, And you can't argue with 894 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 1: Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes record their fifth Super Bowl 895 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 1: in seven years when the games are hanging into the 896 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 1: balance and the biggest moments, they're at their best or 897 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 1: at least better than you. 898 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 6: And some of this is just the name, the circumstances, 899 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,400 Speaker 6: The details changed, but everything stays the same. I guarantee 900 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 6: you if we got off this radio show, I could 901 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 6: go on the internet and quickly find five examples of 902 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,840 Speaker 6: somebody being quoted as saying, boy, you just breathe on 903 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,400 Speaker 6: Tom Brady and it's a penalty? 904 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,280 Speaker 7: What is this? They get all the calls. 905 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 1: By the way, the last time Kansas City lost a 906 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 1: playoff game, it was to maybe the only other quarterback 907 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,759 Speaker 1: who's better than Patrick Mahomes in the clutch. Dare I 908 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,800 Speaker 1: say it? Joe Burrow, Joe cool, Joe. 909 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 7: Burrow in the moment a lifetime ago. 910 00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,719 Speaker 1: Yes, it's a seem like that. What other beyond the 911 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 1: two quarterbacks and beyond Saquon Barkley? I mean, how do 912 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 1: you weigh Chris Jones the key to the game, and 913 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 1: then Kansas City defense? How about you know, Jalen Carter 914 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,240 Speaker 1: and that Eagles defense, which is talented at all three levels. 915 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 6: Obviously, I'll be fascinated to see the Chiefs have not 916 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 6: looked great offensively consistently all season, They've done just enough. 917 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 6: They got thirty two points last week, so I'm curious 918 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,280 Speaker 6: to see. Is this kind of a new Chiefs offense 919 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 6: for the playoffs where they put enough in their back 920 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 6: pocket that they can spring it out there. I think 921 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 6: you can score some points on the Eagles. The question 922 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 6: is can the Eagles score the points? And they've proven 923 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 6: they have all season to make this a really good game. 924 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 6: And I do think it's going to be a good 925 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 6: game one way or the other, and it'll. 926 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 1: Probably be record TV ratings. We'll see as history hangs 927 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 1: in the balance. Can an NFL team three peat? Special? 928 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,440 Speaker 1: Thanks again Kurt Warner, Hall of Famer, joining us talking 929 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 1: about the Super Bowl and the Cardinals Executive producer Jim 930 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 1: al Mahundro, Associate producer Cody Fincher, Tech Nicol director Ali 931 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,759 Speaker 1: Narini or Darren Urban and Paul calvec Wolf get well. 932 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,880 Speaker 7: Hopefully hopefully comes back. We don't know. 933 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,879 Speaker 1: We'll see off season. You never know. I mean, maybe 934 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 1: he's making some sort of contract statement right now heading 935 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 1: into the off season. 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