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Speaker 1: Hi everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford, joined alongside my partner in crime,

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Speaker 1: Wes Hodkowits were coming to you here from our studios

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Speaker 1: at lambeau Field and West I know you were hoping

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Speaker 1: the same thing I was, that we would be in

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Speaker 1: here on a Monday after a road trip with a

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Speaker 1: different narrative to talk about. But the narrative of the

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Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers season away from lambeau Field has not changed.

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Speaker 1: Sunday at Soldier Field seventeen, the Bears win. The Bears

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Speaker 1: clinched the NFC North and as has been the case

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Speaker 1: for the bulk of this season when the Packers are

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Speaker 1: on the road, it was a game that was there

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Speaker 1: for the taking, and the Packers unfortunately didn't take. Yeah. No,

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Speaker 1: I think that's a really good way to sum it up.

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Speaker 1: I think it was everything we thought it was going

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Speaker 1: to be as far as this game. I remember there

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Speaker 1: was actually one exact point where I was recalling this

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Speaker 1: right before the Packers scored They're only touchdown of the

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Speaker 1: day with the Jamal Williams run. About two minutes before that,

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Speaker 1: right after the Davante Adams twenty three yard catch on

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Speaker 1: second and four. I believe it was. I was thinking

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Speaker 1: to myself, I'm like, this is exactly the way I

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Speaker 1: thought this game was gonna play out. I didn't think

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Speaker 1: either team was going to get blown out. I thought

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Speaker 1: it was gonna be down to the wire. I thought

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Speaker 1: it was gonna be the typical December NFC North chasing,

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Speaker 1: you know, matchup that we've grown accustomed to. And for

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Speaker 1: the Packers, as great as that drive was, afterwards, they

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Speaker 1: just didn't respond with it. The defense gave up points,

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Speaker 1: the offense had two straight three and outs, and in

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Speaker 1: Davante Adams a credit to him his hundred catch on

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Speaker 1: the season, another hundred yard performance. Afterwards, talking to reporters

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Speaker 1: in the locker room, said, it's just been that third

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Speaker 1: quarter all season. It seems like, with a few exceptions

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Speaker 1: where the Packers just went into a stall mode um,

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Speaker 1: they just weren't able to find their rhythm. And it

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Speaker 1: happened once again, and against the team like you and

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Speaker 1: I said all last week, Michael, against a team like

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Speaker 1: the Bears, as proficient as they are, and the fact

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Speaker 1: that they were going to be their antennas, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: be up a little bit more in terms of the

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Speaker 1: second half. You can't do that, and the Packers did

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Speaker 1: and they got their seventh loss on the road. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean Green Bay was certainly uh fighting an uphill

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Speaker 1: battle in this one. You're banged up on both the

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Speaker 1: offensive line and the defensive line, with some starters being out.

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Speaker 1: You lose Aaron Jones at running back early in the ballgame.

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Speaker 1: Jamal Williams stepped in played pretty well. I thought, Um,

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Speaker 1: the Bears obviously a much cleaner picture of health than

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Speaker 1: the Packers are. But that being said, I think I

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Speaker 1: think the most frustrating thing about it West is that

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Speaker 1: you know, with the fake punt, the Packers stop it,

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Speaker 1: they capitalize and score tie up the game fourteen fourteen

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Speaker 1: after being down fourteen to three at half. But then

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Speaker 1: the Bears decided to get tricky again. When they're in

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Speaker 1: scoring range to take the lead, they go with a

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Speaker 1: wildcats shotgun thing with Tarik Cohen and Mitch Trubisk flanks

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Speaker 1: out to the side and then Cohen botches the read

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Speaker 1: option handoff just hands the Packers the football fumble green

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Speaker 1: Bay recovers. We talked about turnovers and how important they

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Speaker 1: would be in the game. And it's like, there's the

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Speaker 1: moment fourth quarter on the road, the home team is

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Speaker 1: just blown its chance to reclaim the lead in scoring territory,

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Speaker 1: scoring territory exactly. They wouldn't have had to gain another

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Speaker 1: yard and they probably take a seventeen fourteen lead. Their

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Speaker 1: Packers get the ball, the game is still tied, but

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Speaker 1: three and out, you allow a touchdown three and out

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Speaker 1: along pump return and a field goals. Like the game

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Speaker 1: just changed instantly, because whereas it seemed it was going

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Speaker 1: to start to snowball in the Packers direction, the snowball

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Speaker 1: just started rolling down the hill the other way. And uh,

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Speaker 1: and another one got away from Green Bay. Yeah it did,

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Speaker 1: and and that was probably the most disheartening thing. They

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Speaker 1: had two major momentum shifting plays, as you mentioned. There

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Speaker 1: was that recovery by Dean Lowry being able to jump

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Speaker 1: and then there was also uh, fatal Brown give him

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Speaker 1: the Packers claim him. He ends up making a phenomenal play,

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Speaker 1: a solo tackle on third and three makes it fourth

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Speaker 1: and two, stopping the running back. I can't think of

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Speaker 1: his I think it was, oh, that's right, number thirty

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Speaker 1: three and yeah the third guy, yea, so he stops

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Speaker 1: him and it's third, it's fourth and two. They tried

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Speaker 1: to do some trickeration on that to do the fake

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Speaker 1: punt direct snap to Benny Cunningham, Brown and Jake Kumarro

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Speaker 1: are ready for it. They stop him and you get

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Speaker 1: were not able to capitalize on those. We know, what

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Speaker 1: of a grind it's been for the defense and specially

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Speaker 1: well the Packers did capitalize on the fake punt. They

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Speaker 1: drove down and scored the touchdown. They did get there. Yes, absolutely, um,

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Speaker 1: I guess I meant more from the standpoint of just

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Speaker 1: the momentum factor. Yes, yeah, you're you're absolutely pull it

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Speaker 1: back in your regard. But yes, as far as points

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Speaker 1: were pure points were concerned, yes, huge play for them,

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Speaker 1: But you know, it's just was those things where it

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Speaker 1: just you thought, maybe this is what it's gonna take

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Speaker 1: to get the Packers going and get the Bears really reeling.

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Speaker 1: In a credit to Mattnegie's crew, both of them, they

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Speaker 1: they needed to clinch their first North title since two

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Speaker 1: thousand ten. Yeah, the Bears are in the playoffs now,

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Speaker 1: they'll have at least one home game as a Division champ. Um.

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Speaker 1: First playoff appearance since two thousand ten for Chicago when uh,

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Speaker 1: at Soldier Field when the Packers won and went onto

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Speaker 1: their title. But um, the Bears still in the hunt

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Speaker 1: now for a potential first round by because the Rams

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Speaker 1: lose on Sunday Night Football. Now Chicago's only one game

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Speaker 1: back and if if the Bears actually could tie up

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Speaker 1: the Rams record wise by the end of the season,

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Speaker 1: the Bears have the head to head there, So Chicago

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Speaker 1: still looking for bigger and better things in terms of

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Speaker 1: their positioning. Meanwhile, the Packers now two games left to go,

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Speaker 1: officially eliminated from the playoffs with the loss and with

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Speaker 1: Minnesota's victory over the Miami doll Fins. And uh, um,

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Speaker 1: you know Packers are a banged up team. We'll see

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Speaker 1: how things look going forward here and umm, but you

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Speaker 1: could you could just you could just feel it, you know,

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Speaker 1: the postgame press conferences with Joe Philbin and Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: the playoffs in some senses were you know, it was

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Speaker 1: of things that needed to fall into place. But losing

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Speaker 1: this game to a division rival, having them celebrated division

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Speaker 1: there were, um, it was this was a tough one

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Speaker 1: from Lambeau. The Packers came in confident that they would

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Speaker 1: fight for this one, and they did fight for this one,

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Speaker 1: but they just once again came up short. Well when

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Speaker 1: by saying, as a pipe train, it was a five

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Speaker 1: four or five percent chance, but you know, don't tell

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Speaker 1: Davante Adams that. Adams afterwards in locked room was like,

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Speaker 1: you know, to us, it's still seemed very realistic because

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Speaker 1: the Vikings to lose twice, especially after firing John d

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Speaker 1: But to Dante Adams to that locker room, they still

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Speaker 1: eight seven and one. But at the same time, as

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Speaker 1: Instagram and Twitter, you can create all the graphics you want.

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Speaker 1: At the end of the day, you have to win

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Speaker 1: the game. The Packers didn't do that. This is a

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Speaker 1: tough one for Green Bay in a number regards. One. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: you're going into an environment at Soldier Field that's going

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Speaker 1: to be energized. They're excited about their nine win football team,

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Speaker 1: as they should be. Um they got the tornado sirens

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Speaker 1: But you look at that game, Wes and it's it's

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Speaker 1: frustrating because it really looked like there were plays to

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Speaker 1: Joe Philbin said it best that that it's never just

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Speaker 1: there's a protection breakdown here, there's a route running issue there. Rogers,

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Speaker 1: without going into um a whole lot of detail, basically said,

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Speaker 1: of reasons, it just hasn't clicked with this offense on

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Speaker 1: The one silver lining I took away from this, and

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Speaker 1: I said it all last week, Mike. It was one

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Speaker 1: of my subheads for one of the inboxes we did

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Speaker 1: is we're about to learn a lot about both of

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Speaker 1: these teams. I think we've learned over the last two

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Speaker 1: and a half weeks. Chicago Bears are very real rent

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Speaker 1: defense and the way they're built. If Mitchell Robinsky protects

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Speaker 1: go a long way. From the Packers perspective, this was

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Speaker 1: it keep you in the playoff race, but these are

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