1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: This is Cowboys Sam, and this is Eh John. And 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: we've last showed in some amazing stories for y'all the 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: Okay Storytime podcasts. But before that we got a wrangle, 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: a quick little two minute out break from those bucking sponsors. 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: We bucking love so much and they're paid us the 6 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: books to help this show stay alive. My fiance's late 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: wife's family is obsessed with him. It's becoming a problem. 8 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 2: He's just too cool. 9 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: I twenty five female, am getting married to my fiance 10 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: twenty nine Mail and met. When we first got together, 11 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: he told me that he was married from twenty to 12 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: twenty two years old to his high school sweethearts. We 13 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: met when he was twenty five, but she passed away 14 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: from sepsis due to a botched surgery. That is so sad. 15 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: Pay didn't cope well and stayed in contact with her family, 16 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: namely her father and two sisters nineteen and twenty four. 17 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from cut Off Family Away 18 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: And if you want to submit your own stories, go 19 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: to the r slash Okay Storytime stubret it. So it 20 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: was a side spot for me for a while at 21 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: the beginning because there was so much history they had 22 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,839 Speaker 1: that we would not have, and it was tough knowing 23 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: that she was all around him red flag. I never 24 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: told him and decided to work through it on my own, 25 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: especially with the fact that he would often spend time 26 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: with her family during our relationship. Her birthday, their anniversary, 27 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: and the anniversary of her death. He'd spend the day 28 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 1: with her family three days. It was uncomfortable at first 29 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: knowing the man I loved was reminiscing about love he 30 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 1: had with someone else, but I kept trying to see 31 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: it from his perspective, so if he is locked in 32 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: on the pundit square, I can see her. But the 33 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: last couple of years, I've been completely secure in a 34 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: relationship and it doesn't bother me much anymore. He proposed 35 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: this time last year, and I was over the moon. 36 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 1: I love this man with all my heart, but I 37 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: recently learned that he never told them the family of 38 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: his girlfriend that we got engaged, his ex girlfriend, his 39 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: dead girlfriend. 40 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: That's not good. 41 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: I've been trying local coffee shops for the past few months, 42 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: rather than my usual run and try to one. His 43 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: late wife's sister worked there, and other than being awkward, 44 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: she did a double take of my engagement ring and 45 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: looked really unhappy. I didn't mention it and left. 46 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 2: See that's the problem they were going to find out. 47 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: He should have been the one to tell them. 48 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: My fiance told me that she kept messaging him on 49 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: social media about it, and I wasn't happy that he 50 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: kept a secret. He apologized, and it was very depleted 51 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: by it all. He said that he didn't want to 52 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: hide me, but didn't want to hurt them either, and 53 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: that both of us were a huge part of his life. 54 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: And I understand that and let him off the hook slightly. 55 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: Just told him to be upfront with them from now on. 56 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: That was that, at least I thought so. A week 57 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: ago on Sunday, I got a message, I'm listening. Stop 58 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: sending things in chat about blood types. You're distracting her. 59 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: I got a message from the twenty four year old 60 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: asking if I was happy with myself, that I would 61 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: never replace his late wife and that if she was 62 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: still alive, he'd choose her over me every time. Yikes. 63 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 2: Come on. 64 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: She even said that he only kept me around for 65 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: my money and something to stick his dong in. I 66 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: ignored it, but I can't say that it didn't affect 67 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: me when you're in my position. All these points are 68 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: ones you have to work through, and it's not easy 69 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: to get over those insecurities. It feels like a knock 70 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: in the teeth when they're used against you. I mentioned 71 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: it to him, and he comforted me and reassured me. 72 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: He said he'd set boundaries with her and that I'd 73 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: never hear from her again. Fine by me. 74 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: A big part is on her fiance. Yeah, he had 75 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: communicated earlier. Maybe we could have at least mitigated. 76 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: That was until I found out my car with the 77 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: word or salutes O whre and grave robber. 78 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:56,839 Speaker 2: These people need therapy so bad in red paint. I'm sorry. 79 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: Did they expect him to remain celebrate for the rest 80 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: of his life because because his partner. 81 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: Passed, maybe they expected him to run through the family. 82 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: You know, maybe that's what the sister thought. 83 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: At least, Oh, the sister that's writing that wanted O 84 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: piece fiance for herself. Ho. I had saved for this 85 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: car for a year and it was expensive, very expensive. 86 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 1: The tires were slash, the windows cracked. I asked the 87 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: store a few doors down for their CCTV camera footage 88 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: of that night, but it was blurry and didn't catch much. 89 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: I did manage to catch half a license plate, though, 90 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: and the color and make of a car. It was 91 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: late wife's youngest sister's car. 92 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, take him a court. 93 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: I told him I was filing a police report, and 94 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: he asked me to hold off until he talked to 95 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: them first. I told him no, but I would if 96 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: they paid for the damages and apologized to my face. 97 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 2: I think that's fair. I think that's fair, like absolutely not. 98 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: The only way that I'm not filing a police report 99 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: if they'd pay for the car. 100 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: He set up the meeting for last night, and it 101 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: did not go well, to say the least. Everyone was shouting. 102 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: The sisters told me they guess both of them had 103 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: nothing to be sorry for, and that I should leave 104 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: their family alone, including my fiance and their family. He 105 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: told them that it wasn't fair to him to be 106 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: lonely forever and that he'd hoped they'd be supportive of 107 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: him finding love again. They told him he was betraying 108 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: late wife and that he never loved her. If he'd 109 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: marry someone else, they didn't have a problem with him 110 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: having a new girlfriend because he'd realize she was the 111 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: only one for him and get tired of me. 112 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: She's traumatized by losing the late wife. They need there 113 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 2: be so bad. 114 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: And now that that hadn't happened, they were putting their 115 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: foot down. So they were hoping he would see the 116 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: light and be like, oh, I'll just you know, be 117 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: with late wife's ghosts forever. The youngest told him to 118 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: tell me that they were right and that he'd never 119 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: love anyone like late wife. My fiance broke down at 120 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: the table. I picked him up and made us leave. 121 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: I told them I'd be finally report and suing for 122 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: damages and the next time they saw us would be 123 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: in court. When we got back and calm down, I 124 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: gave him an ultimatum. Is this the time to give 125 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: the ultimatum? It sounds like he was prey the whole things. 126 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: I need to know what the ultimatum is. 127 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: Well, the ultimatum either he cuts contact or we call 128 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: off the wedding and go our separate ways. I wasn't 129 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: going to live my life with this pestor mens and 130 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: someday subject my children to their bullying. He said they 131 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: would never bully a child, but I shot him down 132 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: and said he didn't expect any of this either. He 133 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: called their father, who was fairly chill about it all, 134 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: but still defending his daughters. They say I shouldn't control 135 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: him and that I'm horrible for cutting them off. I 136 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: don't know what to do. I can't live like this, 137 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: and I don't think I should have to just because 138 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: we're getting married and there's an updates. Yeah, what do 139 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: we think about that ultimatum? 140 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 2: We know we don't like ultimatums on this show. Yeah, 141 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: I think what you are asking for, reasonable in general, 142 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 2: is reasonable. He has to cut them off because they 143 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 2: are being crazy. 144 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: I agree that he has to cut him off. I 145 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: just wonder about the time like he it sounded like 146 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: he was pretty broken from this whole thing. Give him 147 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: a chance to recover, and then give him the ultimatum, 148 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: like the next day or something. Hey, everyone, there's a 149 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: mini update to clear some things up before I have 150 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: a discussion with my fiance either later today or tomorrow 151 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: about my ultimatum. I didn't sleep at all yesterday or 152 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: the night before for obvious reasons. There's a ding on 153 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: my phone at least once an hour from them saying 154 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: one thing or another. Mainly the nineteen year old, and 155 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: I don't know what they've told people, but I've got 156 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: messages from one of their uncles and grandparents calling me 157 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: horrible stuff too, So obviously they've been spreading what's happened 158 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: this week and twisting it. I haven't blocked them because 159 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: I want to gain as much evidence as I can 160 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: for the inevitable case. Regardless of any outcome with my fiance, 161 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: I will be suing and filing a criminal case for 162 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: pestorments and vandalism and looking for a restraining order. I 163 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: just haven't had the mental fortitude to do so yet. 164 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: I'm hoping my fiance will help me. I haven't spoken 165 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: to my fiance since the argument at the table, other 166 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: than to tell him this or I do. It was 167 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: my choice to give him a couple of days space 168 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: to come to terms with everything, and I will contact 169 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: him when I'm ready. All this from the first message 170 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: till now has been a week. It's a huge weight 171 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: to contemplate leaving people you've known for fifteen years and 172 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: who you grew up with. I think it's really cool 173 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: that Ope recognizes that, yes, I feel like that's an 174 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: important correction. 175 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: She understands that there is a weight here. 176 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, he did set hard boundaries with the sister from 177 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: the coffee shop. As I've seen the messages. He said, paraphrasing, 178 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: you have no talk. You have no right talking to 179 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: Opie at all. If this is how you're going to 180 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: behave she doesn't deserve this and you've gone too far. 181 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 1: Why are you acting like this? And she responded with 182 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: more name calling him back and forth. He ended by 183 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: saying not to message me again and to make sure 184 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: everyone else does the same. I was happy with that. 185 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: At this point, only one person in the family had 186 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: an issue to my knowledge, so it was silly to 187 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: have him cut all them off. It may not be 188 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 1: enough for some, but it was enough for me to 189 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: feel safe and comfortable. For those saying he needs therapy 190 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: and counseling, he's already getting it good. That's good. That's good. 191 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 2: I'm honestly, I think they need therapy in counseling. 192 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: He's been getting it since before we even started dating. 193 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: After the incident at work. I don't know about any 194 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: of their family though, the first time I had a 195 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: conversation with any of them was that night. Some people 196 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: are wondering what late wife passed away of and it 197 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: was a batched weight loss surgery where she passed away 198 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: of sepsis. 199 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 2: That's devastating. That's devastating. Oh, like maybe like gastron, you know, oh, devastating. 200 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: People were wondering if he was somehow the reason behind 201 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: the surgery, hence the family's insane reaction, but he was 202 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: not in the slightest He likes bagger women and wouldn't 203 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: pressure something like that onto her. They are Yeah. I 204 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: also want to clear up that I'm not calling the 205 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: police about the car thing. It was entirely my idea 206 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 1: not to file charges in exchange for a face to 207 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: phase apology in damage payment. He only wanted me to 208 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: wait so that he could talk to her to see 209 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: if she regretted it, and then had the father pay 210 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: the damages. At the time, we thought it was just 211 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: an herold that smashed up my car, not both daughters. 212 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: Neither of us wanted to ruin her life. When I 213 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: found out it was both of them, it was full 214 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: steam ahead. Thank you for all your messages and hopefully 215 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: I'll have a positive update for you tomorrow. There is 216 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: an edit. There is more updates, But how do we 217 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: feel about like Op's update here. It seems like I 218 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: do like the space that she's giving for fiance and 219 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 1: recognize it. 220 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 2: I think he's also doing like making a lot of 221 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 2: moves to set boundaries. I still think that she should 222 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 2: absolutely go ahead with the restraining order and with the 223 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 2: police report, because they have refused to at all admit faults. 224 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I don't see a way that you 225 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: can preserve a relationship with his family. I just don't 226 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 1: see it. I chose for him to take this space apart. 227 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 1: It's not him being indecisive. I said to take time 228 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: and that i'd reach out so that his decision is 229 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: thought out. It's for me. I don't want to be 230 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: chosen only to be three kids down the line and 231 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: stuck in a resentment spilled mane. It's for me, Please 232 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: understand that. And we got an update two that we're 233 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 1: gonna jump straight into. So, well, what a wild morning 234 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: I've had. My fiance came over bright and early this morning, 235 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: and I've never been so danged higher. You may want 236 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: to take a seat because this one's gonna be long. 237 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: You said, See everyone is everyone popped and squatted pop squad. 238 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: So first of all, I want to set the record 239 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: straight here. A lot of people are coming for my 240 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: fiance over not cutting them off from the get go, 241 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: which I don't think is fair. He's a very mild mannered, 242 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: calm and calculating person, and that's who I always knew 243 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: he was. Nothing has changed. If he had been Rocky 244 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: Balboa and flipped the cafe table shouting obscenities, it would 245 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: not have been the man I fell in love with. 246 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: We love a mild mannered man, you know, a little 247 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: little superman Clark Kent kind of you know what I'm saying. 248 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 3: No, exactly what you're saying. 249 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: He did exactly what I expected him to do and 250 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: exactly what I was comfortable with. You may be attracted 251 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: to other things and men and expect other things, and 252 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: that's awesome, but not me. I love my men mild mannered, 253 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: like I like my hot sauce. Mild. 254 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 3: Can't do spicy. 255 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: Nope, I like my men mild and my women spicy. 256 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 3: All right, put that on the shirts. 257 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: Somebody put that on a shirt updates. I text him 258 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: saying I thought it was time to discuss this, and 259 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: he was back at home not a half hour later. 260 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 1: He'd been staying with a friend for a couple of 261 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: nights and we had no contact. We sat on a 262 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: bed to talk because my back is sore from all 263 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: the packing and I wasn't going to force myself to 264 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: sit at the table. Before we even got to talking, 265 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: he asked if we could cuddle for a minute. Definitely 266 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: took some weight off and were able to talk like 267 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: a couple and not awkward strangers. Regardless of some people's beliefs, 268 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: we do love each other and took me a very 269 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: long time to feel confident in that fact before anyone 270 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: calls me a doormat again. No, I was still sure 271 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: I would stick to my ultimatum, and the first thing 272 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: I asked was if he felt he had enough time 273 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: to make his decision, and he said he didn't need time. 274 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 1: He was very shocked and bewilled at how so much 275 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 1: could change in just a week and how everything he 276 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: knew was shook up and he couldn't think and went numb. 277 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: He did apologize that he didn't take a more defensive 278 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: stance at the cafe, and he doesn't want to make 279 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: excuses for it. An explanation was that he genuinely didn't 280 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 1: expect such a vitriolic response, which I think is understandable. 281 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 2: It's like a family that he's had been close to 282 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 2: for what was it, fifteen years. 283 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: It's a long long time time. It's a long time. 284 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 2: And also probably like trauma bonded. 285 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: Yeah too, I mean, because they all love his late 286 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: wife so much. Yeah, he hid the engagement because he 287 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: knew they weren't over late wife's death and would be 288 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 1: upset at the news. It wasn't like I would feel 289 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: upset by them not knowing, which I wasn't. Really. He's 290 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: known these girls since before they were in double digits, 291 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: and he would never have thought they were capable of it. 292 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: It came so far out of left field that he froze. 293 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: I asked him if there was any possibility that either 294 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: of them had a thing for him, and he looked 295 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: very confused and disturbed, which is what we thought. I 296 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: do think they got a thing for him. Yeah, maybe 297 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: they're fighting over who would get him, you know, I said, 298 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: how I've had people tell me it's not uncommon for 299 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: siblings to do this after a loss, and he thought, 300 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: on it turns out you were right nailed it. Do 301 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: you think there's any cheating? 302 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 2: No, I think that we're just going to find out 303 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 2: that they had a crush on him. I don't think 304 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 2: that he would have cheated on I don't I don't 305 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 2: think that he would have cheated. 306 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: Well, he said. The twenty four year old, about eight 307 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: months after a late wife's death, made a move and 308 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: tried to kiss him. He immediately left and told her 309 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: mother about it. Mother and father are divorced now, but 310 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: weren't then. Her mother made her see the school counselor 311 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: and didn't allow her to be alone with him for 312 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: a while. It was years ago, so he'd forgotten it 313 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: even happened. I don't know, he said. He was sure 314 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: that wasn't the case now because it had been so long, 315 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: But I'm not so convinced now that it matters anymore. 316 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: He opened up his Facebook and gave it to me 317 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: to read. Four year old had been messaging him, which 318 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: he ignored. She ranged from telling him off to crying 319 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: and saying how betrayed the family was trying to manipulate 320 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: him against me, blah blah blah. He said he was 321 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: sure that he needed to put them behind him. I 322 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: had been thinking it on and off since he proposed, 323 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: but couldn't bring himself to do it. After this week, 324 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: the fire was lit and he knew what he had 325 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: to do. It was all just abstract until suddenly it 326 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: was real. He asked me how I've been coping, and 327 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: I told him I felt like I'd done everything right, 328 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: but somehow things turned out worse than if I'd been 329 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: the jealous type and stop their contact at the beginning. 330 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: I tried to be understanding and put in so much 331 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: effort to be securing myself in a relationship, only for 332 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: everything I worked on to be thrown in my face 333 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: like I was a mistress that was cheating with him. 334 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: He didn't blink the entire time and just listened. 335 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 2: Ooh. 336 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: He said he should have been more observant and realized 337 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: I was struggling with this so that he can help me. 338 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: But I've always been the strong one, so he neglected 339 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: to do so. And he'll do better as I've I've 340 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: seen in a few comments now. His parents had him 341 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: in their late forties and are retired. He hates to 342 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: involve them in negativity, but I was stunned when he 343 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: said he'd been talking to them about this since the 344 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: first Facebook method. They were very understanding, but his father 345 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: took a tough love approach. He said, the best quote 346 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: I think I've ever heard, get your act together before 347 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: the jig is up. 348 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 2: That's the best quote you've ever heard. 349 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: Like they're better quotes. 350 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 2: Oh, He's like, Wow, that really spoke to me. I 351 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 2: don't think i've ever heard anyone say that before. You're right, Dad, or. 352 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: Your father in law, Papa wise, Woods of wisdom. 353 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 2: I will get my act together before the jig is up. 354 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: They offered to come and stay for a while and 355 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: help us move. I don't think that's necessary, but I 356 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: really appreciate the thought. On the subject of moving. I 357 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: mean it clear that I would not be living in 358 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: this house any longer than I had to, and he 359 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: completely agreed. The house's late wife his parents offered to 360 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: find us a place in their state, and he wanted 361 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: to have more of a support network. And I'm honestly 362 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: considering it. After all this, They're only a state away 363 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: for my own family, so it would be a lot 364 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: better off. His job is remote and I should be 365 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: able to find work there easily enough. I've been in 366 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: contact with a friend who's a mechanic, and they've quoted 367 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: me between one to two thousand dollars or the damages. 368 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: But that's an at costs estimate as a discount. A 369 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: few people I've said to get a real statement and 370 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: to shop around. The real cost is between four and 371 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: five thousand, and that's just for the noticeable damage. My 372 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: friend thinks they've done something to the engine, so thank 373 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 1: God see them. I couldn't drive it anywhere breaking sue them. 374 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: He thinks I may be entitled to a replacement car altogether. 375 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: If so, I will be sure to sue for it good, 376 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: and that's not going to be cheap. After all the 377 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: emotional things that were discussed. He mentioned, when would I 378 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: be comfortable enough to go to the police? I made 379 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: it clear he was okay with that, or I go 380 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: on my own. He said the surest I've ever seen him, 381 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 1: that this is what we needed to be done, and 382 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: he wasn't going to let them continue. He had done 383 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: enough to try to shield them, but he wasn't going 384 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: to let it come at my expense. I'm currently in 385 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: the bath, frothing in bath bombs love, but we'll be 386 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: going to the station as soon as I'm done. He's 387 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: downstairs right now printing out the new quotes from the 388 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,479 Speaker 1: mechanics and the messages the twenty four year old sent 389 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: him over the last couple of days, so we can 390 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: go prepare it. People have said that nothing will come 391 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: of it, and you may be right, but I have 392 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: to try, hoping my local police don't have anything better 393 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: to do. It's a small town, and to finish. And also, 394 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 1: by the way, we are far from finished. We're less 395 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: than halfway through to finish. I made a point of 396 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: asking again if he would cut them off or had 397 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: to go. He did not miss a beat and said 398 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: that they are no longer going to be part of 399 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: his life, even if I decided to leave. He did 400 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: ask for one last meeting to say goodbye to her 401 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 1: parents and to put a clothes on that part of 402 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: his life, and to explain to the girls that this 403 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: is not my fault, but his decision after seeing how 404 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: cruel they were capable of being. After that we would 405 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: block them on everything and move forward. And I was 406 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: completely fine with that. What do we think about the closure? 407 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 2: I think that's good. 408 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: I think that's good. 409 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 2: I think so. I think he needs it. Yeah, I 410 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 2: mean he already lost his wife in such like a. 411 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: But I also feel like it almost feels like it 412 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: feels like, yes, it could give him closure, but it 413 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: almost feels like it's closure for the family, so sure 414 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: they don't act in weirder ways. 415 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 2: I agree. I think yeah. I think he's saying like, hey, 416 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 2: don't go over after my wife. This is my decision 417 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 2: and hopefully that works. 418 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: So there we have it. Writing all this out and 419 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: being able to talk to people about everything has been 420 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: both helpful and a good distraction from the dumpster fire 421 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,239 Speaker 1: that was my life, and everything worked out as well 422 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: as I could have hoped. Again, there's an update after this, 423 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: so we're going to get into more of the story. 424 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: We'll see how his meeting goes with them. Is it 425 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: gonna go well? I wonder. I'm sure they won't be 426 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: very happy about it, but that's not my problem. Thank 427 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: you all, and I'll update after they've met up and 428 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: there is let's freaking dive in another update. So it 429 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 1: seems I've been naughty because I got temporary banned on 430 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: here for three days in chat someone who's calling me 431 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 1: every derogatory and sexist term imaginable. But I was put 432 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: in time out for defending myself. I appealed, but the 433 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: appeal took the band time away. Oh well, sorry, this 434 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 1: update is taking so long for reasons stated above. So 435 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: we drove down to the police station with our block 436 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: of paperwork and had a couple hours talk. They were 437 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: so sweet about everything, as some of you expected. They 438 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: did say I should have come earlier, but they didn't 439 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 1: really care because it was only a few days. They 440 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: said that it often takes people about this amount of 441 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 1: time to actually file charges if they weren't in immediate 442 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: threat or danger. So unless someone was about to throw 443 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: the old one two's, this was par for the course. 444 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: I handed them everything and it looks like I've got 445 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: plenty of evidence. They'll be contacting my insurance on my 446 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 1: behalf to get the ball rolling so they can come 447 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: to a check of the car themselves, and then they 448 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: can open a claim with me if I want. They're 449 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: not filing a claim, they're just notifying about the criminal damages. 450 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: I filed criminal damages for pastor mento vandalism, and they'll 451 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: notify me with more details about my restraining order. This week, 452 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 1: my fiancee told the police that he was planning on 453 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: meeting with late wife's family and asked if that would 454 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: contradict my case, right, because he's like oh, is if 455 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: creating a relationship with them, you know, ur it's the 456 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: ability to get a restraining order whatever. Yeah, and they said, no, 457 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: we're not married at the time of filing, so legally 458 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: we're two separate entities in this case or something. So 459 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: my car is totaled. My mechanic friend, I'm going to 460 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: call him Tom because I can't keep saying. My mechanic 461 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: friend and his partner at the shop did a full 462 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: check on my car and this is the damage they found. 463 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: So we're getting a full. 464 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 2: Full list of what's going on with this car. 465 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: Shattered windshield, four slash tires, two broken windows, paint obvious 466 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: I think, unknown substance in the engine, oil, and battered 467 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: body work. 468 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 2: They did a number. 469 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 1: They said, with this amount of damage, I should just 470 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: go for a new car. So that's what I'll be doing. 471 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and make sure they freaking pay for it. 472 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's so rough. If anyone is curious, 473 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: it's evolvough. I'd always wanted one and managed to buy 474 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: a new one two years ago. Either they get me 475 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: a new car or they'd be set back around sixty 476 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. That's an expensive volve. What does the sixty 477 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: thousand dollars volver live like right now, Yeah, that's that's 478 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: an expensive Volvough the amount classifies the vandalism as a felony, 479 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 1: so they could be looking at jail time too. 480 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 2: Obviously clearly a felony. 481 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: My fiance met with the family on Saturday and Tom 482 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: sat by the window. I currently live in a one 483 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: party state, so as long as my fiance consents, the 484 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: recording can be used in my case. While it may 485 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: not be as drama filled as some of you may want, 486 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: it was still pretty stressful to see. They met at 487 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: the same cafe that we did before, and Tom sat 488 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: a few tables away. Fiance arrived after their father and 489 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: before them for the best because they managed to have 490 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: a calm conversation for once. I thought it was gonna 491 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 1: blow up. 492 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was gonna be like how dare 493 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 2: you fight? 494 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: Fiance told him how he was feeling, and father in 495 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: law was very understanding but still trying to minimize. He 496 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: was saying things like, you know, they missed late wife, 497 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 1: and they'll come around. You just need time to come 498 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 1: to terms with you moving on. Kept trying to initiate 499 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: paying for the damages, but fiance wouldn't talk about it 500 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 1: until the sisters arrived. It was like butter wouldn't melt 501 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: with a twenty four year old, but nineteen came in 502 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: like the Tasman devil. My fiance didn't acknowledge anyone until 503 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: it all settled down. Where then he said this would 504 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: be his last meeting with all of them and they'd 505 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 1: be going their separate rays. He turned to the girls 506 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: and said that he would miss who he thought they were. 507 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 2: That that's kind of hit deep. 508 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: That's got it for someone. 509 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 2: To say, I miss who I thought you were. 510 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: Oh oh, that is a line. 511 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 2: See that's that's a good line. 512 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: That's a good line. Yeah. 513 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, when the act is over, the jig is up. 514 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 2: That's a bad lot. That's just a very SciTE. 515 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. I've heard that the mill, but I haven't heard. 516 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 2: I miss who I thought you were. 517 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: That is that cuts deep. But the way they could 518 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: treat people horrified him, especially me. He said that this 519 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: was all him and they needed to accept that I 520 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: was not to blame. He even said that it was 521 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: me who offered the apology in exchange for not filing charges. 522 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 1: The nineteen year old then interrupted, asking what charges, and 523 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: that no one was going to charge them for barely 524 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: touching a car. She was a deer in headlights. When 525 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: he asked what they'd done to the engine oil, and 526 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: the two looked at each other. Seems they didn't expect 527 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: me to find out. H The groveling twenty four year 528 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: old tried to touch his hand and told him he 529 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: had to stop me pressing charges because this would ruin 530 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 1: her and interfere with the nineteen year old's college. Oh 531 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 1: you should have thought about that, he said. It was 532 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: too late, and the cops should be issuing a warrant soon. 533 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: It can take a few days. I thought it was 534 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: an instant thing, but apparently not. This is when their 535 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: dad got involved and said for everyone to calm down 536 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: and fix this like adults. Now. He wants his girls 537 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: to be adults. I see. He asked if fiance would 538 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: convince me to drop the charges in exchange for that apology, 539 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 1: and he'd pay the damages. When my fiance said it 540 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: was sixty thousand dollars. The eyes he gave to those 541 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: women would shave the hair off a cat. The video 542 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 1: wasn't the best, but I swear I could see the 543 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: color drain from their faces. It may sound awful, but 544 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. Call me what you will. They kept 545 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: going on about apologizing and that they'd pay, but he 546 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: just said it was too late and he was done. 547 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: He tried to be civil, but they were the ones 548 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: that wouldn't let him go. The twenty four year old 549 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: actually asked him to set up a meeting with me 550 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 1: so they could get to know me and put it 551 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: all behind us. What crocodile tears? You know? 552 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 2: Too late? 553 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: Too late late? Memj grow says, play a dog games? 554 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 1: Oh win adult prizes? 555 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 2: Yup? Sorry, you gotta pay that sixty thousand now. 556 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: He didn't reply, and after the silence, they piped up again, like, 557 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 1: so she won't even meet us, so she's behind all 558 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: this because she doesn't want us around. We'll see about that. 559 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: Not using the exact quotes because I don't know if 560 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 1: I'm allowed, so not risking it thinks that's it went 561 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: on and on. Frankly, it was funny more than harmful, 562 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: but they didn't incriminate themselves. More and more for my 563 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: pestorment case. And the nail on the coffin was the 564 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 1: nineteen year old said, if we can do that to 565 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: a car, Imagine what else we could do? 566 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 2: Threat? Threat, threat, threat? 567 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 1: How are you talking like a mob boss? 568 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 2: Nineteen year old girl going? If we could destroy your car, 569 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 2: imagine what we could do to a person. 570 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: Imagine if your shoes were filled. 571 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 2: With Magine that your body was that car. 572 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: Imagine that your body was at the bottom of it. 573 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 2: Would that your body was that vovo That we could 574 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 2: do a whole lot of damage. 575 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 3: The V ninety cross country and MSRP is around sixty thousand. 576 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 2: Imagine that those slash dies were your arms and the 577 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 2: engine oil was your blood. I could do a whole 578 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 2: lot of damage. 579 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,719 Speaker 1: Oh lot, That, my friends, is both a confession and 580 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 1: a threat of bodily harm. My fiance said one loud 581 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 1: stop before wishing father in law well and telling the 582 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: girls to not come near me. Then got up left, 583 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: and that's where the recording ends, because you wouldn't be 584 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: able to use anything afterwards. Anyway. As for moving, we're 585 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: pretty much all packed up and have a truck coming 586 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: on Friday. We'll be staying with his parents until we 587 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 1: find a place. We're looking at buying this time, but 588 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 1: might get an RV in the meantime, so we're not 589 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: all stepping on each other. I doubt his parents would 590 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 1: mind it all. But this is the last update for 591 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: a while. I think I have a wedding to finish, 592 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: a venue, to change, new invites, etc. In less than 593 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: two months to do it all. Send help, but thank 594 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: you all for being ears and helping me to get 595 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: through this. It only distracts me from ruminating and digging 596 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: a huge mental hole. I guess what, Sophia, what you 597 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: thought it was over? 598 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 2: I thought it was over. 599 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: You thought it was done. 600 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 2: I thought it was done. 601 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: But there is a fourth update. But there's a fourth update, 602 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 1: come and right up your little buttercups, So strap in. 603 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: But what do we think about this meeting? So we 604 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: decided that it was good to have a final send off. 605 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 1: What do you think about how oh he responded the 606 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 1: family and how the family responded to him. 607 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 2: You beat Ope's field too? 608 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: Oh pis fiance? 609 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? I think that was all brilliant. I think not 610 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 2: only was it a final send off, but it was 611 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 2: a way to now get you know, even more evidence evidence. Yeah, 612 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 2: and clearly these people are more than a little crazy. Yeah, 613 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 2: yike seg seggs, they're threatening bodily harm. 614 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: So update four, Sam here og host. We're gonna get 615 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,239 Speaker 1: back to these stories, but here's three minutes fads from 616 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 1: our sponsors. First. So it's been a while. Guys, calling 617 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: the past few months a roller coaster wouldn't quite do 618 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: a justice. A lot has happened, and I hope I 619 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: don't leave anything out here it goes. So, first, we 620 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: moved away. We're only a couple of towns over from 621 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: my husband's parents legally, but we kind of just live 622 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: in their backyard and my own are a state over Hallujah. 623 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: It's been really great living in our own new RV, 624 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: and we've been able to take small trips now and 625 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: then too, which has been a great breather. Took a 626 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: chunk out of our house savings, but we're not too 627 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: worried about it. Looking for a house has been fun too. 628 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: I can't speak to what have happened, but by a 629 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: stroke of luck, the warrants came through the day before 630 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: our moving day, and the sisters spent the whole move 631 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: in police custody. I'm sure it was not as formal 632 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: as cuffs and interview rooms, but I'd like to imagine 633 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: it that way. So we didn't have to deal with 634 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: any drama that for sure would have happened otherwise. As 635 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: I said before, we didn't block them because we wanted 636 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: to keep the line open for more evidence. M boy, 637 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: was that a good idea? The nineteen year old has 638 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: only now just stopped sending me my messages. Start off 639 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: with pleading and hoping for a meetup, then went to 640 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: calling me names and such for trying to ruin her life. 641 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: But the past few weeks have been pure rage, which 642 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: has been draining, if entertaining. She says she'll find me 643 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: and I'd better watch my back. Blah blah blah. My 644 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: printer has been working overtime. As you can imagine, so 645 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: many receipts to give to my lawyers. 646 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 2: She just keeps digging her own freaking grace. 647 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: I know, I know, I mean, hey, Opie's case is 648 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: a rock solid, rock solid, so many receiepts to give 649 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: my lawyer. The two twenty four year old is still 650 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: working on. My husband reached ahead a few days ago 651 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: before the wedding. We should have changed the dates, but 652 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: it just wasn't feasible. We had family from all over 653 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: that had taken time off work and we really wanted 654 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: everyone to be there after what happened. She tried to 655 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: call my husband over a dozen times and actually left 656 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: two voicemails. She was crying and hyperventilating, saying how she 657 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: didn't want to lose him. For those of you who 658 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: said she still had a thing for him in Dingdong. 659 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: My husband listened to the voicemails with me, and she 660 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: just rambled. It was actually quite sad. She said that 661 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: she always thought they would be together because they've been 662 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: through so much together and it felt right. She blamed 663 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: him for leading her on and making her fall for him, 664 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: only to choose someone else that he hardly knew. She 665 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: even said she felt replaced, which made me uncomfortable. All 666 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: this all the while degrading him for betraying his late 667 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: wife by moving on at all. I genuinely do not 668 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: understand her logic. As for my car, we found out 669 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: what the unknown substance was. It was anti freeze. The 670 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: entire engine was written off and with everything else. My 671 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: insurance launched a case against them for the cost of 672 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: a new car. I was expecting sixty thousand dollars or so, 673 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: but Tom, my mechanic friend, said to ask for more 674 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: based on the current market value and such and they 675 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: came back with a new offer, seventy five thousand dollars. Yes, keon, 676 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: what's a seventy five thousand dollars olive? 677 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 3: I look like, Oh no, I'm too hot hot, let 678 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 3: me look it up. 679 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,479 Speaker 1: It took over a month for the money to hit 680 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: my account, but I got it. Seventy five big ones. 681 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 2: Dang man, you won. 682 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: As for the case, I'm no longer going after them 683 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: for repayment my insurances, so that's one less thing I 684 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: have to worry about. As far as I know, their 685 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: father is paying for the legal fees, but I doubt 686 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: he'll pay back the insurance company for them. There is 687 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: still a case against them for pesterment and threatening behavior, 688 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: and I'm suing for the money it took to move 689 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: away and the emotional stress. My lawyer says they'll be liable, 690 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: and it's looking like they want to settle. I don't 691 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: feel great about going for emotional distress, but after everything 692 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: they've done, it was surely yeah, emotionally. 693 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 2: Distressing threatened you multiple times. 694 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,959 Speaker 1: The courts are moving slowly, so I don't have anything 695 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: new on the criminal case yet other than that they 696 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,959 Speaker 1: are going to plead guilty. Shouldn't be long now, and 697 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: it's looking like they're getting probation and mandatory anger management, 698 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: not a stint in jail, but oh well, at least 699 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: they'll both have a record. My husband has been down 700 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: for a while since we left, but he hasn't wavered 701 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: in supporting me. 702 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 2: Helb you husband, I think he's allowed to feel a 703 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 2: little down. 704 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: He's getting back to his old self now that he's 705 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: settling at work, and he's enjoying being closer to his parents. 706 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: It's been great for our relationship too, because we all 707 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: get on so well. And if you want to get 708 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: on well with us, you should listen to full episodes 709 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: of stories just like this. Go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts, 710 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: or your favorite podcast app and search. Okay, storytime, there's 711 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: another relevant updates. But how are we feeling about where 712 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: things are ending up? 713 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 2: I think that everyone, I mean op and her partner 714 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 2: have taken all the right steps here. I think Opie's 715 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 2: partner felt a little bit of he was unsure about it, 716 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 2: like he wasn't. He didn't go full steam ahead into 717 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 2: cutting them off because they were really important part of 718 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 2: his life. 719 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I understand that. I understand that, but I 720 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: feel like he's kind of made all the right moves 721 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: since then. 722 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, like once he realized, oh they are a huge problem, 723 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 2: let's pump the brakes, let's get them out of my life, 724 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 2: he did all of that, you know, So I think 725 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 2: all of the right steps. 726 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: How it was made, all the right steps. What a 727 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: crazy family to be, like to. 728 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,479 Speaker 2: Crazy to find out that they were this crazy all 729 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 2: after fifteen years. 730 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: I could understand maybe, you know, the twenty four year 731 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: old being crazy, but the fact that it's both the 732 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: twenty four year old and the nineteen year old that 733 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: are spearheading it, and the dad and the mom are 734 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: just kind of being like, yeah, kids will be kids. 735 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 2: Let's just know what it goes. 736 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: So it goes, Yeah, a little crazy, But we do 737 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: got a little bit more of this story as of 738 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: the twenty first, I'm a married woman. Let's go. We 739 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: got through the marriage. It was very tack and stressful 740 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: to change basically our entire wedding in two months, but 741 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: we did it, and our guests were so understanding. We 742 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: had to settle for a few things like our cake 743 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: and catering, but everything else worked out amazingly. Now, we 744 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 1: couldn't imagine any other way. It happened as it was 745 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: all supposed to. All in all, things are going well 746 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: and thanks to everyone who got invested. It's been a 747 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,879 Speaker 1: tough journey, but I'm just glad to have them out 748 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: of my life. And that is where this story ends. 749 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I think this is a prime example of 750 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: what happens when you have a deep familial relationship with 751 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 1: someone that needs to end. It's going to be. 752 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 2: Hard, absolutely, I mean, like tearn off a. 753 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: Leech, Yeah, exactly, and it's and it's uh, but it's necessary. 754 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: And sometimes sometimes you only see who someone is when 755 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,800 Speaker 1: they're actually being like emotionally tested, right, Like maybe like Ope, 756 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: Ope's fiance never saw a jealous side of it family, 757 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: so never was exposed to the crazy that they had. 758 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: But it is. But I'm like surprised that it took 759 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: fifteen years to get like this. 760 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 2: I I know, fifteen years because it seems like they 761 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 2: were fine with OPI when they were just dating. It 762 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 2: was the marriage that really triggered them. 763 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean I think the twenty four year 764 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: old's like, oh my god, I'm never going to give 765 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 1: a chance to actually be with him. 766 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. Ms Woozy says I hope the twenty four year 767 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 2: old can't escape the wedding photos online, so she's constantly 768 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 2: reminded what a butt she was. 769 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 3: But that's what a seventy five k all looks like. Whoa, 770 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 3: it took me a second. 771 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 1: I like the sixty five k one more. 772 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 3: Well, that's like a plug in hybrid. Oh it's a 773 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 3: weird one. 774 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: Not a big It's not not as big a fan 775 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: of that. Alvough. We have heard a lot of stories 776 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: of like the siblings basically stepping up and becoming, yeah, 777 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: the partner and becoming the partner. And I think we 778 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: were like, I think at some point we're like, oh, 779 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 1: like that's a little odd. But a lot of the 780 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,479 Speaker 1: comments we actually saw were like grief, basically Kim Robers 781 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 1: grief change things to people, And that's actually more common, 782 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: maybe more accepted than you might think. 783 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 2: It's like pretty common in like different cultures. 784 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: Where it's like the brother steps up or like like 785 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: the really good friend up. Jellybu says, it's expected to. 786 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, like if you've seen a boy and the heron, 787 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:17,760 Speaker 2: that's what happens. 788 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 1: Oh really, yeah, Like. 789 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 2: The whole plot of the movie is that the young 790 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 2: boy loses his mom and then his aunt becomes his mom, 791 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 2: and they kind of have to deal with that new relationship. 792 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: I never saw that. 793 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 2: It is a good movie if you go into it 794 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 2: just for the vines, the reds. It is a very 795 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 2: confusing movie. And that is coming from a hardcore me 796 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 2: as Oki fan. I asked my sister to change your 797 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 2: wedding date because I'm graduating that day. 798 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I can't change my graduation. You have the 799 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: power to change your wedding. 800 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 2: My sister is getting married next year on May seventeenth, 801 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. This is a problem because I graduate 802 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 2: that day. By the way, this comes from civil signature 803 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 2: Nino seven. And if you want to spit your own stories, 804 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 2: go to the r slash Okay storytime separate it. So 805 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 2: I was informed about the date in March. Long story short, 806 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 2: I was looking at my academic calendar just a few 807 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 2: days ago and I found out that was my graduation 808 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 2: day at my school. Usually graduates during the first week 809 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 2: of May, so this surprised me. I let my parents 810 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 2: know about the date, and they told me to tell 811 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 2: my sister. When I told her about the date, I 812 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 2: asked her if she could change the date. She told 813 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 2: me that she already changed the date three times and 814 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 2: she wasn't going to change it a fourth time. She 815 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 2: told me that she was sorry and she'll understand if 816 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 2: I can't come. I was kind of upset because I 817 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 2: thought it was very dismissive when I told her that. 818 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 2: She got mad and told me that I can't expect 819 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 2: her to try and change her date again, and that 820 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 2: it was set and it was final. Now, I'm kind 821 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 2: of worry that none of my family members would be 822 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 2: at my graduation and I won't be able to see 823 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 2: my sister get married. I understand that it's an inconvenience 824 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 2: for her, but she could change her wedding date. I 825 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 2: have no control over my graduation date. When I talked 826 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 2: to my parents about who's going to be my graduation, 827 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:02,839 Speaker 2: they just told me not to worry about that right 828 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 2: now because it's not time to stress about that. They're 829 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 2: not going to be there. That means no one's gonna 830 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 2: be there. 831 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 1: I if I was, I do think a marriage is 832 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: more important than a graduation. 833 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 2: I agree. 834 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 1: I didn't even want to attend my graduation, huh. 835 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 2: I agree. However, if Op's sister can still change the date. 836 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 1: That she should. 837 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 2: Then she should, but. 838 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 1: There might be a lot of things that are. 839 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 2: Like's if things are booked, then I'd be like, yeah, 840 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 2: she's already booked everything. It doesn't make sense, like really sucks. 841 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 2: Doesn't make sense if she has not booked things and 842 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 2: she just doesn't want to change the date because she 843 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:42,959 Speaker 2: just doesn't want to change the date. 844 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 1: I also feel like it's it's also not what she said, 845 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: it's how she said it. Yeah, it was like I'm 846 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 1: obtaining it for you. 847 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 2: It's like I've ready change it three times. It's annoying. 848 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,439 Speaker 2: If she didn't have anything holding her to that date, 849 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 2: I think she should change the date. My parents are 850 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 2: telling me that they are going to try convinced my 851 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 2: sister to change the date, but I doubt she will consensus. 852 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,760 Speaker 2: Not the ale commenters tell op that nobody is trying 853 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 2: to cause drama or be mean and that this is 854 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 2: a crappy coincidence. Comments by Ope, I'm not going to 855 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 2: a wedding if it's during my graduation. If no one 856 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,839 Speaker 2: in my family comes to my graduation, I'd like them 857 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 2: to tell me now instead of waiting until later. This 858 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 2: is her first wedding. I'm sixteen. She's twenty five. Oh oh, 859 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 2: it's your high school graduation. Graduation. 860 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,320 Speaker 1: I actually think a high school I think it was important. 861 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 1: It's more important than college graduation. 862 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 2: I think college graduations are huge. Yeah, at least mine was. 863 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 2: If I mean, I would have been like sad if 864 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 2: you guys hadn't come to my graduation. But like, also, 865 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,359 Speaker 2: it was like a fifteen minute thing. 866 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 1: You know, what do you mean? It wasn't fifteen minutes. 867 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:43,360 Speaker 1: It was like three hours. 868 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 2: No, but like the actual part of me going on 869 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 2: stage was. 870 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,320 Speaker 1: Like no, it was in two seconds. Yeah, I was 871 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 1: like thirty seconds. 872 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 2: Like I'm talking about the walking, right. I would have 873 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 2: been more sad if you hadn't gone to the theater 874 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 2: graduation because I actually like got awards and that was 875 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,959 Speaker 2: like actually a cooving. But the main graduation. I would 876 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 2: like to be at her wedding. But I'm not missing 877 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 2: my graduation. Yeah, I think the high school graduation is 878 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 2: like pretty big deal. 879 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,320 Speaker 1: Yeah I'm still hot. 880 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 3: But do you remember your graduation because I was there 881 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,240 Speaker 3: because you and Keiona graduated. 882 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 2: Oh my god, yeah, you would have been there. 883 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 3: I was there. I was the guy who show the 884 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:18,399 Speaker 3: confetti gun. 885 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 2: Why would I remember that because. 886 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 3: Everyone was really upset about you. 887 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't remember. 888 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 3: One of the teachers with like the curly hair was like, 889 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:26,879 Speaker 3: we're gonna take that away from you now. 890 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 2: I got the theater award. That's what I remember. 891 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 1: At shockingly your shockingly shockingly big deal, A big deal. Alert. 892 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,800 Speaker 2: Well, there's only like three you did I know exactly 893 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,240 Speaker 2: who you asked one of my friend's sisters. 894 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: I did, Well, what like, we went on a couple 895 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:44,360 Speaker 1: of dates. 896 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 897 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 3: I was at your graduation, yeah, man, Samon graduate. I 898 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 3: was always there in spirit, yeah, and also physically. 899 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 2: My parents are conflicted. They're not sure what to do, 900 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 2: and just told me that they're going to try and 901 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,320 Speaker 2: convince her to change the date. My sister wanted a 902 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 2: spring wedding at first, but she changed her mind wanting 903 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 2: and wanted to get married during September, but most of 904 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 2: us would be in school by that time. 905 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: Oh do it do it go go? 906 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,840 Speaker 2: Stays no, no, but most of us would be in 907 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 2: school by that time, and she just decided to change 908 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 2: it to May. It keeps getting pushed back. If OP 909 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 2: was at sister's graduation, yes, we all attended except her 910 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 2: college graduation. It was only a few of us who 911 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 2: could go, Me, my mom and dad, and two of 912 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 2: our cousins. It had limited tickets, but for her high 913 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 2: school one everyone went. The thing is also cater Rance's 914 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 2: All graduations are a big deal, very very true. But 915 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 2: I think that like high school graduation is a little 916 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 2: bit of a kind of it's a little bit different 917 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:49,320 Speaker 2: because you're eighteen. It's usually smaller and you are like you're. 918 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: Going on to the world your family. 919 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 2: Often, like college is that you know you're going out 920 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 2: in the world for like you're going to get a 921 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 2: job and stuff. But like high school graduation is you 922 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 2: have just become an adult. You were about to become 923 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 2: independent to a certain extent, live apart from your parents 924 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 2: for maybe the first time. It says it's one hour 925 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 2: and thirty one minutes away from my school. On the 926 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 2: calendar it says at four pm, but I know that 927 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 2: the graduates have to be there earlier for lineup, and 928 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 2: I'm not sure what time that'll be. My sister wants 929 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,319 Speaker 2: to start her wedding at five thirty. Even if my 930 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 2: graduation ends before, I'll miss part of it. I want 931 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 2: my family at my high school graduation too. They're both 932 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 2: important and I liked seeing how everyone was proud of 933 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 2: my cousins and sister when they graduated, and I want 934 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,759 Speaker 2: that for me too. In order for my parents or 935 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 2: anyone who wants to see the wedding, that means they'll 936 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 2: have to miss my graduation because of the time it 937 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 2: takes to get there. I can't go to a reception 938 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:47,919 Speaker 2: with no transportation. That even bigger point. Yeah, I don't 939 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,919 Speaker 2: think she really checked in with anyone. She just told 940 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 2: everyone that was the date. She originally had it for September, 941 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 2: but I wasn't working out for everyone, so she just 942 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 2: changed it. 943 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 1: It feels like she's not considering her sister in her wedding, 944 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: which is that sounds like she doesn't want her there. 945 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,719 Speaker 2: My parents are telling me not to talk about it 946 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,759 Speaker 2: right now. You have to talk about it right now 947 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,399 Speaker 2: before she books anything. And I would like it if 948 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,719 Speaker 2: everyone came to my graduation. I went to theirs, But 949 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 2: if I'm being honest, I don't really care if my 950 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 2: uncle's aunts and cousins don't come. I just wanted my 951 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 2: parents to be there for me. If both of my 952 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,839 Speaker 2: parents don't want to come to my graduation, they need 953 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,359 Speaker 2: to tell me now, so I can accept that no 954 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 2: one will be there for me instead of prolonging it 955 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 2: and refusing to talk about it. V Ran says she's 956 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 2: sixteen graduating in high school. No, this is a year 957 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 2: from now, So she's saying that she found out about 958 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 2: when her graduation date is a year before. 959 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,440 Speaker 1: Hey, it's Sam. We're going to get back to these stories. 960 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 1: But here's three bits of ads from our sponsors that 961 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:43,240 Speaker 1: keep the show alive. 962 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 2: Did I say she was too blame new It just 963 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,799 Speaker 2: sucks that I went to everyone everyone's graduation and I'm 964 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,359 Speaker 2: going to be the only person without having anyone there. 965 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 2: I got my hopes up for nothing, and that's what's 966 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,880 Speaker 2: upsetting me. I always looked forward to seeing my cousins 967 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 2: and my sister graduating, and I liked how I've everyone 968 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,760 Speaker 2: in the family was always there. If my parents can't 969 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 2: convince her to change the date, I'll accept it and 970 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 2: not expect anyone to come until told. If someone is, I. 971 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 1: Wonder, do you have one parent go to the wedding? 972 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 1: One parent go too? 973 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 2: Would they even do that? 974 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 1: Though? You know, well, I guess what would you do 975 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,359 Speaker 1: in this situation? Right? So graduation you can't you can't 976 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:20,920 Speaker 1: move the wedding. 977 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 2: Am I a parent in this situation? 978 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 1: You can't move the wedding and you can't move the graduation. 979 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,759 Speaker 2: I probably would split up if that, yeah, because I 980 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 2: don't think it's fair to have the you know, and 981 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 2: I would, and hopefully that would be an incentive to 982 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,719 Speaker 2: the other daughter, Yeah, to change the date. I would say, hey, 983 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 2: if this is your wedding, you can do that. One 984 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 2: of us needs to be there for your sister. 985 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:44,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, but does suck. 986 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:45,320 Speaker 2: It sucks. 987 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:46,479 Speaker 1: It sucks so much. 988 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,800 Speaker 2: And I would hope that them saying that would convince 989 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 2: the sister to be like, you're right, I want both 990 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 2: of my parents and my sister to be there. 991 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 992 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 2: So I feel like the parents keep pushing it off 993 00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:58,839 Speaker 2: and saying, oh, let's not talk about it, like, let's 994 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 2: not talk talk about it now. 995 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it needs to I think they just they 996 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 1: I think that's hoping it resolves itself. For like op 997 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,320 Speaker 1: just stops being, stops caring. 998 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 2: Somebody says to go no contact with her family, thanks, 999 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,799 Speaker 2: But I couldn't do that to my parents. I love 1000 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 2: them too much to stop talking to them. I also 1001 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 2: won't say I'll stop talking to my sister either, But 1002 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,839 Speaker 2: I will view her differently, and I'm not sure if 1003 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 2: we could ever be as close anymore. It hurt my 1004 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 2: feelings a lot when she basically told me that she 1005 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 2: was okay with me not being at her wedding and 1006 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,720 Speaker 2: didn't sound as concerned as me. She made it sound 1007 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 2: like it wasn't a big deal. It made me realize 1008 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 2: that I maybe valued her more than she valued me. 1009 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be hurt regardless not having everyone there, but 1010 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 2: I don't really know what I can do. And there 1011 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,839 Speaker 2: is an update, folks ten months later. 1012 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,759 Speaker 1: Oh boys jumps straight into it. I So, I guess 1013 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:51,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna know whether people are going to Ope's graduation 1014 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:52,400 Speaker 1: or the wedding. 1015 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,319 Speaker 2: I forgot about this account until I checked my other 1016 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,239 Speaker 2: Gmail accounts on my phone. It's May twentieth now, and 1017 00:45:58,320 --> 00:45:59,880 Speaker 2: I graduated. 1018 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 1: Who with no one there. 1019 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:05,319 Speaker 2: Everyone in my family went to my sister's wedding. I 1020 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:05,799 Speaker 2: didn't go. 1021 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 1: That is crushing. 1022 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 2: My parents left me my mom's car so i'd have 1023 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,799 Speaker 2: transportation while they were away and could still make it 1024 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 2: to my graduation. I graduated top five in my class, 1025 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,400 Speaker 2: and I felt alone. Oh when my name was called, 1026 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,360 Speaker 2: a few people in the crowd clap, But it wasn't 1027 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 2: like everyone else who had their whole famili's cheering, yelling 1028 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 2: and making noise. It was embarrassingly quiet. You could feel 1029 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 2: that I didn't have anyone there. However, I didn't even 1030 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,759 Speaker 2: know my school live streams graduations on Facebook until the 1031 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,799 Speaker 2: day afterwards. The camera angle was so far away you 1032 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 2: couldn't really see me though. You could only hear my 1033 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,840 Speaker 2: voice and see me when I was at the podium 1034 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 2: reading the pledge and when they said my name, that 1035 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 2: was it. So op was even like reading at their graduation. Afterwards, 1036 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,319 Speaker 2: I went to McDonald's and then went home. Oh, I 1037 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:58,239 Speaker 2: would have been at your graduation. That's so sad, that's hurt. 1038 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 2: If you ever had to graduate before me and I 1039 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,279 Speaker 2: was supposed to have a wedding, I would always move 1040 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,920 Speaker 2: it for you. I would move heaven and earth to 1041 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,759 Speaker 2: have you be at my wedding too, Because you're going 1042 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:09,800 Speaker 2: to be at my bridal party. 1043 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 1: Heck, yeah, I'm excited. 1044 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,399 Speaker 2: I was talking to as well about this. Actually, we've 1045 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 2: confirmed who my bridesmaids are. 1046 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're one of them. Cool. 1047 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,279 Speaker 2: Don't have to wear a dress, Oh, I mean you 1048 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,440 Speaker 2: can if you want to. Cool okay, because my graduation 1049 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 2: ended around five PM and my parents didn't make it 1050 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 2: home until around eleven that night. My parents tried to 1051 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 2: plan a celebratory dinner for me Sunday. The places I 1052 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,920 Speaker 2: really wanted to eat at are closed on Sundays and Mondays. 1053 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,400 Speaker 2: Now they're pushing it to this Saturday so everyone in 1054 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 2: the family could come. I already told them they can't 1055 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 2: really make up for missing my graduation though, at least 1056 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,760 Speaker 2: that's how I feel. A dinner after the fact doesn't 1057 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 2: fix how invisible I felt. To be honest, but you 1058 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 2: guys will never be invisible to us because we're always 1059 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,480 Speaker 2: making you full episodes for you to listen to with 1060 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,880 Speaker 2: stories just like this. Just go to Spotify, Apple Podcast, 1061 00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,759 Speaker 2: or iHeartRadio and search a Pocus story time. There is 1062 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 2: a little bit left to the sat. 1063 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,840 Speaker 1: It is sad. I mean, it's just like the family's 1064 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,480 Speaker 1: just so obviously choosing yeah the sister, and the sister 1065 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,400 Speaker 1: is not care, doesn't care if he's. 1066 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:15,280 Speaker 2: There, Like, Wow, not of your sister who it seems 1067 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,840 Speaker 2: like they were close before. Do not have your sister 1068 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,880 Speaker 2: be at your wedding to not have anyone go to 1069 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,120 Speaker 2: her graduation? Wow? But let's finish this off. They're upset 1070 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 2: that I said at dinner and wasn't really going to 1071 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,640 Speaker 2: make up for missing my graduation. They said they thought 1072 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 2: long and hard about it and figured I'd still have 1073 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,960 Speaker 2: the chance to graduate college later on and they could 1074 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,319 Speaker 2: see me then. Meanwhile, they wouldn't have to miss my 1075 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,800 Speaker 2: sister's weddings since she'd only get married once. My sister 1076 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 2: and the rest of the family have been texting me 1077 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 2: congratulations now, but it all just feels late, if that 1078 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 2: makes sense. 1079 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:46,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1080 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,120 Speaker 2: I'm happy I graduated, but I do feel a little overlooked. 1081 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 2: Comments coming one says this situation just sucks. I want 1082 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,279 Speaker 2: to give Op the biggest hug. Another reply says same. 1083 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,800 Speaker 2: The parents should have persuaded the older sister to change 1084 00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 2: the date or made dang sure one of them could 1085 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:00,640 Speaker 2: be there for. 1086 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, which is what we suggested. 1087 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,600 Speaker 2: What a crappy family all in all, heartbreaking. Comment two 1088 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,040 Speaker 2: says the situation sucks, but I'm a little baffled about 1089 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,719 Speaker 2: why at least one member of the family didn't go 1090 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,239 Speaker 2: to cheer on Op and then they high tail it 1091 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,359 Speaker 2: over to the wedding and attend the reception. If I'd 1092 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 2: been the oldest sister, I would have announced Op's arrival 1093 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 2: at the reception and let everyone cheer she walked in. 1094 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,920 Speaker 2: That would have been no one to go to the graduation. Yeah, 1095 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 2: and why did Op just go home instead of going 1096 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,680 Speaker 2: to the second after the wedding? Well, because Opie was sad. Yeah, 1097 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:31,400 Speaker 2: O if he was sad, no one came to their 1098 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 2: graduation and then expected. 1099 00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,280 Speaker 1: State or something like it was an hour and a half, 1100 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:38,400 Speaker 1: an hour a half away. 1101 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. Another reply says, yeah, even if it meant op 1102 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:42,759 Speaker 2: he missed some part of the wedding, I would have 1103 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,839 Speaker 2: wanted my sister there and would have arranged for her 1104 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,359 Speaker 2: to be there. I understand not moving the date because yeah, 1105 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,440 Speaker 2: wedding venues, you got to get them on time. But 1106 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,879 Speaker 2: I don't understand not doing everything possible to have your 1107 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,080 Speaker 2: sister there tbh. I blame the parents. Parents need to 1108 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,160 Speaker 2: know the date of the graduation, let everyone know and 1109 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:03,200 Speaker 2: make sure people attended the graduation, and that is the end. 1110 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:08,240 Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, I feel so bad for Op. But maybe 1111 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,000 Speaker 1: you kind of like know a little bit more where 1112 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,600 Speaker 1: you stand with these relationships and know maybe to invest 1113 00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 1: in different ones. Agreed, But it's definitely hard. 1114 00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,560 Speaker 2: Really sucks, sucks. 1115 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 1: It sucks to see, but but else sucks less. I mean, 1116 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,040 Speaker 1: I guess this sucks too, exactly the end of that story. 1117 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,640 Speaker 1: It's the end and this episode. Yeah, So if you 1118 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 1: love us, make sure to subscribe we love you, and 1119 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:34,360 Speaker 1: see it alone.