Speaker 1: Hello Sunshine, Hey Bessies.
Speaker 2: Today on the bright Side, we're popping off and dishing
Speaker 2: on the biggest pop culture stories of the week with writer,
Speaker 2: producer and podcast host Diosa fem which, alas Eleb spent
Speaker 2: a year buying new clothes to avoid doing laundry, is
Speaker 2: a tennis star turning the US Open into New York
Speaker 2: Fashion Week? And what summer trends are we ready to retire?
Speaker 2: It's Friday, August thirtieth. I'm Simone Boyce.
Speaker 3: I'm Danielle Robe and this is the bright Side from
Speaker 3: Hello Sunshine, a daily show where we come together to
Speaker 3: share women's stories, to laugh, learn and brighten your day. Simon,
Speaker 3: can you believe it's Labor Day weekend? How are we
Speaker 3: already at the unofficial end of summer?
Speaker 2: I cannot process how fast this year is already flying by.
Speaker 1: I mean we're already in full It feels so surreal.
Speaker 3: I just like it's almost January, which means it's the
Speaker 3: new year. I just don't understand how this happened.
Speaker 1: Crazy.
Speaker 3: Well, this summer, we've had such beautiful, wide ranging conversations
Speaker 3: with women that are truly impacting the world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think of all the inspiring conversations we've had
Speaker 2: about the Olympics with Andrea Joyce, Sonya Richards Ross, Sonny Choi,
Speaker 2: and Rebecca Low.
Speaker 3: Simone, I'm still dreaming in pasta since we talked with
Speaker 3: Jodo Di Laurentis.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, me too. Did you try her olive
Speaker 1: oil face scrub?
Speaker 3: Yet?
Speaker 4: No, you didn't make it for us. You were supposed
Speaker 4: to make it.
Speaker 3: Oh, I forgot that was my assignment. I'm not the
Speaker 3: chemist in this family.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll get to work on that.
Speaker 2: And you know what, since we talked with Mikayla j Rodriguez,
Speaker 2: I have been living by the Mikayla Jay school of thought,
Speaker 2: which is take no mess.
Speaker 3: It's so funny. Our whole office says it. Now we
Speaker 3: are just taking no mess. And I'm going to quote
Speaker 3: vitamin C. But as we go on, we remember all
Speaker 3: the times we had together. This was truly a summer
Speaker 3: to remember, Simone. But I'm really excited for what's to
Speaker 3: come this uptime.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm still giggling at how corny that was, Daniel.
Speaker 1: I'm ernest I like a little corny. Okay, I know.
Speaker 2: This about you by now, in all honesty, This summer
Speaker 2: has been one of the best summers of my life,
Speaker 2: and a huge part of that is thanks to you,
Speaker 2: Danielle and our amazing bright Side besties. I've had so
Speaker 2: much fun with all of you and we can't wait
Speaker 2: to pop off with you today. But before we do,
Speaker 2: it's time to spotlight our favorite moment of the week,
Speaker 2: brought to you by our friends at BMW.
Speaker 3: This week, we're shining a light on someone who is
Speaker 3: used to seeing her name and lights, but not for
Speaker 3: what we're shouting out today. She's a singer with a
Speaker 3: Lifetime Achievement Award and a one hundred percent approval rating.
Speaker 3: Can you guess who it is? None other than Dolly
Speaker 3: Parton one hundred percent approval rating.
Speaker 2: Facts facts, big facts, Yes, obviously. In her career spanning
Speaker 2: over fifty years, Dolly has simply defined country music. She's
Speaker 2: acted in films, she's become an enduring American icon. But
Speaker 2: for decades, she's also dedicated herself to making sure our
Speaker 2: youth have books to read.
Speaker 3: I know that Dolly sort of saved us from COVID,
Speaker 3: but this is what I love Dolly for. She founded
Speaker 3: the Dolly Parton Imagination Library back in nineteen ninety five
Speaker 3: in honor of her father, Robert Lee Parton, who never
Speaker 3: learned to read her write. So for almost twenty years,
Speaker 3: the Imagination Library has sent one book per month for
Speaker 3: free to kids under the age of five. And it
Speaker 3: started out just for kids in Severe County, Tennessee, where
Speaker 3: Dolly was born, but it has grown so much bigger
Speaker 3: over the years.
Speaker 2: It's grown into this whole youth literacy movement. And this
Speaker 2: week Kentucky and Missouri announced that they're participating in the
Speaker 2: Imagination Library too, So the AP reported that almost half
Speaker 2: of preschool age kids in Kentucky are enrolled, So that
Speaker 2: is so exciting, and that is a lot of books.
Speaker 2: Now with Tennessee, Kentucky, and Missouri on board, there are
Speaker 2: twenty one states involved, plus the Library also has a
Speaker 2: presence in Canada, Australia, the UK, and Ireland.
Speaker 3: Besties, you know how much we love books on this show,
Speaker 3: and one of our favorite things about hosting The bright
Speaker 3: Side is getting to have deep conversations with Reese's book
Speaker 3: club authors every single month, like the interview that we
Speaker 3: did this week with Rainbow Rawl about her book Slow Downce.
Speaker 3: And we know how crucial it is to foster that
Speaker 3: love of reading at an early age. To this day,
Speaker 3: some of the best memories of my childhood are with
Speaker 3: my dad and we would walk about eight or ten
Speaker 3: blocks to the public library where I grew up in Glencoe,
Speaker 3: and I would sit on his lap and we would
Speaker 3: read book after book after book. And that's where I
Speaker 3: fell in love with Shelle Silverstein and Rold dol And
Speaker 3: I learned that magic was possible through these books. As
Speaker 3: a kid, I loved the Shelle Silverstein books too. And
Speaker 3: you know, now as a parent, this is something that
Speaker 3: is top of mind for me. And all of the
Speaker 3: research says that if you want to raise young readers,
Speaker 3: you need to model it for them. So I try
Speaker 3: to read in front of my kids. I take my
Speaker 3: kids to the library. We make reading an activity. We
Speaker 3: do it in fun places, we do it intense, we
Speaker 3: do it in the car, we do it at a park.
Speaker 3: It's all about eventizing it and making it, making it
Speaker 3: a part of our lives as a family. Okay, someone
Speaker 3: you know I love a quote. Can I give you
Speaker 3: one of my favorite quotes?
Speaker 1: Hit me.
Speaker 4: It's from my mother. She says, lessons are caught, not caught.
Speaker 1: So it's a good one.
Speaker 3: I totally agree with you. Reading is something that is caught.
Speaker 3: So Dollie, thank you for the work that you do.
Speaker 3: All right, Simon and you ready to pop off?
Speaker 2: Yes, let's get it started, okay. Joining us today is
Speaker 2: Diosa fem A, writer, producer and co founder of Lokata Radio,
Speaker 2: the production company behind the critically acclaimed podcast by the
Speaker 2: same name, Diosa.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the bright Side.
Speaker 5: Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited
Speaker 5: to be here. Thank you, Diosa. Your last name? Is
Speaker 5: this your real last name? Because you can't even write
Speaker 5: how good that is? No, that is my stage name.
Speaker 5: That's my stage name. That started as an Instagram handle
Speaker 5: and then it just became a part like people just
Speaker 5: started calling me that and it's like, okay, well here
Speaker 5: we go, let's do it.
Speaker 4: This is not my host name, Diosa.
Speaker 3: Loka Tora Radio is all about archiving the present and
Speaker 3: shifting culture forward. So for any of our besties who
Speaker 3: are meeting you for the first time, will you tell
Speaker 3: us a little bit about your mission.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So, Loka Dora Radio was founded in twenty sixteen and
Speaker 5: we so we've been podcasting since then. And the mission
Speaker 5: behind is archiving our stories. And so when we were
Speaker 5: starting out, we saw all this talent in Los Angeles,
Speaker 5: local talent from writers to DJs, producers, musicians, and we're
Speaker 5: really saying that they weren't necessarily getting the shine by
Speaker 5: a mainstream media outlet. We're even a mainstream podcast and
Speaker 5: at the time, the Latina led podcasts were far and few,
Speaker 5: and so we felt that was our entry way into
Speaker 5: archiving the stories of at the time, our friends and
Speaker 5: being able to capture them in this moment in time
Speaker 5: before they popped off, before they reached the next level,
Speaker 5: and really being able to document this journey right when
Speaker 5: it's starting and then now looking eight years later where
Speaker 5: they are is so so beautiful and so much fun
Speaker 5: to do.
Speaker 2: Okay, Deosa, So your production company just recently launched another
Speaker 2: podcast called Senora sex Ed that intends to break the
Speaker 2: stigma and silence around sex and sexuality and LATINX communities.
Speaker 2: I think this is so cool because I was raised
Speaker 2: in a mixed race household.
Speaker 1: My mom is black, my dad is white. I think
Speaker 1: that for a.
Speaker 2: Lot of minorities there can be a bit of conservatism
Speaker 2: or like hesitancy around these topics like my mom never
Speaker 2: really talked about sex ed with me. Because of that,
Speaker 2: I didn't really feel like I had a place for it.
Speaker 2: So why did you feel like it was important for
Speaker 2: you to create a platform for these sorts of conversations.
Speaker 2: Did you have a similar experience growing up?
Speaker 5: I did have a similar experience growing up, and I
Speaker 5: was raised Catholic.
Speaker 4: I went to Catholic school K through twelve.
Speaker 5: That really informed the type of education I was receiving.
Speaker 5: It was very abstinence first, and my parents, you know,
Speaker 5: I think, just repeated the information that they received growing up,
Speaker 5: which was to actually not talk about it at all. Yes,
Speaker 5: and then when I came out in high school, it
Speaker 5: was even less of a conversation like, oh, we don't
Speaker 5: even know what to tell you, so we're not even
Speaker 5: going to talk about this at all. And I think
Speaker 5: when looking at the larger community of Latinas, either daily
Speaker 5: every day the women that we interact with, or looking
Speaker 5: at it from a pulp culture lens, there is this
Speaker 5: tendency for Latinas to be hyper sexualized. And we were
Speaker 5: faced with this conundrum where wait, we're being hyper sexualized.
Speaker 5: We actually don't have any information about our bodies about
Speaker 5: sex and sexuality. What is the conflict there and how
Speaker 5: do we unpack that and how do we break that
Speaker 5: stigma and that shame where we can actually have these
Speaker 5: conversations with each other. And so the point of the
Speaker 5: show is to have these intergenerational, multi generational conversations, and
Speaker 5: so we're really prioritizing women that are in their forties
Speaker 5: fifties plus that have been so far, we've seen the
Speaker 5: ones that are breaking that cycle.
Speaker 4: They're the cycle breakers.
Speaker 5: Where there's the ones that decided I'm doing things differently
Speaker 5: with my daughter and we're going to start talking about
Speaker 5: this and age appropriate ways starting at ten years old,
Speaker 5: twelve years old and so on.
Speaker 2: Jil So, that is so cool and I love that
Speaker 2: there's an intergenerational element to it as well.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 3: So on your podcast, you and your co host Mala
Speaker 3: Munos breakdown pop culture and current events. So I want
Speaker 3: to know what's on your radar right now.
Speaker 5: I think for me, what's on my radar right now
Speaker 5: is there was an announcement that there's a remain of
Speaker 5: La Bamba coming out, and I don't know how I
Speaker 5: feel about it.
Speaker 4: I'm going to be honest.
Speaker 5: On the one hand, it's exciting because I think, you know,
Speaker 5: it's another Latino story and it's going to be produced
Speaker 5: by a Latino production company, and so just the possibility
Speaker 5: of what that could look like is really exciting. But
Speaker 5: on the other hand, like the original La Bamba that
Speaker 5: was written and directed by Luis Valdez is so good.
Speaker 5: It's so good, it's almost like remaking Selena, right, which
Speaker 5: was done and it was a mixed reception, And so
Speaker 5: it's one of those things where it's so good, does
Speaker 5: it actually need to be remade? And should there may
Speaker 5: be be a priority or focus on actually getting new
Speaker 5: things made by Latino talent, by a Latino production company.
Speaker 3: Luis Valdez said that he's not sure why they're remaking it, right, Yeah, I.
Speaker 5: Mean I get the sense that he's not involved in
Speaker 5: the remake, right, And so I think it's probably like
Speaker 5: this story was already told and probably all of its possibilities,
Speaker 5: because I don't think we've actually said it. But La
Speaker 5: Bamba was or is a biopic of the singer Richie Valence,
Speaker 5: who tragically died in a plane crash, and so there's
Speaker 5: not really much more to say about his life and
Speaker 5: that story at least to my knowledge right, And I
Speaker 5: think that Luis Faldez is feeling the same way. We
Speaker 5: captured this rising star in this moment and then he
Speaker 5: tragically passed away and that story was told, and so
Speaker 5: I think because his life was cut short, it's like,
Speaker 5: what else are you going to say about it?
Speaker 2: To me, it seems like there are so many other
Speaker 2: Latin artists that you could make a movie about that
Speaker 2: deserve their own biopic.
Speaker 1: So I mean, why not start?
Speaker 2: There Are there any Latin artists that you feel like
Speaker 2: deserve their own movie?
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, that's a great question. I think there's
Speaker 5: so many. I don't know if there's been a biopic
Speaker 5: on like Maria Felix, an actress during the Mexican Golden
Speaker 5: Native Cinema. There's also I'm thinking of La Lupe, who
Speaker 5: was a Cuban singer.
Speaker 3: Isabella Allende comes to my mind. There was a HBO
Speaker 3: show made about her life. Yeah, I agree, there's so
Speaker 3: many stories to tell and I think you.
Speaker 4: Can probably see this as well. But I do think
Speaker 4: that there's a trend.
Speaker 5: In Hollywood right now to do remakes, to do sequels,
Speaker 5: and some have been asked for and some it's like
Speaker 5: nobody's asking for this, so why are we making this?
Speaker 5: So I think that that's part of the trend of
Speaker 5: what we're seeing right now.
Speaker 2: All right, ladies, let's get into some other popping off topics,
Speaker 2: shall we? So good it we know this weekend is
Speaker 2: Labor Day, aka the unofficial end of summer, which means
Speaker 2: it's time for a bit of an in memoriam for
Speaker 2: the moments that defined the summer of twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: These are the trends that kept us going when the
Speaker 2: sun was out, the guns were out, and the days
Speaker 2: were long, and we loved them. But now, dearly beloved,
Speaker 2: the sun is setting and it may be time to
Speaker 2: put a few of these to rest. So first up,
Speaker 2: it's the term that defined the summer, brat.
Speaker 1: Are we ready to see it?
Speaker 2: Go?
Speaker 1: I don't know what do you think, Tiosa.
Speaker 5: There are terms that really define a season, right, It's like,
Speaker 5: go more girls fall brat summer and so I don't
Speaker 5: know if I see that actually transitioning into like fall winter.
Speaker 5: But we also saw like a hot girl, a hot
Speaker 5: girl summer, and it became like hot girl fall, so
Speaker 5: maybe it'll continue on.
Speaker 1: I am here for the Brat. I don't really want
Speaker 1: it to go away.
Speaker 3: I love this green color that Simone and I fight
Speaker 3: about because I call it shartrus and she thinks it's.
Speaker 1: Not a shark truce. It's not a shark truth.
Speaker 3: I love what it means. I'm into it. I don't
Speaker 3: want it to go anywhere. I like it way better
Speaker 3: than demure.
Speaker 2: So for me, I feel like Brat is synonymous with summer.
Speaker 2: It's hard to bring the Brat attitude into fall because
Speaker 2: the responsibilities, come back schedule, come back.
Speaker 1: Back to school, all that stuff.
Speaker 2: I feel like Bratt is a mindset, and so I
Speaker 2: think it's like a summer thing, Like I'd love to
Speaker 2: see Brat come back next summer, but Fall. Trying to
Speaker 2: think what would like the fall mindset be, you know
Speaker 2: what it is like. I feel like fall fall, feral fall.
Speaker 2: I think Fall is like a bit more cozy, you know,
Speaker 2: it's like coughing season, You're like cozying up. Bratt is
Speaker 2: like all about being everywhere, all at once.
Speaker 1: That's my take on this.
Speaker 2: How about okay, now this one, maybe we can all
Speaker 2: agree on this. I feel like the viral Brat dance
Speaker 2: is like worn out at the dance that everyone was
Speaker 2: doing to Charlie Xax's apple.
Speaker 3: Yeah it's gone. I'm thirty three, so I can't do
Speaker 3: that dance. And I don't have children. If you have children,
Speaker 3: you're left Diosa.
Speaker 2: Danielle and I were on a retreat with some of
Speaker 2: our colleagues at Hello Sunshine, and some of the either
Speaker 2: younger millennials or older gen Z folks taught us how
Speaker 2: to do it. And that's the only way that I
Speaker 2: learned how to do it. And I was very impressed
Speaker 2: that I actually got the choreography. But I'm not great
Speaker 2: with TikTok dances.
Speaker 3: There actually need to be like professional TikTok dance coaches.
Speaker 2: Totally okay. Next, let's talk fashion. How do we feel
Speaker 2: about the shoes of the summer? Ballet slippers and sambas.
Speaker 2: Are those staying with us in the fall?
Speaker 5: I think it was a micro trend. On the one hand,
Speaker 5: I'm like, I don't know Adidas sambas. Those have been
Speaker 5: like coming in and out for decades for a very
Speaker 5: long time. I think they'll always be here in some way.
Speaker 5: I'm actually I don't wear belly flats and I didn't
Speaker 5: buy a pair, and I don't think I ever will.
Speaker 4: But I'm thinking about the kid in heel.
Speaker 5: Actually, I think that that's comeback also, and I think
Speaker 5: that's another one that we'll like.
Speaker 4: It's we're going to see it cycle through forever.
Speaker 2: I think prep is going to be huge this fall.
Speaker 2: I think the preppy aesthetic is going to be major.
Speaker 2: The starchy white collars, the long sleeve shirts with the
Speaker 2: collar and the big fat stripes on them. I think
Speaker 2: you're gonna see people wearing chunky loafers, the high heeled
Speaker 2: loafers paired with cute little pleated skirts, plaid skirts. So
Speaker 2: I think that if you can adapt the ballet slippers
Speaker 2: and the sambas into those outfits, I think you can
Speaker 2: still wear them and it's more sustainable. There's definitely a
Speaker 2: way to continue this trend. Interval someone I could not
Speaker 2: agree with you more.
Speaker 3: I was with some gen z gels over the weekend,
Speaker 3: and this is how I know what the trends will be.
Speaker 3: If you want to see like what you're gonna be wearing,
Speaker 3: look at the younger generation, yes, and they were all
Speaker 3: rocking the pleated skirts with the sambas, and they had
Speaker 3: like little high socks black or white it was super cute.
Speaker 1: I'm into it.
Speaker 3: I think like the hit Me Baby One More Time,
Speaker 3: era is coming back, and I'm not mad about that.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I told you, Daniel that I had my college girlfriend
Speaker 2: Elise in town and something that we love to do
Speaker 2: is go thrifting, and so we went to a vintage
Speaker 2: store and we found these chunky Steve Madden loafers. Do
Speaker 2: you guys remember like the black high heel loafer like
Speaker 2: that had me in a choke hold for all of
Speaker 2: my adolescents.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's all I wanted.
Speaker 3: I would beg my mom for those me too, and
Speaker 3: my mom would not let me wear heels, and it
Speaker 3: was one of our biggest battles when I was like thirteen.
Speaker 2: I'm still bitter about it to this day. But now
Speaker 2: I have my own money, mom, and I can go
Speaker 2: buy my own high heeled loafers.
Speaker 1: But I love those. It's hilarious.
Speaker 3: We have to hit pause on popping off with diosa fem,
Speaker 3: but we'll be right back, and we're back with diosa Fem.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's pivot to a discussion about music. Sabrina Carpenter's
Speaker 2: Espresso was the song of the summer she's got her
Speaker 2: whole album out, Short and Sweet. Do we think that
Speaker 2: she's still going to be the soundtrack to the Fall?
Speaker 2: What are you guys going to be playing on repeat?
Speaker 5: So I've been listening to chapel Rone also summer, and
Speaker 5: I do think that I will be listening to her
Speaker 5: in the fall. But to be honest, I listen to
Speaker 5: a lot of music in Spanish, so I listened to
Speaker 5: like a lot of Raton. I listen to a lot
Speaker 5: of pop in Spanish, and so I'm not always up
Speaker 5: to date with like the pop albums in English. But
Speaker 5: I have been listening to Sabrina Carpenter's new album and
Speaker 5: I hope it carries into fall.
Speaker 1: These last few years have been huge for Latin pop.
Speaker 4: Yeah, who are you?
Speaker 1: Who are you excited about right now?
Speaker 5: Oh? There's so many She's not poppy, but I've been
Speaker 5: listening to Girl Ultra. She does indie sleeves. I listen
Speaker 5: to a lot of different things in Spanish, and I
Speaker 5: don't think she's considered pop either. But Becky G, I mean,
Speaker 5: you know, local girl who's made it big.
Speaker 4: I love Becky G and I love what she's doing.
Speaker 3: Also, I am obsessed with Sabrina Carpenter. I think she
Speaker 3: is the pop star that I have been missing in
Speaker 3: my life because she was.
Speaker 4: Made for this her.
Speaker 3: I have not heard music like this since Katie Perry
Speaker 3: came out. Like when we think pop music, it's those
Speaker 3: four chords over and over again in a different order,
Speaker 3: and that's what makes it a hit. So Brina Carpenter
Speaker 3: kills it in a way that still feels like new
Speaker 3: and trendy and gen z.
Speaker 4: She is the espresso to my decaf. I am so
Speaker 4: here for her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love her too.
Speaker 2: I just read that she and Barry Kyogan maybe just
Speaker 2: broke up. Did you guys see that too?
Speaker 3: They are like on and off apparently all the time.
Speaker 3: But here's the thing, I don't know who he is.
Speaker 3: I don't care about him. I'm like, she is going
Speaker 3: to be such a huge start. I used to interview
Speaker 3: her when she was on Nickelodeon when she was doing
Speaker 3: the Boy Meets World remake.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the show with Daniel Fischel and all the Boy
Speaker 1: Meets World.
Speaker 4: Kids and Ben Savage.
Speaker 3: They did the remake and I interviewed her every single
Speaker 3: year when she was growing up, and she always wanted
Speaker 3: to be a pop star. This was always her and
Speaker 3: so to see it kind of be like a ten
Speaker 3: year in the making type thing. I mean, Meryl Streep
Speaker 3: has that famous quote that like it takes ten years
Speaker 3: to be an overnight success. Yeah, and I really see
Speaker 3: that with Sabrina Carpenter, because I think people feel like
Speaker 3: she popped onto the scene as this huge star this summer,
Speaker 3: but this has been her dream for years.
Speaker 1: I love that, love that story.
Speaker 4: I love that. I feel like the pop stars are
Speaker 4: back and I'm here for it.
Speaker 3: Another thing on my mind is Naomi Osaka, serving both
Speaker 3: lit and fig okay, literally and figuratively. She's at the
Speaker 3: US Open this week and she made a fashion statement,
Speaker 3: which I love because she's a fashion girly the way
Speaker 3: Serena is a fashion girly. And she appeared on the
Speaker 3: court in a green dress with a bow and layers
Speaker 3: of ruffles, and it might have been the boldest outfit
Speaker 3: we've seen on the tennis court since Serena. Okay, she
Speaker 3: dominated and then said that the outphit played a role
Speaker 3: in helping her feel like herself again. She took fifteen
Speaker 3: months away from tennis for the birth of her daughter,
Speaker 3: and she said that putting on that alpha. It was
Speaker 3: almost like a super suit, and we all know supersuit
Speaker 3: is from the Incredibles.
Speaker 1: You know, that's my super suit.
Speaker 3: So she said it provided her strength, a sense of self,
Speaker 3: extra motivation on the court. Simon, you are the only
Speaker 3: person who has given birth on this podcast. I want
Speaker 3: to know how you felt after, Like, does this make
Speaker 3: sense to you?
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 2: You have to find the things that make you feel
Speaker 2: like yourself. So for me, that was going on hot
Speaker 2: girl walks with my best friend and eating cake.
Speaker 1: I did that in the fourth trimester, which is like
Speaker 1: right after you have the baby. That made me.
Speaker 2: Feel like myself again, or going for hikes or I'm
Speaker 2: trying to think if there were any clothes that I wore.
Speaker 1: That is a thing there. It takes a long time.
Speaker 2: I always say that it takes about two years until
Speaker 2: you really feel like yourself again. And during that period
Speaker 2: you're probably not fitting into your clothes. You probably have
Speaker 2: to buy a lot of new and that process can
Speaker 2: be a bit disorienting and you're kind of rediscovering who
Speaker 2: you are and reconnecting with self. I love this for her,
Speaker 2: and I love that she took such a bold swing
Speaker 2: with this outfit.
Speaker 1: I think it's.
Speaker 2: Really cool to see female athletes these days expressing themselves
Speaker 2: through fashion. I mean it's not like it's anything new.
Speaker 2: We saw a flow Joe do it on the track.
Speaker 2: But when you look at the WNBA tunnel fits like
Speaker 2: people like Skyler, Diggan Smith, Kelsey Plum, Asia Wilson, like,
Speaker 2: it's so cool to see them stunting and like getting
Speaker 2: the same recognition for their fashion that the male.
Speaker 1: Athletes always get.
Speaker 2: I look at someone like Alona mar as Well and
Speaker 2: the way that she puts on red lipstick as a
Speaker 2: rugby player in the Olympics. It makes her feel feminine,
Speaker 2: makes her feel like herself. I love this for her
Speaker 2: and I think it was just such an iconic moment too.
Speaker 2: It made me think about Zendaia's character and challengers Tashi,
Speaker 2: who is for sure a fashionisa on the court. My
Speaker 2: one question about this Naomio Soka fit is was it
Speaker 2: obstructing her game at all?
Speaker 1: That bow was quite oversized.
Speaker 4: And it was beautiful. I love the outfit.
Speaker 5: I actually just started playing tennis a couple months ago,
Speaker 5: so I sent it to my tennis group.
Speaker 4: Chat and was like, are we recreating this or what?
Speaker 5: And one of the girls said yeah, I want to
Speaker 5: sew a big bow onto my skirt, honestly, And so
Speaker 5: I think, I don't know. I think tennis outfits are
Speaker 5: really in right now, even if you don't play tennis.
Speaker 5: So I definitely see this look probably being recreated. And
Speaker 5: she said that it was her best game yet, right,
Speaker 5: and so I think that the outfit was probably not
Speaker 5: obstructing her, and I assume she probably practiced in it beforehand,
Speaker 5: and so the bow was probably made so that it
Speaker 5: could move with her. And I loved all the ruffles,
Speaker 5: I loved the detail of the bow in her headphones.
Speaker 4: I just thought it was so good.
Speaker 5: And I agree with what you said, Simone, like I
Speaker 5: love seeing the way women can take these historically like
Speaker 5: predominantly masculine spaces like sports like athletics and really show
Speaker 5: their personality. We saw that at the Olympics, and we're
Speaker 5: seeing that now. We've seen it many many years with
Speaker 5: many athletes, like you said, and so I love to
Speaker 5: just see that personality shine through and that style, and
Speaker 5: I think it goes to show it's a good reminder
Speaker 5: that as women, we can really put on this armor.
Speaker 5: Fashion is not just this frivolous thing that we can
Speaker 5: partake in and it's not just trendy for a lot
Speaker 5: of us. It can be a way to really represent
Speaker 5: who we are and where we come from. And I
Speaker 5: think that that's what Naomi did, and I.
Speaker 2: Think also these athletes, by them leaning into their sense
Speaker 2: of self expression, they're reminding us that we don't have
Speaker 2: to just be one thing. That if we're an athlete,
Speaker 2: that doesn't mean that we only have to present as
Speaker 2: strong and muscular, Like you can be strong, and you
Speaker 2: can also bring a sense of femininity to the if
Speaker 2: that makes you feel like you.
Speaker 3: And we're finally allowing that as a culture because I
Speaker 3: think for a long time, even at work, I mean,
Speaker 3: Sheryl Sandberg's book lean In has an entire chapter about
Speaker 3: the dress code in corporate environments and how like female
Speaker 3: lawyers are expected to wear skirt suits or suits because
Speaker 3: the default is men wearing a suit, and so we're
Speaker 3: always expected to sort of fall into what they're doing.
Speaker 3: And I think these women are setting a new default.
Speaker 2: You Know, what I always think about whenever I fly
Speaker 2: is the fact that it seems to me like flight
Speaker 2: attendants don't really have a say in how they dress.
Speaker 2: On most airlines, it seems like they're still dressing like
Speaker 2: nineteen sixties pan Am flight attendants, And if that's how
Speaker 2: they want to dress, my thing is like, let the
Speaker 2: women choose if that's how they want to dress and
Speaker 2: that's how they feel most confident, like they can do
Speaker 2: their job great. However, I do want if they actually
Speaker 2: have a choice, Like do they really want to wear
Speaker 2: heels as they're running through the airport with a carry on?
Speaker 2: Like the idea of wearing heels in the airport is
Speaker 2: absolutely psychotic to me, Like I could never.
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally, I completely agree, And men are allowed to
Speaker 3: wear pants, they should have the option.
Speaker 1: I don't totally. Okay, we have another fashion hot take.
Speaker 2: So in a video for GQ published US this week,
Speaker 2: Channing Tatum, who is doing the press rounds for his
Speaker 2: new movie Blink Twice, admitted to buying new T shirts
Speaker 2: for an entire year to avoid doing laundry. My king,
Speaker 2: I fully support you in this. I feel so seen
Speaker 2: right now because I absolutely hate doing laundry. So he
Speaker 2: called this moment the quote year of the Fresh White Tea,
Speaker 2: and he said that this was actually a while ago,
Speaker 2: back in nineteen ninety nine or the year two thousand
Speaker 2: and he says that it was a beautiful year, probably
Speaker 2: because he wasn't tied to his washing machine and dryer.
Speaker 2: Let's all be real here, have we ever bought new
Speaker 2: clothes to avoid doing laundry?
Speaker 1: I certainly have.
Speaker 3: I've only done this traveling, like if I'm missing sometimes,
Speaker 3: like I forgot to pack all my underwear, and it's
Speaker 3: like you need underwear, you know, so you gotta go
Speaker 3: and figure that out. But at home, laundry is my
Speaker 3: absolute favorite chore.
Speaker 1: I love doing it.
Speaker 3: I don't have a washer dryer in my apartment right now,
Speaker 3: which makes me sad for many reasons.
Speaker 2: Wait, Danielle, the reason why you love doing laundry is
Speaker 2: because you don't have a washer and dryer in your apartment.
Speaker 3: No, No, I've had one before, Like when I lived
Speaker 3: in Chicago and could afford a better apartment, I had
Speaker 3: a washer dryer, and I would. I love laundry. It
Speaker 3: smells so good. I love folding it. I find it therapeutic. Okay,
Speaker 3: what I don't like is making the bed.
Speaker 1: Because I was.
Speaker 2: Gonna say, if you're having someone else fold your laundry,
Speaker 2: then yeah, I would love that too.
Speaker 4: That sun's great.
Speaker 3: No, No, like I have it like down in my basement,
Speaker 3: but it kind of freaks me out because everybody in
Speaker 3: the building uses it and it's like, ok, my clothes
Speaker 3: never come out quite the way I'd like them too.
Speaker 4: But when I first moved.
Speaker 3: To La I lived in a garage and I didn't
Speaker 3: have any option, and so I would go to a
Speaker 3: laundromat and I would call my mom and cry because
Speaker 3: I truly never felt more sorry for myself than I
Speaker 3: was when I was sitting at a laundromat. You just
Speaker 3: start to think about all the things going wrong in
Speaker 3: your life. It's really a tough place for me.
Speaker 2: I remember the first apartment that we had a washer
Speaker 2: and dryer in, and it was major.
Speaker 4: It was like, it's such a big deal.
Speaker 1: It's huge. You feel like I finally, I finally made
Speaker 1: it okay, and.
Speaker 3: An ice maker, Like I don't have an ice maker
Speaker 3: and I have to like make those little cubes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, diosa, are you a Danielle or a Simone in
Speaker 2: this scenario?
Speaker 1: Are you do you like doing laundry?
Speaker 4: I'm in the middle.
Speaker 5: I think the channing has enough resources to send out
Speaker 5: to get his laundry washed and folded, so that's a
Speaker 5: little interesting to.
Speaker 4: Me early on when he was magic micing up.
Speaker 5: I do feel like it's probably more cost effective to
Speaker 5: just wash your shirts, right, But I think that I'm
Speaker 5: in the middle of both of you, So I don't
Speaker 5: necessarily disdain doing the laundry.
Speaker 4: I don't like putting it away. It takes me too long.
Speaker 5: Like I will do my laundry and I will fold it,
Speaker 5: but by the time I put it away, like days
Speaker 5: have gone by. Yeah, And my husband gets mad at
Speaker 5: me and he's like, you need to put your clothes away.
Speaker 5: And so he has started to do my laundry because
Speaker 5: he just can't stand the way I do it, and
Speaker 5: so he has started to wash my clothes.
Speaker 2: My husband does our laundry too. We have different chores
Speaker 2: that we each do. He's laundry inclined, like he's actually
Speaker 2: like good at it, so he does that.
Speaker 1: I do some other stuff. I think it's all about
Speaker 1: finding your strengths in the relationship.
Speaker 3: Have you guys heard of Brittany Mahomes, Patrick mahomes wife.
Speaker 2: Yes, chiefs player, his wife got it, got sports.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So Brittany Mahomes has made a lot of recently.
Speaker 3: But what I liked that she said the other day
Speaker 3: is that she gets way more stressed than her husband,
Speaker 3: Patrick mahomes on these game days.
Speaker 1: So he is one of the top quarterbacks in the NFL.
Speaker 3: He plays with Travis Kelce, Taylor Swift's boyfriend, and during
Speaker 3: a recent podcast episode, she was like, Patrick does not
Speaker 3: get nervous or stressed at all because it's what he
Speaker 3: likes to do, but she gets super stressed and nervous
Speaker 3: for him. And I thought that was really sweet. Do you, Simone,
Speaker 3: do you get stressed? You're making a face at me.
Speaker 3: Do you get stressed when Michael is doing important stuff
Speaker 3: at work?
Speaker 1: No? This is not sweet.
Speaker 2: This is codependency, and this is like, this is bad
Speaker 2: for her mental health. Why would you want to take
Speaker 2: on someone else's stress? This is so unsustainable to me.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, maybe I'm a little codependent honestly, because I
Speaker 3: totally understand this. I feel like, if we're a unit,
Speaker 3: your stress is my stress.
Speaker 1: Kind of I don't know about that.
Speaker 2: I mean I'm trying to think, like, Okay, so my
Speaker 2: husband is a screenwriter and he premiered a film that
Speaker 2: he wrote at sun Dance like five years ago. That
Speaker 2: was a really big deal, and we all went to
Speaker 2: the premiere, and so there was a lot of, you know,
Speaker 2: emotions around that. I can't say that I was nervous.
Speaker 2: I was like, I was excited for him. I think
Speaker 2: there's certainly anticipation, but I can't imagine taking on boards
Speaker 2: like my partner's work stress.
Speaker 1: That would be too much for me. Diosa, what do
Speaker 1: you think? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I agree.
Speaker 5: I think there's that empathy that you have for your
Speaker 5: partner or your significant other where you're like, I hope
Speaker 5: that everything works out for you, and I'm sending you
Speaker 5: the best vibes, but I'm not going to take it
Speaker 5: on as my own stress because I have my own
Speaker 5: things to worry about. So I think it's that fine
Speaker 5: line of you have the empathy, you want to be supportive,
Speaker 5: you send them the best vibes, but you're not going
Speaker 5: to be breaking a sweat over it either.
Speaker 4: I think it also depends what it is.
Speaker 3: Laughing so hard because I've literally broke in a sweat.
Speaker 3: Like my last boyfriend, if he had an event that
Speaker 3: he was putting on and was like I need a
Speaker 3: little help, I would literally fly there and be on
Speaker 3: my hands and knees scrubbing floors, doing whatever I needed
Speaker 3: to do. Like I'm like, I had this thing in
Speaker 3: my family that I really loved. My brother's name is Blake.
Speaker 3: If Blake was applying for college and he needed a
Speaker 3: little extra support, it was like, we're team Blake right now,
Speaker 3: and everybody's got a pitch in the way that they
Speaker 3: can to help support this family member.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: Okay, wait, wait, okay, so this is beautiful. I'm all
Speaker 2: in support of this. I'm so here for dropping everything
Speaker 2: helping your spouse when they need it, like being that emotional,
Speaker 2: tangible support for them. But I gotta draw the line
Speaker 2: at I can't take on your stress. I can't take
Speaker 2: on your nerves. And also the counter to this is
Speaker 2: how does her taking on his stress help him, because
Speaker 2: then he's going to be thinking about how nervous she
Speaker 2: is for him while he's playing. I think the best
Speaker 2: thing that you can do is help your spouse or
Speaker 2: partner try to imagine the best possible outcome both of
Speaker 2: you get on board beforehand envisioning this is going to
Speaker 2: go so well, you're going to crush it, hyping them
Speaker 2: up as opposed to absorbing the stress.
Speaker 4: I think that's a great point.
Speaker 3: And where is the stress coming from Like if he
Speaker 3: loses and comes home, is he in a bad mood?
Speaker 3: Is that why she's stressed during the game. I guess
Speaker 3: we have questions that's a red.
Speaker 5: Flag, like is he taking out We don't know these people, right,
Speaker 5: but I think in general, like if your partner's coming
Speaker 5: home and if they had a bad day and they're
Speaker 5: like being mean to you, like that's obviously not okay.
Speaker 5: But they're coming home and like they're going to be
Speaker 5: a little different, They're going to be withdrawn. Let them
Speaker 5: process their own feelings, like that's okay, But are they
Speaker 5: taking it out on you?
Speaker 3: That's obviously a way different conversation. Yeah, dio, So it
Speaker 3: sounds like you went to a lot of therapy. Amen
Speaker 3: to you.
Speaker 4: I did I have.
Speaker 1: Yes, I think I'm a little enmeshed with people.
Speaker 2: I'm a little worried about this, dynam mc danielle. Do
Speaker 2: we think that Taylor gets nervous for Travis before one
Speaker 2: of his little games?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Chris, I love that you call it
Speaker 1: a little game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I one of his little ball games. We have
Speaker 2: seen that footage of her and Blake Lively and the
Speaker 2: girl gang in the VIP box at the games and
Speaker 2: they're like, oh my god, like so dramatic, you know,
Speaker 2: And I mean, I guess you're just kind of getting
Speaker 2: caught up in the spirit of sports, which is great. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I guess that's kind of like a different thing than
Speaker 2: like being like super stressed. It's about being invested in
Speaker 2: each other at the end of the day, Well said
Speaker 2: Sea Money.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, Diosa, thank you so much for popping
Speaker 3: off with us today.
Speaker 5: Thank you so much for having me. This was so
Speaker 5: much fun. We talked about everything.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Deosa Yosa Fem is a writer, producer, storyteller and co
Speaker 2: founder of Look at the Radio, the production company behind
Speaker 2: the critically acclaimed podcast by the same name.
Speaker 3: We need to take a quick break, but we'll be
Speaker 3: right back. Stay with us.
Speaker 1: We're back, all right, Danielle.
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