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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversation. I am your host, Rashan McDonald.

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Speaker 1: It's time to stop reading other people's success stories and

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Speaker 1: do on Money Making Conversations provide the consumer and business

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Speaker 1: His name is Kurt Franklin. He's a six time Grammy

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Speaker 1: to discuss something I'm excited to talking about his new podcast,

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Speaker 1: Good Words with Kurt Franklin almost like good News, a

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Speaker 1: new podcast series that work with people from every cross

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Speaker 1: this daty in February ninth, That's the date. Everybody where.

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Speaker 1: He's in conjunction with Sony Music Entertainment dropping Good Words

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Speaker 1: with Kurt Franklin on the podcast. Please work with the

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Speaker 1: money making conversation. He's my good friend. He's been in

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Speaker 1: my life man since ninety four. I'm from Houston, Texas.

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Speaker 1: He's up in that Dallas, Dallas area, Texas. Boy. Please

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Speaker 1: welcome Kurt Franklin. How you dork, Kurt, How you're doing man? Well,

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Speaker 1: welcome to my new studio, Curry. I'm trying to do it, man,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to step up man in my game. Man.

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Speaker 1: You know, man, you look good, brother, look good. You

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Speaker 1: Thank you. How you been doing? Man? You know we're

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Speaker 1: coming out of going into one. We're talking about new podcast.

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Speaker 1: But let's let's step back a little bit and talk

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Speaker 1: about because it sent me through a lot of changes,

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Speaker 1: tested my faith, tested my patience, sent me through some

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Speaker 1: emotional physical change. That game weight, loss, weight, and anxiety

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Speaker 1: your family and the people who follow you and seek

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Speaker 1: your guidance. Well, once again, man, so honored to see

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Speaker 1: able to give information that that that a lot of

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Speaker 1: I'm part of your congregation. I'm part of the Kirk

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Speaker 1: because the way you approach your teachings and that's how

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Speaker 1: your music motivates me. Do you get it a lot

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Speaker 1: people and telling them your story and then sharing other stories,

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Speaker 1: kind of like when I'm doing with money making conversations.

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Speaker 1: I'm allowing the story, but in this lane, And that's

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Speaker 1: really important, isn't it exactly? And thank you again and

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Speaker 1: I'm just extremely appreciative to be able to be part

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Speaker 1: and darkest days that they may go through. And and

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Speaker 1: so many different conversations that could happen at the same

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Speaker 1: be a lot more foolishness that I can have fun

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Speaker 1: with and enjoyed the podcasts, And so uh, it just

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Speaker 1: gives you a liberty that you don't have on stage.

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Speaker 1: It gives you a liberty then you don't have in

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Speaker 1: people's faith a lot of times it's still like a

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Speaker 1: is God? God don't work? I don't see in it's life. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's very difficult to be able to tap into what

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Speaker 1: a non one one situation that he continues to be

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Speaker 1: postured in when it comes to your life. And so

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Speaker 1: hopefully it does. Even good words will that you hear

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Speaker 1: from other people that you don't see in church all

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Speaker 1: the time, you don't see in church platforms give you

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Speaker 1: a lens of where they are, the good, the bad,

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Speaker 1: in Wow. So we last year because of the pandemic,

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Speaker 1: you couldn't do your all do a festival. How are

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Speaker 1: this year? I know there's Texas that's where you're based

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Speaker 1: produce that you book it's all out of your production company,

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Speaker 1: which I love to talk about. We talked about that

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Speaker 1: last time. Becoming a true entrepreneur? Uh, controlling your destiny?

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Speaker 1: How does it look for oh man? You know we

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Speaker 1: we we will see where God leaves. I'm I had

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Speaker 1: while I'm visiting, is that you can make the plans,

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Speaker 1: but God at times last, you know, And so you

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Speaker 1: have to make sure that you are surrendering your dreams

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Speaker 1: and making sure that each Because here's the thing that

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Speaker 1: I really believe about my faith. And again, I'm not

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Speaker 1: only sure to try to proselytize. Yeah, I'm here be

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Speaker 1: because I am a product of grace, of God's grace

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Speaker 1: and mercy. That's the only reason why I get to

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Speaker 1: be part of great platforms like this, you know. And

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Speaker 1: because I'm cute, even though I am cute, that is

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Speaker 1: not what God? Uh what that that that that that

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Speaker 1: we have to understand man, that what we believe should

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Speaker 1: be transferable, That it shouldn't be something that just stays

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Speaker 1: with us and dies with us. That it should be

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Speaker 1: something that can be part of the fragment of people's

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Speaker 1: daily existence. And we haven't done that well as as

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Speaker 1: people of faith. We've only made Sunday morning and a

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Speaker 1: Sunday suit the epitome of what believing is. And so

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Speaker 1: I'm hoping that with everything that I'm able to do,

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Speaker 1: whatever God calls me for this year is that I

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Speaker 1: want to make sure that my dreams and our distractions,

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Speaker 1: and so that the only way to know how to

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Speaker 1: do that is to take my dreams and filter them

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Speaker 1: through my faith. We know the interesting I'm a little

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Speaker 1: shift here. Melanie Holt was on my show recently and

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Speaker 1: uh she hosts a show called Behind every Man and

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Speaker 1: you on the show and it was and you know,

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Speaker 1: I get I get access to everything now. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm moving up in the food chain, not Kirk. You

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Speaker 1: know they get early for everybody everything. Now you're on

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Speaker 1: my wife and how important she is to me, how

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Speaker 1: I was important to do a show like that because

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Speaker 1: important to do that show with your wife. Well, it

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Speaker 1: was just important for me for people to get a chance,

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Speaker 1: like I'm always looking for moments to showcase and celebrate

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Speaker 1: uh not at all times got a chance to see Tanny,

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Speaker 1: when there's a platform that comes My way is because

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Speaker 1: I want people to understand that I am what I

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Speaker 1: am because of her. It is God using her as

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Speaker 1: the conduit that that that that all his blessings slow.

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Speaker 1: Because if I was a single man, I probably would

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Speaker 1: times do and so a lot of times when you

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Speaker 1: covering that God wants to give us because He's not

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Speaker 1: going to give you the keys to something that you're

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Speaker 1: going to drive into a wall. Wow. Good works for

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Speaker 1: the good words with with Kurt Franklin. That's right, just

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Speaker 1: on podcast platforms including Apple, Spotify, and Stitcher. Uh, Kurt,

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Speaker 1: thank you for coming on the show. Man. You know,

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Speaker 1: I always appreciate you man taking the time to talk

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Speaker 1: to Rashan McDonald man because uh, I know you're busy. Man.

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to just trying to thank you. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: But you more that man, You inspire me and that

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Speaker 1: and that's why whatever you come on this I gotta

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Speaker 1: remind you. Man. You know, I know, I know people

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Speaker 1: look at me as being very successful, but behind that

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Speaker 1: success and like I said, in a certain situation. There

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Speaker 1: uh and your friend, and I know that uh your music.

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Speaker 1: May you may not be talking to me as an individual,

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Speaker 1: but brother, you've saved me a many a day. Man.

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Speaker 1: You've saved me when I'm on the road and I

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Speaker 1: didn't know where to go. You've saved me when I've

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Speaker 1: been down and thought I was the only person in

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Speaker 1: this world. You've saved me when I've been successful. You've

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Speaker 1: saved me. And a lot of people says, successful, how

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Speaker 1: can you save you? Because sometimes you need direction when

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Speaker 1: you're successful, because you don't have nowhere to turn. And

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Speaker 1: so that's the layers of life that you've given me.

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Speaker 1: Since you've been into my life, been in my life,

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Speaker 1: and I've been there. We've done TV shows together, we've

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Speaker 1: done concerts together, we've done radio shows together. So I

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Speaker 1: know the relationship we have is beyond just music. And

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Speaker 1: thank you again for coming on money Making conversation Man,

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Speaker 1: and again Franklin all major podcast platforms including a podcast,

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Speaker 1: I see you soon, Brother, bro love you. If you

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