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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome in to a on was the

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Speaker 1: edition at Texans All Access from the Hunday at Texans

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Speaker 1: Radio Studio. I'm your host, John Harris, Football Antal sideline reporter.

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Speaker 1: As we get ready for Cleveland for the third straight

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Speaker 1: season twenty twenty one, we went up there at a

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Speaker 1: fourteen to seven league trot Taylor got hurt and everything

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Speaker 1: went to you know what after that last year, defense

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Speaker 1: played outstanding, but the offense kept giving the ball back

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Speaker 1: to the Browns special team stuff. Yeah, it was not

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Speaker 1: a good day either one of the last two years.

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Speaker 1: But hopefully year number three, three in a row will

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Speaker 1: be the same, Well, turnout the same as nine years ago.

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Speaker 1: As it appears that case Keenum will face Joe Flacco

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Speaker 1: at NRG Stadium again nine years after the fact. Now

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Speaker 1: I'd like to know who had Case keenan versus Joe

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Speaker 1: Flacco at the beginning of the year. You could have

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Speaker 1: won a lot of money in Vegas with those lottery numbers.

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Speaker 1: But that's what's gonna be apparently bit more. Not that

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Speaker 1: there's more we can add to the CJ. Stroud concussion situation.

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Speaker 1: Just CJA's not ready yet. He has not progressed in

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Speaker 1: the protocol, and it appears that case Keenum will be

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Speaker 1: that guy. We'll see. We know how I went last week.

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Speaker 1: Everybody thought it was gonna be Davis and it turned

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Speaker 1: out to be a case.

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Speaker 2: I mean, who knows.

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Speaker 1: But we've got all kinds of things to hit tonight.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have the slant with Bobby Trees aka Robert Woods.

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Speaker 1: We are in the lab as usual. Kevin Coogler, who

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Speaker 1: called the game last week Browns and Bears, will join

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Speaker 1: Mark as he goes men behind the Mikes. Kevin is

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Speaker 1: our preseason TV play by playman, does a great job.

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Speaker 1: He's doing basketball football now, he's doing all kinds of stuff.

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Speaker 1: And then Max Loebe from the Believed Network will do

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Speaker 1: a little behind enemy sidelines with our guy Drew Doherty.

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Speaker 1: That'll be a little bit later, but we kick off

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Speaker 1: the show as we always do with the Executi Vice

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Speaker 1: President Football Ops and general Manager Nick Cassario had a

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Speaker 1: blast talking to Ohio's own Nick Cassario. Here's Mark, me

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Speaker 1: and Nick.

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Speaker 3: Let's go. Nick.

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Speaker 4: Great to have you with us. Happy holidays, Happy holiday.

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Speaker 4: It's good to be here fellas well. We're very happy

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Speaker 4: this week. Nick that was a tremendous victory. We know

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Speaker 4: we have a lot to talk about with Cleveland on

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Speaker 4: Christmas Eve at NRG Stadium, but let's reminisce, shall we

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Speaker 4: about that victory, which was all hands on deck and

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Speaker 4: getting the job done.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no question. Really credit to the players and the coaches.

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Speaker 5: Dimiko talked about it really the beginning of the week.

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Speaker 5: This was gonna be about everybody. We're gonna need everybody.

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Speaker 5: Not really sure where it was gonna come from or

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Speaker 5: who was gonna be, but if you're available, get yourself

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Speaker 5: ready to play. And everybody had the right mindset and

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Speaker 5: went in there against a good, good football team who

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Speaker 5: has been playing well. We made enough plays in our

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Speaker 5: end say, did a number of good things in the game.

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Speaker 5: It gave us the opportunity there in overtime or fourth

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Speaker 5: quarter overtime count of the end of the game. I mean,

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Speaker 5: it's interesting we sit here every week, it seems like,

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Speaker 5: but we've been in nine to one score games and

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Speaker 5: then four walkoffs, so the two that we've won to

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Speaker 5: that loss. So it just goes to show you the

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Speaker 5: margin of errors so slim in this league. But the

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Speaker 5: players came through a lot of credit to them, and

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Speaker 5: the coaches did a great job, especially on the heels

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Speaker 5: of what happened a week before in the Jets. But

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Speaker 5: this is a really good example of if you can't

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Speaker 5: let effect one week effect the next week, and certainly

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Speaker 5: amblematic of that.

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Speaker 1: No question, Nick, what was the key you thought for

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Speaker 1: Case leading the offense to get them in and look,

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Speaker 1: they didn't set records, put up nineteen points going through overtime.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't like the greatest offensive performance of all time,

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Speaker 1: but it was maybe the right performance.

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Speaker 2: What did you see from Case? What kind of got

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Efficient ran the operation really Other than the interception,

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Speaker 5: for the most part, there was a number of positive plays.

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Speaker 5: One of the things that kind of goes unnoticed, pecially

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Speaker 5: were a number of players where he was able to

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Speaker 5: those are some things that going notice that not everybody

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Speaker 4: And you had one of your best running performances of

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean had on a hat. Offensive line did

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Speaker 5: right decision. But Motor's been very productive and consistent really

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Speaker 5: from the beginning of the year. Motors a good runner,

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Speaker 5: we were one to three in a red zone, but

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Speaker 5: that one I would say touchdown made a difference. And

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Speaker 5: then conversely, defensively, we did a great job I would

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Speaker 5: say in some of the situational areas that enabled us

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Speaker 1: At the end, Nick, there were a number of players out.

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Speaker 1: I know you know this, but Dalton Schultz came back.

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Speaker 1: Having Dalton back in the offense, he has four catches.

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Speaker 1: He obviously has the one over McCrary, but it just

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Speaker 1: feels like there's something with Dalton being on the field,

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Speaker 1: Like you know, he's going to be in the right spot,

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Speaker 1: He's going to be where you need him.

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Speaker 2: He can be that third down completion.

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Speaker 1: There's a big third down completion to him on the

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Speaker 1: We're your thoughts about Dalton being back and how much

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Speaker 1: that helped.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Dalton's a smart instinct the football players good hands,

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Speaker 5: has a good sense of space, and he's been over

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Speaker 5: going to see, you know, pretty good tight end. This week.

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Speaker 5: We'll talk about Djoku in a little bit. But I

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Speaker 5: mean Dalton's experience and just his sense and savvy of

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Speaker 5: how to play football certainly adds value to the offense.

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Speaker 4: Nick, I love stories like Desmond King, like Derek Bartonett,

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Speaker 4: guys who weren't with you, They come in, they play

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Speaker 4: huge roles in a terrific defensive performance like that. What

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Speaker 4: these guys just fit in to what you're doing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think in DES's case, certainly, his

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Speaker 5: an opportunity to bring him back. But I mean, he

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Speaker 5: And then Derek. Derek's been a good player in this

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Speaker 5: over the last however, many weeks wasn't getting as many

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Speaker 5: even though he's only twenty seven, twenty eight years old,

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Speaker 5: advantage of opportunity. I mean, he's not Will Anderson, but

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Speaker 5: of good snaps. And we're going to play eight nine players,

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Speaker 5: so I mean, really, the whole defensive line. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Speaking of defensive line, waiver claim on Monday Tuesday whatever

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Speaker 3: Nick?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, an interesting story. Undrafted player kind of found his

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Speaker 5: steadily improving player for Tennessee. I would say from twenty

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Speaker 5: probably at a better run player than a pass player.

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Speaker 5: But you know, as an opportunity for us to add

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Speaker 4: Well, And it just goes to show you in relation

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Speaker 4: to what we were just talking about, it's such a

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Speaker 4: week to week thing. A last week's team looked nothing

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Speaker 4: almost right.

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Speaker 5: Very much so, Mark, and we've talked about this on

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Speaker 5: the show. This season is really four quarters, so he

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Speaker 5: your team kind of evolves, it's going to change. You know,

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Speaker 5: some personnel changes or adjustments. So I think maintaining that

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Speaker 5: we are, and we're going through the same process here

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Speaker 5: this week in preparation for Cleveland.

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Speaker 4: Along those lines, though, do you remember a time where

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Speaker 4: we've seen so many reserve quarterbacks playing key roles in

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Speaker 4: a playoff chase down the stretch?

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Speaker 5: It's probably been a while, Mark, I mean, I can't

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Speaker 5: a sheer volume standpoint. I mean, even last night watching

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Speaker 5: But I mean, we'll talk about Cleveland, but what they've

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Speaker 5: done is really been incredible, and what Joe's done is

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Speaker 1: I mean, Sunday could be Joe Flaco versus case Keenum

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Speaker 5: I would agree with that assessment, John. I think sometimes

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Speaker 4: Well, Nick, it's such a week to week thing, like

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Speaker 5: There are penalties for that.

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Speaker 1: And let's get to that Cleveland Browns. We're one to

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Speaker 5: good coach. So really good coaching staff. I mean Bill

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Speaker 5: And I would say from a core kicking game, just personnel,

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Speaker 4: Interesting, Nick, you grew up in that part of the country,

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Speaker 4: That franchise, Jim Brown. People forget about how great Auto

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Speaker 1: Moving forward, Nick, as you were talking about, you know,

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Speaker 5: So Joe's always been able to throw the football. I'd

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Speaker 5: it April. So that's kind of where we are. So

435
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Speaker 5: a lot of this is going back and just there's

436
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Speaker 5: any players you haven't seen or watched, getting caught up

437
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Speaker 5: on those players, and then we'll have the All Star

438
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Speaker 5: Game kind of circuit here coming up here in January,

439
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Speaker 5: so we'll spend some time there and then February will

440
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Speaker 5: come back and kind of circle back, and then we'll

441
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Speaker 5: be able to go through pretty definitively the underclassmen who's

442
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Speaker 5: declared where are we on that player? So it's a

443
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Speaker 5: little bit of a moving target, but we do have

444
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Speaker 5: a population of names, no question about it. So then

445
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Speaker 5: it's a matter of okay, is the over the top

446
00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,080
Speaker 5: and the west see the players that are in the east.

447
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Speaker 5: So we want to try to get as many people

448
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Speaker 5: at the top to see as many players as possible.

449
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Speaker 5: So then we have those discussions and dialogue. You're getting

450
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Speaker 5: input from everybody. So definitely a moving target, but you know,

451
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Speaker 5: we have a pretty good foundation in place, our guys.

452
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Speaker 5: The group has done a phenomenal job to this point,

453
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Speaker 5: So try to stay on track here and just get information.

454
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Speaker 5: A lot of this is information gathering, and just try

455
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Speaker 5: to make sure we stay ahead of it here over

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Speaker 5: the next few months.

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Speaker 1: Nick along those lines, and this may be just is

458
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Speaker 1: your opinion, how is the transfer portal? And nil changing

459
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Speaker 1: the draft in a sense that maybe the there are

460
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Speaker 1: some guys like Dylan Gabriel like, Okay, he's going to

461
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Speaker 1: the draft. Well, no, he transferred to organ And you're like, okay,

462
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Speaker 1: well that's one last quarterback in the draft, are you.

463
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Speaker 1: And maybe it's too early to tell, but it just

464
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Speaker 1: feels like to me, just kind of watching outside of

465
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Speaker 1: looking in that there are more guys transferring than maybe declaring.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, John I would say that whole process, it's not

467
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Speaker 5: to say significantly altered, but it's definitely made an impact.

468
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Speaker 5: It's interesting the league right now, they're getting evaluations of

469
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Speaker 5: potential players that may declare underclassmen, but some of those

470
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Speaker 5: players are also in the portal, so they're in the portal.

471
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Speaker 5: They're trying to get well, where am I projected? Okay,

472
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Speaker 5: well the league is telling me this, all right, well,

473
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Speaker 5: maybe the better option is to go back to school.

474
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Speaker 5: So you didn't really have to think about that before.

475
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Speaker 5: And you've seen the number of underclassmen have declared decline

476
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Speaker 5: over the last two to three years. I think it

477
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Speaker 5: peaked one forty one fifty or whatever it was, say,

478
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Speaker 5: last year was around one hundred ish. But I was

479
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Speaker 5: reading something the other day, there's twelve hundred players in

480
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Speaker 5: the portal right now, so it's essentially college free agency,

481
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Speaker 5: which it puts a lot of tax and stress on

482
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Speaker 5: the schools on the players, but it's okay, play one.

483
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Speaker 5: I mean, the kid from the Ivy League Player of

484
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Speaker 5: the Year, the pen kid defensive tackle played four years,

485
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Speaker 5: probably was going to end up, you know, on a roster,

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Speaker 5: be with a team. Well he transfers to Florida, so

487
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Speaker 5: now he has an opportunity to play up. So I

488
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Speaker 5: think you're seeing a little bit of that graduate see

489
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Speaker 5: if I can play up versus well, I'm going to

490
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Speaker 5: go in the draft, and maybe I improve my stock

491
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Speaker 5: if I play up a little bit. So there's a

492
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Speaker 5: lot of factors. All we can is kind of like

493
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Speaker 5: Mark talked about, all we can control is what we

494
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Speaker 5: can control, so we can't sort of make it up.

495
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Speaker 5: So we're prepared for as much as possible. But then

496
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Speaker 5: once we know, okay, here's the pool of players that

497
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Speaker 5: we're dealing with, then we can allocate our time and

498
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Speaker 5: resources and then try to identify the players that we

499
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Speaker 5: think are the best fits for us.

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Speaker 4: Money aside. And if it couldn't be the NFL and

501
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Speaker 4: you had to coach, would it be D three, D two,

502
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Speaker 4: D one with all this portal stuff, and I imagine

503
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Speaker 4: D three is no pick nick either with all the

504
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Speaker 4: recruiting that goes on at that level.

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Speaker 5: It's a great question. I mean, I would speak from

506
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Speaker 5: my experience, have kind of done a little bit of everything,

507
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Speaker 5: so I haven't played a Division three coaches, Division two

508
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,919
Speaker 5: head coaching experience in the MAC and having a good

509
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 5: fortune of work in the NFL. They're all different, but

510
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Speaker 5: by the same token, it's still football. So I think

511
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Speaker 5: you just want to try to find the best situation

512
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Speaker 5: that works for you individually, just try to be around

513
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Speaker 5: as many good people as possible, and just to go

514
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Speaker 5: out there and just try to do your job in

515
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Speaker 5: the best of your ability. So that would be my

516
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Speaker 5: answer on that one. All right.

517
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Speaker 4: Finally, I don't know if you noticed, but it's Christmas week, Nick,

518
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Speaker 4: and just you know what your nickname is at home,

519
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Speaker 4: but can you share some maybe from your youth holiday

520
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Speaker 4: traditions that stand out, or a special gift or something

521
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Speaker 4: like that just pops out big Christmas memory from the

522
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Speaker 4: Caserio house.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, absolutely, so, I mean I grew up it

524
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 5: was just weird, a small household, myself, my brother, my

525
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Speaker 5: mom and dad. So Christmas Eve, we would always go

526
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Speaker 5: to my nanny and papas my mom's mom and dad,

527
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Speaker 5: So that was kind of our tradition. So we'd go

528
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Speaker 5: Christmas Eve, we do our Christmas exchange there, and it

529
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Speaker 5: was really just our family. I mean, we have a

530
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Speaker 5: very close knit, very tight family, very small kind of group,

531
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Speaker 5: very intimate though. And then Christmas Day we would do

532
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Speaker 5: it at our house and we kind of have Christmas Morning.

533
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Speaker 5: We'd open presents and then we'd end up going to church.

534
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Speaker 5: So what we've tried to do with our family is

535
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Speaker 5: try to carry the same traditions. I mean, it's just

536
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Speaker 5: in Texas. We just have our family. It's my wife

537
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Speaker 5: and our girls and our dog. So we try to

538
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Speaker 5: create a similar situation as we had growing up. The

539
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,479
Speaker 5: hardest part about the holidays is just you when you're

540
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Speaker 5: away from your family. But you know, we have a

541
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Speaker 5: great time. We have a great day. Our girls understand,

542
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 5: you know, the importance of Christmas, not just opening gifts.

543
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Speaker 5: But they go to bed early, we do some things

544
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Speaker 5: the night before and then they come down and hopefully

545
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Speaker 5: they see a bunch of presents down by the tree.

546
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Speaker 5: But it's a great holiday, and you know, We're definitely

547
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Speaker 5: looking forward to next week.

548
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Speaker 4: All right, Well, Merry Christmas, Good luck Nick, Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Thanks all right, awesome stuff from Nick Asari. We always

550
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Speaker 1: have a blast talking with Nick, and of course with

551
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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns on the other side. It's always kind

552
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: of weird when you see your childhood favorite team Ian.

553
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Speaker 1: Before I got to Houston, I was a big Packers fans.

554
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Speaker 1: Whenever we go up to Lambeau, where I was about

555
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Speaker 1: forty five. I grew up about forty five minutes north

556
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Speaker 1: of that, or you know, any trips up there always

557
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Speaker 1: you know, I think it's that pang of like remembrance

558
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 1: of those things. But Houston Texan through and through. Also,

559
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Speaker 1: it's Houston Texan, even though he's only been here one years.

560
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Speaker 1: Robert Woods, he sat down with Shelby Coppage for the

561
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Speaker 1: Slant that's next on Texans All Access. It's time for

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Speaker 1: the Slant right here in Texans All Access. I'm your host,

563
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Speaker 1: John Harris, footballanal sideline reporter, and it's Bobby Tree's time. Yeah,

564
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Speaker 1: Robert Woods joining the Slant, and this week our guest

565
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Speaker 1: host is Shelby Coppage. You've seen her do Texans three sixty.

566
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Speaker 1: She jumps in and sits across from the great Robert Woods.

567
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Speaker 7: Here we go, Welcome to the Slant. I'm Shelby Coppage

568
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Speaker 7: here with Texans wide receiver Robert Woods.

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Speaker 3: Robert, thanks for your time, thanks for having me on.

570
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Speaker 7: You were just telling me in high school you played

571
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Speaker 7: defense and almost in college.

572
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I played defensive bag played safety. Was a recruit

573
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Speaker 8: as an athlete out of high school. I thought I

574
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Speaker 8: was gonna play a little bit defensive back. I remember

575
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Speaker 8: one week at USC I started practicing nickelback and did

576
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Speaker 8: not end up getting called in the game, but was

577
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Speaker 8: preparing to play both ways.

578
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Speaker 3: So a little bit of defense.

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Speaker 7: In me, you know, I love it well. Your first

580
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Speaker 7: year with the Texans. You've a beautiful family. By the way,

581
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Speaker 7: what do you and your family do for fun in Houston?

582
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Speaker 3: A little bit of everything? I think a little bit

583
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Speaker 3: of everything.

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Speaker 8: Just yesterday we drove down to College Station actually and

585
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Speaker 8: went to like a Christmas gathering, things like Santa's Workshop

586
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Speaker 8: or Wonderland, but really just driving all around Houston experiencing food, experiences,

587
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Speaker 8: family things, museums, Zoo has everything here to offer over

588
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Speaker 8: a lot.

589
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Speaker 7: So being a Trojan, you're fine hanging on the ag

590
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Speaker 7: He's just not the Longhornes.

591
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Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, I uh yeah, being in Texas, you know,

592
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Speaker 8: seeing some Longhorn fans. It's still still bitter to me.

593
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Speaker 8: I'd even play in that game, but it's just trauma. Yeah,

594
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Speaker 8: it traumatize every Trojan from generation generation.

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Speaker 7: Take me in the locker room. It's pre game. What

596
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 7: are the Texans players listening to?

597
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Speaker 8: Uh, Sundays are like really great in our locker room.

598
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Speaker 8: It starts off with gospel music to prep the day.

599
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Speaker 8: Everybody's getting there their blessing, getting their God and their

600
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Speaker 8: their mental prep and focused. And then it switches to

601
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Speaker 8: NBA Young Boy and uh, just just some amped up music.

602
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Speaker 3: Guys getting ready fired up.

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Speaker 8: When you want to be able to field the energy

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Speaker 8: from your teammates in the locker room, and I think

605
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Speaker 8: you're able to do that. But it's it's really cool,

606
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 8: unique locker room because I feel like it's Sunday and

607
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Speaker 8: I think our team respects that, and it's I don't know,

608
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Speaker 8: it's kind of UNIQE.

609
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Speaker 3: It's kind of cool.

610
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Speaker 7: Sunday's over, the game's over, practice is done. How do

611
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 7: you decompress at home with your family?

612
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 8: Oh, I'm a big lounger after the game. I want

613
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Speaker 8: to either get a good meal and or sit on

614
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Speaker 8: the couch. Whether it's Sunday night football movie, but I'm

615
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 8: definitely a couch potato after the game.

616
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Speaker 3: I just want to want to lounge.

617
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Speaker 7: Do you have a teammate that has a you, weird

618
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 7: superstitions or an interesting pregame routine?

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Speaker 3: No other than CJ. Stroude is unique warm up.

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Speaker 8: I know a lot of people have seen him throw

621
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Speaker 8: a baseball, shoot, a basketball, swing a golf club, have

622
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Speaker 8: a tennis racket out there. I mean, he's a quarterback

623
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Speaker 8: who warms up his arm in many different ways. Does

624
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Speaker 8: it every practice, does it every game? I would say

625
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Speaker 8: that's probably the unique warm up superstition.

626
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Speaker 3: What if you call it? But it allows them to get.

627
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Speaker 7: Ready for the game after a touchdown the stats game,

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Speaker 7: I like when you said you need CJ. Stroud to

629
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Speaker 7: have confidence in you and you want that as an

630
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Speaker 7: NFL wide receiver. How do you build confidence with your quarterback?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, just repetition. I think throughout the whole year and offseason.

632
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 8: It's really just building that rapport with your quarterback throwing constantly,

633
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 8: catching and warm ups just whenever there's time available, being

634
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 8: around your quarterback. If you see a route that someone

635
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 8: else is running, you're able to stand next to your quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Hey, did you see that? I would do this or

637
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 3: I would do that?

638
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 8: Like being able to steal reps we say, and being

639
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 8: able to communicate and just be on the same page

640
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 8: as your quarterback. I think me and CJ have been

641
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 8: able to do that since we got here and just

642
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 8: really really starting to show in the games.

643
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Speaker 7: There's a kid, he's watching you on TV. He's a

644
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 7: wide receiver in middle school. What advice do you give

645
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 7: how it takes to be a good wide receiver.

646
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 8: Effort and technique. I think playing defense helps a little bit.

647
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 8: Just have an attitude not being soft. I know a

648
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 8: lot of people think in the receiver position is not

649
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 8: being physical, but I feel like the way I play

650
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Speaker 8: as physical, not afraid of contact, but being able to

651
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 8: be urgent, to be able to get to blocks, be

652
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 8: able to get defenders off of you. But then cone

653
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 8: drills as much as you can in the backyard and

654
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 8: any space you could get standing on the cones, working

655
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 8: your feet, and they translates to the game and you

656
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 8: can see all our receivers are great rot runners.

657
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 7: Who's the defender in the NFL where you just want

658
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 7: to avoid all costs getting hit by him?

659
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 3: Uh? Nobody.

660
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 8: I feel like, yeah, nobody. There's we go out there

661
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 8: and we play fearless. It's nobody who phases me being

662
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 8: out there, being able to just like I said, play confident,

663
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 8: play fast and when you have that mindset, make them

664
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 8: have to catch you, make them bring you down.

665
00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 3: Able to play fearless and play fast.

666
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 7: What's your one of your favorite things about living in Houston.

667
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 3: What's the best part about Houston?

668
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 4: Anything you like?

669
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Speaker 3: You're small, similar similar to La. It has a little bit.

670
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Speaker 8: It doesn't have the beach for sure, but it has

671
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 8: a little bit of everything else.

672
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Speaker 3: You get.

673
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Speaker 8: You get your sports, you get your entertainment, get your

674
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 8: night life, you get your food. But you don't get

675
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 8: as bad as traffic. And I think that's a little

676
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 8: plus about Houston. Being able to do multiple things in

677
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 8: a day and get around it is the biggest plus,

678
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 8: especially compared to La. You pick one thing and that's

679
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 8: all you're doing for the day.

680
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 7: And there's humidity here, there's plenty of that.

681
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 3: It's pretty bad.

682
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 8: It was a training camp and summers it was pretty intense,

683
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 8: But I mean, you're actually getting a little bit of

684
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 8: cool breeze now, which is nice.

685
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 3: You actually get a little bit of winter, and it's

686
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 3: nice to have the.

687
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Speaker 7: Change up I'm talking about living in LA. You have

688
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 7: an extensive career, part of not being winning a Super Bowl.

689
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 7: What experience do you bring from winning the highest stage

690
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 7: to the Texans locker room as a leader.

691
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 8: Knowing what it takes, knowing that it takes everybody on

692
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 8: the team, coaches Shane and staff, practice squad guys, offense, defense,

693
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 8: It takes everybody just being a part of the success

694
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 8: of the team and just keep getting better and keep

695
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 8: improving throughout the year.

696
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 7: I was asked to be a martyr and ask if

697
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 7: you liked the nickname Bobby Woods Bobby Trees and asked

698
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 7: if you like the nickname Bobby Trees.

699
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, Bobby Trees has a go been having a sense

700
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 8: since Buffalo has been sticking around, and uh.

701
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:41,719
Speaker 3: It's lasted.

702
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 7: Love it, Thank you, Robert, appreciate it, Thank you it Sunday,

703
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 7: thank you.

704
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Shelby didn't say my name, but yeah, I'm the

705
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: one Robert Woods a k a. Bobby Trees. I think

706
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: it's one of the great nicknames of all time. I

707
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: love it, absolutely love it. Appreciate Shelby for stopping by,

708
00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: and of course our w two Robert Woods. Hopefully he's

709
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: gonna a big game against the Cleveland Browns coming up. Next,

710
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna go in the lab. Drew Doherty and I

711
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: we get, you know, a little crazy on in the lab.

712
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: I think we played this one straight. You hear that

713
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: next right here in Texans All Access. Oh yeah, we've

714
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: reached that time of the show where it's time to

715
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: get freaky, get nerdy. We're gonna dork out, whatever you

716
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: want to call it. Drew Doerty and I going in

717
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: the lab.

718
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 9: Let's rock you and I are going to discuss these things.

719
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 9: We're gonna have a what if I told you, I

720
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 9: told you this is very happy?

721
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 10: What if I told you We're gonna have a cream

722
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 10: of the cropper for the game.

723
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 9: On Sunday, So Christmas morning, we're gonna wake up and

724
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 9: say this guy was a cream of the cropper for

725
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 9: the Texans because of the crop. First things first, how

726
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 9: you doing man good?

727
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: Much better than last week? At this time, I kind

728
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: of wondering what happened in New Jersey as opposed to

729
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: this week going man, what a what a really wonderful

730
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: team win led by case Keenum nine years after the fact,

731
00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: almost nine years to the day, drew of stepping in

732
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: out of a deer blind and leading the Texas to

733
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: a victory. Now, the numbers weren't tremendous against the Ravens

734
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: back in twenty fourteen, but I we got of a

735
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: deer blind playing that Sunday, leading them to win was huge.

736
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: And I felt like in that game in twenty fourteen,

737
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: he kind of managed the game. I felt like this

738
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: game against the Titans, he made winning plays that we

739
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: absolutely needed. It was incredible to watch, incredible to watch.

740
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Speaker 9: He's now won three in a row as the Houston

741
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 9: Texans quarterback. It's got to be a record of some

742
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 9: sort because those three wins were wins two and three

743
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 9: have a gap of what nine ten years almost yeah year,

744
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 9: and it's remarkable. The last two games of the fourteen season,

745
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 9: which was his third season in the NFL, but only

746
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 9: second season of play because he spent twenty twelve in

747
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 9: its entirety on the practice squad, spent the first six

748
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 9: to seven games of thirteen on the practice squad, and

749
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 9: then Gary Kubiak made the call midway through what was

750
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 9: a just disastrous thirteen to say, hey, Case, you're starting,

751
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 9: And he started seven straight games, played pretty well, but

752
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 9: it's there's just so much working against that team anyway,

753
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 9: another time to the place. So much fun, so gratifying

754
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 9: to see Case do what he did. I know you're

755
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 9: like me. I know I speak for you. When the

756
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 9: Texans signed him this spring, we were all excited because

757
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 9: this is something we'd kind of been clamoring for for years. Hey,

758
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 9: why don't the tell let's let's bring Kate. He'd be

759
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 9: a great backup and he would have been, but the

760
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 9: timing just wasn't right. But to see him go out

761
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 9: and do what he did was just so heartwarming. And

762
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 9: then to see everything he said afterwards more heartwarming and unsurprising.

763
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 9: Knowing who this guy is, it was so much fun

764
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 9: and so cool to see in that regard.

765
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think the one thing that resonated, especially

766
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: on that day against that team was when he talked

767
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: about what the city of Houston means to him and

768
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: how proud he is that he wore the universe see

769
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: Houston Jersey for what you know, six years He's worn

770
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,439
Speaker 1: to Houston, Texans Jersey. Now this is the twelve thirty

771
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 1: and forty. It's the fourth year, I guess, thirty year,

772
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: Like you said.

773
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Speaker 10: On third different time he's done it.

774
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, third different time that he's done it. You know,

775
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: he's just been an incredible ambassador. You know, we we

776
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,439
Speaker 1: It's funny, you know. There was there was so much

777
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: talking in conjecture about the quarterback position during the week,

778
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: with CJ play, CG doesn't play, What's Dave's gonna do,

779
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: What's Dave's gonna do, Dave's gonna step in the start

780
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: or all that. There were very few people that really

781
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: gave consideration to the fact that Case could start that game.

782
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: And I guess I can maybe say it now. We

783
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: we'd kind of figured it out by Wednesday, and so

784
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: we were just waiting to see if somebody was going

785
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: to find out and figure it out. And it wasn't

786
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: until Aaron Wilson broke that news, I think on midnight

787
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: Friday night or whatever the case might be, that Case

788
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: was actually going to start. And it was at that

789
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: point where everybody started scrambling back like oh no, no, no, well,

790
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: this is what I meant about you know, so it

791
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: was kind of interesting to watch from that perspective, but

792
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 1: you know, the guys believed h And I feel like

793
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: there was a moment in that game drew where where

794
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: it could have it was on the verge of getting dicey.

795
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: You know, Case had thrown the pick six and it

796
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: made it. It was thirteen and nothing, and it was not

797
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: It was not Case's fault. It was a miscommunication running back.

798
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: I think it was Darry thought he should, you know,

799
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: continue on as opposed to settling up. It was zone,

800
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: it was not man, and so it was just a miscommunication.

801
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: And so Case through to where he thought Darry was

802
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: gonna be. Darry kept going to where he thought he

803
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: should have gone, and Elijah Molden took the ball, went

804
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,240
Speaker 1: to the end zone. Thirteen to nothing. On that following drive.

805
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: After that, Texans did nothing the first two plays. It

806
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: was third and twelve and I just remember thinking, boy,

807
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: this this inn could get out of hand and I'm

808
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: bracing for it. And then Case threws a seed to

809
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: Noah Brown for twenty two yards.

810
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 10: And he did that all times that day. He did

811
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 10: to in dire situations.

812
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: Yes, and that to me was maybe the most dire

813
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 1: because I actually had started thinking, boy, but he hit

814
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 1: that and I don't remember, I don't I don't think

815
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: we scored on that drive. But it was just enough

816
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: to say, hey, I'm not going away. That interception isn't

817
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: going to scare me away. And the more I thought

818
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: about it later on, it was kind of foolish to

819
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: even think that case was going to back, Like what's

820
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: he got to lose? You know, he hasn't started in

821
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: a couple of years. He's thirty five years old. He's

822
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 1: going to keep slinging. But what that did to me

823
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 1: was show the defense, Hey, we're still in this fight, man,

824
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: stay in this fight with us. Then they went down

825
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: and kicked the field goal before the half and just

826
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: got points up on the board. And then the crucial series,

827
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: the interception by Nelson followed up by the third down

828
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,760
Speaker 1: thrown adult Schultz in a field goal eventually made thirteen

829
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: to six. And that's I think when things change on

830
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: the sidelines for good, like not only are we in

831
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 1: this thing, we're going to win this thing that and

832
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: it just kind of I could kind of see a

833
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: sea change on the sidelines of you know, things that

834
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: just got you know, one of the things that stood.

835
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,720
Speaker 1: I was watching the TV copy. It just so happened

836
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,479
Speaker 1: because he was standing there where Dalton made the catch.

837
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,479
Speaker 1: Dalt makes the catch on a third down and there's

838
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: Kurt Heinisch. I see him in the background on the sidelines.

839
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: You're just like pumping his fists like yes, And it

840
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: was just kind of this moment of Okay, we're going

841
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: to do this today. We're down some guys, but we

842
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: can go win this football game, and we're better than

843
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 1: these guys. And I think that was the one thing

844
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: I took out of there, was with all the guys

845
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: that we had down, and yeah, they had Jeffrey Simmons out,

846
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: I get that, but that was it. Other than that,

847
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: they had a pretty healthy team and we stuck it

848
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: to him. Yeah, and really we're the better team, especially

849
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: on that day. So hopefully in a couple of weeks

850
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: that's still the case. And no pun attended, and we

851
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: remained that. But we got bigger work with the Cleveland

852
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: Browns for sure.

853
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 9: You know you brought up the Hey, we've kind of

854
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 9: figured it out. It was going to be keen of starting.

855
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 9: There were a few pretty pretty major tells throughout the week,

856
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 9: starting as early as Monday. I'm not gonna get them

857
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 9: all the way here, but it's gonna be fun to

858
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 9: discuss that later down the line. All right, let's let's

859
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 9: put a bow on this win over the Titans with

860
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 9: a little what if I told you? And this is

861
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 9: a fun exercise because I think when I when I

862
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 9: do these after wins, it shows you how tough it is.

863
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:22,919
Speaker 10: To win a game.

864
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 9: Yeah, and how you've got to overcome a lot sometimes

865
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 9: to win a game. So you already knew before this

866
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 9: thing started. There was no CJ. Stroud, there was no Nico,

867
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 9: no Tank Dell. There was no Will Anderson, there was

868
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 9: no Blake Cashman, there was no starting right tackle in

869
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 9: George Fann. I mean, you got a lot going against

870
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 9: you even before this thing started. But John, what if

871
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 9: I told you?

872
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 3: What if I told you?

873
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 9: Eleven thirty on Sunday morning? Hey, listen, Texans are gonna

874
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 9: be down thirteen to nothing with one second to go

875
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 9: in the first half. Case is gonna throw a pick

876
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 9: six man. Texans are only gonna go four of fifteen

877
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,959
Speaker 9: on third down. Yep, John, Texans are gonna commit eight

878
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 9: penalties on the road for about seventy yards what if

879
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 9: I told you those things, know, and then all those

880
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 9: other guys are out, It's gonna be a long day, right.

881
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no doubt. I mean, you know the flip

882
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 1: side of that is okay, and this is what you know,

883
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: what if I told you this is the counter Okay?

884
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: All those things happened. So how did they get well?

885
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: Number one, Devin Singletary badass again. Motor was incredible. I

886
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 1: really I really wanted that touchdown run to stick because

887
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: it's such a fantastic representation of what Motor is and

888
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: how he runs, and it was just awesome.

889
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 10: He had like eighty yards.

890
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 9: He had like eighty yard yards from scrimmage on those

891
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 9: first two plays of the final drive.

892
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 10: If that sticks, you know.

893
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: You know the play that will get forgotten. Duna is

894
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: interesting because I was doing Telestrator, I did telestraighter, I

895
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 1: did mine on the throw from case to Motor that

896
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: got them into Tight's territory. What the play that will

897
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: be forgotten is the play that happens right after that.

898
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: And I'd like to get Andre where to speak on

899
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: this because one of the things that Dre always talks

900
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: about is and we talk about, is you know, you

901
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: got these running backs that you'll make a long run

902
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: and then they'll come out of the game. They'll go

903
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: get a rest after a long run. Well, Motor, it

904
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: just had that long catch and run. They turned right

905
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: around and they give him the ball and the next

906
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: and we're in a long field goal range, like long

907
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: field goal range, but we're not in I feel good

908
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: about field goal range yet, Like I'm thinking sixty you

909
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: know plus at that point. And so they give Motor

910
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: the ball in the next play and he ends up

911
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: slicing on the right side for about eight or nine yards,

912
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: and that's that's the play that actually gets them into

913
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: fuel goal range. Is that play, and they just hammer

914
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: that right side where George wasn't and we missed George

915
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: but will be forgotten. But it's a huge play because

916
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: they're at the thirty nine yard line. I think it

917
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: was it's fifty six, but Motor picks up five yards

918
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,919
Speaker 1: on that run, and it felt like it was more

919
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: than that. But he picks up five gets into the

920
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: thirty four and then the next running takes to the

921
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: house and you know, there's also a peek behind the curtain. Two.

922
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: I saw the fly, I saw the hold, saw the

923
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:46,439
Speaker 1: flag come out, so I knew. I knew the play

924
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: was coming back. I knew it. There's no way that

925
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: anybody who was going to talk that guy. I saw

926
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: the hole. So Mark is describing the action, and as

927
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: he's describing the action, and he's kind of going through

928
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: like motor to the five in the end zone time

929
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 1: and I'm screamed there was a flag. There's a flag.

930
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: And I'm like screaming at him, like, you know, you

931
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: don't worry about this call. Then I remember Mark and

932
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: I've had this conversation a long time ago about you know,

933
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna finish the call, because what happens if

934
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: that flag is erroneous. You know what happens if they

935
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: do pick up that flag. Then I've just given it

936
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: this blase a call expecting a flag, and it's one

937
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: of the greatest game winning touchdowns ever. And I've you know,

938
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: kind of mailed it in because I knew there was

939
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 1: a flag. So I was like, oh, yeah, you're right.

940
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: I probably should have just okay, but I saw it.

941
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: I knew it was coming back. Of course, the next play,

942
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: they you know, get minus one yard, and it was

943
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: at that point Demiko had told us. Okay, we're not well,

944
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: we're not gonna take any chances Verregional. Let Kymie kick it.

945
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: So I think Devin Singletary running the ball Kymie Fairban's

946
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: two fifty plus yard field goals. What if I had

947
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: told you, Drew the Texans would hold Derrick Henry to

948
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: ten total yards twenty touches now remarkable?

949
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you would have.

950
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: Told me, John, you've lost your ever loving mind. Yeah,

951
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 1: you had absolutely said that to me.

952
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 9: So much was made afterwards about sacking Will Levis seven times,

953
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 9: which was awesome, huge, second most sacks in a game

954
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 9: by a team by the Texans, and team history, phenomenal work.

955
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 9: I mean, I'm not gonna I'm not downgrading that. But

956
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 9: what they did to Derek Henry was more important, was

957
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 9: more impressive in my mind, considering what he had done,

958
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 9: how he had brutalized you for the previous five games

959
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 9: leading up to this one. In those five he had

960
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 9: a combined oney eighteen yards on average. He went for

961
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 9: twenty nine carries, two hundred and four yards and two

962
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 9: touchdowns in those five games against you. In four of

963
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 9: those five he had two hundred yards or more. He

964
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 9: only didn't crack two hundred last time you played him,

965
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 9: which was freezing cold game when he fumbled it away

966
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 9: late still at one hundred and twenty some yards.

967
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: Yep.

968
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 9: What you did to him was phenomenal. And at no

969
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 9: point did I think, Okay, this thing's over. They've got him,

970
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 9: because he's the type of guy like you can keep

971
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 9: giving him, give it to him and give it to

972
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 9: any busts. One and seventy five yards later, there he is,

973
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 9: and he does that, he gets he has eighty some yards.

974
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:24,720
Speaker 10: That's a nice afternoon.

975
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 6: Yep.

976
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:29,240
Speaker 9: But they did a phenomenal job and bottling up Derrick Henry,

977
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 9: and that's I think that's the story of this game. Quietly,

978
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 9: with all this stuff about the uniforms, all this stuff

979
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 9: about case Keenum and Kyamie Fairburn justifiably getting their due,

980
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 9: I think what you did to Derrick Henry to stop.

981
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 5: Him was huge.

982
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 9: All right, let's move forward. Let's move forward to Christmas morning.

983
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 9: We're gonna wait, wake up after a Texans victory. And

984
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,919
Speaker 9: when we do that, John, who will be your Cream

985
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 9: of the Crop Award winner? Sexans beat the Browns because

986
00:45:55,560 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 9: the crop l t Lawrence well Taylor team Jeremy Tunsall

987
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 9: he's got his work cut out for him.

988
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 6: He does.

989
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 1: Now the Browns use Miles Garrett a little bit differently,

990
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: and maybe Jim Schwartz will get smart. I shouldn't say

991
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz has been smart. He has done some things

992
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 1: with Miles Garrett. He doesn't beat Miles Garrett's head up

993
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: against the wall. He wants Miles Garrett to get to

994
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: the quarterback in every way, shape or form possible. And

995
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: if Laramie Tunsel is holding down the ford against Miles Garrett,

996
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 1: then he's gonna move him around. But the majority of

997
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: dropbacks that cj or Case or Davis, whomever is dropping back,

998
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna need Jeremy Tunseell handling Miles Garrett if at

999
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: all possible. And that's gonna be the toughest one. If

1000
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: the Texans are able to get the ball off, it's

1001
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 1: gonna be because the offensive line is holding its own

1002
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 1: against Zadarius Smith obviously rushers that have, but mainly Laramie

1003
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 1: Tunseell going against Miles Garrett. That that one is gonna

1004
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: be the toughest. That's gonna be toughest thing. So Laraimie

1005
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: Tunseel has to play like the Laramie Tunsel.

1006
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 9: We know, that's fantastic. That's fantastic. I'm gonna go with

1007
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 9: Devin Singletary. He's got to do close to what he

1008
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 9: did last week the Texans. That's a nice formula when

1009
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 9: he's running the ball and doing things because it's gonna

1010
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 9: open things.

1011
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: Up, and that's what this offense will need. Now the

1012
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: defense is gonna have to face Joe Flacco. We'll talk

1013
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: about the injury report. Joe Flaco ended up on that

1014
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: injury report. He's not the only quarterback on there. We'll

1015
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 1: talk about that a little bit too. But we get back.

1016
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: We're going to mics. Kevin Coogler, our good friend. He

1017
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: will join Mark vandermir next on Texans All Access. We

1018
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: go on our down one hour left to go right

1019
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: here on our Wednesday edition of Texans All Access. I'm

1020
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: your host, John Harrison, football analyst, sideline reporter for your

1021
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: Houston Texans and I always love this segment. In fact,

1022
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: I'm really the inspiration for this segment because I told Mark,

1023
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: I said, I need a segment from you, and I

1024
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: told him was probably I don't know, seven eight years ago,

1025
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: and I said, you know, would be really cool? Is

1026
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: if you got on the phone with the play by

1027
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: play voice to the other side. He's like, yes, I

1028
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 1: love that, and both of us are just I mean,

1029
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 1: that's like right up our alley. I love hearing the

1030
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: voices throughout the league. Now, Jim Donovan unable to do

1031
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: it for the Cleveland Browns, so we thought, man, who

1032
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 1: would be good? And Mark said, I know, I'll get

1033
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: Kevin Coogler. And I said, that's great because Kevin Coogler

1034
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: did the TV call for Barris Browns last week, so

1035
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,919
Speaker 1: this is gonna be awesome. It's gonna be perfect. And

1036
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 1: Kevin Cougler's a good friend for the preseason. He calls

1037
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: our preseason TV games and it's as cool as it gets.

1038
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: That makes for a perfect man behind the MIC's segment.

1039
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: So let's do it. Martynermer, the voice of the Texans,

1040
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: Kevin Cougler, our good friend here mut Fox Sports games.

1041
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: He does basketball, he's doing football, he does everything. So

1042
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,959
Speaker 1: go man behind the MIC's with Kevin and Mark. Let's

1043
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: go Mark take it away.

1044
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 4: Joining us now Texans Radio. It's Kevin Cougler from Fox

1045
00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 4: NFL coverage, Big Ten Network Texans preseason games. Of course,

1046
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 4: Chavin how's it going with my friend?

1047
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 6: It is going great. Always a pleasure to chat with you,

1048
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 6: and the chat with good folks in Houston.

1049
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 4: Always great to hear from you. And we see on

1050
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,720
Speaker 4: the Big ten network, we see you doing Fox games.

1051
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 4: So let's talk Cleveland Browns because you have become sort

1052
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 4: of an unofficial TV voice of the Cleveland Browns in

1053
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 4: recent weeks. Kevin, and you've seen the transition into the

1054
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 4: mini Joe Flacco era. Let's start there. What are your

1055
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 4: thoughts on Flaco qbing for the Browns and the results.

1056
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 6: It is remarkable to see you just don't see this

1057
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 6: very often. A thirty eight year old quarterback who had

1058
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 6: been ignored by every team that needs quarterbacks across this league.

1059
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 6: He had been sitting at home, He'd been throwing passes

1060
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 6: with his kids. He'd been trying to stay in shape,

1061
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 6: but nobody was calling. He thought he still had some

1062
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 6: in the tank. He wasn't sure. Finally, the Browns got

1063
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 6: to the point where they needed a quarterback. They decided

1064
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 6: to call him. And it's been remarkable. It's like he

1065
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 6: dipped himself in magic waters all of a sudden. Joe Flacco,

1066
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 6: thirty eight year old looks more like Joe Flacco, twenty

1067
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 6: eight year old. He's got dip on the arm. He's

1068
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 6: throwing the football all over the lot. He's thrown for

1069
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 6: over three hundred yards the last two games, and he's

1070
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,439
Speaker 6: led the Cleveland brown who are a team that's been

1071
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 6: decimated by injuries more so than anybody else in the league.

1072
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 6: Twenty six percent of their entire salary cap is on

1073
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,240
Speaker 6: ir right now, which is the most in the National

1074
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 6: Football League by far. Nobody's even over twenty percent outside

1075
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 6: of Cleveland. And yet there they are nine and five

1076
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 6: in the AFC and sitting in that top wild card spot.

1077
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 6: And a lot of it has to do with their defense,

1078
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 6: but a good chunk of it the last couple of

1079
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 6: weeks has to do with the play of Joe Flacco

1080
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 6: leading him past the Jags and then the comeback winn

1081
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 6: against the Bears.

1082
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, they still run the ball well, right, I Mean,

1083
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,280
Speaker 4: they don't have Nick Chubb, but they still have guys

1084
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 4: who can carry the leather and do things with it.

1085
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 4: And that's a big part of it as well.

1086
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 6: Right, there's no doubt when you've got your own ford

1087
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 6: who can do a little bit of everything that brought

1088
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 6: back Kareem Hunt when Chubb went down with the injury

1089
00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 6: in Week two to try to shore it up, and

1090
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 6: guy who would have no learning curve coming in, he

1091
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 6: would know the system obviously. He's been a Cleveland brown

1092
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 6: for the bulk of his career, so you bring him

1093
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 6: back in. He's got a little bit left. And then

1094
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 6: Joe Flacco comes in and starts to distribute the ball.

1095
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 6: David Njoku, the tight end, has really started to blossom

1096
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 6: with Joe Flacco as his quarterback. They've started to rely

1097
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 6: on him a little bit more and he's very athletic.

1098
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 6: Has had some drop issues in his career, but seemingly

1099
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 6: over the last couple of games has started to fix

1100
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 6: that problem. At least, he's hung on to the football

1101
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 6: with a better accuracy number than the last couple in

1102
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 6: the last couple of games. And you know what, you

1103
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,959
Speaker 6: give Joe Flacco some credit for that. Adamari Cooper still

1104
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 6: has plenty of gas in the tank. They're an interesting team,

1105
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 6: but that defense is really the story with the Cleveland Browns.

1106
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 6: Miles Garrett and that Cleveland defense keeps them in games

1107
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 6: long enough for an offense that sometimes has fits and

1108
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 6: starts to be able to get it going.

1109
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, we all see what Miles Garrett can do. He's outstanding,

1110
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 4: but it's not just him, right, they just attack the

1111
00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 4: ball from wherever they're coming from.

1112
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 6: Well, when we've all seen Jim Schwartz coach, whether it's

1113
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 6: a head coach or defensive quarter in this league for

1114
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 6: however many years, I mean it's been decades, and Jim

1115
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 6: Schwartz is never afraid to bring pressure from any side,

1116
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 6: from all sides, mix up his pressure, run a bunch

1117
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 6: of different games up front. They really do a lot

1118
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 6: of different things with that defense. It's also been hit

1119
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 6: hard by injuries, but they've got a good secondary. That

1120
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 6: back end is strong. You get pressure from upfront, and

1121
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 6: Jim Schwartz brings that pressure from all over the place.

1122
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 6: It's really it's an interesting setup. Kevin Stefanci's obviously an

1123
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 6: offensive head coach and has been a very good offensive

1124
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 6: head coach in his career, and now Jim Schwartz in

1125
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 6: charge of that defense has really turned that defense into

1126
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 6: a formidable unit. And despite all the injuries, there's Cleveland somehow,

1127
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 6: I mean, really nobody knows quite exactly how this is

1128
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 6: being strung together, and I can tell you, including the

1129
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 6: coaching staff, because every week they've got somebody else that

1130
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 6: goes down. They had two starters left from week one

1131
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:56,919
Speaker 6: on their offensive line. They lost one of them last

1132
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 6: week in Joe Batonio. So they're under one right now

1133
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 6: in their offense good line alone that were week one starters,

1134
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 6: and yet they're there are nine to five doing it

1135
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 6: with a variety of different things and a variety of

1136
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 6: different players.

1137
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,479
Speaker 4: Kevin Kogler joining us on Texan's Radio Quick Aside here

1138
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 4: as the Bears just lost to the Browns. It was

1139
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 4: a very close game, could have what should have hail

1140
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 4: Mary attempt by the Bears. What do you make of that?

1141
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 4: Because they do play d there's no question about that.

1142
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 4: They do have some playmaking ability as well. But the

1143
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 4: record doesn't reflect any kind of success right now.

1144
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 6: At five and nine, they've they've struggled to close games, Mark,

1145
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 6: and you see that a lot with teams that are

1146
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 6: trying to figure things out. They're young, no excuses. This

1147
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 6: league is this league, and you are what you are.

1148
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 6: You know, as the famous quote was, we are what

1149
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 6: our record says we are, and what the Bears are

1150
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 6: right now as a team that's barely hanging into a

1151
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 6: slim chance that a possible postseason birth and they're probably

1152
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 6: not going to get there, and then they're gonna have

1153
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 6: some decisions to make. But I will say too, Chi

1154
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 6: Riflus has done a nice job with this defense. Remember

1155
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 6: he had to take over defensive play calling early in

1156
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 6: the season when their defensive coordinator abruptly stepped away, and

1157
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 6: he's done a nice job getting these guys to play.

1158
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 6: They added Montese Sweat from the Commanders and then signed

1159
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 6: him to a big four year extension, and Montez Sweat

1160
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 6: now leads the Commanders in sacks and the Chicago Bears

1161
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 6: in sacks, so that's never happened before. Nobody's ever led

1162
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,919
Speaker 6: two teams in the same season in sacks. We'll see

1163
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 6: if he ends up in a few weeks as the

1164
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 6: sack leader for both the Commanders and the Bears. But

1165
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 6: his addition has really turned that defense around. Their numbers

1166
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 6: in the last six games are a far different cry

1167
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 6: from what they were at the beginning of this season,

1168
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 6: and a lot of it has to do with the

1169
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 6: addition of Montez Sweat, But that offense has really struggled

1170
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 6: justin fields out of the lineup for four games. They

1171
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 6: had to go with Tyson Bagent. They went two and

1172
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 6: two when he was out. It's just a team that

1173
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 6: doesn't really have enough offense to support that defense. And

1174
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 6: we saw that again on Sunday. They had a seventeen

1175
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 6: to seven leads, a rare breakdown defensively, but there's just

1176
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 6: no margin for error with a team like the Bears.

1177
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,760
Speaker 4: Kevin Coogler joining us on Texans Radio, Kevin we mentioned

1178
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 4: fl the Texans just had to play a game without c. J.

1179
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:03,240
Speaker 2: Stroud.

1180
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 4: Do you remember a time where you've seen so many

1181
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 4: reserve quarterbacks playing key roles for teams in the playoff mix,

1182
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 4: some firmly entrenched in the playoff hunt like the Cleveland

1183
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 4: Browns and the Texans have a pretty good shot as well.

1184
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 4: I don't remember seeing so many backup quarterbacks factor in

1185
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 4: this way.

1186
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 6: I don't either, Mark. In fact, every time we go

1187
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 6: into a city, it's like, I feel like I've got

1188
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 6: to make sure I have great stories on these backup

1189
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 6: quarterbacks because half of them are in the games. Tyson

1190
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 6: Bagent to the Bears. I just mentioned him, a guy

1191
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,399
Speaker 6: nobody thought was going to be a starting quarterback. In league.

1192
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 6: They four starts this year. We've seen it in the

1193
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 6: Key in the Texans Division, obviously with the Texans. How

1194
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 6: about with the colt not exactly what they had planned

1195
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 6: on for their quarterback situation. There they are right in

1196
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,280
Speaker 6: the mix for the playoffs. Cleveland Browns are using a quarterback,

1197
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 6: one of their four starting quarterbacks to win a game

1198
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 6: this year that as of a month and a half ago,

1199
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 6: wasn't on any team. And it's been this way all

1200
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 6: across the league. We saw Monday night with Seattle winning

1201
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 6: a game with Drew Locke as the starting quarterback. It

1202
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 6: just continues on and on. I've not seen anything quite

1203
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 6: like this across the league. And I mean this is

1204
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 6: this shows the value of the position, but it also

1205
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 6: shows the value of having a capable backup like the

1206
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 6: Texans do with case Keenum and with David Mills. You've

1207
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 6: got guys there who can pick up the slack when

1208
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 6: TJ's not able to go in a rare game. Obviously,

1209
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 6: everybody wants to see CJ back, whether you're a Texans

1210
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 6: fran or not. He's one of the most dynamic and

1211
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 6: exciting young players in the National Football League. But you've

1212
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 6: got to have that guy who can step in, a

1213
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 6: veteran who can win a game or two for you

1214
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 6: when you need him to. Texan saw that this week.

1215
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 6: Colts have seen it, Seattle has seen it. You don't

1216
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 6: have that good backup quarterback or a capable backup quarterback,

1217
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 6: you're in a lot of trouble.

1218
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 4: Kevin, we caught up several weeks ago, it might have

1219
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 4: been a couple of months ago, and I asked you

1220
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 4: about this. The Texans were starting to make some noise

1221
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 4: with CJ. Stroud and company and Demiko Ryans as head coach,

1222
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 4: and having done the preseason games for years now and

1223
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 4: especially this year, how surprised are you that here they

1224
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 4: are at eight and right in the thick of it

1225
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 4: in the AFC playoff.

1226
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 3: Chase.

1227
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 6: I think when we left camp and when we left

1228
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 6: the preseason, I think everybody thought this team was going

1229
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 6: to be better. I mean, the talent was clear that

1230
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,399
Speaker 6: it was better, and it was an improved roster from

1231
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 6: what we saw last year with the Texans. But I

1232
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 6: would be I'd be blowing smoke if I said I

1233
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 6: thought they'd be eight and six at this point and

1234
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 6: knocking on the door of the postseason. That was not

1235
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 6: something that I thought was possible this year. I expected

1236
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 6: to see it in a year or two. I think

1237
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 6: Demiko's the right guy, and I think we all thought that,

1238
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 6: we all felt it right when we first got the

1239
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 6: chance to talk with him in the summer. But I mean,

1240
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 6: my gosh, the development that we've seen in dj Straud,

1241
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:42,919
Speaker 6: Will Anderson, this whole team has really come together. They're

1242
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 6: fun to watch, and it's fun to see because I'll

1243
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 6: run into people across the league or I'll talk to

1244
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 6: friends of mine who will say, yeah, if you watched

1245
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 6: the Texans, they're a lot of fun. Oh, that's a

1246
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 6: fun team to watch. That's a cool team to watch.

1247
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 6: This is a team that I mean, we're going to

1248
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 6: be talking like this for years now with this young,

1249
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 6: cool that's in place for Houston. But it's fun to see. Man,

1250
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 6: I didn't expect it to be this quick coming out

1251
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 6: of camp, but I'm excited to see it. I'm excited

1252
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 6: for the city of Houston. It's been a franchise that

1253
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 6: we've all known had the ability to get to this point,

1254
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 6: and I really just think we're we're at the starting

1255
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 6: line for the Texans right now. So it's going to

1256
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 6: be so fun to watch this race run over the

1257
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 6: next several years.

1258
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 4: Kevin Coogler with us, Kevin, give me a couple of

1259
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 4: the best games you've called this year for Fox. Memorable games,

1260
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 4: really great games that you're gonna remember for a long time.

1261
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 6: Well, you know, in last week's Browns Bears game was

1262
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 6: fun just from the standpoint of a near hail Mary

1263
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 6: you mentioned it that landed right in the lap of

1264
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 6: Darnell Mooney. If he secures it, the Bears have a win.

1265
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 6: I don't know that it's a game that will go

1266
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 6: down as one of the great games I've ever seen.

1267
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 6: But two weeks ago we had Vikings Raiders and that

1268
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 6: we were three minutes away from the first scoreless overtime

1269
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 6: game in the history of the National Football League. We

1270
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 6: ended up with a three nothing Vikings win. I'm not

1271
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 6: I'm going to put that in the loop as far

1272
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 6: as great games in the history of the sport, but

1273
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 6: it was one of those historic games that you look

1274
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 6: back on and you think, Wow, that's crazy. And then

1275
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 6: four days later I had Thursday Night Football for Westwood

1276
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 6: One and the Raiders put up sixty points. So I

1277
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 6: go from a zero point Raider output to a sixty

1278
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 6: point output in the span of four days. That's the

1279
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 6: stretch I'll certainly remember. And then we had the chance

1280
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 6: early in the year to call the Eagles and the Jets,

1281
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 6: and it was the Eagles first loss at the time

1282
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 6: against the Jets team that you'd have to say that

1283
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 6: was the high water mark of their season. It's been

1284
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 6: a rough year for the folks in Green in New York,

1285
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 6: and that was really the high water mark. It was

1286
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 6: a high broadcast number for us, and we were excited

1287
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 6: about that, and it was a memorable game. It was

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Speaker 6: a lot of fun to be there for that one.

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Speaker 4: Kevin Coogler with us. All Right, So, Kevin, let's shift

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Speaker 4: gears here to college because I know you do so

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Speaker 4: much college basketball, you do everything. We all know this.

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Speaker 4: So college basketball layoff format versus college football playoff format,

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00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 4: where we are going next year with the twelve teams?

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Speaker 4: You like it at twelve? You want more. I know

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Speaker 4: we've talked about this in broad strokes in the past,

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Speaker 4: but we're getting oh so closer to this actually becoming reality.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't want any more than that. College is

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01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 6: there's such a there's a line to where you know what,

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Speaker 6: I know there's more teams playing Division one college football

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Speaker 6: than the NFL. I don't want any more than that.

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Speaker 6: I don't want the basketball tournament to expand. I like

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Speaker 6: where we are with the way things are in basketball,

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01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 6: the way they're going to go in football. You could

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Speaker 6: have sold me on a smaller number for a college

1305
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 6: football playoff, and I would not have argued with that.

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01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 6: I don't I think four is too small. You could

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01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 6: have probably sold me on an eighteen playoff. I you know,

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Speaker 6: I know where we're going with this. I just hope

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Speaker 6: it doesn't get to the point where it's so watered

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Speaker 6: down that you've reduced the regular season to rubble. There's

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01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 6: still value in the regular season. I hope there continues

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01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 6: to be value in the regular season. I'm not one

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Speaker 6: of those people that thinks an expanded playoff is going

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Speaker 6: to do them the regular season, because I work every

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Speaker 6: week in the nash Football Again, I know the regular

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Speaker 6: season matters a ton, even with more teams in the

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Speaker 6: playoffs now than we had ten years ago in the NFL.

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Speaker 6: So I don't buy the notion of, oh, if you

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Speaker 6: expanded to twelve to sixteen, it's going to become some

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Speaker 6: sort of water down thing to where it won't matter

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Speaker 6: at all. I just don't want to see it go

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Speaker 6: beyond that. We don't need a sixty four team NCAA

1323
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 6: football bracket. We don't even need a forty eight team

1324
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Speaker 6: like you see at the Division one double air of

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01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 6: the Division two levels. That's too many. Let's keep it

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Speaker 6: at a manageable number so that everything matters the regular

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Speaker 6: season and then the postseason.

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Speaker 4: All Right, You've been in the Big Ten for a

1329
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 4: long time broadcasting games, and I know you're in a

1330
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Speaker 4: lot of these gyms week to week, that kind of thing.

1331
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Speaker 4: What is the scuttle butt about the expansion of the

1332
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Speaker 4: Big Ten with the purists? Because you talk to a

1333
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Speaker 4: lot of the school administrators. You can't fight change. It

1334
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 4: is what it is. It has to happen. But is

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Speaker 4: there some resistance among some of the people who have

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Speaker 4: been there for a long time, or some reluctance? How

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Speaker 4: do you see it?

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Speaker 6: What are you hearing from a purest standpoint? I think

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01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 6: there's more resign nation than anything else. A not a

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Speaker 6: oh I'm going to resist this change or anything else,

1341
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 6: just sort of a yeah, this is how it's going

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Speaker 6: to be. And we're stuck with this and this is what.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be.

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Speaker 6: I'm excited to see what's going to happen. I mean,

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01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 6: I'm one of those people that, you know, what, if

1346
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 6: this is the reality you're presenting me with, we're going

1347
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 6: to make the best of what that reality is. And

1348
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 6: so I'm going to make the best of that and

1349
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 6: see what it goes. The one thing I worry about

1350
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 6: is not football, and not even really basketball, but all

1351
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 6: the other sports. It really creates a significant burden on

1352
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 6: the other sports and it makes it difficult. And I

1353
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 6: know nobody cares about the other sports. From the grand

1354
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 6: scheme of things. This is all about football. Maybe somebody

1355
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 6: thinks about basketball along the way, but it's mainly about football.

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Speaker 6: And I do think that if you get into the

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01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 6: position where you're ignoring completely all the other sports, I

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01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 6: really do think it hurts those student athletes and it

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01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 6: hurts their opportunities when they're traveling from to Scataway, New Jersey,

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01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 6: to Los Angeles, California for a midweek volleyball. That's a

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01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 6: tough ask.

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Speaker 3: M H.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely in those sports, that is a real tough life. Kevin,

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01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 4: give you the next couple of games on your schedule

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Speaker 4: NFL wise, and I have some college hoops. You have

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Speaker 4: Creighton going on tonight. You have a lot of things happening.

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Speaker 6: Creighton Villanova on FS one on Wednesday Night. We've got

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01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 6: Bears Cardinals on Sunday on Fox, and then Christmas Holiday

1369
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 6: gives me a few days off before we wrap up

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Speaker 6: the calendar year with the Giants and the Rams on

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Speaker 6: New Year's Eve Day from New York City, which could

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Speaker 6: be a real critical game for the Rams who are

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01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 6: trying to right now in the playoff hunt. They've got

1374
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 6: the Saints and then they've got ten days off before

1375
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 6: they go out East to take on the Giants. The

1376
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 6: Giants team that's clinging to the very slim chances they're

1377
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 6: probably in the same spot as the Bears and that

1378
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 6: they won't be in the postseason, but the Rams have

1379
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 6: designs on being in the postseasons. One are the real

1380
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 6: surprise teams this year in the NFC. I don't think

1381
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 6: anybody expected to be talking Rams in the playoffs with

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01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 6: that young roster coming off a season like they had

1383
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Speaker 6: last year. So that'll be a real interesting game in

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Speaker 6: a week or so.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely looking forward to all of it. Kevin, thanks so

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01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 4: much for joining us. Look forward to catch it up soon.

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Speaker 6: Thanks Mark. Always good to hear from you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it always does my heart some good when we

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01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 1: get Kevin on the air. He is fantastic at his job,

1390
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 1: so so good, great pipes, great manager of the game

1391
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 1: and calling. It puts the right amount of excitement in it.

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01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 1: I love listening to a lot of times I'm going

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01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 1: back and watch the game. I don't really listen to

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01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 1: the call, but I had to volume up and I

1395
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 1: heard it was Kevin. I was like, man, I'll let

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01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 1: this go. I think he and Sanchez do a pretty

1397
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 1: good job. Mark Sanchez does the call with him, so

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01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 1: I think that's a pretty good team. So hopefully, I

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01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe last couple of games. Maybe we'll get

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Speaker 1: one of them.

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Either way, we got Iron Eagle Charles Davis. In fact,

1403
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 1: we'll hear Charles Davis on Friday as he joined Drew

1404
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 1: to discuss this one against the Cleveland Browns. Then we

1405
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 1: get back. Oh boy. The injury report when you're going

1406
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 1: to week sixteen is usually gory, gruesome, awful, and it is.

1407
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 1: So we'll give you as much of an update as

1408
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 1: we can about CJ. Stre and what else is on

1409
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 1: the injury report on both sides, It's not pretty on

1410
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 1: either side. So we'll get into that next right here

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Speaker 1: on Texans All Access. What's up, everybody? Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: a Wednesday edition of Texans All Access from the Texans

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01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 1: Radio studio. I'm your host, John Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter,

1414
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 1: getting ready for the third straight year of facing the

1415
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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, and we're facing the third different quarter This

1416
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 1: is how weird this kind of all is. Texans would

1417
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 1: be a third time the Texans have played the Browns.

1418
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 1: It will be the third different quarterback matchup. In twenty

1419
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 1: one we faced them, it was Trod Taylor against Baker Mayfield.

1420
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 1: Trod got hurt, then Davis jumped in. In twenty twenty two,

1421
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 1: it was Kyle Allen who stepped in and took on

1422
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. And now it looks as if it will

1423
01:05:55,400 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 1: be case Keenum versus Joe Flacco. That's just bizarre that

1424
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 1: three games in three years with six different starting quarterbacks.

1425
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 1: Now CJ would have been a six different starting quarterback.

1426
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 1: But update on CJ. As much as we know, he

1427
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 1: was not at practice today and that's I mean, it's

1428
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 1: just part of the protocol. He's just not at practice today,

1429
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 1: and that puts in jeopardy his opportunity to play on Sunday.

1430
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 1: And you know, I hate the phrase. It is what

1431
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 1: it is. But there's nothing really he can do about it.

1432
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 1: You know, it's just whenever he can get back, he

1433
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 1: can get back. Hopefully we get him back. If we don't,

1434
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 1: we trudge on. I think one of the things that

1435
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 1: Demiko Ryans and Nick Cassario have talked about all year long,

1436
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 1: and I'd liken it to a Food Network chop television

1437
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 1: show basket. What's in a basket? Well, we got a

1438
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 1: case Keenum and we got a Dalton Schultz and we've

1439
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 1: got eighty percent of our offensive line. What can we

1440
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 1: do with that? Okay, we'll figure it out. We'll figure

1441
01:06:58,080 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 1: it out. Put it on a T shirt. We'll figure out.

1442
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 1: Because it's are figuring it out without some of their

1443
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 1: key guys. Now, today at practice was the epitome of

1444
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 1: we'll figure it out because two four, six eight players

1445
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 1: did not participate in practice. Tell me if you've heard

1446
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 1: these names before, Will Anderson Junior, Yeah, big name, So

1447
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 1: deal with that ankle Blake Cashman, AFS Defensive Player of

1448
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 1: the Week Week six hamstring, Brevin Jordan's sick, John Metchi

1449
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 1: the third sick. Shaq Mason deal with a calf issue

1450
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 1: obviously CJ Stovi concussion. Larry Tunsel typically has Wednesdays to

1451
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 1: rest at knee and gets some rests as a veteran.

1452
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 1: He did not participate today. In Jimmy Ward was out

1453
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 1: at practice, but in a visual capacity, just kind of visiting,

1454
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 1: if you will. He was dealing with that concussion he

1455
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 1: suffered against the Titans. Limited participants no Brown Malink Collins,

1456
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 1: Nico Collins, Denzel Perriman, and Robert Woods his rest day

1457
01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 1: back at practice full, which is nice to see with

1458
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 1: George fan with that hip and Stephen Nelson with the hand.

1459
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 1: Now the Browns, it's not much better. The Browns injury

1460
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 1: situation is well. We already know at the quarterback position

1461
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 1: it's been rough because they lost to Sean Watson, then

1462
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 1: DTR Drian Thompson. Robinson was hurt. PJ. Walker was in

1463
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 1: and out of the lineup. They've won games all three

1464
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 1: of those guys. Joe Flacco steps in. Flacco was a

1465
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 1: limited participant in practice today dealing with a calf issue. Now,

1466
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 1: he wasn't alone in that limited but we'll get that

1467
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 1: a second didn't that participates in these are big Joe

1468
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 1: Botonio back knee. He left the game against the Bears

1469
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 1: last week. Mary Cooper gets a rest day, Miles Garrett

1470
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 1: gets a rest day, David and Joku gets a rest day,

1471
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 1: but he's dealing with a knee. Wyatt Taylor gets a

1472
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 1: rest day, but he's dealing with ankle. Wanna Thornhill with

1473
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:53,799
Speaker 1: a calf, Obok Peck and Judahschik the linebacker with a calf.

1474
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:58,720
Speaker 1: So pretty heavy hitters there on that side. Now, I

1475
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 1: would imagine Cooper, Garrett and Joko and Tellor those not

1476
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 1: injury related rest days. They'll be back. I'm not too

1477
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:09,759
Speaker 1: concerned about that. But Potonio is a big one to watch,

1478
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:15,640
Speaker 1: as is Thornhill, Okroonquo Ocuronquo didn't play last week. We

1479
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 1: know Obo from here that Peck injury. It sounds like

1480
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 1: it could be for the year, but we'll find out.

1481
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 1: Wan Thornhill has been on and off with that calf

1482
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:24,640
Speaker 1: for a while. He's starting safety, so their safeties have

1483
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 1: kind of been all over the place. Last week, they

1484
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 1: started d' Anthony Bell and rookie Ronnie Hickman from Ohio State.

1485
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 1: So Potonio's if this continues where some people think it will,

1486
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 1: Buttonio being out, that means four of the five will

1487
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 1: be backups. One of those backups is Drawn Christian. He

1488
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 1: was limited with his shoulder. If you're like, wait, that

1489
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:50,760
Speaker 1: name sounds familiar. Yeah. He rotated with Austin Deculus at

1490
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 1: left tackle against the Steelers in Week four. For the Texans,

1491
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 1: it's nuts now Flacco I think will probably be okay.

1492
01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 1: Drump Ford Kareem Hunt. Both running backs deal is they

1493
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 1: were limited. Ethan Postik now back could help at center

1494
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:06,560
Speaker 1: that Nick Harris last week against the Bears, post X

1495
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Speaker 1: the starter he'd been deal with a stinger, and Anthony

1496
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 1: Walker with a need limited participants so Keith. The Browns

1497
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 1: didn't practice just to walk through, So this is what

1498
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:16,639
Speaker 1: they would have if it would have been a little

1499
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:18,719
Speaker 1: bit more than that. So injury report on both sides

1500
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 1: pretty pretty gruesome at this point, not gruesome as Max Loeb.

1501
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 1: He covers the Browns for the Believed Network. He'll join

1502
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:29,640
Speaker 1: Drew behind Enemy Sidelines next on Texans All Access. We

1503
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:32,639
Speaker 1: won final segment is Wednesday edition that Texans All Access

1504
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 1: from Unday Texans Radio Studio. I'm your host, John Harris,

1505
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:40,600
Speaker 1: football analyst, sideline reporter for your Houston Texans. Glad you

1506
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:42,640
Speaker 1: have been with me this evening. We've had a lot

1507
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 1: of fun. We had Nick Cassario on earlier and he's

1508
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:47,640
Speaker 1: always a blast market. I love get a chance to

1509
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 1: talk with him. We had Drew Doerty on for in

1510
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:52,640
Speaker 1: the Lab. Shelby Coppice did a great job with the

1511
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 1: slant with Bobby Trees aka Robert Woods. Kevin Coogler was

1512
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 1: on the show as well. So a big thanks to

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01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:02,559
Speaker 1: all of those individuals who were there, and of course

1514
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Speaker 1: to you guys for listening, but thank you at the

1515
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 1: end as well. But we gotta get to one final

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Speaker 1: segment here, and we're gonna go behind enemy sidelines. That's right.

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01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 1: Max Lobe I texted Drew and I said, hey, is

1518
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 1: Max Lobe any relation to Lisa Loeb? And I of

1519
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:23,639
Speaker 1: course described who Lisa Lobe was and she's a Brown

1520
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 1: University graduate and he was like duh, son, He sunned me.

1521
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:30,679
Speaker 1: He was like, son, I know who that is. Well,

1522
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 1: Max Lobe covers the Browns for the Believed Network. We're

1523
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 1: going behind enemy sidelines with Max Lobe and of course

1524
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 1: our Paltrow Dorty. Let's go grow.

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Speaker 10: Okay, it's time to talk Cleveland Browns. We're gonna do

1526
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 10: so with Max Lobe.

1527
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 9: He's the co host of the Dog Check on the

1528
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 9: Believe podcast network. He does it with a former Texas Longhorn.

1529
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 9: One of my all time favorite players, Eric Metcalf, a

1530
01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:57,719
Speaker 9: real slippery guy as a running back, as a receiver,

1531
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 9: as a return man. He was a force of nature

1532
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 9: and Max. I don't know if you've ever seen this,

1533
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 9: but Eric has a fantastic video. It was basically his

1534
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 9: heisman hype video and it was produced by I think

1535
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:12,680
Speaker 9: the University of Texas with the worst song you could

1536
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 9: probably ever put on a hype video.

1537
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:15,480
Speaker 10: It was like a slow.

1538
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 9: Love song at Alabama and it was called You've Got

1539
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 9: the Touch. So go look that up, you'll you will

1540
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 9: not be disappointed. It's probably forty five minutes of content.

1541
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 9: But Max, First things first, thanks for coming on.

1542
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 1: You guys.

1543
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 9: Are the Cleveland Browns ever gonna lose again? I mean,

1544
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 9: what's going on? This is supposed to be Once Deshaun

1545
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 9: Watson went down, it was like lights out, that's it,

1546
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 9: and that has not been the case whatsoever.

1547
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:43,879
Speaker 11: I hope they never lose again, but I think eventually

1548
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 11: it'll be inevitable. But I don't know yet. When DeShawn

1549
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 11: went down, when Nick Chubb went down, when obol or

1550
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 11: Uncle went down, when they're starting tackles went down, it's

1551
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 11: just everything. And I'm sure we'll touch on that later.

1552
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,600
Speaker 11: But you wouldn't think they would be as good as

1553
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:00,640
Speaker 11: they are, but finding ways to win. And I think

1554
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 11: that's the credit the coaching staff for sure. But the

1555
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 11: personnel they put in place too, they're what I've seen

1556
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:07,760
Speaker 11: is they're really going out of their way to maximize

1557
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 11: what they had, especially offensively. The identity has changed tremendously

1558
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 11: over the past couple weeks, especially with Joe Flacco. You

1559
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 11: think in Cleveland Browns football, you think of running the ball,

1560
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 11: You think of time of possession and field position battle,

1561
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 11: which are the case partially, but they are passing the

1562
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 11: ball like nobody else. The three games of Flaccos the

1563
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 11: second most pass yards in the NFL. So it's been

1564
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 11: really really refreshing to see Stefanski and that staff utilize

1565
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 11: their personnel in different ways and obviously the defense has

1566
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 11: been doing it all year long, but it's really really

1567
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 11: cool to see. I think they will lose again eventually,

1568
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:41,559
Speaker 11: but hopefully not any time soon.

1569
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 9: And we're going to dive deeper into some more stuff.

1570
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 9: But I mean, just thirty thousand foot view, it says

1571
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 9: a hell of a lot. And you touched on this

1572
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:50,559
Speaker 9: says a hell of a lot about the character of

1573
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 9: the team and the coaching staff, Like you're talking about

1574
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 9: too to persevere when man, so many odds have just

1575
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 9: been stacked against four different starting quarterbacks correct.

1576
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 11: Correct, and they've won a game with any every single one.

1577
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 11: Excuse me, Yeah, it's pretty crazy.

1578
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:07,679
Speaker 9: Well, let's talk about Joe Flacco. What have you seen

1579
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 9: from this guy the last few weeks. I remember Joe

1580
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 9: Flacco obviously from what he did with the Ravens, and

1581
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 9: I remember being on the field. The Texans played Baltimore

1582
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 9: twice in twenty eleven, once in the regular season in October,

1583
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 9: once in just an epic playoff game in the Divisional round,

1584
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 9: and the Texans absolutely beat the ever living hell out

1585
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:29,640
Speaker 9: of Joe Flacco. I'm never gonna say Joe Flacco is

1586
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 9: an elite quarterback, but I will say Joe Flacco is

1587
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 9: an elite tough guy. He took everything they had. He

1588
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 9: just popped back up and kept slinging it.

1589
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:41,760
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's very much been like that in Cleveland too.

1590
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 11: Like I just harped on, they don't have their starting

1591
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 11: right tackle, their starting left tackle, and their backup right

1592
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 11: tackle was probably gonna be on the All Rookie team

1593
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 11: also done for the year, so it's a beat up

1594
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 11: offensive line. Their center was out last game. Their left guard,

1595
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:57,720
Speaker 11: Joel Patonio got banged up and missed a bunch of snaps.

1596
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:00,720
Speaker 11: It's a it's a makeshift offense of line, so he's

1597
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 11: taken some hits. But they've done a really good job

1598
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 11: of keeping extra guys in protection. They've done a really

1599
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 11: good job of chipping guys like Montes Sue. I think

1600
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 11: he had a sack last game, but neutralized for the

1601
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 11: vast majority of the game. And they're just letting them

1602
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 11: sling the ball. It's really really refreshing to see. And

1603
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:20,599
Speaker 11: you kind of knew watching the Browns games this year

1604
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:22,679
Speaker 11: that Amari Cooper still had a while left in the tank.

1605
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:25,719
Speaker 11: You obviously know what you have athletically, and David Nijoku

1606
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 11: and I was a big Elijah Morgan. I think his

1607
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:31,960
Speaker 11: rapport with Flacco in New York previously helped a lot too,

1608
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 11: but he's been getting involved a lot more. It's good

1609
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 11: to see them trusting those guys because I think they

1610
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 11: have a lot of talent, and I think the old

1611
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 11: Browns without Flacco, you're almost pigeonholed into this. You know,

1612
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 11: play action zone, run centric scheme with quarterbacks who can

1613
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 11: also pull the ball, pull the ball, so you got

1614
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 11: to pass a little bit more and you got to

1615
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:53,759
Speaker 11: make up for those lost snaps where you were running

1616
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:56,560
Speaker 11: the ball efficiently with quarterbacks too, but you got to

1617
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 11: make up for the snaps. And it's been really really

1618
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 11: good for the most part. With Flacco, I will see.

1619
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:03,639
Speaker 11: I will say the turnovers really scare me because they

1620
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 11: not only come frequently, they come in bad places on

1621
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 11: the field. Like they had a pick that the Bears

1622
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 11: picked off at the Browns. I went like twenty five

1623
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:14,759
Speaker 11: or thirty yard line, returned to the one and scored

1624
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:18,719
Speaker 11: a touchdown. Blacko threw a pick six that was probably

1625
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 11: not all on him, but returned for a touchdown. The

1626
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 11: fumble he almost had a fumble. Excuse me, that was

1627
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:28,679
Speaker 11: their own twenty yard line, and then after the Bears

1628
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:30,720
Speaker 11: muffed the punt, the Browns got the ball at the

1629
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 11: Bears twenty six or twenty seven. Next play throws a pick.

1630
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 11: So the turnovers are not only happening frequently, they're happening

1631
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 11: at really bad places on the field too. So I

1632
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 11: don't think there's a good place to have a turnover

1633
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:42,720
Speaker 11: on the field, but doing it in your own red

1634
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 11: zone or your opponent's red zone, it's magnified for sure.

1635
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's an odd stat because the Texans are looking

1636
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 9: up at the Browns win loss wise, they're getting back

1637
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 9: of the Browns. But Cleveland is twenty eighth in turnover

1638
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 9: differential in the NFL. And for those that don't know,

1639
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:01,719
Speaker 9: turnover differential is when you have it's the difference between

1640
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:06,519
Speaker 9: takeaways and turnovers. So the Browns are twenty eighth in

1641
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:08,720
Speaker 9: the league. They've turned it over seven more times than

1642
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:12,639
Speaker 9: they've taken it away. And the Texans, meanwhile, they're fourth

1643
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 9: in the NFL. They're plus eight, so they've taken it

1644
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:16,559
Speaker 9: away eight more times.

1645
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 10: They've turned it over.

1646
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:19,640
Speaker 9: Only three teams forty nine ers, the Bengals and the

1647
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 9: Cowboys are better than Houston in that stat and it's

1648
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:24,720
Speaker 9: really really weird you bring it up as something that

1649
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 9: scares you. How have they been able to thrive, been

1650
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 9: able to win so many games, you think despite that disparity.

1651
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 11: I think one aspect of just defensive football in general

1652
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 11: that the turnover margin will never like statistically take into

1653
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 11: account is three and outs. The Browns have forced, I believe,

1654
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 11: more three and outs than anybody in the NFL, more

1655
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:48,599
Speaker 11: three and outs than anybody in the NFL at home.

1656
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:52,040
Speaker 11: So that is an enormous part of their defense. They

1657
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:53,720
Speaker 11: come out swing and they stop the run, they get

1658
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 11: off the feel quick. So like in the turnover margin,

1659
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 11: that is definitely a part of it for sure, But

1660
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 11: it's the red zone defense. If they turn the ball over,

1661
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:03,800
Speaker 11: the Browns are doing a really really good job of

1662
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 11: either not letting the other team get a first down

1663
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:07,680
Speaker 11: or move the football, or if they do get in

1664
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 11: the red zone, not letting them score. It's been difficult

1665
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:12,720
Speaker 11: with that. Denzel Ward last week was his first game back,

1666
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 11: but the red zone defense, holding teams to three instead

1667
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 11: of seven has been enormous for the Browns, and it's

1668
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 11: parts of it are just unexplainable. Like you think especially

1669
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:27,280
Speaker 11: that Jacksonville game that the Browns had last week, they

1670
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 11: literally did everything they could to actively lose the game

1671
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:32,559
Speaker 11: on offense, and they still wont. Sometimes you just find

1672
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 11: ways to win. You make more plays than the other team,

1673
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 11: you make plays at better times too, So there is

1674
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:40,680
Speaker 11: some aspect of it that's unexplainable. But taking care of

1675
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 11: the defense in the red zone and then the three

1676
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 11: and outs have been huge too. And like I said,

1677
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 11: that'll never be like statistically counted for in that aspect

1678
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 11: of turnover differential, but I honestly think it should. It's

1679
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 11: as good as a turnover forcing a punt within two minutes.

1680
01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:59,679
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, they're they've been outstanding. Like you mentioned,

1681
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:01,640
Speaker 9: you touch it. They've been out standing at home this year.

1682
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:04,439
Speaker 9: They've only lost the one game to the Ravens, yep.

1683
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 9: But on the road it's been a different story. They've

1684
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:09,880
Speaker 9: got two wins, but they've the defense they've they've given

1685
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:11,439
Speaker 9: up quite a bit. I mean, it looks like they're

1686
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:14,760
Speaker 9: averaging about thirty yards given up, or at least the

1687
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 9: Browns are giving up thirty yards a game, thirty points

1688
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 9: per game. Twenty is about the twenty four is about

1689
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 9: the best they've done. That's the lowest they've held their

1690
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 9: opponents too. How do you explain that? I mean defense

1691
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 9: usually travels, doesn't it.

1692
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 11: Well, it's weird when you look at it game by game.

1693
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 11: I think the biggest thing for the Browns this season.

1694
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 11: Everybody will point fingers at Miles Garrett being their best player.

1695
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:39,599
Speaker 11: I think people look at the tape, you point out

1696
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 11: Dalvin Tomlinson being a run stopper. That helps in a

1697
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 11: lot of different aspects. Not having Denzel Ward the past

1698
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:47,679
Speaker 11: couple of weeks when they gave up thirty something points

1699
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:49,599
Speaker 11: to the Rams. I like twenty nine to Denver both

1700
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:52,720
Speaker 11: on the road. That is the biggest thing because not

1701
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 11: only is that your number one corner, who I personally

1702
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:57,679
Speaker 11: think is playing better than almost anybody in the NFL

1703
01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 11: this season. You lose your number one corner, but what

1704
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 11: that also allows you to do. Because the Browns plays

1705
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:05,719
Speaker 11: so much man coverage, you can go trust him, trust

1706
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 11: Martin Emerson, trust Greg News some other corners to just

1707
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 11: go play one on one receivers and then add an

1708
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 11: extra guy to the pass rush that gives Miles Garrett

1709
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 11: a one on one that gives Zadarius Smith the one

1710
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:17,559
Speaker 11: on one. That gives whoever you want a one on one,

1711
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 11: or you out number them six to five, what you

1712
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 11: whatever it may be, you trust those guys to cover

1713
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 11: in the back end. And that's what happened last game

1714
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 11: because the Bears they scored seventeen points. One was a

1715
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 11: pick six, one was a touchdown where they got the

1716
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 11: ball at to one.

1717
01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 9: So you can put the offensive yeah, yeah, the point

1718
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 9: total in that one, yeah for sure.

1719
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 11: Yeah, And then you look at some of the other

1720
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:43,400
Speaker 11: the road games, the Browns have allowed a lot of

1721
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 11: points and the Indie game. Indy had a really really

1722
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 11: good offensive game. The Steelers game, they scored twelve offensive points. Like,

1723
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 11: there are some games where I don't think. I don't

1724
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:55,799
Speaker 11: think the numbers do it justice yet. The two defensive

1725
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 11: touchdowns for the Steelers pretty crazy.

1726
01:20:57,320 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 9: But Steelers are not a good team. The Steelers are

1727
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 9: not a good team. What we saw them here and

1728
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:04,599
Speaker 9: they got blasted their yeah, smoking mirrors right there.

1729
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:06,519
Speaker 10: But sorry to interrupt, Like, no.

1730
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 11: I could not agree more, could not agree more. But yeah,

1731
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 11: I think Denzel Ward missing the past couple games has

1732
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 11: been the biggest issue. But it's a very real thing.

1733
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:18,879
Speaker 11: Having home field advantage, whether it's the noise, the fans,

1734
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 11: the comfort of playing at home. It's a very real thing.

1735
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 11: And that's why I think I've told a lot of

1736
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:26,719
Speaker 11: people this. You never know what's gonna happen with the AFC.

1737
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 11: This year. It is as open as ever. There is

1738
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 11: not one team that separates themselves from the rest. I

1739
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 11: think it'd be a stretch to say the Browns win

1740
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:36,680
Speaker 11: the AFC North, but they make the playoffs of the

1741
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 11: wild card, getting that five seed instead of a six

1742
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 11: or seven. Who knows, maybe maybe AFC Championship game rules around.

1743
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 11: You're playing good football, and so are the six seed

1744
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:48,799
Speaker 11: Houston Texans, or so are the seven seed Buffalo Bills.

1745
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 11: You're gonna host them, so who knows. It's an important thing.

1746
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 11: But as for the road defense, I think it's a

1747
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:56,799
Speaker 11: couple of things. The comfort, for sure, and the fans,

1748
01:21:57,120 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 11: but the perfect storm in a lot of those road games,

1749
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 11: for sure.

1750
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 9: Max Lobe has a podcast about the Cleveland Browns. It's

1751
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:07,439
Speaker 9: called The Dog Check on the Believed Network. Max, you

1752
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:11,120
Speaker 9: just brought him up, but we're very familiar with Miles Garrett.

1753
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:12,680
Speaker 9: He played just up the road in Texas, A and

1754
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:16,719
Speaker 9: m He is a dominant force. Have you seen anything

1755
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:19,920
Speaker 9: growth wise out of him this season or is just

1756
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 9: more of the same, more of the excellence that's been

1757
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:24,480
Speaker 9: happening over the last five, six, seven years.

1758
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:28,320
Speaker 11: I think maturity has come a really really long way

1759
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 11: with him. I think especially the past couple weeks. He

1760
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 11: hasn't had a sack in like three weeks, and it's

1761
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:36,320
Speaker 11: partially because they're just giving him so much attention, right,

1762
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 11: double teams, whatever it may be. But growth wise, maturity

1763
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 11: doing different things defensively too. He's been a really really

1764
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:46,880
Speaker 11: good part of his run defense, which is one of

1765
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:50,960
Speaker 11: the best in the NFL. He is understanding his role

1766
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 11: and letting the guys around him go make plays. And

1767
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:55,880
Speaker 11: I think if you ask a lot of Browns fans

1768
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 11: who's been the best defensive player in the past, like

1769
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:01,599
Speaker 11: three four weeks, Miles Garrett would not be the first

1770
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 11: name that came to their mind. He may not even

1771
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 11: the second name that came to their mind. I think

1772
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:08,559
Speaker 11: him doing that, being able to make plays draw attention

1773
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 11: and just you know, not hearing a pete I think

1774
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:13,800
Speaker 11: is a huge thing. And I think you know just

1775
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 11: what he does and how much attention he brings to

1776
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 11: one side of the offensive line or a defense or

1777
01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 11: an offensive game plan. That's another huge thing. And now

1778
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:25,879
Speaker 11: that Browns actually have other players like Dalvin Tomlinson, Jeremiah

1779
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:29,599
Speaker 11: Hushu Koramoa, a Zadarius Smith that could actually go make

1780
01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 11: plays if you do double team him, that's been a

1781
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 11: huge difference I've noticed too.

1782
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 10: On the offensive side of the ball.

1783
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:39,559
Speaker 9: You told us about some of those weapons, and Marii Cooper,

1784
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 9: everybody knows about him, David and Joku is doing phenomenal things.

1785
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:46,640
Speaker 9: He's actually got eight more catches than does Cooper. But

1786
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:50,599
Speaker 9: these guys can hit you in a lot of different ways.

1787
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:54,559
Speaker 9: And is Blacko just unlocking all that being the pure passer,

1788
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:56,559
Speaker 9: being the guy that is able to do those things,

1789
01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 9: is he just kind of unlocked some of what was

1790
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 9: maybe lacking earlier the season.

1791
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:03,439
Speaker 11: I think yes. I think in terms of pure passing,

1792
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 11: he has been definitely better than you know, dtr or PJ. Walker,

1793
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 11: probably better than Watson though, And yes, I think he's

1794
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:14,720
Speaker 11: unlocking him and having a better passer who's more comfortable

1795
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:17,959
Speaker 11: is a good thing, and that's probably helping the receivers.

1796
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,559
Speaker 11: But I honestly think it's a volume thing like the

1797
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:22,400
Speaker 11: past three weeks, the Browns have thrown the ball more

1798
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 11: than they ever have at any point in the season.

1799
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:27,559
Speaker 11: And again, I think that's partially because your best run

1800
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 11: blocking offensive linemen are hurt. It's partially because you don't

1801
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 11: have Nick Chubb. But they haven't had Nick Chubb all year.

1802
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:35,479
Speaker 11: I think they realize what their strengths are Offensively. I

1803
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:37,360
Speaker 11: think they realize Blacko can throw the ball. I think

1804
01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 11: they're starting to realize very few people on Planet Earth

1805
01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 11: can cover David and Joku. I think they know they

1806
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 11: have a good receiver and Mark Cooper alies and more

1807
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 11: like two weeks ago, Mark Cooper had fourteen targets. I

1808
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 11: believe that was the season high for any Browns player.

1809
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 11: David Djoko had double digit targets last week, like that

1810
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:57,760
Speaker 11: didn't happen when they would play with Shaun Watson. And

1811
01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:00,719
Speaker 11: I think it's very much a playing your stre because

1812
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 11: the reality of the situation for the Browns offenses, they're

1813
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 11: better offensively in the pass game than they are in

1814
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:08,360
Speaker 11: the run game. Again, I think that's a credit to

1815
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 11: the offensive staffs, the fans key for seeing that and

1816
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:13,439
Speaker 11: realizing that. But as much as I want to say

1817
01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:16,560
Speaker 11: Flacco has unlocked everybody. I think it's a volume.

1818
01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:19,559
Speaker 10: Thing run defense or should be run game.

1819
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:21,280
Speaker 9: Is it just if they scaled back because of all

1820
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:22,720
Speaker 9: the passing, like you're talking about.

1821
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:26,799
Speaker 11: They've scaled back, But it's interesting they're still like moderately efficient,

1822
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 11: like they've they've been efficient last week against the Bears,

1823
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:32,280
Speaker 11: who I think were the second best run defense in

1824
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 11: the second half of the season up until that point,

1825
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:36,760
Speaker 11: like they were. They're fine, Like they're efficient, but they

1826
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 11: knew the advantage they had in pass games. They threw

1827
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 11: the ball more. I think again, it's very much playing

1828
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 11: to your strengths, and I don't think the fans he

1829
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:47,960
Speaker 11: will ever truly abandon the run game, but he's gotten

1830
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 11: away with it with the quick passes. The screen game

1831
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 11: has been a lot more prevalent in the past couple

1832
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:55,719
Speaker 11: of weeks. He's gotten away from it, but it's still

1833
01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:58,960
Speaker 11: finding ways to win early downs and occasionally what the

1834
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 11: Browns will do is just go play action deep shot

1835
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:03,679
Speaker 11: off first down just to keep everybody on their toes.

1836
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:06,559
Speaker 11: It's honestly worked more times than not. So it's it's

1837
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:09,800
Speaker 11: a really really refreshing thing to see Stefanski and that

1838
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:12,599
Speaker 11: offense changing the identity a little bit, but the run

1839
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:15,200
Speaker 11: game has totally scaled back. I don't know if it's

1840
01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 11: they realize they just can't do it as effectively with

1841
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:21,760
Speaker 11: Nick Chubb. I do think they're still moderately efficient or

1842
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:23,720
Speaker 11: the past couple weeks they've just had better matchups in

1843
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:25,559
Speaker 11: the pass game. But it has certainly scaled back and

1844
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:26,760
Speaker 11: it's been noticeable for sure.

1845
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 9: Max Lobe of the dog Check podcast on the Believe

1846
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 9: Network is with us in Max, Deshaun Watson didn't get

1847
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 9: to play too much this season, and now Joe Flacco

1848
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 9: signed for another year, looks to be a pretty darn

1849
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:43,200
Speaker 9: good backup next season. But he's the guy going right now,

1850
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 9: what do you make of the future with Deshaun Watson?

1851
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 10: What's what's happened there?

1852
01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 11: I don't think the Browns will look past Watson like

1853
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:52,639
Speaker 11: I think Watson is undoubtedly in the building the guy.

1854
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 11: It's interesting to see the timing of all this because

1855
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 11: that Ravens game, the last game he played this season,

1856
01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:03,639
Speaker 11: was what fourteen for fourteen the second half, multiple touchdowns.

1857
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 11: It was the best half football he's played all year

1858
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:08,760
Speaker 11: against probably the best defense in the NFL, and it

1859
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:11,720
Speaker 11: kind of stinks as you thought, well, maybe everything's clicking

1860
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:14,720
Speaker 11: and then he gets hurt. So it seems like you

1861
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 11: can make a lot of excuses for Deshaun Watson's play

1862
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 11: on the field, and at some point you got to

1863
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:22,920
Speaker 11: ask yourself when do we stop making excuses? But it's

1864
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:24,799
Speaker 11: tough to see, like he hasn't had a full offseason

1865
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:28,120
Speaker 11: plus a season. He's battling the shoulder injury all year long,

1866
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:30,840
Speaker 11: and obviously two years ago is its own was his

1867
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:33,439
Speaker 11: own entity with him coming back and no offseason all

1868
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:35,600
Speaker 11: that stuff. But I think it would be hard for

1869
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:37,840
Speaker 11: the Browns to just look past him because he does

1870
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:40,679
Speaker 11: provide you a lot. He provides you with not only

1871
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:43,800
Speaker 11: a good arm experienced quarterback at this point in his

1872
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:46,479
Speaker 11: career two, but he can extend plays, He can contribute

1873
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:49,280
Speaker 11: in the quarterback run game, and I think this offense,

1874
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:52,920
Speaker 11: regardless of whose quarterback, is going to be significantly better

1875
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:54,160
Speaker 11: when you had Nick chubbed the mix.

1876
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:56,720
Speaker 9: Yeah, how much have you missed or how much of

1877
01:27:56,760 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 9: the Browns missed him Max a lot.

1878
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:03,840
Speaker 11: I really do find it interesting though, like they run

1879
01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:06,639
Speaker 11: the ball less noticeably less, especially with Flacco, but when

1880
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 11: you look at the efficiency numbers, they're not that, Like

1881
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 11: it's it's not like Nick Chubb. Losing Nick Chubb has

1882
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:16,840
Speaker 11: completely ruined the run game, which would happen with a

1883
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:19,519
Speaker 11: lot of teams, like like if the Giants saw Saquon Barkley,

1884
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:23,000
Speaker 11: Like the run game is scratched. That doesn't happen with

1885
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:26,559
Speaker 11: the Browns, or at least it hasn't. But it's been huge.

1886
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 11: I think he's really the emotional leader, Like he's the

1887
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:30,320
Speaker 11: guy that's been there. He's the guy that can really

1888
01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 11: go make plays whenever the ball is in his hands.

1889
01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:34,960
Speaker 11: But again, now you have guys like David and Joku

1890
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 11: doing that. Now you have guys like Amari Cooper doing that.

1891
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:39,519
Speaker 11: So I would be really fascinating to see what the

1892
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:42,840
Speaker 11: offense would look like with Flacco if they had Chubb.

1893
01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:46,639
Speaker 11: But it's it's hard to put into words the impact

1894
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:49,719
Speaker 11: that Chubb has on the field. Like you could short

1895
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 11: yardage your third and medium, you can stack a box

1896
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:54,600
Speaker 11: against the Browns and now you couldn't do that with

1897
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:58,000
Speaker 11: Nick Chub, or sorry, you can't stack a box. Now

1898
01:28:58,240 --> 01:28:59,680
Speaker 11: you had to do that with Nick Chubb. It gives

1899
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:02,800
Speaker 11: people ones on the sideline with Mary Cooper and Elijamore.

1900
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:05,839
Speaker 11: So it's it's a lot of hypotheticals, but definitely definitely

1901
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:06,639
Speaker 11: missed for sure.

1902
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:10,120
Speaker 9: Last question for you, Max Lobe of The Dog Check

1903
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:13,720
Speaker 9: on Believe Network of podcasts, how much fun has this

1904
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:16,800
Speaker 9: team been to cover this season? Here we are on

1905
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 9: the verge of Christmas, they're in the thick of the

1906
01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:23,200
Speaker 9: playoff race, and like we mentioned, off the top, four

1907
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:25,639
Speaker 9: different starting quarterbacks have all won a game.

1908
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:28,200
Speaker 10: How much fun is this? Just looking back at what

1909
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:29,280
Speaker 10: you've been able to cover this.

1910
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:32,759
Speaker 11: Year, It's been It's been incredible, and I've been fortunate

1911
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:34,280
Speaker 11: enough to go to a couple of games. So I

1912
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:37,400
Speaker 11: was at the Tennessee game, which which probably Watson's best

1913
01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 11: game outside of the Baltimore game, and that atmosphere, the

1914
01:29:41,479 --> 01:29:44,320
Speaker 11: Miles Garrett of three sacks. That game, like the atmosphere

1915
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:46,519
Speaker 11: of the Dog Pound is a little bit different. I

1916
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:48,920
Speaker 11: was at the Arizona game, like you beat up on

1917
01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:52,120
Speaker 11: that team, but best defensive game they've had this year.

1918
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:54,280
Speaker 11: They allowed like a yard to play. It was ridiculous.

1919
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 11: The atmosphere is different there too, But the really really

1920
01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:03,200
Speaker 11: cool moment I had, especially just as somebody who watches football,

1921
01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:05,640
Speaker 11: I was at the forty nine Ers game. Watching what

1922
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:10,040
Speaker 11: they did the forty nine ers, that ridiculous win. PJ

1923
01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:14,760
Speaker 11: Walker coming in starting quarterback on short notice, Like it's

1924
01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 11: been unbelievable. It's so much fun. And the reality is

1925
01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:20,120
Speaker 11: that they win another game or two, there probably will

1926
01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:24,479
Speaker 11: be in the playoffs and Cleveland Brown's playoff football. I'm

1927
01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:27,040
Speaker 11: somebody who's not from Cleveland. I'm from Massachusetts, so I've

1928
01:30:27,040 --> 01:30:29,080
Speaker 11: only been out here since I went to college out

1929
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:35,160
Speaker 11: John Carroll. It's been this entity that's been cursed. It's

1930
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:38,400
Speaker 11: been this entity that's been bad and just all over

1931
01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:40,640
Speaker 11: the place. There's nothing ever good. Obviously you have the

1932
01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:43,800
Speaker 11: playoff game against the Chiefs and all of that. You

1933
01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:47,000
Speaker 11: missed the playoffs past couple of years. There's hope and

1934
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 11: there it just feels different. Like I was talking about

1935
01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:51,519
Speaker 11: it with a couple of my friends that hail Mary

1936
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:57,320
Speaker 11: to Darnell Mooney, that is a pass that somebody would

1937
01:30:57,400 --> 01:30:59,400
Speaker 11: catch against the Cleveland Browns, Like, that's a play that

1938
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:02,400
Speaker 11: would be made to lose the Cleveland Browns a game.

1939
01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:04,960
Speaker 11: When I think back, just as a fan, like six

1940
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:07,439
Speaker 11: or seven years ago, that field goal that the Browns

1941
01:31:07,479 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 11: had to win the game against Baltimore moderately really reasonable

1942
01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:14,200
Speaker 11: field goal to win the game Division game against Baltimore

1943
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:16,760
Speaker 11: blocked and returned for a touchdown at the end of

1944
01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:19,320
Speaker 11: regulation in the Ravens way, Like, that's the type of

1945
01:31:19,360 --> 01:31:22,320
Speaker 11: play that I see happening to the Cleveland Browns as

1946
01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:25,000
Speaker 11: a fan. I'm like, wow, you know, maybe this franchise

1947
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:27,559
Speaker 11: is cursed. Then they've lost so many people to injury

1948
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:30,880
Speaker 11: this year. You still ask the question, But that that

1949
01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:33,280
Speaker 11: hail Mary, Like, there's just something weird about it. I

1950
01:31:33,320 --> 01:31:36,080
Speaker 11: can't describe it, like that's a play that would get

1951
01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:38,519
Speaker 11: made against the Browns. The balls right here, like literally

1952
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:41,160
Speaker 11: in his hands he drops it. It just something something

1953
01:31:41,160 --> 01:31:42,840
Speaker 11: feels a little bit different. I don't know what it is,

1954
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:43,599
Speaker 11: just feels different.

1955
01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:47,280
Speaker 9: Well, it's been remarkable because Texans fans have obviously kept

1956
01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:49,759
Speaker 9: their eyes on what the Browns have been doing, because

1957
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:52,040
Speaker 9: the Texans have the Browns draft pick. They traded their's

1958
01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:56,080
Speaker 9: ye a way to Arizona in return for Will Anderson,

1959
01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:59,680
Speaker 9: and like I said at the beginning, the Browns just

1960
01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:01,000
Speaker 9: keep wuning.

1961
01:32:01,680 --> 01:32:01,960
Speaker 11: Yep.

1962
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:05,920
Speaker 9: It's very, very frustrating, but you do have to tip

1963
01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:08,880
Speaker 9: your cap because this is a titanic game for both

1964
01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:09,960
Speaker 9: teams this weekend.

1965
01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:11,360
Speaker 10: I mean there's a.

1966
01:32:11,320 --> 01:32:13,200
Speaker 9: Lot riding on it. For the Texans, there are two

1967
01:32:13,240 --> 01:32:17,439
Speaker 9: games over five hundred. They've beaten the Bengals, yet because

1968
01:32:17,479 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 9: of the weird tiebreaker system in the NFL, they're they're

1969
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:21,840
Speaker 9: looking up at the Bengals even though they have the

1970
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:24,200
Speaker 9: same record and a better record in the division, a

1971
01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:25,960
Speaker 9: better record in the conference than Cincinnati.

1972
01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:27,200
Speaker 10: So this is a good one.

1973
01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:29,800
Speaker 9: They need to get the Cleveland Browns, and we appreciate

1974
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:33,240
Speaker 9: your insight, Max Lobe. You tell Eric Metcalf that he's

1975
01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:36,160
Speaker 9: got a big fan. Ten year old Andy Doherty. That's

1976
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:39,120
Speaker 9: me was a big big Eric Metcalf back in the day.

1977
01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:42,360
Speaker 9: He was like a bead of mercury. It was tough

1978
01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:45,400
Speaker 9: to get, it's tough to tackle, and you guys got

1979
01:32:45,400 --> 01:32:46,400
Speaker 9: a great thing going there.

1980
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:48,960
Speaker 11: Yeah, thank you so much for having me on it,

1981
01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:51,640
Speaker 11: and Drew, I appreciate a big time. I am so

1982
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:54,080
Speaker 11: looking forward to this game, and I was thinking about

1983
01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:56,759
Speaker 11: it like you. You look at like a wild card

1984
01:32:56,800 --> 01:33:01,000
Speaker 11: game and you title it must win week whatever. This

1985
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:04,680
Speaker 11: is sixteen. Like for the Browns, obviously it's a must win.

1986
01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:06,400
Speaker 11: And if they do win, like I said, they're essentially

1987
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:08,200
Speaker 11: in the playoffs, which is crazy to think about. Yeah,

1988
01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:10,519
Speaker 11: but if you're the taxis, like you look at the

1989
01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:14,200
Speaker 11: other games this week, like since he has Pittsburgh, Buffalo

1990
01:33:14,240 --> 01:33:17,400
Speaker 11: has the Chargers, Like looking at that, it is magnified

1991
01:33:17,439 --> 01:33:19,280
Speaker 11: even more, like you don't want to lose a leg

1992
01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:22,000
Speaker 11: right now, especially you know INDI's playing good football too,

1993
01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:24,679
Speaker 11: Like it's it's pretty crazy, and it's you know, as

1994
01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:27,040
Speaker 11: crazy as it sounds that the Vision is still up

1995
01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:31,000
Speaker 11: for grabs too sure, and the Daguars are I don't know.

1996
01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:34,960
Speaker 9: I mean their quarterback is concuss like like the Texans back.

1997
01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:38,080
Speaker 9: So we'll see about Stroud whether he plays or not

1998
01:33:38,120 --> 01:33:40,599
Speaker 9: this week. But you know, this feels I'm a little

1999
01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:42,799
Speaker 9: older than you, but this feels like the late eighties

2000
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:46,440
Speaker 9: and the early nineties when the Oilers and the Browns

2001
01:33:46,640 --> 01:33:49,120
Speaker 9: were you know, they'd have some good teams that played

2002
01:33:49,160 --> 01:33:51,640
Speaker 9: some meaningful football. A lot of times it was up

2003
01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:55,120
Speaker 9: in the snow in Cleveland at at Missagna. But this

2004
01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:59,200
Speaker 9: is fun. Houston and Cleveland squared off for a big

2005
01:33:59,240 --> 01:34:02,479
Speaker 9: one on Christmas eve Day. Max Lobe, thank you so

2006
01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:04,840
Speaker 9: much for the time. We will follow your work and

2007
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:09,120
Speaker 9: you can check out Max on Twitter at lobes Leads.

2008
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:13,760
Speaker 9: That's Loe B s l e A d s at

2009
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:17,759
Speaker 9: lobes Leads. He's Max Lobe of the Believe Network Believe

2010
01:34:17,800 --> 01:34:18,679
Speaker 9: Podcast Network.

2011
01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:22,120
Speaker 1: Drew killing It got me hot, Enemy Sidelines, Max Lobe

2012
01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:25,680
Speaker 1: giving us the giving us the skinny on the Browns,

2013
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:28,400
Speaker 1: and that's always hopeful for me. I'm I got my

2014
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:30,759
Speaker 1: know your folk coming out hopefully tonight, maybe in the morning.

2015
01:34:31,280 --> 01:34:34,120
Speaker 1: And I always get a little nugget that I like

2016
01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:36,600
Speaker 1: to use from all the interviews that Drew did and

2017
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:39,760
Speaker 1: obviously before him, Dpcity, who we miss deep text us

2018
01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:41,040
Speaker 1: last night. She's gonna be at the game, so it's

2019
01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:44,200
Speaker 1: gonna be really cool to see her on Saturday. And

2020
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:47,559
Speaker 1: hopefully we're gonna excuse me Sunday Saturday. See, I got

2021
01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:50,800
Speaker 1: Christmas Eve and Saturday like all in my head, but

2022
01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:53,760
Speaker 1: Christmas Eve is actually Sunday. Don't want to show up

2023
01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:55,639
Speaker 1: at Saturday. I don't really know what's going on Saturday,

2024
01:34:55,640 --> 01:35:00,599
Speaker 1: but Sunday, Christmas Eve Day noon kick against the leveland Browns.

2025
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:03,400
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that tomorrow with the general right here

2026
01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:06,639
Speaker 1: on Texans All Access. We will also have our Friday

2027
01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:09,800
Speaker 1: All Access. We'll have Charles Davis, will have Demico Ryans on.

2028
01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:12,479
Speaker 1: We have my Keys to the Game, my predictions for

2029
01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:16,000
Speaker 1: all the games happening over this weekend, and it's going

2030
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:19,000
Speaker 1: to be a big, big weekend. A lot of games

2031
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:21,280
Speaker 1: are going to have influence on the Texans, and the

2032
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:24,240
Speaker 1: Texans result will have influence throughout the league as well,

2033
01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:27,400
Speaker 1: both AFC and NFC, well mostly AFC, but you get

2034
01:35:27,439 --> 01:35:29,360
Speaker 1: the point. So a big thanks to all those people

2035
01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:32,680
Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier, Nick Casario, Mark Vandermir, Drew Doherty, to

2036
01:35:33,320 --> 01:35:36,960
Speaker 1: Shelby Koppits, to Robert Woods, to Kevin Kugler, Max Loebe,

2037
01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:39,680
Speaker 1: to all my guys back at Sports Radio six ten.

2038
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:41,679
Speaker 1: Thank you so much everybody out there listening. You guys

2039
01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:43,720
Speaker 1: are the very very best. Thank you so much. We'll

2040
01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:46,200
Speaker 1: see you tomorrow and as always, go Texans,