1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host, 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wire to Hunt podcast. I'm 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan, and this episode number one seventy 5 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: and today in the show, we're back with another RUT 6 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: Radio episode in which we're getting real time updates from 7 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: hunters across the country on current dear behavior, activity and 8 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: the tactics that are working right now. All right, welcome 9 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: to the Wire to Hunt podcast, brought to you by 10 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: Sitka Gear, and we're back today with this week's installment 11 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: of our RUT Radio series. And for those new to 12 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: the show, each week during the your hunting season, we're 13 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: going to be publishing a new RUT Radio episode in 14 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: which we're checking in with deer hunters across the country 15 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: for real time updates on what's going on in the field, 16 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: how dear behaving, what kind of activity and conditions we're seeing, 17 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: and what tactics are aren't working right now. So it 18 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: is Monday, September two thousand and seventeen as we're recording 19 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: this and with me as our producer and the host 20 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: of RUT Radio, Spencer new Hearth and Spencer tell me this, 21 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: how pumped are you for your hunt that's coming up 22 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: here in like a day or two in South Dakota. 23 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: I am very excited, um. And one of the big 24 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: reasons because it got pushed back. I had planned to 25 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: go out for our opener, which was on Saturday, but 26 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: the weather just looked pretty nasty for what I was 27 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: looking to do. And I was gonna backpack in and 28 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: I was gonna be tenting it and staying out there 29 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: for like a week. But um, a lot of rain 30 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: and a lot of wind and cool or temperatures kept 31 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: me from going out there. So I'm gonna take off 32 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: after we finished recording. But in some areas out there, 33 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: like a half hour from where I plan to be hunting, 34 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: they were getting snow yesterday and I think there's too 35 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: many white tail hunters right now that are hunting and 36 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: snow and and so I decided I didn't want to 37 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: be either. I'm not a badass like Dan Johnson. So yeah, exactly, 38 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: that's good. That's good. Um. So, so this sounds like 39 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: a pretty awesome hunt, the backpacking in and everything. What 40 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:33,839 Speaker 1: are the conditions going to be? Like? You know now 41 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: that you you waited out the worst of the weather. 42 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: What are you expecting to have over the course of 43 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: this week hunt? It is pretty mild. Um When I 44 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: talked to some of the other people in the podcast, 45 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: there's a couple extremes of cold and hot across the 46 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: country right now, but this will be pretty mild and 47 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 1: highs in like the low seventies, lows in the forties. 48 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: Um So, it'll be good um weather for the end 49 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: of September. Um at least as good as you could 50 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: ask for this time of year. Cool and do you 51 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: We didn't really talk about this last week when on 52 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: Wired Hunt, But what's like your goal? Are you? You know? 53 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: Are are you just gonna shoot the first buck you 54 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: can get a shot at, or are you looking for 55 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: a certain age or type or anything like that? Um So? 56 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: In South Dakota we are pretty liberal with our deer tags. 57 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: Um So, I can hunt on the east side of 58 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: the river and the west side of the river with 59 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: an archery tag. Now, I don't get to the west 60 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: very often, and this could very well be my only 61 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: trip out there this year. And with that, this is 62 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: a piece of ground never hunted before, I've never seen 63 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: in person. Even so, I will likely not be picky. 64 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: I don't have very high standards or very high expectations. 65 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: So over two and a half year old comes by, um, 66 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: I will definitely take him. Yeah, well, I'm at a 67 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: public land hunt this kind of deal, um, plus it 68 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: being a brand new place. I think, you know, being 69 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: able to shoot a two and a half year old 70 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: or old or anything like that is quite an achievement. 71 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: So I'd be I'd be right there with you yet 72 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: now in in your hunt in Montana, Mark, this feels 73 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: kind of similar because it's hunting white tails and what's 74 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: you know typically thought of this me with your country, 75 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: you probably felt a similar sense of urgency as me 76 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,839 Speaker 1: in that you're there for a short period of time, 77 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: and so you would be a little more aggressive. And 78 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: with that, were you hunting mornings at all when you 79 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: were there? And if still, what did you see? Yeah, 80 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: that's a good question, um, because you know, usually nine 81 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: percent of the time I don't hunt mornings in the 82 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: early season. But just like you mentioned, because of the 83 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: very short amount of time I had, um, I decided, 84 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: yeah I was going to hunt mornings. So I saw 85 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: pretty good, pretty good movement. Um, you know, I got 86 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: in there I tried to make sure I was in 87 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: there between a half an hour and an hour before daylight, um, 88 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: just to make sure that, you know, the chances of 89 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: spooking something on my way in were as low as possible, 90 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: and I tried to make sure that my route in 91 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: there wasn't going to be going close to food sources. 92 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 1: So as I think I achieved that because a couple 93 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: of the mornings that I was in this little good 94 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: piece of landlocked public, I found I saw a lot 95 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: of activity that lasted for probably at least an hour 96 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: half after daylight for that first like you know, ninety 97 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: minutes of daylight, a lot of deer moving through, including 98 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: you know, potentially mature bucks. I mean like two to 99 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: three year old type bucks. UM. I don't think I 100 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: ever saw anything older than three, but there were a 101 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: couple of those like bucks. I was like, oh, that 102 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: could be a three year old um that we're rolling through, 103 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: you know, an hour after daylight, right through you know 104 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: the relatively secluded but but somewhat open too. So I 105 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: think if you've got a situation like that, you could 106 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: be seeing that movement. And this was the conditions that 107 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: were present, you know, were super hot it was like 108 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: degree highs so in the morning, you know, that was 109 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: the coolest part of the day. Um, but we're still 110 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: not talking really cold. I mean it was probably in 111 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: the upper sixties or something, you know, early in the morning. Um, 112 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: And we did see good, good activity, So it might 113 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: be it might be similar for you there in South Dakota. 114 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: But I know, you know, I do think if I 115 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 1: had continued to do that day after day after day 116 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: after day for like seven days or something, I imagine 117 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: that pressure would have changed things. Eventually I would have 118 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: aren't educating deer getting in and out. Um. But for 119 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 1: like the four days that I did do that, Um, 120 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: it worked out. Okay, Well, that will definitely be a 121 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: unique fun part of this one, because, like you said, 122 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: that's not a typical setup that that guys who are 123 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: really into white tails will do at the end of September. 124 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: But I'm looking forward to those morning sids right now. Yeah. 125 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: It's it's nice to watch the world wake up, that's 126 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: for sure. So, UM, I know you've got a whole 127 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: slate of people were be hearing from from across the country, 128 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: but I kind of might if you're well, you host 129 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: the RUT Radio Spencer, so you can give me permission 130 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: or not whether or not you want to hear about this. 131 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: But are you interested in what's coming from Michigan because 132 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: our opening day comes up this weekend. UM, This Sunday, 133 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: October one is Opening Day in Michigan. So this will 134 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: be the last what Rut radio episode for people who 135 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: listen to before that. UM, do you have anyone from 136 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: Michigan already talking about what's coming? Or should I touch 137 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: on that? I don't have you one yet, So Mark, 138 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: you had permission to be our Michigan contact this week. 139 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: All right, Well, then here's what's coming down the road. 140 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: It's been really, really hot. We've had like crazy high 141 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: temperatures over the past week up until the mid nineties 142 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: even this past weekend, and that hot weather is continuing 143 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: through Wednesday, and then Wednesday the beginnings of a cool 144 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: front is hitting and we're gonna drop from like mid 145 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: to high eighties down into like the seventies on Wednesday 146 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: and then down to the low sixties at least for 147 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: me down in southern Michigan. UM, low sixties from Thursday 148 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: all the way through Monday. So that opening Day and Sunday, 149 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna have pretty decent temperatures. Looking it's looking like 150 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: highs only up until the mid sixties, so like twenty 151 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: degrees lower than it was, you know, just a couple 152 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: of days beforehand, um lows down into the forties. So 153 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be a good thing for bow 154 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: hunters out there. You know, in a perfect world, I 155 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: would have liked to see opening day, you know, open 156 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: up like the day after the front, not three or 157 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: four days after the front. But it's certainly better than 158 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: eight degrees. So I think Sunday is gonna be a 159 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: good day to be in the woods. Monday it's gonna 160 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: be um decent temperatures as well, but rain down by us. 161 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: And I've always believed that some light rain, scattered rain 162 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: can be really good for deer activity when you're in 163 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: an area that you know, maybe has a lot of 164 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: hunting pressure, like Michigan. For whatever reason, that just seems 165 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: to make dear, especially mature bucks from my experience, UM, 166 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: it seem to be a little more active and on 167 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: their feet. So I'm gonna be out there on Monday 168 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: as well. UM, and I'm stoked. I'm really excited to 169 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: get out. Well, what you talked about their mark. Sounds 170 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: a lot like what I heard this week from my context. 171 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: From north to south and east to west, it's all 172 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: been about the weather. And we start off with Trent 173 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: Segel and Kansas from Hartley and bow Hunter. Then we 174 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: go to Kentucky with Josh Smith of wildcaret Sense, and 175 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: then we have Levi miighting Or of Powder River Outfigures 176 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: in Montana. And we end with bowl more Tonic of 177 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: the Journal of Mountain Hunting in Pennsylvania, and they all 178 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: talked about the weather. Um, Kentucky, Kansas, Pennsylvania, it's been 179 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: a squirt lately. And then Montana is just at the 180 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: beginning of that front that we were talking about, um 181 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: where Levi talks about that colder weather making a big 182 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: difference in their dear activity. And uh, as far as 183 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: the other state, it's like Trent and Josh actually gave 184 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: you know, specific dates. They're looking at this cold front, 185 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: how it starts on Thursday in their areas, and they're 186 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: very excited for this weekend of haunting. Yeah, awesome, Well 187 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,599 Speaker 1: let's stop beating around the bush and and maybe we 188 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: should get right to it. Huh, we'll do. I'll talk 189 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: to you next week. Mark sounds good good luck in 190 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: South Dakota. Before we get to our for this update, though, 191 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: let's pause for a moment to thank our sponsors at 192 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: Sitky Gear and for this week's sick of Story, we're 193 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: joined by SITKA Ambassador Jess de Lorenzo, who tells us 194 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: about punching her archery antalope tag for the second straight year. 195 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: So this year I went out to Montana again my 196 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: good friend Amanda Caldwell, and we we're trying for two 197 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: years in a row to get our archery analope tags punched, 198 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 1: and we headed out together and camped out some nights. 199 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: We had lots of from of stocks, some unsuccessful, some 200 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: completely interrupted by things out of our control. One time 201 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: I was stalking, I heard with a coyote and I 202 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: didn't even know about it, and we both busted them 203 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: at the same time. UM, and we continued to put 204 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: on stalk after stalk after stalk, and finally we found 205 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: a really great spot where we could kind of inch 206 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: up along the side of a field with some overgrown grass. UM. 207 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: Amanda was doing ranges for me, and as soon as 208 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: the biggest buck out on the end, she gave me 209 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: a range and he was at seven yards. I settled 210 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: my pen and we were able to get a good 211 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: shot off on him. Um. Once we got him back 212 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: and feel dressed and all that, we spent the rest 213 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: of the time and trying to get Amanda one as well. 214 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: Unfortunately we just didn't have enough time. So hopefully maybe 215 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: next year we'll go out for our third annual Girls 216 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: Hunt and I get her tag punch together. So it 217 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: was really nice to be able to do it two 218 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: times in a row. She was wearing sick a sub 219 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: alpine women's big gear. If you'd like to create a 220 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: sick of story of your own, where to learn more 221 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 1: about Sita's technical hunting apparel, visit sitka gear dot com. 222 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 1: Are and joining us on the line first this week 223 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: is Trent Siegel of Kansas, a host of Heartland bow 224 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: Hunter Now Trent in Kansas. What would you say the 225 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: bucket activity is men on a scale of one to ten? Lately, 226 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: this past week's been pretty low. I'd say like the tour, 227 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: it's been extremely hot, ninety degree tempts and beans are 228 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: starting to change, and so it's just cameras that slowed down. 229 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: It's it's hasn't been very good for daylight activity, that's 230 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: for sure. And so with that heat wave you guys 231 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: have had, do you think the deer have been changing 232 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: patterns where they're on the same patterns, they're just moving 233 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:54,479 Speaker 1: in darkmore. Yeah. I think it's a combination of both. Um, 234 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: I think some of it is the change in the 235 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: lengths of the day is causing them to change patterns 236 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: a little bit. But definitely the heat we've had the 237 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: low temperatures in the upper seventies this past week and 238 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 1: the highs and then up in the upper nineties, So 239 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 1: it's definitely caused them to to be moving a lot 240 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: more at night. All right, Well, we're going to back 241 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 1: it up a little bit here. I know Kansas Head 242 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: an unusually early opener this year, like September eleven. Now, 243 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: did you get a chance to take advantage of that 244 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: down there? And if still, what was the dear activity 245 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: like then? Yeah. I didn't personally get out in hunt 246 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: myself that first week. I have been running some cameras 247 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: and and kept scouting, and um, it was warm again, 248 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: it was like upper eighties temperatures that opening week, and 249 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: I did have a couple of nice bucks on camera 250 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: that opening week right at last light light last week, 251 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: a light where probably could have hunted him. But um, 252 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 1: again it's just I don't know. There's something about hunting 253 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: the rut in Kansas that Uh, I kind of missed 254 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: it last year, shooting a buck in early October and 255 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: trying to hold out a little bit, um to get 256 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: out there and see that road activity against something that 257 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: we all dream of and and look forward to all 258 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: year long. We just talked about trail cameras there for 259 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: a little bit. Um, where are your cameras placed at 260 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: right now? And are those gonna start changing where you 261 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: put them as soon as we had October here? Yeah, 262 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: So throughout the summer I've had him mostly on silly 263 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: beans and mineral sites. Um. But just this last week 264 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: with the heat, they flowed down so much and the 265 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: beans are changing here. Um, they're starting to cut corn 266 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: of I've been moving actually moved a bunch today on 267 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: scrapes and mock scrapes. Uh. Starting to see a lot 268 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: more of that activity um here in the last week 269 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: or so, We're bucks are laying out scrapes and seeing 270 00:13:55,120 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: some rubs show up. So um, that's definitely where I started, folks, 271 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: and my cameras for the next month a month and 272 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: a half basically and try to figure out some patterns 273 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: on them. Now, what does an early season set up 274 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,599 Speaker 1: look like for you, Trent hunting in Kansas at the 275 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: end of September. Well, it's for me, it's weather de 276 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: tendant and and kind of camera detend And I mean 277 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: I really rely on my trail cameras to to scout 278 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: for me. So, um, if they're telling me that, you know, 279 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: some deer using an area or hitting a scrape line 280 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: or something like that at least September. UM, and there's 281 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: a deer that I want to hunt and it's it's 282 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: out there, and then definitely I'll go after it. Um. 283 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: Next week, we do have a big weather front coming 284 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: in tomorrow and I uh, the high today is like 285 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: ninety here and then the high tuesdays like or something 286 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: like that. So huge weather fronts coming. Um. I have 287 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: set some stands and and some Haybay all winds up 288 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: the past couple of days, getting ready to to maybe 289 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: make some moves on some nucks next week if if 290 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: everything works out, so probably check some cameras on Wednesday 291 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: midday and see see what's going on and maybe trying 292 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: to get out late next week with with those weather 293 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: fronts coming, well, it sounds like you're out to miss 294 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: it going forward. But what would you say, the dear, 295 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: activ is going to be on a scale of one 296 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: to tend in Kansas over this next week or so. 297 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be good personally. I mean, with 298 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: it being so bad the past week, I think it 299 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: can only get better. I think it's gonna be like 300 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: a seven or eight with the cooler attempts. I think 301 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: they're gonna really flip the switch from this past week 302 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: and and be be moving a lot and in dayline 303 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: with corn fields of being cuts. So that's always a 304 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: good um good place to get out there right after 305 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: that corn comes out, dear trying to tick that what 306 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: the combine missed. So it's I think it's gonna be 307 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: really good. Well, good luck going forward, Trent, and I 308 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: know that you're deadly down the no matter what time 309 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: of year it is. Look forward to hearing from you. 310 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: To you very much. That's you're good to talk to 311 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: you too, man. And joining us on the line next 312 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: is Josh Smith, the founder of wildcaret Since now Joshing 313 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: and Tucky, what would you say the dear. Activity has 314 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: been on a scale of one to ten lately. Well, 315 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: if you had to average um UM that group of time, 316 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: I'd say it's probably been a five. But we've had 317 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: significant activity coming in the last hour and a half 318 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: or two hours of daylight, and that's pretty much where 319 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: all of it it has taken place. Um. It's been like 320 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: excruciatingly hot to be sitting in the stands UM and 321 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: I can't imagine what it would be like to be 322 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: out there covered with fur. So I don't think there's 323 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: been a lot of movement going on, definitely not in 324 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: our experience, UM, in the earlier hours of the day. Uh, 325 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: nothing until you know, evening hours. So that movement that 326 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: you are seeing, where is that taking place in bean 327 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: fields or in the timber whereat Well, we've seen a 328 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: lot of activity in the bean fields are our property. 329 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: UM has significant egg on it, a lot of soybeans, UM, 330 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: and we're getting a lot of tear coming out into 331 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: the beans. And we've got some that are still green 332 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: and some that are brown, and some they're yellow, and 333 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: just kind of depends on where on the property the 334 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: fields are located. We've got about a hundred foot or 335 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: so elevation change, um, from top to bottom, with the 336 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: lower portion having a bean field that's basically surrounded by 337 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 1: a creek, so it's still quite green and they're tearing 338 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: it up. And then on the upper portion of the farm, 339 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: it's it's a lot of brown beans just from getting 340 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: scorched out by the sun and and they're getting in 341 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: there pretty good as well. Well. Josh, you own a 342 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 1: scent company, and this time of years seems like not 343 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: many people would be using any kind of urine or 344 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: attracting to or anything like that. Um, are you using 345 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: anything like that early season like this when it's hot 346 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 1: out and uh, there's no running activity going on yet. Yeah, 347 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 1: we are. UM, we've been really researching and and just 348 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 1: kind of spent as much time in the woods as 349 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: we can, just observing how things are responded to our 350 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 1: products before we launched. We're just launching this year. UM, 351 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: so we've been using a lot of basic buck, just 352 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: regular buck and Doe year and UM early season and 353 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: it in our experience, it really seems to comfort the 354 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: year around us. Like for instance, last night, I sat 355 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: in the stand and it was ninety four degrees and 356 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: I was, you know, like a quarter mile hike into 357 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: there and just sweat rolling off of me. And I 358 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: wasn't really anticipating much because I didn't have a great 359 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: win where I was sitting and it was just so hot. Um. 360 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: But I did drag in uh buck and a doe 361 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: flure and hung them on a tree right down from 362 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: my stand about linking branch height, and I had eighteen 363 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 1: year come within arts and none of them spooked at 364 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: my set um. Several of them came up and we're 365 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: sniffing around the moors, but not one of them ever spooked. 366 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: I actually had a buck come in and lay down 367 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: about fifteen yards out in the beans and just sit 368 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: there for about an hour, and I got some good 369 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 1: video on him, So that was pretty cool. And will 370 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 1: your scent game change uh anytime soon? Or will you 371 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,479 Speaker 1: kind of do that all the way through until pre 372 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: rod hits us. We'll probably do that all the way 373 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: through until pre Rut hits, but I really don't know, 374 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: to be honest. We're trying some different things right now 375 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: because I actually had um, well, we had a couple 376 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 1: of bucks, uh, two different couples of buffs that were 377 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: kind of fighting a little bit, just kind of sparring 378 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 1: like that earlier run type activity, which is way too 379 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: soon for that, I think, but they were obviously doing it. Uh, 380 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, you know what's causing that. I think 381 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: it maybe just practicing for the big game type of thing. 382 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: But we're gonna definitely be using a regular lucking dough 383 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: just to keep that comfort level high among the herds 384 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: so that they're smelling recent travel from deer and not 385 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: smelling us um. But yeah, as the rut approaches, we 386 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: had will be using an asteris dough and rutting buck 387 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: for sure. We've had great luck with those in the past, 388 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: just using them amongst ourselves. Now going forward in this 389 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 1: next week or so, Josh, what do you think the 390 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: buck activity will be on a scale of one to 391 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: ten in Kentucky? Well, I really have high hopes for 392 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: this upcoming week. I think I think we're gonna have 393 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: a lot of activity really on a scale and one 394 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: to ten, I'd put it at about a seven or 395 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: and eight as far as you know with with peak 396 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: ten um, just because we're gonna have about a twenty 397 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: degree drop and uh, I really can't wait for that 398 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: because we've had such good activity. Now I'm really excited 399 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: to see what goes on. I think about Thursday, this 400 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: upcoming week is when when the drop is supposed to start, 401 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens, all right, Joshua, I hope 402 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: you get a chance to take advantage of that cooler 403 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: weather and good luck. Man. Thank a lot and thanks 404 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: for the invite. I appreciate it. Before we get to 405 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: our third update, though, let's pause for a moment to 406 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: thank our sponsors at White Tail Properties. We are joined 407 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,239 Speaker 1: by Justin Mason, you land specialists out of Kentucky, and 408 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: Justin is gonna be telling us about his approach to 409 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: hunting early October in the Midwest. You know, I think 410 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,479 Speaker 1: my philosophy in October is, uh, if you don't know, 411 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 1: don't hunt. So um, if I haven't had an opportunity 412 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: to scout much, the first thing I'm gonna rely on 413 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: our trail cameras. Seems like as bucks go from August 414 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: to September into October, they're transitioning from their bachelor groups 415 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: and their summer patterns being primarily on you know, soybeans, 416 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: key food sources, and they're starting to change back into 417 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: their fall patterns. They kind of dispersed from one another 418 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: and established new grounds. So I really reli heavily on 419 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: trail cameras. Just to tell me if a bucket shifted 420 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: from summer to fall, and usually that starts to happened 421 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: in October. If you'd like to learn more and to 422 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,719 Speaker 1: see the properties that Justin currently has listed for sale, 423 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: visit whitetail properties dot com. Backslash Mason that's M A 424 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: S O N. And joining us on the line next 425 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: is Levi Mightinger, Montana, who is the head guide at 426 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: Powder River Outfitters now Levi in Montana. What would you 427 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: say the deer activity has been on a scale of 428 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: one to ten lately? Um, lately with these uh, these 429 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 1: rains and these weather fronts coming in, it's been you know, 430 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: it's been probably a six or seven. I wouldn't call 431 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: it a ten just because you know it's getting around, 432 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: but it really has put the deer back on their feet. Um. 433 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: Earlier on we were in that really big drought, so 434 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: it was, you know, the deer we're moving real late. 435 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: Um now there with these rains and stuff, they're they're 436 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: kind of feeding all day. So it's been really really good. 437 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: Now when you say feeding all day, where do you 438 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: see those deer hitting right now for food sources. And 439 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: has that changed in the last couple of weeks or not. Yeah, So, 440 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: you know, I mean typically then white tails, well you know, 441 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: they'll feed at night, um, and then go to bed, 442 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: especially when it's warm. Um. But these rains in this 443 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: like jury overcast of days um and two where some 444 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: of the farming in between these storms where you're getting 445 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: these these hay meadows cut. Um. We've had some corn 446 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: fields that have been cut. And now with these colder days, 447 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: it's putting these deer you know, back on their feet. Um. 448 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: They're trying to you know, to sustain and be warm, 449 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: you know, so they're out, they're out feeding, you know 450 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: during the day. Um. I had a deer the other 451 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: day at four o'clock in the afternoon that was probably 452 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: a hundred and sixty inch white tail and he was 453 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: out at four o'clock, you know, browsing, which is is 454 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: really uncommon this time of year where they're going, you know, 455 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: then bigger deer usually going nocturnal. So I've seen on 456 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: the Powder River Facebook page that you guys have had 457 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 1: like seven kills in the last week or so, and 458 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: that's incredible. But what is the typical setup look like 459 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: on those haunts? Are you hunting any mornings yet or 460 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: is it strictly evenings and strictly food sources. That's you know, 461 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: that's a typical thing. Like what we do here is 462 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 1: it's strictly afternoon. Um. You know these white tails, you 463 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: try to hunt the morning sets where you're going through 464 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: the bedding area, you're trying to get into you know, 465 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 1: through where they're going. It just puts that aspect of human, 466 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: you know, human in there and it really ruins these sets. 467 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: So we like to hunt them afternoon sets. Um of 468 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: course early on food source. But now we're getting later, 469 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: you know, we even we pushed the bed just a 470 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: little bit where you're catching them the bigger, more mature 471 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: deer you know, you know later because they're moving later. 472 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 1: But with these like I said, with these storms, we've 473 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 1: we've not had so much of that problem where we're 474 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: still you know, we're killing off the field edges still. Well, 475 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: would you say that the buck movement then, is um 476 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: unique this time of year in late September versus other 477 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: years or is this what you'd expect to see in 478 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: late September. No, this wouldn't be what I would expect 479 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: to see. This is kind of an odd year because 480 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 1: I guess maybe the drought effected it early and then 481 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 1: with this colder weather come in. But usually these especially 482 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: these bigger mature deer, you know, they're they're day near 483 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 1: to whether they're nocturnal where you know, you're you're only 484 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: able to get them right on the edge of that 485 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: that betting area. And so yeah, it's it's above you know, 486 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: kind of an odd year as far as for it well, 487 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: going forward in the next week or so in Montana, 488 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: what do you think the dear activity will be a 489 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: scale of one to tention, I think, you know, it 490 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: would probably stay it's gonna stay average. I'd say about 491 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: a five or six. You know, it's hard to tell 492 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: right now with just because we're still getting this rain, 493 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: which has been good for us as far as keeping 494 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: them deer up. But if it decides to you know, 495 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 1: change and warm up, you know, it could change that pattern. 496 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: I mean, all of us know as it gets later 497 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: like this, the bigger deer, you know, not till rout 498 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: do they they really really show their show their you know, 499 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: themselves into the shooting light periods. So I would say 500 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 1: it's probably gonna stay about a five or six right there. 501 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: All right, LEVI will thanks for joining me, and good 502 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: luck the rest of fall, and I'll look forward to 503 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: seeing more pictures from Powder River, all right. Thanks man, 504 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: all right and joining us on the line. Last is 505 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: Bow Mortonic, Pennsylvania, who's the field editor with the Journal 506 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 1: of Mountain Hunting. Now Bow in Pennsylvania there, what would 507 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: you say the deer activities men on skill of one 508 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: to ten. Honestly, with the hot weather that we've been 509 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: having recently, I would say it's around a four. Personally. 510 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: It would be off of scouting and trail kim activity, 511 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: with the reason being in Pennsylvania, so the most in 512 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: the state. The season hasn't opened yet. It will open 513 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: this Saturday, September, but in the area I live in 514 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: currently in southwestern Pennsylvania there around the Pittsburgh area, it 515 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: opened a couple of weekends ago. And although I haven't 516 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: been out in the tree, Um after being on an 517 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: elkin out west. Um. Everyone, I've talked to you that's 518 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: coming to the archery shop I work at, and everything 519 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: is is that has been extremely slow and a lot 520 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: of hot weather I think has been Um. Pard to that. So, now, 521 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: have you had any reports of e h D in 522 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: that area or anything previously that's going to change your 523 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: plans for fall? Yeah, it won't. It won't affect me 524 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: as much. But in this area e h D has 525 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: has seemed to hit a lot of a lot of 526 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: the customers at the at the bow shop have came 527 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: in and showed pictures of dead deer, They've founded water sources, 528 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: and there's also been some some news articles in the 529 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,239 Speaker 1: in the local media talking about an e h D 530 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: sweep through Washington in Allegheny Counties and and even in 531 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: the Beaver County here in southwestern Pennsylvania. But where I 532 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: personally hunt in uh north central Pennsylvania, that it won't 533 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: It shouldn't affect me too much. So when you do 534 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: get a chance to get out bowl, what is one 535 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 1: of your typical setups look like right now? Um, as 536 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: far as late for I'll talk a little bit about 537 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: early season here. As far as what I'm gonna be 538 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: doing for the opener because of where I normally hunting 539 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: in the big woodsetting, there's no food plots or anything 540 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: like that, even in the area on through limited oak trees, 541 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: So I'll be focusing on apple trees. UM that will 542 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: be the main focus here early in the season. And 543 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: UH also a big crop that's in specific to north 544 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: central Pennsylvania's cherry trees. So these cherry trees produced black cherries, 545 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: and from what I've noticed this year, there's only been 546 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: small areas and small bashes that are produced these little 547 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: black cherry and the deer love them. Trial cameras are 548 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: showing that there they're they're feeding in these areas quite 549 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: a bit. Well. Both living in Pittsburgh, do you have 550 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: any contexts that do any hunting UH in city limits 551 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: or do you yourself do any urban hunting. I don't personally, 552 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: I haven't received any permission yet to hunt some of 553 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: these small plots of land inside the city limits. But 554 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: I talked to a lot of guys that that do 555 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: do that and do do it regularly with success, and 556 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: recently it's been they haven't had any luck yet early 557 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: in the year where where normal. It takes some pretty 558 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: extreme weather to UH to screw up some of those 559 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: hunting situations, but so far it's been it's been too 560 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: hot and not a lot of deer move and not 561 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: a lot of sightings. So do you hear that their 562 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: season progress is kind of similar to yours as far 563 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: as the deer activity and the rut patterns, or is 564 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: it very different than what you see? It depends. There's uh, 565 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: it's it is like that they have a little bit 566 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: more success earlier in the season than than I typically do. 567 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: As far as um hunting a big wood setting versus 568 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: more urban hunting, they once you get any kind of 569 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: cold fronts, it seems like in the in the urban 570 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: settings that they're moving a lot more, and since they're 571 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: in such a smaller concentrated area, the sightings in the 572 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: close encounters seem to amplify. Where in the big woods 573 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,959 Speaker 1: setting it's it's still unless you're extremely close to the 574 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: to the betting areas, you're not seeing too much movement 575 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: until mostly the latter part of October starts to heat up. 576 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: There seems to be a good good swing there. Now 577 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: going forward in Pennsylvania, what do you think the dear 578 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: activity is going to be in this next week or 579 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: so on a scale of one to ten, Well, looking 580 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: at the weather, we are supposed to get a little 581 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: bit cooler weather here coming up for the for the opener, 582 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: So I'm hoping that's gonna gonna jump things up, but 583 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: I don't see it. I don't see it's spiking in 584 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: any way. I would still say no better than a 585 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: sex all right, bull Well, good luck and I hope 586 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: that colder weather comes. Hey, thanks, good luck to you, Spencer. 587 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: And that concludes this week's episode Wired Hunt's Rout Radio. 588 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: We'd like to thank our sponsors at Sitka, white Tail Properties, Matthews, Yetti, 589 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: white Tail Institute, Maven Trophy Ridge, and haunt Tera. We 590 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: thank you all for listening. We will talk to you 591 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: next week and as always, stay Wired Hunt