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This 5 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: is taking Stock, coming up on taking Stock, the chief 6 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: chief executive of a company that has been so disruptive 7 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: to the razor industry that its main rival, Gillette, was 8 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: compelled to launch an online subscription service, and they even 9 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: filed a patent lawsuit against this startup based in Los 10 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: Angeles Dollar Shave Club. We've got the CEO and the 11 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: chief Product innovation officer. Now we've got Charlie Pots in 12 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: the news room with the Bloomberg Business Flash and I 13 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: thank you very much, Kathleen, thank you, Pim, the dal 14 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: the SMP, Nestack. They are all law right now. S 15 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: and P five hundred index down sixteen points, the drop 16 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: of eight tens of one percent. We're brought to you 17 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: by National Realty Returns on cash in rented real estate. 18 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: Find them at n r i E dot net. Stocks 19 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: are falling for the first time in four days. Reversing 20 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: much of yesterday's rally is Disappointing results from Macy's to 21 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: Walt Disney heightened concern that American consumers remain hesitant to 22 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: booth spending. Disney is now down four point two percent, 23 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: reigniting fears of media investors with second quarter results that 24 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: missed analysts estimates. Stan Myers is with Piper Jaffrey in 25 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. He's got a by rating on the stock 26 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: along with a one twenty dollar price target. On the call, 27 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: management didn't particularly give a lot of color on subscriber growth, 28 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: but you know in the filings that did say that 29 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: the subscriber growth was down one percent compares to two 30 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: percent last last quarter. So we see some deceleration subscriber 31 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: growth that's likely not pricedents as stock. Macy's outlook is 32 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: renewing concerns about the broader industry, sending shares of retailers 33 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: and apparel makers tumbling. Macy's stock down today by fourteen 34 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: points six percent, Gold up twelve seventy the ounce hired 35 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: by one percent to twelve seventy seven. Fifty SMP down fifteen, 36 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: a drop of eight tenths of one percent down industriels 37 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: down one eight five, a drop of one percent, and 38 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: has stacked down eight tenths of one percent. Crude oil 39 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: up a dollar forty three a barrel forty six O nine. 40 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: Again there a three tenths of one percent, So again 41 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: recapping stocks lower across the board this Wednesday, SMP down fifteen, 42 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: a drop of eight tenths of one percent. Three thirty 43 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: two on Wall Street. Now we'll look at other news 44 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: from around the world. Charlie, thank you from the Bloomberg 45 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: news room. I'm Mark Crumpton. This news update is brought 46 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: to you by the Jeep Grand Cherokee, the most awarded 47 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: suv ever. 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From the Bloomberg News Room by Mark Crumpton. Charlie, 75 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: and we thank you and again recapping a move flour 76 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: for stocks SMP down fifteen points to two thousand sixty eight. 77 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: That is a drop of eight tenths of one percent. 78 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 1: I'm Charlie Platon. That's sub Bloomberg Business Flash. This is 79 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: taking Stock with Kathleen Hayes and Pim Fox on Bloomberg Radio. 80 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: Like so many startups, like so many disruptors, Dollar Shaved 81 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: Club was born out of frustration. I want to start 82 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: the story from there with two very special guests now, 83 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: Michael Duban, founder and CEO of Dollar Shape Club, and 84 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,119 Speaker 1: Boddy Murad, he's the chief product innovation officer. They're joining 85 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: us in studio today to tell us about how they 86 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: got started and how they are disrupting a very important industry. 87 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 1: So Micha, let's start with you, founder CEO Santa Monica. 88 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: I love Santa Monica. So you guys just were at 89 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: a party and you said you're sick and tired of 90 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: how razors work. Yeah. Yeah, it's a painting about to 91 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: go to the store, find a locked razor, fortress, find 92 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: the person with the key. They're always doing something else 93 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: and they prefer not to help you. And so, um, 94 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: you know, we launched Dollar Shave Club and that was 95 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: in two thousand twelve. Since then, we we've garnered three 96 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: point one million members. They get a shipment from us 97 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: every month or every other month, and we've since expanded 98 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: into non razor categories to solve larger men grooming challenges. 99 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: Go ahead, tell us about that, and then I want 100 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: to find out a little bit about the lawsuit, because 101 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: you know, you've managed to accomplish something not everybody does, 102 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: which is to get a made a consumer products company 103 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: to sue you. Yes, we're completely thrilled about it. Yeah, 104 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: I'm like that. Laura's must be thrilled about it as well. 105 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Well I think I use and and you know, 106 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: soap in order to feel fresh when they deal with this. 107 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: Yeah right. Um, well, so look, I mean there's there's 108 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: men are paying a lot more attention to their grooming 109 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 1: than they ever have before, and they're just as frustrated 110 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: with the shopping experience and with the products themselves. Uh 111 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: and and so that's why we went out and hired Foddy, um, 112 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: you know, a very accomplished product development specialist and innovator 113 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: to help us develop you know, lines across the bathroom. 114 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: So uh, you know, we just launched today the Wanderer, 115 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: which is our line of body washes and bar soaps, 116 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: eventually shampoo and conditioner. But we've got skin preservation stuff, 117 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: we've got hair styling creams and gels. We've got pre 118 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: and pochet, We've got one wife Charlie's a butt wipe 119 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: for men, which is a major, a major seller, a big, 120 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: big seller. Uh. And you know, we're really proud of 121 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 1: that stuff. And the guys, guys, um, you know, they 122 00:06:57,880 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: don't like going to the store, as we know. They 123 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: like to get and get out and get on with 124 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: their lives. And we're we're sort of a guided journey 125 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: through the grooming aisle. So funny. So, as as the 126 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: innovation officer, it seems to me there is a lot 127 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,119 Speaker 1: of competition in this space though. There's a busilion, different 128 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: kinds of body washes and all kinds of razors. So 129 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: what is your challenge? What are you what are you 130 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: doing that unique different besides just allowing me to put 131 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: an order in and get it automatically. What we think 132 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: is very different and very unique about our company is 133 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: we put the consumer first. We talked to him daily. 134 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: As Michael mentioned, we have over three million members. Uh, 135 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: we tap into them. We get to know what their 136 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: problems are and we identify what the solutions will be. 137 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: So men are emailing you, texting you rooms. We have 138 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: everything from from live chats to SMS, two phone calls. 139 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: We bring them in for focus groups. We actually go 140 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: into their homes to understand how they're using products in 141 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: the shower, how you know they're using their grooming products. 142 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: To really understand what are their pain points, what are 143 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: the areas of grooming that they're most frustrated with, and 144 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: how can we tappen to them to help us develop 145 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: products that it's gonna be specific for them, talk directly 146 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: to them and make their grooming habits a lot healthier. 147 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: All right, So either one of you can answer this question. Um, 148 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: you know, I like the smell of the of the soap. 149 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: You've gotten a couple of mixtures here, amber, lavender, mint, 150 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: cedar wood, and so on. The razors themselves, why are 151 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: they always so expensive? Not your razors, but I'm saying 152 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: why you know you as you mentioned, you go to 153 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: the case, you try to buy the razors and you're 154 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: knocked out by the price. Why is that? I mean, 155 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: you'd have to you'd have to talk to our friends 156 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati to find out why why they're so expensive? Good? 157 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 1: Where the where the alternative? Yes, our good friends, good 158 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: friends to each other. Well sow you you and you 159 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: are alluding to and you mentioned the patent lawsuit from Gillette. 160 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: You can you talk about that or not? No? Unfortunately 161 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: I can't. Um, you can just say you're good friends. 162 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: I can just say my good friends and you know 163 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 1: we're looking forward to defending ourselves. Um, and I believe 164 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: we'll be successful. So let me ask you, BOTTI. I 165 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: would guess that a lot of women are involved in 166 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: buying these products, either say hey, mi, guy really needs 167 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: this and here it is honey signing them up. Do 168 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: you hear from women as well? Absolutely? We we do 169 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: know that. UM, A lot of men's grooming products are 170 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: purchased by the girlfriends, the partners, the wives, UM. And 171 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: they do understand that they're much more educated in terms 172 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: of using products, but the guys are not so Traditionally 173 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 1: they buy the products for him. UM. But it's important 174 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: for them to understand actually what they're you know, what 175 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: the what what the guy's specific skin concerns are and 176 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: the fact that it's also different. We're developing products specifically 177 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: for men, we're not leveraging women's faces. And that's how 178 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 1: we go about it. I think the interesting thing about 179 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: about men's grooming in the age that we're living in 180 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: right now is that guys really want control over this 181 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: area of their life. They don't want to seed control 182 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: to to somebody else in their households or somebody that 183 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: they live with. Um. They recognize the direct connection that 184 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: looking good, smelling good, feeling good has on their confidence 185 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: and their success and and um. We find that guys 186 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: are becoming more thoughtful about the ingredients that go into 187 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: all of these products. Uh. And and you know that's 188 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: why we have, you know, really high standards when it 189 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: comes to formulating these things. You know, no sulfates, no parabins, 190 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: um and always really honest, uh, you know, fragrances that 191 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: you can understand like men and cedar would and and 192 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: not you know, like you know, bear Musk. I just 193 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: wanted to know who came up with the idea of 194 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: one wife, Charlie. I did. Okay, well listen, it's not 195 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: it's you know, we get a lot of laughs and 196 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 1: a lot of sers, but it's a serious product. It's 197 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: it sells big time. I mean, I've had people come 198 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: up to me in the airport on conference calls, put 199 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: the phone down and say, you know, Mike, You've changed 200 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: my my life, thank you, and then unzip their bag 201 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: and show me the travel whites wives. I had a 202 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 1: guy in a hot tub at a conference in Hawaii, 203 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: um come up to me and tell me that his 204 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: wife made him buy those because she said he wasn't 205 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: doing a good enough job. Dollars shaved cub Club, but 206 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: chief product Innovation off to Foddy Mourad and Michael Duban, 207 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: the founder retailers selling off big time to day after 208 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: Macy's fall, Shorts, Amazon, the Lone Wolf moving higher. Find 209 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: out why as we move ahead into the clothes, movers 210 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: and Shakers and more coming up on Bloomberg Radio