WEBVTT - 09/16/21 DPS Hour 2 Sean Salisbury 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:03.480 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:07.680 Sports Radio Hour two. On this Thursday. We're down to Danette. 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:12.000 Fritzie has the day off. Yeah, I mean we miss him, 0:00:12.280 --> 0:00:16.960 Tod Who's got it better than us? Fritzie's off today? Nobody, 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:22.760 no limericks, no mock headlines. Yeah, come on in. Spent 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:24.960 some time with Chris collins Worth. If you miss any 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:27.320 interviews on the program, go to dan Patrick dot com. 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:29.840 He had some really interesting things to say about Matthew 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:33.879 Stafford and also Lamar Jackson and how he plans to 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:37.319 attack the Kansas City Chiefs Defense eight seven seven three 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:39.479 d P show email and dress DP at dan patrick 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:42.480 dot com, Twitter handle at DP show. We stumbled upon 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:46.239 a topic, and I know everybody has talked about this 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:50.080 at one point. Is Tom Brady the greatest football player 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:53.680 of all time? And you know my point is it's 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:56.840 he's got the resume. But I think sometimes if you 0:00:57.000 --> 0:00:59.440 phrase the question that way, then you go, well, he's 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:02.160 not athlete aletic. I mean, well, if that's the case, 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:05.120 who's the greatest football player of all time? Might be 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:09.200 Bo Jackson, Because I don't know if there's anybody who's 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:12.560 been more athletic than him, but he never ran for 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:15.319 a thousand yards in a season, never played in the 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:19.840 Super Bowl like Dion Sanders. Great of an athlete as 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:23.880 we've ever seen. So I know that we and I don't. 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:26.039 I'm not trolling you. I'm not putting it out. I 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:28.319 was just curious with Chris collins Worth and I asked 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:30.480 him that, you know, do you look at Tom Brady's 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:33.720 the greatest football player of all time? And he said, yeah, absolutely, 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:36.080 no doubt. Pol. Could there be an athlete, an NFL 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:40.080 athlete who combines both athleticism and resume. And a name 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:42.640 that just popped into my head was Steve Young from 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:45.120 the forty nine ers. He was at one time the 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:46.840 best quarterback in the game for about a three or 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:49.080 four year run. And you know he started late, and 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:51.040 he also had Super Bowls, he had winning He has 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:54.120 both resume. Joe Montana doesn't look like a freak athlete. 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:56.920 Michael Vick is a freak athlete, but he doesn't have 0:01:56.960 --> 0:02:02.640 the resume. Yeah, Steve Young had both athleticism and resume. Yeah, 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:06.120 he just wasn't not long at that level long enough. 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:08.600 I mean, Brady has been at that level. You might 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:11.000 say I mean I find it even more amazing that 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:14.040 he's not a great athlete in a sport where you 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:17.919 need to be a good athlete at least. I mean, 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:20.919 everybody's trying to tear his head off. It comes down 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:25.240 to I see this defense, I can process this in 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:28.480 real time. I can beat you with my arm, and 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:31.320 I can beat you with my intelligence. I know that 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:35.880 we can't. It's hard to quantify. Okay, somebody is so smart. 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:40.919 That's not athletic. It's hey, you're playing football, you're athletic. Yes, 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:46.000 Lawrence Taylor was athletic. Jim Brown athletic. I mean, Randy 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:50.040 Moss might be the best athlete who's ever played And 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:53.079 I have no problem if somebody said that Tarall Owens 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:56.160 might be the best athlete who ever played football. I mean, 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:59.120 there's just a lot of players. I think when it 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:02.720 comes down to, is Tom Brady to football what Bill 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:07.200 Russell is to basketball? Maybe not the best player. And 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:11.840 Seaton brought this up last hour. Okay, best resume, best winner, big, 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:15.520 you know, but when it comes to athleticism, it's tricky, 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:20.400 you know. Chris Collinsworth brought up Babe Ruth Well, Babe 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:23.320 stole one hundred and twenty three bases in his career. 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:26.560 Night he just didn't look the part of an athlete. 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:28.960 But if you win almost one hundred games as a 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:33.040 pitcher and you bat over three thirty as a hitter 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:37.960 and hit seven hundred home runs, that's athletic for baseball. 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:42.040 I mean, shoe hey, Hutani's getting all this credit for 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:47.240 doing sort of sort of what Babe did. Now he's 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:51.480 a better looking athlete, he's faster, you know, he's gonna 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:54.760 throw harder, he's gonna hit maybe longer home runs. But 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:57.480 does that make him a better baseball player than Babe 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:00.400 Ruth And the answer, of course is no, because he's 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:03.800 relatively new in the sport. Yeah, mcclub brady was an 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:06.120 elite baseball player though he got I know, he went 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:08.640 in like the eighteenth round. But in the documentary they 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:11.000 said he would have gone very high if if he 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:14.680 wasn't committed to football. Yeah, he was a catcher, Yeah, 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:16.839 but you know he could have been that. He could 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:20.039 have been a journeyman baseball player. That's something. Yeah, but 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:22.520 he's the greatest football player of all times. So he's 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:26.039 a journeyman baseball player. The greatest football player of old time. Well, 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:28.400 Dion Sanders is one of the greatest football players all 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:31.440 the time. He wasn't that great at baseball. He was good, 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:34.680 I mean he would he would go from a football 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:37.440 game to a baseball game and a helicopter that was 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:40.680 pretty good. And bow never played a full season of 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:45.200 anything but what he did when he played. He'd be 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:47.560 hard pressed to find somebody who was better than that. 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:51.040 Michael Jordan, the greatest basketball player, wasn't a good baseball player. 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:58.240 Do we hold that against him? No? Should we? Right? 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:00.880 Better be careful because he come on the show if 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:06.520 you criticize Okay, man, we're well past that. Mike's got 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:09.760 more important things than to stop by here, all right? 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:12.599 Eight seven seven three d P show the poll question 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:16.000 from the first hour, is it spilling over to hour two? Yeah, 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:18.279 I had to put up as Tom Brady, the greatest 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:22.720 football player of all time, said, no, So it's close 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:29.520 right now. I have another I have some pull options. Okay, uh, 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:33.840 who is more likely to draft a quarterback next season 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:37.120 that is playing tonight? The New York Football Giants or 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:47.080 the Washington football team. I would say Washington. Um, I 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:50.520 mean it could it could easily be both. I mean, 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:53.920 this is Daniel Jones's make or break season, but they 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:57.719 could still keep him for another year. I would say 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:01.000 Washington football team, because Ryan Fitzpatrick is not your future 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:06.160 and you're and you're a You're a good quarterback, consistent 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:09.240 quarterback away from being what I think would be a 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:13.159 dangerous playoff team. Taylor Heineken is going to start tonight 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:18.120 against Daniel Jones. And while I like him, he's got athleticism, Uh, 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:21.680 teammates seemed to like him as well. You're you just 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:27.240 he's not their future. But I would say probably Washington 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:29.480 would be that too. Yeah, Polly, if he went by 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:31.799 Danny Jones, would he be a much better quarterback? Daniel 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:34.719 Jones sounds like an accounting firm gotta go with Danny 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:39.120 Jones's slings it. But they gave him Danny Dimes. Like, 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:42.960 he doesn't strike me as Danny Dimes. Inspection is Daniel Dimes, yes, 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:49.480 but they call him Danny Dimes. I don't know. Yes, Yeah, 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:52.440 there's an image problem here, like he wears pleated khakis 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:57.160 and he didn't wait they had a quarterback who in 0:06:57.360 --> 0:07:02.239 Eli Manning? Who was that true? Like Danny Dimes looks 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:07.279 like he's Eli's cousin. All right, so we'll get to 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:10.320 some phone calls here. Sean Salisbury's all fired up former 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:15.160 USC quarterback, and he said yesterday in a tweet, basically, 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:20.600 these kids don't remember USC being USC as we know it, 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:23.800 as as older broadcasters were, like, man, how could you 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:26.480 pass up going to USC? And didn't that a Marquee job? 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:29.120 And I don't know if it is a mar Key job. 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:32.320 And if I'm eighteen or nineteen, what are my memories 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:40.800 of USC? None? When they're really good. None. So that's 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:43.320 why trying to keep these quarterbacks who go to Clemson 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:46.520 or Alabama they should be going to USC. And can 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:49.440 you bring in somebody who is going to bring life 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:52.920 to that program? And who do you bring in? Because 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:56.360 a lot of times they promote from within, which is 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:59.840 nice for their assistant coaches. But if I'm looking at 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:03.360 program and I say it's an elite program, can I 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:06.239 bring somebody in? Who do I bring in? Bob Stoops? 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:09.480 Do you bring in James Franklin? Is urban Meyer actually 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:13.400 interested in the job? Can you get Matt Campbell from Iowa? Stayed, 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:18.080 I would love to know if you said, here's our 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:25.840 dream candidate. Who is that dream candidate for us? So 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:29.120 we'll talk to Sean Salisbury about that. Everything in today's 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:32.680 sports media world is accelerated after one game, you know, 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:35.400 we weigh in on who's the MVP front runners. There's 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:39.480 power rankings, there's mock drafts, and most of it's relatively harmless. 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:42.920 Everyone just changes their mind and doesn't look back. But 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:46.000 when it comes to coaches, there's a lot of pressure. 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:49.320 When you land on that dreaded hot seat, it's really 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:52.720 tough to get off of it. Matt Naggy, he's been 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:55.320 aware of the pressure in Chicago. He's on the hot seat. 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:58.760 Will it affect his decision at quarterback? Other coaches on 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:02.360 the hot seat actually one in Week one, guys like 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:06.199 Vic Fangio in Denver, Zach Taylor in Cincinnati, Mike McCarthy. 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:09.160 The Cowboys actually looked pretty good in their loss to 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:13.080 the Buccaneers. But it's a week to week proposition. So 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:15.680 even if guys seem safe now, a lot of coaches 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:20.559 are one bad loss away from being on the NFL's 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:31.560 hot seat. What's Washington favored by tonight? That like six? Yeah, 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:34.760 Paul I got Washington given three and a half to 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:38.120 the Giants. Oh, that's it. That correct, Yes, that's Be's 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:41.160 Daniel Jones owns Washington. Oh, that's right. He's undefeated. So 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:44.640 that's that weird anomaly. Okay, he's never he's never lost 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:48.319 to the Washington football team. Cowboys have lost their defensive 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:53.199 in Um, was that six to eight weeks that Lawrence 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:57.880 is out? Yeah, Marcus Lawrence. He got paid and then 0:09:57.880 --> 0:10:01.480 all of a sudden, I think he's sort of been 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:04.600 pedestrian the last two years because he had a couple 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:07.720 of years double digit sacks. Yeah, point yeah, twenty seventeen 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:09.760 and two thousand and eighteen to Marcus Lawrence went for 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:12.080 fourteen and a half sacks, ten and a half sacks, 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:15.000 got the big deal two years ago, five sacks, last 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:19.160 year six and a half sacks. Yeah. What about Zeke 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:23.840 Elliott McLevin because you know, look I'm out there that 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:27.040 I'm not. I would never have resigned him. I would 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:29.600 have just said, thank you, we appreciate all the great 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:32.000 years you gave us, but we're not giving you a 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:34.880 second contract. Because he led the league in rushing in 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:39.000 twenty eighteen, he had you know what, fourteen hundred yards. 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:44.240 But what has he done? And look any running back 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:46.800 who plays all the game should get a thousand yards. 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:51.760 That's not asking much. And he's playing behind one of 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:54.800 the better offensive lines or he has yes mclovin. Yeah. 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:57.240 The year after that, he went down to thirteen hundred 0:10:57.280 --> 0:10:59.760 and fifty seven yards, eighty four yards a game after that, 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:02.440 nine hundred and seventy nine yards. Last year, it's sixty 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:04.880 three yards a game. Any rushed for thirty three yards 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:06.679 in Week one and they gave him that six year, 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:11.880 ninety million dollars extension. Oh yeah, No, But isn't the 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:14.440 flaw drafting Ezekiel Elliot in the top five in the 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:16.960 first place because he did do what you asked for 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:19.400 him his first three years, four years, he was an 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:22.240 All Pro running back. His numbers are fantastic his first 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:24.640 three years. Yeah, and then you're in the position where 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:28.480 to satisfy the fans you have to resign him. It's 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:32.000 like Christian McCaffrey. He was drafted high, he worked out, 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:34.199 then they had assigned him. Leonard Fordette was drafted high, 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:37.200 didn't work out great, worked out kind of medium. Yeah, 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:39.480 so they didn't there's no pressure to resign him. Yeah. 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:41.360 I don't know if we'll see a running back in 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:46.440 the top five drafted anytime soon. I mean, se Quon 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:49.920 might be the last. But I don't know if you 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:55.760 resign him. I wouldn't. But you know, Christian McCaffrey is 0:11:55.800 --> 0:12:00.200 a little bit different because he's he's an anomaly and 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:04.280 he's the face of the franchise there. But do I 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:07.280 want to tie up that kind of money with my 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:09.640 running back? The answer is now, yeah, mcclub. What if 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:13.520 you consider Alvin Kamara and Christian McCaffrey slot receiver slash 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:15.920 running backs, could you pay them a little more because 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:22.760 really that's their value. Yes, I like Kamara, but once again, 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:25.040 I don't know how much am I paying to keep you. 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:27.240 And these guys all look at you know what Zeke 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:30.360 signed for and they're going, I want that. Well, not 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:34.440 everybody gets that, but Kamara is, you know, one of 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:36.280 the exceptions that I would look at him as a 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:39.080 dual threat. Therefore that might be a little bit different. 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:41.320 I would still use Zeke out of the backfield more. 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:44.080 I would just try to get him out in space, 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:47.600 and he's a safety valve for Dak Prescott. But you 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:51.320 know they are a passing team. Yeah, and Kamara, they 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:53.040 got for nothing. They got him out of college as 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:55.679 a low draft choice, so Kamara made four Pro Bowls 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:58.280 without getting paid. They got his best work for zero, 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:03.760 basically the Saints. Andrea in New Jersey joins us, leads 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:06.600 us off this hour. Andrew, good morning, what's on your mind? 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:10.480 Good morning, and shout out to chat Row and a 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:14.400 belated happy birthday. Shout out to Jeff in Detroit. All right, 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:19.040 In my opinion, Brady will never be the best player. 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:23.560 There's one thing everybody keeps forget, well not everybody, but 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:26.079 a lot of people keep forgetting is the most important 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:30.040 consideration is the era. If Joe Montana and Dan Marino 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:32.720 played today, could you imagine the numbers they would put up? 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:36.480 I mean, is Brady really going to be able to 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:38.360 stand up or would have been able to stand up 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:44.320 against Dick butkiss Jim Brown, mean Joe Green. I mean, 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:47.600 you can't compare a player from today in my opinion, 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:50.880 because of the past generations and the rules were so 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:54.640 much tougher. Right, Well, thank you great phone call, Andrew. Yeah, 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:58.840 I guess it's Brady is going to move past Drew 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:03.120 Brees like he hasn't blown people away with anything other 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:07.360 than his super Bowls because it's a past happy league 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:09.960 and he doesn't have all the records. He will, but 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:15.000 he's played longer than anybody. How would Brady have fared 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:19.080 back in the seventies, How would Montana and Marino do? Now? Well, 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:21.800 they would put up great numbers. I mean Montana didn't 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:24.640 put up great numbers. I think he threw for thirty 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:28.040 touchdowns in a season maybe once, but it was it 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:31.520 was a different game. Dan Marino would have every passing 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:36.080 record in today's game, Dan Marino would you know? They 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:39.240 would all be trying to catch him. But it's winning 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:43.520 super Bowls, it's winning playoff games. You know, that's what 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:48.080 separates Brady. If it's all about winning, then why wouldn't 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:52.120 it be Tom Brady because he's the greatest winner that 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:56.920 we've had in the NFL. If it's about stats, well 0:14:57.040 --> 0:15:00.240 then that's a different story. Then Drew Brees is better 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:04.360 than Tom Brady. Peyton Manning is better and we know 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:06.680 that's not the case. By the way. Drew Brees will 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:09.240 join us on the program tomorrow. Oh ask Brees who 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:11.080 was the greatest football player of all time? Do you 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:16.600 think he says? Tom Brady? Who thinks Drew Brees doesn't 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:22.720 say Tom Brady, Paulie, No, but I think Drew grudgingly 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:26.400 says Tom Brady. But he'll say based off the rings, 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:28.800 rings decide it. He won't admit he's a better quarterback 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:31.720 than him. You don't think Breeze would say that Brady 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:34.760 is better than him. Absolutely not Breeze. He'd be the 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:38.000 last guy to admit it. He would say he's had 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:41.000 a better career based off super Bowl titles, because that's 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:45.360 just a fact, that's math. Yeah, but he's Drew's too 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:49.600 competitive to say someone's better than him. He will hem 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:52.080 and haw and compliment, but he won't say he's better 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:57.000 than him. Okay, I was almost willing to bet a 0:15:57.080 --> 0:16:01.560 pie on them that based but you know, Breeze may 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:03.840 answer it differently, so I get a pie to the face. 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:06.560 I didn't. I don't know if I want to do that. Yeah. See, 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:10.640 there's a stat going around on Twitter right now, and 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:14.600 it's a highlight of one of Jamis Winston's touchdown passes. 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:18.080 It says this touchdown pass from Jameis Winston traveled fifty 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:21.560 yards in the air. Drew Breese attempted nine thousand, four 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:23.800 hundred and twenty one passes for the Saints and never 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:27.560 had one of those. He never had an attempt of 0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:30.960 over fifty yards a completion over fifty yards. They went 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:33.520 fifty yards in the air, in the air, and then 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:35.960 I don't know about the run after that. Oh wow, 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:42.000 nine thousand passes and not one was completed where he 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:48.080 threw it over fifty almost ninety five hundred. Are you 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:53.640 sure about that? Are you trusting Twitter? Again? It's from 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:57.560 a reputable sort. Okay, let me take a break. More 0:16:57.560 --> 0:17:02.360 phone calls coming up. 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Thanks for listening to The 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:42.240 Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:45.080 every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:47.920 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you can find us 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:52.120 on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:54.760 on the Peacock app. Unlock the Truth. It's a new 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:58.720 Peacock original drama. Dan Brown has written another book, The 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:03.800 Lost Symbol and Robert Langdon the Harvard Is it a 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:12.440 symbologist McLevin, somebody who studies symbols. You're the one who's 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:15.200 friends with Dan Brown. Did you ask him? Um? I 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:22.920 guess I could ask him this. I think it's pronounced symbolologists, symbololo, symbolologists, Okay, 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:26.480 like symbols. A drummer plays, No, no, he's he's a 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:31.600 he's a Harvard symbologist. Where he's you da Vinci code? 0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:36.600 Oh yeah, yeah yeah that symbolologists. Symbolologists go to Peacock 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:38.879 tv dot com to sign up. Yeah. I had one 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:41.800 of those embarrassing moments where you play in a celebrity 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:45.840 ProAm golf tournament and I'm thinking I'm the celebrity. I'm 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:49.119 playing in New Hampshire. Uh, you know, hooting the Blowfish 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:51.400 is playing in you know, there's other guys in there. 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:54.480 And I get to the fifteenth hole and I said 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:57.959 to one of the guys I'm playing with, I said, so, so, 0:18:58.000 --> 0:18:59.479 what do you do for a living? You know, I'm 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:01.440 the celebrit do you got to engage the people of 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:03.200 your PLAYMT, So what do you do for a living? 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:06.439 And Dan Brown goes and I don't know. I just 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:09.040 know his name's Dan. And he goes, uh, yeah, I'm 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:12.600 a writer. I said, oh wow, I said, I read 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:17.160 anything that you've written. He goes, U the da Vinci code. People, Oh, 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:24.960 he's the celebrity. And then you can't go, um, I'm 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:29.199 not familiar with the da Vinci code. Damn. I was 0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:33.159 so mad. I'm just like, he's the celebrity. Damn it. 0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:38.359 I know that. I say, Hey, jk J, that's an 0:19:38.400 --> 0:19:42.160 interesting name. What do you do? Are you a writer? Oh? 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:47.520 Harry Potter? Oh well thank you me, clem hey. Yeah, 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:49.320 it would have been good if we just stopped right there. 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:53.800 And I made the segue to Sean Salisbury once you 0:19:54.000 --> 0:19:59.000 doing todd things? Uh. Sean Salisbury, former NFL quarterback and 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:02.480 host the Sean Salisbury show in Sports Fox seven ninety 0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:08.120 in Houston and the former USC quarterman, Hi, Sean, Hey, 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:11.040 you dude, I've listened to you talking about Dad Broud. Hi. 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:15.840 I'm Sean. You're James Patterson. Uh, here's my problem, Dan, 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:18.280 I went to I went to h EB grocery store 0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:20.439 the other day. I thought the same thing, and the 0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:23.760 grocery checkout guy says, well, I'd check out grocery. What 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:26.600 kind of celebrity are you? So I'd go through that 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:29.080 every day by day of life. You just went through once. 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:30.800 Gonna be all with you, man, How are you? And 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:33.119 I'm good, good, good to talk to you. I saw 0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:35.840 I saw your your tweets where you were a little 0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:39.880 fired up about your your alma mater us. What makes 0:20:39.920 --> 0:20:43.760 you most upset about this situation? And I'm quite tired 0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:48.760 of our alma mater us as former players, board of Regents, 0:20:49.000 --> 0:20:51.640 alumni fans, and you know, Dan, I love my Trojans 0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:53.439 and you're familiar with our too. We've talked about it 0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:57.320 for many years. Is the arrogance and pride that we 0:20:57.440 --> 0:21:01.760 think a seventeen year old kid who plays Madden has 0:21:01.800 --> 0:21:04.199 any idea that I played or that we want a 0:21:04.280 --> 0:21:07.880 national championship in seventy eight. They don't care. Hey man, 0:21:07.960 --> 0:21:10.440 you got to do it the Trojan way. Yeah, what's 0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:13.239 the Trojan way? Going? Eight and three and ended up 0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:15.840 in the l PASO And they're playing in a game 0:21:15.840 --> 0:21:18.880 at uteph And I'm being a bit facetious, But Dan, 0:21:18.960 --> 0:21:21.360 that it bothers me because we got to get out 0:21:21.359 --> 0:21:24.400 of that mode of seventeen year old kids had about 0:21:24.400 --> 0:21:26.880 it have about a five year attention span. They want 0:21:26.880 --> 0:21:29.159 to know about name, image and likeness. They want to 0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:31.680 make sure they can play on TV every week, National TV. 0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:33.320 They want to make sure they can play for a 0:21:33.400 --> 0:21:37.120 national title. They want to make sure that the NFL's 0:21:37.160 --> 0:21:40.119 waiting on him, and that you understand what you know 0:21:40.160 --> 0:21:42.680 where they're coming from. The kid at modern day think 0:21:42.680 --> 0:21:45.040 about this, Dan, The kid at modern day knows more 0:21:45.080 --> 0:21:47.399 about the uniforms at Oregon and they're a good program 0:21:47.480 --> 0:21:49.880 than they do about student body. Right, So if you're 0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:52.399 going to be the next coach, you better buy in. 0:21:52.960 --> 0:21:55.600 So the arrogance of us see the history and tradition 0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:57.840 of a program. Those kids can get that when they 0:21:57.840 --> 0:22:00.840 get there. The history for you and I a mullover, Dan, 0:22:01.000 --> 0:22:03.040 Remember when I was in nineteen eighty one and I 0:22:03.080 --> 0:22:05.520 was recruited, And can you say that to a kid 0:22:05.600 --> 0:22:08.240 because no, no, Sean, I didn't even know you did 0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:10.680 that man? Remember? And that's probably the grocery checker kid, 0:22:10.760 --> 0:22:15.400 let alone the recruit. So you've got to understand, Nick, say, 0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:17.920 you got to do the now and what's happening, what's 0:22:17.920 --> 0:22:20.040 going to happen the next five years? For him, that's 0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:22.480 what they want to know. They could care less about 0:22:22.560 --> 0:22:25.639 history and tradition. That's just that's the era we're in. 0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:29.160 And that next coach better understand that any better keep 0:22:29.200 --> 0:22:31.719 guys in one hundred and fifty mile radius in the 0:22:31.760 --> 0:22:35.200 state and in the southern California area and at USC. Okay, 0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:38.600 is this a more key job that you can go 0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:43.320 out and say, hey, we want you, like we can 0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:46.920 pick and choose who we want. Is it a great program? 0:22:47.800 --> 0:22:50.200 It's a dan the name's great. And I don't want 0:22:50.200 --> 0:22:53.720 this to sound conflictory. Conflictory to what I said. It's 0:22:53.720 --> 0:22:56.840 still people still know who USC is. The problem is 0:22:56.840 --> 0:23:00.320 we can't. It's like going in and misplaced when you're 0:23:00.320 --> 0:23:02.960 going through an interview, misplacing what you're trying to sell. 0:23:03.000 --> 0:23:06.000 About your program. I'm not trying to sell Marcus Allen 0:23:06.080 --> 0:23:08.520 Heisman Trophy. When you walk into the Case center, you'll 0:23:08.520 --> 0:23:11.480 see that once we got you on campus, Dan, when 0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:13.560 I was there and before me and after me, with 0:23:13.600 --> 0:23:15.520 all those great players, and it wasn't one of them. 0:23:15.960 --> 0:23:17.960 Like you know, we need dogs in the program. We 0:23:18.040 --> 0:23:20.480