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Speaker 1: a topic, and I know everybody has talked about this
Speaker 1: at one point. Is Tom Brady the greatest football player
Speaker 1: of all time? And you know my point is it's
Speaker 1: he's got the resume. But I think sometimes if you
Speaker 1: phrase the question that way, then you go, well, he's
Speaker 1: not athlete aletic. I mean, well, if that's the case,
Speaker 1: who's the greatest football player of all time? Might be
Speaker 1: Bo Jackson, Because I don't know if there's anybody who's
Speaker 1: been more athletic than him, but he never ran for
Speaker 1: a thousand yards in a season, never played in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl like Dion Sanders. Great of an athlete as
Speaker 1: we've ever seen. So I know that we and I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not trolling you. I'm not putting it out. I
Speaker 1: was just curious with Chris collins Worth and I asked
Speaker 1: him that, you know, do you look at Tom Brady's
Speaker 1: the greatest football player of all time? And he said, yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: no doubt. Pol. Could there be an athlete, an NFL
Speaker 1: athlete who combines both athleticism and resume. And a name
Speaker 1: that just popped into my head was Steve Young from
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. He was at one time the
Speaker 1: best quarterback in the game for about a three or
Speaker 1: four year run. And you know he started late, and
Speaker 1: he also had Super Bowls, he had winning He has
Speaker 1: both resume. Joe Montana doesn't look like a freak athlete.
Speaker 1: Michael Vick is a freak athlete, but he doesn't have
Speaker 1: the resume. Yeah, Steve Young had both athleticism and resume. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he just wasn't not long at that level long enough.
Speaker 1: I mean, Brady has been at that level. You might
Speaker 1: say I mean I find it even more amazing that
Speaker 1: he's not a great athlete in a sport where you
Speaker 1: need to be a good athlete at least. I mean,
Speaker 1: everybody's trying to tear his head off. It comes down
Speaker 1: to I see this defense, I can process this in
Speaker 1: real time. I can beat you with my arm, and
Speaker 1: I can beat you with my intelligence. I know that
Speaker 1: we can't. It's hard to quantify. Okay, somebody is so smart.
Speaker 1: That's not athletic. It's hey, you're playing football, you're athletic. Yes,
Speaker 1: Lawrence Taylor was athletic. Jim Brown athletic. I mean, Randy
Speaker 1: Moss might be the best athlete who's ever played And
Speaker 1: I have no problem if somebody said that Tarall Owens
Speaker 1: might be the best athlete who ever played football. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's just a lot of players. I think when it
Speaker 1: comes down to, is Tom Brady to football what Bill
Speaker 1: Russell is to basketball? Maybe not the best player. And
Speaker 1: Seaton brought this up last hour. Okay, best resume, best winner, big,
Speaker 1: you know, but when it comes to athleticism, it's tricky,
Speaker 1: you know. Chris Collinsworth brought up Babe Ruth Well, Babe
Speaker 1: stole one hundred and twenty three bases in his career.
Speaker 1: Night he just didn't look the part of an athlete.
Speaker 1: But if you win almost one hundred games as a
Speaker 1: pitcher and you bat over three thirty as a hitter
Speaker 1: and hit seven hundred home runs, that's athletic for baseball.
Speaker 1: I mean, shoe hey, Hutani's getting all this credit for
Speaker 1: doing sort of sort of what Babe did. Now he's
Speaker 1: a better looking athlete, he's faster, you know, he's gonna
Speaker 1: throw harder, he's gonna hit maybe longer home runs. But
Speaker 1: does that make him a better baseball player than Babe
Speaker 1: Ruth And the answer, of course is no, because he's
Speaker 1: relatively new in the sport. Yeah, mcclub brady was an
Speaker 1: elite baseball player though he got I know, he went
Speaker 1: in like the eighteenth round. But in the documentary they
Speaker 1: said he would have gone very high if if he
Speaker 1: wasn't committed to football. Yeah, he was a catcher, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know he could have been that. He could
Speaker 1: have been a journeyman baseball player. That's something. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: he's the greatest football player of all times. So he's
Speaker 1: a journeyman baseball player. The greatest football player of old time. Well,
Speaker 1: Dion Sanders is one of the greatest football players all
Speaker 1: the time. He wasn't that great at baseball. He was good,
Speaker 1: I mean he would he would go from a football
Speaker 1: game to a baseball game and a helicopter that was
Speaker 1: pretty good. And bow never played a full season of
Speaker 1: anything but what he did when he played. He'd be
Speaker 1: hard pressed to find somebody who was better than that.
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, the greatest basketball player, wasn't a good baseball player.
Speaker 1: Do we hold that against him? No? Should we? Right?
Speaker 1: Better be careful because he come on the show if
Speaker 1: you criticize Okay, man, we're well past that. Mike's got
Speaker 1: more important things than to stop by here, all right?
Speaker 1: Eight seven seven three d P show the poll question
Speaker 1: from the first hour, is it spilling over to hour two? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had to put up as Tom Brady, the greatest
Speaker 1: football player of all time, said, no, So it's close
Speaker 1: right now. I have another I have some pull options. Okay, uh,
Speaker 1: who is more likely to draft a quarterback next season
Speaker 1: that is playing tonight? The New York Football Giants or
Speaker 1: the Washington football team. I would say Washington. Um, I
Speaker 1: mean it could it could easily be both. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is Daniel Jones's make or break season, but they
Speaker 1: could still keep him for another year. I would say
Speaker 1: Washington football team, because Ryan Fitzpatrick is not your future
Speaker 1: and you're and you're a You're a good quarterback, consistent
Speaker 1: quarterback away from being what I think would be a
Speaker 1: dangerous playoff team. Taylor Heineken is going to start tonight
Speaker 1: against Daniel Jones. And while I like him, he's got athleticism, Uh,
Speaker 1: teammates seemed to like him as well. You're you just
Speaker 1: he's not their future. But I would say probably Washington
Speaker 1: would be that too. Yeah, Polly, if he went by
Speaker 1: Danny Jones, would he be a much better quarterback? Daniel
Speaker 1: Jones sounds like an accounting firm gotta go with Danny
Speaker 1: Jones's slings it. But they gave him Danny Dimes. Like,
Speaker 1: he doesn't strike me as Danny Dimes. Inspection is Daniel Dimes, yes,
Speaker 1: but they call him Danny Dimes. I don't know. Yes, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's an image problem here, like he wears pleated khakis
Speaker 1: and he didn't wait they had a quarterback who in
Speaker 1: Eli Manning? Who was that true? Like Danny Dimes looks
Speaker 1: like he's Eli's cousin. All right, so we'll get to
Speaker 1: some phone calls here. Sean Salisbury's all fired up former
Speaker 1: USC quarterback, and he said yesterday in a tweet, basically,
Speaker 1: these kids don't remember USC being USC as we know it,
Speaker 1: as as older broadcasters were, like, man, how could you
Speaker 1: pass up going to USC? And didn't that a Marquee job?
Speaker 1: And I don't know if it is a mar Key job.
Speaker 1: And if I'm eighteen or nineteen, what are my memories
Speaker 1: of USC? None? When they're really good. None. So that's
Speaker 1: why trying to keep these quarterbacks who go to Clemson
Speaker 1: or Alabama they should be going to USC. And can
Speaker 1: you bring in somebody who is going to bring life
Speaker 1: to that program? And who do you bring in? Because
Speaker 1: a lot of times they promote from within, which is
Speaker 1: nice for their assistant coaches. But if I'm looking at
Speaker 1: program and I say it's an elite program, can I
Speaker 1: bring somebody in? Who do I bring in? Bob Stoops?
Speaker 1: Do you bring in James Franklin? Is urban Meyer actually
Speaker 1: interested in the job? Can you get Matt Campbell from Iowa? Stayed,
Speaker 1: I would love to know if you said, here's our
Speaker 1: dream candidate. Who is that dream candidate for us? So
Speaker 1: we'll talk to Sean Salisbury about that. Everything in today's
Speaker 1: sports media world is accelerated after one game, you know,
Speaker 1: we weigh in on who's the MVP front runners. There's
Speaker 1: power rankings, there's mock drafts, and most of it's relatively harmless.
Speaker 1: Everyone just changes their mind and doesn't look back. But
Speaker 1: when it comes to coaches, there's a lot of pressure.
Speaker 1: When you land on that dreaded hot seat, it's really
Speaker 1: tough to get off of it. Matt Naggy, he's been
Speaker 1: aware of the pressure in Chicago. He's on the hot seat.
Speaker 1: Will it affect his decision at quarterback? Other coaches on
Speaker 1: the hot seat actually one in Week one, guys like
Speaker 1: Vic Fangio in Denver, Zach Taylor in Cincinnati, Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys actually looked pretty good in their loss to
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers. But it's a week to week proposition. So
Speaker 1: even if guys seem safe now, a lot of coaches
Speaker 1: are one bad loss away from being on the NFL's
Speaker 1: hot seat. What's Washington favored by tonight? That like six? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Paul I got Washington given three and a half to
Speaker 1: the Giants. Oh, that's it. That correct, Yes, that's Be's
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones owns Washington. Oh, that's right. He's undefeated. So
Speaker 1: that's that weird anomaly. Okay, he's never he's never lost
Speaker 1: to the Washington football team. Cowboys have lost their defensive
Speaker 1: in Um, was that six to eight weeks that Lawrence
Speaker 1: is out? Yeah, Marcus Lawrence. He got paid and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I think he's sort of been
Speaker 1: pedestrian the last two years because he had a couple
Speaker 1: of years double digit sacks. Yeah, point yeah, twenty seventeen
Speaker 1: and two thousand and eighteen to Marcus Lawrence went for
Speaker 1: fourteen and a half sacks, ten and a half sacks,
Speaker 1: got the big deal two years ago, five sacks, last
Speaker 1: year six and a half sacks. Yeah. What about Zeke
Speaker 1: Elliott McLevin because you know, look I'm out there that
Speaker 1: I'm not. I would never have resigned him. I would
Speaker 1: have just said, thank you, we appreciate all the great
Speaker 1: years you gave us, but we're not giving you a
Speaker 1: second contract. Because he led the league in rushing in
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, he had you know what, fourteen hundred yards.
Speaker 1: But what has he done? And look any running back
Speaker 1: who plays all the game should get a thousand yards.
Speaker 1: That's not asking much. And he's playing behind one of
Speaker 1: the better offensive lines or he has yes mclovin. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The year after that, he went down to thirteen hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty seven yards, eighty four yards a game after that,
Speaker 1: nine hundred and seventy nine yards. Last year, it's sixty
Speaker 1: three yards a game. Any rushed for thirty three yards
Speaker 1: in Week one and they gave him that six year,
Speaker 1: ninety million dollars extension. Oh yeah, No, But isn't the
Speaker 1: flaw drafting Ezekiel Elliot in the top five in the
Speaker 1: first place because he did do what you asked for
Speaker 1: him his first three years, four years, he was an
Speaker 1: All Pro running back. His numbers are fantastic his first
Speaker 1: three years. Yeah, and then you're in the position where
Speaker 1: to satisfy the fans you have to resign him. It's
Speaker 1: like Christian McCaffrey. He was drafted high, he worked out,
Speaker 1: then they had assigned him. Leonard Fordette was drafted high,
Speaker 1: didn't work out great, worked out kind of medium. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they didn't there's no pressure to resign him. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know if we'll see a running back in
Speaker 1: the top five drafted anytime soon. I mean, se Quon
Speaker 1: might be the last. But I don't know if you
Speaker 1: resign him. I wouldn't. But you know, Christian McCaffrey is
Speaker 1: a little bit different because he's he's an anomaly and
Speaker 1: he's the face of the franchise there. But do I
Speaker 1: want to tie up that kind of money with my
Speaker 1: running back? The answer is now, yeah, mcclub. What if
Speaker 1: you consider Alvin Kamara and Christian McCaffrey slot receiver slash
Speaker 1: running backs, could you pay them a little more because
Speaker 1: really that's their value. Yes, I like Kamara, but once again,
Speaker 1: I don't know how much am I paying to keep you.
Speaker 1: And these guys all look at you know what Zeke
Speaker 1: signed for and they're going, I want that. Well, not
Speaker 1: everybody gets that, but Kamara is, you know, one of
Speaker 1: the exceptions that I would look at him as a
Speaker 1: dual threat. Therefore that might be a little bit different.
Speaker 1: I would still use Zeke out of the backfield more.
Speaker 1: I would just try to get him out in space,
Speaker 1: and he's a safety valve for Dak Prescott. But you
Speaker 1: know they are a passing team. Yeah, and Kamara, they
Speaker 1: got for nothing. They got him out of college as
Speaker 1: a low draft choice, so Kamara made four Pro Bowls
Speaker 1: without getting paid. They got his best work for zero,
Speaker 1: basically the Saints. Andrea in New Jersey joins us, leads
Speaker 1: us off this hour. Andrew, good morning, what's on your mind?
Speaker 1: Good morning, and shout out to chat Row and a
Speaker 1: belated happy birthday. Shout out to Jeff in Detroit. All right,
Speaker 1: In my opinion, Brady will never be the best player.
Speaker 1: There's one thing everybody keeps forget, well not everybody, but
Speaker 1: a lot of people keep forgetting is the most important
Speaker 1: consideration is the era. If Joe Montana and Dan Marino
Speaker 1: played today, could you imagine the numbers they would put up?
Speaker 1: I mean, is Brady really going to be able to
Speaker 1: stand up or would have been able to stand up
Speaker 1: against Dick butkiss Jim Brown, mean Joe Green. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can't compare a player from today in my opinion,
Speaker 1: because of the past generations and the rules were so
Speaker 1: much tougher. Right, Well, thank you great phone call, Andrew. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess it's Brady is going to move past Drew
Speaker 1: Brees like he hasn't blown people away with anything other
Speaker 1: than his super Bowls because it's a past happy league
Speaker 1: and he doesn't have all the records. He will, but
Speaker 1: he's played longer than anybody. How would Brady have fared
Speaker 1: back in the seventies, How would Montana and Marino do? Now? Well,
Speaker 1: they would put up great numbers. I mean Montana didn't
Speaker 1: put up great numbers. I think he threw for thirty
Speaker 1: touchdowns in a season maybe once, but it was it
Speaker 1: was a different game. Dan Marino would have every passing
Speaker 1: record in today's game, Dan Marino would you know? They
Speaker 1: would all be trying to catch him. But it's winning
Speaker 1: super Bowls, it's winning playoff games. You know, that's what
Speaker 1: separates Brady. If it's all about winning, then why wouldn't
Speaker 1: it be Tom Brady because he's the greatest winner that
Speaker 1: we've had in the NFL. If it's about stats, well
Speaker 1: then that's a different story. Then Drew Brees is better
Speaker 1: than Tom Brady. Peyton Manning is better and we know
Speaker 1: that's not the case. By the way. Drew Brees will
Speaker 1: join us on the program tomorrow. Oh ask Brees who
Speaker 1: was the greatest football player of all time? Do you
Speaker 1: think he says? Tom Brady? Who thinks Drew Brees doesn't
Speaker 1: say Tom Brady, Paulie, No, but I think Drew grudgingly
Speaker 1: says Tom Brady. But he'll say based off the rings,
Speaker 1: rings decide it. He won't admit he's a better quarterback
Speaker 1: than him. You don't think Breeze would say that Brady
Speaker 1: is better than him. Absolutely not Breeze. He'd be the
Speaker 1: last guy to admit it. He would say he's had
Speaker 1: a better career based off super Bowl titles, because that's
Speaker 1: just a fact, that's math. Yeah, but he's Drew's too
Speaker 1: competitive to say someone's better than him. He will hem
Speaker 1: and haw and compliment, but he won't say he's better
Speaker 1: than him. Okay, I was almost willing to bet a
Speaker 1: pie on them that based but you know, Breeze may
Speaker 1: answer it differently, so I get a pie to the face.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I don't know if I want to do that. Yeah. See,
Speaker 1: there's a stat going around on Twitter right now, and
Speaker 1: it's a highlight of one of Jamis Winston's touchdown passes.
Speaker 1: It says this touchdown pass from Jameis Winston traveled fifty
Speaker 1: yards in the air. Drew Breese attempted nine thousand, four
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty one passes for the Saints and never
Speaker 1: had one of those. He never had an attempt of
Speaker 1: over fifty yards a completion over fifty yards. They went
Speaker 1: fifty yards in the air, in the air, and then
Speaker 1: I don't know about the run after that. Oh wow,
Speaker 1: nine thousand passes and not one was completed where he
Speaker 1: threw it over fifty almost ninety five hundred. Are you
Speaker 1: sure about that? Are you trusting Twitter? Again? It's from
Speaker 1: a reputable sort. Okay, let me take a break. More
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Speaker 1: tv dot com to sign up. Yeah. I had one
Speaker 1: of those embarrassing moments where you play in a celebrity
Speaker 1: ProAm golf tournament and I'm thinking I'm the celebrity. I'm
Speaker 1: playing in New Hampshire. Uh, you know, hooting the Blowfish
Speaker 1: is playing in you know, there's other guys in there.
Speaker 1: And I get to the fifteenth hole and I said
Speaker 1: to one of the guys I'm playing with, I said, so, so,
Speaker 1: what do you do for a living? You know, I'm
Speaker 1: the celebrit do you got to engage the people of
Speaker 1: your PLAYMT, So what do you do for a living?
Speaker 1: And Dan Brown goes and I don't know. I just
Speaker 1: know his name's Dan. And he goes, uh, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: a writer. I said, oh wow, I said, I read
Speaker 1: anything that you've written. He goes, U the da Vinci code. People, Oh,
Speaker 1: he's the celebrity. And then you can't go, um, I'm
Speaker 1: not familiar with the da Vinci code. Damn. I was
Speaker 1: so mad. I'm just like, he's the celebrity. Damn it.
Speaker 1: I know that. I say, Hey, jk J, that's an
Speaker 1: interesting name. What do you do? Are you a writer? Oh?
Speaker 1: Harry Potter? Oh well thank you me, clem hey. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it would have been good if we just stopped right there.
Speaker 1: And I made the segue to Sean Salisbury once you
Speaker 1: doing todd things? Uh. Sean Salisbury, former NFL quarterback and
Speaker 1: host the Sean Salisbury show in Sports Fox seven ninety
Speaker 1: in Houston and the former USC quarterman, Hi, Sean, Hey,
Speaker 1: you dude, I've listened to you talking about Dad Broud. Hi.
Speaker 1: I'm Sean. You're James Patterson. Uh, here's my problem, Dan,
Speaker 1: I went to I went to h EB grocery store
Speaker 1: the other day. I thought the same thing, and the
Speaker 1: grocery checkout guy says, well, I'd check out grocery. What
Speaker 1: kind of celebrity are you? So I'd go through that
Speaker 1: every day by day of life. You just went through once.
Speaker 1: Gonna be all with you, man, How are you? And
Speaker 1: I'm good, good, good to talk to you. I saw
Speaker 1: I saw your your tweets where you were a little
Speaker 1: fired up about your your alma mater us. What makes
Speaker 1: you most upset about this situation? And I'm quite tired
Speaker 1: of our alma mater us as former players, board of Regents,
Speaker 1: alumni fans, and you know, Dan, I love my Trojans
Speaker 1: and you're familiar with our too. We've talked about it
Speaker 1: for many years. Is the arrogance and pride that we
Speaker 1: think a seventeen year old kid who plays Madden has
Speaker 1: any idea that I played or that we want a
Speaker 1: national championship in seventy eight. They don't care. Hey man,
Speaker 1: you got to do it the Trojan way. Yeah, what's
Speaker 1: the Trojan way? Going? Eight and three and ended up
Speaker 1: in the l PASO And they're playing in a game
Speaker 1: at uteph And I'm being a bit facetious, But Dan,
Speaker 1: that it bothers me because we got to get out
Speaker 1: of that mode of seventeen year old kids had about
Speaker 1: it have about a five year attention span. They want
Speaker 1: to know about name, image and likeness. They want to
Speaker 1: make sure they can play on TV every week, National TV.
Speaker 1: They want to make sure they can play for a
Speaker 1: national title. They want to make sure that the NFL's
Speaker 1: waiting on him, and that you understand what you know
Speaker 1: where they're coming from. The kid at modern day think
Speaker 1: about this, Dan, The kid at modern day knows more
Speaker 1: about the uniforms at Oregon and they're a good program
Speaker 1: than they do about student body. Right, So if you're
Speaker 1: going to be the next coach, you better buy in.
Speaker 1: So the arrogance of us see the history and tradition
Speaker 1: of a program. Those kids can get that when they
Speaker 1: get there. The history for you and I a mullover, Dan,
Speaker 1: Remember when I was in nineteen eighty one and I
Speaker 1: was recruited, And can you say that to a kid
Speaker 1: because no, no, Sean, I didn't even know you did
Speaker 1: that man? Remember? And that's probably the grocery checker kid,
Speaker 1: let alone the recruit. So you've got to understand, Nick, say,
Speaker 1: you got to do the now and what's happening, what's
Speaker 1: going to happen the next five years? For him, that's
Speaker 1: what they want to know. They could care less about
Speaker 1: history and tradition. That's just that's the era we're in.
Speaker 1: And that next coach better understand that any better keep
Speaker 1: guys in one hundred and fifty mile radius in the
Speaker 1: state and in the southern California area and at USC. Okay,
Speaker 1: is this a more key job that you can go
Speaker 1: out and say, hey, we want you, like we can
Speaker 1: pick and choose who we want. Is it a great program?
Speaker 1: It's a dan the name's great. And I don't want
Speaker 1: this to sound conflictory. Conflictory to what I said. It's
Speaker 1: still people still know who USC is. The problem is
Speaker 1: we can't. It's like going in and misplaced when you're
Speaker 1: going through an interview, misplacing what you're trying to sell.
Speaker 1: About your program. I'm not trying to sell Marcus Allen
Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy. When you walk into the Case center, you'll
Speaker 1: see that once we got you on campus, Dan, when
Speaker 1: I was there and before me and after me, with
Speaker 1: all those great players, and it wasn't one of them.
Speaker 1: Like you know, we need dogs in the program. We
Speaker 1: got good players. Don't miss understand me, but think about
Speaker 1: four the top quarterbacks in college football. They're all playing
Speaker 1: in the sea. They're playing somewhere else. And it's not
Speaker 1: a knock on slows. It's just the yearly thing we
Speaker 1: used to be. If you came in to think about
Speaker 1: a dog in your backyard, and we need dogs in
Speaker 1: the program. But it used to be that in our backyard.
Speaker 1: If you wanted to take us out of southern California,
Speaker 1: that you had to come in, kick us up, steal us,
Speaker 1: and take us. And here's the recruiting trip, here's where
Speaker 1: you are, here's why you want to play here. Now
Speaker 1: we at s we just opened the gate for you. Oh,
Speaker 1: come on out, man, go on and play for Nick Saban.
Speaker 1: He can waltz into your backyard. When a guy at
Speaker 1: modern day knows more about Alabama's program than he does
Speaker 1: the guys that are within thirty miles or fifty miles
Speaker 1: a camp, we got a problem. Yes, it's still got that.
Speaker 1: It is USC, but we're no longer that guy, Dan,
Speaker 1: We're a guy. It's like the guy the third the
Speaker 1: backup tight end who's trying to be that guy but
Speaker 1: he's not yet. We're now used to be that guy.
Speaker 1: Now we're just a guy in college football that we're
Speaker 1: a guy to to to Oregon, we're a guy to Clemson,
Speaker 1: We're a guy to those programs. And there's a bunch
Speaker 1: of US Florida State, Miami, Texas, Uh, Nebraska, but we're
Speaker 1: at the top of that. So we're still it's still USC,
Speaker 1: but it isn't USC. Ok you gotta recruit hard, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm the I'm the ad. Yeah, there's there's fifty guys
Speaker 1: we're gonna hear and I don't need to repeat the
Speaker 1: James Franklins and a Matt I'd love I'd love to
Speaker 1: interview him. Let me give you a few that I'd
Speaker 1: be really interested in talking to and that I like,
Speaker 1: I need somebody. I don't care if he's sixty five
Speaker 1: or thirty six. I need energy to match the player
Speaker 1: and understand landscapes change. So a sneaky name. Why not
Speaker 1: Joe Brady, young guy everywhere he's been Joe Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1: What he's gonna do with Darnold? And I like him,
Speaker 1: and he's done it quickly and it needs a quick
Speaker 1: turn around. And he will have twenty two first rounders
Speaker 1: a year for Carolina. And who was at the LSU
Speaker 1: and Burrow had that big year. Yeah, I'm just giving
Speaker 1: you a sneak. I'm not giving you the Franklins or Campbells.
Speaker 1: I also am intrigued with Q Freeze. Liberty's doing some
Speaker 1: great things. I like how he's turned it around. He's
Speaker 1: he's coached in big time SEC. But Dan, you know what,
Speaker 1: we guess what Sometimes that baggage, it may be a
Speaker 1: Duffel bag down instead of full three three piece suitcase. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm willing to take a little bit of risk to
Speaker 1: get all the reward USC needs. I like Eric b
Speaker 1: Enemy And here's why no, Southern California continues to get
Speaker 1: denied in the NFL. It takes a lot to bring
Speaker 1: that guy, you know, the NFL coach who's used to it.
Speaker 1: Now he's got to go babysit in college, but Vienemy No,
Speaker 1: Southern California. He knows recruits. And also it's a guy
Speaker 1: with so much energy. I think he be's in his fifties, Dan,
Speaker 1: but when you when you're around him, there's an enthusiasm
Speaker 1: that he's thirty. And he also enthusiasm that he understands
Speaker 1: what these kids want and he can take some of
Speaker 1: what Andy's doing what he wants. I like that. Of
Speaker 1: course I like Jack del Rio because there's a toughness
Speaker 1: about him. Dan, that's another thing we've lacked. We're getting
Speaker 1: our rear end taken to the woodshed physically at the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, and that's not the way it's forced
Speaker 1: to be. You've got to be able to do a
Speaker 1: lot of concepts. But at Nick Saban when he needs to,
Speaker 1: can hand it off eight straight times and wear you out.
Speaker 1: So those are some names, and then you're gonna get
Speaker 1: your Matt Campbell's, You're Mario Christo balls, you know your
Speaker 1: James Franklin's. I get it. I'm intrigued with Brian Dable
Speaker 1: in Buffalo and see what he can do. But does
Speaker 1: he even want to coach college football? So there's some names.
Speaker 1: My guy Jack del Real would be great because he
Speaker 1: understands the landscape and he's tough, and more importantly, Dan
Speaker 1: than just head coach. Please find me a friggin staff.
Speaker 1: You better have guys that want to go spend Friday
Speaker 1: night recruiting. It can't be. Nick Saban is a great
Speaker 1: recruiter and he still does it, but Dan, let's face facts.
Speaker 1: Players recruit Nick Saban now right. I want to be there.
Speaker 1: That's the way it used to be with John Robinson
Speaker 1: when I was there. I want to play for that guy.
Speaker 1: But now it's to the point you really got You
Speaker 1: got to do some legwork. You got to drive to
Speaker 1: Bakersfield and go get that guy. You got to show
Speaker 1: up with modern day at Crenshaw, at Burbham day all
Speaker 1: it's crest speed and we're not doing enough. If Clay
Speaker 1: Helton a good guy, but the leadership has been lost.
Speaker 1: You have got to change it, and it can't. I
Speaker 1: don't care if it's a sexy name. I need a
Speaker 1: guy who understands a player and can recruit the player.
Speaker 1: But also where the mom and dad say ooh, he's
Speaker 1: gonna make a million of name image and like this,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna play for a national title. We can't
Speaker 1: do just the guy. We got to be that guy
Speaker 1: or we'll continue to be chasing teams like Oregon and
Speaker 1: other teams in the PAC twelve. Sean Salisbury, former NFL
Speaker 1: quarterback and of course host of the Sean Salisbury Shows
Speaker 1: ninety in Houston. Hey, how about them Texans? Man? Well,
Speaker 1: Dan probably a one seed in the NFL playoffs because
Speaker 1: we don't overreact on well first week. Dan. The one
Speaker 1: thing I did, and I'll say this out loud and
Speaker 1: screamed to the high events, I think that Tyrod Taylor
Speaker 1: was perfect for what they had to have this year.
Speaker 1: I think he's a more patient quarterback than to Shaun
Speaker 1: Watson because he doesn't have the hero syndrome have to
Speaker 1: make every play, but in the process to Sean will
Speaker 1: make fifty more plays against great teams. I don't know
Speaker 1: how much chance they got against Cleveland. I mean, it
Speaker 1: may be a little bit of Toledo, ver stdor Dame.
Speaker 1: But if they can play like Toledo did, we may
Speaker 1: have a shot. But they're gonna have to do everything
Speaker 1: perfect because I still think Cleveland after their performance, is
Speaker 1: a Final four super Bowl caliber and could be in
Speaker 1: that position. But the Texans better enjoy it. And that's
Speaker 1: why I'm glass half full. Enjoy it. Why you can
Speaker 1: because you may not be jumping and hit your head
Speaker 1: on the ceiling many more times during this season. Great
Speaker 1: to catch up with you is always thanks for in
Speaker 1: the passion. I appreciate it, brother, Thanks for having me
Speaker 1: on that. Sean Salisbury Sports Talk seven ninety in Houston.
Speaker 1: John's all fired up there about his alma mater. You know,
Speaker 1: Keishawn Johnson been all fired up about his alma mater.
Speaker 1: You know it then like you you could walk around
Speaker 1: Southern California when USC was USC. It was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I went to USC. Then all of a sudden, you're like,
Speaker 1: where'd you go to school? I went? I went placed
Speaker 1: in Southern California? Yeah? Where at USC? All the operation
Speaker 1: Varsity Blues? Like did somebody pay for you to get Hey?
Speaker 1: How about that football team there? Yeah, that's sort of
Speaker 1: you wear that pride and and you know, I have
Speaker 1: friends who went to Penn State with everything that went
Speaker 1: on there for a while, you know, you're medicine about
Speaker 1: telling people where you went to school because you used
Speaker 1: to walk around with great pride, like yeah, I went
Speaker 1: to Michigan. You're like, ah, you guys are gonna beat oh,
Speaker 1: stay one of these things. You know, that's just sort
Speaker 1: of how will we do? That's why when I say Dayton,
Speaker 1: people always go, oh, yeah, good party school. I go, yep,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, you guys are good and basketball? Yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: that's it, no real baggage. Yeah, Paul, would you rather
Speaker 1: have a bad rep as a school or no rep
Speaker 1: as a school? Like well, like a school that I
Speaker 1: don't want to pick anyone out, but a school where
Speaker 1: you say something no one no one identifies it at all.
Speaker 1: I went to Southern Illinois University. Not a ton of
Speaker 1: big name athletes come out of there recently, But Salukis
Speaker 1: is the mascot, and it's a weird mascot name. People like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's the team, the Salukis, right, they know that name
Speaker 1: for some reason. Yeah, they don't know what a Saluki is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah they Brandon Jacobs is always a name for it.
Speaker 1: Oh it didn't Brandon Jacobs go there? Ferrari? Or is
Speaker 1: that the Southern Illinois guy? Like every small school is
Speaker 1: one guy. Well, it used to be World Frazier. Oh
Speaker 1: he went to basketball player. Yeah, because they won the
Speaker 1: n I T Yeah, I think with Clyde Frasier. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it feels like every twenty years, twenty five years. Then
Speaker 1: you have another athlete that uh or or you have
Speaker 1: a famous alum. I always say for Darmouth and I
Speaker 1: was like, you know, Jay Fiedler played the best. I know,
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta get another one there. But Ivy
Speaker 1: League doesn't really have like elite NFL or NBA guys.
Speaker 1: Well that's why Ryan Fitzpatrick, Oh you went to Harbor.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, No, My trick is, uh, hey, where'd you
Speaker 1: go to college? I went to school in New Hampshire.
Speaker 1: Then I'm like being kind of humble brag. They're like,
Speaker 1: oh Hampshire, did you go to unh And I'm like, no, Dartmouth,
Speaker 1: it's so obnoxious Dartmouth. Yes, well, you're the only Ivy
Speaker 1: League graduate who doesn't wear it on his sleeve, who
Speaker 1: doesn't on his chest? Yeah, shorts, shorts. I'm embarrassed. And
Speaker 1: I went to Darmouth. Look where I ended up. Department
Speaker 1: is embarrassed by me, trust me, I'm kidding. I'm kidding.
Speaker 1: Are you No? Did your parents ever wonder though? Like
Speaker 1: you graduated from Dartmouth and then you end up on
Speaker 1: this show. At any point did they go like, Andrew,
Speaker 1: what happened? My parents never had one thing about my
Speaker 1: jobs ever until I got here, And you honestly do
Speaker 1: not have two bigger show fans, and Tom and Carol Purloff. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Set It's funny because for me it's the exact opposite.
Speaker 1: It's like, how the hell did you end up there
Speaker 1: West Virginia. That's amazing. Look a look at what you
Speaker 1: did for yourself. I thought you'd be dead. Wait, look
Speaker 1: at you. So your parents were proud that you went
Speaker 1: to West Virginia. Well, no more that I ended up
Speaker 1: here at the damn no, you know. No, they were
Speaker 1: very proud that I got into West Virginia. And they
Speaker 1: weren't proud about my tenure at West Virginia. That could
Speaker 1: have been much better. But they were very proud that
Speaker 1: a school like that accepted me. Yeah. They were like,
Speaker 1: this is awesome. Yeah, I think I'm more proud of
Speaker 1: that I'm sitting here in this chair. Okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: My parents are like, I'm like, yeah, my daughter just
Speaker 1: lost our first tooth. They're like, oh, that's great. Now,
Speaker 1: tell us about the Austrabac interview when he was in studio.
Speaker 1: What was he like? Uh? A couple of phone calls.
Speaker 1: Let's see Bill and Tampa Bay. Hi Bill, what's on
Speaker 1: your mind today? Good morning, Dan and Danet's frequent caller.
Speaker 1: I want to thank you for taking my call yet again.
Speaker 1: I just want to say something to you before I
Speaker 1: get to Brady and Jim Brown. Great interview. I loved
Speaker 1: how you just you ask questions when they needed to
Speaker 1: be asked, but you pretty much let Sean do his thing.
Speaker 1: And I remember growing up everybody was afraid of USC
Speaker 1: and you're right about that. Now. As to Brady, a
Speaker 1: lot of people seem to forget that the first two
Speaker 1: Super Bowls haven't been to Terry won those two Super Bowls.
Speaker 1: They got blown out by the Bears and the first
Speaker 1: one the Giant speed him twice. The defense won the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl against Seattle, they got beat by the Eagles.
Speaker 1: They also, if Atlanta doesn't choke, would have would have
Speaker 1: lost that one. And they Bill, Bill, and thanks for
Speaker 1: the phone call. Brady didn't play against the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 1: That was that was Tony Easton. I believe playing against
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears. Um well, I mean, Brady's old. He's
Speaker 1: not that I know exactly. Brady didn't contribute to that
Speaker 1: one at all. Yeah at his vault, Yeah yeah club Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean Brady though he did screw up that Super
Speaker 1: Bowl against the Packers and Brett Farve ninety six. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he wasn't on the team then either. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why Irving Friar cut his hand or was that
Speaker 1: eighty five? I don't know the the the kitchen knife
Speaker 1: incident with Irving Friar, that's one of those Super Bowl stories.
Speaker 1: We'll take a break. There's Paulie sent me a link
Speaker 1: and I have not clicked on it, and he he's
Speaker 1: baiting me to do it. I will click on it
Speaker 1: during the commercial break and then if you want to
Speaker 1: talk about it, I know what it's about. I just
Speaker 1: and you know I hate list. I will click on
Speaker 1: the link and then we'll discuss when we come back
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Speaker 1: the way, Paulieu was baiting me, tempting me to click
Speaker 1: on this link. It's Rolling Stones top is this five
Speaker 1: hundred songs of all time? Okay? Where do you want
Speaker 1: me to start here? Or stop? Because I think if
Speaker 1: you start at fifty or start at one and look
Speaker 1: at the top fifty, you'll scroll and every once a
Speaker 1: while a seat and says you'll just go what is this?
Speaker 1: It'll make you upset? Yeah, but why do you want
Speaker 1: to make me upset? Um? You know that I don't
Speaker 1: like lists, but you love music. I do respect by
Speaker 1: Aretha Franklin is by their choice, the greatest song of
Speaker 1: all time, which by the way, was written by Otis
Speaker 1: Redding and No Idea, the second biggest song of all time,
Speaker 1: Best song of all time, Fight the Power by Public
Speaker 1: Enemy from nineteen eighty nine. Okay, first of all, who
Speaker 1: voted on this? A collection of Rolling Stone editors and
Speaker 1: experts who are remain nameless at this junction. Okay. Number
Speaker 1: three is Sam Cook. A Change is Gonna Come. Sam
Speaker 1: Cook and Marvin Gay, by the way, my two favorite
Speaker 1: voices I think those are you can't go wrong with
Speaker 1: whenever they sing you can't go wrong. Number five All
Speaker 1: Time is Smells Like Teen Spirit by Nirvana, and I'm
Speaker 1: sure they're factoring an impact of the song, not just
Speaker 1: the song at face value. Bob Dylan's Like a Rolling
Speaker 1: Stone is four. He did that in nineteen sixty five.
Speaker 1: Marvin Gabe What's going On? Is six, and the Beatles
Speaker 1: check in finally at number seven, Strawberry Fields Forever. I
Speaker 1: don't know if I would I would pick that song
Speaker 1: Strawberry Fields like you if you said this is the
Speaker 1: Beatles signature song, wouldn't be Strawberry Fields Forever. Yes? What? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask what song? What would you put there?
Speaker 1: That sounds surpriseman Probably, Hey, Jude, let it be Missy
Speaker 1: Elliott the eighth greatest song of all time with Get
Speaker 1: Your Freak On. That's a curveball. Early Fleetwood Mac Dreams
Speaker 1: is nine Outcast. Hey yeah, they're out the top ten. Wow, Hey,
Speaker 1: Yah's in there before Elton John before. I think they're
Speaker 1: before the Rolling Stones. This is actually my favorite part
Speaker 1: of this list. What is is when you start looking
Speaker 1: at who who like which song, and then they're sort
Speaker 1: of bookended by what other artists so like. Outcast is
Speaker 1: just one tick better than the Beach Boys, God only knows. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's very interesting. Which is one tick better at number
Speaker 1: twelve Stevie Wonders Superstition. The Rolling Stones check in at
Speaker 1: number thirteen with Gimme Shelter. That's their best song of
Speaker 1: all time. If I told you Outcast would be in
Speaker 1: before the Rolling Stones, no offense, you'd be surprised. I
Speaker 1: mean the Kinks Waterloo Sunset is fourteenth, the fourteenth greatest
Speaker 1: song of all time. That is a like an insider's
Speaker 1: well respected indie rock song. I've heard people write about
Speaker 1: what or loose Sunset for the years, which is what
Speaker 1: makes this such a croc Rolling Stone list. The only
Speaker 1: thing that's actually shocking is that Velvet Underground hasn't had
Speaker 1: four songs already. Yeah, that this is such a Rolling
Speaker 1: Stones list. Beyonce with Jay Z, Crazy in Love, Queen
Speaker 1: Bohemian Rhapsody, I'll give you a couple of prints with
Speaker 1: Purple Rain is eighteenth. John Lennon, imagine Robin dancing on
Speaker 1: my own. Excuse me, I don't know Robin. Does anybody
Speaker 1: know Robin I know Robin, I don't know that song though.
Speaker 1: She's a Swedish disco queen Dan Okay, she's had a
Speaker 1: couple of hits, Okay, Dancing on my Own that came
Speaker 1: out in twenty ten, Billie Holiday, Strange Fruit twenty one.
Speaker 1: All right, I'll go up a couple more to twenty five.
Speaker 1: The Ronetts be my Baby. David Bowie Heros. David Bowie's
Speaker 1: greatest song is Heroes. We can be Heros for just
Speaker 1: one day. Like I say, this is one that really
Speaker 1: stands out of me. Right, I'm gonna jump up the
Speaker 1: list a little bit more. And this is what I
Speaker 1: just I just don't believe that am I A Paper Planes?
Speaker 1: Which is an awesome song, a song that I really
Speaker 1: like a lot. It's a great song. I just don't
Speaker 1: believe that that is a hair greater of a song,
Speaker 1: a touch better than Elton John Tiny Dancer, Because somehow
Speaker 1: Elton John Tiny Dancer is forty seven and m I
Speaker 1: A Paper Planes is forty six. That just feels like
Speaker 1: sacrilegious somehow or something. I was calling her Mia for
Speaker 1: the first half hour. Kanye West run Away is in there.
Speaker 1: Joni Mitchell, a case of you that's a great song.
Speaker 1: But does that Joni Mitchell's greatest song? It should be
Speaker 1: Springsteen's Born to Run is in here? Talking Heads Once
Speaker 1: in a Lifetime, Nothing but a ge thang with Doctor
Speaker 1: Dreat song Lord Royals. Okay, hey, yeah, I didn't need
Speaker 1: to see this list. Yeah, Paul Outcast has two songs
Speaker 1: in the top thirty nine songs of all time. The
Speaker 1: Rolling Stones have one, The Beatles have one, Prince has one,
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson has none. Who have none? That's accurate? No too? Wow? Wow?
Speaker 1: Still taking shots at one of my favorites. Zelin in
Speaker 1: the top forty. I don't see them. But Rolling Stone
Speaker 1: famously hates led Zeppelin, don't they? Wow? I think they
Speaker 1: gave him bad review. Every album's gotten a bad review. Yeah. Uh,
Speaker 1: A little Richards in here, the White Stripes, Seven Nation,
Speaker 1: Army Princeton. I would love to know the music inspiration
Speaker 1: of a lot of a lot of these younger artists
Speaker 1: who are in the top twenty five and you're going, wait,
Speaker 1: really who they were influenced by? Otis Redding is in
Speaker 1: here Outcast, Bob Hendricks finally slips in Joy Division, Love
Speaker 1: Will Tear Us Apart, Oasis Wonder Walls ninety five five. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't too high or too low. Michael
Speaker 1: Jackson is at forty four. Michael Jackson checks in. He
Speaker 1: made it into the top fifty. Yep, we're Canadian rock
Speaker 1: bands not included in this list. No Rush. Is that
Speaker 1: a disclaimer? I don't see Neil Young either, Paul all righty,
Speaker 1: I didn't need to see this list. Final hour coming up.
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