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Speaker 2: Like I'm not lacking anything, now do I keep adding? Yes?

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Speaker 1: But I never have been in a place where I

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Speaker 3: Hey, everyone, Emily Abbadi here you are listening to episode

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Speaker 3: three hundred and twelve of Hurdle, a wellness focused podcast

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Speaker 3: where I talk to inspirational people about everything from their

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Speaker 3: highest ties and toughest moments to essential tips on how

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Speaker 3: to live a healthier, happier, more motivated life. We all

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Speaker 3: go through our fair share of hurdles. My goal through

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Speaker 3: these discussions is to empower you to better navigate yours

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Speaker 3: your own big potential and of course, have some fun

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Speaker 3: along the way. For today's episode, I am bringing you

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Speaker 3: a conversation that has me hype. It is with my

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Speaker 3: girl Ari Chambers. She Oh my goodness, what doesn't Ari

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Speaker 3: founder of Highlight Her.

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Speaker 4: She's also talking.

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Speaker 3: About women's sports over on ESPN in addition to a

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Speaker 3: number of other places. She's the ultimate WNBA hype girl,

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Speaker 3: and during this summer's games, Ari was working with Team

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Speaker 3: USA as a creator, bringing you so much unbelievable content

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Speaker 3: from both the Team USA house and all around Paris.

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Speaker 3: In today's episode, we talk about how We talk about

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Speaker 3: how Ari got to this point, what motivated her to

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Speaker 3: and Ari gets candid about the highs and lows that come.

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Speaker 3: We talk about the proudest moments in Ari's career year,

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Speaker 3: plus what it's really like to have so much great

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Speaker 3: that was recorded inside Athleta's Power of She studio space

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Speaker 3: in Paris, So of course got to give a huge,

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Speaker 3: huge thank you to the team at Athleta as always

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Speaker 3: for supporting me and empowering me to bring some really stellar.

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Speaker 3: single Friday. Plus follow along with Hurdle over on social

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Speaker 3: it's at Hurdle Podcast and I am over at Emily

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Speaker 3: a body with that.

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Speaker 4: Let's get to it. Let's get to hurdling today. I

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Speaker 2: We're great. We have our sisters in Paris. It's so fun.

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Speaker 4: It is really hot.

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Speaker 3: I know it's a little seem me here in the

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Speaker 2: We're doing it, you're doing it. Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Can we talk about I want to hear, I want

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Speaker 1: So for the past few years I've been doing long form,

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Speaker 1: hired a nice little team. And I always think it's

441
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,359
Speaker 1: funny because men they hire their friends, so why can't we?

442
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Speaker 1: And so I think that by having because Kashian wanted

443
00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,840
Speaker 1: to go to med school, poor baby, Sorry Christian, But

444
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,679
Speaker 1: the fact that I was able to hire her and

445
00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,840
Speaker 1: start her in sports and now she found her love

446
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 1: in sports coverage. She used to run track professionally, and

447
00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,479
Speaker 1: so helping her ease that transition outside of track. She

448
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,639
Speaker 1: moved from Florida back to North Carolina, so she was

449
00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 1: able to start a life that was still sports adjacent

450
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,159
Speaker 1: that filled that hole for her.

451
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Speaker 2: I'm assuming.

452
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Speaker 3: I mean you can relate to it as well, going

453
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Speaker 3: through a time period where oh yeah, I.

454
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Speaker 4: Loved cheerlead Emily.

455
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Speaker 2: Is this a therapy?

456
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,440
Speaker 4: Oh my god, you were just surprising.

457
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 3: You were just showing up for her in a way

458
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 3: that maybe at the time you almost wish someone could

459
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 3: have shown up for you so completely. A really beautiful,

460
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 3: full circle moment there for you, and also another testament

461
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:24,879
Speaker 3: to your firm belief and standing in uplifting other women.

462
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Speaker 4: Right.

463
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Speaker 3: You said so eloquently when we started our conversation how

464
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Speaker 3: important it is to befriend people in a way that

465
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:34,879
Speaker 3: when you're not sitting in the room with them, they

466
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 3: have good things to say about you. You want to

467
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Speaker 3: be in the same circle with women who are going

468
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,479
Speaker 3: to uplift you in a room that you're not in,

469
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Speaker 3: and I think that that's so valuable and something that

470
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Speaker 3: you also live by, and that's great.

471
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Speaker 1: I don't understand why people don't keep around good company.

472
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Speaker 1: It confuses me because, like I said, I have the

473
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Speaker 1: same friends best friends since ninety six, and then my

474
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Speaker 1: other friend like Kivo boy, can she's my other best friend?

475
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:57,360
Speaker 2: Have to CHRISTANV.

476
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Speaker 1: And Kiev, and Kiev's been my best friend since O five,

477
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Speaker 1: so like in Jasmine Leonard since what O one, So

478
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Speaker 1: like I have my core.

479
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,120
Speaker 2: Group of friends is keeping I have tabs.

480
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Speaker 1: I'm like a your person, you know how like I

481
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,679
Speaker 1: can tell you exactly the song yere it is so weird.

482
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Speaker 2: It's weird my brain.

483
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Speaker 1: But I keep around people that have the best intentions

484
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 1: for me, that I know that I can trust, that

485
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,880
Speaker 1: will keep me honest, keep me fair, keep me exposed

486
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Speaker 1: to things that I might not have the perspective on.

487
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,399
Speaker 1: And I never understood why people were addicted to like

488
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Speaker 1: toxicity in anything but positivity, because like, you don't have

489
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Speaker 1: to live like that.

490
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Speaker 2: If people's energy and it's okay, Like some people's.

491
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Speaker 1: Energy don't don't they don't match and it's and it's

492
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Speaker 1: fine to just not be surrounded by those people and

493
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Speaker 1: that doesn't make them bad people. But like, just find

494
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Speaker 1: people that match your energy that I hope you want

495
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 1: to be better. Like my whole crew, especially China, Andrea, Monica, Angel, Christine,

496
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Speaker 1: all of them.

497
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Speaker 2: We just it's great, it's crazy, it's the sister. It

498
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Speaker 2: doesn't have to be overly complicated.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to bring us back to what you

500
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,679
Speaker 3: mentioned could have been an unhealthy time for when you

501
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 3: were working yourself into the ground.

502
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Speaker 1: What were the signs, Well, I'm still doing that, I'm

503
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 1: still working through that. I'm not gonna lity you know

504
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 1: the fan bama out there to say like I have

505
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: a healthy balance, because I don't. But the signs were

506
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 1: just like I was just miserable, like I couldn't get

507
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 1: out of bed, but I was still performing.

508
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,120
Speaker 2: So it was like, thank god my job was virtual then.

509
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Speaker 1: And then like for TV, they have hair, they have

510
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 1: a whole team to hair and makeup wardrobe. Me and

511
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 1: I would be able to mask it like we wear the

512
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 1: mask whenever you're depressed. You just you just go through

513
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Speaker 1: the motion. And I didn't want to go through the

514
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Speaker 1: motion of things. That is how it was a good indicator.

515
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Speaker 1: And then those who haven't experienced it, contract renegotiation is

516
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 1: very difficult, and I went through like three iterations before

517
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Speaker 1: I left and am at the company that I'm at now,

518
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 1: and every single contract renegotiation was really hard for me

519
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 1: to get into bed because it really quantifies what you're worth.

520
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: Is that's the dark side of like TV and media.

521
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Speaker 1: You see the number that's placed on your head. And

522
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 1: if you feel like you're undervalued, then what do you do?

523
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Speaker 2: What do you do?

524
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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that my previous company undervalue me.

525
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like seeing numbers attached to your likeness

526
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 1: is a really really humbling thing. And to be able

527
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Speaker 1: to make it through that knowing that you're overperforming and

528
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 1: still seeing like there's a discrepancy between what you think

529
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 1: you're worth versus what you're getting paid is like a

530
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Speaker 1: little troublesome.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean completely understandable. And again, thank you for

532
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Speaker 3: sharing that. You use the D word depression. Would you

533
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Speaker 3: say that you at that point considered yourself depressed?

534
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Speaker 2: I was clinically depressed.

535
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I didn't know, Like, I didn't know how

536
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 1: bad it was until I talked to somebody. And then

537
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: I am severely introverted. And I know it doesn't read

538
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 1: that way, but I am a severe introvert. So I

539
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: would be exhausted on top of depression, and then my

540
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: anxiety too, and so it was a lot piled on.

541
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Speaker 1: And I don't like taking medicine and stylling my thing. Oh,

542
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 1: I also don't like seeing doctors. And it's the whole thing,

543
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 1: but like it was hard for me to figure out

544
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Speaker 1: a way to work through it, and I was able

545
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Speaker 1: to do it with things like the run clubs that

546
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: we were a part of, the things like I would

547
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: go to dance workouts and still get that performance factor

548
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: and like be able to have like an audition eight

549
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: to present to the class at the end. Like I

550
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: can't do a zoom a moment because there's no in

551
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 1: goal to that. So like like I need I need

552
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 1: to learn a couple of accounts and be able to

553
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: perform at the end. And then I also like circ fitness,

554
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,199
Speaker 1: which is the anti gravity yoga and the lera and

555
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: things like that helps that itch of like gymnastics and

556
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Speaker 1: cheerleading for me.

557
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Speaker 4: So the movement was really medicine for you.

558
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know. I mean those pills are still

559
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 2: in the cabinet. I get it, and they are untouched.

560
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Speaker 4: I get it.

561
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Speaker 3: You know, there was a time in my life where

562
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 3: I was dealing arguably with depression, but it manifested as

563
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 3: insomnia and I was just not sleeping at all. I

564
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 3: was going through arguably like a very emotionally abusive relationship candidly,

565
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Speaker 3: and so it's.

566
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Speaker 2: That's what you experience. That's the truth.

567
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Speaker 3: So I was going I was going through an emotionally

568
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Speaker 3: abusive relationship at the time, and I went to a

569
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Speaker 3: doctor and was prescribed medication and actually had a conversation

570
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Speaker 3: after I left that day with someone who asked me

571
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Speaker 3: to articulate how I was feeling. And it felt like,

572
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 3: for the first time in a long time, someone had

573
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Speaker 3: wanted to talk about my emotions. And I realized after

574
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 3: having that really beautiful, vulnerable conversation about how I felt

575
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 3: in that moment, for me was enough, and that if

576
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 3: I kept talking about how I felt, then maybe it

577
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 3: would get better and maybe I would sleep. And the

578
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Speaker 3: first time that I slept through the night was that

579
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Speaker 3: evening after that conversation. So everyone has a different lived experience,

580
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Speaker 3: and there are so many different ways to treat what

581
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,959
Speaker 3: might feel like or what is alone, but that doesn't

582
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 3: mean that one way is better than.

583
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Speaker 1: The I want to pause on that because I saw

584
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Speaker 1: this TikTok the other day shout at the content where

585
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: it's saying, like, identify exactly how you feel. So like

586
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: when we're like I'm mad, they're like, no, let's unpack that.

587
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: How are you really feeling? And like when you're arguing

588
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: with a partner of things, and the woman was talking

589
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: through her emotions and then she landed on I was embarrassed.

590
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: And so being able to just identify exactly how you're feeling.

591
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: Taking a beat to unpack and delayer everything is really

592
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: important going forward with emotions and going through every day

593
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: light life. And then when you do take that beat,

594
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 1: it allows you to slow down too and really get

595
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 1: into the root of everything.

596
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 3: Get into the root of everything is everything and understanding

597
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 3: that what might work one day might not work the

598
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 3: next day at all, like yesterday, just like yesterday's prices

599
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 3: in today's price period, like they're gonna have highs and lows.

600
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 4: But that is the human experience, yep.

601
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 3: And so like we have the opportunity to figure out

602
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 3: the right way to respond for ourselves.

603
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 4: Absolutely in that moment, absolutely now.

604
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 3: Knowing that you were really burning the candle levelth ends

605
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 3: and then you brought on the help of your two

606
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 3: of good friends.

607
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 4: We're able to hire other talented women. What changed for you.

608
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: Shared experience. I don't have to explain the struggle. I

609
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: can distribute, like La China always says, outsource, which you

610
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: don't want to do so I was able to outsource

611
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: a little bit of below. We were able to mutually

612
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: inspire each other to create great work. There's a beautiful

613
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: thing that happens when you add other perspectives. And so

614
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 1: where I would be really strong with gymnastics, cheerleading and basketball,

615
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: Chashan would be really strong at track, Jazon would be

616
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: really strong at rugby. It would be it's different perspectives

617
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: that come together that make a better product. And like

618
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: the hard headedness that I would normally have delegating you know,

619
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: tasks and assignments and things like that, they were able

620
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: to unpack that and just be like, no, let's do

621
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 1: it this way.

622
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 2: And I was able to be receptive.

623
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Speaker 1: And so just the allocation of assignments and just the

624
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: balance that is there, and the mutual inspiration.

625
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, the mutual inspiration is huge.

626
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 3: And being able to kind of be in the trenches

627
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 3: with other people, as you know, is so so helpful. Absolutely,

628
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. So as then this also increases the audience, Yeah,

629
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 3: it does of highlight her.

630
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 4: So now you're really cooking with gas.

631
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and as you continue to cook with gas, what happens.

632
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 4: For the brand?

633
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: It monetization Now I'm just kidding, but I know I'm

634
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: not kidding, but it scales up and so it just

635
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: shows the importance of women and girls in sport. And

636
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: I would argue that it was a big foundational block

637
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: of why women's sports is growing so rapidly.

638
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 2: I will take ownership of that.

639
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: I think that that is truly something that we can

640
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: pat ourselves on the back for because between us and

641
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: Together and the other platforms that really perpetuated women's sports forward,

642
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: you put a pressure on a lot of bigger brands

643
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: who would have otherwise overlooked women's sports. And the fact

644
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: that Highlighter had the opportunity to do it on all ages,

645
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: levels of abilities, and sports, it showcased that it didn't

646
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: have to be reliant on just basketball. Basketball is not

647
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: the only monetizable sport out there.

648
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 2: And then I.

649
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: Got opportunities, like I was talking to Women's Sports Foundation

650
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: conference one day and I was telling them my mission,

651
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: I cover all ages, levels, abilities and sports, and in

652
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: the front Maggie Stevens was like, actually, you've never covered

653
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: us women's water polo. And I love that, And I

654
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: love the accountability that comes with being the face of

655
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Speaker 1: a brand, building a brand like that, because it is

656
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: glaring when we leave people out, and I'm so happy

657
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: that she did that. And in turn, if y'all check

658
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: out Athlete Voices with Team USA, we were able to

659
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Speaker 1: sit down and just share the rich storytelling behind that,

660
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Speaker 1: and then Flavor Flav caught on and now he's sponsoring them,

661
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: and it's just all it needs is a little bit

662
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: of visibility, and I'm glad that we were one of

663
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: the vehicles for that, and I think that it really

664
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: was a significant building block into like the trajectory of

665
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: women's sports right now.

666
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 4: How does that make you feel?

667
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 2: I'm proud.

668
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: I'm still recognized that we have a long way to

669
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: go with women's sports, but I am proud because it's

670
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: never about me.

671
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 2: Like I am no longer with Highlighter.

672
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: I stepped away from it, but I can recognize that

673
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: I can step away from it because it was never me.

674
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 2: It was always the community and the community we've.

675
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: Built I was proud to say was our community, Like

676
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: it was never something centering me, And so that's what

677
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: I'm most proud of. I'm most proud of women being

678
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: able to find space for themselves within that.

679
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you said you're good with it. How does it

680
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 3: feel when you see it without you?

681
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: Oh, it's fine, it's fine. I just know that every

682
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: iteration of my life I have to accept right. So,

683
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: like just like with cheerleading and it pushed me out,

684
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: that's one thing with Highlighter and me wanting to grow

685
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: in a different direction, but still like scale up my

686
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: vision for things like I have to go where my

687
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: story is being written and I can't force stay somewhere

688
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: where it's in good hands.

689
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: It's in great hands.

690
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: It still has the space for everybody that I intended

691
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: it to have. And there are people there who really

692
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: care about women's sports, and that is That's how I

693
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: know I made my mark. That's the legacy that I

694
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: left behind on Warner Brother's Discovery. I know that there

695
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: are people now that care about women's sports that did

696
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: not otherwise care. And so I did my part there

697
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: and it was time for the next iteration, and so

698
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: I look at it with pride. I look at it

699
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: with like it's they're solace there knowing that it's going

700
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: to be fine.

701
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, what does a balance look like for you?

702
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 2: I don't have a girl.

703
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: Balance looks like four lattes a day and holding my

704
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: dog and just hoping that.

705
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 2: I stay afloat. But I'm learning. I just I don't know.

706
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 2: I have no idea.

707
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, do you want to know?

708
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 2: I do want to know.

709
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: I just want to the problem with me, and I

710
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: think this is like an internal battle. Is with performance

711
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: based things, you're constantly trying to prove yourself. I think

712
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: that that comes from the gymnast in me, the cheerleader

713
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: in me, where it's constantly having to hit that well

714
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: for Chuity's one hundred point performance, which never happens.

715
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 2: You just don't get even if you hit zero, you

716
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 2: just don't get it right.

717
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: With gymnastics like they're now with elite scoring, you just

718
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: never know what the highest thing is. So it's just

719
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: constantly trying to perform and be the best every single day.

720
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 2: So I don't I don't know.

721
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,479
Speaker 1: I don't know when it's going to be like I

722
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: can just relax because I have the energy to continue

723
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: to go, but I don't want to expel too much

724
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: energy that I'm burnt out by thirty seven.

725
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 4: So I'll refram. How do you want to feel?

726
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: I want to feel relaxed knowing that my career is

727
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: gonna be okay, and the women's sports is going to

728
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: continue to grow and not be a trend.

729
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 3: What leads you to believe that if you found more

730
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 3: time to relax that that couldn't happen.

731
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: You know, this is turning into therapy here I am.

732
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, Emily, I'm here. You let's win a marathon.

733
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 4: You don't need to run a marathon, relax.

734
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 3: I'm just asking you questions to me, encourage you to

735
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,959
Speaker 3: ask yourself almost what can I do so that I

736
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 3: can keep showing.

737
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 2: That yeah, I do.

738
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: I do need to figure that out. And it's funny

739
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: because when I went to ESPN and An scaped, I

740
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,239
Speaker 1: was like, where's the work? And I was panicked and

741
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: they're like, honey, you have three assignments with You're fine

742
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: his talent, Like, we accept assignments to real and I

743
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: realized that's the healthy amount of work, not fifteen hours

744
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: a day. And so it was just a very hard

745
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: switch that I'm adjusting to and I'm learning. Monica McNutt

746
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: is my best friend that lets me know, hey, girl,

747
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: have you taken the vacation this quarter?

748
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: Because I'm going I'm going to Turks. Are you coming?

749
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 4: Like?

750
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: That's Monica Monica's like, oh girl, I'm gonna plan. I'm like,

751
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 1: are you going this event?

752
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 4: Girl?

753
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna plane with my man. I'm like, okay, girl,

754
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 2: do you get thing?

755
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: But she has perfected balance or she is way farther

756
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: along than a lot of us, and so that's kind

757
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 1: of my north star with lifestyle balance. So I hope

758
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: to get there someday. But again, you look at her career,

759
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,720
Speaker 1: and I know comparison is crippling, but that is somebody

760
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: who's irreplaceable. I know, I recognize that I am as well,

761
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 1: but I feel like because of the women's sports fight

762
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: is so much. It's so much in general, I still

763
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: have to fight for women's sports until it's like at

764
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: a healthy spot where people won't just give up on it.

765
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 4: I love that sentence. I know that I am as well.

766
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 3: I am statements as I call them something that I've

767
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 3: really been incorporating into my regular routine lately. For me,

768
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 3: especially if I have anxiety before sitting down to do

769
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 3: a big interview or if I'm even going out for

770
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 3: a run that feels like I'm about to climb Mount Everest,

771
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 3: I'll sit down and I'll literally physically right down, like

772
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 3: eight things I know to be true, like I am

773
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 3: capable of running existence, or I am really good at

774
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 3: my job. I am someone who gets paid to do

775
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 3: these things right. And so I see all these facts

776
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 3: and it helps me negate the gremlin that we call

777
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 3: it that's in your head.

778
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 4: So for you, if you had to say, like four.

779
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,439
Speaker 3: I AM statements about what makes you great as ari

780
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 3: for your job, what are your I AM statements?

781
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: I'm audacious af' I don't think I can guess here.

782
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: It looks so so like audacity is like my power

783
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: work because that is one thing that I've always had,

784
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: is audacity. I am irreplaceable, I am powerful, and I'm whole.

785
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: Like I'm not lacking anything, now do I keep adding?

786
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 2: Yes? But I don't.

787
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: I never have been in a place where I thought

788
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,919
Speaker 1: I was lacking. And that's something that is funny because

789
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: my mensis come up to me and like, how are

790
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: you so confident? I was like, I don't understand how

791
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 1: people aren't like that is something like I have never

792
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: lacked confidence. I have never lacked drive. I've never lacked anything.

793
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: The resources I didn't have I acquired. So it's like

794
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: and I understand that's privileged to even have that perspective,

795
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: because it's a.

796
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 2: Whole thing with the psychology and having your basic means.

797
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: Meat anyways, But I recognize that that audacity and that

798
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 1: lacking nothing comes from a place of privilege. But I

799
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: want everybody to know that they can achieve whatever they

800
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: want to achieve with their I am statements. But the

801
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: journalism me wants to know what is the most anxious

802
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: that you've been?

803
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 2: Like, what interview really threw you for?

804
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 4: She's about to try to flip this.

805
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't doubt that. I can't try to be

806
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 2: patient about it.

807
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 3: I must like let her podcast for just a minute. No,

808
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 3: I mean the most nervous I've ever been. There have

809
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 3: been a few that come to mind.

810
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 4: One of them.

811
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 3: I got the opportunity to have like one of the

812
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 3: only interviews with Selene Flanning in after she ran the

813
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 3: six back to backworld marathons, when they were all in

814
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 3: a very short amount of time over after the pandemic,

815
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 3: and to have that time with her, I was like,

816
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 3: so many people would have killed for this time, and

817
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,760
Speaker 3: not only did I have the time, but it was live,

818
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 3: so it was like, Okay, we are going into this

819
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 3: like as prepared as possible, and that was definitely an

820
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 3: I AM day.

821
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 4: But you know, I mean.

822
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 3: They come and go right, and sometimes it's I mean,

823
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 3: I get excited about everyone that I have the opportunity

824
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 3: to speak with, but candidly, sometimes it's just like other

825
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 3: things that are going on in your life that that

826
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 3: foster that anxious feeling that you can then unintentionally bring

827
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 3: to the table as you have an opportunity to sit

828
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 3: down with someone. And I never want what's going on

829
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 3: in the outside to be the thing that informs how

830
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 3: I elevate someone. Let's call it on the inside when

831
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 3: we sit down in person. So I would say Shalaine

832
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 3: in this instance.

833
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: But you know, people do not realize a compartmentalization. It's

834
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: necessary to be a journalist. It's very difficult and it's

835
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: funny because we help amplify, we help open up space

836
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: for people so much, but a lot of times we

837
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: don't have that space for ourselves because I'm an impath too,

838
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 1: so like between introversion and impath and like not having

839
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: balanced Jesus, I don't know how I'm still like not

840
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: like not imploded, but it's it's a really complicated relationship

841
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: relationship with our inner feelings.

842
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 3: I love what you said about like so many of

843
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 3: your I am statements were so powerful, and specifically the

844
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 3: one where you were like, I know I am confident,

845
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 3: and you also use the word audacious and that you

846
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 3: have audacity on the days that you're not feeling so

847
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 3: shiny and so confident.

848
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 4: What is it that you do for.

849
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 3: Yourself to help you show up as your best self

850
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 3: knowing what is to be true?

851
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: So my confidence isn't based in like the shininess of

852
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: the day, but I do like to reflect on like

853
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: my blessings and so sometimes if that's just like scrolling

854
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: through your own personal social media and be like wow,

855
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,720
Speaker 1: this is this is great. I remember calling my agent.

856
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: I was like, am I irrelevant? Aaron like literally, this

857
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: is this is this stuff you has to deal with.

858
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 4: Like, am I irrelevant?

859
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: I haven't worked in a week And she's like are

860
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: you Like there's just no there's no assignment, like be

861
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: for real. But then I look back on my social media,

862
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this has been fun, Like this year

863
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: has been great, It's actually been a very successful year,

864
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: or like having my goals checklist and being able to say,

865
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: oh no, I checked that off, and so I know

866
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: your confidence should be based off of a task list,

867
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: but it's something that's like it's not reaffirming that I

868
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: need for being a former athlete, like I need to

869
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: know my score.

870
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: I need to know all that.

871
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: And when you do become talent for a bigger company,

872
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: your producer is not going to give you feedback every time.

873
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 2: It's like, great, okay, see you later.

874
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: And so I know me and Andrea have the same

875
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: situation where like how do we great ourselves for the day.

876
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: And so just knowing that I show up gives me confidence.

877
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: Knowing that, like I've done the things that I said

878
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: I wanted to do, gives me confidence knowing that even

879
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: now I moved into this great apartment and.

880
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 2: I look around, I'm like, dang, girl, you did that.

881
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,280
Speaker 1: And so that gives me confidence knowing that I'm living

882
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: in a way like I went from eating three four

883
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: dollars bananas and not being able to pay rent and

884
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: like moving into it.

885
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 2: I moved into a legal building.

886
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: Back in the day where I knew that if I

887
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: didn't if I missed a couple rent payments, that land

888
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: LAWRD was I legally to me. So it was fine,

889
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: but like moving from that to where I live now

890
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: is completely different. So just being able to acknowledge how

891
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: far I've come is a good confidence boost too.

892
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 3: Again, it's more of writing down or looking at what

893
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 3: you know to be true that helps you stand in

894
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 3: your power when things feel a little bit shaky, which

895
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 3: is amazing. And I can certainly relate to you on

896
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 3: that that moving the upgrading feeling.

897
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 2: You got to come over.

898
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: I'm like so proud, like please come, I got to

899
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: New Jersey. Oh are you a Brooklyn girl? Oh god,

900
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: I don't know that's a Brooklyn and you you're like

901
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: New Jersey? All right, all right, well whatever, we'll work

902
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: on that.

903
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 4: We'll work on that. It's okay.

904
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 3: I can get over my like Jersey feelings to come

905
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,919
Speaker 3: at your crib please. I can like really like get

906
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 3: with you on that feeling of like accomplishment and so

907
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 3: special because I remember, like I mean, I've done so

908
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 3: many within my career and I'm sure that you can

909
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 3: relate to this. We're so meaningful and special and like

910
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,919
Speaker 3: it's truly a bucket list moment. But when I think

911
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 3: about like one of the things that I am the

912
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 3: most proud of, it's like I am proud of like

913
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 3: what I've been able to provide for myself. Yeah, you know,

914
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 3: like we went from like how am I ever going

915
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 3: to live on my own? Not only am I living

916
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 3: on my own, but like I have this whole place. Yeah,

917
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 3: like we're doing it.

918
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 2: My dog has a swivel chair.

919
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 4: Oh Tiger.

920
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 2: Tiger is three.

921
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: Pounds and has this giant swool chair that can sit

922
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: three people.

923
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 4: Three people. We love it. We love it needs a

924
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 4: swivel chair. Tiger has also upgraded apparently.

925
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he's been through like he's fourteen, so

926
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: he was the end of college for me through now.

927
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: So he's been my whole twenties, early thirties together and

928
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: he's there.

929
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 4: Oh my god, my heart strings.

930
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 3: Okay, so these days, what makes you the most excited

931
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 3: about your life in general doesn't have to be your career,

932
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 3: but I feel like you're gonna go that way, So

933
00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 3: I'm going to listen to wherever you.

934
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: Live, so career wise, career wise, I am most excited

935
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: to see where women's sports goes because we're kind of

936
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: in juxtaposition, and so as it grows, I grow. So

937
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: just the scale the potential of that, I'm excited to

938
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: see what relaxation and balance looks like, like the potential

939
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: for it, because I think that I'm almost at that

940
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: point where i can just exhale. Almost but almost, And

941
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 1: I'm going to just throw out my friend aj McCord.

942
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 1: She is a surfing commentator and she's in Tahiti right now,

943
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: but I'm excited for whenever she comes back, us going

944
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: surfing in Hawaii or something, because I like love going

945
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: to North Shore with her and just like doing the

946
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: best I can, do the best you can.

947
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 4: Hey, you don't have to be the best to have

948
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 4: the best time.

949
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a fact.

950
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. I'm really bad, but I can't try. What

951
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: I love most about surfing this is going left. But

952
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: what I love most about surfing is the one time

953
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: I don't have control, and that's like the ocean. You

954
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: cannot fight the ocean. I'm a piscis. My name is

955
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: literally Ario, so I'm meant for the ocean. But that

956
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: is the one thing that I cannot overpower. And when

957
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: that wave wipes you out, you just have the starfish

958
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: and hope the best. And that's what I think is

959
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: so powerful about the sport of surfing. Yes, I started

960
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: very late, like a couple of years ago. But the

961
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: patients in the community that is around surfing, and then

962
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: the patience you have to have with the ocean, because

963
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: it's not patient with you. It's like get out, like

964
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes like get out. Sometimes it welcomes you.

965
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 1: You can't control it. And so that's what I love

966
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: about that sport.

967
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 3: Talk about another sport with a really powerful female presence,

968
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,720
Speaker 3: all right, Yeah, I love the stories that we're hearing

969
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,240
Speaker 3: around the woman within surf.

970
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Chris Moore, Caroline Marx and honestly, like AJ's story

971
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: is really cool too, Like she she is going to

972
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: the Olympics, or she's at the Olympics on her own

973
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 1: dime and has just been really providing great insight into

974
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: what's happening because to eat team is far and like

975
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 1: everybody's focused on Paris twenty twenty four, but what about

976
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: Tahiti and the surfer is there, So she has a

977
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: great insight look at everything that's going on, and she

978
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: surfs herself and so it's just like a real authentic feel.

979
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 2: You know.

980
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 3: What I didn't know until I started to do the

981
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 3: recon this year's Games was that it was just so

982
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 3: spread out. It's like saying that we are going to

983
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 3: have the Olympics in New York City, but the soccer

984
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 3: is going to be in Chicago quickly, and maybe they'll

985
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 3: be surfing like in Washington, DC. And you're like, oh,

986
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 3: so I have to travel twelve hours.

987
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 4: To get to this.

988
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

989
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 4: It's wild, absolutely wild.

990
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 3: With that said, it's so funny to me because you

991
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 3: were like, I'm starting to find balance and things are

992
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,919
Speaker 3: maybe slowing just a little bit, and then you come

993
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 3: take a job like this which is literally like sixteen

994
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 3: hour days running around. Talk to me a little bit

995
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 3: about the different aspects this will go live after the

996
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 3: Olympics are done, but the different aspects that are encompassing

997
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 3: in your role here in Paris.

998
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: So it's funny because I'm so used to being broadcast

999
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: or like journalist journalists. I'm here as a creator, so

1000
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,720
Speaker 1: I'm able to go to the different venues and capture

1001
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: the environment. So everything from the families cheering, the different

1002
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: countries trading pins has been super popular on my TikTok.

1003
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: Just the connectivity that the Olympics every four years and

1004
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: the pride and patriotism of United States citizens and so

1005
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: being able to play witness to that and then supporting

1006
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: truly just supporting the athletes that I've been able to

1007
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: tell their stories over the past few years, being able

1008
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 1: to support them on the stage that they've been working

1009
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: so hard to be on. That's my role, literally showcasing

1010
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: all of that how that looks through a screen to

1011
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 1: the general public around the world. And you know, gymnastics

1012
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: and water polo and track and field and basketball both

1013
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: five on five and three x three are probably my focuses.

1014
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,720
Speaker 2: But I want to you know, beach volleyball, volleyball.

1015
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: I did a TikTok with Carrie and Carrie Walsh, Like

1016
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: that's really freaking cool. I grew up on Kerry Wash

1017
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: and Misty and so being able to meet my idols

1018
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: and icons, and like, I walked the show with Don

1019
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: Staley and me and Don are really close, so like

1020
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: I see, are literally probably more than my own family.

1021
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 2: But to take her into my role for the parody

1022
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 2: walk that was cool.

1023
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: Like having a fashion show in Paris, like it's reminiscent

1024
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: of my days. It's a model only this fashion show

1025
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: had all shapes and sizes. There was a mom, a

1026
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: pregnant mom on the runway. They're like just women celebrating

1027
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 1: the parody that comes from the twenty twenty four Olympics

1028
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: because for the first time it's fifty to fifty representation

1029
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: and so and then women get fifty percent of the

1030
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 1: primetime spots. That's the first time that we've ever done that,

1031
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: right in all these years. You know, that's a story

1032
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: for a different day. But like being able to have

1033
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: these lived experiences in Paris is cool.

1034
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 4: Talk about more vision boarding, huh.

1035
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 3: I know when you if right now you and I

1036
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 3: were gonna sit down and like do some vision boarding,

1037
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 3: what's on the board to come now?

1038
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: You know, it's so funny, And this is why I

1039
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: do them at the end of the year, because I'm

1040
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: so in the movement of everything that I don't want

1041
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: anything else like I have. Really, I am so full,

1042
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, Like there's nothing that

1043
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, I wish I had that right now. Yeah,

1044
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 1: but you come to you somethingere, I'm gonna have another,

1045
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: go another.

1046
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 2: Thing to check.

1047
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 1: I think that for career wise, More NBA countdown being

1048
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: able to be beside the China, Andrea and Carolyn peck

1049
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 1: Moore and Monica and Christine More just more involvement in

1050
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: linear platforms with the ESPN, but also maybe my own

1051
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: show that's always been my thing. It's been on my

1052
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: vision board for the past five years, my own long

1053
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: form sit down show with women athletes, not just WNBA

1054
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: icons but all women athletes. And being able to have

1055
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: that stream on linear for those out there a linear's TV.

1056
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 1: I don't know if they know that, Like I don't

1057
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: know if they know plinear So on network television. So

1058
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: that's that's my career. Hid this guy right now for

1059
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: hopefully the end of this year through early next year,

1060
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: and then I think maybe for next year. Buying some

1061
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: property in California.

1062
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 4: Oh, some property.

1063
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 3: I think I saw something on Twitter once or twice

1064
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 3: about you talking about wanting to be.

1065
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: I almost impulsively bought a house in San Diego, I remember,

1066
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 1: But that's out out of.

1067
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 2: Touch, so I don't like to say it too much.

1068
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, almost just like decided to go.

1069
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: Maybe I should just like not tell people I almost

1070
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,919
Speaker 1: pulsively buy houses. But I don't like to spend money,

1071
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,760
Speaker 1: and so like my money is just sitting well it's investing,

1072
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: but like, yeah, it's there.

1073
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 4: That's a whole other podcast. We're gonna do it.

1074
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, Investing one Investing shout out to Bill Jennings, We love.

1075
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 4: An investment guy.

1076
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, you talked so beautifully before about the beauty that

1077
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 3: comes when people show up. Akaa you showing up for

1078
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 3: different women in sports to elevate their platforms. What would

1079
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 3: you say or who would you say shows up for

1080
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 3: you that helps you be your best self.

1081
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna got all my friends. Ashley Simmons in general.

1082
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: She's always there to give me a hand whenever I

1083
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: need it. La China, Andrea, Monica, Christine Angel, Angel Gray.

1084
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: You still let me stay at her hotel rooms when

1085
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: I couldn't afford to stay anywhere when it's like acc

1086
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: media Day. My other friends like Erica Ayala right now,

1087
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: she's in Paris. She showed up for my fashion show.

1088
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 1: Jaren and Paula from Together showed up. You showed up

1089
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 1: by having me be on this platform. It's just like

1090
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: the company I keep around me. Kashawani, Kiev and Jasmine

1091
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 1: my lifelong friends, my besties, they show up. Jessica Winslow

1092
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: whenever I post something, she always reposted.

1093
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 2: I think that's really dope.

1094
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: I have so many people that show up for me

1095
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: that I don't want to restrict it to a list

1096
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,240
Speaker 1: because it's just like everybody will keep around me, shows

1097
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: up for me, and that's really cool. And if if

1098
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: they stop, that's on them. But like, I just recognize

1099
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: all the work that everybody does. My parents show up

1100
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 1: for me. They don't know what I do necessarily, They

1101
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 1: just like my mom has no idea poor baby. But

1102
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: they show up whenever I'm like, I'm on TV, the dvr,

1103
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: it a DVR itvy.

1104
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 2: My dad gets selfieing with the bar. He's like that

1105
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 2: fine honor. I love the selfies of my dad.

1106
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 4: Oh my god, there's nothing better than parents. They're just

1107
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 4: from the.

1108
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 2: Bar and the TV and the bar, and they're just

1109
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 2: like selfie. It's very precious.

1110
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,720
Speaker 3: Someone comes to your Instagram page, they see a woman

1111
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 3: that is now behind the desk at ESPN let me

1112
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 3: out some of her wildest dreams. When you yourself are

1113
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 3: a look in the mirror, what is it that you

1114
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 3: see looking back at you?

1115
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 1: I see somebody who I always knew I was. I

1116
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 1: see the same person. If you ask anybody, this is

1117
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: what's dope about my life experience.

1118
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 2: If you ask.

1119
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: Anybody from kindergarten, through now. It's the exact same. They

1120
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 1: would have all said that I would be here, and

1121
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: that's and it sounds.

1122
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 2: I don't know how it sounds. I don't care how

1123
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 2: it sounds.

1124
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: But from my teachers, to my classmates, to my best friends,

1125
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,720
Speaker 1: to anybody, they would know that I'd be in this position.

1126
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,959
Speaker 1: I think that I have the luxury of being born

1127
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,760
Speaker 1: this way, Like I have the luxury of being born

1128
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: without a restrictive personality. I have the luxury of being

1129
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 1: born knowing that that girl like it's okay, Like I'm

1130
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 1: that girl, and I love being that girl because anybody

1131
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: could be that girl. Right, you can look in the

1132
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: mirror and say you're that girl, and you would be

1133
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: that girl. It's just the just the knowledge of that.

1134
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: And so when I look in the mirror, I see

1135
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: myself as and she's always gonna be Ari's always gonna

1136
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: be five to fifties. She's gonna be Ari and beyond

1137
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: and beyond.

1138
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 3: You're teaching us anything exactly, never leaving, and I love

1139
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 3: so much. Don't die, Tiger, don't die never never. All Right,

1140
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 3: final question, Oh, I know anything else do you want

1141
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 3: to add?

1142
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 2: I don't know. I might, I might turn it on you.

1143
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 3: But anyway, going right now, Ari, you have the opportunity

1144
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 3: to offer yourself a piece of advice. When we look

1145
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 3: back into that hard grind stage and the initial phases

1146
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:36,399
Speaker 3: of highlight her, you are recognizing that you're doing too

1147
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,439
Speaker 3: much and it's it's a lot. You have an opportunity, now,

1148
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 3: knowing what you know now, to offer that Ari a

1149
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 3: piece of advice. What would you tell her?

1150
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 1: I would I would tell her that no matter how

1151
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: much you're giving, one hundred percent, like your one hundred

1152
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 1: percent is somebody else's three hundred percent. So you can

1153
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: just calm down, you can rest, it's okay to it's

1154
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 1: okay to log out, it's okay to step away. And

1155
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: also the time that you spend on work you can't

1156
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: get back in other places. I will never forget. This

1157
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:09,399
Speaker 1: was back when I was still at MSG. I'm probably

1158
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 1: done too much.

1159
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:10,399
Speaker 2: I do not care.

1160
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: My grandma had passed and I was at work the

1161
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: next day. My grandmama and this is on my dad's side.

1162
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: I passed when I was at work the next day,

1163
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 1: and then to know that turn around. A couple months later,

1164
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,720
Speaker 1: I was let go because of a conflict of contract

1165
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: that wasn't really conflict. People can replace you, and they'll

1166
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: replace you for any motive that they want to replace you.

1167
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: But what you can't replace is the time with your family.

1168
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: You can't replace that at all. All those times I

1169
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: spent in Christmas and Nixmas like we were in a

1170
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: mesag on Christmas and I didn't get to go home

1171
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: to my family. That sucks, right, So I would tell

1172
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 1: myself to log out, go home, pay mine to your family,

1173
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: pay mine to your friends. The virtual will always be

1174
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: there behind the scrram will always be there, but your

1175
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 1: friends and your family probably won't.

1176
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm back to that, come back to I'm

1177
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 3: so happy that we were able to do this.

1178
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I feel like should pay you

1179
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 2: after that.

1180
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 3: Oh my god, we could probably do this for at

1181
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,959
Speaker 3: least another hour, but I'm so grateful for your time.

1182
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 3: I know it's it's a little hectic right now for

1183
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 3: those that don't follow along with you, just yet give

1184
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 3: them the load down on how they find you on

1185
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 3: the socials.

1186
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: I love to continuity, so Ari ivory on every single

1187
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 1: social media platform. My favorite right now is TikTok. So

1188
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 1: if you want behind the scenes of my life, in general, TikTok.

1189
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 3: TikTok, I'm over at Emily a Body, and at Hurdle Podcast.

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00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 3: Another hurdle conquered. Catch you guys next time.