1 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: The following He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys, 3 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the 4 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: Star in Frisco, says, and now your hosts Isaiah Stanback, 5 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's It's a 6 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: Wednesday edition of Talking Cowboys here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 7 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: I'm glad you're with us, as always, presented by Geico, 8 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: and like I said earlier in the week, it's a 9 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: hashtag say it with your chest every day this week 10 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: because the Cowboys have an opportunity to go to the 11 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: playoffs and win the NFC East, and we're gonna break 12 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: down the game in which they need to win in 13 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: order to go to the playoffs, and that's against the 14 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: New York Giants as they come up on the schedule 15 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: this week and the Cowboys travel to Mettlive Stadium. But 16 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: first let me introduce the crew. As always, it's Isaiah Stanback, 17 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: our residence super Bowl Champion, even though I might take 18 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: that title away this week just based off the fact 19 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: that you want it with the Giants, and so I 20 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 1: think I might take that away just for the week. 21 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: I'll give it back to you next week whenever the 22 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: Cowboys get a win. We've got Cowboys inside or Rob Phillips, 23 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,559 Speaker 1: what was that I said? The rings in the safe 24 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: hold that against me? Okay, Okay, it's in the safe. 25 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: It's not out there on your fingers, so that's good. 26 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: And then we've got our professional football analyst, Heckma Harrison 27 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: as always here on talking Cowboys. I'm Kyle Yeoman's glad 28 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: you're with us, and you know it's a it's a 29 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: fun week, and it's been fun over the last three 30 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: weeks for the Cowboys. I mean, three straight wins. You're 31 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: starting to find a bit of a rhythm and things 32 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: are kind of looking up for the Cowboys, even though 33 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: it's not certain that they're going to make it to 34 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: the playoffs. And today I kind of want to bring 35 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: things back down to reality. I want to try and 36 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: find a way to get better from a Cowboys standpoint, 37 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: because even though the Cowboys have had a ton of success, gentlemen, 38 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: there are a lot of ways that this Cowboys team 39 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: can improve going into this final week of the season 40 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: and then of course into what could be the playoffs 41 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: or what could be the twenty twenty one offseason. So 42 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 1: plenty of things to get to here on this edition 43 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: of Talking Cowboys, but I wanted to start off with 44 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: some positive news. As yesterday is Zko Elliott was named 45 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: an award winner on Dallas Cowboys dot com or the 46 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: Pro Football Writers gave Zeke the annual media award, the 47 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: twenty twenty Good Guy Award, as voted on by the 48 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: local chapter of the Professional Football Writers of America. Rob, 49 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: You've had to deal with Zeke, I think more than 50 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: anybody on this show in terms of media and the 51 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,839 Speaker 1: way that he kind of handles himself. What makes him 52 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: stand out as a winner of this award this year. 53 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,119 Speaker 1: He always makes himself available. He's always the first guy 54 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: to talk on Wednesday after their first practice of the week. 55 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: He's always the first guy in the conference call after 56 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: the game, win or lose, no matter if he's got 57 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty yards, if he's got three fumbles 58 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: in the game. So you know, that's what a leader does. 59 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: And you know he's not the only guy who does that. 60 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: Dak has won this award in the past. Tyrold Crawford 61 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: has won this award in the past, but I think 62 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: it stands out even more because for his standards, this 63 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: hasn't been a good year for him. He played well 64 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: last week, but I think he would you know, he 65 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: said there's things he hasn't done well this year. So 66 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: to stand in front the media and answer those hard questions, 67 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: he does it week after week after week. Isaiah. Whenever 68 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: it comes to being a player and having to deal 69 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: with the media, it's not really a normal, usual routine thing. 70 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it usually does provide a little extra emphasis 71 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: to I guess just deal with the media and talk 72 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: to people like me and Rob every single day. But 73 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: whenever it comes to being a player, what were some 74 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: of those challenges that Zeke is now overcome by just 75 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: being one of those guys that's available. Um, I never 76 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: saw it as any challenge, man. I honestly was always 77 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: one to you know, kind of like Zeke and Dak. 78 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: I had no problem being the first one there to 79 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: to speak on behalf of the team. You know, it's 80 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: it's an honor to be to want for somebody to 81 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: want information from you. In that regard, you're not only 82 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: representing yourself, you're representing the organization. I was taught early on. 83 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: You know that every time you present yourself on camera, 84 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: you know, you literally that's that's a resume. Everything we 85 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: talk about the resume on the field, that's your resume 86 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: off the field. You know it's setting you up for 87 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: opportunities later on in life. But you also it's the 88 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: responsibility of representing everybody in that locker room. When they're 89 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: asking you about the team. Guess what, you're the one talking. 90 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: You're the one that they're gonna they're gonna write about, 91 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: but you're speaking holistically about everybody else. So, um, I 92 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: don't I've never seen it as any pressure. I've always 93 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: honestly been a little bit um irritated by guys who 94 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: come a ross kind of harshly in a media and 95 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: and and even in my time in New England, you know, 96 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 1: I respected how Coach Belichick did. He was available, he 97 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: just didn't give you any information. Yeah, And I mean 98 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: going off of kind of the past award winners, and 99 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: Rob had already mentioned a couple of them here, but 100 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, Tyrone Crawford are the more recent members that 101 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: have won this award. Brandon Carr wanted in twenty sixteen 102 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: Jeremy Mincy was a back to back winner. Even des 103 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 1: Bryant won it back in twenty thirteen. So anybody can 104 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: win this award just based off of the fact that, 105 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: uh that you're available and real with the media. And 106 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: I think Ezekiel Elliott is one of those guys that 107 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: is real. Heck bum because no matter what kind of 108 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: game it was, he's gonna give you the truth and 109 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: he's gonna tell you exactly what he's thinking, even though 110 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: there might be a couple of sprinkled in cuss words 111 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: or things like of the sword or frustration in the 112 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: middle of there. No, I think zekeel take that award 113 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: good guy Award. That's that's a lot. I mean, that's 114 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: that's good for him. Man. You just think about all 115 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: the other things that's been written about zeke in the 116 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: past and him maturing and that being a part of it. 117 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: And I know this has everything to do with the media, 118 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: and I'm just just kind of linking this into his 119 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: good behavior lately this year. You know, there's been so 120 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: many things that's been said about him, and so for 121 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: him to get the Good Guy Award, I'm sure he'll 122 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: take it. I agree, and congratulations to Zeke on winning 123 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: this award. But let's talk about how to improve for 124 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: this Cowboys team going into this matchup with the Giants. 125 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: It's a noon kickoff coming up this weekend and on Sunday, 126 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,679 Speaker 1: and then the Cowboys are gonna have to wait around 127 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: until Sunday Night Football to figure out their NFC East fate, 128 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: So lots of waiting after that's over. Should the Cowboys 129 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: get a win? Now? I want to talk about the 130 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: defense and start things off, because yesterday I went back 131 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: and listen to our show, another good show I thought 132 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: from you guys, and there was a ton of great 133 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: insight and analysis there. But we were really positive, thank you. Yeah, 134 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: of course there was. There was a ton of positivity. 135 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying the positivity is wrong because they 136 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: forced to tend turnovers over the last three games. But 137 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: there are ways to improve this defense, rob and there's 138 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: ways that the Cowboys could find a way to be 139 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: better defensively because right now there's only what two three 140 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: good players solid above average players on the defensive side 141 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: of the football that you could argue. But how did 142 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: they somehow improve this defense? Going into an offensively challenge 143 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: New York Giants team. Well, I think the obvious one 144 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: would be just you have to prevent any type of 145 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: big play down the field. I mean that was the 146 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: big ice or in the game last Sunday was the 147 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: eighty one yard touchdown to Deshan Jackson. And you know 148 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: that was an operation in that game. But we have 149 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: seen that happen at times throughout the season. I looked 150 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: it up, and you know, I think they've had it's 151 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: over a half dozen games where they've had they've given 152 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: up a big play of forty yards or more and 153 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: I stopped there. But there's been plays of sixty yards 154 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: and eighty yards and you go back and look at 155 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: that one and it looked like, yes, maybe Cheeto got beat, 156 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: but there was some communication issues too back there, and 157 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: that's usually what happens, and uh, they've got to lock 158 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: that down. I think that's specific to this matchup because 159 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: this is a Giants team that buy and large does 160 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: not create big plays down the field. They don't really 161 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: create them in the running game, they don't create them 162 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,559 Speaker 1: much in the passing game. And you can't give them something. 163 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,679 Speaker 1: You know, you can't allow them to have a chunk 164 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: play to get a touchdown because I think they're only 165 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: averaging like a touchdown and a half per game right 166 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: now or maybe the entire season. They're just not They're 167 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: not manufacturing points. Heck, no, not at all. I mean 168 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: the lower scoring team in the league is the Giants. 169 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: I think the only time that they've ever scoring scored 170 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: thirty points was against US. Okay, so that's uh back man, Yeah, yeah, 171 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: you know, Kyle, I think I think that positivity that 172 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: you're talking about it is that for the first time 173 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: we saw we're not for the first couple of times. 174 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: Now we're seeing our defense get hit and hit back, 175 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: you know. You know, as they even talked about their 176 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: having close to five hundred yards, but the Philadelphia Eagles 177 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: having close to five hundred yards, but that was all 178 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: due to the fact that we had a lead and 179 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: obviously we weren't pressing the same. But the numbers at 180 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 1: the end of the day point to a defense that's 181 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: still struggling with still last in the league against the rush, 182 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: right we're right now, I think passing, we're somewhere around 183 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: twenty seven twenty eight. But then when you turn you 184 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: look at the turnover differential and what we've done with that, 185 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: We've shot all the way up to ten. I believe Rob. 186 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: If I'm wrong, please help correct me. But that's that's 187 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: just indicative of how fast things can turn around. And 188 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: luckily for this defense, they have showed up some of 189 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: those problems that they have. You still have the communication 190 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: issues there and you saw that on the bomb to 191 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: Deshan Jackson, but after that, they got a lot of 192 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: that together and we've been on we've been on our God. 193 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: Jalen Smith in coverage, I thought he did a pretty day. 194 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: I thought he did a pretty good job in coverage 195 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: against their tight ends and playing underneath, and those are 196 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: just the things that he's gonna have to continue to 197 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: do this week, especially with Ingram and Meantlife Azam Yep, 198 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: totally totally agree. Um, And I didn't mention that yesterday. Heck, 199 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought it up, but I wanted to 200 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: make sure we gave Jalen Smith some kudos. I know 201 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 1: we're always on his head beating them down a little bit. 202 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: But he did a heck of a job. I thought 203 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: he was. I thought he was a lot more sound 204 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: in his coverages. I thought he was a lot more 205 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: sticky every time the ball was on the ground. Seemingly 206 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 1: he was around on the ground with a cover or 207 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: somebody up or jumping on the ball. So I thought, 208 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: I thought he played one of his better games, and 209 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: I think they had I think they had a lot 210 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: to do with his with not only I know Sean 211 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: Lee was rotated in there, but like like I mentioned 212 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: earlier in the week last week, Joe Thomas, you know, 213 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: when he knows somebody else's really a really athletic next 214 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: to him, I feel like he has the freedom to 215 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: go go do more. Um. But I thought they played 216 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: well collectively. Like like I said, they did give up 217 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 1: too many yards, and you know, as Heckman said, you 218 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: know some of that was was in was in a 219 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: slop time. But it was a pretty competitive game, pretty 220 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: competitive game, and especially we had to come back in 221 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: the first part. So you know, we with those those 222 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: splash plays like like like Rob said, we have to 223 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: do away with those, you can, you can. There aren't 224 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: many teams in this league that are patient and enough 225 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: um and and consistent enough to sustain drives without trying 226 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: to do something outside of themselves. Most teams get they 227 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: won't do the twelve thirteen, fourteen fifteen play drives. The 228 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: coordinators just don't have that patience. Most coordinators want to 229 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: take a big shot, and if you cannot, if you 230 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,599 Speaker 1: can be sound in your in your assignments, if you 231 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: can keep everything in front of you and you can 232 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 1: tackle well like we've been doing and make big hits. 233 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: Whenever you have opportunity, whenever they whenever they decided to 234 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 1: pull that trigger, that's when you That's when you hop 235 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 1: an opportunity. That's when the quarterbacks sitting back there a 236 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: little bit longer than he usually does to give your 237 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: alignment more time to get back there. That's when they 238 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 1: throw all the ball up there because guess what, man I, 239 00:11:58,520 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: we haven't had a big play all day. We got 240 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: to force it in there, and that's when you get 241 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: the big interceptions and a tip ball. So thats you 242 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: just have to position yourself to be patient enough to 243 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: wait on those opportunities. But you have to play sound 244 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: defense in order to be in those positions. And whenever 245 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 1: it comes to Daniel Jones, he's not going to be 246 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: one of those quarterbacks that beat him beat you with 247 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: his arm. One percent of the time. He has the 248 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: ability to throw the football, but it's not necessarily his 249 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: strong suit. His strong suit is being able to run 250 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 1: and having that dual threat ability. Now, Isaiah, I kind 251 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: of want to get your input on something that Rob 252 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: said initially, and that was about the miscommunication on the 253 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: back end in the secondary, and we thought maybe that 254 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: had kind of subsided a little bit. And it's sure, 255 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: it is better than it has been earlier in the season. 256 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: It's not Seattle where it was every two plays either 257 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett or DK mattcap was running free behind the defense. 258 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: But we saw it again against Philadelphia and de Sean 259 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: Jackson found his way open and there was some miscommunication 260 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: between Cheeto and Treyvon Diggs and there was kind of 261 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: that back and forth. Where does that come from, especially 262 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,239 Speaker 1: at this point in the season, your week's sixteen weeks seventeen, 263 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: should those miscommunication issues start kind of subsiding a little 264 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: bit more so instead of being so obvious on film, 265 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: it should subside. However, it has whenever you're playing top, 266 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: whenever you're playing like like quarters defense, like our defense 267 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: likes to play for whatever reason might know one likes 268 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: to play quarters defense. And we have broken that down 269 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: in the past where every every secondary guy has a 270 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: quarter of the field. Well, when when you run those 271 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: kind of defenses, you leave yourself susceptible to big plays. 272 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 1: Reason being, quarters coverage is supposed to stop people from 273 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: being or to have big plays against you, right, because 274 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: I have four guys dedicated to kids to stay in deep. However, 275 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: in quarters coverage, the confusion comes when you start running 276 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: over routes, which we tend to see a lot, right, 277 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: Every team has run a lot of over routes on us. 278 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: The reason why that causes problems is because you, as 279 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: a natural instinct, you want to stay with that guy 280 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: that's crossing your face, right, you want to stay with 281 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: that guy he's crossing your face. Oh crap, I can't 282 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: let him go over there. But responsibility wise, you're supposed 283 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: to pass it off, right, You're supposed to pass it off. 284 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: You're supposed to say, hey, hey, man coming across. Right, 285 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 1: whatever it is, however you communicate. You need to get 286 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: that communicated across. And our guys are still having problems 287 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: with that, and every team is going to keep trying 288 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: us in that regard. We talked about it yesterday in 289 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: film room. Whenever day the guys go to single single high, Kyle, 290 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: you know guys are there, they're going to try to 291 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: flood us. Coach Garrett's gonna try you. He's going to 292 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: try to overload you on that side, and they are 293 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: going to try to stress whoever has the responsibilities of 294 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: that part of the part of the secondary. And this 295 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: is something that we have to continue to work on 296 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: it and it just comes with reps. It comes with overcommunicating. 297 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: When we say over communicating in football, there's no such thing. 298 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: You can't over communicate. I don't care if they know 299 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: what the heck we're doing. Hey watch him, Hey, he's 300 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: coming to your cross. Over communicate so that you can 301 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: make sure that those mistakes don't continue to happen. That's 302 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: that's good stuff and that and that's really important this 303 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: week too, because we got to see what their situation 304 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: is as safety. You know, Darian Thompson had the concussion 305 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: in the game. We'll see what Xavier Woods his status 306 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: is with the ribs injury. So you saw Jordan Lewis 307 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: back there. I thought I saw Treyvon It's two. I'd 308 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: have to go back and look at it again. But 309 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: they had to shuffle some things back there, so they 310 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: they may have a different group. You know, and communication 311 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: even more key that way. I'm looking at games in 312 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: which Treyvon Diggs and Cheeta Ousia have played together, and 313 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: I only see three. I see the opening week. Oh no, 314 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: there's four. So first two weeks of the season against 315 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: the Rams and the Falcons, and then the last two 316 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: weeks that we've played in that San Francisco and Philadelphia. So, Isaiah, 317 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: when you're talking about reps and you're you're talking about 318 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: that communication, I mean, that might be one of the 319 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: reasons why there was miss communication between twenty four and 320 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: twenty seven because they've played a grand total of four 321 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: games together. But heckma, whenever you're talking about this this 322 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: secondary and you have that safety up at the top 323 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: of it, and it's a big question mark right now 324 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: with Darry Thompson, and of course guys could potentially get healthy, 325 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: like an Xavier Woods back there, But who would you 326 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: want to see next to Donovan Wilson in the secondary? 327 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: Who would you like to see fill in that role? 328 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: Because I mean, I know there's Reggie Robinson that's been 329 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: back there and has butched the safety. There's a couple 330 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: of different options here, but is there anybody that sticks 331 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: out well? I mean, if for the coaching staff, I 332 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: know that they're locking in their game plan today, Xavier 333 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: Woods would be the senior leader there. I think, you know, 334 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: he knows the defense, and that would be the obvious 335 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: choice for me, is the guy that's been playing in 336 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: that position all year. But just the communication, You're right, Isaiah, 337 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: It's all about these guys overly communicating and establishing that 338 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: during the week so that when you do come to 339 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: the game or you do there is a formation that 340 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: is foreign to you, that you're able to talk your 341 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: way through it in real time. And believe me, those 342 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: guys are hollering and talking to each other the whole 343 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: entire game. And so I just felt like with that 344 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: play and in several plays that teams are going to 345 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: test us with, if these guys, you know, get beat 346 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: on the play, just go back to it, look at 347 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: it on the board, and get it corrected, that's where 348 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: we've gone wrong. And I think that the coaching staff 349 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: has done a really good job of getting that confidence 350 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: in these guys so that they can play fast, play free, 351 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: and assignment sound and so all of those things I 352 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: believe are relative, and I think that's why so equally 353 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 1: important going into the future for this team, because if 354 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna keep the same defensive scheme, you're gonna have 355 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: to have guys that have played that scheme as well. 356 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: And so look, no, I don't know, like we're only 357 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: dealing with what's going on on Sunday, but like I said, 358 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: just looking into the future and looking at how we're 359 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: gonna play this to the you know, looking into the 360 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: future and how we're gonna play it. Having guys like Cheeto, 361 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: having guys like Digs to be familiar with each other, 362 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: and this being the fifth game that they play together, 363 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: it's going to be very important for that communication that 364 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: we're talking about. Isaiah. I would like to take a 365 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: quick moment to put you on the single cam to 366 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: to have you just plead your case one more time 367 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: for Reggie Robinson to see significant snaps. You got about 368 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: ten seconds here go, Reggie. I need you to come 369 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: up talk to all the coaches and say, hey, give 370 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: me a chance or give me up out here. Now 371 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: I'm saying no, I don't don't say, oh my gosh, 372 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: it's a rookie, not guy. No, man, I hope they 373 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: gave him opportunity. I know he's been getting some reps 374 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: here and there. But you know, as you guys said 375 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 1: early on Hickman, when I said, no, don't throw some 376 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: of these guys out there to the wolves. Don't throw 377 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: these don't you know, just throw this boy in the 378 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: ocean to see if he can sit. He didn't have, 379 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 1: though he did have the punch out right on. He did, 380 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: he did, yes, and CJ was out of bounds to 381 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: recover it by just one toe. And it got me thinking, 382 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: it's like, man, he did that kind of stuff at Tulsa, 383 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: and I don't know what they're seeing in practice, because 384 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: like we couldn't seen him on special teams maybe a 385 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: little sooner, if not safety, maybe special teams. You know, 386 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: maybe he's just a gamer. He's just a gamer. Guys. 387 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: We just gotta find a way to be a gu 388 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: We're gonna go ahead and take our take our first 389 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: break here on Talking Cowboys presented by Geico. 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See more, do more Esselor Here on Talking Cowboys. 437 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 1: Isaiah is now back with us and ready to roll 438 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: now he was he was with us originally got Isaiah 439 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: staying back. Rob Phillips heck my Harrison, I'm Kyle Yeomans 440 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: And what is a say it with your chest? Week 441 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: here on Talking Cowboys, and we're about to say it 442 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: with our chest. Previewing the Cowboys and the Giants. The 443 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 1: Cowboys got the best of the Giants the first time around, 444 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: even though they left with kind of those bubble guts 445 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: that we talked about oh so often on this show. 446 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: Thirty seven thirty four was the win against the Giants. 447 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: They won that game thanks to a game winning drive 448 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: from Andy Dalton. However, they lost Dak Prescott in that 449 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: game and it resulted in one, two, three, four straight 450 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: losses heading into the bye week, following the Dak Prescott 451 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 1: injury losses in which you scored ten points, three points, 452 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: nine points, nineteen points along the way. But since the 453 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: bye week, Cowboys are four and two and they have 454 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: a chance to make the postseason with a win this 455 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: week in a Washington loss. But we mentioned this Giants 456 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: offense and I wrote about this yesterday and Big Picture Gentlemen, 457 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 1: which kind of previews the week and the five story 458 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: lines from each team. But it's a unique opportunity for 459 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett as the offensive coordinator for the Giants, coming 460 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: in as really kind of on the hot seat again. 461 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: I mean second straight ear he's been on the hot seat. 462 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: He's on the hot seat last year, He's on the 463 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: hot seat as a coordinator this year. But he not 464 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: only has a chance to save his job and go 465 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: to the postseason, but he has an opportunity to do 466 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: it against his formal organization. Now, heck, well, what do 467 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: you think about Jay Gez? Is there any extra motivation? 468 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: I know he's gonna say the right things. He's gonna 469 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: talk about we've got to do what we can do 470 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: and we can control what we can control. But is 471 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: there any ounce of Jason Garrett that has that revenge 472 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: mind or that revenge on the mind going into a 473 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: matchup like this that Kyle. It's really strange, man, the 474 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: dichotomy at work between both of these franchises going into 475 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: the scenes in one being that we add Mike McCarthy 476 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: and he's the piece that gets us to that championship 477 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: that we're looking for. And then then Joe Judge in 478 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: New York kind of rebuilding with Jason Garrett, and now 479 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: here we are playing for potentially the NFC East. I mean, like, 480 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: I for one, have always liked Jason and Garrett. I 481 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: know there are a lot of people that have opinions 482 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: about him, probably Isaiah, he'll say that, talk about that, 483 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: But you know, I just think that, you know, this 484 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: is the parody, and it's wonderful that he has this 485 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: opportunity against his old team, and we have an opportunity 486 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: versus him as well, And so I'm not really worried 487 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: about him per se as I am, you know, some 488 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: of the other pieces in their offense. I know that, 489 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: you know, as far as the scoring for New York 490 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: has been completely down, and maybe that's what's gonna put 491 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: him on the hot seat. But if the Giants are 492 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 1: able to squeak out of victory this week, I think 493 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: he may be in a position to save his reputation 494 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: or his job. Yeah, I'm just I'm cycling through all 495 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: the jisms I've heard over the years. You know he 496 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: will asked that question, Kyle, he would say, I'm focusing 497 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: on having a great Wednesday, and that's the mindset he's 498 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: got to have. He's got it, He's not. You know, 499 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 1: is there an ounce of him that wants to beat 500 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: the Cowboys as a competitor. I'm sure there is, but yeah, 501 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 1: I mean, Heck said it like they're trying to get 502 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: their their house in order offensively. I mean, I think 503 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: they've got twenty six points scored in the last three games, 504 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: and you know, I think he'll be back there next year. 505 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: I think, you know, we're seeing a little bit of 506 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 1: this here in terms of the short offseason, and they've 507 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: lost a lot of their their key guys. You know, 508 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: losing sa Quon Barkley. You can't understate it because you 509 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: know they're still trying to build up that offensive line 510 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: and he can mask some of that. And while Wayne 511 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: Gallman has done a good job running for them, they 512 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: don't have sae Quon who can get you two yards, 513 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 1: three yards, sixty yards. You know, that's that's been the 514 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: biggest thing. And they're still I think they still need 515 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: upgrade some of their personnel that they'll try to do that, 516 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: and he's trying to work through that. But we the 517 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: Cowboys just can't hand them, like I mentioned earlier, just 518 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: can't hand them easy opportunities. I think they I want 519 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: to say, there was a pick six early in that 520 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: first game where they scored off of her early turnovers 521 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: led to a scoopid score. Can't make it easier, it was, 522 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: That's right exactly. So you just you can't make it 523 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: easy on JG. This week, well, both teams I think 524 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 1: had a scoop and score because Anthony Brown had to 525 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: scoop and score off of the DeMarcus Lawrence strip sack. 526 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 1: And then I believe one of their linebackers I can't 527 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: remember who it was went back and I think he 528 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: picked it up. Yeah, and that first quarter and it 529 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: put them up was seventeen three or fourteen to three 530 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: or something like that along the way, so they were 531 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: up multiple scores. Isaiah. How they how do they improve 532 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: that offense? Because I know you've talked about it. We 533 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,239 Speaker 1: talked about it in film room yesterday. They know how 534 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: to attack the holes do they just not have the 535 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: personnel to do so. I don't think they have the 536 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: offensive line to do so. As much like Andress Like 537 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: we like our scenario was we have all the skill sets, 538 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: all the skill personnel out there, but you know we 539 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: didn't have the office a line for that series of games. 540 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 1: So it makes things hard. Doesn't matter how much talent 541 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: you have out there when you can't get them the ball. 542 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: So I think that's the issue that he's ran into. 543 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: Majority of JG's stuff is he runs a lot of 544 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 1: mirrored concepts, a ton of mirror concepts. And I think 545 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: he's gotten better, he's improved and expanding his repertoire, uh 546 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: since since those days that I was with him. But 547 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: he still likes to sit back and push the bar 548 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: down the field. He likes to find the gaps in 549 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: the you know, in the seams. He has to find 550 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: the seams in the coverages and things of that nature. 551 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: So a lot of his stuff he needs time. He 552 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: doesn't want to dink and dunk. That's not his style. 553 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: He likes the big shot and you know that's that's 554 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: his internal battle. So as long as we can get 555 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: home and beat up on this officive line there, I 556 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: think he's going to continue to struggle because, like you 557 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: guys mentioned, he doesn't have he doesn't have san quandline 558 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: on him. Yeah, that's that's very important as there and 559 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: getting home this game. Uh, Tank Lawrence was able to 560 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: get this strip sacked. But just not just negating the 561 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 1: big plays from these guys, it's gonna be very important. 562 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: We can't give up another one of those seventy five 563 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: yard bombs. Uh. And also keeping Gallman in check. And 564 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: you've seen that rob Over the last couple of weeks, 565 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: Goldman has had like twelve Carris twenty seven yards. But 566 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 1: when you go back to the Seattle game, which they 567 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 1: beat Seattle in a game that they just muddied the 568 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: waters with the running game, Wayne Gallman had like one 569 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,239 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty six yards. It just makes everything run 570 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: so much more efficient for the Giants. And so for 571 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: the Cowboys again giving up the most yards against the 572 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: rush in the league, that's very important if they want 573 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: to get a victory because Gallman can gash it. And 574 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: if you want to give Jason Garrett credit for something 575 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: in particular with the quarterback situation, it's Daniel Jones's turnovers 576 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: are down. You know, I think his last four or 577 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: five stars he hasn't thrown a pick, and sometimes that's 578 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 1: you know, that's been their achilles heel is he'll try 579 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 1: to make something happen, as you guys mentioned earlier, try 580 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: to try to step outside yourself to finally get something 581 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: going downfield and throw a pick. And sometimes the protection 582 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: is a part of that too, the fumbles. But they've 583 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: been better in that regard. They just haven't been able 584 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: to manufacture yardage and manufacture points. And I do want 585 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,959 Speaker 1: to correct myself after I kind of corrected Rob earlier. 586 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: It was an interception return forty six yards from Kyler 587 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: fact Roll that actually put the Giants up fourteen to 588 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: three at the end of that first quarter. So it 589 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: was an interception return for a touchdown from the Giants defense, 590 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: and then the fumble recovery returned for a touchdown for 591 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: the Cowboys defense. But yeah, and also in the game 592 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: earlier this season or excuse me, Daniel Jones did not 593 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: throw an interception there as well, he had the fumble, 594 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: So there's opportunities there, and he's going to put the 595 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: ball on the turf, it seems like. And I know 596 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: that was something that Isaiah was really adamant about the 597 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: first time we played the Giants, was get after Daniel 598 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: Jones and forced him to force turnovers. But really it 599 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: was only the one. It was the one turnover that 600 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: proved to be the game changer because it tied the 601 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: game at seventeen. And then after that it was back 602 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: and forth with Dak Prescott until he got hurt, and 603 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: then Andy Dalton came in and went nine of eleven 604 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: and led the game winning drive. So there was that 605 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: back and forth in that game. Isaiah, you just cannot 606 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: allow this Cowboys team to beat themselves this week, right, No, 607 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: I just keep doing what we've been doing. We've been 608 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: really good in terms of taking care of the ball. 609 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: I mean, we know when Zeke gets the ball, we 610 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: know what's on the forefront of his you know, he's 611 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: he's he's he's not gonna give the ball up again. 612 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. Last game, there's a couple instances and 613 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: I was like, ooh those what they're going for the 614 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: cameras and it's kind of shaking a little bit. Yeah yeah, 615 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: not today, So you know, I don't I'm not concerned 616 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: about Zeke anymore. Andy Dalton. You know, that's probably about 617 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: one one ball per game that I think he probably, 618 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: you know, tries to force it. You know. For so 619 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: for the most part, he's being the savvy veteran that 620 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: that knows, hey, we're gonna have our opportunities. He's not 621 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: trying to force things. He I think he has established 622 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: a trust with Kellen Moore. Now that's the thing. When 623 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: you're a quarterback, when you don't trust your offer as 624 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: a coordinator, you're like, man, screw it, I'm just gonna 625 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,959 Speaker 1: figure it out myself. But when you trust you, when 626 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: you trust your off as a coordinator, now guess what. Okay, 627 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: I won't try to force it in this window because 628 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: I know we're gonna have opportunity to move to chains 629 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: and he'll give me the opportunity to throw it down 630 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: the field. So that's that's gotten better. And then on 631 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: the defenside of the ball, like you guys already said, 632 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: don't give up the big play, keep everything in front 633 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: of you, make sound decisions, make you know, good tackles, 634 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: square up on some guys, and then when you have 635 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: opportunity to pop somebody in your chests and pop the 636 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: ball out it. That's what we've been playing, That's how 637 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: we've been playing the last few weeks. If we if 638 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: we improve at all in limiting these guys to yardage 639 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: and these games might turn to blowouts. And Daniel Jones, 640 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: and Daniel Jones with the hamstring injury, coming off of 641 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: the hamstring injury, he may be a little bit less. Yeah, 642 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: he may be a little bit less of himself. And 643 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: in the first meeting that we had, we were worried 644 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: about that man because Daniel Jones, you know, called Daniel Dimes, 645 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: but he has some jets. You know, he can get 646 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: loose on you. And with the hamstring injury, I don't 647 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: think you have to worry about that. And I mean 648 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: I wouldn't just leave the open the red sea for 649 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: him and dare him to do it. But at the 650 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: same time, that's just not that worry that you had 651 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: there before with his mobility. And so this Cowboys defense 652 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: can definitely keep it in front of them. And again, 653 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: just no cheap penalties, nose pass interferences and don't help 654 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: a struggling offense get up on you. But with cheap 655 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: penalties and the Cowboys. The more thing about the turnovers too, Sorry, Kyle, 656 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: go for one more thing about the turnovers. Just you know, 657 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: we've been on the coaches this year, you know, and 658 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: and a lot of people have in terms of special 659 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: teams defense, but even Kellen Moore too. I'm gonna give 660 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: credit to John Fossil for some of the turnovers they've 661 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: been able to have, and Isaiah mentioned preventing them offensively 662 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: every Wednesday Thursday, they drilled the hell out of it. 663 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: John Fossil's also the fundamentals coordinator and they do a 664 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: lot of drill work on ball security and stripping and 665 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: doing all those things. So maybe maybe over fifteen sixteen 666 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: weeks that's that's helped. You got to give credit to 667 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: the players first, but but I think Fossil's involvement in 668 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: that has been has been key too. We think about 669 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: we already mentioned today Reggie Robinson punching the ball out 670 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: that was on special teams well last week or I 671 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,959 Speaker 1: guess two weeks ago now against San Francisco Dorin's Armstrong 672 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: Force and a fumble that was on special teams. So 673 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: it has resulted in game changing plays, and hey, if 674 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: your defense couldn't get your turnovers, at least your special 675 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: teams unit is trying to do something for you. And 676 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: that's something that I know the Cowboys are looking to 677 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: continue going into week seventeen. Also not to mention. The 678 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: Cowboys are back on the practice field today, like you said, 679 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: and we'll see what the injury report looks like. But 680 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: on that defense, I think the health of the secondary 681 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: is the biggest key component right now. Is Xavier Woods 682 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: going to be available, as darry and Thompson going to 683 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: be available. Are these four corners still healthy enough to 684 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: where they can continue to build that continuity and play 685 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: together as the top four players in that secondary. Those 686 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: are all important questions that hopefully we'll be answered today 687 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: and tomorrow via the practice field. But we'll have to 688 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: see how that is. But we'll update you tomorrow on 689 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: what that ultimately ends up being. When we come back, 690 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: you're on talking Cowboys, stock up, stock down? On the defense, 691 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: who was improved in twenty twenty and who is going 692 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: to be a key member of that defense in twenty 693 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: twenty one. When we come back after the break, we're 694 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: back in the tasty treat that's sweeping airwaves and taste buds. 695 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: It's new Doctor Pepper and creep Soda. Let's take a listen, 696 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: Doctor back and cream soda. Is he a new Combonut's 697 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: music to my ears? Okay, Doctor time Pray music to 698 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: my ears and mouth new Doctor Pepper and cream soda 699 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: A delis. 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Final segment of Talking Cowboys Here 726 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 1: on this Wednesday, presented by Geico and always brought to 727 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: you find Bows Quiet Comfort earbuds. With both Quiet Comfort earbuds, 728 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,919 Speaker 1: you can experience audio at a whole new level. Both 729 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: Quiet Comfort Earbuds are the official earbuds of the Dallas 730 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: Cowboys and heck, my Harrison, what do they sound like? 731 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:20,240 Speaker 1: It's like a symphony in my head, Kyle. It never changes, 732 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: it never gets all. Thank goodness for Bose Quiet Comfort Earbuds. 733 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 1: I wonder once again, I've asked this on a couple 734 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: of occasions, but if a representative of Bows could could 735 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 1: get in touch with the show. Let us know if 736 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,399 Speaker 1: you like that or if you don't like that, because 737 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: we have a ton of fun with it, and we 738 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: love bows, so we're not we're having fun. So I 739 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: want to just know if this is acceptable or not? 740 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: Uh now, Isaiah, Isaiah's ruggling right now. Yeah, can they? 741 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 1: Can they send me a pair of bowses too? I'm 742 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,800 Speaker 1: feel left out right now in the I feel like 743 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: I'm like the second cousin that has to say in 744 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,320 Speaker 1: a tent outside of the outside of sliding doors, you 745 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 1: know what, and somebody get in touch with bows, do 746 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 1: us a favor both as the Lord is going to 747 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: hook us up here in the next couple of moments, 748 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 1: so I guess bows could do the same thing. But 749 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 1: final couple of minutes here and I want to talk 750 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,399 Speaker 1: about stock up stock down. We only have like five 751 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: or six minutes left. I guess we could go a 752 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 1: little bit over, but Mike McCarthy's got to talk today. 753 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 1: So Isaiah, we're gonna start with you. I want you 754 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 1: to name three players on the defense, three players this 755 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 1: season that have upped their stock but are but maybe 756 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,320 Speaker 1: not necessarily cornerstone players. They can be, but that's not 757 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 1: what I'm asking. I'm just saying, have up their stock 758 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: here in twenty twenty one or excuse me, twenty twenty 759 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:41,320 Speaker 1: just talking about yes, just talking about Gallimore up, Okay, 760 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 1: Gregory uh love it, Donovan Wilson up. So those are 761 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: the three that I think I was kind of right 762 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: in there, Rob heck wol Do you have anybody to 763 00:37:53,800 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 1: add to that list in terms of stock up? I'm say, 764 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 1: Jay Lou. I think George Jorge Lewis has been playing 765 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 1: a lot better over the last couple of weeks, and 766 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 1: you know, toughness all that. I would throw him in 767 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: there as well as a stock up. Yeah, that was 768 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 1: where I was going. He's probably been their best corner 769 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,360 Speaker 1: of the last month. And also, not to mention, in 770 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: the past, he hasn't had those opportunities to be a 771 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 1: fully rotational player, a full starter, things of the sort, 772 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: just based off of the previous coaching staff. He was 773 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: never really in that conversation. So I would agree, I 774 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: would say stock up. So those are four guys that 775 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: have improved their stock. Now I'm going to flip this 776 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 1: question around for you, gentlemen. We're gonna start with Rob 777 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: on this one. But who is a cornerstone member of 778 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 1: this defense that you know not only has he been 779 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: good in twenty twenty but he will be back and 780 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 1: be a Cornerstone member in twenty twenty one. DeMarcus Lawrence. Okay, 781 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 1: is that too obvious? Yeah? I mean I'm trying to 782 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 1: think who's who's Cornerstone like Cornerstone player defensively, because man, 783 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 1: there's gonna be some change back in the secondary. A 784 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 1: lot of guys up for free agency. I don't know 785 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 1: if they've got a bunch of Cornerstones back there. Cornerstones, 786 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: um Man, you know what, I'm gonna throw Randy Gregory 787 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 1: into that mix because I think if Randy Gregory is 788 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: not a star starter next year, he got a little 789 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 1: bit of an extension, right I think he signed through 790 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 1: next season, and I think he's gonna play even more 791 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 1: meaningful snaps next year. He's he's around thirty thirty five 792 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: snaps a game right now. That's gonna bump up next year. Okay, heckma, 793 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,919 Speaker 1: what do you think? Yeah? I want to say Randy 794 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 1: Gregory as well. I'm hesitant to say that obviously because 795 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,359 Speaker 1: of the past and suspensions, but I think this guy 796 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 1: has a new lease. I think he sees his potential 797 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: and knows what he can do in the NFL, and 798 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 1: I think the time away made him appreciate the game 799 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 1: even more, and that's prayfully, that's that's what his realization 800 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 1: is on his ability. But thank Lawrence as well. I 801 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,479 Speaker 1: think he's had an off year. He started a slow, 802 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 1: but you can see how ninety when he's on, he 803 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: can influence the game. Isaiah had to go against you, guys, 804 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 1: I don't see d law as a cornerstone player. I 805 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 1: see him as an important player, but I don't see 806 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: him as a cornerstone. I don't think that you can. 807 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: I think you can start the season next year and 808 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 1: not have him and be all right, especially for what 809 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:33,320 Speaker 1: he's demanding financially. I think that Tryvon Diggs is a 810 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 1: cornerstone player for you. I think that what he's done 811 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 1: this year, he has a lot of growth. But I 812 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,439 Speaker 1: think that that's somebody that you go into this draft 813 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 1: class and you say, Okay, we need one more guy, right, 814 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: we need one more guy because you know the leaps 815 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 1: and bounce that he's gonna make from year one of 816 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 1: year two, the players that he faced, what he all, 817 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 1: the adversity he's overcome this year, He's gonna make huge 818 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 1: strides one of the next year. So this offseason, you 819 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 1: focus on getting one additional corner in a safety and 820 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 1: you're feeling real good about your secondary. So if I 821 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 1: had to say anybody's a corner stone, I would say 822 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 1: Trevan because I think more so because of the upside. 823 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 1: I would agree with you on Diggs. Yeah, that certainly 824 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 1: view him that way. On d Law though, I know 825 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,840 Speaker 1: what he's making and it's for me, it's kind of 826 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 1: like the Zeke thing. The contract is what it is. 827 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 1: But if they if they didn't have him in the lineup, 828 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 1: where would their run defense. B That's that's my that's 829 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,280 Speaker 1: my question that I struggle with. I know a sacks 830 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: aren't there, but it's it's a lot of the little 831 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 1: stuff too that he gets dusked. Yeah. And the only 832 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 1: reason why I say that I don't agree with that, Rob. 833 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 1: I disagree with you on that which we don't do 834 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 1: that often is Zeke. Zeke's success depends on a lot 835 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 1: of other guys, right versus d Law he hate most 836 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: of the time. He has one on one matchups most 837 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 1: of the game, So I haven't seen that production, that 838 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,799 Speaker 1: level of production to justify what he's asking to get paid. 839 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:53,840 Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying I'm not saying he's not a 840 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 1: good player. I'm not saying all that, but like for 841 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,879 Speaker 1: what he's getting paid, there's other dudes that you would 842 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 1: go out there and get. They completely changed a lot 843 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 1: of money. They changed everything that that guy did. So 844 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to if we're handing out mull against 845 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 1: to anybody, d Laws definitely gonna have to get one 846 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 1: because they changed his game completely from where it was before. 847 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 1: And so you know, still and Rob, you say, where 848 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 1: will we be in the running game had he not 849 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:17,840 Speaker 1: been there when you finished last in the league. I 850 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 1: think people kind of frowned on that. But again, it 851 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,320 Speaker 1: may have been where it was three hundred, may have 852 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 1: been four hundred. We thought held some of those instances. 853 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,760 Speaker 1: But still, I mean, you want to you talk about 854 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 1: a guy that you know can influence the game. And 855 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 1: I just look for d Law to come back next year, 856 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 1: familiarize himself with his defense, and obviously at those other 857 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: key pieces to improve upon that pass rush. So I 858 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 1: like she has a quick question before we go off 859 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 1: the air car. Yes, very very qu question, very quick. 860 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 1: If you guys that option to get von Miller and 861 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:56,320 Speaker 1: swap him out for d Law would you, Oh wow, 862 00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 1: come on now, really no, no, I no, man, I 863 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 1: would know I would. I don't think I would do it, 864 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 1: not coming off the answer no, I don't think so 865 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 1: either it wouldn't happen. Wouldn't happen? No, us. I love 866 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 1: this question. I love what Isaiah's bringing to the table here, 867 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 1: and I love the questions that he's asking because it's 868 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 1: a lot of the same things that I've said on 869 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 1: the other side of the football about Ezekiel Elliott. It 870 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:23,759 Speaker 1: really is. I mean, go back, and I want you 871 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 1: guys to go back and listen to this segment. And 872 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:27,840 Speaker 1: this wasn't my intention, but I want to throw this 873 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 1: out there because you could take d Law's name out 874 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 1: of this conversation and replace it with Ezekiel Elliott and 875 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 1: it's the same exact argument all the way through. On 876 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:40,359 Speaker 1: the time said about e Zeke needing a front line 877 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,800 Speaker 1: to be z No, I heard that, but I'm just 878 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,439 Speaker 1: saying that. I man, there's there's conversations on both sides 879 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 1: of the football that haus going into the off season. 880 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 1: It brings a whole different perspective to it. When you 881 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,399 Speaker 1: when you factor in money always yeah, right, So that's yeah. 882 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 1: From that perspective. Yeah, but it is interesting how Zeke 883 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,359 Speaker 1: Man he ran great in the second half. We had 884 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 1: all of this big run through. You know, it's interesting. Interesting. 885 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:07,799 Speaker 1: I just want to let you know it's the same 886 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 1: offensive line that they've been playing behind the last couple 887 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,319 Speaker 1: of weeks. I just want to let that be known. 888 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,720 Speaker 1: It's the same offensive line where he had like forty 889 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 1: yards as to where he had one hundred and five. 890 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 1: One team was the Yeah, whatever, against a bad team, 891 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 1: against a bad team. That's that's what I'm talking about. 892 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 1: They are against a bad team. Now, that's gonna do 893 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,799 Speaker 1: it for us on talking Cowboys. We've got more saying 894 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 1: it with our chests coming up tomorrow, and you know 895 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a lot of fun. We've got our 896 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 1: prediction segments, our final prediction segment of the regular season. 897 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,719 Speaker 1: How about that? Can Rob Phillips hold on for the 898 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,360 Speaker 1: title and the regular season and thrust his way into 899 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 1: the spotlight heading into the postseason. We'll talk about it tomorrow, 900 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 1: but for today, for Chris Beam, for Isaiah stand Back, 901 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: for Rob Phillips, and for heck By Harrison, I'm Kyle 902 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 1: Yeoman saying so long from the Star in Frisco. We'll 903 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,799 Speaker 1: see you tomorrow on Talking Cowboys. This has been at 904 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,760 Speaker 1: of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football 905 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 1: o'clock