WEBVTT - TechStuff Looks through a Telescope

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tech Stuff, a production of I Heart Radios

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<v Speaker 1>How Stuff Works. Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with

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<v Speaker 1>How Stuff Works in My Heart Radio and I love

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<v Speaker 1>all things tech and way back in one a very

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<v Speaker 1>not good film titled Robin Hood Prince of Thieves debut

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<v Speaker 1>and don't at me. That movie is trash. I loved

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<v Speaker 1>it as a kid, but it is garbage. It starred

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Costner as Robin of Locksley, better known as the

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<v Speaker 1>outlaw Robin Hood, and the film is set in eleven

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<v Speaker 1>ninety four and Robin had a lot of problems. The

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<v Speaker 1>Sheriff Nottingham was on his back, his beloved made Marian

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<v Speaker 1>gets kidnapped, and his accent kept going in and out,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can imagine the stress he was under. But

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<v Speaker 1>he also had some advance diages. Now, one of those

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<v Speaker 1>was his ingenious companion a Zeem played by Morgan Freeman.

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<v Speaker 1>And in one scene, a Zeem helps Robin get a

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<v Speaker 1>better look at some adversaries using a telescope. Now that

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<v Speaker 1>scene is meant to establish that a Zeem's homeland often

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<v Speaker 1>viewed as a backward and savage place through the eyes

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<v Speaker 1>of England, and by extension, the West in general is

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<v Speaker 1>actually home to great learning and innovation. And that part

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<v Speaker 1>was true. I mean, the Middle East has a long

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<v Speaker 1>history of phenomenal achievements, but inventing a telescope in the

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<v Speaker 1>late twelfth century is not among them. That was historically inaccurate,

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<v Speaker 1>probably the least of the historical inaccuracies in that film.

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<v Speaker 1>But still I wanted to start with this because this

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<v Speaker 1>was just one of the many fictions and fallacies in

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<v Speaker 1>The Robin Hood. But I figured it was a fun

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<v Speaker 1>place to start off this episode about the telescope. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna look at where it actually did come from and

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<v Speaker 1>how basic telescopes were. I guess you could say it's

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<v Speaker 1>the focus of this episode. H m hm. And So

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<v Speaker 1>while I now will leave the film Robin Hood Prince

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<v Speaker 1>of Thieves behind, just remember that everything I do, I

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<v Speaker 1>do it for you. Now, As is the case with

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<v Speaker 1>much of technology, it's not really possible for me to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you who invented the first telescope. I can tell

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<v Speaker 1>you that the person most folks credit with inventing the

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<v Speaker 1>telescope was the German Dutch inventor Hans Lipperty. He applied

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<v Speaker 1>for a patent for an invention he called the geiker

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<v Speaker 1>or kaiker. It's kind of hard for me to pronounce

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't speak Dutch, but it means looker in Dutch.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll come back to it. For this invention to be

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<v Speaker 1>possible at all, the first thing that has to happen

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<v Speaker 1>is that humans needed to learn how to make glass.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we don't have a record of that actually happened,

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<v Speaker 1>but our best guess is that glassmaking became an actual

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<v Speaker 1>thing around four thousand years ago in Mesa Potamia, as

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<v Speaker 1>the B. Fifty two s would say, a region called Ptolemace,

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<v Speaker 1>which is in now modern day Israel, was particularly known

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<v Speaker 1>for this, having sand that was suitable for glassmaking, and

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<v Speaker 1>early glassmakers would mix sand, soda, and lime which could

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<v Speaker 1>then be heated in a furnace to create molten glass.

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<v Speaker 1>To make a solid glass object, this mixture of sand, soda,

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<v Speaker 1>and lime would first be put into an open mold,

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<v Speaker 1>and the mold would be placed in the furnace, which

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<v Speaker 1>would be heated up enough for the mixture to become

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<v Speaker 1>molten glass. It would fill up this mold. They'd take

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<v Speaker 1>the mold out and allow it to cool. Now, if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to make a container something that could hold

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like a vase or a perfume bottle, the glassmakers

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<v Speaker 1>used a process called core forming. And yeah, I realized,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm already getting a little far away from talking about

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<v Speaker 1>telescopes and lenses. But I also think this process is

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<v Speaker 1>super neat, so I want to explain it briefly. First,

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<v Speaker 1>the glassmaker would determine what the interior shape of this

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<v Speaker 1>object was going to be, so, for talking about a bottle,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's going to be tall and narrow, or whether

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<v Speaker 1>it was going to be a wide jug, something along

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<v Speaker 1>those lines. Then they would create the core out of

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<v Speaker 1>a mixture of clay, sand, water, and uh poop or

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<v Speaker 1>dung if you prefer, and then they would shape that

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<v Speaker 1>into the rough form they wanted. Before they would insert

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<v Speaker 1>a metal rod into one end of it, the essentially

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<v Speaker 1>the end that would be in the open part of

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<v Speaker 1>the container. They would then allow this core to dry.

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<v Speaker 1>After it dried, the glassmaker would use tools to further

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<v Speaker 1>refine the shape of the core, trimming it, filing it down,

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of thing. Once finalized, Once it's in that

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<v Speaker 1>final shape, the glassmaker would heat up a mixture of sand, lime,

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<v Speaker 1>and soda in a crucible in a furnace, creating a

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<v Speaker 1>molten glass inside that crucible. Then they would insert this

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<v Speaker 1>core into that molten glass, hold down the metal rod.

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<v Speaker 1>They would slowly twirl the core within the molten glass,

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<v Speaker 1>getting a full coating on the core, sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>coating a candy apple. The glassmaker would then remove this

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<v Speaker 1>let cool a little bit, and use some other tools

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<v Speaker 1>like pincers for example, to shape the glass while it

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<v Speaker 1>was still a pliable and then after it had cooled

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<v Speaker 1>down a bit, they might reheat it a little to

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<v Speaker 1>to soften the glass, maybe add different colors of glass

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<v Speaker 1>as decorations on top of it. You could twirl a

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<v Speaker 1>line of molten glass on top of another layer, have

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<v Speaker 1>contrasting colors and decorated that way. You might want to

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<v Speaker 1>add things like handles to say a pot. Glassmakers would

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<v Speaker 1>then change the color of the glass, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>by by mixing in metal oxides, because different metals would

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<v Speaker 1>produce different colors. The whole process is super neat to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>There's actually a lot of videos on YouTube about this process,

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<v Speaker 1>so if it sounds interesting to you should really check

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<v Speaker 1>it out because it's pretty neat to see how these

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<v Speaker 1>ancient glassmakers would make this stuff. Anyway, glass was incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>useful and it was much sought after, and these early

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<v Speaker 1>examples I'm talking about we're really interesting. But the glass

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<v Speaker 1>they produced were not at all suitable for creating any

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<v Speaker 1>sort of lens. Those would have to wait for a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of thousand years. But the foundation for it came

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<v Speaker 1>from a pretty simple observation. Water has a magnifying effect,

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<v Speaker 1>and humans in the ancient world noticed this and wondered,

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<v Speaker 1>is there a way we could replicate this, where we

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<v Speaker 1>could create a way to magnify stuff without having to

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<v Speaker 1>use water. This led to ancient Egyptians and Mesopotamians experimenting

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<v Speaker 1>with polished crystals, usually using courts around seven fifty b C.

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<v Speaker 1>One such lens, the Nimrod lens, was made sometime around

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<v Speaker 1>then in ancient Assyria. Smartie pants Greek and Roman philosophers

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<v Speaker 1>began to hypothesize about what was actually going on with

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<v Speaker 1>these materials, What was creating this magnification effect, how did

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<v Speaker 1>it really how did it really work? They made some

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<v Speaker 1>progress over the centuries and sussing things out, but the

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<v Speaker 1>fall of the Roman Empire would set the world back

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<v Speaker 1>more than a step or two. A lot of learning

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<v Speaker 1>was lost, a lot of progress was halted. One place

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<v Speaker 1>that continued the academic exploration of what was going on

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<v Speaker 1>in the world of optics was in the Middle East,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is probably where the Robin Hood crew got

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<v Speaker 1>their idea for including a telescope in their screenplay. A

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<v Speaker 1>few influential mathematicians and writers in the Middle East published

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<v Speaker 1>their thoughts on what was going on, and they got

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<v Speaker 1>the basics pretty much right. So what is going on? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to remember that vision is all about light,

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<v Speaker 1>our perception of light. We see stuff because light from

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<v Speaker 1>some source has reflected off of stuff. The light passes

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<v Speaker 1>through the lens of our eyes, and the lens directs

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<v Speaker 1>light to the retina. You can think of the lens

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<v Speaker 1>as a method of bending light toward a point. In

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<v Speaker 1>this case, the lens of our eyes bends light so

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<v Speaker 1>that it hits our retina, which in turn then sends

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<v Speaker 1>signals to our brains, and that interprets the information it

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<v Speaker 1>receives in such a way that we experience vision. So

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<v Speaker 1>what we see is a filtered representation of what is

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<v Speaker 1>actually out there according to the light that we're able

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<v Speaker 1>to perceive. There's stuff well outside the visible spectrum. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's infrared light, there's ultraviolet light, and then beyond that's

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<v Speaker 1>out there too, but we can't see it without the

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<v Speaker 1>aid of technology. And even when we do use technology,

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<v Speaker 1>what we're really looking at is a conversion of those

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<v Speaker 1>types of light into something we can actually perceive within

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<v Speaker 1>the visible spectrum. A lens is a transparent material with

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<v Speaker 1>at least one curved surface, and the curved surface redirects light.

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<v Speaker 1>This is called refraction. The lens bends the light rays

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<v Speaker 1>and changes the direction of travel. So in a vacuum,

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<v Speaker 1>light will travel in a straight line, but the path

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<v Speaker 1>of light changes as it moves through different materials, particularly

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<v Speaker 1>as it transitions from one material to another. So when

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about the speed of light, we typically are

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<v Speaker 1>talking about light as it travels through a vacuum, because

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<v Speaker 1>then the speed of light is consistent, it does not

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<v Speaker 1>change it, and it's also the fastest stuff that we

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<v Speaker 1>know about in the universe. So when light moves through

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<v Speaker 1>a different material, transparent material, it slows down a bit

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<v Speaker 1>compared to how fast it travels through a vacuum. So

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<v Speaker 1>we can divide n is into two very broad categories,

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<v Speaker 1>convex lenses and concave lenses. A convex or positive lens

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<v Speaker 1>bulges outward. This causes incoming rays of light to converge

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<v Speaker 1>on one another, concentrating on a focal point behind the lens.

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<v Speaker 1>So you could use stuff like this to concentrate light

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<v Speaker 1>into a point and then use that to start a fire,

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<v Speaker 1>for example with a magnifying glass. Telescopes also use these

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<v Speaker 1>sort of lenses as their object lens. Will talk about

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<v Speaker 1>that in a second, so or objective lens. I should say, So,

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<v Speaker 1>if you think of this in a in a sense

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<v Speaker 1>of an illustration, and you have a convex lens, remember

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<v Speaker 1>it bulges out on either side. In this simple example,

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<v Speaker 1>you would have parallel rays of light coming in from

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<v Speaker 1>the outside hitting that convex lens, and then they would

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<v Speaker 1>all start to tilt inwards of each other, converging to

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<v Speaker 1>a point further out from that lens. And the point

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<v Speaker 1>where they actually do converge is the focal point for

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<v Speaker 1>that lens. We'll get back to that. Then you've got

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<v Speaker 1>concave or diverging lenses. The surface of a concave lens

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<v Speaker 1>bends inward. It's like a bowl, it bends inside. So

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<v Speaker 1>when parallel rays of light hit a concave lens, of

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<v Speaker 1>lights coming from outside traveling in those straight lines hits

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<v Speaker 1>the concave lens, they then bend away from each other.

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<v Speaker 1>They move further out from each other. So a projector

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<v Speaker 1>might use a concave lens to spread rays out across

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<v Speaker 1>a larger surface, like a movie screen. Now that's not

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<v Speaker 1>to say all lenses are either convex or concave. You

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<v Speaker 1>can make lenses with elements of each or other parts

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<v Speaker 1>that These are called compound lenses. So it can get

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<v Speaker 1>pretty complicated. But we're gonna really focus on there. It

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<v Speaker 1>is again focus We're gonna focus on the simpler versions. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Early lenses like the Nimrod lens were made from quartz

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<v Speaker 1>crystal and ground down and polished to create a magnification effect.

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<v Speaker 1>This effect was not particularly strong, but it did show

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<v Speaker 1>that it was possible to manufacture refracting lenses. This led

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<v Speaker 1>to more research and hypothesizing. In the eleventh century, Arabic

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<v Speaker 1>scholars were writing about the early signs of optics, carrying

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<v Speaker 1>on the tradition begun by the Greek and Roman philosophers.

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<v Speaker 1>By the thirteenth century Italian inventors had figured out how

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<v Speaker 1>to grind lenses suitable for use as spectacles. Now, these

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<v Speaker 1>were essentially a pair of magnifying glasses that one would

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<v Speaker 1>wear a hold up to your eyes. And there were

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of different stories about who invented eyeglasses, though

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<v Speaker 1>many of these lack any substantiating evidence, and a few

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<v Speaker 1>have been uncovered as being outright hoaxes. Why is that, well,

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<v Speaker 1>because often it's a matter of local pride to lay

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<v Speaker 1>claim to an inventor of a transformative technology, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you can so that, oh, your village or town, or

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<v Speaker 1>city or country was their home, and therefore you are

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<v Speaker 1>all elevated in relation to that. Something that surprised me

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<v Speaker 1>when I looked into all this was that inventors created

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<v Speaker 1>the microscope before they created the telescope. I had always

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<v Speaker 1>assumed the opposite was true. Hans Libacy, whom I mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>earlier as the person most people credit as the quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote inventor of the telescope, may also have invented the microscope,

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<v Speaker 1>but others say that honor should go to Hans and

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<v Speaker 1>Zacharias Jansen. They were a father son team of spectacle

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<v Speaker 1>makers who happened to live in the very same town

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<v Speaker 1>as Liberacy. So whomever invented the darned thing appears to

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<v Speaker 1>have been living in Holland, specifically in Middleburg. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>stuff was always sort of fuzzy there and they just

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<v Speaker 1>really needed a closer look whomever was responsible. The earliest

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<v Speaker 1>records we have for a microscope date back to the

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<v Speaker 1>fteen nineties. The microscope used a pair or sometimes more,

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<v Speaker 1>of magnifying lenses, and they weren't super powerful microscopes. They

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<v Speaker 1>were only capable of around three to nine times magnification.

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<v Speaker 1>Skipping ahead a few decades to Liberty in his patent application,

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<v Speaker 1>at least one version of his story involves him discovering

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<v Speaker 1>the potential for a telescope essentially by chance. Supposedly, according

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<v Speaker 1>to the story, Lipper she got an order from a

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<v Speaker 1>customer to make two lenses. One lens was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be convex, thus a convergent and magnifying lens. The other

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<v Speaker 1>was to be slightly concave or divergent. So he makes

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<v Speaker 1>the two lenses as requested, and the customer comes in,

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<v Speaker 1>picks up the two lenses, holds one of them close

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<v Speaker 1>to his eye, one further away from his eye and

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<v Speaker 1>looks through them, and then happily pays for the order

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<v Speaker 1>and leaves. Then, according to this story Lippor, she decides,

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<v Speaker 1>what the heck was that about? I gotta make a

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<v Speaker 1>pair of lenses to find out why that was what

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<v Speaker 1>does that mean? So he goes. He makes essentially a

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<v Speaker 1>copy of what he had already made for this customer,

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<v Speaker 1>just to see what the heck this is all about,

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<v Speaker 1>holds up the concave lens close to his eye the

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<v Speaker 1>convex lens further away, and then is astonished to find

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<v Speaker 1>out that through this combination he's able to view an

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<v Speaker 1>image of a church across town as if it were

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<v Speaker 1>right in front of him. It has magnified the image significantly,

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<v Speaker 1>and thus, according to this possibly apocryphal story, the telescope

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<v Speaker 1>was born. He sent a notice to the States General

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<v Speaker 1>of the Netherlands for this patent, and it would have

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<v Speaker 1>extended a patent for thirty years. He actually offered up

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of different options. He said, well, if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to do that, you could give me an

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<v Speaker 1>annual pension from the government, and in return, if you

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<v Speaker 1>do this, I'll promise I will not sell this telescope

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<v Speaker 1>invention to foreign powers, and thus the Netherlands will have

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<v Speaker 1>a superiority in that regard. Uh Zachary Jensen, the aforementioned

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<v Speaker 1>son in that father son duo that worked on the microscope,

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<v Speaker 1>would claim that he invented the telescope. And there was

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<v Speaker 1>a third inventor, Jacob Matthias, who disputed Liberty's claim as

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<v Speaker 1>inventor as well. So ultimately the government of the Netherlands said,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't give anyone a patent on this. It's widely

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<v Speaker 1>known already people are already making these, so there's no

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<v Speaker 1>way of knowing who owns the rights to this. However,

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<v Speaker 1>they did give Liberty and a reward of nine hundred florins,

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<v Speaker 1>which I am told is indeed a princely some in

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<v Speaker 1>those days. When I come back, I'll explain more about

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<v Speaker 1>the physics of light within a simple telescope before we

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<v Speaker 1>continue our journey towards how modern telescopes work today. But

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<v Speaker 1>first let's take a quick break. Now, one thing I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really cover in that first section of the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>is why the heck do we need telescopes? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what is it about our vision that has this limiting

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<v Speaker 1>factor in the first place. Why are smaller objects or

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<v Speaker 1>objects that are much further away or both, why are

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<v Speaker 1>they hard to see? Well, remember when I said that

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<v Speaker 1>when we see something, what's actually happening is that the

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<v Speaker 1>lens of our eye is directing light reflected off that

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<v Speaker 1>object and sending it to our retina. Well, you can

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<v Speaker 1>think of the retina as being kind of like a sensor,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's picking up that light, and smaller objects or

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that's further away take up less space on that sensor,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's part of it. It's just it's it's taking

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<v Speaker 1>up a tinier amount of space on the retina, so

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<v Speaker 1>we're getting less information to our brains. Also, our eyes

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<v Speaker 1>are gathering lots of light reflected off of lots of surfaces,

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<v Speaker 1>and the light coming from a small, distant object can

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<v Speaker 1>be dwarfed by the light coming from everything else, and

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<v Speaker 1>eventually the object is too small or too far away

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<v Speaker 1>for any light reflected off of it to be read,

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<v Speaker 1>just stirred by our retinas. It's not that the light

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<v Speaker 1>isn't getting to us, but it's so small compared to

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<v Speaker 1>everything else that we can't register it. We can't recognize it,

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<v Speaker 1>so to see it more clearly, we would need a

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<v Speaker 1>lens that could take the light reflected off that object

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<v Speaker 1>and then spread that light across more of the surface

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<v Speaker 1>of the retina, and telescopes do that. And there are

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of different ways we can achieve this with

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<v Speaker 1>optical telescopes. One is through the lenses I've mentioned already,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be called a refracting telescope, and the other

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<v Speaker 1>is through mirrors, which will get too later, and those

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<v Speaker 1>are reflecting telescopes. So let's start off with refracting telescopes.

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<v Speaker 1>A simple refracting telescope uses a pair of lenses, like

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<v Speaker 1>what Lipacy discovered back in six eight. The objective lens

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<v Speaker 1>collects light from distant objects to a point of focus

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<v Speaker 1>that's within the telescope itself. So again, now imagine you've

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<v Speaker 1>got a lens at the end of a tube and

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<v Speaker 1>the peril rays are coming in and they hit this

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<v Speaker 1>this convex lens, the objective lens, and because it's a

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<v Speaker 1>convex lens, it bends the lights. So now the rays

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<v Speaker 1>are now converging into the tube to a focal point,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're bending inwards with relation to the tube within

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<v Speaker 1>the body of the telescope. Itself. Uh. Now with a

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<v Speaker 1>modern day telescope that's not a Galileean telescope, which I'll

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<v Speaker 1>get to in a second. Uh, those rays would hit

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<v Speaker 1>a focal point and they don't just stop. They're right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like the rays of light all converge into

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<v Speaker 1>a point of space and then just create a point

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<v Speaker 1>of light. Those rays will continue on in a straight line.

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<v Speaker 1>So now they're diverging from one another. They keep on

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<v Speaker 1>going until they hit something and they reflect off of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So the objective lens faces out into the world, and

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<v Speaker 1>the other lens is the eyepiece or ocular lens, and

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<v Speaker 1>that magnifies that light from within the telescope and spread

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<v Speaker 1>it out so that that light takes up more of

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<v Speaker 1>the space on your retina. So these diverging rays hit

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<v Speaker 1>that second lens. That second lens then bends the light

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<v Speaker 1>in a way that directs it towards the eye of

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<v Speaker 1>the person using the telescope in a in a parallel fashion,

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<v Speaker 1>So it returns the light to a parallel alignment. So

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<v Speaker 1>what you view through that eye piece is a virtual

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<v Speaker 1>representation of the real thing that the objective lens has

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<v Speaker 1>in focus. And this virtual object is much closer to

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<v Speaker 1>your eye than the real object is, so you get

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<v Speaker 1>the effective magnification lipatis. Early telescopes can magnify stuff to

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<v Speaker 1>about three times their relative size to the viewer's perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>so not incredible, but an improvement. One interesting point about

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<v Speaker 1>this type of telescope if we were talking specifically about

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<v Speaker 1>using convex lenses on both the objective lens and the

0:20:55.960 --> 0:20:58.800
<v Speaker 1>ocular lens, the eye piece lens or the optical lens,

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<v Speaker 1>if you prefer if you're using both of those as

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<v Speaker 1>convex lenses, and you're you've got the focal point inside

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<v Speaker 1>the telescope itself, the second lenses behind that focal point.

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<v Speaker 1>As the light converges and then diverges within the telescope,

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<v Speaker 1>the image flips upside down. So if you draw this out,

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<v Speaker 1>it all makes sense. The light rays are coming from

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<v Speaker 1>the outside world, right, and the light rays that are

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<v Speaker 1>on the top if you think of it in respect

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<v Speaker 1>of the telescope, the top of the telescope part, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking at a cross section of it, they get

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<v Speaker 1>bent so that they aimed downward relative to the telescope.

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<v Speaker 1>The light rays coming from the bottom side of the lens,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, then get bent upward with respect to the telescope,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they continue on their journey. They hit that

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<v Speaker 1>focal point and they keep going in a straight line. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the light that was at the bottom of

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<v Speaker 1>the objective lenses at the top of the optical lens

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<v Speaker 1>or the the ocular lens. The light that was the

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<v Speaker 1>top of the objective lens is at the bottom of

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<v Speaker 1>the I piece lens. So that's why if you were

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<v Speaker 1>looking through such a telescope, the object you were looking

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<v Speaker 1>at would be upside down. Uh. If we use such

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<v Speaker 1>a telescope to look at a celestial body, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>a big deal because top and bottom in space is

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<v Speaker 1>largely unimportant. If we wanted to use it in a

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<v Speaker 1>terrestrial sense, like you wanted to use the telescope to

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<v Speaker 1>look at stuff around you on Earth, Like let's say

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<v Speaker 1>that you have a spyglass and you're a pirate, then

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<v Speaker 1>looking at a distant object might be a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a surprise because it would suddenly be flipped upside down.

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<v Speaker 1>Modern telescopes use stuff like prisms and mirrors to correct

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<v Speaker 1>for that vertical inversion. They're called erectors. But what about

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<v Speaker 1>old telescopes before we figured that out? We're all those

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<v Speaker 1>pirates we see in romanticized movies looking at stuff upside

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<v Speaker 1>down the whole time. Well no, so, while my description

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<v Speaker 1>of objective lenses and eyepieces and all that sort of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff is accurate. From modern refracting telescopes, the type used

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<v Speaker 1>by astronomers and seafarers from around oh say, sixteen ten

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<v Speaker 1>to about sixteen seventy or so followed the Galilean method.

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<v Speaker 1>Galileo began using telescopes for astronomical observations not long after

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<v Speaker 1>Liberacy's work became widely known. So like by six ten, Galileo,

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<v Speaker 1>like Libacy, used a convex lens as the objective lens,

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<v Speaker 1>and a concave or diverging or negative lens as the

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<v Speaker 1>eye piece lens. So like coming in through the objective

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<v Speaker 1>lens would bend inward towards a focal point, the diverging

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<v Speaker 1>lens would reverse the direction of the bend before the

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<v Speaker 1>rays could hit the user's eye, so the top and

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<v Speaker 1>bottom wouldn't switch, everything would still be in the proper alignment.

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<v Speaker 1>As the Institute and Museum of the History of Science

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<v Speaker 1>puts it, quote, the eye piece is situated in front

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<v Speaker 1>of the focal point of the objective at a distance

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<v Speaker 1>from the focal point equal to the focal length of

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<v Speaker 1>the eye piece end quote. That gets a little confusing,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you were to draw it out, it makes

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of sense. You would have the convex objective

0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:14.520
<v Speaker 1>lens at the front of the telescope. Lights coming from

0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:18.359
<v Speaker 1>outside world in parallel rays. It hits that lens and

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<v Speaker 1>it bends inward, just as we've been talking about all

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<v Speaker 1>the way up through this podcast, they start to converge

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<v Speaker 1>on a focal point that's behind the lens. However, before

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<v Speaker 1>it gets to the point where all those rays have

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<v Speaker 1>converged into a single point of space, those rays hit

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<v Speaker 1>the eye piece lens, the concave lens, So instead of

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<v Speaker 1>all converging on a focal point, they first hit this

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<v Speaker 1>concave lens, which then bends the light again, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the concave lens causes the rays to diverge, returning to

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<v Speaker 1>a parallel arrangement. The The early inventors learned that there

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<v Speaker 1>was a precise art to getting the distance correct between

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<v Speaker 1>these two lenses. You couldn't just have them one in

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<v Speaker 1>front of the other and everything works out perfectly. To

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<v Speaker 1>really get it right, you needed to take the absolute

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<v Speaker 1>value of the focal length of each lens and then

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<v Speaker 1>calculate the difference between them. The difference represented the distance

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<v Speaker 1>between the two lenses you would need to produce the

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<v Speaker 1>magnification effect you wanted. So for a Galileean telescope, the

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<v Speaker 1>distance between the objective lens and the I piece or

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<v Speaker 1>optical lens is equal to the algebraic sum of the

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<v Speaker 1>two lenses focal lengths. That is, the distance between the

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<v Speaker 1>lens and its focal point. So concave lenses actually have

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<v Speaker 1>a negative focal point. The focal point of a concave

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<v Speaker 1>lens is in front of the lens, not behind the lens.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little counterintuitive. So you add a positive value,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the convex lenses focal point. The focal point

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<v Speaker 1>for a convex lens is behind it. Then you add

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<v Speaker 1>the negative value that's the concave lenses focal point, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you get the difference essentially, because it would have

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<v Speaker 1>been the same as if you subtracted a positive sum

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<v Speaker 1>from another positive sum. The result is how far apart

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<v Speaker 1>those two lenses should be to produce the magnification effect. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of that magnification is also dependent upon the

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<v Speaker 1>focal length of the two lenses. Specifically, it depends upon

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<v Speaker 1>the ratio between the focal length of the objective lens

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<v Speaker 1>and then of the I piece lens. So you take

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<v Speaker 1>the objective lens focal length, you divide it by the

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<v Speaker 1>focal length of the optical lens. And later telescopes ones

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<v Speaker 1>that would use two convex lenses, rather than adding those

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<v Speaker 1>two focal lenks together, you would subtract the focal length

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<v Speaker 1>of the optical lens from the focal length of the

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<v Speaker 1>objective lens. Now, remember that in that case, the focal

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<v Speaker 1>length rh lens is a positive value. That's the only

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<v Speaker 1>reason that we had to add the two figures with

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<v Speaker 1>the Galilean telescope, because one of the values was negative.

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<v Speaker 1>The greater the diameter of the objective lens, the one

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<v Speaker 1>that's facing out to the world, the more light it

0:27:06.200 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 1>can collect. That seems pretty obvious, right. The bigger the lens,

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<v Speaker 1>the more light it's going to be able to redirect

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<v Speaker 1>inward to the telescope. By the way, the reason why

0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:19.560
<v Speaker 1>telescopes even have a tube there are a couple of reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>One is to keep out dust and other things that

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<v Speaker 1>could obscure the lenses, but another is it helps block

0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:30.840
<v Speaker 1>out any light that you don't want to come and

0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:33.240
<v Speaker 1>hit your eye. You want to really focus on whatever

0:27:33.400 --> 0:27:37.639
<v Speaker 1>object you're looking at. So the greater the diameter or

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:41.520
<v Speaker 1>aperture of the objective, the more light it can collect.

0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:44.720
<v Speaker 1>Generally speaking, the more light it collects, the brighter the

0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:49.280
<v Speaker 1>distant image will actually be. And the greater the magnification

0:27:49.359 --> 0:27:53.000
<v Speaker 1>of your telescope, which again depends upon the relationship between

0:27:53.000 --> 0:27:55.840
<v Speaker 1>the focal length of lenses, the less field of view

0:27:56.000 --> 0:28:00.000
<v Speaker 1>you would end up having. So the objective lens die

0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:02.840
<v Speaker 1>ameter was what determines how much light comes in. It

0:28:02.920 --> 0:28:07.880
<v Speaker 1>does not necessarily determine how much magnification you get. That

0:28:08.000 --> 0:28:10.359
<v Speaker 1>is based more on the relationship between that lens and

0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:13.640
<v Speaker 1>the I piece lens. But then the amount of magnification

0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:16.400
<v Speaker 1>you get determines how much field of view you have.

0:28:16.880 --> 0:28:19.159
<v Speaker 1>If it's a greater amount of magnification, you're going to

0:28:19.280 --> 0:28:22.080
<v Speaker 1>see less of the night sky in the view of

0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:26.480
<v Speaker 1>your telescope. Now, there are practical limits that you hit

0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:31.440
<v Speaker 1>using lenses, because the bigger the lens, the more light

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:34.040
<v Speaker 1>it can collect. But it also means that those lens

0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:37.960
<v Speaker 1>lenses have have more mass. That means the telescopes themselves

0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:41.600
<v Speaker 1>get heavier as a result. Moreover, if a lens is

0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:45.440
<v Speaker 1>too heavy, the weight can actually affect the shape of

0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:48.480
<v Speaker 1>the lens. It can warp it. And since the lens

0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:51.640
<v Speaker 1>shape determines where the light is going to go, that's

0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:53.920
<v Speaker 1>a bad thing. If you've designed a lens to direct

0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 1>light in a very specific way, and then the lens

0:28:56.840 --> 0:28:59.280
<v Speaker 1>warps under its own weight, the light's not gonna go

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:02.040
<v Speaker 1>where you plan, and so you start to reach practical

0:29:02.080 --> 0:29:05.720
<v Speaker 1>limits of what you can do using refracting telescopes. The

0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 1>largest refracting telescope objective lens that's still in use today

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:14.880
<v Speaker 1>is installed at the Yorkey's Observatory in Wisconsin. The lens

0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:18.920
<v Speaker 1>on that telescope measures one meter across or or a

0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:22.320
<v Speaker 1>little more than three feet. In other words, it weighs

0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:26.760
<v Speaker 1>around twenty six tons. That's how heavy glass gets when

0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:29.400
<v Speaker 1>you're looking at this, because remember it's a convex lens,

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:31.240
<v Speaker 1>it bulges out. So it's not just that it's a

0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:35.000
<v Speaker 1>flat sheet of glass. It's not flat, it's it's curved.

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:38.720
<v Speaker 1>So this is obviously a little heavier than what you

0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:42.360
<v Speaker 1>would use in the backyard telescope also I said still

0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:45.520
<v Speaker 1>in use, but technically the Yerkeys Observatory has been closed

0:29:45.520 --> 0:29:47.720
<v Speaker 1>to the public since the spring of two thousand eighteen,

0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:50.840
<v Speaker 1>when the University of Chicago announced it was seeking a

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 1>party to purchase this observatory and telescope and essentially take

0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:57.760
<v Speaker 1>it off university hands, which has not yet happened as

0:29:57.840 --> 0:30:01.480
<v Speaker 1>the recording of this episode. An other practical limitation of

0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:04.800
<v Speaker 1>refracting telescopes is that the lens must be in really

0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:09.440
<v Speaker 1>good shape right, so scratches, smudges, dust, all that can

0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:11.680
<v Speaker 1>make it difficult for light to pass through the lens.

0:30:12.120 --> 0:30:15.680
<v Speaker 1>And there's also the issue with lost light. Some of

0:30:15.680 --> 0:30:19.240
<v Speaker 1>the light hitting the lens doesn't pass through the lens,

0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:22.120
<v Speaker 1>it will reflect off the lens, and we see this

0:30:22.200 --> 0:30:25.000
<v Speaker 1>in our daily lives. If you look at a window

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:27.880
<v Speaker 1>and you see your reflection and the window is transparent,

0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:31.000
<v Speaker 1>then that reflection is proof that some of the light

0:30:31.080 --> 0:30:34.880
<v Speaker 1>hitting that window is not passing through the glass. Instead

0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:37.640
<v Speaker 1>it's bouncing off the glass. The same thing is true

0:30:37.680 --> 0:30:40.240
<v Speaker 1>for telescope lenses, and the thicker and larger the lens,

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:43.240
<v Speaker 1>the more light is going to be lost due to reflection.

0:30:44.000 --> 0:30:48.440
<v Speaker 1>Another limitation is called chromatic aberration, which sounds like a

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:51.440
<v Speaker 1>monster from Dungeons and Dragons. But this all has to

0:30:51.480 --> 0:30:53.200
<v Speaker 1>do with the fact that light is made up of

0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:57.440
<v Speaker 1>many wavelengths, which we perceive as different colors. Those different

0:30:57.440 --> 0:31:01.640
<v Speaker 1>wavelengths have different focal lengths. The focal length of blue

0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:05.040
<v Speaker 1>light is different than the focal length for red light,

0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 1>and these two wavelengths are pretty far apart on the spectrum,

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 1>which I'm sure you remember if you remember Roy g BV. Now,

0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:15.720
<v Speaker 1>what this means to us using telescopes is that the

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 1>different colors of light will not quite line up when

0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:22.480
<v Speaker 1>creating the image of the thing we're trying to look at.

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:26.080
<v Speaker 1>The effect isn't enormous, but it's enough to create a

0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:29.440
<v Speaker 1>fringe of color around images, sort of like a rainbow

0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 1>halo effect almost. And adding in other lenses and various

0:31:33.120 --> 0:31:37.360
<v Speaker 1>combinations can correct for chromatic aberration. But adding more lenses

0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:42.480
<v Speaker 1>means telescopes get way more expensive, delicate, and heavy. There's

0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:45.600
<v Speaker 1>a different approach that doesn't rely on lenses at all,

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 1>and those are reflecting telescopes, and I'll explain more about

0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:59.600
<v Speaker 1>those in just a second. Before we figured out how

0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 1>to you lots of combinations of lenses and prisms to

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:07.480
<v Speaker 1>correct for a chromatic aberration and other limitations of refracting telescopes.

0:32:07.800 --> 0:32:09.920
<v Speaker 1>There was another smarty pants who came up with a

0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:13.400
<v Speaker 1>different solution. That smarty pants would be Sir Isaac Newton,

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:18.480
<v Speaker 1>who when not dodging falling apples or inventing calculus. And yeah,

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:21.240
<v Speaker 1>I know he wasn't the only one to invent calculus.

0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:24.080
<v Speaker 1>He was coming up with nifty ways to improve telescopes,

0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:28.680
<v Speaker 1>and he did this around the sixteen seventies. Newton's solution,

0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:32.920
<v Speaker 1>which had previously been suggested by folks like Galileo, was

0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:37.400
<v Speaker 1>to rely upon a curved mirror rather than a lens

0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:40.680
<v Speaker 1>to gather light. The mirror would sit at the base

0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:43.360
<v Speaker 1>of the telescope. So again, if you think of the

0:32:43.440 --> 0:32:47.040
<v Speaker 1>telescope as a tube, then the mirror would be at

0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:49.920
<v Speaker 1>the bottom of the tube. The top of the tube

0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:54.480
<v Speaker 1>would be open, open to the night sky. The curved mirror,

0:32:54.720 --> 0:32:58.720
<v Speaker 1>a parabolic mirror, would reflect light so that all the

0:32:58.880 --> 0:33:02.680
<v Speaker 1>parallel rays come into the telescope would hit the mirror

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:07.320
<v Speaker 1>and then reflect off on a converging pathway. So similar

0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:10.320
<v Speaker 1>in execution. If you can think of it that way,

0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:13.320
<v Speaker 1>and maybe not execution. Similar in effect to how a

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:17.000
<v Speaker 1>convex lens bends light to converge on a focal point,

0:33:17.320 --> 0:33:21.200
<v Speaker 1>the parabolic mirror would reflect light to converge on a

0:33:21.240 --> 0:33:26.320
<v Speaker 1>focal point inside the telescope. However, Newton mounted a second

0:33:26.320 --> 0:33:30.640
<v Speaker 1>mirror sitting just ahead of where the focal point would be,

0:33:30.720 --> 0:33:35.120
<v Speaker 1>so in between the parabolic mirror and that mirror's focal point.

0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:40.120
<v Speaker 1>This the secondary mirror would reflect light coming from the

0:33:40.200 --> 0:33:44.880
<v Speaker 1>objective mirror at around a ninety degree angle toward an eyepiece,

0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:49.160
<v Speaker 1>which would provide magnification of the virtual image produced there.

0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:52.120
<v Speaker 1>So the light coming in from the main mirror bounces

0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:56.040
<v Speaker 1>off a second mirror and then you can see that light. Otherwise,

0:33:56.800 --> 0:33:59.480
<v Speaker 1>the parabolic mirror would just reflect light back out of

0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:01.640
<v Speaker 1>the open into the telescope. That would do you no good.

0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:03.400
<v Speaker 1>The only way to look into it would be to

0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:06.160
<v Speaker 1>put your head in the telescope, and then you're blocking

0:34:06.160 --> 0:34:09.440
<v Speaker 1>the light that's coming into it. So the secondary mirror

0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:12.319
<v Speaker 1>was to redirect light so you could actually see what

0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:16.400
<v Speaker 1>this telescope was observing. So, instead of an objective lens

0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:20.839
<v Speaker 1>to capture and bend light, Newton's telescope had an objective

0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:25.280
<v Speaker 1>mirror like a refracting telescope, the amount of light captured

0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:29.520
<v Speaker 1>is dependent upon the size of the objective component, but

0:34:29.760 --> 0:34:33.200
<v Speaker 1>a mirror's thickness doesn't have to change as you increase

0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:36.640
<v Speaker 1>its diameter. It doesn't bulge out, so you can make

0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:41.480
<v Speaker 1>a really thin, really large parabolic mirror. By contrast, the

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:45.400
<v Speaker 1>refracting lens would get thicker as you increase the diameter

0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 1>in order to get the proper refracting properties. So the

0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:53.160
<v Speaker 1>switch to a reflecting mirror meant you could construct much

0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:57.440
<v Speaker 1>larger telescopes without having to worry about dealing with really heavy,

0:34:57.640 --> 0:35:02.520
<v Speaker 1>very delicate lenses. Even a really big reflecting telescope could

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:05.600
<v Speaker 1>be mounted on a sturdy support structure and the mirror

0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:09.680
<v Speaker 1>would retain its parabolic shape compared to those glass lenses

0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:12.920
<v Speaker 1>that would eventually warp from the weight of the lens itself.

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:16.799
<v Speaker 1>And because the light was bouncing off mirrors rather than

0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:21.840
<v Speaker 1>passing through lenses, Newton didn't have to worry about chromatic aberration. However,

0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:27.560
<v Speaker 1>reflecting telescopes had their own sets of limitations. Early on,

0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:31.279
<v Speaker 1>a big limitation was focal length. The reflecting telescopes were

0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:35.040
<v Speaker 1>limited having a relatively short focal length, and since focal

0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:38.960
<v Speaker 1>length is tied to magnification, that meant reflecting telescopes were

0:35:39.040 --> 0:35:42.040
<v Speaker 1>largely limited and how much magnification you could get out

0:35:42.040 --> 0:35:44.880
<v Speaker 1>of them. This would later be addressed with innovations and

0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:47.719
<v Speaker 1>telescope design, but it was a bit of a limitation

0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:50.440
<v Speaker 1>in Newton's time. Also, while the telescope has had a

0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:54.040
<v Speaker 1>relatively short focal point, they also had a relatively large

0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:55.800
<v Speaker 1>field of view, so you can see more of the

0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:59.040
<v Speaker 1>night sky in the view using a reflecting telescope than

0:35:59.080 --> 0:36:04.719
<v Speaker 1>a comparatively similar refracting telescope. Another small limitation was the

0:36:04.800 --> 0:36:08.520
<v Speaker 1>reflecting mirror mounted above the objective mirror, you know, the

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:12.520
<v Speaker 1>one that's in between the objective mirror and its focal point. Well,

0:36:12.560 --> 0:36:14.879
<v Speaker 1>it would block a little bit of the light coming

0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:17.760
<v Speaker 1>into the telescope. It wouldn't block any of your view

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:22.359
<v Speaker 1>because essentially every point of the mirror would have a

0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:27.239
<v Speaker 1>full version of the image that was coming into the telescope,

0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:30.120
<v Speaker 1>So you were getting a full view, but you were

0:36:30.160 --> 0:36:32.759
<v Speaker 1>blocking some of the light coming into the telescope, so

0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:36.040
<v Speaker 1>the image would be a little more dim than otherwise

0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:40.880
<v Speaker 1>would be. So the bigger this reflecting mirror was the

0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:43.160
<v Speaker 1>more light it would block, and the dem or the

0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:46.799
<v Speaker 1>resulting image would be. The curved mirror also meant that

0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:50.080
<v Speaker 1>objects along the perimeter of the field of view would

0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:54.839
<v Speaker 1>be slightly warped. So anything in the center of your

0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:58.239
<v Speaker 1>view would be pretty accurate, but the closer you got

0:36:58.320 --> 0:37:01.560
<v Speaker 1>to the edge of your you, the more warped it

0:37:01.600 --> 0:37:04.600
<v Speaker 1>would get, and you would get these elongated images. So

0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:06.799
<v Speaker 1>if you're looking at a star, it might look more

0:37:06.920 --> 0:37:10.440
<v Speaker 1>like a tear drop or a comment. So that was

0:37:10.480 --> 0:37:13.440
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a of a setback, or at

0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:16.719
<v Speaker 1>least a drawback, I should say. So, yeah, these telescopes

0:37:16.760 --> 0:37:20.680
<v Speaker 1>can get pretty big. The biggest in operation right now

0:37:21.239 --> 0:37:25.480
<v Speaker 1>is the Grund telescope Eo Canarius in La Palma, Spain,

0:37:26.120 --> 0:37:30.440
<v Speaker 1>as a diameter of ten point four meters or thirty

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:34.759
<v Speaker 1>four point two feet. Now, remember, the largest refracting telescope

0:37:34.840 --> 0:37:38.879
<v Speaker 1>has an objective lens diameter of one meter, So this

0:37:39.120 --> 0:37:44.200
<v Speaker 1>reflecting telescope has an objective mirror ten times that diameter.

0:37:45.080 --> 0:37:49.160
<v Speaker 1>That's huge. Now, the mirror is also not a single

0:37:49.239 --> 0:37:54.200
<v Speaker 1>unbroken surface. It's not one ten point four meter across mirror.

0:37:54.200 --> 0:37:57.799
<v Speaker 1>It's actually made up of thirty six hexagonal mirrors that

0:37:57.880 --> 0:38:00.680
<v Speaker 1>fit together snugly, kind of like a puzzle piece. But

0:38:00.800 --> 0:38:04.560
<v Speaker 1>there's an even larger reflecting telescope that's currently in development.

0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:11.320
<v Speaker 1>It's called the European Extremely Large Telescope. Seems pretty self explanatory.

0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:15.000
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna have a reflecting objective mirror that measures approximately

0:38:15.200 --> 0:38:19.920
<v Speaker 1>forty meters in diameter, according to the European Southern Observatory.

0:38:20.160 --> 0:38:23.520
<v Speaker 1>The telescope will correct for atmospheric distortions, which is one

0:38:23.520 --> 0:38:26.319
<v Speaker 1>of the problems that we have just using telescopes here

0:38:26.360 --> 0:38:28.440
<v Speaker 1>on Earth. It's the fact that we have this pesky

0:38:28.640 --> 0:38:31.799
<v Speaker 1>atmosphere that gets in the way sometimes. Uh. The atmosphere

0:38:31.840 --> 0:38:34.279
<v Speaker 1>is why stars appear to twinkle when we look at them,

0:38:34.320 --> 0:38:36.680
<v Speaker 1>so that can be a problem when you're trying to

0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:41.120
<v Speaker 1>magnify all of that stuff. But this one's supposed to

0:38:41.120 --> 0:38:42.800
<v Speaker 1>correct for that. It's also supposed to be able to

0:38:42.840 --> 0:38:46.440
<v Speaker 1>collect thirteen times more light than any other optical telescope

0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:48.719
<v Speaker 1>we have here on Earth, and again, according to the

0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:52.319
<v Speaker 1>e s O, provide images that are sixteen times more

0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:55.799
<v Speaker 1>sharp than the Hubble Space telescope was able to. The

0:38:55.840 --> 0:38:58.600
<v Speaker 1>plan is to have this telescope ready to make observations

0:38:58.680 --> 0:39:02.560
<v Speaker 1>starting in twenty twenty five. Speaking of the Hubble, it

0:39:02.760 --> 0:39:06.200
<v Speaker 1>is itself a reflecting telescope. Specifically, it's a type of

0:39:06.280 --> 0:39:10.960
<v Speaker 1>reflecting telescope called a Cassegrain reflector, which uses a pair

0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:15.719
<v Speaker 1>of curved mirrors. The objective mirror is that concave parabolic

0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:18.520
<v Speaker 1>mirror design that I talked about just a moment ago,

0:39:18.920 --> 0:39:22.080
<v Speaker 1>but mounted above that, instead of a mirror that reflects

0:39:22.120 --> 0:39:25.840
<v Speaker 1>that image ninety degrees, it's actually a mirror facing the

0:39:25.920 --> 0:39:29.360
<v Speaker 1>first one, and this one is a convex mirror, so

0:39:29.400 --> 0:39:34.480
<v Speaker 1>it bulges outward, not curves inward. The parabolic mirror reflects

0:39:34.520 --> 0:39:38.600
<v Speaker 1>incoming light toward a focal point, and mounted ahead of

0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:41.800
<v Speaker 1>that focal point is this convex mirror, which then reflects

0:39:41.880 --> 0:39:45.919
<v Speaker 1>light back down the telescope in a converging point, and

0:39:46.080 --> 0:39:49.200
<v Speaker 1>the main parabolic mirror at the base of the telescope

0:39:49.239 --> 0:39:52.279
<v Speaker 1>has a small hole in the center that allows light

0:39:52.320 --> 0:39:54.960
<v Speaker 1>to pass through. The idea for the Hubble and other

0:39:55.040 --> 0:39:58.680
<v Speaker 1>space telescopes was that by putting telescopes in orbit and

0:39:58.719 --> 0:40:01.200
<v Speaker 1>thus outside of our atmosp fear, we could get an

0:40:01.280 --> 0:40:05.080
<v Speaker 1>unimpeded look at distant celestial bodies. You wouldn't have to

0:40:05.120 --> 0:40:10.840
<v Speaker 1>worry about atmospheric distortion or light pollution from terrestrial sources. Unfortunately,

0:40:11.280 --> 0:40:15.080
<v Speaker 1>after the Hubble Telescope had already launched into orbit, it

0:40:15.160 --> 0:40:20.080
<v Speaker 1>became clear that the objective mirror wasn't shaped correctly. It

0:40:20.200 --> 0:40:23.920
<v Speaker 1>was just slightly too flat by the order of a

0:40:23.960 --> 0:40:27.919
<v Speaker 1>couple of micrometers, so a very small error, but enough

0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:32.360
<v Speaker 1>to be catastrophic. That was enough to introduce spherical aberration,

0:40:32.520 --> 0:40:34.920
<v Speaker 1>which translates to people like you and me, as the

0:40:34.960 --> 0:40:38.680
<v Speaker 1>telescope was returning fuzzy images and it was supposed to

0:40:38.760 --> 0:40:43.600
<v Speaker 1>be super sharp, gorgeous images of the the galaxies around us. Now.

0:40:43.640 --> 0:40:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Eventually astronomers were able to come up with a solution,

0:40:47.360 --> 0:40:50.000
<v Speaker 1>though it would mean sending astronauts back up to the

0:40:50.040 --> 0:40:53.240
<v Speaker 1>Hubble Space Telescope to install a couple of additional mirrors

0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:56.239
<v Speaker 1>to correct for that issue, and in the process they

0:40:56.280 --> 0:40:59.239
<v Speaker 1>had to also remove some of the instrumentation that was

0:40:59.280 --> 0:41:02.839
<v Speaker 1>intended to get there other types of cosmological data. This

0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:05.960
<v Speaker 1>is what we would call a very expensive boo boo.

0:41:06.800 --> 0:41:09.920
<v Speaker 1>The James Webb Space Telescope, which is scheduled to launch

0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:13.560
<v Speaker 1>in twenty one, is of a similar design, but we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be exploring the universe. By collecting infrared light, which is

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<v Speaker 1>outside the visible spectrum, it will look at light that

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<v Speaker 1>is four times fainter than what current telescopes can detect,

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<v Speaker 1>and that means it can detect light from very distant sources.

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<v Speaker 1>And in space, you can think of distance and time

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<v Speaker 1>as being very closely related because it takes time for

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<v Speaker 1>light to travel distances. Now, light moves wicked fast. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the fastest stuff in the universe as far as we

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<v Speaker 1>can tell, but even so, it still takes time to

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<v Speaker 1>get from point A to point B. So when we

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<v Speaker 1>look up at stars, the light we're seeing from stars

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<v Speaker 1>might have taken a journey that lasted millions of years,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're effectively looking into the long distant past of

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<v Speaker 1>those celestial bodies. We're not seeing the star as it

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<v Speaker 1>is today. We're seeing the star as it was when

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<v Speaker 1>that light left the star, possibly millions of years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>And the James Webb is going to collect light from

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<v Speaker 1>further away than we've ever managed to do up to now,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning we'll be looking much further back into the past

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<v Speaker 1>of the universe than we've ever been capable of doing,

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<v Speaker 1>which is pretty darn cool. Now there's a lot I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't cover in this episode. For one thing, I stuck

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<v Speaker 1>with optical telescopes, but there are other kinds like radio telescopes.

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<v Speaker 1>For another, I didn't really talk about stuff like the erectors,

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<v Speaker 1>which are those devices that are meant to reverse that

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<v Speaker 1>vertical flipping thing that I talked about with refracting telescopes

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<v Speaker 1>if they're using two convex lenses. But I figured this

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<v Speaker 1>was a good overview into the super interesting piece of

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<v Speaker 1>technology that has at its heart very few components. But

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<v Speaker 1>those components have to be precisely designed, constructed, and placed

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<v Speaker 1>in relation to one another. So it's a real testament

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<v Speaker 1>to human ingenuity and also how sometimes the most impressive

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<v Speaker 1>technologies are not necessarily the most complicated when you get

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