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Speaker 1: it home even more or the organization did with optioning

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Speaker 1: River Ryan today after the game. It's not not concerning

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Speaker 1: though to have the high era and and more so

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Speaker 1: just some of the things he's saying. He he Roki

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Speaker 1: said after the game there's still a lot of things

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Speaker 1: he needs to work on. He had also mentioned the

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Speaker 1: fact that he his mechanics, his armslot. One of the

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Speaker 1: things I said I was very worried about his armslot

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Speaker 1: got out of whack trying to get that you know,

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Speaker 1: trying to pronate to get the sinker, going to get

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Speaker 1: the two seamer with the correct movement that they're looking

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Speaker 1: for on it. So that's the type of thing where

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Speaker 1: when we talk about in the offseason he's trying to

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Speaker 1: add pitches, he's trying to add a two seem he's

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Speaker 1: trying to add a cutter. This is a thing that

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Speaker 1: worries me with that is he is a two pitch

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Speaker 1: pitcher for a reason, and all of his stuff is

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Speaker 1: very much over the top, especially that forkball. The way

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Speaker 1: he needs to well he calls it a split it,

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Speaker 1: but the way he needs to release that it's very

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Speaker 1: much over the top to mitigate that spin and it

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Speaker 1: works well with your four seam fastball. Now you're trying

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Speaker 1: to add in the wrinkles where you're you're trying to

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Speaker 1: rip the ball. Is to borrow from from Bulldog there,

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Speaker 1: you know Hershey's we're talking about, you know, ripping the

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Speaker 1: ball on the seams and make the ball move this way,

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Speaker 1: and you know, trying to get over the top with

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Speaker 1: the cutter or have that feeling more so of getting

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Speaker 1: over the top with the cutter. It can very easily

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Speaker 1: mess with those kind of pitches and I have That's

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Speaker 1: where my concern lies with Roki, and if we don't

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Speaker 1: start to see some change, don't start to see some improvement,

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Speaker 1: and more so consistency, because we have seen very good

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Speaker 1: we haven't seen it all the time, but we need

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Speaker 1: consistency out of Roki Sasaki or else. He's going to

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Speaker 1: have a date with Triple A and they're going to

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Speaker 1: have some conversations, very difficult conversations to have with.

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Speaker 3: It's not the worst thing in the world. But a

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Speaker 3: couple of days ago and Jack Harris had posted this

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Speaker 3: as well for what it's worth. Here with Sasaki's quote

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Speaker 3: in Japanese to that question from Dylan Hernandez. From the

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Speaker 3: standpoint of results, I'm glad this was spring training. If

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Speaker 3: I'm able to pitch the entire season, I don't think

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Speaker 3: anyone will remember spring training. He's not wrong, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think. I mean, if he comes out of the

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Speaker 3: gate and he starts pitching really well and he gets

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Speaker 3: that consistency that you're talking about, and it starts, you know,

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Speaker 3: putting guys away and getting good nobody is going to

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Speaker 3: care what happened in spring training, and nor should they.

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Speaker 3: So again, jury is still out. I'm not I'm not

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Speaker 3: super duper worried about him, and I do love the

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Speaker 3: fact that the daughters have the depth. And again, if

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Speaker 3: he does at some point, half remember Clayton got sent

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Speaker 3: down to Triple A too. At some point, if you

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Speaker 3: know he has to go down and figure some things

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Speaker 3: out in Triple A, so be it. But again, he's

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Speaker 3: going to be He's going to be a part of

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Speaker 3: this club in some form or fashion, and you know,

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Speaker 3: I certainly figure that they're going to uh to figure

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Speaker 3: this out. All right, one more thing before we say

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Speaker 3: goodbye again, get your thoughts on the chat if you

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Speaker 3: guys have anything you really want to talk about. I

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Speaker 3: think we have to address the Miguel Rojas situation. There

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Speaker 3: was a mistake. Evandrelik of the Athletic mistakingly put Miguel

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Speaker 3: Rojas on a tweet that said that he was suspended

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Speaker 3: for ped use. Obviously it was not Miguil Rojas. It

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Speaker 3: was Johann Rojas, who's a you much younger player place

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Speaker 3: for the Philadelphia Phillies, who we knew was already suspended

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Speaker 3: with p d use and he lost the appeal. Clint,

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Speaker 3: So the the suspension wasn't even the news. It was

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Speaker 3: more that he had lost the appeal and he's being

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Speaker 3: suspended for certain for eighty days. But unfortunately Evan, who

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Speaker 3: is a very good investigative reporter but really misspoke on this,

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Speaker 3: tweeted that it was Miguel with the Los Angeles Dodgers.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't like he just you know, miss missed Johann

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Speaker 3: for Miguel, you know what I mean. It's like he

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Speaker 3: got the team wrong, everything wrong. So Meggie went on

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Speaker 3: Chris Rose Sports today on John Boy Media. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if it was today or yesterday.

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Speaker 1: But well last night and it was published today, and

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Speaker 1: you know usually, well we have the video, if do

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Speaker 1: you want to play it?

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Speaker 4: Meggie?

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Speaker 1: Okay, before I talked about this earlier this week as well.

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Speaker 1: The thing I hated most about it was one, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have fans of other fan bases that are

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Speaker 1: going to try to crap on MEGGI, try to crap

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Speaker 1: on the Dodgers, both of which were indicted in this

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Speaker 1: initial the initial tweet and then you know, removed five

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Speaker 1: minutes later or whatever. But not necessarily addressed exceptionally. Well,

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Speaker 1: it was all I made a mistake and it was

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Speaker 1: this guy U. But Niggie, as we know, he's the

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Speaker 1: type of do it. He sees this stuff, he wears

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Speaker 1: this stuff. This doesn't just affect the player, it affects

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Speaker 1: their family. This is something even if he didn't do it.

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Speaker 1: We live in a world. We live in a time

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Speaker 1: where it doesn't matter. You are guilty until you were

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Speaker 1: just guilty. If anything happened, you are guilty. I don't

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Speaker 1: care if there's innocent, I don't care if there is

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Speaker 1: you know, irrefutable evidence that said this did not happen.

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Speaker 1: This was a mistake. People, idiot fan bases and just

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Speaker 1: dumb people in general period are going to be like, oh, yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: this this guy is a dirty, cheating, cheating cheater and

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Speaker 1: all he does is steroids and he should be in

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Speaker 1: the same conversation as jerk'son Profar. And that's the thing

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Speaker 1: that sucks about this kind of stuff. This is not

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Speaker 1: me Slam and Evan Drelic because Evan does a phenomenal

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Speaker 1: job at his job. But that race to be first

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Speaker 1: will have will bite you in the ass. It will

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Speaker 1: bite yours.

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Speaker 3: And that's what I tell people all the time, especially

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Speaker 3: young kids that want to get into this industry, and

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Speaker 3: you know, they've grown up in the social media era

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Speaker 3: and there's a place for it. Certainly, it is a

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Speaker 3: good connection tool to connect your team to the fans,

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Speaker 3: players to fans, But it is dangerous and that that

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Speaker 3: need to be first instead of right is very, very

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Speaker 3: very It's a slippery slope. So let's listen to exactly

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Speaker 3: how this went down.

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Speaker 4: I don't want the people involved with the organization to

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Speaker 4: have to deal with something like that when didn't even happen.

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Speaker 6: Time right now for our sofar spotlight of the week,

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Speaker 6: and it's going to focus on you. I was in

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Speaker 6: a meeting and I get out and the first thing

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Speaker 6: I see is Trevor Pluf and Jake story Ali talking about, well,

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Speaker 6: thank god Miguel Rojas didn't get popped for peds. Kevin

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Speaker 6: Relic of the Athletic, who's actually been a very good

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Speaker 6: investigative reporter, mistyped your name when he was talking about

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Speaker 6: Johann Rojas.

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Speaker 1: Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa. Let me stop you there.

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Speaker 3: He didn't mistype my name.

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Speaker 4: He did it with all the intention to put my

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Speaker 4: name and the organization's name on that tweet. One thing

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Speaker 4: is to mistype my name and say Miguel Rojas Gas

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Speaker 4: suspend it. That's a fair kind of mistake that you

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Speaker 4: can commit. But when you say me their roles from

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Speaker 4: the Los Angeles Dodgers right Gas to spend the eighty

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Speaker 4: games for PDS, That's what.

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Speaker 1: I'm not good with. And I gotta talk to you

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Speaker 1: about this. And this is the only person that I'm going.

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Speaker 4: To talk to about the about this issue, because I

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Speaker 4: don't want to make it a big deal and I

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Speaker 4: don't want to make it about myself. But I feel

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Speaker 4: like as a reporter, you have to have some ability

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Speaker 4: to be a professional as well and apologize not just

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Speaker 4: to me, but to the organization because you don't even

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Speaker 4: know how Andrew Freeman felt after these accusations that for

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Speaker 4: six minutes kind of rollbo my whole, my whole world,

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Speaker 4: and got so many people around me and around us,

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Speaker 4: the team, the Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: Dodgers worry because of one guy make a mistake.

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Speaker 4: That is I'm totally I'm totally okay with making mistakes,

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Speaker 4: but at the end of the day, I was expecting

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Speaker 4: an apology.

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Speaker 6: Are you saying that Evan not reach out to you

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Speaker 6: and apologize.

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Speaker 4: No chance, because I don't have X or Twitter or whatever.

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Speaker 4: He didn't make an apology to my name or the

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Speaker 4: organization for saying something like that.

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Speaker 6: Whether or not he wrote that he was sorry or

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Speaker 6: not he owes you a call.

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Speaker 4: He didn't call me or trying to reach out or anything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. It is buonshit. That's a spicy Miggie

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Speaker 1: row is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I get it. I'd be pissed too

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Speaker 3: if my name was linked to something like that. That's

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Speaker 3: absolutely so egregious, an attack on my character, even if

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Speaker 3: it is six minutes and it was a mistake, and

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Speaker 3: I believe it was an innocent mistake. I don't doubt

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Speaker 3: for one second it was just a mistake. Evan doesn't

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Speaker 3: have an intent to hurt make you like that. I mean,

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Speaker 3: that's just not who he is. He's very he is

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Speaker 3: very good at his job. But a mistake like that

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Speaker 3: was six minutes of this. Imagine the ripple effect that

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Speaker 3: that had, you know, when Meggi's probably like, what the hell,

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Speaker 3: what are you talking about? And just like that doubt

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Speaker 3: and that association of you know, being in that group

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Speaker 3: of people at some un four And I'm sure Evan

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Speaker 3: will make this right. I don't doubt that. You know,

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Speaker 3: hopefully by now he has been able to everybody. Can

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Speaker 3: get everyone's phone number, there's no I got a text

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Speaker 3: yesterday from OutKick. I'm like, how do these people get

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Speaker 3: my phone number? You can get anyone's information, right, So

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Speaker 3: hopefully by now Evan has reached out to Miggy and

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Speaker 3: the Dodgers and this will be all cleared up. But

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Speaker 3: I understand, I understand why, Meggie. You know, I'd be

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Speaker 3: pissed if somebody associated my name with something like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a tough spot. And I had the you know,

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Speaker 1: the tweet up there. Evan did at least finally make

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Speaker 1: it right on the Twitter side of things. He kind

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Speaker 1: of you know, apologized in the moment, you know, shortly thereafter,

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Speaker 1: but making it a lot more directly to MIGGI Rowe

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Speaker 1: and to the Dodgers organization. And and like you said,

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Speaker 1: hopefully he's made the time to reach out. And you'll

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Speaker 1: let me know about that OutKick gig if they're paying more,

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Speaker 1: we're going there.

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Speaker 3: Wow, you're just going to the highest bid or huh?

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Speaker 3: I see how it is.

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Speaker 1: Hey, at some point, you gotta you gotta hull yourself out,

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Speaker 1: just me specifically, Cole.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not, I'm not. I'm not doing that.

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Speaker 1: Going back to the whole idea of of you know,

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Speaker 1: dumb fan bases and something that gets reported incorrectly, Cole

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Speaker 1: by Cole saying, people still making comments about you know,

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Speaker 1: epay and and and otani, like it doesn't matter. People

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Speaker 1: are miserable, and we choose not to be miserable. We

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Speaker 1: choose to be happy because the Dodgers one. And that's

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Speaker 1: how we cycle back to begin to start the end

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Speaker 1: of the show.

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Speaker 3: They're really they're really really really really really good at baseball.

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Speaker 3: All right, guys, I think that's it for us, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll be back tomorrow. I do again. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: more about Rokie. We'll have other stuff to talk about. Uh.

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