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Speaker 1: Twelve of the NFL's finest quarterbacks have left the comfort

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Speaker 1: of their stadiums and luxury suites for the adventure of

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Speaker 1: a lifetime. These brid iron heroes are used to leading

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Speaker 1: their teams on the field, but can they outplay, outlast,

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Speaker 1: and outthrow each other in the ultimate survival challenge?

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Speaker 2: You ain't everything you have with the gobine tied you man,

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Speaker 2: we find a way to win thee No matter what.

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Speaker 1: The stakes are high and the competition is fierce, only

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Speaker 1: one can claim the title of the ultimate survivor. Who

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Speaker 1: will rise to the top and who will be sacked?

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Speaker 3: They wrote me off.

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Speaker 4: I ain't right back though, that's the problem. I'm right back.

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Speaker 4: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: This is Quarterback Island.

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Speaker 5: Yes, yes, we are back on island time. It is

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Speaker 5: Quarterback Island for the first time during the twenty twenty

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Speaker 5: five regular season, and I hate to see it, but

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Speaker 5: we might be ready off Genosmith again. I am here

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Speaker 5: in the Chris Wesleyan podcast studio, and I am joined

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Speaker 5: by an esteemed group of Quarterback Island voters, Steve Weisch,

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Speaker 5: Jordan Rodrieg and back from another island of Ireland, Colleen Wolf.

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Speaker 2: Back from Dublin Ireland. I have a sweatshirt on. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's been great.

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Speaker 5: Yes for everyone listening on audio. The Trinity College sweatshirt.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they don't really wear college sweatshirts over there, but

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Speaker 6: I wear college sweatshirts. And even though I were the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the campus is beautiful.

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Speaker 5: I sort of put myself in the mind of many

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Speaker 5: different Sally Rooney characters, you know, normal people, conversations with friends.

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Speaker 3: It was beautiful. I brought it. I bought a similar

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Speaker 3: sweashirt for my wife.

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Speaker 2: Did you see the Book of Kels.

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Speaker 5: I did see the Book of Kels. It all, it

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Speaker 5: all happened. But that's not the island. We're okay, right, right,

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Speaker 5: right right. We're talking about Quarterback Island. And there were

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Speaker 5: some trades in the NFL today. We're going to get

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Speaker 5: to those later. We're going to get to the TNF

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Speaker 5: preview as well, a little late. But for anyone who's

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Speaker 5: joining us mid stream, Jordan, why don't you explain what

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Speaker 5: Quarterback Island is and how we got here.

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Speaker 7: Quarterback Island is both a place and an idea. It

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Speaker 7: is a place for the quarterbacks who most define the sport.

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Speaker 7: Right now, there's lots of movement on Quarterback Island. Sometimes

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Speaker 7: some illegal rule changes on Quarterback Island controversy overall, though,

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Speaker 7: twelve quarterbacks right now. Rules changes later in the season,

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Speaker 7: but right now, twelve quarterbacks have a place on Quarterback Island,

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Speaker 7: and these are the quarterbacks who we decide as a

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Speaker 7: voting group are defining the position right now.

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Speaker 5: Yes, and every voter can decide in different ways. But

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Speaker 5: whether it's best, whether it's defining however, however, it.

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Speaker 8: Is pretty subjective.

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Speaker 5: It's pretty subjective. We haven't allowed any injured quarterbacks to

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Speaker 5: be on the island. Although Lamar Jackson's going to be

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Speaker 5: an interesting conversation in just a little bit before we go.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, but George saying, this is how this is being

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Speaker 9: played now and an idea.

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Speaker 4: I'm waiting for Jude Law to walk in. Yeah, every performer.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I've been waiting for my entire life.

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Speaker 3: Steve, that is absolutely amazing.

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Speaker 5: So we did an episode before the season started, and

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Speaker 5: we are gonna remind everyone who the twelve quarterbacks are

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Speaker 5: on Quarterback Island. They were entering this season. So yes,

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Speaker 5: we love it. If you watch us on YouTube, and

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Speaker 5: if you do, you know, give us that like great

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Speaker 5: starting lit subscribe and the group to start the season

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Speaker 5: was Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes kind

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Speaker 3: Season last year and he stuck it to us.

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Speaker 5: Jaden Daniels, Dak Prescott, Baker Mayfield, Justin Herbert Brock Purdy

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Speaker 4: A good starting two.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a great starting twelve. I think there's

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Speaker 5: It's kind of just like who's definitely staying on you?

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Speaker 5: think are just definitely staying on that we don't even

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Speaker 5: need to have a formal you know, vote by vote

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Speaker 5: they've played so far. Josh Allen and Dak Prescott to me,

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Speaker 5: have played the position at a higher level than anyone. Right,

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Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes, he he essentially just lives on quarterback Island

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Speaker 2: To you, he's no longer renting on the island. I

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Speaker 3: He is just there.

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Speaker 5: And then Justin Herbert and Jared Goff, they started the

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Speaker 5: does anyone in that group stand out to you that

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Speaker 3: Or that that you disagree with me?

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Speaker 6: I think I think all all of these quarterbacks are

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Speaker 2: You were the one right that wanted Baker.

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Speaker 4: Oh I'm a big Baker guy.

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, right, Okay, So I just look at the

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Speaker 6: way he's playing right now, and my goodness, in that

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Speaker 6: He's just so good and he just makes everyone around

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Speaker 8: But now I think we're completely past it.

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Speaker 5: But I think he's got some of some of that

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Speaker 5: it is working right now.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and even I mean, honestly, we saw a couple

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Speaker 7: they still they take on his sort of on field

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Speaker 7: the mark of defining quality of a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: I agree. I think Baker.

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Speaker 5: Maybe as much as any of these quarterbacks get extra

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Speaker 5: in terms of the intangibles, in terms of the if

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Speaker 5: mean last season, he did finish the season, it was

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Speaker 5: the island this season, I mean, having four game when

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Speaker 5: he drives to start this season, like he what do

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Speaker 3: Like he is right at the very top. Well, and

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Speaker 9: Other part, right, there's always only two or three guys

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Speaker 9: the minute left, you got a shot.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: It's usually like Patrick.

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Speaker 2: Mahomes, Josh Allen.

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Speaker 9: Josh Allen and the guy who plays quarterback in Pittsburghreg's

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Speaker 9: favorite player. But you know he's a good clutch player.

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Speaker 9: Baker's in that category. Now I want to drop in

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Speaker 9: another name because you and I both talked about a

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Speaker 9: quarterback who I think is on autopilot now, and that's

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Speaker 9: Jared Goff. Okay, change coordinators, change position coaches, tweak a

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Speaker 9: little thing. He is doing it, I mean, and they

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Speaker 9: these half back passes. Some of the creativity that you know,

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Speaker 9: the flip to a mon Rod and they're doing this.

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Speaker 9: It's it's so you know, when you think about all

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Speaker 9: the changes he's gone through with the different ocs he's

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Speaker 9: gone through from Jeff Fisher to everything to now again.

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Speaker 4: He's got the game on autopilot.

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Speaker 9: I salute Jared Goff and the way he is adjusted

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Speaker 9: and now to me, he's one of the premier quarterbacks in.

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Speaker 6: The He really is, because if you even just look

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Speaker 6: at total EPA, he's top seven EPA per play, he's

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Speaker 5: Weirdly, it's gone under the raider and Michael David Smith

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Speaker 5: of Pro Football Talk wrote about this today. Or elseide

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Speaker 3: Right now.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, first impressions matter so much that you just

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Speaker 5: remember that Week one game. We've moved on, all right,

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Speaker 5: So he is locked in. Six players are on the island.

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Speaker 5: Congrats to to Josh Dak, Patrick Baker, Justin Herbert who

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Speaker 3: Okay, of the twelve players that were.

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Speaker 5: On the island, I actually I think it's maybe we

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Speaker 5: there's three players that are clearly off that injured guys too.

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Speaker 5: We're knocking off one injured player, which is Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 5: He's gone. Brock Purtys has not been on the field

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Speaker 5: And then as exciting as it was to watch CJ.

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Speaker 5: Stroud spin it on Sunday against Baltimore, I don't know

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Speaker 3: Get to that.

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Speaker 5: Because to me, I thought I thought these three guys

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Speaker 3: We're booting them off the island.

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Speaker 4: I think we better take a beat on.

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Speaker 5: Onj Okay, so we will table, well table him, we

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Speaker 5: will table him and the other guys on the island

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Speaker 5: to discuss that I think are at least worth a discussion.

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Speaker 6: I need a pen hold on a second, it does

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Speaker 5: We have allowed Colleen to he's got the headphones, inner ponytail.

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Speaker 5: It's a beautiful high ponytail.

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Speaker 7: I said, that's so much worse.

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Speaker 2: All right, orders restored. I'm a professional.

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Speaker 5: Let's go Okay, the the other guys on the island,

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Speaker 5: who I think we could table and have a deeper

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Speaker 3: It's up to you.

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Speaker 5: Guys would be lamar because of the injury Dalen Hurts, yep,

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Speaker 5: Jayden Daniels missed a couple of games, hasn't been playing.

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Speaker 3: I think it's at least worth talking about.

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Speaker 4: We can talk about him.

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Speaker 3: But and then CJ.

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Speaker 5: Let's have the CJ thing now, because I want to

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Speaker 5: open up some spots to start this thing. And he

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Speaker 5: is one of my favorite quarterbacks ever.

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Speaker 3: I have to just admit it.

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Speaker 4: He just is.

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Speaker 5: But he was piloting the worst offense in the league

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Speaker 3: He discuss him. I don't think he's got a knock

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Speaker 4: I don't think he's played poorly.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: Again, that's why I think the math can map him.

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Speaker 4: But I mean he's still playing his tail off.

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Speaker 7: I have no doubt or I don't question you know,

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Speaker 2: Some of that was the quarterback too.

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Speaker 7: I mean it was mostly the offensive line, no run game,

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Speaker 2: That's going to take some time. I don't think he's

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Speaker 7: Right now because I have four names here that I

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Speaker 7: But I also think that this is a guy who

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Speaker 2: But for now, I would probably take him hot.

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Speaker 4: I could see the math math.

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Speaker 5: It was an incredible performance too against the Ravens. Ultimately,

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Speaker 6: Like, how much are we taking away from the playing

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Speaker 5: Throws were though that kind of analysis always bothers me

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Speaker 3: You go watch that game.

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Speaker 5: It was a beautiful game, but yeah, it can help

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Speaker 5: him build confidence. But I can't ignore the Bucks game.

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Speaker 5: I can't ignore the Jaggars game.

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Speaker 3: And I'm calling a vote.

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Speaker 5: I don't care. We're going to call an early vote

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Speaker 3: Stroud. No.

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Speaker 2: No means he should not be on the isisland.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and Steve is voting yes as a protest vote.

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Speaker 3: It is a protest vote.

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Speaker 7: I I just wanted to open that play though, Steve,

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Speaker 3: That's what I mean.

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Speaker 4: I've got a long number, Okay, I don't want to hear.

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Speaker 5: We've crossed three players off the list. It's Joe, c

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Speaker 5: bring it up now. What is your I don't know

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Speaker 2: It was a pretty hard rule beyond the island.

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Speaker 5: In Lamar Jackson's case, we know he's returning relatively soon.

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Speaker 5: He sounds unlikely to play this week. Then they have

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Speaker 5: he is Lamar Jackson, I do think different rules like if.

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Speaker 2: Well, so here's the thing. Yeah, here's the thing though,

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Speaker 7: Here's the thing because okay, well we decide that with

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Speaker 7: three and a half games. That's almost our full sample

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Speaker 9: And we did Justin Herbert last year when when the

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and so for me, I am fine keeping Lamar on,

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Speaker 7: Jade Daniels stays on because he's just missed more time.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of an incomplete I.

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Speaker 4: Say we tick Lamar off based on the rule you

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Speaker 9: We take him off because last year, remember Justin Herbert,

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Speaker 7: He didn't he started he started out off because he

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Speaker 9: He was wounded. He was like an ankle injury or whatever.

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Speaker 5: We're you, you know, and he didn't put together some

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Speaker 2: I think the two.

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Speaker 7: I think the two actually that we're discussing here because

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Speaker 5: And I think you think Jayden Daniels's performance.

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Speaker 7: Greg is a factor though, is combined, to Colleen's point,

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Speaker 7: combined very heavily with the fact that he's missed more

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Speaker 2: It's a weighted grade here.

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Speaker 7: And I and I just I think in the beginning

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Speaker 7: Now I think this offense is going to be humming

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Speaker 5: I thought he played great against the Chargers in the

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Speaker 7: But to finish the sentence that I was just saying

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Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying is like, I don't know that.

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Speaker 5: Lamar is still out, so yeah, it is all tricky, yeah,

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Speaker 5: bye week for what for what.

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Speaker 4: That your honor? You're one of you two honors.

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Speaker 3: We'll table them for now.

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Speaker 4: We'll table table them and then see how the math.

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Speaker 5: So for now, Lamar, Jaden Daniels, and Hurt are tabled

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Speaker 5: because I think we should talk about Hurts.

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Speaker 3: Let's just go through quickly who's definitely.

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Speaker 5: Off, so that's fine and see if you guys disagree.

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Speaker 5: We have so far booted three people off the island total,

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Speaker 2: Who was not on the island.

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Speaker 3: Let's let's just go through.

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Speaker 5: And see if you guys disagree, Just just to cover

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Speaker 5: the quarterbacks of it all, Okay, for sure?

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Speaker 3: Not yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 5: Now in the NFC, these are the starting quarterbacks right

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Speaker 5: Jackson Dart, Carson Wentz for the Vikings. Michael Pennix, you know,

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Speaker 5: I think he's having a discussion. Bryce Young overall a

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Speaker 5: Caleb Williams really have a case.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I thought maybe someone would know someone Caleb.

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Speaker 5: Traditional numbers are pretty good, but I'm with you, guys, Okay,

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Speaker 2: All factoring in numbers, tape, all of that.

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Speaker 3: They're all off. In the AFC, the players I would

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Speaker 5: TUA with the rough start of the year, justin fields

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm doing fine. The Raiders are in trouble,

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Speaker 2: But even I thought he played bad Monday. In that game,

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Speaker 7: Those two gorgeous throws back to back that he made,

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Speaker 2: But also when you cut him loose.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, anger sort of centers him.

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Speaker 2: So we're just waiting for a breakout in year six.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I think we can't.

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Speaker 4: We can't. Let's not let's not laugh at all.

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Speaker 5: that at the end of the year he's a really

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Speaker 5: serious conversation or he makes it onto that.

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Speaker 3: I think right now, having a.

447
00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:17,600
Speaker 4: Defense, it gives some short fields like some of these

448
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Speaker 4: other quarterbacks.

449
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Speaker 5: Right the advanced stats are are great to look at

450
00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,560
Speaker 5: and they're not great for Trevor Lawrence, but like I

451
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Speaker 5: think it's tough to even think about him as an

452
00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 5: option when like his yards for attempt is everything is

453
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,320
Speaker 5: actually way down than ever before. So Trevor Trevor is

454
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Speaker 5: out all those players. I don't think you guys would disagree.

455
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Speaker 5: And then I'll throw in the Bengals starting quarterback here too.

456
00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:44,000
Speaker 5: Joe Flacco is the Bengals starting quarterback, well, apparently for

457
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Speaker 5: this Sunday. For anyone that's just learning about this via

458
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Speaker 5: Quarterback Island, let's have a quick Joe Flacco talk. He

459
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Speaker 5: was traded to the Cincinnati Bengals on Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: That's fun.

461
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Speaker 5: The Browns get a fifth round pick, but it's not

462
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Speaker 5: for a fifth round pick because they sent a six.

463
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Speaker 5: All it was was a small move up on Day

464
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Speaker 5: three of the draft. Essentially, I would say a salary

465
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,439
Speaker 5: dump picks up. He's barely making any money. The Cincinnati

466
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,119
Speaker 5: Bengals are betting on Joe Flacco to have a better

467
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Speaker 5: chance to keep them afloat for when Joe Burrow possibly

468
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Speaker 5: returns in December. Try to get to Joe Burrow at

469
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Speaker 5: seven and seven or or even six and eight or

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Speaker 5: something Steve, you look skeptical. Do you think Flacco can

471
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Speaker 5: do this?

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Speaker 9: First off, Jake Brown's gonna start this week, Joe. Do

473
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Speaker 9: we know that Joe's not gonna have enough time to

474
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Speaker 9: get it going, even though he did in Cleveland.

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Speaker 4: These are these are like two totally.

476
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Speaker 9: Unimaginative organizations right now. I mean, for real, I want

477
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Speaker 9: whatever's in the jar that they're snacking.

478
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Speaker 10: On, because some gummies. You're saying late night, okay whatever.

479
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Speaker 10: I'm kind of I'm sitting here, like.

480
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Speaker 9: Joe Flacco behind that offensive line and it was really

481
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Speaker 9: quick passing game in Cincinnati.

482
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Speaker 8: Well, he moves so fast.

483
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Speaker 2: You know, he's still says.

484
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Speaker 9: Bengals have these five second developing pass plays, right, So

485
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 9: you need somebody who can move a little.

486
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Speaker 4: Jamis can move a little, and he's gonna make it interesting.

487
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Speaker 4: I don't. So you're gonna go with the dude.

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Speaker 9: Joe Flacco, who you've seen for a couple of years

489
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Speaker 9: in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 4: You know, I thought maybe he can get something going

491
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Speaker 4: to Cleveland. It's the same Joe.

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Speaker 6: I mean, would you rather Joe Flacco be with the

493
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Speaker 6: Bengals or Andy Dalton if we're talking about I mean,

494
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Speaker 6: but there were so many, it just felt like other

495
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Speaker 6: options and I'm with you, the famous one would have

496
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Speaker 6: just made so much more sense with those receivers too,

497
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Speaker 6: with those.

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Speaker 9: Receivers, and it's kind of like, really what And then

499
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Speaker 9: the Cleveland like, Oh, we're gonna we're gonna be slick here,

500
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Speaker 9: We're gonna get rid of Joe so we can move

501
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Speaker 9: up to shoot or so we can politically let him

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Speaker 9: get a shorter on the depth chart.

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Speaker 4: Wo, that was creative.

504
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Speaker 9: So now if you're the other fifty, if you're the

505
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 9: other fifty two for the Browns and you're like, we're rolling,

506
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 9: we have what twelve more games left with love more

507
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Speaker 9: and we're rolling with this?

508
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Speaker 5: Well, just what I think Dylan Gabriel is an upgrade

509
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 5: from Joe flacky iast on one game, which is not

510
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 5: more sure.

511
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Speaker 9: But I mean I'm like, I'm like fine, right, But

512
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Speaker 9: if you're the Joel Botonios, you have to be talked

513
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Speaker 9: out of retirement.

514
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Speaker 3: Yeah, if your.

515
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,439
Speaker 9: Guys like to say, this is how we're going, this

516
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 9: is where we're going through this ish.

517
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Speaker 3: Again, Also, what are the vibes in that quarterback room?

518
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Speaker 7: Yeah, because because there's no middle child anymore, Joe Flatko's

519
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 7: not in there breaking up any of the like kind

520
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Speaker 7: of awkward.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they I mean, it's I can't presive.

522
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 3: There's been some statements.

523
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that just there's no middle child anymore.

524
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Speaker 5: Less than ideal Shandor Sanders is listed as the number

525
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Speaker 5: two quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Maybe they'll bring in at the point.

527
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Speaker 5: It is really funny to me by the way that

528
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Speaker 5: Bailey Zappy is also in that room exactly. He was

529
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Speaker 5: kind of famous in New England for absolutely campaigning to

530
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Speaker 5: get Mac Jones bench.

531
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Speaker 3: They didn't get along.

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Speaker 6: Like It's just like, man, I could see a scenario.

533
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Speaker 6: I don't want this to have him, but I could

534
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Speaker 6: see a scenario where they bring in another quarterback and

535
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 6: then Shador is still not the backup they moved him

536
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 6: back again.

537
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Speaker 2: Just that would be I know, crazy, itaotic.

538
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 4: I mean, right now, I'm kind of like, what do

539
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 4: you you know?

540
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Speaker 3: You know what?

541
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 2: It made me think that since we're low, but holy cow, so.

542
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 5: Jake Browning looked so overmatched in the first three quarters

543
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,199
Speaker 5: of that game, and just like he had lost so

544
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 5: much confidence that I did start to think, and I'm

545
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Speaker 5: sure Bengals fans were thinking this way is like is.

546
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:43,479
Speaker 3: This it for Zach Taylor?

547
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Speaker 5: Like if it goes this way the rest of the year,

548
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Speaker 5: where they pack it in and they just get blown

549
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 5: out every week like they have the last few weeks, Like,

550
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Speaker 5: is that the time that they think about doing it?

551
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 5: So I think when you see a move like this,

552
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Speaker 5: it might be a little bit of them thinking, we

553
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 5: think Joe Flacco is our best chance to save our

554
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 5: jobs by just putting it up there. Because one thing

555
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 5: he made mistakes for the Browns this year and he

556
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 5: was terrible under pressure.

557
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 3: But he's not holding onto that ball. He's got to

558
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 3: go throw it down the field.

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Speaker 4: He can rip it.

560
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Speaker 3: He's got to give Tea and Jamar and Yoshava's a chance.

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Speaker 9: Well, here's the thing, how many more years is Zach

562
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Speaker 9: Taylor having his contract?

563
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Speaker 10: Because if he's got to extended, he's coaching too there.

564
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 9: They do not fire coaches with time left on their deal.

565
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Speaker 9: So he's good.

566
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Speaker 5: I like the concept of not giving up on this

567
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 5: season in the middle of Joe and t and Jamar

568
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 5: and Trey hendrickson Prime. So I just don't necessarily like quarterback.

569
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Speaker 5: They too correct.

570
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Speaker 9: That's why I hate it, Like, go get somebody who's

571
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 9: got some type of petigrew. I didn't even think about Andy Dalton, right,

572
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Speaker 9: that would be a great.

573
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Speaker 7: It makes too much sense, I feel like to say there.

574
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 7: I like that they're not giving up on this season.

575
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 7: I think is giving them a little too much credit,

576
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 7: because yes, they have these players who are incredible in

577
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 7: their prime, But what what else were you going to

578
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 7: do but make a move?

579
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 2: I mean the product. I said this earlier.

580
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 7: It's not like Zach Taylor does not know what he's

581
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 7: watching and does not see how depressing it is when

582
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 7: you trot Jake Browning out there to get killed every day.

583
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 7: Like It's not like he's not aware. So it's more like, well,

584
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 7: what else were you going to do? It's not to me,

585
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 7: It's not like some valiant effort fight to like well.

586
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 5: Especially because keep our dream it's Jake Browning is the

587
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 5: least of their problems. Like Joe Burrow sneaky wasn't that

588
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 5: effective in the five six quarters he played. Joe Burrow

589
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 5: is a superhero, and so that means that everything around

590
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 5: Joe Burrow, whether it's the coaching, especially the offensive line.

591
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 5: The running game is one of the worst in NFL history,

592
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 5: and the defense has never gotten any better. So Browning's

593
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,919
Speaker 5: taking all this heat. But when he was in a

594
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Speaker 5: better situation a couple of years ago and maybe got

595
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 5: a little you know, just caught a hot streak, like

596
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 5: it looked better. But now they're one of the worst

597
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 5: teams in the NFL, and so are the Ravens. What

598
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 5: world that we're living in, Let's put a pin in

599
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 5: all that. Let's take a quick break actually now, and

600
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 5: then let's get to the good stuff, which is nominating

601
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Speaker 5: some players for the open spots.

602
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 3: On quarterback Back on Quarterback Island.

603
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 5: I want to live in a world where at the

604
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 5: end of every season, you know how on Pro Football

605
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 5: Reference they list all the postseason honors they have, like

606
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 5: the All Pro Teams. They also list stuff like the

607
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 5: PFF All Pro Teams or the top you know, they

608
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 5: put top hundreds. We should have end of season Quarterback

609
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 5: Island resident as one of the things like to.

610
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 6: Like every players, we should send some type of award

611
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 6: to the players, print it out.

612
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 5: There has been there has been some talk of sending

613
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 5: to the players. I don't know what a little piece

614
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 5: of a palm tree or something like that.

615
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 3: That would be beautiful sponsors. And so that's why like them.

616
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 5: You know, some day Geno will be like, yeah, it

617
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 5: was rough and in Las Vegas, but he shows his kids.

618
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 5: Look at that end of season Resident twenty twenty four,

619
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 5: this four foot quarterback.

620
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 2: Allen in my backyard. I planted that kids back when

621
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 2: I was made.

622
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 9: I can't wait till I can't wait till Dylan Gabriel

623
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 9: get to show it to his kids.

624
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 5: So we basically got six spots available, like we tabled three.

625
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 5: They had been cautiously maintained by Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hurts,

626
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 5: and Jade and Daniels. But we definitely have three spots

627
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 5: totally available. There was one name that to me actually

628
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 5: didn't fit on the list of guys that I think

629
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 5: have any chance to be nominated or are definitely off.

630
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 5: So I'm just gonna start by voting no, but just

631
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 5: mentioning Bone he's.

632
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 3: Not played well enough my guys this season.

633
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 5: I just felt bad saying that, like you're you're on

634
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 5: the definite nose.

635
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 3: But he hasn't played well this year.

636
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 5: That Eagles game was kind of a great way to

637
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 5: end the game, but he was the problem for three quarters.

638
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 10: Got the Jets over in England. Baby his way that

639
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 10: will help. I think that boat's leaving the pier.

640
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 5: Because he's in such a good situation. I think he

641
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,959
Speaker 5: he might have a case by the end of the year,

642
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 5: but not happening right now.

643
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 2: Why don't we oh Nicks just call his boat the boat?

644
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 3: Oh wow?

645
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 5: Like at is is under U you know, sorry, not capitalized.

646
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 5: Let's go, Colleen, Why don't you throw out a player

647
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 5: that you want to nominate for quarterback?

648
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 3: Islands?

649
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 6: Okay, I would love to see I think Sam Donald.

650
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 2: On the island.

651
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 6: Guys, I'm back on the Sam Donald. I've never left

652
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 6: she never, Like I never left the bandwagon.

653
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 2: I'm also back on the Colts bandwagon, by the way,

654
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 2: I left that.

655
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 3: Never.

656
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 6: But Sam Donald has been playing so well, and I'm

657
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 6: so happy for him because it's like he's he had

658
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 6: that terrible ending in Minnesota after such a great season,

659
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 6: and then he went to Seattle and now he's still

660
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 6: continuing on that larger sample size that we saw from

661
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 6: his time with Kevin O'Connell and the Vikings, and his

662
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 6: numbers back it up too, So I think he absolutely

663
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 6: deserves a spot.

664
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,239
Speaker 9: I mean, Jackson Smith and Jig Was that's a pro

665
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 9: bowler right now and him and Sam have something to

666
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 9: go on the way he distributing it to the tight ends.

667
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, the running game.

668
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 3: Is it all Pro?

669
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 5: Maybe and not that not that it really matters five

670
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 5: games into the season, but I was like, jas N, Yeah,

671
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 5: I think JSN would be my first team All Pro

672
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 5: wide receiver.

673
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 4: Crazy, how about to help my game?

674
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 2: It's incredible.

675
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 7: And what I really like about what the Seahawks are

676
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 7: doing this year, and Sam is really thriving within this

677
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 7: as well, is they're staying patient even if their run

678
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 7: game is not necessarily as efficient, which for the first

679
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 7: few weeks of the season it really was. But like

680
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,239
Speaker 7: Steve and I talked about before, you could see the

681
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 7: theory behind it, and they would not quit using it.

682
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 7: They wouldn't quit trying to stabilize and continuing to run

683
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 7: those plays because they know that it helps stabilize the

684
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 7: quarterback and it gets their play action passing game going.

685
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 7: He is thriving in a heavier personal offense twelve personnel,

686
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 7: two tight ends, sometimes twenty one using a full back,

687
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 7: and it's just cool to see how I.

688
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 9: Just love how the hair says up on the back

689
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 9: of your neck when you talk about using a full bit.

690
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 2: I know, I listened Jude Law and a full back.

691
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 3: That's my wishless and you've never seen robbieating them together.

692
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 3: Robbie oots.

693
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, Darnold would have been one of the guys if

694
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 5: he was on the island that I would say, we

695
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 5: don't even need to discuss I think he was easily

696
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 5: the first one. No, I like discussing because he he's

697
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 5: earned it. I think he's playing at a significantly higher

698
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 5: level so far than even that than he was in Minnesota.

699
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 5: I think he's being asked to do more. In a way,

700
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 5: when they do drop back, they do limit him on

701
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 5: some level, like compared he will have the fewest pass

702
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 5: attempts of anyone that makes it onto quarterback islands. So

703
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 5: in a way that is helping to protect him. But

704
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 5: he he's just throwing dime.

705
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 4: He doesn't he doesn't ye, he doesn't need to be protected.

706
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 9: Now, we saw it last year when he have to

707
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 9: it forty five times in Minnesota, he's fine.

708
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,959
Speaker 7: And then the throws he has made, like when he

709
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,479
Speaker 7: gets his spots and he's and he has as you know,

710
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 7: the the autonomy to kind of go through his reads

711
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 7: and and he has hit some throws.

712
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 5: Manner pressure, yeah too, Like it's a lot of more

713
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 5: creativity out of him this year.

714
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, and it's and I like that he doesn't he's

715
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 7: not pressed to have to make that play every single time.

716
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 7: Like That's what I love about this offense in Seattle

717
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 7: is how much balance it has. And it's also like

718
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 7: they've built like just like a human wall in front

719
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 7: of him. Whether or not they're always going to be

720
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 7: great in pass pro. They've been shaky a little bit

721
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 7: with their run blocking come along the last couple of weeks,

722
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 7: like like you mentioned Steve, but like it's it's massive

723
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 7: tight ends like I said, it's it's the twenty one

724
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 7: personnel when they get that going. It's their running backs

725
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,239
Speaker 7: are huge and pretty been pretty solid in past pro

726
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 7: as well.

727
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 2: Like it's just it's it's.

728
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 7: All about settling him and allowing him to pick his

729
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 7: spots where he is maximizing his comfort level.

730
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 2: And I really like that because he thrives in that.

731
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 2: He's already got better guys.

732
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 4: Kubiak bloodline, I mean yes or no.

733
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 3: Around the room, we have four on yes easy, okay, yes,

734
00:32:58,680 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 3: for what it's worth, I decided to.

735
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 5: Look at just like write it down for uh, spots

736
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 5: of like different advanced stats and plus the PFF grade,

737
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 5: and Donald is in the top four of everything.

738
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, like first, second.

739
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 5: In QB GBR, first in PFF first, and like the

740
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 5: EPA completion percentage over expected fourth in Football Outsiders is

741
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 5: even crazy, No, I did. I just like to see

742
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 5: it because compared to every other quarterback in the league,

743
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 5: he actually had the most like the most consistent across

744
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 5: the board in every way you can measure it.

745
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 3: All right, Steve, why don't you.

746
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 9: Okay, I'm not going for the necessarily slam dunk. Okay,

747
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 9: I'm going for the alley. I want to see if

748
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 9: you guys oop it.

749
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 5: So Donald isigned, by the way, the seventh player on

750
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 5: and we have two totally open.

751
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 9: My guy bo Nicks is not on. Yeah, I'm going

752
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 9: for my other young fave, Drake May.

753
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: Now Greg's next.

754
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 7: The hair on his next Oh yeah, that's I mean, well.

755
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 3: I'm just surprised he brought out so early.

756
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 9: Oh no, let's go there. I mean we did the

757
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 9: last time. I just think the way he is leading,

758
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 9: he's playing. We know Josh McDaniels, and you're going to

759
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 9: try to overdo it on him. Josh McDaniel's overdoes it

760
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 9: on everybody per game. He's handling everything. You're seeing receivers now,

761
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 9: Stefan Diggs is getting healthier, he's playing at a higher level.

762
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 9: Their running game is working. But he has got that

763
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 9: Baker Mayfield stuff to him. And I've talked about it

764
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 9: since I saw him get his butt kicked over in England.

765
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 9: He's got something to him and you're seeing it get

766
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 9: better and better. And I'm not necessarily saying he needs

767
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 9: to boot anybody off the island, but if we've got

768
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 9: an open spot, Drake Mayson, he needs to me he

769
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 9: needs to be on this island.

770
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 5: That game on Sunday night certainly helps because I think

771
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 5: he needed a defining sort of moment where everyone could

772
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 5: see what he does. And you said it really well

773
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 5: that there's the out of structure stuff and the Josh

774
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 5: Allen type stuff. Well, you know, defenders are hanging off them,

775
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 5: but there's a lot of instructor stuff. In fact, I

776
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 5: would say this offense and that speaks to his ability

777
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 5: to handle things has been changing more on a week

778
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 5: to be week basis in terms of how they attack

779
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,280
Speaker 5: opponents do as much as any team in the league

780
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,919
Speaker 5: and it's amazing that he can handle.

781
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 7: That he's playing well enough to overcome their turnovers when

782
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 7: fumbling the ball, and he's he's playing well enough.

783
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 5: Though he's been part of that you were going to

784
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 5: make a case against him a few too many negative

785
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 5: plays and a few too many sacks. So that's where

786
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 5: if we're comparing him to some other great quarterbacks, which.

787
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 3: Which we will be, that that could work against him.

788
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 5: If you're curious on the on the metric fourteenth and

789
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 5: QBR eleventh and PFF fourth and EPA per play plus

790
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 5: completion and seventh in adjusted yards over replacement, So like

791
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 5: right in the mix of where you would think he

792
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 5: would make it. I mean my instinct is yes, certainly,

793
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 5: but it's going to be tricky because we're going to

794
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 5: be comparing him to to other players that are coming up.

795
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,919
Speaker 6: I mean, he he had he was electric in that

796
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 6: game in Buffalo, especially in that environment with the white

797
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 6: out and everything, and it's, you know, a division rival.

798
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 6: Just he looked so poised, so confident, just so chill

799
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 6: about everything that was going on. But also the way

800
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 6: that he played in the game against Pittsburgh, like there

801
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 6: were there's moments if you.

802
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 8: Look back where it's.

803
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 6: I don't know if he's on yet, or if he's

804
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 6: on his way, or maybe he's arrived because of that

805
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 6: last game in Buffalo.

806
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 8: Maybe that cemented his spots.

807
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 9: I'm seeing the crescendo and I stuck up for sure,

808
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 9: and I think he is. When we're looking at how

809
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 9: the quarterback position is being to played being played that

810
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 9: is being decisive right away, whether you're passing it or

811
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 9: running it right that's something you're seeing with Bonick's starting

812
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 9: to do your starting. You saw Trevor Lawrence start to

813
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 9: do it.

814
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 7: Now.

815
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 4: Those guys aren't going to be on.

816
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 9: But you look at the way the position is being

817
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 9: played now because defenses are better, they've caught up right,

818
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 9: You're not seeing a ton of necessarily pressures. You're see

819
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 9: a lot of foreman in front, stack and five man

820
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 9: not necessarily on first down, and quarterbacks are figuring it out.

821
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 9: And he seems like he's one of these guys who's

822
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 9: figuring it out.

823
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 5: And he's forcing the opponents to play more zone because

824
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 5: they're so afraid of his legs, which which opens it up.

825
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 5: I was talking to Ali Connolly last week about that

826
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 5: off air, just that so much of the defensive game

827
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 5: plan against Drake May is a living fear of how

828
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 5: he's going to run downhill.

829
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's I remember back, you know that he's getting

830
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 7: these comps already, and it is certainly coming off of

831
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 7: the game that he just had with Josh Allen on

832
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 7: the other sideline. I would not necessarily won to one

833
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,479
Speaker 7: comp them. But remember back a year many years ago

834
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 7: at this point when we saw everything with Josh Allen,

835
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 7: and we also but we also saw some of the

836
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 7: erratic decisions, and we saw some of the mistakes and

837
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 7: the plays. I think Drake May's playing more disciplined.

838
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree that guy was.

839
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 5: I would not have expected him to be like among

840
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 5: the league leaders in completion percentage. Like there's the occasional

841
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 5: one where he'll he'll take the sack and he'll just

842
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 5: freeze a little JH mcgahm.

843
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 3: But yeah, he wants them to take a sect. Do

844
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 3: we want to vote on him?

845
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 5: The trick is we're going to be like, would we

846
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 5: take him over Jaden Daniels, for instance, two second year players?

847
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 5: I would just would we take him over Stafford and

848
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 5: Daniel Dimes?

849
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 3: Like all these things are gonna have We're gonna have

850
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 3: to think about that.

851
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 7: I will say, like, I'm also and this might just

852
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 7: be me personally, but I'd love to hear from you

853
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 7: guys on this. Like I'm weighing in Jade and Daniels

854
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 7: missing games.

855
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 2: That's the thing.

856
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's fair.

857
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 7: That's why I would vote specifically, That's what it would

858
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 7: vote May over him, because I'm weighing in.

859
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 3: Right, let's vote.

860
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 6: Then I'm also projecting forward and I'm looking at the

861
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,720
Speaker 6: Patriots schedule to see how.

862
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 3: He wis not fair?

863
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 6: But the Saints coming up, the Titans, the Browns, the Falcons,

864
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 6: the Jets.

865
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 3: Like schedule helps loud Colleen.

866
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm gonna put them all on the island. This

867
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,720
Speaker 2: feels crazy. Yes, I will also put him on the island.

868
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm the one who freaking campaign for.

869
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 3: Look at that. I didn't even have to vote. There's

870
00:38:59,000 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 3: no bias.

871
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Drake May Wow, good hosting Megan.

872
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 5: Who knew he would be achieving the highest honor possible.

873
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 3: Hope we don't hear so early.

874
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 4: We'll be fine, all right.

875
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 5: Drake May is on. Both him and Sam Darnald have

876
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 5: joined the island. Darnald on for a second time, was

877
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 5: off and on throughout last year, and he's back in

878
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 5: twenty twenty five. Sure is, we've got eight players totally

879
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 5: locked in.

880
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 3: Good Jordan, why don't you nominate this.

881
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 7: Well, we're about to have nine with nine because Matthew

882
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 7: freaking Stafford is getting my nutation.

883
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 2: I know you're all shocked, You're all so surprised.

884
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 7: Oh, this chick is talking about Matthew Stafford again. Won't

885
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 7: she ever shut up about Matthew Stafford. No, I will

886
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 7: never ever quit that guy because if you go and

887
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 7: watch some of the throws that he has made. Yes,

888
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 7: he's had some bad quarters, he's had some bad halves,

889
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 7: but overall, through the first four weeks this season, he

890
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 7: is playing at among one of the best quarterbacks in

891
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 7: the league right now, he is up in the top

892
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 7: five and EPA per drop back right now, just purely

893
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 7: looking at statistics, but if you look at the arm

894
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 7: angles are still there.

895
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 2: The no looks.

896
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 7: I mean that game against Indianapolis, watching his micd up

897
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 7: and some of the angles that they were able to

898
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 7: show showcase more clearly of the throws that he was

899
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 7: making than going back and watching the all twenty two

900
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 7: of the precision that he was able to place some

901
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 7: of those passes with and Puka Nakua is on track

902
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 7: for a record breaking season not just because he is

903
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 7: one of the best, if not the best, receiver in

904
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 7: the NFL right now, but also because Number nine is

905
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 7: getting him the football at any type of plane bending,

906
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 7: brain breaking throw that you want this guy to make. Oh,

907
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 7: and then he's feeling it because he will talk smack

908
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 7: to you in your face right afterward.

909
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 2: Don't effing look at me. Don't effing look at me.

910
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 7: After he hits a no look touchdown pass against the

911
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 7: Indianapolis Colts.

912
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 2: I mean, he is playing outstanding football.

913
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 7: I feel like this will be unanimous, but I just

914
00:40:58,239 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 7: had to have my spiel.

915
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 9: Yeah, the NFL leader passing yards. He makes calling a

916
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 9: game so much fun for showing me you think about it?

917
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 7: If yeah, so, maybe hey, don't take the ball out

918
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 7: of his hands on oh myke go.

919
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 2: Get what are we doing? Anyway?

920
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 3: I did.

921
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 9: I didn't love the call, but I am kind of

922
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 9: on one a guy like if you can't get a

923
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 9: yard when you need, I know, yeah you don't.

924
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 4: Also one of those.

925
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 3: Guys, he's just like the center of the end.

926
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 5: He's one of the center pieces of the NFL right now,

927
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 5: He's like just been involved in so many great moments

928
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 5: and games this season that I think it's beyond beyond

929
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 5: the numbers, which are good, but like it's even better

930
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 5: than that.

931
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I'm also just looking at who could possibly

932
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 6: go on still, who's like hanging out there, who we've tabled,

933
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 6: and so if it's Stafford up here on the top,

934
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:43,720
Speaker 6: we haven't.

935
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 2: Have we decided on Lamar, We haven't reallyd.

936
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 5: Lamar, Hurts and Dayde and Daniels have been tabled, and

937
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 5: I would put Stafford over all of them.

938
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 3: So that's why it makes it an easy number nine.

939
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes for nine, Yes.

940
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 3: Yes for nine, the number one FF quarterback.

941
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 7: I now you don't like PFF, but I think I

942
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 7: don't mind when they put Stafford in number one.

943
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 5: Yes, he's great. He's great across the board. In the

944
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 5: advance that's except for like adjusted EPA for play where

945
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 5: he's fifteenth, I'm curious, like what goes into that. But

946
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 5: everything else he's electric and he's just as obvious I think.

947
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 5: Right now, so we have nine quarterbacks on the island. Okay,

948
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:28,240
Speaker 5: we have three players that we've tabled. So now look

949
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 5: we Eric would think about it like the island's kind

950
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 5: of full right now, and if we add anyone, we

951
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 5: have to take someone off. All Eric Roberts cares about

952
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 5: is that we don't lose track. I've been living here

953
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 5: for a year and a half. Now I know how

954
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 5: to do with the island.

955
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 2: Wait a second, can we just check in with you?

956
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 2: How are we doing?

957
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 5: I will say this has been the smoothest, But now

958
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 5: that I'm saying it, this has been the smoothest go around.

959
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 2: I'm following.

960
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 3: Okay, yes, you do a great, good job. Okay, Okay.

961
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 5: The trick is if if we do put someone else

962
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 5: new on the island, that means we are accepting that

963
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 5: someone else has to come off or you know.

964
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 9: I think some of the injury discussions we were having, yes,

965
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 9: absolutely factor.

966
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 2: Okay, there's a major name.

967
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's to me, there's one more name. There's a

968
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 5: couple more names to discuss, but I think there's one

969
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 5: more name that I will voice who is it strongly?

970
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 3: And it's Daniel Jones. Yeah, come on, okay, you go.

971
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 3: Then let's go with a boy.

972
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 2: Okay.

973
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 6: It's not like the flashiest throws or anything like that,

974
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 6: but they're efficient and he's like he is Sam Donald

975
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 6: of this year, even though Sam Donald is still Sam

976
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 6: Donald of this year, but he.

977
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 5: Came through the same train there up in Sam Donald's graduated,

978
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 5: though he's backing it up now.

979
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 3: Sam Donald is kind.

980
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 8: Of like Faker we let him off to fly.

981
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 5: He's kind of like Gino in year two or three

982
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 5: of Seattle, like he's he's a made man.

983
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones.

984
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 6: We did not expect no Daniel Jones, and I couldn't

985
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 6: believe it when I was looking up all of the

986
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 6: metrics this morning, and he Daniel Jones because he's been

987
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:06,720
Speaker 6: so efficient and he's not really making boneheaded mistakes either.

988
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 6: He's in the top of so many of these categories.

989
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 6: He's playing so well. And the fact that they're what

990
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 6: four and one the Colts right now?

991
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 4: Yeah?

992
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 2: Is that right? Yeah?

993
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 3: And he passes the eye test.

994
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 2: Don't you think it just is the Stafford that's their

995
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 2: own I know, I know.

996
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 3: But they lost because like Jonathan Taylor dropped a ball and.

997
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 2: I've been holding it in for weeks. You just have

998
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:31,959
Speaker 2: that one.

999
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 3: He's taking Stafford.

1000
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,280
Speaker 4: Off last year, so he is it's the boomerang.

1001
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 7: To Colleen's point, like he's he's taking care of the

1002
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 7: football for the most part. He's not making a lot

1003
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 7: of negative decisions. But he's also the one thing I

1004
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 7: worry about him sustaining through the course of the season

1005
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 7: is the hits that he takes.

1006
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 2: He takes a part hits.

1007
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 7: He's obviously using his legs a little bit, but he

1008
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 7: allows Shane Steichen to come alive the.

1009
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 2: Way that But Shane Steiking, you could just you could

1010
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 2: feel it.

1011
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 7: He's like he was like crawling out of his own

1012
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 7: skin last year, just really wanting to devise a game

1013
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 7: plan for somebody who's going to not just make the

1014
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:11,439
Speaker 7: throws that he tells him.

1015
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,439
Speaker 2: To make, but also make some tough throws too.

1016
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 9: I'm glad you said, I think because I've been saying

1017
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 9: that Shane Stiking can coach.

1018
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 4: For whatever people want to say.

1019
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 9: He won seven games at Gardner Minshew who almost got

1020
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 9: them into the playoffs a couple of years ago. He

1021
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 9: can coach. Now he's got a quarterback. And boy are

1022
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 9: the Colts making a lot of people look bad.

1023
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 4: Right.

1024
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 9: They got rid of what two, if not three starting

1025
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 9: offensive linemen. Offensive lines playing pretty good. They made a

1026
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 9: change in DC. Oh boy, Louis hen Roumo. He was

1027
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 9: really the problem of Naddy that defense is playing well.

1028
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 9: But look at Jonathan Taylor. Now you got teams having

1029
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 9: to adjust how they play the Colts defensively, and.

1030
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 4: Boy that Tyler Warren pick a tight ends looking.

1031
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 2: Really smartrect Yeah he's Fans are like.

1032
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's been incredible, And the numbers do back up.

1033
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 5: He is first in ESPN's QBR, he is first in

1034
00:45:55,640 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 5: FDN's defensive yards above replacement. He is ninth in terms

1035
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 5: of PFF and sixth. Then like like either way, it's

1036
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 5: all in the top ten and a couple. He's right

1037
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 5: there at the top and more than anything, Like when

1038
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 5: you think about the first five weeks of the twenty

1039
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 5: twenty five season, obviously surprises are going to stand out

1040
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 5: more than like what you expected to me.

1041
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 3: The fact that we're talking.

1042
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,919
Speaker 5: About Daniel Jones at all, like for him, like that's

1043
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,760
Speaker 5: such a huge surprise. Yes on Danny Dives, Yes, Indiana Jones.

1044
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 3: He doesn't like it. He's no fun, he doesn't like it.

1045
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 3: He's on. He's what a world that we live in.

1046
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,280
Speaker 2: He's gonna have so much fun on that Danny Dimes.

1047
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 4: He's the party guy, is.

1048
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 2: A little bit back, lets your hair down a little bit.

1049
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 5: Okay, there's only one other player that hasn't been tabled

1050
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 5: that I think is worthy of at least discussing, and

1051
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 5: that's Jordan Love.

1052
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:52,919
Speaker 4: That's a great point.

1053
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I'm sitting here like that's it. I

1054
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 10: think we've gotten to the end of the list.

1055
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,760
Speaker 8: So those are the same exactly.

1056
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 5: So we have ten. We have ten people on the

1057
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 5: island for sure. We've tabled Lamar, Hurts, Jaden, and Love.

1058
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 5: That's four players. So two of those four are going

1059
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 5: to get on the island and two will not be.

1060
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 5: So I think keep that in mind when we're going

1061
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 5: through these four players.

1062
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,240
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I'm I'm with Jordan.

1063
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 9: I think if Lamar didn't play last week, he's not

1064
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 9: going to play this week. Then they have a bye.

1065
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 9: That's three weeks he shelved. And and just using the

1066
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 9: same rules we applied to Justin Herbert at the start

1067
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 9: of last year.

1068
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 2: And that we would apply to qualify and they apply to.

1069
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 4: Jade, they don't qualify because that I mean.

1070
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 8: We need to kick someone.

1071
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 5: And Lamar is different a because he played better than

1072
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 5: because he played so well that matter, because he's Lamar Jackson.

1073
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 5: He was the first team All Pro last year and

1074
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 5: he was playing fantastic this year. So I do think

1075
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 5: it's a little different. I think it's just sliding scales

1076
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 5: in terms of rules. But I don't know what to

1077
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 5: do about that, so I I have him.

1078
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 4: He was insane.

1079
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 9: I mean i've I've I covered some of their games

1080
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 9: and he was really all they had going off.

1081
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, just feel weird picking them off.

1082
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 7: Jordan Love to me too, I would rather put Jordan

1083
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 7: Love on the island than keep Jaden Daniels on within these.

1084
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 2: Parameters because Jordan I had no problem with it.

1085
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 7: Jordan Love's EPA for drop pack drop back is right

1086
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 7: up there with Jared Goff and Josh Allen.

1087
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:22,760
Speaker 2: And he's playing.

1088
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 7: Really, really well, and especially I mean they people people forget.

1089
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 7: They've banged up with injuries too, They've missing some offensive

1090
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 7: linemen at a certain point. They were also dealing with

1091
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 7: the receiver receivers kind of shuffling around, and I think,

1092
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 7: and I think he's playing really well. You're gonna get

1093
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 7: some weird games with him, but I do think he's

1094
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 7: playing I.

1095
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 5: Agree, But when it comes to the intangible of like

1096
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 5: defining the position and has he really put his stamp

1097
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 5: on the season. He is someone I just struggle with

1098
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 5: because you're right, the numbers back you up. Sixth in

1099
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 5: PFF as well, second and EPA plus completion percentage over expected,

1100
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 5: eleventh in QBR, eleventh in the in the defensive yards

1101
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 5: of just so a little over there.

1102
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 2: In top twelve.

1103
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 5: But so much of that is off that Cowboys game,

1104
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 5: which was a defining game of this season, and he

1105
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:10,240
Speaker 5: was fantastic, but you know, opponent in that game, it did.

1106
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 2: Feel like defense is playing better.

1107
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 5: Now, Yeah, it did feel like he got carried a

1108
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 5: little bit the first couple of weeks. And so when

1109
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 5: I think of like defining the position this year, it's

1110
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 5: I would have a hard time with. I think him

1111
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 5: versus Hurts is a very interesting let's talk about.

1112
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 6: It hurts, all right, yeah, because that's don't tell anyone this,

1113
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 6: but I think we might have to kick him off.

1114
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 8: Really, I don't know.

1115
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 6: I just when I look at the performances and even

1116
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 6: the numbers, and even just the dysfunction that is happening

1117
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 6: right now in Philadelphia with that offense, they have no identity.

1118
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 6: Their identity should be the running game, and Saquon Barkley

1119
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,720
Speaker 6: and then everything else builds off of that. But because

1120
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 6: with the new offensive coordinator, it just feels like it's

1121
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 6: so erratic. Every week you're having something different, and you're

1122
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 6: having receivers that are upset, you're having just it's not

1123
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 6: I feel like the quarterback in Jalen Hurts, he's not

1124
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 6: the one that, even though their record is so good

1125
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 6: right now, I just don't think that he is playing.

1126
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 8: As well as he could.

1127
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 6: I just other quarterbacks right now are playing better than him.

1128
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 2: I just don't think he's the problem.

1129
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 7: I think he's far from the problem that I think

1130
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 7: their offensive line. The fact that I mean he can't

1131
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 7: call his he's not calling his own plays here either.

1132
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 8: But if we're just talking about the results.

1133
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 3: The run game, but is he helping to call his

1134
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 3: own plays? That's something like you're just trying to guess

1135
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 3: what the problem is here.

1136
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 5: And I think part of the problem might be, like

1137
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 5: they've made it the Jalen Hurts offense because we have

1138
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 5: heard this about play callers in Philadelphia before, of like,

1139
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 5: how come they're not doing this?

1140
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 3: How come they're not doing that?

1141
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 5: Well, you know what, this offense reminds me a lot

1142
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 5: of like almost every Eagles offense like they played to

1143
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts his strengths which might be a little more

1144
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 5: limited than other people. And I think he's been in

1145
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 5: power as he should be to have a strong voice

1146
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 5: in like what they do. And maybe I don't know

1147
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 5: what you've been hearing, Steve, because I'm not hearing anything.

1148
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 5: I'm basing this up report. No, I'm not hearing anything

1149
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 5: like is that what aj Brown and DeVante Smith are

1150
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 5: upset about.

1151
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 4: You're kind of walking me down the Russell Wilson path.

1152
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 9: Right when early in career, when Russell was doing things,

1153
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 9: they're playing for championships. He didn't necessarily have that autonomy

1154
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 9: that he got paid and he started doing some stuff

1155
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 9: and as Russ's show, let Russ cook, and he saw

1156
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 9: what happened. I don't think that's what's gonna happen here.

1157
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 9: And we are not giving enough credit to what defenses

1158
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 9: are doing to offenses. This is where now the offenses

1159
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 9: have to adjust. For the past five years, defenses are

1160
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 9: trying to have to figure out, Okay, how do we

1161
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 9: stop Saquon because they've got aj Brown over here and

1162
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 9: they've got Davonte Smith. Well, you know what let's just

1163
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 9: stop Saquon and make everybody else adjust to us. Let's

1164
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 9: stop Derrick Henry and make the Ravens adjust to us.

1165
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 9: Let's figure it out. Defenses are becoming so much more athletic, Jordan.

1166
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:58,240
Speaker 9: We see it all the time. You're seeing odd even odd.

1167
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 9: It doesn't matter the down anymore, to be four and

1168
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 9: five on first down. Now we're seeing three, we're seeing

1169
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 9: six back. Yeah, defenses are doing things now analytically, tendencies

1170
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 9: position a field to put all kind of question bubbles

1171
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 9: above these quarterbacks and offensive coordinators. I think that's more

1172
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 9: of the issue, and I think some of these quarterbacks

1173
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 9: are going to heat. I don't think Jalen is necessarily

1174
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 9: the issue. But I'm wondering when Greg was talking about.

1175
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 9: What Greg was intimating is he doesn't have that Drake

1176
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 9: may ish to him, so he doesn't have the dude like, hey,

1177
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 9: you shut up, you shut up. Let's go in a

1178
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 9: ball game and let's make that happen. Well, that could

1179
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 9: be happening behind closed doors.

1180
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 8: We don't know what I would say.

1181
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 6: Here's what I would do with Hurts, because Hurts right

1182
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,720
Speaker 6: now is just someone who is making me nervous about

1183
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 6: being on the island and the way that he is

1184
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 6: playing and the team in general, the entire offense, the

1185
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 6: way that it's working. I looking at who is on

1186
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 6: the island and who has come off the island. I

1187
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 6: would not vote him off the island because I would

1188
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 6: put if I would put in Daniel Jones and Georgian Love,

1189
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 6: and I.

1190
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 8: Would take off Lamar Jackson and.

1191
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 6: Jayden Daniels because of the injury rule, and then leave

1192
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:07,919
Speaker 6: Hurts in there.

1193
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 8: And that's it. There's no open there's no more open

1194
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 8: to the.

1195
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 4: Bait is Lamar bait here.

1196
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1197
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 5: The Hurts thing is so weird too, because I kind

1198
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 5: of think he's playing a little better this year. He's

1199
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 5: actually made really good. I think he's doing what he

1200
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 5: should do. He's coming off his best game, which I

1201
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 5: feel like got lost because they lost, But like he

1202
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,439
Speaker 5: had a number of big time throws in that game,

1203
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 5: but they lost, So we react so much to the

1204
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 5: win or the lost. He struggled, kicked right, We like

1205
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 5: I thought he struggled a lot more in the Rams

1206
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 5: game and in the Bucks game.

1207
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 3: It's it's so funny because I do think if.

1208
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 7: He gets off second half in the Bucks game, the

1209
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 7: first half.

1210
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 2: He was perfect, right, that's okay.

1211
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 4: The but they're so were the best defense.

1212
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, they got a bunch laid on him by Seattle,

1213
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 9: but the Bucks one of the best.

1214
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 4: I just Denver arguably the best defense.

1215
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 3: I just mean I've seen a little growth.

1216
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 5: I actually think he's playing better than he had did

1217
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 5: in the regular season last year. So I really struggle.

1218
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 5: But the numbers are with you. Of all these players,

1219
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 5: his numbers are the most middling, anywhere from tenth to

1220
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 5: seventeenth in all these sort of advanced or pff noum.

1221
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 4: Let me let me let me phrase it like this.

1222
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 9: If Joe Donut all of a sudden pops on quarterback

1223
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 9: Island and he sees Jalen hurts On and Lamar off,

1224
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 9: whatch you're going to think about our credibility?

1225
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 3: Well, that's that's where I wanted to go next.

1226
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 2: That's the thing.

1227
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 3: Okay, let's all stand on.

1228
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 5: The table for one quarterback that's remaining, and who you

1229
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 5: feel the strongest of these four quarterbacks.

1230
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:31,760
Speaker 3: So there's two open spots.

1231
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 4: And this is regardless of the injury rule.

1232
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 3: And this doesn't mean they're on.

1233
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 5: But I've just wanted to see what everyone's saying, no,

1234
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 5: the injury rules, whatever is in your mind of how

1235
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 5: you want to handle.

1236
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 3: That is involved.

1237
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 2: May I interject?

1238
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 4: Sure?

1239
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 7: I feel like if I feel like, if we're going

1240
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:48,720
Speaker 7: to apply it, we apply it. If we don't, we don't,

1241
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 7: And I'm fine not applying it because it's almost too

1242
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 7: nebulous to apply to one and not the other.

1243
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 8: If we have an astroism.

1244
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 5: So that would say like, either you're saying either Lamar

1245
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 5: and Jayden are on together or they're off together.

1246
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 2: Well, I'm saying I think there.

1247
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 4: You know, I think Jayden's off?

1248
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 3: All right?

1249
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 5: Should we vote on Jaden Daniels. But I do think

1250
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 5: there's some agreement there.

1251
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 2: Because I think there's a couple guys playing better than

1252
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 2: him right now.

1253
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 5: It's close, but I agree with you. I'm voting now

1254
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 5: on Jaden Daniels. Okay, Jaden Daniels is off. He's going

1255
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 5: to make him look bad for this one.

1256
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 2: I love it. I want him to. I want him to.

1257
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 3: Look like we want to be the motivation, which means

1258
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 3: we have Lamar, we have on the list, Jordan.

1259
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 4: Love mm hmm, those two right?

1260
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 3: And who else? Now? I finally it finally happened. It

1261
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 3: finally happened.

1262
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 2: Like Colleens. Colleen's got it, like Jalen j that's it.

1263
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, so we have one spot for Jalen hurts Lamar

1264
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 5: or two spots for Jalen hurts Lamar and Jordan Love.

1265
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 3: That that was That was it. I feel I feel

1266
00:55:58,360 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 3: the strongest. I'm just curious.

1267
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 5: This is not binding, but I just want to get

1268
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 5: a feel of how the room is feeling, because I

1269
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 5: don't know, like, of those three players, who do you

1270
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 5: want on the most steve Between Jalen hurts Lamar and

1271
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 5: Jordan it would be your number.

1272
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 9: One if and I am applying the injury rule because

1273
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 9: we decided last year that Justin Herbert was not going

1274
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 9: to start the season there because of the ankle injury.

1275
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 9: Even though we know Justin Herbert is one of the

1276
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 9: best quarterbacks in the NFL. Lamar can get back on right,

1277
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 9: I would say Jordan Love because he's healthy, he's on

1278
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 9: the field, and he's playing well.

1279
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 4: I am adhering to.

1280
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 6: The Jordan rule, but I think that when we put

1281
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 6: this out there for the people to see, there should

1282
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 6: be some type of asterisk that they are on injury island.

1283
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:36,959
Speaker 2: Right now?

1284
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 3: What about you who would be your top one.

1285
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 7: I recognize my own hypocrisy here, but it's Lamar for me.

1286
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 3: If I'm looking at it, I just feel like Lamar

1287
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:47,800
Speaker 3: breaks the rules. I don't care well if.

1288
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 4: You're going to soften it. If you're going to soften

1289
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 4: it's absolutely no, no.

1290
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 2: It is a solid rule.

1291
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 5: All right, let's vote. Let's vote. Let's vote on Lamar.

1292
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 5: I vote yes on Lamar.

1293
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:56,399
Speaker 6: Jack.

1294
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 3: I just can't do it. I can't take about the island.

1295
00:56:58,480 --> 00:56:59,760
Speaker 3: But I know he's return.

1296
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 2: Everyone came after me for this. I mean, obviously he's

1297
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 2: a great quarterback and he's no, no, no, you're you

1298
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 2: are I.

1299
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 7: By the way, not enough space taking Colleen was like

1300
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 7: one man show manning this game. When we all lost

1301
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 7: it there for a second, I got at it. Yeah,

1302
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 7: hy the way, By the way, I want to I

1303
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 7: want to make sure that's clear.

1304
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 3: You went to Trinity College.

1305
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 7: So I also think that it's really funny that Greg

1306
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 7: asked me for my opinion, then waited until I almost

1307
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 7: nodded the affirmative, then jumped right back in because he

1308
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 7: knew someone was going to agree with him.

1309
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 3: So what's going on that I feel like Jordan is

1310
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 3: tired of doing the.

1311
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 9: Show Aber how she started. It is not just the reality,

1312
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 9: it's the idea. It's the idea she's she's hanging over.

1313
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 3: He should we vote on Jordan Love versus Jalen Hurts.

1314
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 3: That's what it is. Oh wow, down to we have

1315
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 3: one spot left.

1316
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 2: That's a good that's a good.

1317
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 3: One quarterback island.

1318
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 5: I gotta say, I don't have a what are we

1319
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 5: who were super strong feeling? Where are you leaning?

1320
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 9: Well?

1321
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 8: I'm going to keep Hurts all on the island over Love.

1322
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 3: That is where I'm leaning to.

1323
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 6: But it's tough because the numbers suggest that he should

1324
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 6: not be on the island.

1325
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe I'm reacting to last year where we didn't

1326
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 5: have Hurts on for so long and he's not playing amazing.

1327
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 5: But I do think to make QB island, you sort

1328
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 5: of you have to almost put no doubt to it,

1329
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 5: like you have to do it Danny Dimes or Drake Mate.

1330
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 3: You gotta like just bawling out so much like.

1331
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 5: The tie goes to the guy on the island, and

1332
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 5: to me, this is about a time I.

1333
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 2: Don't know I love it.

1334
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 7: I don't know I love it. Rule the tie goes

1335
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 7: to the person on the island already.

1336
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 5: That's also it's Jalen Hurts, like he is defining the

1337
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 5: position in a way, whether you like it or not.

1338
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:46,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got it, you know the run game.

1339
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 3: So we're happy about you.

1340
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 5: So we haven't We haven't heard from Jordan and Steve

1341
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 5: in terms of this to be he was in on love.

1342
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 5: So it's really up to Jordan whether we're at a

1343
00:58:55,840 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 5: deadlock Hurts versus Love, or whether Jalen hurts stay on

1344
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 5: the eye.

1345
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 7: Well, either way, it's Jalen Hurts because the tie goes

1346
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 7: to the guy on the island, okay.

1347
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 2: Or or or let me just throw this out there.

1348
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 8: What if it is Jalen Hurts or wait, I'm damn it.

1349
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 6: I lost she was almost I had had it.

1350
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 2: I got a pack, I got a pack, I got

1351
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 2: it back.

1352
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 8: What if it is Jordan Love versus Drake.

1353
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 7: May, I'd put May probably Okay, all right, Okay, Now

1354
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 7: that's a good thing.

1355
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 5: That's a good thing to bring up to not assume

1356
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 5: that love is behind all those guys. Yeah, because we

1357
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 5: put May on, we put Dimes.

1358
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 8: On, uh huh, we put Donald on on.

1359
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,919
Speaker 3: Stafford May would be the last guy.

1360
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 5: He would be my eleventh guy, right, now, so you

1361
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 5: were right to say that, Yeah, suggest that name. I

1362
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 5: would have him behind Dimes and certainly Stafford and Darnald

1363
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 5: uh so far, but the last spot, Jordan Love just

1364
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 5: make us.

1365
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 3: Feel something more? Do more?

1366
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 5: I have a feeling that he's going to be there.

1367
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 5: But should we should we call it?

1368
00:59:59,000 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 11: So?

1369
00:59:59,080 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 4: Who are we voting on?

1370
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 5: I think let's vote on Jalen Hurts. I vote yes

1371
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 5: on Jalen Hurts. The stays, I'll vote yes. Oh, I'm resigned.

1372
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 8: Yes, I feel like this was begrudgingly. I don't know.

1373
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 4: How can we reopen the government help negotiations?

1374
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 5: Discuss that amongst yourselves while we take a quick break.

1375
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 5: We we have reached the end of Quarterback Island, the

1376
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 5: second episode of this season, and let's go over.

1377
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 2: Were sweating a little bit.

1378
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 6: Loved this episode, you followed, I loved it.

1379
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 4: I mean, we need customs in TSA to get the

1380
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 4: Quarterback Island.

1381
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 5: Josh Allen, you're still on the island. Dak Prescott Rollers,

1382
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 5: you're in the MVP mix. You're definitely on the island.

1383
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 5: Baker Mayfield, You're one of the first people we knew

1384
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 5: were on the island. Patrick Mahomes, I see you. You're

1385
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 5: making football fun again. Herbo GoF we can count on you.

1386
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 3: We absolutely love you. Sam Darnold was the biggest no

1387
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 3: brainer of all the guys to jump on the island.

1388
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 3: That's that's growth, not just for him but for me.

1389
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford easy one.

1390
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 5: Danny Dimes somehow was not a heavy conversation. Drake may

1391
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 5: is on the island, and yes, even though you're hurt,

1392
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson, you are there and you can talk with

1393
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts about what it's like to play in Super Bowl.

1394
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 3: Can I make one multiple?

1395
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 9: I make one optrovision. Yes, there's a quarterback. We did

1396
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 9: not mention one time all shown.

1397
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 3: No, this is my nightmare.

1398
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 7: He was supposed to be my losm he was.

1399
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 5: I did not put him down on the ones who

1400
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 5: are definitely off, but he was definitely off.

1401
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 2: I looked at his name and put a question mark.

1402
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 9: Next time, I've got a hollow bubble.

1403
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 2: We left him in the dark.

1404
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 3: He's coming off an ice game, the double one. Yeah,

1405
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 3: off an ice game. I mean there were three games

1406
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 3: before the team they were three games before that.

1407
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 2: Just throw it up the DK.

1408
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 6: Maybe they're just like getting going now, you know, we're

1409
01:01:56,760 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 6: going ah, let's dregs talk a little T and F

1410
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 6: and a couple of trades quickly after the break.

1411
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 5: Back on NFL Daily, the Eagles and the Giants have

1412
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 5: a lot to live up to in terms of taking

1413
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 5: a primetime spot making it your own. That Bill's Patriots

1414
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 5: game was a great oh yeah, fiftime game.

1415
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 3: Oh in the end.

1416
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 4: And last week starts to night game, the Rams Niners.

1417
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 5: Game this seaon one of the best games of the season,

1418
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 5: I think, and then the Jags.

1419
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 4: And the Chiefs break game.

1420
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 5: Just days Jordan after we spent an entire segment, an

1421
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 5: entire show naming the Jaguars kind of the unofficial team

1422
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 5: of NFL Daily, but calling them the most messy fun

1423
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 5: team in the NFL. They showed up and they made

1424
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 5: it happen like that game was so fun.

1425
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 3: I don't know if Giants Eagles is going to be

1426
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 3: that fun.

1427
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 7: Yeah. I never roll out weird stuff happening, but this, yeah,

1428
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 7: I don't. It's just it's weird watching the Eagles right now.

1429
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 7: We mentioned this earlier in the show. There banged up

1430
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 7: along their offensive line. Saquon Barkley, he's going for two

1431
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 7: hundred yeah, well reportedly, yes, it's gonna play, but feeling

1432
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 7: some knee soreness earlier this week.

1433
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 2: It's a short week, obviously, that's trick like job.

1434
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 4: I love it is exciting. Hey Giants, I got a

1435
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 4: sore knee.

1436
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 9: Yeah, when I pounce you for two hundred, he feels

1437
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 9: so sore.

1438
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 6: And their run defense is so bad, Yeah, the Giants.

1439
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 6: So you have Saquon going in there, playing them for

1440
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 6: the second time, and yeah, this is like a perfect

1441
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 6: matchup for him.

1442
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 5: But their running game is so bad. It's so crazy

1443
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 5: to think, Oh, the slump busters they might be. It's

1444
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 5: the interior of their offensive line. Tackles are great, they're fine.

1445
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 5: Lane Johnson looked back to being hisself, but Cam Jurgen's

1446
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 5: admit he's playing banged up. He's not playing well. Landon

1447
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 5: Dickerson has a million injuries. He might not play incause

1448
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 5: he has the ankle injury. And then Steen and you

1449
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 5: just think about the identity of what the Eagles have

1450
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 5: been over the last ten years really, and it's like

1451
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 5: this offensive line and it's their pass rush and they're

1452
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 5: one of the They're not in the top twenty in

1453
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 5: the league right now in terms of quarterback hits or

1454
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 5: pressures from a four man pass rush one in the trenches,

1455
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 5: and that's the.

1456
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 3: Whole Eagles thing.

1457
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 5: So there is something about like all the negative attention

1458
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 5: on the Eagles kind of makes sense to me because

1459
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 5: I think they're searching a little bit for who they are.

1460
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 9: Well, I mean, look, we saw the Chiefs go through it, right,

1461
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 9: It's like whoever is on top? Okay, what are the flaws?

1462
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 9: We saw the Pages go through it for years? What

1463
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 9: are their flaws? Oh, they're starting two and two or

1464
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 9: two and three and then they go ahead and march

1465
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 9: it on. I think the Eagles again, they're nicked up,

1466
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 9: but they're going to be just fine. And it's Thursday

1467
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 9: night though, so you can't count the Giants up. You know,

1468
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:39,919
Speaker 9: everyone thought that the Niners were.

1469
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 2: Gonna get the EA spot legitimate flaws, yeah.

1470
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 9: And everyone thought like the Niners are gonna get ten

1471
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 9: spot last week the other injuries coming here to LA

1472
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 9: and they came in here and they showed up.

1473
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 4: So you just don't know what's gonna happen.

1474
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 6: I expect the Eagles pass rush to I mean, I

1475
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 6: feel I feel like Jackson Dart is just going to

1476
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 6: be under pressure all night long, especially because he doesn't

1477
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 6: have Malik Neighbors or you know, that's that's a rough one.

1478
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 5: And Jermaine A Luminor has been out of practice this week.

1479
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 5: Granted it's Tuesday, it's tough to note. He's quietly had

1480
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 5: one of the best years of any impending free agent contract.

1481
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 5: He's playing really well right tackle like he is. Oh,

1482
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 5: he's pretty high on less because there's.

1483
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 9: Never time I think Devin Lloyd there's number one on that.

1484
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 3: That's a high one option.

1485
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 5: If he doesn't play, then suddenly, yeah, that could wake

1486
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 5: up the Eagles pass or sure, maybe they'll keep blitzing more.

1487
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 5: You know, they're having to come out of their comfort

1488
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 5: zone a little bit.

1489
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, Vic Fangio calling still not like in exorbitant amount

1490
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 7: of blitzeres, but more than we're used to seeing from him,

1491
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 7: especially in the first half halves of games when their

1492
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 7: four man front is not getting home. But yes, I

1493
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 7: think you do that. But you also have to be

1494
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 7: aware of Jackson Dart on the move. And this is

1495
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 7: where I think quin Jon Mitchell and Cooper Degen come

1496
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 7: in so handy as like such an incredible tandem. You

1497
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 7: cannot get anything into the flat against Cooper dejen when

1498
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 7: he is playing in the slot. That's just that's basically

1499
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 7: a no run, no passing zone at this point. And

1500
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 7: who is Jackson dart aside from his legs where he's Yes,

1501
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 7: he's running up some of the middle creases, but he's

1502
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 7: also been trying to hit the perimeter a little bit,

1503
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 7: so those flats on the left and right sides, okay,

1504
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 7: But so okay, can't do that because Cooper Jean's there

1505
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 7: and Queyon Mitchell manning down the other side and locking

1506
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 7: things down so well. And then he's also hitting the

1507
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 7: tight end a lot. Theo Johnson. We predicted with Malik

1508
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 7: neighbors out he would kind of become a little bit

1509
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:27,919
Speaker 7: more of a security blanket, and he very much has been.

1510
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 7: And so, okay, where are you trying to hit Theo

1511
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 7: Johnson in Cooper dejean territory?

1512
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 9: Well, that sounds like a Zach Bond game too, Zach

1513
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 9: cover the tight end and yeah it's by so you know,

1514
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 9: and knowing how Vic loves his outside linebackers would be

1515
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 9: created with Zach Bond could be a factor in this game.

1516
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's listen to Brian Dable talking this week. I

1517
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 3: just love the way he ended this little clip a

1518
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 3: little bit of a stinky Davis.

1519
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 11: Yeah, you watch all the games and you watch him

1520
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 11: when he's out there, get open, big, strong, fast as

1521
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 11: good hands, can run any route you want to run.

1522
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 11: I'm sure they could throw the ball as many times

1523
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 11: they want, doesn't get it, or do some and AJ

1524
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 11: doesn't get there's one ball. They're all really good player Smitty.

1525
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 11: I mean, I've been around Smitty. I think he's an

1526
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 11: exceptional receiver too. So I think what I'm sure whatever

1527
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 11: they want to do or think they need to do, that's.

1528
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 1: What they'll do.

1529
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 11: You have to watch the tape as Open a Lot.

1530
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 3: Your reaction, Colleen, Oh, you know what, I actually like

1531
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 3: Dave all Moore for that though.

1532
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 2: That is insane.

1533
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 4: I love it.

1534
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 3: You've got problems.

1535
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 2: He's trying to sew a little.

1536
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 8: I like how like that's just like Petty a little bit.

1537
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 5: When your team isn't great, let's go to the dark

1538
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 5: arts of let's mess them up a little more.

1539
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 3: As Open a Lot, fantastic.

1540
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 9: I tell you what, I was too distracted because I

1541
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 9: know what it's the it's the cancer awareness month that

1542
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 9: he has on the giants. Think but I need three

1543
01:07:58,200 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 9: d glasses to watch that thing.

1544
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 3: Yes, another invitation to check out that the YouTube. Just so, Yeah, the.

1545
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 5: Briand nables absolutely and look, there will be open he will.

1546
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 7: Get open against there if they protect there for what

1547
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 7: you wish for, because the Giants secondary is completely outmatched

1548
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 7: and out manned by this group of receivers. They would

1549
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:21,680
Speaker 7: outmatch now man most secondaries in the league. Should they

1550
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 7: decide to throw the ball down the field.

1551
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 5: They got they got to protect, you know, again against

1552
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 5: obdil Carter who continues to be on fire and so

1553
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 5: to block up those But honestly they kind of did

1554
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:34,640
Speaker 5: it pretty well against the Broncos, who have maybe the

1555
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:36,680
Speaker 5: best for me in pass rush in the league. I

1556
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 5: don't think pass protection was the problem in that game.

1557
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 5: And so yeah, I think we could see some A J.

1558
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:45,480
Speaker 6: Brown down there metric by the way, the measures receivers

1559
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 6: or pass catchers who were open.

1560
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 5: Yes, but it's not reliable because of really, I mean

1561
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:53,799
Speaker 5: no offense next sense that people if there is separation

1562
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 5: score from ESPN, there's how open you are, But it

1563
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 5: really depends a lot on like what your role is

1564
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:01,919
Speaker 5: in the offense, where you are and schemes.

1565
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 3: So it's tough.

1566
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 8: We're not there yet.

1567
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 3: I don't think we're there yet.

1568
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 5: I am curious to see how you know our guy

1569
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 5: Jackson Dart looks in this game. There was there's a

1570
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 5: lot of hope balls, that's what I call him in

1571
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 5: the game in New Orleans where it was just like

1572
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 5: too much. I don't know what's gonna happen. So I'm

1573
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 5: just gonna hope and I'm just gonna throw it up there.

1574
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 9: And oh gee, Brandon Staley plays the same defense as

1575
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 9: who Vic Fangia.

1576
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 5: Because they they had to beat and that works maybe

1577
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 5: if you hear if you have t Higgins, and it's

1578
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 5: not going to work with these giants receivers like hope

1579
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 5: balls don't really work to these receivers.

1580
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:39,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, and then another I guess security blanket, although like

1581
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:42,719
Speaker 7: a very angry and violent one emerging for Jackson Darts

1582
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 7: Cam Skataboo. So someone said on social media that he

1583
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 7: runs like the Kool Aid man, like firsting through the door,

1584
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 7: which now I can't. That's perfect and see that, so

1585
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 7: he's playing. Both of these guys are are playing without

1586
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 7: regard for their own lives.

1587
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 2: Essentially, I love it.

1588
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 7: Jackson Dart and Camp scatabo, which is what the Giants

1589
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 7: I guess, you know, they need it right, and that's

1590
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 7: part of the game, of course. But Jackson Dart specifically

1591
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 7: has taken too many hits already and camp scataboo. I

1592
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 7: don't know how sustainable his particular style of play is.

1593
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 5: He's taken too many hits, which is weird to say

1594
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 5: about a running back.

1595
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 7: Extras like looking for his extra hits, which yeah.

1596
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 4: I don't expose your numbers, and he exposes his numbers.

1597
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So I just something to keep an eye

1598
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 2: on him in the past.

1599
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 3: Sevens a lot, But I do like a championship team

1600
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:32,560
Speaker 3: to respond.

1601
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 5: After we got Jalen on the island, Yeah, Jalen is one.

1602
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 5: I gotta stick up for us. Okay, that's Thursday Night Football.

1603
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,720
Speaker 5: Just quickly as we were taping, we had a very

1604
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 5: surprising trade come down. A da Feoa, the first round

1605
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,680
Speaker 5: pick of the Ravens four years ago, is going to

1606
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:53,839
Speaker 5: the Los Angeles Chargers. Steve, what was your first reaction

1607
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 5: when you saw it? Well, my first reaction is fascinating.

1608
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:58,800
Speaker 3: Aloe Gilman is going.

1609
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 9: But this as an addendum to it. Earlier in the day,

1610
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:05,599
Speaker 9: the Ravens signed CJ. Gardner Johnson, second safety who didn't

1611
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:08,640
Speaker 9: play last week for the Ravens Kyle Hamilton. This is

1612
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 9: telling me that maybe something's broom with Kyle Hamilton injury wise.

1613
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 9: If they go back and they get two better in safety,

1614
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:16,679
Speaker 9: is a younger one in an older one one's gonna

1615
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 9: add a little spice to the defense, you know, CJ.

1616
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 9: Gardner Johnson, who did not play well or fit in

1617
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 9: in Houston. Yeah, but you don't go to the Ravens

1618
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 9: kicking that noise.

1619
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 2: How many weeks is he there?

1620
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 9: No?

1621
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:29,799
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, and that Bill Gardner Johnson.

1622
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:30,799
Speaker 2: No, No, it's just funny.

1623
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 7: We were keeping tabs on it because it's like he

1624
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 7: goes to these different stops and it gets shorter and

1625
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 7: shorter every single right.

1626
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 3: He has been how old? I am sure?

1627
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:41,800
Speaker 5: When I saw that he signed for their practice I thought, Man,

1628
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 5: what have the last couple of weeks been like for CJ.

1629
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 5: Gardner Johnson And the fact that he's having to sign

1630
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 5: of the practice squad. I feel like he's going to

1631
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 5: have learned and he's a good player. Oh yeah, I'm

1632
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:53,680
Speaker 5: gonna say, all right, there weeks left, he'll be there

1633
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:55,599
Speaker 5: through this then I'm going to give him one more year,

1634
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 5: thirty weeks left.

1635
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 3: I think he gets a solid year.

1636
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:02,759
Speaker 8: And at any point and then it'll kind of expire.

1637
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 4: I mean he could.

1638
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 9: But look last year, when the Ravens defense took a turn,

1639
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 9: they adjusted their safeties right, they sat Mark Williams are

1640
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 9: brought in our Darius Washington who's hurt, pulled the Achilles

1641
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:15,679
Speaker 9: before the season, and their defense got better. They adjusted

1642
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 9: Cayle Hamilton. Maybe they think they can, you know, reset

1643
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:22,559
Speaker 9: in some way here. They've got bigger issues because when

1644
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 9: I watched the Ravens, to me, it's not schematics. I

1645
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 9: was watching them get blocked all up and down the

1646
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 9: field and guys not get off blocks. DB's in position

1647
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 9: to make plays and not making plays. So I think

1648
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 9: maybe adjust like this is always a good player.

1649
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 7: So Frotherly love too because it's the Harbaughs. And then

1650
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 7: that front office comes from out of the Ravens.

1651
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they both know that they're trading players

1652
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 5: they're not completely happy with, you know, always at the

1653
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 5: end of his contract, he's going to be a free

1654
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 5: agent this year. He had ten sacks a year ago.

1655
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 5: But even in that season, I think he's viewed as

1656
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 5: an inconsistent player. He can get washed out a little

1657
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 5: bit in terms of the running game and in general,

1658
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 5: Like I've been a very up and down throughout his career.

1659
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 5: He doesn't have any sec like, hasn't had a lot

1660
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 5: of pressure this year. And to give up a first

1661
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 5: round pick pass rusher at that's that's a pretty strong statement.

1662
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 4: That, like contract year two, it might be gap clearing stuff.

1663
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 4: Knowing the Ravens got clear and the Chargers early.

1664
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 2: When the earth they're going to move, they move, Yeah, and.

1665
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 5: The Chargers have like no pass rush right now? Whatsoever?

1666
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 5: They also got I.

1667
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 4: Mean it's Tully and who else you know.

1668
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 5: That's a fifth round pick in the deal. So Oway

1669
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 5: goes for a fifth for Gilman and a seventh, So

1670
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 5: it's a it's a trade back essentially, And that's saying

1671
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 5: that Away has more value in the trade, but just

1672
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 5: kind of fascinating.

1673
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 3: It almost feels like at first I was like, are

1674
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 3: the Ravens giving up on this season?

1675
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 9: But no, the Gilman jesse Mentor, I mean again, they

1676
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 9: were on the similar schemes so.

1677
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 4: Fit right in.

1678
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, and he needs jesse Mentor needs a player who

1679
01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 7: has the potential that Away has and in order to

1680
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:03,600
Speaker 7: maximize what this defense actually can be and rush the

1681
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 7: way he wants to rush, then his coverages can deploy

1682
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 7: the way he wants to deploy them. We haven't seen

1683
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 7: the same version of this Chargers defensive late.

1684
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 3: No things change fast in the NFL. If you had

1685
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 3: told me that you know the.

1686
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:18,639
Speaker 8: Ravens are, it's a wild how much a change.

1687
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:21,719
Speaker 5: One in four trading a pass rusher off the worst

1688
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 5: defense in the league.

1689
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 4: See I mean the Browns trading Joe flackot.

1690
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 2: He's got to get to Pittsburgh and then he will leave.

1691
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 5: Okay, So we did Quarterback Island a little later than

1692
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 5: probably we would have because because I was overseas. Thank

1693
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 5: you for your patients and that extra time I think

1694
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 5: helped to get Drake Mayon.

1695
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 4: So I'm happy.

1696
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:48,640
Speaker 5: Congratulations to everyone who made it to Quarterback Island. We

1697
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 5: will do another Quarterback Island episode in about four weeks.

1698
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 5: I cannot wait. One of my favorite days of the season.

1699
01:14:57,000 --> 01:15:01,560
Speaker 3: We will be back on Wednesday. We're back to the normal.

1700
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 5: Preview shows, double barreled action from the Chris Westling podcast studio.

1701
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 3: Maybe we'll have some funky trades.

1702
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 5: Tuesday's really good day for trades in the NFL Quarterback Island.

1703
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 5: It's always island time here in the Chris Westley Podcasting