1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:00,720 Speaker 1: Get junk. 2 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 2: Yeah the day time you get dunk yea day you are. 3 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:13,239 Speaker 3: Doing to day? 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: Hun, I'm a fat and all that shit around your eyes. 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 3: They want this man to the top to make the 6 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 3: judgment of who was going to be on the donkey 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 3: of the day. 8 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: They chose you. There's a braactice club. 9 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 2: Bitch you Who's donkey of the day today? Wow? 10 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: At sharing donkey of today for Wednesday? 11 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 4: Today's Wednesday, Thursday, Thursday, don't get to day for Thursday. 12 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 4: June first goes to Stephen Schwartz, an attorney with a 13 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 4: firm called Levendale, Levendale and Oberman right here in New 14 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 4: York City. Now, this story warms my heart because I 15 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 4: keep telling y'all, AI is the devil, and I don't 16 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 4: like AI for a lot of reasons, and I hate 17 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 4: how people say things like. 18 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: It's a necessary evil. 19 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 4: Evil should never be necessary, but the society we live 20 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 4: in is always willing to accept some evil, especially if 21 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 4: it puts money in people's pockets. With this story proving 22 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 4: one of my theories about AI correct, and that is 23 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 4: simply you can't trust it. And this attorney found out 24 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 4: the hard way when he used chat GPT to help 25 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 4: write a Manhattan Federal Court filing. Let's go to CBS 26 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 4: News for the report. 27 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 5: Please, even a lawyer with thirty years of experience can 28 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 5: learn something new about the law. For example, don't let 29 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 5: chat GPT do your legal research. Stephen Schwartz filed a 30 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 5: brief for a man who said he was injured by 31 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 5: a drinks cart on a flight operated by Avianca Airlines. 32 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 5: Schwartz's filing cited precedents like Martinez versus Delta Airlines. The 33 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 5: problem was that while Delta Airlines does exist, the case 34 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 5: does not. Swartz admitted he relied on chat GPT, which 35 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 5: made up half a dozen bogus cases. Now the lawsuit 36 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 5: he was working on has been tossed and he faces 37 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 5: potential sanctions. The risks of ai I go far beyond 38 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 5: poor legal work. Industry leaders, including executives of three leading 39 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 5: AI companies co signed a statement Tuesday warning the technology 40 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 5: could pose and existential threat to society. 41 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 4: Thirty years of experience, thirty years to build a reputation 42 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 4: in law, one day on chat GPT. 43 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: To ruin it. 44 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 4: Okay, Steven Schwartze, you obviously are one of those people 45 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 4: that cheated their way through law school. All right, You 46 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 4: don't just start doing things like this because of the technology. No, no, no, 47 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 4: You've been doing this since at least high school. Probably 48 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 4: copied from folks so much you even signed the person 49 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 4: you was cheating off of his name. 50 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: Okay. 51 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,119 Speaker 4: What kills me about this story is in the fact 52 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 4: that Steven used chat GTP. It's just that you didn't 53 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 4: do the number one thing we were all taught to 54 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 4: do in school and should apply in our everyday lives, 55 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 4: and that's check insight, our sources, check insight all work. 56 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 4: You have to proof read and read some more to 57 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 4: make sure you have everything in this paper correct. This 58 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 4: is why when people say things to me like AI 59 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 4: can never replace humans, You're gonna need a human to 60 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 4: make sure AI is doing what it's supposed to do. 61 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 4: Do you realize how lazy homo sapms are, Okay, and 62 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 4: how much technology has made us even lazier. 63 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: Okay. 64 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 4: This whole world we lived in, this whole world we 65 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 4: live in, is designed for us to do as little 66 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 4: as possible. We want everything instant nowadays. We want everything 67 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 4: right here, right now. This lawyer used chat GPT simply 68 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 4: because he didn't want to do the work. And guess 69 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 4: what just another example that in life there is no shortcuts. Okay, 70 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 4: It's simply not and we shouldn't want to give up 71 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 4: our critical thinking skills to chat GPT. Don't tell me 72 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 4: that chat GPT needs humans when humans are just willing 73 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 4: to relinquish all control to this artificial intelligence chatbot. Okay, 74 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 4: because that's what Steven Schwartz did, and he paid the price. 75 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 4: Imagine your lawyer is in court asking the court to 76 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 4: get your lawsuit toss. He's citing more than a half 77 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 4: a dozen relevant cases and none of those cases exist, 78 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 4: completely made up by chat GPT, Stephen Schwartz. Why would 79 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 4: you not check in double check chat GPT's work to 80 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 4: see if the cases they used were actual cases. I 81 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 4: didn't go to college, Okay, I don't know how much 82 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 4: studying y'all do in law school, but I feel like 83 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 4: you would have heard a lot of these cases before, 84 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 4: and some of them should just make you be a 85 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 4: little curious. For example, you heard the case titles Miller 86 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 4: versus United Airlines, Peterson versus Iran Air Heart versus Soul 87 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 4: Plane three six versus State Fly Air. Wouldn't you just 88 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 4: be a little bit curious about what some of those 89 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 4: things are. 90 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: Okay, I made those last two stories. But the moral 91 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: of the story is this. 92 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 4: This is why the robots will win because humans are 93 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 4: relinquishing all trust to them, and honestly, the way that 94 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 4: things are currently going, people won't even care if the 95 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 4: cases are real. Soon as long as they sound good. 96 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 4: I can easily see a judge not knowing any better. 97 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 4: A jury definitely wouldn't know no better. Why would they 98 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 4: they not lawyers? What if a judge or someone in 99 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 4: the jerry goes home and pulls these fake cases up, 100 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 4: reads them and applies them to the actual real case 101 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 4: that they will be trying. All right, They're gonna start 102 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 4: trying real cases based off president that's. 103 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: Not even real. Okay. I've told you all a million times. 104 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,799 Speaker 4: The lines of what's real and what's fake are already blurred. 105 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 4: AI obliterate those lines completely. Now. I would play a 106 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 4: game with guess what race it is? But it's obvious 107 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 4: Stevenswartz isn't black, right, because even though black people may 108 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 4: believe anything, we question everything. Okay, what's the first thing 109 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 4: we say when somebody tells us a story that seems. 110 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: A little fishy? This don't sound right? 111 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 4: Okay, see this new generation, you'll operate a little different 112 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 4: because y'all believe everything on social media. But when you're 113 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 4: born in the nineteen hundreds, you are skeptical about everything. 114 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 4: I encourage you all to read the Fifth Agreement by 115 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 4: Don Miguel Ruise. Yes, I'm sure you've read the four agreements, 116 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 4: but there's a fifth agreement, and the fifth agreement is 117 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 4: be skeptical, but learn to listen. Okay, be skeptical because 118 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 4: most of what you hear isn't true. You know that 119 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 4: humans speak with symbols, and that symbols are only the 120 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 4: truth because we agree, not because they are really the truth. 121 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 4: But the second half of the agreement is learn to listen. 122 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 4: And the reason is simple. When you learn to listen, 123 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 4: you understand the meaning of the symbols that people are using. 124 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 4: You understand their story, and the communication improves a lot. 125 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 4: That's going to be such a foreign concept. If y'all 126 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 4: just relinquish all control and power to chat GPT America, 127 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,119 Speaker 4: you better learn to be a skeptical about everything. 128 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: As black people. Okay, our question everything. Learn to say 129 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: this don't sound right? 130 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 4: All right, Black people from the nineteen hundreds, we say 131 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 4: things don't sound right when it's no sound involved. You 132 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 4: better get like us because the life and career you 133 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 4: save may be your own. Please let Remy mag give 134 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 4: Steven Schwartz the biggest he hull. 135 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: Hee ha he ha, you stupid motherfuck? Are you dumb? 136 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 2: All right? 137 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 3: Well, thank you for that donkey today, Yes, indeed, and 138 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 3: shout to b E T. We'll see you guys tomorrow. 139 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 4: That don't sound right, Well you sure we're gonna be 140 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,239 Speaker 4: here tomorrow on BT to Mar's Friday. 141 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 2: What's wrong? 142 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: Just making sure be skeptical but learn to listen. 143 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 2: Oh shut up, BT, we'll see out tom all piece. 144 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 3: Everybody else that's open up the phone lines eight hundred 145 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 3: five eighty five, one oh five to one. 146 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 2: What do you think of a. 147 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 4: I not alan ivison, niggas intelligence artificial intelligence? 148 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 3: Right, because if you think about it, if you're attorney, 149 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: you're thinking, you know, I could save a little money 150 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 3: instead of having you know, interns and employees. I type 151 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 3: it in chat GT Jack whatever it's called, and it 152 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 3: pulls up all the other cases. Now he should have 153 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 3: googled to see if those cases were there. But it 154 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: seems like you know something a little easy that that 155 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 3: can help you and. 156 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 4: Now thirty years of experience down the dream, your reputation 157 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 4: down the dream because you decided to go on chat 158 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 4: GPT one time, all people questioning everything about you. 159 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: Now. 160 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 3: Also, AI is saying, you know, in some vehicles, if 161 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 3: they have AI and vehicles, you know, sometimes people fall asleep. 162 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 3: They have all these different minduct now right, but that's 163 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 3: AIL driving cars, right, But it's not too many cars. 164 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 3: I know Tesla has one. They're starting to have it 165 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 3: in eighteen wheelers. Now escalades escalades having but not to 166 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 3: an extent. You have to touch the steering wheel at 167 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 3: a certain time. You just can't sit back. 168 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't have one of those. I 169 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: can't afford that type of stuff. 170 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 3: Okay, whatever, But we're asking what's your thought on AI 171 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 3: because it could be dangerous. 172 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 2: Just imagine just I don't even put that out there. 173 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 2: Let me think of another thing. Just think about you 174 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: get into a beef. 175 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: No, no, think about you getting the beef you donte 176 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: get and all the beef I throw the point at me. 177 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: Think about you get to because I think about you 178 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: getting the beat. 179 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: Because somebody can use somebody because pride to. 180 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: By the way, don't be talking about beef unless you 181 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: want to do something. 182 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 2: Perfect. 183 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 3: Example, let's say that somebody wants to say Charlemagne is gay, right, 184 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 3: what you can little gay gang. But now somebody can 185 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 3: use Charlomagne's voice and make a fake conversation with Charlomagne's 186 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 3: Well know that it's somebody else, and people will believe it. 187 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: I've hard for you not to say it wasn't true. 188 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: Let's go even deeper. 189 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 4: Imagine you hear your best friend and your wife a 190 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 4: conversation between them two talking about getting it in and 191 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 4: all kinds of stuff, and the conversation not even real, right, 192 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 4: and then and and you're about to go see both 193 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 4: of them in the next five minutes. You might be 194 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 4: driving on the way that you'll about to meet somewhere, 195 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 4: and y'all meet, and you just heard. 196 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 2: This call and you do something stupid and you realize that. 197 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: It was what I was trying to say. 198 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: Man, So what's your thoughts on AI? Let's talk about it. 199 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 3: Eight hundred and five eight five one oh five to one. 200 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 3: Let's discuss It's the breakfast Club. 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