1 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to the OTP, presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans. 2 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: Farm Bureau Health Plans where you are the plan Farm 3 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: Bureau Health Plans makes it easy to get the health 4 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: coverage you need for less than you think. See how 5 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: at FBHP dot com with Titans Radios, Ret Brian and 6 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: Dave McGinnis. I'm Mike Keith. We are glad to have 7 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: you with us from the bet MGM studio and what 8 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: I think is a very special edition of the OTP. 9 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: Well, the OTP is for the ot people, that's right, 10 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 2: and this is a prime example of it. 11 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 1: It is a prime example. We ask you to visit 12 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: if you're a person who visited my Instagram account, which 13 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: is at ten Voice at t E N N Voice, 14 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: we ask you to submit your questions for Coach Mac 15 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: because every body always wants to know what does Coach 16 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: Mac think about this? What does he think about that? 17 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: I couldn't get through on Mac Talk and so here 18 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: on this edition of the OTP, we have placed Coach 19 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: Mac squarely in the Snickers hot seat and Rhett and 20 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: I will be feeding him your question. So here we go. 21 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to go first. After being at both the 22 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: college and NFL levels of coaching. What do you think 23 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: is the biggest difference from a coach's perspective. 24 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 3: The level of preparation. You know, in college you're limited 25 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 3: with a number of hours you can have. The National 26 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 3: Football League it's twenty five to seven. Just the college 27 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 3: of just just just the level of not only preparation, 28 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 3: but the level of intensity that you have with your 29 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 3: players preparing because this is their livelihood, this is everything. 30 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 3: And so all professional players want is what can you 31 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 3: do to help my game? And they don't. They don't 32 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 3: want they don't want a lot of verbiage. All they 33 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 3: what can you specifically do to help me every week 34 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 3: in my career so that I can prolong it. But 35 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 3: just the intensity of the preparation is a huge difference. 36 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: When you were asked to come on Titans Radio with 37 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 2: Mike Keith, who was someone you studied on in broadcasting, 38 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: to prepare you for the role as color analysts, you know. 39 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 3: That's a that to me is a great question because really, 40 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 3: before Mike called me, I never really thought about doing this, 41 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 3: and he didn't give me much time. We didn't have 42 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 3: much time because because I understand now the circumstances, but 43 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 3: I was. I was called on a Monday, and as 44 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 3: we were talking through it, I said, well, when do 45 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 3: you need me there? And he said, well, we're going 46 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 3: to New York Saturday. And I went this Saturday, and 47 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 3: so so I really didn't have a whole lot of time, 48 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 3: you know, to to do that. Since then, since then, 49 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 3: I pay a lot of attention, you know, to the 50 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 3: broadcasting and and and what's and what's going on. And 51 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 3: I know that he's not a play by play guy, 52 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 3: but I've always always been a huge, huge Jim Dance 53 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 3: fan just by the fact of just how professional he 54 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 3: handles what goes on. 55 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 1: And so. 56 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 2: We're talking about a gold standard broadcaster. 57 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 3: Well, but I mean I think that's what Titans Radio is, 58 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 3: is a gold standard. And so anyway, there you go. 59 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: What is the best name of a play call that 60 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: you've ever heard? 61 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 3: Now, I'm in a defensive coach until I was a 62 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 3: head coach, and then I was an assistant head coach, 63 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 3: so I was in charge of all of it, but defensively, 64 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 3: when you have to call out the formations as far 65 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 3: as they line up in King's trip speed flip left, 66 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 3: X y Z E O yo motion, whie flaire. 67 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: So what is that defense. 68 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 3: King's trip speed is eleven personnel. Okay, because in the 69 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 3: National Football League some people numbers you know, ten, eleven, twelve, twenty, 70 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 3: and some people use deck of cards ace King's queens, 71 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 3: you know, flush jacks. So King's is eleven personnel. Trip's 72 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 3: speed means all three receivers on the one side of 73 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 3: the formation. The tight end is X. He's on the 74 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 3: wide side of the formation. On the trip speed side, 75 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 3: You've got you've got, you've got, you've got z W 76 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 3: and y yo yo motion. Okay, King's trip speed, you've 77 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 3: got yo yo motion. That means the inside receiver from 78 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 3: the speed side starts to the center and then yo 79 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 3: yo's back to get into what we call a nine 80 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 3: ball stack on the three receiver side. That's what that is. 81 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: Okay, yep, your question right, Yeah, Wow, Do do you remember 82 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: all that? That's an excellent fun the. 83 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 3: Same way you remember everything you remember. I mean, you've 84 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 3: got I've done it for a long time, a long time. 85 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 3: It's been my life, and so you know I that's 86 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 3: how I've been doing it a long time, same way 87 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 3: you and you've got it. When I first went to 88 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 3: the Bears, they didn't ask this question. But it was 89 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 3: before we had computers, and so you know, I was 90 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 3: the linebacker coach, but I was also the defensive quality 91 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 3: control coach. And so the the playbook that we put 92 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 3: together to incorporate Buddy Ryan's forty six and then Vince 93 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 3: Tobin's defenses, you had to draw it all by hand. 94 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 3: You had to draw it all by hand, and then 95 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 3: you wrote it out, and then you gave it to 96 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 3: the secretary and she typed it, you know, on that 97 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 3: on that paper that made that made copies, and then 98 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 3: you rent it off, you know, on the machine. So 99 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 3: I wrote that whole thing. I wrote the whole thing. 100 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 3: And so when you do that, you learn it. 101 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: It becomes that say say that again one more time. 102 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 3: King's trip speed flip left x y. Why why yo 103 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 3: yo motion? 104 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: Isn't that a great example as you repeat that of 105 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 1: why young players, rookies have such a hard time coming 106 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: to the NFL where they don't have play calls, especially 107 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: the offensive players. They don't have play calls. They never 108 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: deal with it. They just see cards on the sidelines 109 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: and that tells them what to do. 110 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 3: That's a perfect example why it really is. 111 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: That's got to be brutal. 112 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 3: It really is. And that is that's a defensive version 113 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 3: of that, you know, being able to talk about like 114 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 3: on the headset, what are they doing? Mike, I got 115 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 3: King's trip speed flip left. You know X, Y and 116 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 3: Y you know yo yo. Before we had all of 117 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 3: these tablets and things, the West Coast offense is even 118 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 3: more intricate than that coming from the offensive side of it. 119 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: Wow, mind blown, Mind blown. 120 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 2: All right, this one, This is an excellent conversation at 121 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 2: OTP to begin with. This is gonna raise it a notch. 122 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 2: Do you think NFL officiating is getting worse better or 123 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 2: is it staying the same. Because I listened to you 124 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 2: and Mike during Titans games and I always agree with 125 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 2: your assessments on what's happening on the field. 126 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 3: It's not as good as it used to be. It's 127 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 3: not as good as it used to be from top 128 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 3: to bottom. I think, you know, a lot of the 129 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 3: best officials right now are in the television booth, and 130 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 3: you've had some really really veteran officials retire, and so 131 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 3: people coming in it's just like rookie players coming in. 132 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 3: They have to learn the game. They have to learn 133 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 3: the game, and they only. You can't manufacture experience in 134 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 3: any profession, but especially in this business because everything is 135 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 3: so immediate, and that's why you see so many And 136 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 3: when I'm sitting up there with Mike Keith and I 137 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 3: mean he's always spot on with I mean, he can 138 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 3: call out and tell you what the penalty is and 139 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 3: how much they should market off and where the ball 140 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 3: should be immediately, because those are the details you have. 141 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 3: And we've seen games as to when you know they've 142 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 3: marked off twelve yard penalties and there's not twelve yard 143 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 3: penalties on a ten yard penalty play you know from 144 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 3: so just the administration of it, it's not as good 145 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 3: as it's it's really not. 146 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: Hey, Titans fans, it's always game on with Duncan, So 147 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: grab a coffee and kick off the action. Whether that's 148 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: drinking a cup of coffee on your way to the game, 149 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: we're grabbing one to go before watching the game at home. 150 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: Duncan is always there to help you get your game on. 151 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: Just like the pros. We need to be at our 152 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: best come game time, which is why Duncan is the 153 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: most important part of your game day ritual because it's 154 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: always the best call for football America runs on Duncan 155 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: your questions for coach Mac. You submitted them to me 156 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: at ten Voice my Instagram account, and we're passing them on. 157 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: Titan's immediate football question comes next as well as Taj 158 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: Spears is playing right now? What ways can Tim Kelly 159 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: keep he and Derrick Henry involved without limiting snaps or 160 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: telegraphing plays. 161 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 3: Pony personnel is what we've seen both in the backfield 162 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 3: at the same time and what we call a red set. 163 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 3: You've already seen that. We saw it a lot, you know, 164 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 3: during the practices we get to go to before the 165 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 3: season started that we can't talk about, but we saw 166 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 3: him doing that a lot and there, and he's using 167 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 3: it in a red set, which is a split back set, 168 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 3: and and he's he's alternated whether he sets Uh Derek 169 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 3: to the tight side of the formation or to the 170 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 3: open side of the formation. And you're gonna you're gonna 171 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 3: see a lot of different plays come off of this 172 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 3: because it opens up a multitude of things you can 173 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 3: do bringing him across the backfield, double screens, there's a 174 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 3: lot of things that he can do. I mean that 175 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 3: just a myriad of it. And plus with the threat 176 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 3: of both of them being able to run, and they're 177 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 3: distinctly different runners, but they're both very effective with what 178 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 3: they do. The Pony personnel I think will start seeing 179 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 3: more and more of. 180 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 2: After the first two games of the season. What is 181 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 2: your opinion on Tim Kelly as the offensive coordinator. 182 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 3: I think he does a nice job of layering calls 183 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 3: and layering calls. As a defensive coach, you always when 184 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 3: you when you're you're scouting the guy that's called in plays, 185 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 3: that's your opponent. You want to see first of all, 186 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 3: if he's layers calls, which means is he building calls 187 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 3: one upon the other with his personnel groups depending on 188 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 3: what you've deployed over there on defense? And then is 189 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 3: he stacking calls? And then the other part is is 190 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 3: he setting up calls because the really good play callers 191 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 3: set calls up. In other words, they'll set calls up 192 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 3: series by series, set calls up by you know, put 193 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 3: put a certain personnel group out there in a certain formation, 194 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 3: see how the defense on a down and distance is 195 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 3: going to adjust to it, and then come back to 196 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 3: something that can counter the way he now sees the 197 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 3: defense setting up to that. I think he does. 198 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: All of that, all right, So I've got two sort 199 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: of back to back here that tie in. If it's okay, 200 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: coach Mack and the Snickers hot seat. Here it comes 201 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: coach Mack, who is the one current player in the 202 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: NFL you wish you could coach that. 203 00:10:55,840 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 3: I like that, I like like, I like that question 204 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 3: a lot that can either be offensively. 205 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, does not say defense, or it could be anybody. 206 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 3: Well, I'd love to have Miles Garrett. 207 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: I thought you were going to say. 208 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 3: That if I'm calling defense? 209 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: Why why is he so different than like other edge rusher. 210 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 3: He's a big man. He's a big man that plays 211 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 3: like a little man. He can, he's speed to power, 212 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 3: he's athletic out through the roof. But he's also a 213 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 3: gunbay bend the edge guy. You can line him up 214 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 3: in multiple places. He can stand up in two point, 215 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 3: he can go down in three point, he can he 216 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 3: can do it all. He's the number one pick in 217 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 3: the draft for a reason, the number one. Some number 218 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 3: one picks in the drafts have not been legitimate players. 219 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 3: This guy is a physical phenom and he's a good, 220 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 3: good football player that you can do so much with. 221 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 3: And he's a smart. 222 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: Guy two hundred and seventy five pounds plays like a 223 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: guy two thirty five or two forty in terms of 224 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: his movement. 225 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 3: You got it? I mean right there. And plus I 226 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 3: mean he's a he's a relentless player. He is relentless. 227 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 3: He was that he was that way at Texas A 228 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 3: and m I mean he's a special, special player. 229 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: All right. So this may be the same answer. If 230 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: you could add one NFL defensive player to the Titans 231 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: roster this year, who would you add? And why? 232 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 3: Well, how about that dude? 233 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 1: Well that's what I figured you say. So let's take 234 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett out. Who else would be a guy that 235 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: you would add? If you could add one defensive player 236 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: to the Titans roster this year? Who would you add? 237 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: And why? 238 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 3: I would really I would really like to be able 239 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 3: to I would really like to be able to add 240 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 3: a shutdown corner. Okay, just a true uh true. Now 241 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 3: that that can be a varied opinion on who that 242 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 3: dude is, but to me, one of the best pure 243 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 3: shutdown corners in this league. Still now we're saying that 244 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 3: he's completely healthy. Is a jailing Rams? 245 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: Kaylen Rams? 246 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? And some guy can just because with. I had 247 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 3: one of those guys in my long coaching career in 248 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 3: Anias Williams, and I could do anything I wanted with him. 249 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 3: And we were in the NFC East at the time, 250 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 3: and I could I knew going in game planning against 251 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 3: the Cowboys twice a year that I could tell him 252 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 3: in that first meeting, Nicky, you've got Michael Irving and 253 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 3: the rest of the ten of you, here's what we're 254 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 3: going to do to try to stop the rest of them. 255 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 3: You know, EMMITTT. Smith and all that group. But when 256 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 3: you have that guy, it's a special feeling as a 257 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 3: defensive coordinator when you're able to do that. All those 258 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 3: teams that Dion Sanders played for, that was the guy 259 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 3: and it makes a big difference. 260 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: All Right, this was going to take a minute to 261 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 2: lay out here in your answer, but this person's asking 262 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 2: explain fourth quarter roles of a head coach, including challenges, coaching, 263 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 2: play calling, clock management, and any other duties. 264 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, all of that when you when 265 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 3: you're in a assistant coach, you very rarely think of 266 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 3: any of that, you know, because you're you're dialed in, 267 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 3: you're dealing in with your people. If you're coordinator. You 268 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 3: know you're working your side of the ball. As when 269 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 3: I became a head coach and you you're in, you're 270 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 3: thrown into a different world of the game. The world 271 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 3: managing a game is much different than coaching a position 272 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 3: during during a game, and so you have to be 273 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 3: aware of everything. And the other thing. The thing that 274 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 3: happens to though, guys, is it's really really important to 275 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 3: have somebody you really trust in the box. You've got 276 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 3: to have somebody you really trust. You've got to make 277 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 3: the call. But if you've got somebody in the box 278 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 3: you can trust that can give you information when you 279 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 3: ask for it in an instant, in an instant, and 280 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 3: especially with the challenges and those types of things that 281 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 3: make a huge difference uh managing time outs or being 282 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 3: able to to play the clock game. I was very 283 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 3: fortunate in my career to start out Mike Ditka was 284 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 3: really good at this stuff, and I come here and 285 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 3: work for Jeff Fisher. Jeff Fisher was really good at 286 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 3: this stuff, and so you know when I became a 287 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 3: head coach that I would pick the brains of those 288 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 3: guys as to how it was. Dan Reeves was really good, 289 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 3: so I would sit with those guys, you know, when 290 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 3: I would have opportunities to just what we're doing right 291 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 3: now and talk about those instances. But they come up, 292 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 3: and they happen so fast that you've got to go 293 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 3: into it. You can prepare all you want, but you 294 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 3: have to be able to react in the moment. But 295 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 3: you have to have a real working knowledge of the 296 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 3: rules because the rules make a difference. Mike Rabel's got 297 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 3: a great handle on this. He understands the game within 298 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 3: the game, but as a head coach much different than 299 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 3: being a coordinator because now you're playing the big picture 300 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 3: throughout all of it. As to where coordinators are playing 301 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 3: their side of it. 302 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: Coach Mackett doesn't come up often, but I think the 303 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: rule about fumbling the ball through the end zone is 304 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: maybe the worst rule in all of sports. Would you 305 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: be in favor of changing this rule? And do you 306 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: think it would pass if it was presented to the 307 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: competition committee. 308 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 3: It's been presented for years and it's never has passed. 309 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 3: And the reasoning is is the end zone is it 310 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 3: is an entity unto itself, is an entity unto itself, 311 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 3: and so things are different down there, and there there 312 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 3: is a premium on holding on to the football until 313 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 3: you cross the goal line. And that's always been I mean, 314 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 3: I've been in you know, I've been in meetings, uh 315 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 3: you know where it was, competition committees, I've been I've 316 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 3: been through all of this. It this is not the 317 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 3: first time that's come up, But that is the is 318 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 3: the argument that the the goal line is is the 319 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 3: is the final outcome of what offenses are trying to do. 320 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 3: And part of the goal line is getting the ball 321 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 3: over the goal line. Get the ball over the goal line. 322 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 3: And if you tried and you failed to do that, 323 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 3: then there there should be some sort of retribution rather 324 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 3: than just saying the ball's out of bounds. If you 325 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 3: fumble it through the end zone and you don't and 326 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 3: you know, and and it has it crossed the goal 327 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 3: line and you're not in possession, not in possession of it, 328 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 3: then it comes back out to the twenty. I don't 329 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 3: think they'll ever change it. 330 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: I think it makes total sense because, I mean, what's 331 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: the object of the game is to score more points 332 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: than the other team. You score points in various ways, 333 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: but the most obvious way is to score a touchdown, 334 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: which is to be in possession of the ball when 335 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: you break the plane. And if you're not in possession 336 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: of the ball when you break the plane, then it's it. 337 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: There has to be a punishment for that if you 338 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: get there and you you fumble. I think, you know, 339 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: talking to Rabel, he certainly doesn't ever think it'll pass 340 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: competition committee while he's on there. 341 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 3: No, and it sounds like you've been in the competition committee, 342 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 3: you know who you sounded like just then. And this 343 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 3: is a real compliment, okay, Mike Pereira. Oh well, thank 344 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 3: you Mike Periri. 345 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: By the way, can we shout him out and hope 346 00:17:58,080 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: he feels better? 347 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 3: He's what a good good dude, what a great person. 348 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 3: And you talk about the officiating that we talked about earlier, Yeah, when. 349 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: He was in charge, perfection well and the other I 350 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: tell you what Perreira brought to it. He brought a 351 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: transparency and a clarity to it. When he was doing 352 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 1: it for the league, it was and some of the 353 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: other guys, Dean Blandino did a good job, but Pereira 354 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: was the gold standard because suddenly, I mean they were 355 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: a little bit like the Wizard of Oz ignored the 356 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: man behind the curtain, sort of we don't ever question it. 357 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 1: And Perira took that down. He said, wow, we didn't 358 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: get this one right, or we did get this one right, 359 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 1: or here's why we're doing this, And a lot of 360 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: times when they explain things like we've just had the 361 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: discussion about fumbling the ball of the end zone, when 362 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: you stop and think about it in that way, it 363 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: makes more sense. A lot of the talking heads on 364 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: TV and in media just saying, oh, that's awful, Well, 365 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: they don't stop and think about why the rules of 366 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: the game were put into effect, and the game that 367 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: way still hasn't changed. We we don't win games on 368 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 1: stats in Fantasy on Sundays. We win games by who 369 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: scores the most points. And the end zone is sacred. 370 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 3: That and that and see, and that's why I say, 371 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,479 Speaker 3: and I was very honest when I said that, that's 372 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 3: the way Peyra would explain it. I've been in competition 373 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 3: committee meetings and meetings with just head coaches, and you 374 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 3: know when you when you go to the owners meetings, 375 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 3: and when he would stand up and explain things, he 376 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 3: did just what you did, and and everybody would go Okay. 377 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 3: I mean, one of the greatest things I ever saw 378 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 3: was when was was after the tuck Rule game when 379 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 3: you know, uh, the Raiders, I mean there's microphones. The 380 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 3: Raiders stood up and called him out, brought a football 381 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 3: and said explain this to us, right and he did, 382 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 3: and he did, and he did just like that. So 383 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 3: shout out to Mike Pereira and for you for sounding 384 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 3: like him on that. 385 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: Well, thank you. I'll take that as a compl It. 386 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 3: Is a compliment. 387 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 2: If the team wins and Andre Dillard appears to struggle, 388 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 2: is Nicholas p. T Frere and option a left tackle 389 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 2: since Chris Hubbard seems to be doing an adequate job 390 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 2: on the right side. 391 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 3: Well, Nicholas P. T Frere has got to get back 392 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 3: into the swing of things first. I mean that, you know, 393 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 3: you can't expect somebody to come off of a six 394 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 3: week suspension without having done football things. I'm sure he's 395 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 3: working out on his own because he cannot be in 396 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,959 Speaker 3: the building, but you know, to come back in, I mean, 397 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 3: he's gonna have to work himself back in first. And 398 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 3: so that to me is something that is pretty far 399 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:36,479 Speaker 3: in the future right now. And we've seen this a 400 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 3: little bit though, just with what Dylan Raven's has done, 401 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 3: you know, and so if you're on the team you're 402 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 3: an offensive lineman. The biggest value is if you can 403 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 3: play multiple positions and so. But as I said, the 404 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 3: first thing the NPF has got to do is get 405 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 3: back in the swing of playing NFL football. 406 00:20:55,440 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: What is your favorite defensive and offensive pack kids to run? 407 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 3: Well, this is it's all predicated on down in distance, 408 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 3: down in distance because of the matchups. Matchups on down 409 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 3: and distance are you know, are everything. But as a 410 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 3: defensive coach, early on, when it first came into existence, 411 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 3: the hardest personnel group to defend on first and second 412 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 3: down it was thirteen personnel, which is because you would 413 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 3: you would have you would have one running back, three 414 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 3: tight ends, and one wide receiver. But those those tight 415 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 3: ends could split out and make it look like eleven personnel. 416 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 3: With three wides one back, you can make it look 417 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 3: like twelve you know, two tights, two wides and your 418 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 3: matchups is what you're working on. So, now is the 419 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 3: defensive coach, you're thinking, do I play base defense against 420 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 3: this with four down and three linebackers? Do I play nickel? 421 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 3: Do I do I put an extra defensive back in there? 422 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 3: Do I go to an extra backer package to be 423 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 3: able to take to take care of the size they 424 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 3: have in there now or if they split them out, 425 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 3: or my backers able to work in space. So thirteen 426 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 3: personnel was always a big problem when it when it first, 427 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 3: when it first, you know, came into the league, you know, 428 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 3: for that defensively. Defensively, I always liked to be able 429 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 3: to play the big nickel because with the big nickel, 430 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 3: you know, you had a chance with the four man 431 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 3: front to use that the big nickel guy in a 432 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 3: lot of different ways. You could, you know, you could 433 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 3: rob the middle with him. You could play him as 434 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 3: a linebacker. You could match him on a tight end, 435 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 3: say a specific tight end that was a really good receiver, 436 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 3: but he could hold up in the run game. I 437 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 3: always liked the big nickel because that one piece, you know, 438 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 3: it's like it's like what Nick Saban does and all 439 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 3: the all the defenses in the South Southeastern Conference play 440 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 3: this star you know thing, because it gives you the 441 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 3: multiplicity without having to change personnel groups all the time 442 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 3: on defense. 443 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 2: This is my final question. I have what pub will 444 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 2: coach mac be hanging out in London so I could 445 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 2: buy him a pint and he can educate me on 446 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 2: how Jack Gibbons has gone from a player who was 447 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 2: waived last year to a starter this year and is 448 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 2: really making an impact. He appears to have a nose 449 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 2: for the football. 450 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: Go frogs. 451 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 3: I love the question and I love the ending of that. 452 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 3: I'll be in that pub where we had the radio 453 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 3: show when we were over there the last time. Bed 454 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 3: Bath and Beyond was that the name of it? 455 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 2: I don't think the barrel Boy and Banker and there 456 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 2: it is? 457 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: Is that where you're going. Well, so a lot of 458 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: the things the Titans are going to do in London 459 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: are going to be announced next week, So where we 460 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: might be or where everybody's gathering or whatever may happen. 461 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: I think some of those things will be announced next 462 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: week and they might ask you to go to one 463 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: of those spots. 464 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 3: I go to all of them. 465 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: Okay, I will go to you. You're not gonna go 466 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: to bed Bath and Beyond. 467 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 3: But that was so much fun last time. 468 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it was just it was tremendous. 469 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 3: It was incredible. In fact, I spent a good time, 470 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 3: a good bit of time with some of your family 471 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 3: upstairs at that one. It was tremendous. 472 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: Yes, my family's going again. 473 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 3: And I'll be with them. It was, it was tremendous. 474 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 3: So yeah, as soon as they get those locations, let 475 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 3: me know, all right, I'll be there. 476 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: Seat Geek is now the official ticketing partner of the 477 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. That's right, the deal is finalized in Seat 478 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: Geek is the newest member of the Titans family. If 479 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: you haven't heard the name yet, you haven't been listening 480 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: to the OTP. So what's your problem if you that's 481 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: not in there? I'm sorry, I shouldn't have said that. 482 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: Not very nice if you have, Seriously, what's your problem. 483 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: If you haven't heard the name yet, get used to 484 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: it because you'll be hearing it a lot more this season. 485 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: Whether you're buying or selling ticket, Seat Geek probably appreciates that. Right. 486 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: Whether you're buying or selling tickets to the Titans game, 487 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: where any live event in Nashville, Seat Geek is the 488 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: place to do it. Seat Geek the new official ticketing 489 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: partner of the Tennessee Titans. So Titan fans can fan 490 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: nicely done, Rhett. The questions for coach Mack continue. I'm 491 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: gonna let Rhett take it home right here, you do 492 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 1: the rest of them. I'm just gonna rely all right, 493 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: We're going to take it home here. 494 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 2: Where would you rank the Titans defense throughout the entire 495 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 2: NFL when they are fully healthy? 496 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, rankings, rankings are kind of like fantasy football. I mean, 497 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 3: it's all up for it's all up for grabs, it's 498 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 3: all about it's all about production. I would say, just 499 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 3: off of production. Off of production. They're really stout against 500 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 3: the run, and I think by their own admission, they'd 501 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 3: like to tighten it up in the back end some. 502 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 2: You know Jim Schwartz very well. What does he bring 503 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 2: to the Cleveland defense that makes them one of the 504 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 2: league's best. Also, the Browns have played a lot of 505 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 2: man coverage in their first two games. What are some 506 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 2: of the concepts that Tim Kelly can run to set 507 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:56,719 Speaker 2: the offense up for success. 508 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, game planed with Swartze for five seasons. Here is 509 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 3: an assistant and head coach and linebacker coach, and so 510 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 3: he's very intricate in what he does. He studies matchups 511 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 3: a lot, he's he's but he leans on a base 512 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 3: of a four down of a four down scheme, and 513 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 3: he does that so that he can cover with seven. 514 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 3: You talk about getting creative with your coverages. Anytime you 515 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 3: can cover with seven over five eligible receivers, you've you've 516 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 3: either got three over two and four over three. I mean, 517 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 3: that's that's what defensive coaches work for. But to get that, 518 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 3: you have to be able to take care of the 519 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 3: run and the pass with four people up front and 520 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 3: not having to bring anybody down. The times where he 521 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 3: will get really creative is if he catch if he 522 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 3: gets you in third and seven plus, third and eight plus, well, 523 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 3: we always had special blitzes on third down. You know 524 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 3: that we that the opponent had not seen before to 525 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 3: be able to attack coverages. But his his preparation is 526 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 3: very very detailed oriented and he he covers everything as 527 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 3: a coordinator. And this this is for the ot people 528 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 3: will take you behind the scenes a little when when 529 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 3: you when you're working on an opponent, the scout team 530 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 3: is running cards. But you have to draw cards so 531 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 3: that you can show them in the huddle as to 532 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 3: what what the offense wants to look like. But those 533 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,959 Speaker 3: cards have to be really preciser. Guys are looking at them, 534 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 3: you know, and you're trying to run practice on time. 535 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 3: And you know you got I mean, I've seen Jeff 536 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 3: Fisher look at you look at cards before and throw 537 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 3: them out. 538 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: Who drew that? 539 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 3: Who drew that? You know, because the guys can't read it. 540 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 3: Jim Schwartz as a coordinator. Normally the coordinators don't do this. 541 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 3: He drew every card. He drew every card. And I 542 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 3: used to pride myself on being a good card drawer 543 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 3: because it takes You've got to be detailed, and it 544 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 3: takes time. And he told me. He told me this 545 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 3: when I when I first came here to work for him. 546 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 3: I said, hey, look because I came in here as 547 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 3: a head coach. And then I said, look, I understand, 548 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 3: you know, tell me which cards you want me to 549 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 3: draw the run you know, the run game Run series 550 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 3: coach Mac, I draw the cards. He says, you may 551 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 3: be able to draw cards, but minor rim brands, and 552 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 3: I went. 553 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: Really, he doesn't lack for confidence. 554 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 3: And I went, I went, really, I went, really, but 555 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 3: listen to this. The first time I saw him, I went, 556 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 3: I looked like a street painter. 557 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: To this. I think it was it so. 558 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 2: Anyway, very detailed, fascinating. So his cards should be in 559 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 2: the loover in France rem Brand. Okay, finally, coach Mac, 560 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 2: what do you believe for the keys to going on 561 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 2: the road in Cleveland to come out with a win. 562 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 3: You've got to control their front first, you cannot let 563 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 3: their defensive front control the game. And then our defense 564 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 3: needs to outplay their defense. I mean, this is this 565 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 3: is what this is, this is what you're looking at. Offensively, 566 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 3: you've got to stay out of the third and chains. 567 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 3: And when I say third and chains, I'm talking about 568 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 3: third and seven plus you've got to stay You've got 569 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 3: to stay out of that. And then defensively, something I 570 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 3: think that they would want to do that I that 571 00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 3: I see get some turnovers. Turn the ball over and 572 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 3: keep it when we've got it, keep it. But defensively, 573 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 3: get some turnovers. This is going to be a big, 574 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 3: big game for defenses trying to see who's who in 575 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 3: the zoo out there, and so this is going to 576 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 3: be really important to control their front and then to 577 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 3: let our front go eat. 578 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: Cleveland has not allowed anyone in the red zone so 579 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: far this year. That's good defense, that's good. They have 580 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: not had a red zone defensive snap so far in 581 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: their first two games. Because I think the closest to 582 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: anybody's gotten is like they're twenty five. They have given 583 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: up less than four hundred total yards to Cincinnati and Pittsburgh, 584 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: so they are allowing less than two hundred yards per game. 585 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: That's good defense. That's good defense too. But interestingly enough, 586 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: they have only two takeaways and they have only four 587 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: sacks so far, which is kind of strange. They've turned 588 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: the ball over six times and they've given up nine 589 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: quarterback sacks, so their offense has not been very efficient 590 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: or very clean as you would say, but their defense 591 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: is through the. 592 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 3: Roof well, because he's got people. I mean, it's it's 593 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 3: all about the players. But if you can, we went 594 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 3: back to what the difference in professional player Schwartzy gives 595 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 3: his guys a chance to do what they do and 596 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 3: doesn't try to muddle it up a lot. 597 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: So would you be willing to do this again if 598 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: we ask for questions for coach Mack, would you be 599 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: willing to do it again? 600 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 3: I want I want the OT people to come to bed, 601 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,959 Speaker 3: Bath and Beyond in London, see and so that we 602 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 3: can got it, so that we can. 603 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: We probably got to stop joking about this because aren't 604 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: they out of business AOA. Okay, So that's one thing. 605 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: And the second thing is if they aren't out of 606 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: business in London, the OT people will show up there 607 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: expecting to see you in the Crockpot Aisle and you 608 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: and you won't be there buying a new bedspread. You know, 609 00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: I waited by a kitchen for hours. Coach is literally 610 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: going to be an announcement. 611 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 2: What was the real name of it, rip barrow Boy 612 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 2: and Banker? 613 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: Okay, I think Bedbeth and Beyond is better. 614 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I don't even know what all that is. 615 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's but again, next week, information is going to 616 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,719 Speaker 1: come out for those going to London about what's going 617 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: to happen in terms of the the get together sort 618 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: of thing. And I'm hoping we can be there and 619 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: I'm hoping you'll choose to be there, but there will 620 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: be like an official thing. 621 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 3: That's so great. And you know, I've been over there 622 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,239 Speaker 3: quite a few times as a coach, but now when 623 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 3: we went over as a brother, I can we can 624 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 3: interact with the fans now as what we do as 625 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 3: a coach. You can't you and you know the places 626 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 3: that I've gone. 627 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,479 Speaker 1: You were there for like five hours or something crazy 628 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: weren't you. You stayed a long time the last time 629 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: we were the last time twenty eighteen. 630 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, why would you leave? Well, I mean you're you're 631 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 3: with Titans fans in London. 632 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: Well, I left because my family said we're leave it. 633 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: That's why I left. 634 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 2: It's old time, Mike, because Uh's curse that Keith Bullach 635 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 2: just kept going and going and going. 636 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 3: I did. Coach Mike, won't leave now with what I'm 637 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 3: doing now in this second career that You've afforded me. 638 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 3: If I'm if the fans are there, I'm in the 639 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 3: middle of it. 640 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: I know again next week that's going to come out. 641 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: I also want to mention that we hope that you 642 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: will subscribe to the Titans YouTube channel because we've got 643 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: a lot of great stuff on the Titans YouTube channel 644 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: right now, like everything Coach Mac does on tv UH. 645 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: The video version of the OTP, different things from our 646 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: various shows are on the Titans YouTube and it's easy 647 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: to find. 648 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 3: It is very it's easy to find and it's easy 649 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 3: to pull up, and it's it's really not because I'm 650 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 3: on it that doesn't but the production of it's tremendous. 651 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 2: It is tremendous and you can help by hitting the 652 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 2: like button when you subscribe and all so hitting the 653 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 2: notification bell so that you're notified when there's new content, 654 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 2: which there is every day. 655 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: There's new stuff every day everything we do. I mean, 656 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: no matter where you are in the world, if you 657 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: go to the Titans YouTube channel, you can find something 658 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: new every day that helps you get ready for Sunday 659 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: or you know, like some of our other outstanding features 660 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: that we do on various things. We'd love for you 661 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: to tune in and stay up with them. 662 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the people over there bed bonkers and bath can. 663 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 2: Bed bonkers and Bath well, he's pulling out a different reference. 664 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 3: I'm trying anyway anyway they can see. 665 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: It too, That's right. And that's the thing is we'd 666 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: love meeting the international fans. When we went to London 667 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: and you know now we're going to get at some 668 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: point we're going to get to go to Germany. That'll 669 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: happen for us, but Madrid too, that's gonna happen. 670 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 3: Ye saw that and just I was with the Bears. 671 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 3: We went to Gutenborg, Sweden. Nice laid the Vikings. 672 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: Was everybody for the Vikings there you think we. 673 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 3: Went, and we went. We went to Berlin to play 674 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 3: the forty nine ers were there for a week. Uh, 675 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,439 Speaker 3: it's it's an experience and we had fans all over 676 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 3: the place and the Titans fans that showed up in 677 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 3: London last time. Wow massive, it was really cool. So 678 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 3: looking forward to that, looking forward to winning every game 679 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 3: we play up until then, and it'll be rolling there. 680 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: You go for coach Dave McGinnis, who was kind enough 681 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 1: to take your questions and sit in the Snickers hot seat, 682 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 1: and thank you for the questions, by the way, to 683 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: the ot people, and for Rett Brian, I'm Mike Keith, 684 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: thanking you for joining us from the bet MGM studio 685 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 1: for the oaths t