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Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Yomen's. How's it going, everybody? That's good? What
Speaker 1: you were shaking your head right there? I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: do it today? No? What? Nope? What's that? No? We
Speaker 1: said overreaction Monday and I just started going, Nope, not
Speaker 1: gonna overreact. That's a good thing. And you know, it's
Speaker 1: kind of a great place to be as Cowboys fans
Speaker 1: because we've gotten to sleep on it a little bit.
Speaker 1: We've gotten to kind of mellow out after the Thursday
Speaker 1: lost and marinate to the Yeah that that could be
Speaker 1: the other word you could use to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,
Speaker 1: But you're right. Overreaction Monday is a thing around the NFL.
Speaker 1: We had over overreaction Friday. So this is a this
Speaker 1: is a reflection Monday where we still look back at
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay game, but now we get a chance
Speaker 1: to look ahead, and unfortunately for the Cowboys, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of bumps on the road coming ahead and the
Speaker 1: form of injuries and the form of suspensions. And we
Speaker 1: will get into all of that coming up here in
Speaker 1: a little bit, but let's start things off by taking
Speaker 1: a look back at the Week one just in general, Cowboys,
Speaker 1: rest of the NFL, rob what stuck out to you
Speaker 1: the most from the entire league? Either one I was.
Speaker 1: We talked about this on a text message last night, like,
Speaker 1: what's the thing? Isaiah had a great idea, what now
Speaker 1: that it's marinating, you've had a weekend to marinate, what
Speaker 1: stands out in your mind about Week one? And for me,
Speaker 1: it's defensively, how did they play? Was it? Was it good?
Speaker 1: Was it more like last year? You know, because I
Speaker 1: think if you want to tie it up into a
Speaker 1: nice little narrative, you could say it kind of felt
Speaker 1: like twenty twenty. You know. Offensively, they did a lot
Speaker 1: of good things. They scored some points, they piled up yards.
Speaker 1: Red zone wasn't great. Special teams did some okay things,
Speaker 1: had some some mistakes there. And defensively they gave up
Speaker 1: touchdowns and they gave up a key drive at the end.
Speaker 1: But you know, going back and looking at it, I
Speaker 1: thought I thought it was better. I thought it was
Speaker 1: definitely better than what we saw last year. You know,
Speaker 1: if you look at what they did in the second
Speaker 1: half of that game. Yes, they gave up the field
Speaker 1: goal late, but Tampa Bay had five drives. It was
Speaker 1: a punt, touchdown, punt, fumble, field goal. That's better. That's
Speaker 1: better against the Tom Brady defense. So I'm more encouraged
Speaker 1: after spending the weekend marinating. As Isaiah would say, after
Speaker 1: the weekend, and not much has changed for me. I'm
Speaker 1: still concerned on the offensive side of the ball, in
Speaker 1: terms of our ability to throw the ball downfield. I'm
Speaker 1: still concerned about Dak and his confidence in his shoulder,
Speaker 1: whether that's mental, whether that's physical. Either way, it had
Speaker 1: an effect over our ability to throw the ball down
Speaker 1: the field. So we got to figure that out because
Speaker 1: I don't believe that we'll be successful as we'd like
Speaker 1: to be if we can't have those big plays over
Speaker 1: the top and we have the receivers to do it
Speaker 1: minus one obviously right now, but we have to be
Speaker 1: able to have those big plays down the field. Defensively,
Speaker 1: I love the way we flied, we were flying around,
Speaker 1: but we have to be able to cover man because
Speaker 1: that's what's going to be asked of them. They're going
Speaker 1: to be asked to cover, to play man coverage. And
Speaker 1: we have another tall task coming up this week on
Speaker 1: the outside with some guys are actually a little bit
Speaker 1: bigger overall, and then special teams dog on it. Man.
Speaker 1: We can't we can't keep giving up returns like this.
Speaker 1: We have to get stout on that side of on
Speaker 1: that side of things, that's a third of the game.
Speaker 1: And I think if anybody never thought about it in
Speaker 1: their regard, I think people as probably more starting the
Speaker 1: forefront of their minds now, that is a very important
Speaker 1: aspect of the game. They don't just let it be
Speaker 1: something that you write off and think that your second
Speaker 1: stringers just go and play special teams. That is a
Speaker 1: very impactful portion and it's something that we have to
Speaker 1: dominate if we want to be in position to win
Speaker 1: ball games. Well, I mean, I got I gotta what
Speaker 1: four good days asleep and still woke up with the
Speaker 1: same worries. But some of them I think I've subsided
Speaker 1: a little bit. Really, it was good to see Trey
Speaker 1: Von Diggs actually dominate a top tier wide receiver and
Speaker 1: seeing him take those steps, I think everybody in Cowboys Nation,
Speaker 1: can you know, kind of rest your head on the
Speaker 1: fact that we have that cute that's quarterback one. Now,
Speaker 1: will he travel? Will some of those things happen? Because
Speaker 1: you know, if you can do that in your defense,
Speaker 1: that really allows Quinn to be very creative with what
Speaker 1: he does. But man also bones fossil the special team
Speaker 1: was I think that's one of the things that it's
Speaker 1: going to come back to revisit and bite you again
Speaker 1: because you're gonna have to be able to cover special
Speaker 1: teams the way that Mickens was able to get them
Speaker 1: in favorable field position. I think that's you cannot do
Speaker 1: that and bones Fossil as a coach. I think we've
Speaker 1: made so much of him and what he's done. I
Speaker 1: think you have to come back and revisit that, especially
Speaker 1: when the special team group has the words that they have.
Speaker 1: But Kella Moore's offense, I mean, after watching so much
Speaker 1: football this weekend, I just recognized that football has changed.
Speaker 1: It's a passing league. We watched NFL yesterday and not
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of runs. I mean the running backs.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about running backs, yeah are It's being cut
Speaker 1: out and there's just throwing it all over the park.
Speaker 1: And I think the Booe Eagles were the only team
Speaker 1: to actually have a running back with twenty five plus Russians.
Speaker 1: And I could be wrong in that. I'm sure they're
Speaker 1: gonna fact check me. Still, I just feel like the
Speaker 1: whole league is changing. And you know, look, I do
Speaker 1: not doubt that Kelly Moore is going to end up
Speaker 1: being a head coach in the NFL or at some point,
Speaker 1: but just man, I think that this offense was in
Speaker 1: the college, it would be explosive. I would want to
Speaker 1: play in this kind of offense. Because he's starting it
Speaker 1: all over, but defensively, just the last thing is, you know,
Speaker 1: look they still put up thirty points, and it's kind
Speaker 1: of hard to say, you know, look that was there's
Speaker 1: marked improvements, but at the same time, there was thirty
Speaker 1: points put up against the defense. But there are some
Speaker 1: things that you can hang your hat on and it's
Speaker 1: probably at the front line that you feel good about. No,
Speaker 1: I completely agree with you. And by the way, in
Speaker 1: terms of in terms of rushing around the league. In
Speaker 1: the AFC, there were only three one hundred yard rushers
Speaker 1: and there are three guys that you wouldn't have expect
Speaker 1: expected Joe Mixon, Melvin Gorman, Gordon and then Damien Harris.
Speaker 1: And the NFC there are only two and that was
Speaker 1: Elijah Mitchell and David Montgomery. So not a lot of
Speaker 1: running backs had success Week one. So you're right, if
Speaker 1: that's what you're basing the success of this offfense on,
Speaker 1: maybe think again, don't necessarily think that's the case. But
Speaker 1: I want to kind of go back the other direction. Now,
Speaker 1: if you had to rank the three UNIX units offense,
Speaker 1: defense special teams from last Thursday, what would you rank them?
Speaker 1: One through three? One through three? That's tough. I'll go
Speaker 1: if you want, I'll go offense, defense, special teams. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know, special teams. I think we've talked about it
Speaker 1: whole body of work last year, probably the best unit
Speaker 1: they had butcher on Thursday, most consistent, most consistent. But
Speaker 1: on Thursday night they gave up a big kickoff return,
Speaker 1: a couple penalties, and multiple punt right. Yeah. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: Greg's airline missed two big kicks or you know, an
Speaker 1: extra point and field goal that costs them the game.
Speaker 1: So three kicks when you think about it, so two
Speaker 1: field goal attempts. So you know that was that was
Speaker 1: a tough night for the special teams. Yeah, I agree
Speaker 1: with rot pe E exactly, an order I was going
Speaker 1: to utilize. UM. I think offense stepped up. Even though
Speaker 1: we didn't take advantage of some of the opportunities we had,
Speaker 1: we still were pretty consistent for the most part. We
Speaker 1: abandoned the run when we just talked about that. UM. Defensively, Uh,
Speaker 1: these guys they're flying around. I think we talked about
Speaker 1: it last week in terms of us actually having a culture.
Speaker 1: Now we have an identity. So that's something we've talked
Speaker 1: about extensively over the past, you know, summer. So that's
Speaker 1: encouraging to see, but again we have to man up.
Speaker 1: We got we gotta be getting these guys facing guards
Speaker 1: some dudes, and it's hard in this league. But guess what,
Speaker 1: that's what you got and that's what you're paid to do.
Speaker 1: And then Special Teams, I mean, shoot, I mean that's
Speaker 1: just effort. That's really just effort. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't believe that coach Fossil was drawing up plays
Speaker 1: that put us at a disadvantage of Special Teams. So
Speaker 1: it really just comes down to executing and and understand
Speaker 1: its film study, right, understanding what are these teams trying
Speaker 1: to do? Now? Obviously week one, it's kind of hard
Speaker 1: to do film study because you don't know what the
Speaker 1: heck they're gonna do. But as as a Special Teams player,
Speaker 1: you have to be high alert, you have to communicate. UM,
Speaker 1: it takes a lot Special Teams. It's probably more demanding
Speaker 1: um mentally than offensive defense, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: because you have to be aware of so much. You
Speaker 1: have to be aware of the other guys around you,
Speaker 1: and there's their schemes directly against you. UM. Depending off
Speaker 1: your impact putting a player tackler, disruptor or things of
Speaker 1: that nature. So there's a lot more moving parts and
Speaker 1: you have to be a lot more versatile as a
Speaker 1: player if you're playing special teams. And you know, you
Speaker 1: have to also think about Noah Brown's absence, absolutely and
Speaker 1: maybe you know that that wasn't this don't want to
Speaker 1: magnify that, but again it may have been something that
Speaker 1: made a difference on special teams as well. But one, two,
Speaker 1: and three being offense defensive special teams, I think is
Speaker 1: just makes sense. And yeah, you hope the kicking situation
Speaker 1: does not carry over. No, I don't think so, man.
Speaker 1: I mean I don't think so either. But I mean
Speaker 1: we've seen it here where it's snowballs. You know, if
Speaker 1: a guy has a bad game, and but I don't
Speaker 1: know if they've had they the last time they had
Speaker 1: a kicker this accomplished it was it was Dan Bailey.
Speaker 1: We saw it eventually with Dan Bailey. A lot of
Speaker 1: stuff's mental, But I'm chalking it up to Russ. Yeah. Remember, yeah,
Speaker 1: the last kick was was dead center. And but you know,
Speaker 1: Jerry on the fan, he was talking about how we
Speaker 1: probably were kidding ourselves to think that you know, he's
Speaker 1: not gonna kick basically all preseason until the last game
Speaker 1: he gets one field goal attempt in there, and he
Speaker 1: was just gonna beat Greg's airline all but admitted that
Speaker 1: that was on the coaches pretty much. Jerry pretty much
Speaker 1: says everything. Yeah, just a tiny bit actually saying that, Yeah, totally. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And you're trusting you're trusting John Fossil's relationship that the
Speaker 1: history coaching Greg's airline. I don't think it's going to
Speaker 1: be a problem over the course, but I think they're
Speaker 1: playing a good team this Sunday. So you hope it
Speaker 1: doesn't come down to a kick or two here like
Speaker 1: it down Thursday night. But you've got to you've got
Speaker 1: to depend on this guy that if it does come
Speaker 1: down to a kick or two, that he can actually
Speaker 1: do it for you. Yeah. I have him, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean before Thursday night. I tweeted this out on Friday,
Speaker 1: but him as the Cowboys kicker before Thursday, kicks inside
Speaker 1: forty yards, he was nineteen of nineteen kicks inside fifty yards,
Speaker 1: he was thirty one of thirty two, so six of
Speaker 1: the seven kicks he missed last year were beyond fifty yards.
Speaker 1: Which are hit or miss regardless. I'm sure you would
Speaker 1: like him to hit it because his nickname is Greg
Speaker 1: the Leg, but you want him to be more automatic.
Speaker 1: I mean, that was the problem prior to Greg Zirline
Speaker 1: was the automatic side of things between thirty and fifty
Speaker 1: yards that if you're in field goal range quote unquote
Speaker 1: field goal range, that you're gonna make it. And he
Speaker 1: didn't do that on Thursday. That was the Brett Maher thing.
Speaker 1: If Brett Maher kicks from fifty five two years ago,
Speaker 1: you're like, man, that was a great kick, and then
Speaker 1: it's thirty five and you're like, you're holding your breath.
Speaker 1: You know, that's not Greg's Airline's history. So that's definitely yeah.
Speaker 1: So I think we're I think we'll feel a little
Speaker 1: bit more comfortable about Greg Zirline than Brett Maher. So
Speaker 1: we've got a couple guys out, which one do we
Speaker 1: want to start with. We're gonna start with a wide
Speaker 1: receiver or the offensive tackle because both of them are big.
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna start with the offensive tackle and
Speaker 1: we're gonna go into that. Well, we'll take this into
Speaker 1: the second segment as well. But Rob Lyle Collins now
Speaker 1: suspended five games by the NFL for substance abuse. Yes,
Speaker 1: infractions is the best way to say it. Their violation
Speaker 1: of the policy. There you go. So he is unable
Speaker 1: to return until after the week's sixth game against New England. Correct,
Speaker 1: he'll be Yeah, he'll be ready to get back into
Speaker 1: everything the monday after. Goodness gracious, So out five weeks
Speaker 1: you don't have your right tackle who you didn't have
Speaker 1: all of twenty twenty, and we saw exactly how that
Speaker 1: panned out. What's the biggest thing on your mind now
Speaker 1: about not having Lyle Collins best five is that It's
Speaker 1: kind of why I wanted to ask it that way,
Speaker 1: is are we going basketball here? Like? Is it? How
Speaker 1: are they gonna how are they gonna address this thing?
Speaker 1: And I'm curious what you guys think because I've kind
Speaker 1: of been saying it, but I don't know if Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy's actually gonna do what he finally did last year,
Speaker 1: and that's change out two spots. Well, my question is
Speaker 1: how soon did the team know that there was a
Speaker 1: suspension coming down? I mean, I think that they knew
Speaker 1: right right, and yeah, if they just a little bit,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think they were blindsided by it.
Speaker 1: And you know, when you look at the fifty three,
Speaker 1: what they what they ultimately did, maybe it wasn't a
Speaker 1: coincidence that they kept Tiniseki and Terrence Steele. I didn't
Speaker 1: think much of it because you know, Terrence Steele is
Speaker 1: kind of the developmental young guy and ni sekis the
Speaker 1: experienced guy. But they did keep some extra depth there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's my thing about Layl is when
Speaker 1: did they find out Um? And you know, were there
Speaker 1: any additional moves on the table to cover the team?
Speaker 1: Tiniscki in the in the preseason has just looked slow
Speaker 1: to me. Um, but he's a little bit better than
Speaker 1: than Steel and that's really not saying a whole lot.
Speaker 1: And you say that, but you think about Dak and
Speaker 1: his development and what he did last week and going
Speaker 1: into this game this week, Well, you got a boast
Speaker 1: a brother on the other side of you that's going
Speaker 1: to become and and you're gonna well, I think the
Speaker 1: one thing you have to do is get him help, right,
Speaker 1: But you know that this guy is going to be
Speaker 1: directly in Dak's vision, So how do they make that work?
Speaker 1: And when you talk about best five. I felt like
Speaker 1: the offense got flowing so much better in the running
Speaker 1: game once we converted Zach Martin out to tackle. But
Speaker 1: based off of everything that I'm here and Zach doesn't
Speaker 1: want to go out to tackle, so which would be
Speaker 1: I guess after seeing McGovern last week, you would think, Okay,
Speaker 1: put mcgovernor at right tackle, Zach out to you excuse me,
Speaker 1: mc goovernor at right guard, Zach out to right tackle. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, let's just see how these things developed, because obviously,
Speaker 1: if you get down by too much in this this
Speaker 1: second game, or you know, it carries over to the
Speaker 1: next week versus Philadelphia, you're gonna have to make some
Speaker 1: moves to shore up the offensive line because right now,
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a lot of confidence there. I
Speaker 1: don't like it. I don't like it at all, you know,
Speaker 1: and I want to I almost want to say, hey,
Speaker 1: let's just use Martin as you would use a corner
Speaker 1: right so, you know, just the same way we're saying, hey,
Speaker 1: tray Bard, you might have to you might have to follow,
Speaker 1: you know, the best receiver around. You know, you know, Zach,
Speaker 1: you might we might have to put you at guard
Speaker 1: one day and put you out right tackle the next
Speaker 1: you know, just just based upon the biggest threat, and
Speaker 1: obviously going into this week, the biggest threat is dog
Speaker 1: on the bussa boy. Yeah, right, and and he already
Speaker 1: has a sack in the forest fumble, so we might
Speaker 1: want to consider putting him out there, even though that's
Speaker 1: not really where he wants to be. We know he's
Speaker 1: a team player, we know he's one of the best
Speaker 1: guards ever. But where do we need you most tackle?
Speaker 1: And I think that's where what we might have to do.
Speaker 1: That's the approach I would take. But my name is
Speaker 1: not coach Field. That's where I'm at, man like. And
Speaker 1: you know, you say he's a team player, he'll do
Speaker 1: whatever needs to be done. But you know, I get
Speaker 1: the hesitancy because you don't. There's no position that relies
Speaker 1: more on chemistry than the line, and so you're switching
Speaker 1: out three of the five spots that that chicks. Yeah
Speaker 1: it does, um And I know somebody threw out to
Speaker 1: us in the mail back today, watch put Connor Williams
Speaker 1: at at at right tackle and keep Zach at right guard,
Speaker 1: keep him happy, and then Connor McGovern, they've said, is
Speaker 1: much better more more comfortable at right guard. So the
Speaker 1: question is, did he play well enough to make you
Speaker 1: feel like, well, best five, Let's keep him in the
Speaker 1: lineup and and kick maybe kick Zack out the right tackle.
Speaker 1: Mike just seems hesitant and publicly to do that. I mean,
Speaker 1: he said even Friday, like, I'd like to continue doing what,
Speaker 1: you know, working with the guys we've been working at tackle.
Speaker 1: So I don't I don't foresee us doing it. That's
Speaker 1: I think that's what we're all suggesting, and I think
Speaker 1: that's what we will all do, But I don't foresee
Speaker 1: us doing it, especially after this first game, seeing how
Speaker 1: much too tight we used. We used a lot of
Speaker 1: too tight, a lot of twelve personnel, and I think
Speaker 1: that we had to and I think we're gonna have
Speaker 1: to again, you know what I'm saying. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think you're gonna have to again. You know, I'm putting
Speaker 1: up having a tight end, you know, with his hand
Speaker 1: in the ground, and another tight end in the wing
Speaker 1: set um, you know, right in his hip pocket, just
Speaker 1: to kind of disturb, you know, and disrupt what Bosa
Speaker 1: is gonna try to do to us. I mean, because
Speaker 1: he's a beast, you know, even I mean, even even
Speaker 1: if Lyol was playing, he still would have had his
Speaker 1: hands full with dog On Bosa. But I think you
Speaker 1: trust Lyle much more than you ever. Yeah, no, no,
Speaker 1: not even. And this is and I'm saying that's obvious
Speaker 1: that I'm saying that. But also I think it limits
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott also in our offense again, because he's gonna
Speaker 1: have to stay at home, he's gonna have to chip
Speaker 1: on Bosa basically stay stay home to protect dak So
Speaker 1: from somebody who's been in contract negotiations and a locker
Speaker 1: room and switched positions back and forth. How much is
Speaker 1: it kind of a taboo thing to switch a position
Speaker 1: like that? Even as simple as it is to say, hey,
Speaker 1: let's swing Zack Martin out the tackle, it's not that
Speaker 1: easy from a contract standpoint. I mean, Zach Martin in
Speaker 1: terms of average salary per year, it's the fourth highest
Speaker 1: paid guard in the league with fourteen million a year,
Speaker 1: fourth highest paid guard in the league. If you would
Speaker 1: have switched permanently the tackle and that would be the
Speaker 1: same contract, he'd be twenty first in terms of highest
Speaker 1: paid tackles in the league. So you think about the
Speaker 1: contract disparity. You saw it with Peters in Philadelphia a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago when he made the permanent switched
Speaker 1: to tackle. He said, give my money, where's my money?
Speaker 1: I'm playing tackle now, more demanding role. So I know
Speaker 1: what's for five weeks and a lot of the times
Speaker 1: there's there's coaches having conversations and saying, hey, we need
Speaker 1: you to do what's best for the team. Sure, but
Speaker 1: with this guy like Zach Martin, with the pedigree that
Speaker 1: he has and the value that he obviously has for
Speaker 1: your organization, is it worth disgruntling him from that? It's
Speaker 1: a it's a great point. And maybe just maybe you're
Speaker 1: just going to have a big maybe question mark big.
Speaker 1: Maybe we did free up a lot of cap space
Speaker 1: here over the past few weeks, so being that they
Speaker 1: might have known this is coming down, being that you
Speaker 1: just brought that point up, maybe they created us in
Speaker 1: space to be able to give him a little to
Speaker 1: give a little love tap because they knew that they
Speaker 1: might have to make this move. That's a big maybe. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But there there is money there should we have to,
Speaker 1: you know, take care of that. I mean, you bring
Speaker 1: up a good point, Kyle, and just going from where
Speaker 1: he is pay scale wise going out and you would
Speaker 1: now be the twenty first guy. And this is a
Speaker 1: temporary situation. And just like Zach Misson last week, we
Speaker 1: realized it was a temporary situation. So him coming back,
Speaker 1: we all were like, yes, and then we get the
Speaker 1: noodles of Layelle. No, we don't want to have to
Speaker 1: deal with this weekend and week out. I'm just speaking
Speaker 1: from a stand point of Once he did make the
Speaker 1: move to tackle, our running games seemed to flourish a
Speaker 1: little bit more. We were able to do a lot
Speaker 1: more with him in that position, as Terrence Steele just
Speaker 1: pretty much gave us no option with getting a tight
Speaker 1: end out and into coverage or doing any of that
Speaker 1: because he was so much of a looked at as
Speaker 1: a liability. Um. And you just again, each and every week,
Speaker 1: there's going to be a guy across from him that's
Speaker 1: gonna be bonafide and it's gonna limit if we continue this,
Speaker 1: then it's gonna limit our offense for the next five weeks.
Speaker 1: I'm just curious, what's what's Lyle's base salary this year fourteen?
Speaker 1: And Zax is how much? Oh so you're sorry? I
Speaker 1: was saying zax. That was Zax. I'll get to Lyles
Speaker 1: here in a second. So right, yeah, I'm sure it's
Speaker 1: probably bigger than what Lyle's getting paid. So heck, what
Speaker 1: would you do? Would you want your your your difference
Speaker 1: in pay? Chris said it was ten, So yeah, that
Speaker 1: makes sense. Yeah, well, if I'm taking on a larger
Speaker 1: role and everybody, I mean, obviously this is a league
Speaker 1: where everybody looks at how much I'm getting paid. The
Speaker 1: guy on another the team is getting paid. There're gonna
Speaker 1: move me out to tackle. I want to get paid
Speaker 1: like tackles um. But obviously they're going to pitch it
Speaker 1: to him as a it's a bend Aid thing. And
Speaker 1: then there's an agent that's gonna call and say, oh,
Speaker 1: can you pay for the bend Aid money? Yeah, if
Speaker 1: we get that, man, I don't really I don't see
Speaker 1: that really. But but the thing that stands out to
Speaker 1: me is like it's a sucky situation for Lyle Collins.
Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't play all of last year. He
Speaker 1: gets this next singer that costs him the end of
Speaker 1: training camp, he plays one game, and now he's coming
Speaker 1: back midseason. So it's like a year and a half
Speaker 1: of football, but it's time comes back. Do we have
Speaker 1: clarity on what actually happened. I'm hearing all kinds of things.
Speaker 1: I'm hearing the heel he did not take the test
Speaker 1: and therefore he received this penalty. Those are the reports, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. It's all confidential. Yeah, and there's steps within
Speaker 1: the program that as far as I know. But Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy did not want to discuss it. I mean, he
Speaker 1: seemed like he's a little angry. Yeah, he called it
Speaker 1: awkward timing, which is it's a great question, like did
Speaker 1: that mean they didn't know? And I think they knew
Speaker 1: something was to him? Yeah, I think. I mean, you
Speaker 1: think of all the years that we've heard about Gregory,
Speaker 1: it's always if that's something came down, It came down
Speaker 1: before the season. And so obviously we're gonna miss Zack Martin.
Speaker 1: Thank god we didn't have to go without our whole
Speaker 1: right side. That would have been complete disaster last week.
Speaker 1: But just Mike, my question is, you know how far
Speaker 1: in advanced that they know and was Leall actually playing
Speaker 1: and with Zach being out did that factor in two?
Speaker 1: I mean, stranger things have happened in the NFL, right,
Speaker 1: You know, did did Jerry make a call? Jerry might
Speaker 1: have made a call. I think you would have made
Speaker 1: a bigger call if you could have. You gotta make
Speaker 1: a call. You gotta make a call and say, hey, look, manya,
Speaker 1: I can't do it like this. Just give me the
Speaker 1: first game. Just give me the first time. What you
Speaker 1: want him after days? But I needed the first guy.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying. I mean, the way that this happened,
Speaker 1: it's really kind of weird and awkward. So I think
Speaker 1: that's probably what's throwing Mike McCarthy off. And then there's
Speaker 1: all this stuff about him appealing and lawyers being involved
Speaker 1: in all of that. So I don't think that they
Speaker 1: just found this out. Yeah, and I'm sure we're probably
Speaker 1: not going to hear the end of it for quite
Speaker 1: some time either. I think it's gonna be a little
Speaker 1: bit of time before this thing really goes away, and
Speaker 1: we'll see how it goes. But when we come back,
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Speaker 1: All right, yes, sir, yeah, taking some calls. Okay. So
Speaker 1: Michael Gallop out for what could be multiple weeks. Haven't
Speaker 1: actually had a designation on how long the injury was.
Speaker 1: There was reports out there that it was three to
Speaker 1: five weeks. I don't know if that's necessarily the case, Rob,
Speaker 1: can you clarify that. I think that's pretty accurate. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be. I think he's a candidate for i R.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're actually gonna do it. It's
Speaker 1: three weeks, three weeks if they do, it's he'd be
Speaker 1: back in three weeks minimum, So it's not for the season.
Speaker 1: So you're saying that we're gonna be without Gallop, Brown
Speaker 1: and Turner. Yeah, well Brown, Noah should be back maybe
Speaker 1: this week. No is back. No is back. He just
Speaker 1: was inactive ye last week. Um, And I don't know
Speaker 1: that they're gonna put Gallop on it. I just think
Speaker 1: that's an option. It is like he's gonna be out
Speaker 1: for a month. Why not, you know, open up a
Speaker 1: roster spot. And it was an ankle injury specified after
Speaker 1: the in the second half of that loss to Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay last week. So Nobe he didn't have a split
Speaker 1: in this contract. Yeah, I don't know if he did
Speaker 1: or not. That's that's the stuff people don't know about.
Speaker 1: That's that's these new rules they mess with guys contracts
Speaker 1: because if you go on IR and you had to
Speaker 1: split in your contract, that means if you ever go
Speaker 1: on IR, you get a percentage of what your salary is.
Speaker 1: Oh that that's absolutely so. Oh it definitely sucks. So
Speaker 1: I know some people's money. Yeah, I know. I got
Speaker 1: put on IR like one week before the end of
Speaker 1: the season when I was one of my times here
Speaker 1: in Dallas, and it cuts your for my split. I
Speaker 1: think I was down to a thirty percent split, So
Speaker 1: thirty percent of what I was supposed to make when
Speaker 1: you're on ir W oh yeah. So it's not just oh,
Speaker 1: he just goes on I R for a minute. He'll
Speaker 1: be back. Guys are like, no, no, no, no, I
Speaker 1: could play a little bit faster. I got this. I'm
Speaker 1: ready to go. Guys, Okay, But who is ready to
Speaker 1: go In terms of the wide receiver position, Isaiah Brown,
Speaker 1: nor Brown and nor Brown, I think that I think,
Speaker 1: I mean said Will is already playing. I mean, he
Speaker 1: played a lot last game, so he's definitely he's thrown
Speaker 1: in there. He's a number three right off the bat.
Speaker 1: But then nor Brown comes in at number four and
Speaker 1: he helped you immediately on special teams. Simmy for Hoka
Speaker 1: was active last week, but I think he only played
Speaker 1: on maybe two special teams. So I think, as we
Speaker 1: talked about before, this is his working resume right now,
Speaker 1: this is his extended period for his preseason. I think
Speaker 1: they're seeing what he can do, and I think by
Speaker 1: the time Malik Turner is ready to come back, they're
Speaker 1: gonna make a decision on Hey, Simmy, have you done enough? So?
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm pretty sure he'll be active again, but
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to make an impact and not just
Speaker 1: be a guy on special teams. So you said this
Speaker 1: is giving him rope. Basically, this is the giving rope period,
Speaker 1: you know. I think I love what you said, and
Speaker 1: I agree. I think a lot of people don't understand
Speaker 1: that this isn't just a three wide receiver thing here
Speaker 1: in Dallas. More uses everybody and you saw that with
Speaker 1: the way that he used Wilson. But I think Noah
Speaker 1: Brown impact not only, like I said, special teams, but
Speaker 1: also on offense. I think he does a lot of
Speaker 1: good things in those intermediate routes, and I think Dak
Speaker 1: trusts him and he's yes, and that's what Michael Gallot does. Also,
Speaker 1: the people don't mention that he's a better blocker than
Speaker 1: a lot of guys, and so it's going to be
Speaker 1: impactful for this team to have to try and deal
Speaker 1: without MG. But I think that man, I just this
Speaker 1: is that time that I wish Malik Turner was healthy
Speaker 1: because now he did so much in preseason, did so
Speaker 1: much in camp. But again, you have veteran guys already
Speaker 1: here that's proven that they could do it. So Wilson,
Speaker 1: I think, is going to be the guy that really
Speaker 1: steps up, if you want to think in a positive manner.
Speaker 1: Only four receivers received any sort of snaps on Thursday,
Speaker 1: and that was the Big three and then Cedric Wilson.
Speaker 1: Wilson went three targets, three receptions, so he was able
Speaker 1: to make the catch on all three times the ball
Speaker 1: was thrown his way for twenty four yards on twenty
Speaker 1: seven snaps total. So that's a positive thing is that
Speaker 1: even as were being used, you don't have to go
Speaker 1: further down the list and you have to That's a
Speaker 1: nice workload though for a number four receiver twenty snaps. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's not including special team snaps. It's a good point. So,
Speaker 1: I mean he probably had a fifty snap, you know,
Speaker 1: sixty snap game. I mean, that's that's that's that's a
Speaker 1: great point because like he's a core guy, and especially
Speaker 1: didn't you hit a nice tackle, Especially when you're a
Speaker 1: core guy, you're on kickoff, kickoff return, punt punt return,
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm talking about. The point. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're like you're you're in there, I don't care where
Speaker 1: you're at on there, but you're you're in there having
Speaker 1: an impact some way, somehow, you know. And that's what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. Like terms of semi when I saw
Speaker 1: I think it was punt, when I saw a punt covers,
Speaker 1: I didn't see him on punt. I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: that's not goode. Wilson had eight snaps on special teams
Speaker 1: as well, so so he was a you know, thirty
Speaker 1: five snap guy. That's that's a solid day now for
Speaker 1: a four for number four receiver. I was just looking
Speaker 1: up the stats last year for Noah Brown in the
Speaker 1: five games that he played with Dak and then the
Speaker 1: six games for Cedric Wilson counting last week, and Noah
Speaker 1: Brown was seven of eight targets catches for eighty yards
Speaker 1: and Cedric was fifteen to twenty for one hundred and
Speaker 1: ninety and two touchdowns, both against Seattle. Like that that
Speaker 1: that is an underrated part of this offense. And I
Speaker 1: know people wanted to cut both guys. Yeah, you find
Speaker 1: space for them that they have a nice rapport with
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. Like I'm I think Michael Gopp's a fantastic
Speaker 1: young receiver. But like I feel better about this situation
Speaker 1: than Lyle Collins being out five in part because it
Speaker 1: may be less for Mike being out, and then you
Speaker 1: can use a lot of a lot more positions on offense.
Speaker 1: Not only is he can go in the slot, he
Speaker 1: can also play a little bit of tight end. And
Speaker 1: know people don't like to hear that, but he can
Speaker 1: play a little and definitely make some blocks that are
Speaker 1: tight ends didn't make. So that's That's the other thing too,
Speaker 1: is that Kellen wants all the receivers to play every position,
Speaker 1: and Cedric Wilson can do that. When he first got here,
Speaker 1: That's the thing he kept telling me when I sat
Speaker 1: down with him one time, was I gotta learn every
Speaker 1: position and so. And Mike didn't really play as many
Speaker 1: slot reps as maybe we thought he would based off
Speaker 1: a camp. I think he was mostly on the outside
Speaker 1: against Tampa Bay. But there's still that versatility there within
Speaker 1: the within the receiving corps, within the unit. But I
Speaker 1: still are they snake bit though? My god, you know,
Speaker 1: Friday after the game, it's like you can't even enjoy
Speaker 1: a moral victory. You know, you felt like you're still
Speaker 1: doing You're feeling good despite the loss. It's only sixteen
Speaker 1: more weeks to go, right, Oh, that's an eternity fine
Speaker 1: way stuff, man, that's a tough that's a tough double blow.
Speaker 1: On Friday, before we go to the phone lines here, uh,
Speaker 1: you talked about slot reps. Cedric Wilson had the most
Speaker 1: slot reps on the team on Thursday, tied or actually
Speaker 1: tied with that, tied with Amari Cooper with twenty three.
Speaker 1: Michael Gallipoli had four slot reps. Yeah, so that's actually
Speaker 1: kind of you think about just the natural plug and
Speaker 1: play there. Throw Ceedee Lamb outside, who had twenty two
Speaker 1: slot reps. Throw him outside. You got Cedric Wilson in
Speaker 1: the slot. You got some positivity. They're interesting because we
Speaker 1: had a lot of conversations about a guy up and
Speaker 1: his what he needs to do to become more versatile,
Speaker 1: right in terms of him being in the slot, and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, his first game out there's
Speaker 1: like you just stay out there, Cedric, come on in. Well,
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you, you know, Amari Cooper did he
Speaker 1: like answer questions for you, like we've your toughness, all
Speaker 1: of those things. We're out running, Like he took over
Speaker 1: the game on Thursday and left no doubt. I mean
Speaker 1: we were I even we entertained the thought of who's
Speaker 1: the alpha doll in this trip? But Hard Cooper came
Speaker 1: out and just let it hang, no question. I mean,
Speaker 1: and I think he was. He put himself out there though,
Speaker 1: right he walked to his own plank. He put it,
Speaker 1: he said, I consider myself to be the best receiver
Speaker 1: in the league. Whoa you say something like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you were on the Yeah, you were walking the plank.
Speaker 1: I mean you got to back that thing up. And
Speaker 1: so I think he put that pressure on himself intentionally.
Speaker 1: Thirteen receptions on seventeen targets one hundred and thirty nine yards.
Speaker 1: He was just on another level on Thursday. All right,
Speaker 1: let's go ahead and go to the phone lines. The
Speaker 1: real Anthony from Florida on the line. What's on your mind?
Speaker 1: Hey guys, how y'all, guys, what's up? Let's go. We're
Speaker 1: gonna do it like this man. Everybody knows that me
Speaker 1: called him the last five years to any show. No,
Speaker 1: I'm number one with that. Dak is my dude. So
Speaker 1: I'm extremely happy with what he did. But I think
Speaker 1: you throw, you know, through too much and they put
Speaker 1: him in positions. Yea, I'm gonna tell you why. Here
Speaker 1: we go Jameis Winston. I think he had twenty attempts,
Speaker 1: five touchdowns. Russell Wilson twenty three attempts, four touchdowns. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you something. That one guy that keep leaving
Speaker 1: out of everything saying he might have lost the step,
Speaker 1: this and that if you don't find better ways to
Speaker 1: get his zek Elliot dette Ball and the ones who
Speaker 1: are saying ZK got it no more lost the step.
Speaker 1: Let zeke go to another tune they will do the
Speaker 1: democuts with because I guarantee he'll go to a pro
Speaker 1: bowler the next two or three years and probably won
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. So get your man in the game.
Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with throwing the ball for fifty eight times.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, let's focus on the run more. Let's
Speaker 1: let's final more opportunities to run the ball. And dan Quinn,
Speaker 1: everything he's brought to this team is gonna bring to
Speaker 1: the team with a few additions and then a few subtractors,
Speaker 1: probably make sure a couple of guys to be gone.
Speaker 1: I'm liking that. So I see the defense being able
Speaker 1: to help our team in the next two years or so.
Speaker 1: In the last point, please Mike McCarthy stop listening to
Speaker 1: the bones Foster anything since he's got here to me,
Speaker 1: Germotic a good kicker. He missed, missed the feuds, But
Speaker 1: don't let a guy who just missed two kicks talk
Speaker 1: you into giving Tom Brady the ball. If you missed
Speaker 1: the sixty yards on the fifty yard line, come on,
Speaker 1: make you take them. Morality of tomb away. So Mike
Speaker 1: McCarty gotta have better coaches decisions. Let's putting much kick on.
Speaker 1: That's my man right there, get into game. I like
Speaker 1: that a lot of things. Thanks so much for the call.
Speaker 1: And yeah, he hit a lot of great points there
Speaker 1: that a lot of Cowboys fans and I know the
Speaker 1: real Anthony is the realist Cowboys fan out. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: but he hit a ton of points there that are
Speaker 1: just kind of rattling through the brain. He said about
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott throwing too much, which I can't disagree with.
Speaker 1: I know that was kind of a part of the
Speaker 1: game plan and what the defense gave them, as we
Speaker 1: talked about on Friday, but five of the six leading
Speaker 1: passers in Week one lost their games in Week one.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know a lot of that has to
Speaker 1: do with throwing the ball late and trying to get
Speaker 1: back into a game in yawda, YadA YadA, But I mean,
Speaker 1: you look at the numbers and that's exactly what it
Speaker 1: says right there. So what did you guys take away
Speaker 1: from that call? And I think that jameis Winston. Uh,
Speaker 1: the analogy is kind of misleading because he only had
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty yards to pass it with five touchdowns,
Speaker 1: which is crazy efficiency efficient. Yeah, this is a crazy
Speaker 1: stat though in itself. But you know, I think that's
Speaker 1: what that's why we opened up with. I think that's
Speaker 1: just where the league is going. And I think for
Speaker 1: people that don't understand that mind state, it's kind of troubling.
Speaker 1: And we abandoned the run in the first quarter. We
Speaker 1: was tied seven seven and we just quit And yeah, boy,
Speaker 1: and a lot of times when people do that, when
Speaker 1: you see teams um stop running, it's because they're behind
Speaker 1: by a lot. It was just the game plan. That's
Speaker 1: just what we were going to do. And obviously if
Speaker 1: it was for the protection with reasons, then okay, that
Speaker 1: makes sense, but goodness, we completely abandon it and ship
Speaker 1: I agree with him. I believe that we were. It
Speaker 1: was frustrating to me because we were running the ball effectively.
Speaker 1: I believe that we were when we went outside. Now
Speaker 1: we knew not to even try to go inside. When
Speaker 1: you were going outside, we were getting the good yardage.
Speaker 1: And you saw the improvement from Zeke. You saw his explosiveness.
Speaker 1: So yes, I agree, you have to find ways to
Speaker 1: get Zeke the ball even if he comes said the
Speaker 1: expense of throwing another you know, a swing route or
Speaker 1: whatever it maybe swing screen. There's a lot of opportunities
Speaker 1: out there for screens. I don't know if anybody else
Speaker 1: saw that, but a lot of opportunities for swings just
Speaker 1: based upon leverage advantages and things of that nature. But
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, he's right. We gotta get We gotta
Speaker 1: get Zeke the ball. And everybody who wants to say
Speaker 1: that Zeke lost something, please, Zeke's gonna break out one
Speaker 1: of these games and everybody's gonna be like, why haven't
Speaker 1: we been giving him the ball? Yeah? For sure? Like no,
Speaker 1: I like, but see that's we do that with Tony
Speaker 1: Pollar too. If we don't, if he doesn't get enough touches.
Speaker 1: And they tried to work him in and then now
Speaker 1: it's it's what you just said about the Zeke. It's
Speaker 1: like part of it is they have so many weapons,
Speaker 1: you know, But I agree with you fifty eight times
Speaker 1: is it's too much and and it wasn't just a
Speaker 1: pure product of playing from behind. They had the lead
Speaker 1: or within a few points in the second half. I thought, Zeke,
Speaker 1: you're right. I thought he looked great. He looked kind
Speaker 1: of slippery, shifty Zeke we saw in preseason and limited snaps.
Speaker 1: But yeah, maybe more screens, maybe he's more off on
Speaker 1: the outside. I don't disagree with the game plan, Like
Speaker 1: I think the matchups were the matchups on the outside
Speaker 1: and their best bet was throwing. But you know, you
Speaker 1: could get it more involved. Do you guys have any
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Speaker 1: You chuckle a little bit there. No, I like the
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Speaker 1: it's a little less like angry, dramatic sounding. Sure, you know,
Speaker 1: and we'll say it with our chest on Friday and
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Speaker 1: that's awesome. Okay, final three minutes bones fossil. You were
Speaker 1: making a point about him prior to the break anyway
Speaker 1: you want to elaborate on it a little, No, I
Speaker 1: just think that you know, we talked about it last week.
Speaker 1: You guys didn't think that the field goal at the
Speaker 1: end of the second quarter was that impactful. I mean,
Speaker 1: you talk about Tom Brady and all the things that
Speaker 1: he does and you leave him with fifteen twenty seconds
Speaker 1: in a period like that, that could be disaster for you.
Speaker 1: Fortunately for us, they didn't have any time out and
Speaker 1: Tom didn't go into his TV twelve magic bag and
Speaker 1: sprinkle some pixie dust on us and score at the
Speaker 1: end of the first half. But that's what that's I mean,
Speaker 1: that's your man, right, that's what he does. And so
Speaker 1: we left a lot out there, and it's just every
Speaker 1: game now has began to be an event of its own,
Speaker 1: like we got a watermelon kick, we got it's just
Speaker 1: just things that are starting to happen. And this is
Speaker 1: I think, this is just who Mike McCarthy is. I mean,
Speaker 1: we got a riverboat run. I don't know what nickname
Speaker 1: we're gonna give coach Mike. So right now, he's just
Speaker 1: he's just doing a lot of things within his scheme
Speaker 1: and dealing with time that I don't think that a
Speaker 1: lot of NFL head coaches would do. And that's been
Speaker 1: his emo. He's been doing it for a while now,
Speaker 1: and at some point it's gonna catch up or it's
Speaker 1: gonna win him a championship. I feel like, you're good.
Speaker 1: I love that reference, but you're you're right. A good
Speaker 1: special teams unit needs to It doesn't have to even
Speaker 1: make plays, it just has to make like it just
Speaker 1: has to d Y Jr. Job. That's the best way
Speaker 1: to saying. It's almost like an umpire in baseball. It's
Speaker 1: like you don't want to remember the umpire's name at
Speaker 1: the end of the baseball game, because that means they
Speaker 1: didn't do their job the right way. It's not glorious.
Speaker 1: You're you're glorified within the special team's room. You're glorified
Speaker 1: within your within your team because those guys understand the
Speaker 1: impact that you have. Right when you go down there
Speaker 1: on kickoff and you tackle those guys within the inside
Speaker 1: the twenty yard line and your offense is coming, you
Speaker 1: know your your your defense is coming out there. You
Speaker 1: give you guys a high five like they understand how
Speaker 1: important it's. It's a thankless job. It's a thankless I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, on the outside it is right unless you
Speaker 1: have a big return or something like that. But interior wise,
Speaker 1: on the team, guys are respected because you understand how
Speaker 1: much of an impact they have on the game. You
Speaker 1: don't field. The possession matters. It freaking matters. Now we
Speaker 1: start talking about somebody these quarterbacks were going up against.
Speaker 1: It matters, right, whether those guys get the ball inside
Speaker 1: the twenty five or whether they get the ball on
Speaker 1: the forty, it matters. It matters. You're saying, bones is
Speaker 1: like Jonah Hill and super Bad. Yes, do it, Mike
Speaker 1: is like Michael Sarah. Yeah, I mean it's um you
Speaker 1: Sillo like Jimmy Brother another great movie. I don't like.
Speaker 1: I don't think Mike just you know, is hearing bones
Speaker 1: in his ear and just saying, oh, yeah, whatever, whatever
Speaker 1: you say. I think Mike is has a tendency to
Speaker 1: be aggressive too and take chance. Like Mike throughout his career,
Speaker 1: going on fourth down, he'll do that, you know. So
Speaker 1: I think they both have that kind of mentality. Um,
Speaker 1: they were so banged up last year that I think
Speaker 1: they they felt like they had to do some of
Speaker 1: that smoke and mirror stuff. I don't. I don't and
Speaker 1: and but John is known for doing that no matter what.
Speaker 1: But I think maybe you can do it a little
Speaker 1: less this year than than last year. We'll see. But yeah,
Speaker 1: the kick before the halftime was surprising. The last play
Speaker 1: of the game. I mean, they ran a special team's play.
Speaker 1: They didn't put Dak out there for the FID you
Speaker 1: see that. So I was a little surprised to talk
Speaker 1: about Michael Parsons snapped the ball, yeah yeah, and late
Speaker 1: Vanderesh was the up back and then who was the
Speaker 1: first one with the carry was a Pollard. Maybe I
Speaker 1: can't remember back it was. It was it was kind
Speaker 1: of Pollard was the quarterback. The quarterback. I guess from
Speaker 1: the distance they were from, they didn't think, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to stretch it with Dak's arm, but
Speaker 1: maybe not. But Dak man m I was surprised by that.
Speaker 1: I was surprised by that. But hey, yeah, we'll talk
Speaker 1: a little bit about that tomorrow. But tomorrow we're gonna
Speaker 1: take a lot of fan calls because we've got an
Speaker 1: extra day of a show before we start previewing the
Speaker 1: Cowboys and the Chargers coming up later this week. So
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a lot of fan calls, have a
Speaker 1: ton of conversation tomorrow. But that's gonna do it for
Speaker 1: us here on this Monday edition of Talking Cowboys Special.
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