WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Bigger Issue? 0:00:06.320 --> 0:00:08.879 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:19.760 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:23.680 screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hewers at the 0:00:23.720 --> 0:00:34.760 Star in Frisco, SAT. And now your hosts Isaiah Stanback, 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:40.279 heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's. It's an 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:45.920 Overreaction Monday edition of Talking Cowboys presented by Tostito's, the 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:50.199 official chip and Dip of the Dallas Cowboys. Here from 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:53.920 the s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star in Frisco. 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:57.440 Alongside Cowboys inside a Rob Phillips are resident Super Bowl 0:00:57.480 --> 0:01:01.360 Champion Isaiah stand Back and the great sultry voice of 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:03.360 heck Ma Harrison. I'm not supposed to say that one, right, 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:06.920 I'm supposed to say professional football analyst heck Ma Harrison. Yes, 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:09.600 I'm Kyle Yomen's. How's it going, everybody? That's good? What 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:11.800 you were shaking your head right there? I'm not gonna 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:15.480 do it today? No? What? Nope? What's that? No? We 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:19.000 said overreaction Monday and I just started going, Nope, not 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:21.759 gonna overreact. That's a good thing. And you know, it's 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:24.600 kind of a great place to be as Cowboys fans 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:26.600 because we've gotten to sleep on it a little bit. 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:29.080 We've gotten to kind of mellow out after the Thursday 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:31.560 lost and marinate to the Yeah that that could be 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:34.680 the other word you could use to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:38.040 But you're right. Overreaction Monday is a thing around the NFL. 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:42.240 We had over overreaction Friday. So this is a this 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:44.960 is a reflection Monday where we still look back at 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:47.080 the Tampa Bay game, but now we get a chance 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:49.920 to look ahead, and unfortunately for the Cowboys, there's a 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:52.240 lot of bumps on the road coming ahead and the 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:55.200 form of injuries and the form of suspensions. And we 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:58.680 will get into all of that coming up here in 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:01.600 a little bit, but let's start things off by taking 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:06.240 a look back at the Week one just in general, Cowboys, 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:08.320 rest of the NFL, rob what stuck out to you 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:12.240 the most from the entire league? Either one I was. 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:14.720 We talked about this on a text message last night, like, 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:18.000 what's the thing? Isaiah had a great idea, what now 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:20.560 that it's marinating, you've had a weekend to marinate, what 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:23.320 stands out in your mind about Week one? And for me, 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:29.400 it's defensively, how did they play? Was it? Was it good? 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:32.280 Was it more like last year? You know, because I 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:33.920 think if you want to tie it up into a 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:35.960 nice little narrative, you could say it kind of felt 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:38.120 like twenty twenty. You know. Offensively, they did a lot 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:40.359 of good things. They scored some points, they piled up yards. 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:43.720 Red zone wasn't great. Special teams did some okay things, 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:47.680 had some some mistakes there. And defensively they gave up 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:50.360 touchdowns and they gave up a key drive at the end. 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:52.120 But you know, going back and looking at it, I 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:54.120 thought I thought it was better. I thought it was 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:56.720 definitely better than what we saw last year. You know, 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:58.360 if you look at what they did in the second 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:01.000 half of that game. Yes, they gave up the field 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:03.600 goal late, but Tampa Bay had five drives. It was 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:08.000 a punt, touchdown, punt, fumble, field goal. That's better. That's 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:10.920 better against the Tom Brady defense. So I'm more encouraged 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:16.760 after spending the weekend marinating. As Isaiah would say, after 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:19.280 the weekend, and not much has changed for me. I'm 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:22.480 still concerned on the offensive side of the ball, in 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:25.080 terms of our ability to throw the ball downfield. I'm 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:28.280 still concerned about Dak and his confidence in his shoulder, 0:03:28.840 --> 0:03:32.440 whether that's mental, whether that's physical. Either way, it had 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:34.520 an effect over our ability to throw the ball down 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:36.280 the field. So we got to figure that out because 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:39.000 I don't believe that we'll be successful as we'd like 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:40.920 to be if we can't have those big plays over 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:43.000 the top and we have the receivers to do it 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:46.080 minus one obviously right now, but we have to be 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:48.839 able to have those big plays down the field. Defensively, 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:51.480 I love the way we flied, we were flying around, 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:53.560 but we have to be able to cover man because 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:55.080 that's what's going to be asked of them. They're going 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:57.760 to be asked to cover, to play man coverage. And 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:00.320 we have another tall task coming up this week on 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:02.320 the outside with some guys are actually a little bit 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:06.119 bigger overall, and then special teams dog on it. Man. 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:08.800 We can't we can't keep giving up returns like this. 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:11.800 We have to get stout on that side of on 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:13.240 that side of things, that's a third of the game. 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:15.600 And I think if anybody never thought about it in 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:18.000 their regard, I think people as probably more starting the 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:20.000 forefront of their minds now, that is a very important 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:21.839 aspect of the game. They don't just let it be 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:23.640 something that you write off and think that your second 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:26.240 stringers just go and play special teams. That is a 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:28.479 very impactful portion and it's something that we have to 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:30.160 dominate if we want to be in position to win 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:34.080 ball games. Well, I mean, I got I gotta what 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:37.359 four good days asleep and still woke up with the 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:40.200 same worries. But some of them I think I've subsided 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:42.360 a little bit. Really, it was good to see Trey 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:46.520 Von Diggs actually dominate a top tier wide receiver and 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:49.679 seeing him take those steps, I think everybody in Cowboys Nation, 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:51.960 can you know, kind of rest your head on the 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:57.240 fact that we have that cute that's quarterback one. Now, 0:04:57.279 --> 0:04:59.400 will he travel? Will some of those things happen? Because 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:01.040 you know, if you can do that in your defense, 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:04.520 that really allows Quinn to be very creative with what 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:08.559 he does. But man also bones fossil the special team 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:10.640 was I think that's one of the things that it's 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:12.839 going to come back to revisit and bite you again 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:15.920 because you're gonna have to be able to cover special 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:18.040 teams the way that Mickens was able to get them 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:21.600 in favorable field position. I think that's you cannot do 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:23.560 that and bones Fossil as a coach. I think we've 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:26.039 made so much of him and what he's done. I 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:28.279 think you have to come back and revisit that, especially 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:31.320 when the special team group has the words that they have. 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:34.400 But Kella Moore's offense, I mean, after watching so much 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:37.279 football this weekend, I just recognized that football has changed. 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:40.839 It's a passing league. We watched NFL yesterday and not 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:43.520 a whole bunch of runs. I mean the running backs. 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:47.640 I'm talking about running backs, yeah are It's being cut 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:50.080 out and there's just throwing it all over the park. 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:53.320 And I think the Booe Eagles were the only team 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:57.080 to actually have a running back with twenty five plus Russians. 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:58.440 And I could be wrong in that. I'm sure they're 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:01.800 gonna fact check me. Still, I just feel like the 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:04.840 whole league is changing. And you know, look, I do 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:06.560 not doubt that Kelly Moore is going to end up 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:09.119 being a head coach in the NFL or at some point, 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:11.839 but just man, I think that this offense was in 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:14.440 the college, it would be explosive. I would want to 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:16.960 play in this kind of offense. Because he's starting it 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:20.240 all over, but defensively, just the last thing is, you know, 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:23.440 look they still put up thirty points, and it's kind 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:26.160 of hard to say, you know, look that was there's 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:28.360 marked improvements, but at the same time, there was thirty 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:30.359 points put up against the defense. But there are some 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:32.440 things that you can hang your hat on and it's 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:34.720 probably at the front line that you feel good about. No, 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:36.800 I completely agree with you. And by the way, in 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:39.919 terms of in terms of rushing around the league. In 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:43.279 the AFC, there were only three one hundred yard rushers 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:45.440 and there are three guys that you wouldn't have expect 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:50.080 expected Joe Mixon, Melvin Gorman, Gordon and then Damien Harris. 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:52.080 And the NFC there are only two and that was 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:55.279 Elijah Mitchell and David Montgomery. So not a lot of 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:58.120 running backs had success Week one. So you're right, if 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:00.480 that's what you're basing the success of this offfense on, 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:03.880 maybe think again, don't necessarily think that's the case. But 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:05.800 I want to kind of go back the other direction. Now, 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:09.200 if you had to rank the three UNIX units offense, 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:13.400 defense special teams from last Thursday, what would you rank them? 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:20.480 One through three? One through three? That's tough. I'll go 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:26.080 if you want, I'll go offense, defense, special teams. Okay, 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:29.280 you know, special teams. I think we've talked about it 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:31.840 whole body of work last year, probably the best unit 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:35.560 they had butcher on Thursday, most consistent, most consistent. But 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:39.080 on Thursday night they gave up a big kickoff return, 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:43.680 a couple penalties, and multiple punt right. Yeah. Yeah, and 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:47.280 Greg's airline missed two big kicks or you know, an 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:49.000 extra point and field goal that costs them the game. 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:52.240 So three kicks when you think about it, so two 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:53.880 field goal attempts. So you know that was that was 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:56.200 a tough night for the special teams. Yeah, I agree 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:57.800 with rot pe E exactly, an order I was going 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:01.000 to utilize. UM. I think offense stepped up. Even though 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:03.000 we didn't take advantage of some of the opportunities we had, 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:05.600 we still were pretty consistent for the most part. We 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:09.720 abandoned the run when we just talked about that. UM. Defensively, Uh, 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:12.040 these guys they're flying around. I think we talked about 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:13.960 it last week in terms of us actually having a culture. 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:16.320 Now we have an identity. So that's something we've talked 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:19.520 about extensively over the past, you know, summer. So that's 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:22.200 encouraging to see, but again we have to man up. 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:24.480 We got we gotta be getting these guys facing guards 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:26.320 some dudes, and it's hard in this league. But guess what, 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:28.480 that's what you got and that's what you're paid to do. 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:31.720 And then Special Teams, I mean, shoot, I mean that's 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:34.520 just effort. That's really just effort. I mean, I don't 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:37.400 I don't believe that coach Fossil was drawing up plays 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:39.800 that put us at a disadvantage of Special Teams. So 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:42.920 it really just comes down to executing and and understand 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:45.200 its film study, right, understanding what are these teams trying 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:47.160 to do? Now? Obviously week one, it's kind of hard 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:48.480 to do film study because you don't know what the 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:51.400 heck they're gonna do. But as as a Special Teams player, 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:53.600 you have to be high alert, you have to communicate. UM, 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:56.839 it takes a lot Special Teams. It's probably more demanding 0:08:57.440 --> 0:09:00.680 um mentally than offensive defense, to be honest with you, 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:02.560 because you have to be aware of so much. You 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:04.200 have to be aware of the other guys around you, 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:07.720 and there's their schemes directly against you. UM. Depending off 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:10.280 your impact putting a player tackler, disruptor or things of 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:12.320 that nature. So there's a lot more moving parts and 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:13.960 you have to be a lot more versatile as a 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:16.839 player if you're playing special teams. And you know, you 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:20.640 have to also think about Noah Brown's absence, absolutely and 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:23.160 maybe you know that that wasn't this don't want to 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:25.880 magnify that, but again it may have been something that 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:28.320 made a difference on special teams as well. But one, two, 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:31.000 and three being offense defensive special teams, I think is 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:34.160 just makes sense. And yeah, you hope the kicking situation 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:36.800 does not carry over. No, I don't think so, man. 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:38.880 I mean I don't think so either. But I mean 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:42.280 we've seen it here where it's snowballs. You know, if 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:44.400 a guy has a bad game, and but I don't 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:46.320 know if they've had they the last time they had 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:48.360 a kicker this accomplished it was it was Dan Bailey. 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:50.280 We saw it eventually with Dan Bailey. A lot of 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:56.280 stuff's mental, But I'm chalking it up to Russ. Yeah. Remember, yeah, 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:59.120 the last kick was was dead center. And but you know, 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:01.000 Jerry on the fan, he was talking about how we 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:04.120 probably were kidding ourselves to think that you know, he's 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:07.160 not gonna kick basically all preseason until the last game 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:08.800 he gets one field goal attempt in there, and he 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:11.880 was just gonna beat Greg's airline all but admitted that 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:14.760 that was on the coaches pretty much. Jerry pretty much 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:19.440 says everything. Yeah, just a tiny bit actually saying that, Yeah, totally. Yeah, 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:22.960 And you're trusting you're trusting John Fossil's relationship that the 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:25.719 history coaching Greg's airline. I don't think it's going to 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:28.240 be a problem over the course, but I think they're 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:30.880 playing a good team this Sunday. So you hope it 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:33.120 doesn't come down to a kick or two here like 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:35.240 it down Thursday night. But you've got to you've got 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:37.160 to depend on this guy that if it does come 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:39.040 down to a kick or two, that he can actually 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:41.920 do it for you. Yeah. I have him, Yeah, yeah, 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:45.200 I mean before Thursday night. I tweeted this out on Friday, 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:49.400 but him as the Cowboys kicker before Thursday, kicks inside 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:52.600 forty yards, he was nineteen of nineteen kicks inside fifty yards, 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:55.160 he was thirty one of thirty two, so six of 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:58.120 the seven kicks he missed last year were beyond fifty yards. 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:01.320 Which are hit or miss regardless. I'm sure you would 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:03.520 like him to hit it because his nickname is Greg 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:06.040 the Leg, but you want him to be more automatic. 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:08.800 I mean, that was the problem prior to Greg Zirline 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:11.400 was the automatic side of things between thirty and fifty 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:14.560 yards that if you're in field goal range quote unquote 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:17.000 field goal range, that you're gonna make it. And he 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:19.720 didn't do that on Thursday. That was the Brett Maher thing. 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:22.560 If Brett Maher kicks from fifty five two years ago, 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:24.280 you're like, man, that was a great kick, and then 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:26.480 it's thirty five and you're like, you're holding your breath. 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:29.720 You know, that's not Greg's Airline's history. So that's definitely yeah. 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:31.840 So I think we're I think we'll feel a little 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:34.880 bit more comfortable about Greg Zirline than Brett Maher. So 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:37.719 we've got a couple guys out, which one do we 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:39.199 want to start with. We're gonna start with a wide 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:42.560 receiver or the offensive tackle because both of them are big. 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:45.400 I think we're gonna start with the offensive tackle and 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:47.600 we're gonna go into that. Well, we'll take this into 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:51.439 the second segment as well. But Rob Lyle Collins now 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:58.319 suspended five games by the NFL for substance abuse. Yes, 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:01.120 infractions is the best way to say it. Their violation 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:03.960 of the policy. There you go. So he is unable 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:07.760 to return until after the week's sixth game against New England. Correct, 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:10.920 he'll be Yeah, he'll be ready to get back into 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:14.760 everything the monday after. Goodness gracious, So out five weeks 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:17.400 you don't have your right tackle who you didn't have 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:19.800 all of twenty twenty, and we saw exactly how that 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:23.600 panned out. What's the biggest thing on your mind now 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:29.520 about not having Lyle Collins best five is that It's 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:31.360 kind of why I wanted to ask it that way, 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:33.520 is are we going basketball here? Like? Is it? How 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:35.960 are they gonna how are they gonna address this thing? 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:39.079 And I'm curious what you guys think because I've kind 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:40.839 of been saying it, but I don't know if Mike 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:44.480 McCarthy's actually gonna do what he finally did last year, 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:48.920 and that's change out two spots. Well, my question is 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:51.400 how soon did the team know that there was a 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:53.880 suspension coming down? I mean, I think that they knew 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:58.640 right right, and yeah, if they just a little bit, 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:00.880 you know, I don't think they were blindsided by it. 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:03.040 And you know, when you look at the fifty three, 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:05.880 what they what they ultimately did, maybe it wasn't a 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:08.560 coincidence that they kept Tiniseki and Terrence Steele. I didn't 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:11.319 think much of it because you know, Terrence Steele is 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:14.400 kind of the developmental young guy and ni sekis the 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:17.560 experienced guy. But they did keep some extra depth there. Yeah, 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:21.080 I mean, that's that's my thing about Layl is when 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:24.000 did they find out Um? And you know, were there 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:26.720 any additional moves on the table to cover the team? 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:30.800 Tiniscki in the in the preseason has just looked slow 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:34.160 to me. Um, but he's a little bit better than 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:37.440 than Steel and that's really not saying a whole lot. 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:40.920 And you say that, but you think about Dak and 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:43.600 his development and what he did last week and going 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:46.640 into this game this week, Well, you got a boast 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:48.560 a brother on the other side of you that's going 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:50.760 to become and and you're gonna well, I think the 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:52.480 one thing you have to do is get him help, right, 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:54.560 But you know that this guy is going to be 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:58.040 directly in Dak's vision, So how do they make that work? 0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:00.120 And when you talk about best five. I felt like 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:03.120 the offense got flowing so much better in the running 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:06.560 game once we converted Zach Martin out to tackle. But 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:09.360 based off of everything that I'm here and Zach doesn't 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:12.839 want to go out to tackle, so which would be 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:15.760 I guess after seeing McGovern last week, you would think, Okay, 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:18.400 put mcgovernor at right tackle, Zach out to you excuse me, 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:21.400 mc goovernor at right guard, Zach out to right tackle. Um, 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:24.720 you know, let's just see how these things developed, because obviously, 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:27.720 if you get down by too much in this this 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:31.120 second game, or you know, it carries over to the 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:33.520 next week versus Philadelphia, you're gonna have to make some 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:35.800 moves to shore up the offensive line because right now, 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:38.520 I don't think there's a lot of confidence there. I 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:42.520 don't like it. I don't like it at all, you know, 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:46.080 and I want to I almost want to say, hey, 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:49.640 let's just use Martin as you would use a corner 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:51.760 right so, you know, just the same way we're saying, hey, 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:53.480 tray Bard, you might have to you might have to follow, 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:56.360 you know, the best receiver around. You know, you know, Zach, 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:57.960 you might we might have to put you at guard 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:00.000 one day and put you out right tackle the next 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:02.080 you know, just just based upon the biggest threat, and 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:04.840 obviously going into this week, the biggest threat is dog 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:07.080 on the bussa boy. Yeah, right, and and he already 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:09.040 has a sack in the forest fumble, so we might 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:11.480 want to consider putting him out there, even though that's 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:13.120 not really where he wants to be. We know he's 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:15.040 a team player, we know he's one of the best 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:19.600 guards ever. But where do we need you most tackle? 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:21.400 And I think that's where what we might have to do. 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:23.200 That's the approach I would take. But my name is 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:26.080 not coach Field. That's where I'm at, man like. And 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:28.600 you know, you say he's a team player, he'll do 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:31.840 whatever needs to be done. But you know, I get 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:35.280 the hesitancy because you don't. There's no position that relies 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:38.320 more on chemistry than the line, and so you're switching 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:42.760 out three of the five spots that that chicks. Yeah 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:45.760 it does, um And I know somebody threw out to 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:47.920 us in the mail back today, watch put Connor Williams 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:51.400 at at at right tackle and keep Zach at right guard, 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:54.400 keep him happy, and then Connor McGovern, they've said, is 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:57.440 much better more more comfortable at right guard. So the 0:15:57.520 --> 0:15:59.280 question is, did he play well enough to make you 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:01.320 feel like, well, best five, Let's keep him in the 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:04.640 lineup and and kick maybe kick Zack out the right tackle. 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:07.920 Mike just seems hesitant and publicly to do that. I mean, 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:11.080 he said even Friday, like, I'd like to continue doing what, 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:13.360 you know, working with the guys we've been working at tackle. 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:16.400 So I don't I don't foresee us doing it. That's 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:18.160 I think that's what we're all suggesting, and I think 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:20.840 that's what we will all do, But I don't foresee 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:23.120 us doing it, especially after this first game, seeing how 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:25.560 much too tight we used. We used a lot of 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:27.680 too tight, a lot of twelve personnel, and I think 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:29.720 that we had to and I think we're gonna have 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:31.440 to again, you know what I'm saying. I mean, I 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:32.960 think you're gonna have to again. You know, I'm putting 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:35.000 up having a tight end, you know, with his hand 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:36.640 in the ground, and another tight end in the wing 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:38.960 set um, you know, right in his hip pocket, just 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:42.040 to kind of disturb, you know, and disrupt what Bosa 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:43.800 is gonna try to do to us. I mean, because 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:46.280 he's a beast, you know, even I mean, even even 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:47.920 if Lyol was playing, he still would have had his 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:50.400 hands full with dog On Bosa. But I think you 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:52.880 trust Lyle much more than you ever. Yeah, no, no, 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:54.760 not even. And this is and I'm saying that's obvious 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:57.640 that I'm saying that. But also I think it limits 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:00.920 Ezekiel Elliott also in our offense again, because he's gonna 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:02.680 have to stay at home, he's gonna have to chip 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:08.320 on Bosa basically stay stay home to protect dak So 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:12.560 from somebody who's been in contract negotiations and a locker 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:16.320 room and switched positions back and forth. How much is 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:19.360 it kind of a taboo thing to switch a position 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:21.639 like that? Even as simple as it is to say, hey, 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:24.840 let's swing Zack Martin out the tackle, it's not that 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:27.560 easy from a contract standpoint. I mean, Zach Martin in 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:30.560 terms of average salary per year, it's the fourth highest 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:32.720 paid guard in the league with fourteen million a year, 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:35.320 fourth highest paid guard in the league. If you would 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:37.720 have switched permanently the tackle and that would be the 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:41.000 same contract, he'd be twenty first in terms of highest 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:43.439 paid tackles in the league. So you think about the 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:46.080 contract disparity. You saw it with Peters in Philadelphia a 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:48.320 couple of years ago when he made the permanent switched 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:50.359 to tackle. He said, give my money, where's my money? 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:53.200 I'm playing tackle now, more demanding role. So I know 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:55.840 what's for five weeks and a lot of the times 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:58.960 there's there's coaches having conversations and saying, hey, we need 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:01.240 you to do what's best for the team. Sure, but 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:03.879 with this guy like Zach Martin, with the pedigree that 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:06.560 he has and the value that he obviously has for 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:10.800 your organization, is it worth disgruntling him from that? It's 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:15.040 a it's a great point. And maybe just maybe you're 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:16.600 just going to have a big maybe question mark big. 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:18.840 Maybe we did free up a lot of cap space 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:21.600 here over the past few weeks, so being that they 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:24.200 might have known this is coming down, being that you 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:26.280 just brought that point up, maybe they created us in 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:28.720 space to be able to give him a little to 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:30.800 give a little love tap because they knew that they 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:32.760 might have to make this move. That's a big maybe. Yeah. 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:35.119 But there there is money there should we have to, 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:37.640 you know, take care of that. I mean, you bring 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:40.520 up a good point, Kyle, and just going from where 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:43.480 he is pay scale wise going out and you would 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:45.439 now be the twenty first guy. And this is a 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:49.359 temporary situation. And just like Zach Misson last week, we 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:52.120 realized it was a temporary situation. So him coming back, 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:54.119 we all were like, yes, and then we get the 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:57.000 noodles of Layelle. No, we don't want to have to 0:18:57.040 --> 0:18:59.320 deal with this weekend and week out. I'm just speaking 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:01.600 from a stand point of Once he did make the 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:04.800 move to tackle, our running games seemed to flourish a 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:07.119 little bit more. We were able to do a lot 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:09.840