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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And we are back.

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Speaker 3: I'm Dale Lolli he is the Matt Williamson and starting

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Speaker 3: off our number two here, it is time for the

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Speaker 3: Fantasy football focus.

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Speaker 2: And what we do here on Tuesdays if we.

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Speaker 3: Look at the waiver wire, then we take a look

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Speaker 3: ahead at the schedule. Yeah, to see what defenses, who's

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Speaker 3: playing who and who might be a good streamer defense.

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Speaker 3: That kind of stuff gives you a little look at

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Speaker 3: the next week's schedules.

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Speaker 2: What about that time of the week we started thinking

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Speaker 2: about we do. Yeah, you get one day to celebrate

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Speaker 2: that about it and then it's moving on. Get back

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Speaker 2: to the dryand twenty four hour rule.

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Speaker 3: So running back this week, and I know in our league, man,

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Speaker 3: there is nothing available.

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Speaker 2: You said it perfectly just a minute ago before we record,

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Speaker 2: like collectively we drafted quite well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know there's junk out there.

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Speaker 2: Mason was on there from last night or I mean

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Speaker 2: were hit pretty hard.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So, uh, the number one running back here, I'm

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Speaker 3: looking at fantasypros dot com in terms of uh, and

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Speaker 3: they look at how the how many of these guys

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Speaker 3: are rostered in Yahoo and ESPN leagues.

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Speaker 2: And folks, so you're nude? Did we do this every Tuesday?

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Speaker 2: Sometimes we're gonna bring up names like that guy's no

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Speaker 2: chance in my league? Well, every league are different, this one. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 2: So the number one running back here is JK. Dobbins.

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Speaker 3: He's rostered in forty nine percent of leagues.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so he fits he fits right right, and

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Speaker 2: I would I would put in a lot for him, right, yeah,

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Speaker 2: if he still he looks like the he looks like

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Speaker 2: the guy they're gonna run the wall. Yeah. Uh.

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Speaker 3: And they played Carolina this week. But Jack Brown just

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Speaker 3: went on, just went on, ir I think such Chicago

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Speaker 3: plays Carolina.

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Speaker 2: No, that was the Chargers.

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Speaker 3: Chargers play CAROLINAA yeah, run all over Yeah, they're gonna

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Speaker 3: run all over them. H Mason, Jordan Mason, who you

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Speaker 3: just mentioned, rostered in forty nine percent of leagues.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like there's a good chance to get in at

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Speaker 2: least another week out of them. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't spend the fab unless I'm the McCaffrey owner.

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Speaker 3: So you really would like to have you should have

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Speaker 3: already had him though.

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Speaker 2: You should have.

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Speaker 3: You should have, especially knowing that McCaffrey was going into

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Speaker 3: the season already.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't he didn't get injured.

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Speaker 3: This wasn't a surprise.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no. This is lingering from last year his

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Speaker 2: calf injury.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Zach Charbonay rostered in forty seven percent of leagues.

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Speaker 2: One of the best handcuffs out there.

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Speaker 3: Kenneth Walker has an abdominal injury. Charbon Ay was questionable

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Speaker 3: in Week one, but he did get ten touches. If

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Speaker 3: Walker can't play, Charbona gets a nice big bump. They

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Speaker 3: play New England this week.

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Speaker 2: Though, Okay, but no, he should be in pretty much

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Speaker 2: every lee. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Julia McLaughlin rostered in thirty eight percent of leagues. They,

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Speaker 3: of course, will play the Steelers this week. He's with Denver.

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Speaker 2: I'd have a hard time starting him this week, but

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Speaker 2: he got more early down usage than I would have thought.

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Speaker 3: He caught five passes as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they always throw the backs.

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Speaker 3: It went for one yard.

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Speaker 2: There's that. But PPR that's five points, right, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Five point one point. That's the cheapest five point one

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Speaker 3: points you'll ever get.

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Speaker 2: The least productive in NFL history. For it.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, Jalen Wright only rostered in twenty one.

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Speaker 2: So everyone gave Wilson such a hard time for throwing

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Speaker 3: Maybe it ain't him.

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Speaker 2: You should go watch the next tape. Oh yuck.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they averaged I mentioned this yesterday. Five point

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Speaker 3: one yards per reception as a team.

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Speaker 2: I know, it's bonkers. It's hard to believe.

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Speaker 3: Hard too. Yeah, those are the catches. It was three

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Speaker 3: point three yards per.

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Speaker 2: Attempt per attempt, Yeah, yuck, it's awful.

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Speaker 3: Jalen Wright only rostered in twenty one percent of leagues.

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Speaker 2: So I just got a blurb a minute ago. A

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Speaker 2: chan and Moster didn't participate today. They played Thursday, play Thursday. Yeah, so.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe he's only rostered in twenty one percent

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Speaker 3: of the league, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, especially as explosives that offense roster in our league.

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Speaker 2: I mean even if one of those two misses, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's a borderline starter to me.

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Speaker 3: You probably bump Jeff Wilson up a little bit too.

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Speaker 2: I think you got touches in that game too. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm and he'll be the banger, he'll be

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Speaker 3: the goal linebacker soon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so and even if those guys play,

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind having the rookie no right should be

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Speaker 2: in leagues.

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Speaker 3: Uh ty, Chandler only rostered in thirty three percent of leagues.

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Speaker 2: He got a little bit of the garbage time work.

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Speaker 2: It's a little bit misleading, but he's a good player.

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Speaker 2: And Aaron Jones is never gonna be a bellcow.

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Speaker 3: No, yeah, I mean you know I just mentioned Wilson.

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Speaker 3: Jeff Wilson only rostered in twenty one percent of leagues.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so not a bad no right, right, a piece

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Speaker 2: of a good offense, and you know, mostered in a

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Speaker 2: chant of not Ben Pillar's the health throughout their careers either.

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Speaker 3: Justice Hills rostered in four percent of leagues. He's the

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Speaker 3: clear backup and he's the third down back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And game script isn't always going to favor that with Baltimore,

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Speaker 3: but he did last week and he caught six balls.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, I mean, so that in itself has value. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And frankly, Raven's running backs are better than they should

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Speaker 2: be because of Lamar. Because of Lamar.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Alexander Madison rostered and four percent of leagues doesn't

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Speaker 2: He can't get on board with that. He was the

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Speaker 2: receiving back. But basically all he did was hurt White.

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Speaker 2: I don't know he helped himself much, but he hurt White.

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Speaker 3: Emmanuel Wilson was to back up this week or this

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Speaker 3: past week in Green Bay. In Green Bay, he's rostered

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Speaker 3: in two percent of leagues.

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Speaker 2: And everyone watched. He had a couple of nice runs.

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Speaker 3: But marshng wloy, he's going to be back a song.

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Speaker 2: He's going to go past him. Yeah yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you're the Jacob's owner, fine, maybe pick him up

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Speaker 2: don't want to play him this week. No love out.

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Speaker 2: That offense isn't anything.

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Speaker 3: They're not going to do anything.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Tank Bigsby Rosspert rostered in five percent of leagues.

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Speaker 2: I think he's I'd have him over a lot of

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Speaker 2: these names just mentioned.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he'd be in leagues.

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Speaker 2: He looks good too, you know. Yeah. Uh.

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Speaker 3: Wide receiver Brandon Cooks rostered in thirty two percent of leagues.

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Speaker 2: He's just boring, but he's steady. Yeah. Maybe borderlines to

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Speaker 2: me when we're not that far from bye weeks and

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Speaker 2: injuries run the football.

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Speaker 3: We talked about him a lot.

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Speaker 2: We drafted him a lot in mock dress. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 2: just people are sick of him.

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Speaker 3: DeMarcus Robinson rostered in six percent of leagues.

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Speaker 2: Whok, the coup is out.

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Speaker 3: As I mentioned earlier.

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Speaker 2: He's a two. Yeah, he's gonna probably be the number

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Speaker 2: two target guy, Coop. Now the problem is is Cooper Cup,

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Speaker 2: he has every target. Every target is like a forty

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Speaker 2: and most of them are like extended handoffs. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but he looks as good as I mean, Yeah, nobody

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Speaker 2: got a bigger bumping. Like if we've had a draft today,

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Speaker 2: Cooper Cup might go around two. Yeah. I mean, he

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Speaker 2: looks good and he's in a phenomenal situation right now.

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Speaker 2: But Robinson should probably be an all leagues. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Andre Yasivas with Cincinnati rostered in thirteen percent of the leagues.

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Speaker 3: He started opposite Jamar Chase. With T Higgins out, technically

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Speaker 2: I guess he is, and Burton's looming, but it's his

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Speaker 2: job as the three. I haven't heard Higgins out of

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Speaker 2: extended stretch, no, nor have I, and I don't know

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Speaker 2: he's all that great.

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Speaker 3: I mean, but if I had Chase or Higgins, maybe

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Speaker 3: I go in the direction. But I'm not all fired.

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Speaker 2: My team would be in pretty bad shape if I

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Speaker 2: check that box Sunday morning, you know what I mean. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's even hard to picture that world. One of my

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Speaker 2: personal favorites up next year.

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Speaker 3: They just love the name. Greg Dortch rostered in five percent.

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Speaker 2: Of leagues, the Human dors.

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Speaker 3: He had forty seven receiving yards last week.

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Speaker 2: They took they use him. They took Harrison out of

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Speaker 2: the game. He didn't hardly use it all. Like if

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Speaker 2: he was a Steeler, you'd like him. You know, he's

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Speaker 2: a slot He's tough, you know, I mean, moves the chains.

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Speaker 3: They play the Rams Lions in Washington in their next

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Speaker 2: Any bad. Yeah, so it's a good offense, Yeah, Human

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Speaker 3: Dell Robinson rustered in ten percent of leagues. He got

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Speaker 3: a million dollars twelve targets last week. He's a better

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Speaker 3: player than people realized too. Like, I think he's a

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Speaker 3: true slot machine Welker type guy, and that fits what

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Speaker 3: they do. Doesn't go for any yards at all.

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Speaker 2: Oh, he's got fifty yards on ten targets. But if

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Speaker 2: you need a bye week filler. And if he's not,

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Speaker 2: if it's not PPR, don't even worry about him.

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Speaker 3: Tyler Johnson for the Rams rostered in no zero percent.

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Speaker 3: I bet we talked about that yesterday.

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Speaker 2: He has some traits.

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Speaker 3: He had like seventy nine yards or whatever it was.

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Speaker 3: He got sixty eight of it on one catch. So

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Speaker 3: and I assume he's now going to be the three. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and they'll play a lot and he's got trades. But

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Speaker 3: that might be the best game of his career. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I need to see another week or two of that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Alec Pierce rostered in two percent of leagues. No, thank you?

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Speaker 2: Hey a big play? Yeah all right, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 3: Just can't get on board with that.

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Speaker 2: Now. I think Mitchell make him obsolete somehow.

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Speaker 3: Jakobe Myers is only roustered in forty eight percent of leagues.

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Speaker 2: Do you do much this past week? It was a

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Speaker 2: very Bowers central centric passing game, sixty one scoreless, receiving

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Speaker 2: yards sixty one yards. Yeah, yeah, Like he is not

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Speaker 2: a bad football player. He should be in Lakes. It's

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Speaker 2: a sort of a side note, but we've brought him

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Speaker 2: up for Steeler interest. Yeah, I feel like you could

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Speaker 2: get him cheaper than ever. Right now. You know, if

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Speaker 2: you're a Steelers, they're going to use Bowers, They're going

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Speaker 2: to use Adams. Yeah, he's kind of a Mayor's on

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Speaker 2: the field Ton. Yeah, but he just saw the player.

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Speaker 3: Josh Reynolds with the Broncos.

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Speaker 2: We'll see him this week.

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Speaker 3: He's rostered him one of leagues now. Mims and he's

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Speaker 3: a long, angular type dude. Mims and Franklin of they

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Speaker 3: don't do anything. No, they don't see the field. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: the guy. There's a third guy that I've never heard of.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned his name yesterday, Veyle, Yeah, something like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: quarterback Baker Mayfield rostered in thirty four percent of the leagues.

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Speaker 2: It's good. I mean he threw a bunch of touchdowns

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Speaker 2: and he looked good and he's got good weapons.

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Speaker 3: They have Detroit this week, then they're Denver in Philadelphia

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Speaker 3: at home.

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Speaker 2: Okay. So I mean I guess if you have love

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Speaker 2: it makes sense.

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Speaker 3: I wish he was available in our league.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see that. I don't I don't see

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Speaker 2: a high ceiling though, I mean, he's never gonna be

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Speaker 2: a lot of a run much of a runner.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, justin fields. Rostered in fourteen percent of leagues.

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Speaker 2: If you get word, he I mean, I could understand

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Speaker 2: putting in for him right now. Yeah, yeah, especially in

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Speaker 2: deeper leagues, or it'll be a bottom of your rosters

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Speaker 2: junk and or you have love and yeah yeah yeah right,

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Speaker 2: I mean because he starts.

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Speaker 3: The potential is there for him to be a top

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Speaker 3: ten quarterback. Yeah, if he runs, you know, like ten

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Speaker 3: or more times, well right, more than likely if he

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Speaker 3: goes ten or more times, he's going to have fifty

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Speaker 3: or sixty or seventy yards.

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Speaker 2: His fantasy point production was very fluky for how he

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Speaker 2: was used. Yeah, flukeually bad. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Derek Carr only rostered in ten percent of leagues.

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Speaker 2: Side note, I bet the Steelers score touchdowns? We do.

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Speaker 3: I think they do.

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Speaker 2: I have something to do with it.

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Speaker 3: Here's the problem with rostering Derek Carr. Right now, This

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Speaker 3: week they're at Dallas.

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Speaker 2: That's not great with that line.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, next week they're at Philadelphi. You I don't think

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Speaker 3: that's much different, right right, and then they're at Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's not great and maybe you have them

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Speaker 2: dangle them for a Yeah, the love owner.

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Speaker 3: Gino Smith rostered in thirty two percent of leagues.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of like Baker. I mean, he's good, he's

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Speaker 2: not gonna run much.

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Speaker 3: Problem is they have New England this They're at New

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Speaker 3: England this week.

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Speaker 2: We'll just spread that.

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Speaker 3: Not a great cross country like that, Yeah, not a

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Speaker 3: great matchup. Then he gets Miami in Detroit, so Gino

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Speaker 3: Smith probably a better option probably moving forward than what

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Speaker 3: he is this week.

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Speaker 2: You can see garbage time against Miami and Detroit too. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Uh. Sam Darnold rostered in ten percent of leagues. Again,

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Speaker 3: the problem is he plays San Francisco this week.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know the upcoming schedule for these guys

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Speaker 2: at all.

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Speaker 3: And he gets Houston and Green Bay, so better days ahead,

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Speaker 3: but not this week.

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Speaker 2: I'm not exactly sold that he's out of the woods.

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Speaker 2: And but he did did a good week.

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Speaker 3: He was ten for you know, he was going to

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Speaker 3: justin Jefferson like I know where my my bread is

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Speaker 3: buttered at. I'm gonna go that.

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Speaker 2: And the ball time the fourth quarter, I mean he

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Speaker 2: could have thrown more.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, tight end. Isaiah likely rostered in twenty eight percent

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Speaker 3: of the leagues.

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Speaker 2: So how about this. I mean he's like the only

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Speaker 2: Fantasy tight end that did well this week. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean across the board, McBride, I mean, this is a

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Speaker 2: bad Fantasy tight end week. I do think he's unlike

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Speaker 2: like every other It should be up and down for sure,

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Speaker 2: But I don't think he'll leave the field much. No,

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Speaker 2: he's out there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's one of the reasons I consider drafting him.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm like, how much are they going to

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Speaker 3: throw the ball? And he's most of going to go

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Speaker 3: to Mark Andrews.

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Speaker 2: Like, I'm not using twenty percent of my fab because

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Speaker 2: I drafted Pits or Najoku or somebody that you weren't

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Speaker 2: happy with or Goddard or whoever and think he's the answer.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that I do. He might if he

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Speaker 2: had Najoku, because because he's out for it's a bad example.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking about it, like the if you waited

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Speaker 2: on tight end and you weren't thrilled with him when

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Speaker 2: you took him, and then they had a down week,

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Speaker 2: as all tight ends did, I wouldn't look at likely

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Speaker 2: like my problem solved.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Tucker Craft rostered in two percent of leagues.

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Speaker 2: He's well ahead of Musgrave.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean the last few weeks are gonna

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Speaker 3: be garbage.

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Speaker 2: I can't start the receivers this week, no, I mean,

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Speaker 2: who are much clearer than I think.

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Speaker 3: The only packer you can start is Josh Jacobs. And

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Speaker 3: then now you're hoping.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's a run eight man boxes too night

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Speaker 2: maybe nine? Uh?

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Speaker 3: Kolbe Parkinson roustered in six percent of the leagues. He's

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Speaker 3: clearly clearly interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the coup of injury helps him, helps him,

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Speaker 2: no doubt, and he was kind of a sleeper to

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Speaker 2: begin with.

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Speaker 3: He's with the Rams, yea, yeah, Yeah. Tyler Conklin rostered

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Speaker 3: in twenty percent of leagues.

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Speaker 2: I mean, watching that game last night, I thought the

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Speaker 2: Jetsy's somebody else to catch the ball or to give

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Speaker 2: the ball to. I mean, Hall and Wilson are really,

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Speaker 2: really good players, but Mike Williams is a shell of

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Speaker 2: himself in terms of for nine plays nine plays, I mean, like,

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Speaker 2: so could it be Conklin? Maybe maybe I'm gonna play

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Speaker 2: the Niners every week?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Looking at this week's schedule. Thursday night, we have

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Speaker 3: Buffalo at Miami.

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Speaker 2: We talked about defenses here. Yeah, I think no and.

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Speaker 3: No, yeah I do. I do like that for Buffalo

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Speaker 3: in the fact that's an eight to fifteen game. Won't

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Speaker 3: be quite as hot for them, right.

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Speaker 2: Oh it's in Miami. Yeah, okay, Yeah, that's not great,

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Speaker 2: but I think there's points in that game. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The Raiders are at the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: I'm fine with the Ravens. Yeah, but they're probably in

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Speaker 2: the league. Yeah, I don't think I'm excited about the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: Chargers are at Carolina.

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Speaker 2: That's a good streamer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good streamer of the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: Saints back and Boso were healthy and looking good. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I know we're hard on the Chargers, but

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Speaker 2: give them credit with with what they did.

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Speaker 3: Saints are at Dallas. You can't start to Dallas or

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Speaker 3: Saints defense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I streamed them last week in the league and

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Speaker 2: that was nice, But I think you dump them now.

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Speaker 3: Buccaneers are at Lions. Well, you're streaming week with the

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Speaker 3: Buccaneers was last week?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do not want to start.

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Speaker 3: Them in that one.

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Speaker 2: It's in Detroit too, right, Yeah. No.

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Speaker 3: The Colts are at Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: I'll take that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's a vanilla defense, but that doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: It's a vanilla quarterback.

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Speaker 2: There aren't many defenses I wouldn't take against Green Bay

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Speaker 2: right now. Yeah, I mean if it was Carolina, Green

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Speaker 2: Bay and am I'm picking them mind you know, but

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Speaker 2: there aren't many. I mean if it was the Raiders

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Speaker 2: or most defenses, I would grab them. Right now.

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Speaker 3: Cleveland is at Jacksonville.

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Speaker 2: I'm sticking with the Browns, like I think it's our

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Speaker 2: league I draft or by the other one I drafted

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Speaker 2: him in. But I mean quarterback throws pick sixes and stuff.

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Speaker 2: It makes it hard. Yeah. Yeah, I think the jagsd's usual.

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Speaker 3: And Cleveland's defense last year on the road is not good.

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Speaker 3: This is in Jacksonville. It's a one o'clock. It's gonna

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Speaker 3: be hot.

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Speaker 2: Jags D I'll take.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, they'd have to start them after what you

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Speaker 3: saw from Deshaun Watson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they could be on waiver wires.

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Speaker 3: Forty nine ers of Vikings. Well you can't start the

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Speaker 3: Vikings defense.

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Speaker 2: No, and you I think you start the Niners.

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Speaker 3: Seahawks are at the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Seahawks are a great pickup. I hate it's a

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Speaker 2: cross country trip and all that stuff for a new

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Speaker 2: coach and new staff. But they they tied Nixon Company

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Speaker 2: and knots after a while too, And he's a pretty

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Speaker 2: good defensive mind.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jets are at the Titans. Jets are probably owned,

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Speaker 3: so you're not. Yeah, are you comfortable with them? After

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Speaker 3: last night?

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Speaker 2: I think I still would be against Yeah, Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: think I still would be. Yeah, Tennessee's he played pretty well. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but that was against a bad Chicago different little different experience.

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Speaker 3: The Giants are at the Commanders.

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Speaker 2: Knowing those no and no.

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Speaker 3: I don't want either one of those, and I would

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Speaker 3: you'd love to start a defense against either one of those,

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Speaker 3: all right.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's a no.

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Speaker 3: Rams at Cardinals.

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Speaker 2: No and no. Yeah, I think there can be a

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Speaker 2: bunch of I feel like that in every Cardinal game.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be like, noing, No, Steelers are at the Broncos.

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Speaker 3: Steelers defense we own, You're not going to start the

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Speaker 3: Broncos defense.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Bengals are at the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: No again for the Bengals, and yeah, you're gonna start to.

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Speaker 2: Chief fine with the Chiefs. I mean, if you drafted

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Speaker 2: them and you have an investment there I'd probably stick

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Speaker 2: with it. It's in Kansas City. Yeah, yeah, I'm fine

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Speaker 2: with probably in the top ten. Still. Yeah, the Bears

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Speaker 2: are at the Texans fire Protexas Texans. No on the Bears. Yeah, Bears.

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Speaker 2: The played well, it's not a bad group.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, but I don't run over their head a

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Speaker 3: little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't love that.

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Speaker 3: And the Falcons are at the Eagles No Monday night game.

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Speaker 2: I'm fine with the Eagles.

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Speaker 3: I'd start the Eagles. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of like the Chief conversation. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: could see Atlanta playing pretty well, I mean in figuring

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Speaker 2: things out.

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Speaker 3: Not if cousins are still.

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Speaker 2: Mobile a big problem. Yeah, I guess Eagles D is usable.

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Speaker 2: The Falcons is on. No, absolutely so not.

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Speaker 3: A there's a couple of targets, some good streamers there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not three or four that will be on

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Speaker 2: waiver wires.

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Speaker 3: Not quite the schedule of games that we had opening week.

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Speaker 2: True, true, there was a couple of low hanging fruit. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, like Seattle's and Tree to me, but I've

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Speaker 2: going all the way to England and yeah, they might

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Speaker 2: lose that game, right, I mean seventeen sixteen or so,

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Speaker 2: you know, do you see.

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Speaker 3: The Patriots getting off to a two and oh start.

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Speaker 2: That That is not a team I'm overreacting to and

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Speaker 2: think that they're good all of a sudden.

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Speaker 3: So either the Browns or the Jaguars are going to

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Speaker 3: start oh in two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a tough hole for both of those any spreads.

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Speaker 2: But I bet Jacksonville's favored. I would think so. I

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Speaker 2: mean I would pick them straight up right now.

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Speaker 3: At hell, both of those franchises have shown over the

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Speaker 3: years that if when things start to go bad, they

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Speaker 3: go bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, go bad and actually pull themselves up by the

447
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Speaker 2: boot scrap. Doesn't look good for Cincinnati going to Kansas City, right,

448
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Speaker 2: they could be ohering to who the Ravens have.

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Speaker 3: Again they play, maybe they play the Raiders at home.

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Speaker 2: They're definitely favored there. Yeah, they'll probably win that game.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So if the Steelers can get off to that

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Speaker 3: two and oh start this week, they may be up

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Speaker 3: two games on both Cincinnati and Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's quite possible. Yeah, so not in

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Speaker 2: a bad spot.

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Speaker 3: Absolute, let's get to a break that's going to do

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Speaker 3: it for the fantasy football focus.

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Speaker 2: See we turned that into a little Steeler.

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Speaker 3: Talk there as well. Of course absolutely, he is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here

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Speaker 3: on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I will be

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Speaker 3: back with more right after this.

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Speaker 1: We believe Black and Gold. This is the Pittsburgh Steelers

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Speaker 1: Audio Network. This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of

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Speaker 1: the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dale LOLLI.

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Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williamson and frequent listeners to the

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Speaker 3: show know that we often reference DVOA. Yeah, which is

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Speaker 3: an Aaron Shat's thing. He doesn't now on FT and Fantasy,

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Speaker 3: but it was always Football Siders as ESBM before that.

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Speaker 3: They all reference the DVOA, which is a way of

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Speaker 3: looking at a power ranking on a team in terms

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Speaker 3: of how they've played and things of that nature, just

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Speaker 3: kind of measuring it up by the analytics.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and at this point they don't account for opponent, right,

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Speaker 2: but I forget what week they start accounting for opponent

479
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Speaker 2: because they feel like they have a better grasp of

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Speaker 2: who you've been playing.

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Speaker 3: So right now, the Steelers thirteenth in DVA after week one,

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Speaker 3: they're a positive plus three point one percent. Being on

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Speaker 3: the positive side of that is where you want to be.

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Speaker 3: The New Orleans Saints after Week one lead the NFL

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Speaker 3: at one hundred point eight.

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Speaker 2: Which is like an unheard of number. That's a ridiculous number.

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Speaker 2: And they stomped the Panthers and it was over by

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Speaker 2: the first quarter. They could have run the score up

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Speaker 2: even more. I mean, like, I don't know if they're

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Speaker 2: good or not, but they played their best game against

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Speaker 2: a terrible opponent. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So this Vikings are actually second at seventy two point eight.

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Speaker 3: Dallas is third at seventy two point four.

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Speaker 2: It's a pretty pressive showing by the Cal.

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Speaker 3: Seattle, which course played Denver last week. They're at seventy

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Speaker 3: one point three.

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Speaker 2: They were didn't blow anyone's doors off, though according to

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Speaker 2: this they did. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: San Francisco at forty eight point one, Tampa Bay thirty

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Speaker 3: three point eight, the Chargers at twenty eight point four,

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Speaker 3: New England at twenty four point zero, Houston at twenty

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Speaker 3: one point oh, Buffalo at nineteen point three, Kansas City

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Speaker 3: at eighteen point five, and Detroit at twelve.

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Speaker 2: At ten point eight, Aaron would be the first to

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Speaker 2: tell you that, I mean, this is small sample size.

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Speaker 2: This isn't predictive that they're going to keep these numbers going.

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Speaker 2: It's one performance and you know, all this information gets

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Speaker 2: cut by fifty percent in a few days from now,

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Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, So it's it's an interesting conversation of

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Speaker 2: who played well and who didn't. But it doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: that these teams are going to dominate the league, you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean. The interesting thing to me, Matt

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Speaker 2: is I just shifted through the defensive DVOA here. Okay,

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Speaker 2: and by all accountcils to you had a good defensive game.

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Speaker 3: They give up ten points to the Atlanta Falcons. Yeahs, turnovers,

516
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Speaker 3: fifty one yards of offense they allowed in the second

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Speaker 3: half of that game, two of nine on third down conversions. Defensively,

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Speaker 3: they came out of Week one tenth tenth.

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Speaker 2: EI thought they were one of the best defenses in

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Speaker 2: the league, just eyeball tests. Interestingly enough, the team that

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Speaker 2: is ninth in the defensive DVOA is Atlanta. Wow, that's

522
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Speaker 2: strange to me. I didn't think their defense was horrible.

523
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Speaker 2: I wasn't horrible, but so a couple of notes here

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Speaker 2: is EPA and DVA are almost the same type of thing,

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Speaker 2: you know. And I was looking at EPA this morning,

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Speaker 2: not DVa's first I've heard these and EPA. The Steelers

527
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Speaker 2: defense on first and second down early down, EPA was phenomenal,

528
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Speaker 2: like the best in the league, which adds up. And

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Speaker 2: I didn't think they were bad on third down, you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, and they also created a big players down.

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Speaker 3: They give up two for nine on conversion. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean they take out everyone.

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Speaker 2: Most of our listeners knew that they were quite you know,

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Speaker 2: stifling on third down, and they created big plays. Big

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Speaker 2: plays is a big thing, I know for DVOA, taking

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Speaker 2: the ball away, sacks and creative negative Yeah. So I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure what they did wrong.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure either in the fact that Atlanta

539
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Speaker 3: was ranked ahead of them when they forced no turnovers.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they held the Steelers a three point three

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Speaker 2: yards rushing, which isn't great, you know, I mean for

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Speaker 2: the Steelers. I mean, that's good work by Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: But some of that was like to take take the

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Speaker 3: ten yard end around the pickings out of the equation,

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Speaker 3: which was the most ridiculous. Not only was it not

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Speaker 3: a great call in that situation.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to lose ten yards ran. Yeah, right, that's

548
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Speaker 2: a very strange play.

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Speaker 3: I would throw that one. I'd take that one to

550
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Speaker 3: just tear it up and throw it out of the playbook.

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Speaker 2: I know, because you know, I dig into the stats

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Speaker 2: and stuff, and you cited this a few times. I

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Speaker 2: forget what the number is, but I think it was

554
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Speaker 2: week eight on last year, or the Steelers average one

555
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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty six yards forty five point two. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I knew, you knew it. They had been over that number.

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Speaker 2: I run they would keep that trend alive. Now they

558
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Speaker 2: were just a little below it. But it was a

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Speaker 2: very odd play. It's harding was on a rushing play.

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Speaker 3: If I'm going to run that end around, I'm not

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Speaker 3: using George Pickens agreed, Because he's the guy who's getting

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Speaker 3: all the attention from the opposing defense.

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Speaker 2: There are eye in him anyway. I mean, Terrell might

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Speaker 2: be following him to begin with.

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Speaker 3: Where's he going to be at? We got to know

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Speaker 3: where that guy's at all the time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So for people don't know, if you go

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Speaker 2: to practice tomorrow or if you went to practice last Thursday,

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Speaker 2: there's somebody with a Drake London, a Bijon Robinson, and

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Speaker 2: a Kyle Pitts jersey on. Not the other guys. I mean,

571
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Speaker 2: it's not every skill guy. You got to know where

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Speaker 2: that dude is. Yeah, well everyone's going to have a

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Speaker 2: Pickens jersey on during their prep week, trust me, you

574
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Speaker 2: know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: And so running that end around with him probably not

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Speaker 3: the best idea in that situation.

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Speaker 2: So look, if I pulled up the e stuff, they

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Speaker 2: have the Steeler d basically fifth. It's behind the Saints

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Speaker 2: and Vikes, both of whom were pretty dominant, and right

580
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Speaker 2: there with Seattle and Dallas. I think that's pretty accurate in.

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Speaker 3: Terms of total DVA defensive DVOA. And again this is

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Speaker 3: relevant because the Steelers played Denver this week, Seattle number

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Speaker 3: one in the league minus fifty six point.

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Speaker 2: Two because of who they played, a lot, because of.

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Speaker 3: Who they played and what they gave up in that game. Right,

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Speaker 3: Denver's offense did nothing in that game.

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Speaker 2: I mean, needless to say, that's gonna be the same

588
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Speaker 2: score as Denver's offense the opposite, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: So they're going to be in the bottom left corner too,

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Speaker 2: you know.

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Speaker 3: But the only defenses well, there were three defenses over

592
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Speaker 3: fifty points this week, Seattle, New Orleans minus fifty five

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Speaker 3: point six and Minus being.

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Speaker 2: Good on minus defense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Dallas at minus fifty three point six in Minnesota

596
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Speaker 3: at minus fifty point two.

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Speaker 2: That's I don't really have a much discrepancy with that.

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Speaker 2: They were big time performances. Offense was down. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if you've heard this, but this was the lowest

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Speaker 2: and it dawned on me when we talked about fantasy yesterday.

601
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Speaker 2: There's so few quarterbacks that were over three hundred. It

602
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Speaker 2: was the lowest number of passing yards in the NFL

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Speaker 2: since like twenty ten in Week one. YEA. Offense was rough.

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Speaker 3: It was very difficult, very different. A lot of quarterbacks

605
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Speaker 3: didn't play in the preseason and it showed.

606
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Burroughs and Cousins and those guys. The

607
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Speaker 2: guys that played well were like Mayfield and car and

608
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Speaker 2: some of the middle of the road dudes. And then

609
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Speaker 2: all the rookies are terrible.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, there were some really bad performances there was,

611
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Speaker 3: including from Nicks, and.

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Speaker 2: The whole offense as a whole was pretty bad.

613
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Speaker 3: Pretty bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Looking at Denver where they ranking.

616
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Speaker 2: I'm trying to find them here on EPA. They are.

617
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Speaker 3: They came in at twenty eight in total minus fifty

618
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Speaker 3: four point seven, minus fifty I'm sorry, minus fifty six

619
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Speaker 3: point nine. I was looking at their adjusted DVA fifty

620
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Speaker 3: six point nine.

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Speaker 2: It was a miserable performance in terms of.

622
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Speaker 3: The teams that were worse than them. Last week, Carolina

623
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Speaker 3: dead last, Cleveland at thirty one, okay, the Giants at thirty,

624
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Speaker 3: the Giant, the Commanders at twenty nine.

625
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Speaker 2: Okay, looking at this one, the only offenses that were

626
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Speaker 2: worse were the Giants and Panthers, and they are right

627
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Speaker 2: there with like the Raiders, and they were slightly above

628
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Speaker 2: average defensively the Bronco Yeah, basically right on the line.

629
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Speaker 2: But the defense is better than the offense.

630
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Speaker 3: Well here in terms of better offense in terms of

631
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Speaker 3: DVA for offensive DVA, the only offenses worse were that

632
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Speaker 3: of Carolina and Cleveland.

633
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Speaker 2: Okay, Carolina is the worse than no. Cleveland was worse offensively, yeah, wow, Okay,

634
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 2: according to they're pretty bad here too. They're right there

635
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 2: with They're actually right next to them.

636
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Speaker 3: So in terms of defensive DVOA, Denver was plus twenty

637
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 3: five point nine again plus not where you want to know,

638
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 3: army plus right, that is twenty ninth in the league.

639
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 3: The only place that Denver did well in was on

640
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Speaker 3: special teams.

641
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Speaker 2: They were second, okay, Steelers had to be hot Steelers

642
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 2: for fifth okay, and say six or six goes a

643
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 2: long way.

644
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, and probably would have been higher. They had a

645
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 3: couple of penalties on returns Austin good return, Calvin Austin,

646
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 3: a couple of good punt returns again nullified.

647
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think people harp on the negative on special teams.

648
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 2: I think they're crazy. Yeah, they were, They're pretty good, right,

649
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 2: heard this little nugget just talking about these two defenses.

650
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 2: The Steelers blitzed less than any team in the league

651
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Speaker 2: this week, which is crazy. I mean they were like

652
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:56,239
Speaker 2: it's seven percent. Yeah, Broncos blitzed the most because they

653
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 2: don't have pass right and ye they have to generate

654
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 2: somehow at something. And then I'm gonna harp on all week,

655
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 2: but it says a lot about both these defenses where

656
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 2: they're at. You know, if you can you can get

657
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: there with four against a really good line and Seattle's

658
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 2: line stinks. You know, they weren't getting their home with

659
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Speaker 2: four against one of the worst lines in the league

660
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Speaker 2: where lines not great, right right, exactly that you know,

661
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Speaker 2: I'm thinking about from a Denver defense perspective Week one,

662
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Speaker 2: You shouldn't have to blitz against Seattle that much to

663
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Speaker 2: get pressure, and you were number one the whole league. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know if I do. You want

665
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Speaker 2: to blitz justin fields. I don't know what his traditional

666
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Speaker 2: numbers are, but he can certainly make you pay.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you miss him.

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Speaker 2: The other thing, too, is you're rolling them out so

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Speaker 2: much too. Yeah, that's they're blitzing from the wrong side

670
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Speaker 2: and you're chasing him when he's rolling right, and you're

671
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Speaker 2: not going to catch your side right right right after.

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Speaker 2: I mean, at least Denver now has tape to go

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Speaker 2: off of the fields. But I don't know it's going

674
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 2: to look like that though. I don't think it's not

675
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Speaker 2: exact passing game, you know. I think they'll keep fields

676
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Speaker 2: as a starter. I think he'll be on the move

677
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Speaker 2: a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just looking here his blitz numbers.

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Speaker 2: And maybe is.

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Speaker 3: They don't have his blitz numbers here. I thought they

681
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Speaker 3: did on.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I know he's taken a lot of sacks

683
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Speaker 2: in his career. Yeah, and I'm sure a lot of

684
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Speaker 2: them are verse blitz.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean I thought he got rid of

686
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Speaker 3: the ball pretty quickly. I didn't think he held the ball.

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Speaker 2: His time to throw was high? Was it high? It was?

688
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Speaker 2: It was over. He was highest in the league last

689
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Speaker 2: year at like three point zero six, and it was

690
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Speaker 2: slightly over that. But you're going to also hold it

691
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Speaker 2: more if you're on the run. Yeah, some of that,

692
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Speaker 2: so I'm looking hover of that was sort of by design.

693
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Speaker 2: It was played that way. There's no way you're going

694
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Speaker 2: to be at two point.

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Speaker 3: He was eleven fifteen when he held the ball two

696
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Speaker 3: point five seconds or longer when he got rid of it.

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Speaker 3: I know, I'm sorry he was eleven for fifteen when

698
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Speaker 3: he got rid of it. That's more than two point

699
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Speaker 3: five seconds, because when he's on rhythm and on time,

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Speaker 3: he's good. It was only for forty five yards though,

701
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Speaker 3: when he held the ball two point five seconds or

702
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Speaker 3: long or he was six of eight for one hundred

703
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Speaker 3: and eleven yards. Well, the forty yards are down down

704
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Speaker 3: the side of the at the end of the first half.

705
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Speaker 3: Was one of those because he rolled to his left.

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Speaker 2: So he got rid of it in two point five

707
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Speaker 2: more often than he held it two point five Yes, attempts. Yeah, so,

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Speaker 2: assuming my numbers are right, I got him from NFL

709
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Speaker 2: dot Com. There must have been several snaps that were

710
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Speaker 2: like five seconds, you know, to make it well over three.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I didn't. That's I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I was shocked when I read that. Yeah, I didn't.

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Speaker 3: I didn't see him holding the ball a lot back there.

714
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Speaker 2: This was from the NFL dot Com. Their next gen

715
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: stuff now is is stepped up quite a bit, so

716
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Speaker 2: this was straight from the NFL. But I wouldn't think

717
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Speaker 2: of that either.

718
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Speaker 3: As Tomlin said about that, because I think Chris Carter

719
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Speaker 3: asked him today about you know, the NFL next Gen statsaid,

720
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Speaker 3: you guys running more RPOs than or second most RPOs

721
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Speaker 3: last week, and Tomlin was like, we didn't run that

722
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Speaker 3: many RPOs just because they think it's an RPO. Because

723
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Speaker 3: the quarterback carries out of fake doesn't mean that's an RPO.

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Speaker 2: Funny, I don't even click on that column because I

725
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 2: don't think anybody knows.

726
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Speaker 3: They really don't.

727
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Speaker 2: You really don't.

728
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Speaker 3: It's kind of like play action in some instances where

729
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Speaker 3: quarterbacks in the shotgun and runs an RPO. Isn't that

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Speaker 3: play action.

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Speaker 2: Right, right, right exactly? So Chris might be dead on

732
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Speaker 2: I mean, I bet that column exists and it has

733
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Speaker 2: them that way, But that's not one of the columns

734
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Speaker 2: I would ever lie. I mean, I'm looking here at

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Speaker 2: Pro Football Reference.

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Speaker 3: They had two RPOs for the Steelers where they actually

737
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Speaker 3: where he threw the ball off an RPO.

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Speaker 2: I mean the only times you well you could he

739
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: could run it too. But yeah, I mean that's a

740
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 2: really broad term there, really is. I mean a lot

741
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Speaker 2: of times you'll see one half a line pass block

742
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Speaker 2: and one half a line run block.

743
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Speaker 3: That's kind of a dead giveaway. But I trust Tomlin

744
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Speaker 3: and know how many times he ran RPO.

745
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and some of it's just again, I don't click

746
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 2: on that column because I don't think I don't trust

747
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:55,239
Speaker 2: the statue people won those. Yeah, you know, whoever's gathering them,

748
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Speaker 2: I don't know that they have one hundred percent feel

749
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Speaker 2: for that.

750
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Speaker 3: But some of the numbers here on on fields not bad.

751
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Speaker 2: You know.

752
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Speaker 3: The only the number that really stands out here to

753
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Speaker 3: me is when they were in no huddle, he was

754
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Speaker 3: only two for six.

755
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Speaker 2: Okay, for four yards from that profile reference. Yeah, okay,

756
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 2: yeah that they would know. Yeah, yeah, there that's an

757
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 2: easy one.

758
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 3: Play action. He was six of eight, but for only

759
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Speaker 3: twenty eight yards.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I think play action people basically know too.

761
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no imlay action eleven for fifteen for one hundred

762
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Speaker 3: and twenty eight yards. I mean they didn't They just

763
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 3: didn't push the ball down the field right now.

764
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 2: Say that. So much of that to me stemmed from

765
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 2: just when they knew they had Atlanta's offense where they

766
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: wanted him. Yeah. Then it was just kind of the

767
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,959
Speaker 2: picket version of yeah, don't throw picks, we're gonna win

768
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 2: this game. And in a way, whenever they didn't get

769
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Speaker 2: it on fourth and one gave him a little bit

770
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Speaker 2: of life. I mean, that was the first time I

771
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 2: got nervous lated in the game because they started moving

772
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 2: the ball a little bit. Yeah. So we'll see, Yeah,

773
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 2: see how it works this week, get a better grasp

774
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 2: of where they feel like Justin Fields is at again

775
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 2: if they build the entire game plan around him. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm curious. Hot that'd be hard as a coaching staff,

777
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 2: you know, because you know you said, you know it

778
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 2: installs tomorrow. Yeah, of course, and they know who Fields

779
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Speaker 2: is and they know who Wilson is, and there is

780
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 2: some overlaping skill set. But you're preparing for one or

781
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Speaker 2: the other with the idea of Fields will probably be

782
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 2: the one on Wednesday. But what if Russ feels great Thursday. Yeah,

783
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 2: coaching John's are tough. They go back to the drawing

784
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 2: board a lot of right right then stuff? Yeah? I

785
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 2: mean you built this game plan on Tuesday or Monday

786
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 2: Tuesday for Denver and you might have to throw a

787
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 2: large portion of it away even if it's good. Right.

788
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Speaker 2: Is this the way coaching is? That's the way it is.

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Speaker 3: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening

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Speaker 3: to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 2: Matt.

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Speaker 3: Now are going to take a break. We'll be back

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Speaker 3: to finish up the show right after.

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Speaker 1: This your home for the Steelers. This is the Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: Steelers Audio Network and this is the Drive with Dale

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Speaker 1: Lolly and Matt Williamson on your twenty four to seven

797
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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Gold in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolly. He is the

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Speaker 3: Matt Williamson and Matt. The NFL has changed some of

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Speaker 3: its rules this year the Pro Football Hall of Fame times,

801
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 3: I should say, in seniors category. So they just released

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Speaker 3: the name of one hundred and eighty three nominees. Gotcha,

803
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 3: where the senior committee take a look.

804
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 2: If I'm wrong, but the old rules were one a year. Yeah,

805
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 2: there was that weird COVID year where they put in

806
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Speaker 2: ten or whatever. But okay, they're taking a longer look

807
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Speaker 2: at some of these guys now.

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Speaker 3: So one hundred and eighty three nominees are going to

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Speaker 3: pair that down to a list of fifty players, including ties,

810
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 3: over the next few weeks. Here there are some Steeler

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Speaker 3: players in this group here, including running back Byron Whizzer White.

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Speaker 3: That's going way back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, then they deserve our time and effort.

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Speaker 3: To of course, Yeah, absolutely, of course.

815
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Speaker 2: At Elsie Greenwood, that was one I was thinking to

816
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 2: my tongue of who would be Steelers A fitness mold

817
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 2: Elsie's I think that probably the best one available.

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00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 3: In safety, Mike Wagner, Okay.

819
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 2: I'm an instrumental part of the best, one of the

820
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 2: best defenses ever and very just you know, big contributor

821
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Speaker 2: for four rings. I would lean towards LC over Wagzo.

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00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, place kicker Norm Johnson also on the least career

823
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 3: Seattle too. Yeah. To qualify as a Senior Committee guy,

824
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Speaker 3: you had to have played at least twenty five full

825
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 3: seasons ago for nomination, So you had to be done

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Speaker 3: by nineteen ninety nine.

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Speaker 2: Is your last season?

828
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Speaker 3: Okay, And you also had to have won some kind

829
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Speaker 3: of postseason honor award.

830
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Speaker 2: Also, he had me Pro Bowl or oh okay, okay,

831
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Speaker 2: I thought you like you had to do in a

832
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 2: playoff game or yeah, okay, okay, yeah, okay, So that

833
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 2: makes sense, Okay, some sort of something, Okay.

834
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 3: I had to be recognized as something. I'm kind of surprised.

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Speaker 2: So is that how they came up with one hundred

836
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: and eighty three? Yeah? These are all the guys that

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00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 2: aren't in the Hall of Fame, that have been to

838
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 2: a Pro Bowl, that played before the year two thousand.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot of names. I mean, it's gould be

840
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Speaker 2: pretty easy one to pay eighty three. Yeah, Like with

841
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Speaker 2: all respected Norman Johnson, he's got no chance. No, Yeah,

842
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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know whom you're nominated these guys,

843
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 2: but I look at guys like.

844
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Speaker 3: I'm just trying to think of guys who aren't in

845
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame, like a Ken Anderson, He's on

846
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 3: the list. Yeah, I'm talking.

847
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 2: I'm talking about Steelers could have made this list.

848
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 3: What about a guy like I'm just going down through

849
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,240
Speaker 3: the list here of their Hall of Honor guys, Andy Russell.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like his case better than Wagner's.

851
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, multi time Pro Bowl guy who was

852
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 3: the captain of the defense.

853
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 2: A couple of the first couple of Super Bowls. Not

854
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 2: get any I mean, he was one of the few

855
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 2: good carryovers when Chuck Nole got hired. Yeah, like, we're

856
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 2: going to keep that guy. Yeah, everyone else can go.

857
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 2: You know, I mean to me, you know, nothing against

858
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 2: Mike Wagner, but I can't believe he wasn't on that list.

859
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting if youre gonna have one hundred and

860
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Speaker 3: eighty three players on that list.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't mean he's gonna end up in

862
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame or should, but he should be.

863
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Speaker 3: Should at least get a nomination in.

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00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 2: That combination conversation. Yeah, now I'm with you on that.

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Speaker 3: Taking a look here at some of the news and

866
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 3: notes from around the league. Lamar Jackson as it turns

867
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Speaker 3: out was sore on Monday.

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Speaker 2: Say, let me guess he was sick. Gets sick more

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Speaker 2: than anybody.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he does get sick a lot, but no, he was.

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00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 3: He had some general soreness a lot to Mike Garoppolo. Uh,

872
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 3: and so that was he's expected to practice on Wednesday.

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00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 2: Horrendous protection. Yeah, he took a beating. That's not a

874
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 2: sustainable formula. And I'm if, I'm Harbaugh and the owner,

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00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 2: I'm we're not doing that anymo.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, don't don't let that happen anymore. Josh Allen with

877
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 3: the Bills was a full participant in Tuesday's practice walk

878
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 3: through practice. Okay, he's dealing with that left hand. He

879
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 3: did have a glove on that left hand.

880
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 2: At least it's a left but takes another hit.

881
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 3: You don't like it.

882
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, but division game and he's got ten days arrested after,

883
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 2: So there you have. I'm sure he'll play.

884
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 3: Mitchell Trubisky full participant for them today. Tyler Johnson and

885
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 3: running back was a limited.

886
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 2: Tight end. Quinton Morris was a full participant.

887
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 3: With a shoulder injury, and Tron Johnson, their very good

888
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 3: nickel cornerback, did not practice.

889
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't sound good for Johnson. That was the

890
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 2: one I heard. He's really important to those guys. With

891
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 2: their linebacker and safety change. He was one of the

892
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 2: few stabilizing factors in their back seven. You know, carry

893
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 2: over guys that you can kind of count on. He's

894
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 2: an important player for them.

895
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 3: We mentioned earlier in the show the Carolina Panthers placed

896
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,760
Speaker 3: defensive tackle Derek Brown on season ending injured reserve.

897
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 2: One of the more underrated players in the league.

898
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, their best player and they don't have them.

899
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 2: Now they're a miserable team. Right now.

900
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 3: They are signing defensive end Charles Harris.

901
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, hasn't done a ton No. No, the Browns

902
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 2: have made it the fish with Kadarius Tony. That's what

903
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 2: they need on their practice squad. Yeah. Still they talk

904
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 2: about a volatile, you know, teas type of guy. I

905
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 2: don't know.

906
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 3: The Lions signed placekicker Greg Joseph to their practice squad.

907
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 2: Maybe their guy pulled something or whatever.

908
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 3: Look fine. The other night they seem to Yeah, Michael

909
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 3: p Ryan cut by the Green Bay Packers.

910
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 2: I didn't know as I picked them up.

911
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 3: So, ye, Houston, Well that was practice quite signing Julius

912
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 3: Brents for the Colts corner placed on injured reserve.

913
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 2: Oh really, Yeah, their corners are probably the weakest part

914
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 2: of the team. Yeah.

915
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 3: He was the guy they drafted the highest last year. Yeah,

916
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 3: second rounder and played a lot for them and started.

917
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 2: We talked about him quite a bit. I mean some

918
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,919
Speaker 2: of the people listening might remember he got yeah six ' three,

919
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 2: ended up in the second round. They were counting on

920
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 2: him to be an integral part of that defense. Yeah,

921
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 2: so good for that cover three system.

922
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 3: They have big loss for them.

923
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 2: That is a big loss. So that's four plus weeks

924
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 2: or was that that season ender? Didn't they say just

925
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 2: as placed on injured reserve.

926
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 3: I don't know that they designated, yeah, just yet the

927
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 3: rams of all kinds of offensive line problems. They signed

928
00:41:54,520 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 3: two offensive tackles today, Jeron Christian and Ty's.

929
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 2: Been around, but he was always a decent swing guy.

930
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 2: Six guy. I don't know why he's not signed, but

931
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 2: they might need him to start now, so they might

932
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,439
Speaker 2: be playing right now. That poor dude from Michigan State

933
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 2: well Man.

934
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 3: Looking at the Dolphins side of that Thursday night game.

935
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 2: Devin a.

936
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 3: Chan listed as a non participant in Tuesday's walk through

937
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 3: Rahiem Mostert did not participate. A Chan has an ankle.

938
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 3: Mostard is a chest ankles not good for a Chan.

939
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 2: No, not at all, and walkthroughs not that demanding, Noah.

940
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 2: But I also though have.

941
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 3: To be out, probably not gonna play.

942
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 2: I would think not. Yeah, yeah, that's a tough one.

943
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 3: UH wide receiver Malik Washington, with a quadricep did not practice.

944
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 3: Linebacker Jalen Phillips with an achilles was limited, as was

945
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 3: cornerback Jalen Ramsey with a hamstring.

946
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: Okay, Phillips played really well in the game. I think

947
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 2: that's just precaution. Aeron though, Yeah, they're valuable guys.

948
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 3: The UH Minnesota Vikings signed defensive tackle Hairerson Phillips to

949
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 3: a two year contract extension worth nineteen million dollars.

950
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 2: He's more of a run stuffer, a big body guy.

951
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 2: You know.

952
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,439
Speaker 3: In six six issue, thirteen million guaranteed for him. Cam

953
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 3: Hayward deal looks better and better.

954
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, seems like a lot of money for what should

955
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 2: be a rotational player that doesn't affect the passing game

956
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 2: that much.

957
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 3: You know, the forty nine ers, they're saying that Christian

958
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 3: McCaffrey with that calf Achilles injury. The Achilles is the

959
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 3: new part of that.

960
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 2: Because Calf was last year.

961
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, he is considered day to day. They got Juwan

962
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 3: Jennings injured NET game last night with an ankle injury,

963
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 3: and guard Aaron Branks Banks with the Bruce caff also

964
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 3: day to day.

965
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 2: Okay, I get the impression McCaffrey might be another week,

966
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 2: could be yeah.

967
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 3: There, especially when the backup comes down and plays well, yeah, exactly, Like, Okay,

968
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 3: we can slow play this with McCaffrey a little bit.

969
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 2: So I think people know that. I host a podcast

970
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 2: with Brian Peacock, who's a Niners guy, and I guess

971
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 2: Niners people hate when he says this, but he's like,

972
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 2: if I had to rank who I don't want in

973
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 2: my lineup for the Niners, McCaffrey's like seven or eight,

974
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 2: you know, like Purdy, both receivers, Kittle, Williams, Warner, Bosa.

975
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 2: Because they're still really good without them. I mean they're

976
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 2: great with them.

977
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're really But here's the thing. I know

978
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 3: a lot of people are gonna I guarantee you a

979
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 3: lot of the people who are on that train that

980
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 3: you never draft a running back in the trutch round,

981
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 3: don't pay running backs. Looked at that game last night

982
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 3: and said, see, anybody can get a running back anywhere, right,

983
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 3: Not true. If the forty nine ers believed that, they

984
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 3: wouldn't be paying Christian McCaffrey what they're paying him.

985
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 2: And if you look at Shanahan's career, they've missed on

986
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 2: so many draftable running backs. They've traded up for guys,

987
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 2: and they've drafted a bunch of them, a bunch of

988
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,439
Speaker 2: them in like rounds three four, trading up for them.

989
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 2: And Mason's not a nobody by the way, right, Yeah,

990
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 2: I went back and really looked at his background. He

991
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 2: was a heavily cruited guy. And then Georgia Tech got

992
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: the greatest recruit in Georgia Tech history, Jamiir Gibbs, who

993
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: then put Mason on the bench. Gibbs goes to Bama.

994
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 2: Mason has a nice job, but it kind of got

995
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 2: lost in the wash behind a really good player. And

996
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 2: now he's in a good situation, like he had a

997
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 2: good preseason, like he's clearly there too. He's good. Yeah,

998
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 2: I mean he makes any team probably start. I mean

999
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 2: Dallas would kill for him right now. No, he's a

1000
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 2: good player.

1001
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 3: But you don't just find those guys anywhere because everybody

1002
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:29,919
Speaker 3: always points to the forty nine ers. Well, the forty

1003
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 3: nine ers, they just plug anybody in there. Well that's why,

1004
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 3: that's not why they traded for Christian McCaffrey.

1005
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 2: No, right, I mean there's special traits there. And Frankly,

1006
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 2: Rob and I on Friday had a conversation about Bijon,

1007
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 2: you know, like, Okay, maybe you're not into drafting a

1008
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 2: running back in round one. I get it. I'll take him.

1009
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 2: He's pretty good. I'll take that guy.

1010
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 3: Say Kwan Barkley was pretty good the other day.

1011
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, if you're a difference maker, it's different.

1012
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 3: The special talents are the special talents, and there's a

1013
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 3: difference between taking those guys in the top ten, yeah,

1014
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 3: and take one in the bottom third of the of

1015
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 3: the first.

1016
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 2: Round, especially if you're a playoff team and that's like

1017
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 2: your biggest need, you know, like if the Chiefs were

1018
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 2: to do it or something like that. I get it.

1019
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 3: If you don't have somebody, which the Steelers didn't have

1020
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 3: when they took Nausey Harris, which is why I mentioned this, Yeah,

1021
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 3: you don't have a guy, you better get one.

1022
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 2: Even the Jets last night. I know Priests Hall wasn't one,

1023
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 2: but he was in early two. Where would they be

1024
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 2: without him? Yeah, I mean it'd be trouble. I mean

1025
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 2: big time, yeah, big time. Yeah. So just starting outside, Yeah,

1026
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 2: a lot of it's just the money thing. Yeah, you know,

1027
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 2: tackles are harder to find the running backs. Everyone in

1028
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 2: the world knows that, you know. But I think b

1029
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 2: John Robinson for a first round pick all day long.

1030
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 2: Yeah absolutely. I mean he changes the game.

1031
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 3: He sure does, and was really good against the Steelers

1032
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 3: in that game the other day, but not good enough.

1033
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, really impressive, but he wasn't super productive for as

1034
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 2: good as he looked on tape. And you know, here's

1035
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 2: a good night trob against him.

1036
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 3: They really did, and he just week they get Javonte Williams,

1037
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 3: who was the second back, no third back taking, no.

1038
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 2: Harris ATM Williams.

1039
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he was the third back taking in that

1040
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one draft.

1041
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 2: Now it could be his last year in Denver two yeah,

1042
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 2: so we'll see. But he did not look all that

1043
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 2: impressiveness that one. I don't know that he's going to

1044
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 2: That injury he had was pretty bad and I thought

1045
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 2: I was kind of targeting him in fantasy, and then

1046
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 2: after Week one, I'm like, he does. I don't think

1047
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 2: that's the same.

1048
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 3: Maybe it's just their offense.

1049
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 2: It's just isn't great. Not great. That's very true. Yeah,

1050
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 2: So we'll see.

1051
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 3: Steelers at Broncos on Sunday. That's the Week two matchup

1052
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 3: for the Pittsburgh Steelers. But for my partner Matt Williamson,

1053
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 3: for Brian Lamartine here on site keeping us on the air,

1054
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 3: that's going to do it for our show today.

1055
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly.

1056
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,239
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1057
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