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Speaker 1: What is going on? Everybody? John Middlecoff careeing out podcast,

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Speaker 1: back at it again Monday after noon. Draft was fun.

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Speaker 1: It's over and uh, you know NFL. I tipped my

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Speaker 1: hat to you. Uh. The draft was awesome. Godell crushed,

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Speaker 1: the GMS, crushed, all their little kids crushed, seeing the kids,

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Speaker 1: the raw motion. It was a fantastic three day production.

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Speaker 1: It really was. And we're gonna dive into. You know,

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Speaker 1: I just have some overall thoughts. I've been thinking all

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Speaker 1: because I think it might. And then we're gonna dive

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Speaker 1: into a lot more. You've got James assigning with the Saints.

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Speaker 1: Some just other thoughts I had on the draft. Some

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Speaker 1: teams that jumped out dive into the Middlecoff mailbag of

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Speaker 1: course at John Middlecoff. I'm gonna need you now more

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Speaker 1: any question you want and I will answer it here

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Speaker 1: on the podcast. Again, this is a community based show.

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Speaker 1: And in the month of in quarantine, which at least

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Speaker 1: where I'm from, doesn't look like it's getting lifted uh

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Speaker 1: anytime soon, we're gonna I'm gonna depend on you. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a team effort. And everyone that has gone

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Speaker 1: I appreciate everyone that's done this. And if you haven't

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Speaker 1: done this and you'd like to show iTunes, go to

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Speaker 1: where you can rate and review and just leave. You know,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate a five star review, three and out podcast,

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Speaker 1: wanted to start with this. I think the two most

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Speaker 1: You just won't care. But we can talk about quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: We've seen Carson Wentz go down multiple times. One time

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Speaker 1: I mean that that that was wild. I sat down

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Speaker 1: on my couch I slept in on Saturday, and I

427
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,680
Speaker 1: got up probably like eight the draft started. I think

428
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 1: for me. Was it at ten am? Yeah, I think

429
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 1: it was at ten am. Maybe it was at nine am,

430
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 1: maybe it was at nine am. Whatever the time it started.

431
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 1: In the morning, I had a cup of coffee. I

432
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,119
Speaker 1: just sat down on my couch. I was gonna I

433
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 1: was gonna watch just the fourth round, you know, just

434
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 1: for a couple of hours casually before I went on

435
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 1: a walk or something. And I looked down at my

436
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 1: phone and rap sheet tweets that the forty Niners have

437
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 1: acquired Trent Williams, and I swear to god, I thought that, like,

438
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,200
Speaker 1: I'm not even awake yet, I'm not reading this right,

439
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 1: and I kind of like I flipped my phone Twitter

440
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,719
Speaker 1: off and I loaded back up and I go to

441
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 1: his Twitter account and it was real, and I think

442
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,120
Speaker 1: it was one of the more shocking things of the weekend. Now,

443
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,479
Speaker 1: I had heard last week that Joe Staley had been

444
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:03,639
Speaker 1: content lating retirement and anyone that has hasn't done it.

445
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 1: He put out a retirement letter that was about his

446
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 1: well thought out and powerful of a retirement letter, as

447
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna see, and Joe Staleley to me is everything

448
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 1: you want in a franchise. Cornerstone. Was he ever the

449
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 1: best player on the field, No, but what he was

450
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 1: is he was one of the more reliable players always

451
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 1: on the field. And that guy really the four hard

452
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 1: By years probably are the equivalent to like six or

453
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 1: seven years just from factoring in violence and the way

454
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:40,160
Speaker 1: that hardball played well this season with Kyle Shanahan turned

455
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 1: into that how violent, Uh, just the forty Niners are

456
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 1: and what they asked of all their players, like the

457
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 1: games are just kind of a war zone. I mean

458
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 1: they're trying to not just beat, they're trying to kick

459
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,119
Speaker 1: your ass. And Joe's body kind of broke down. His

460
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 1: legs snapped, his fingers were shattering turns out here, his

461
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 1: neck was hurting. I mean he's thirty six years old.

462
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 1: He's a weathered, weathered NFL player, thirteen years in the

463
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 1: trenches going up against the best players and for a

464
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: long period of time every day in practice. Alton Smith,

465
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 1: Justin Smith, Ray McDonald and then all the guys always

466
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 1: in the division with Seattle, Chandler Jones has been the

467
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 1: division for a while. The Rams have guys. It's just

468
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 1: a physical position. So I I thought the reason I

469
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 1: thought he would come back was simply because you know,

470
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 1: the Niners are gonna have a chance to win the

471
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: Super Bowl this year, and he's been to two and

472
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 1: he's lost both. But clearly his body doesn't can't take

473
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 1: it anymore, and I think that he did not want

474
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Speaker 1: to end his career. And he's gonna be whoever your

475
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 1: favorite team is. You know, he's just one of He's

476
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 1: that guy that's gonna be part of the organization, like

477
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,919
Speaker 1: the media team, maybe become like the assistant GM. I

478
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 1: don't know what he's gonna be, but he's gonna be

479
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,199
Speaker 1: a huge part of the Niners moving forward. I just

480
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 1: don't think he wanted to end his career, either in

481
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 1: an air cast or a cart because that's why I

482
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 1: think what he was thinking. Might it might end that way,

483
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 1: but something one of the best players the Niners have

484
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,640
Speaker 1: had in the last two decades. They upgraded the position,

485
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: and I know Colin last year thought the next Bill

486
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: Belichick was gonna be Kyle Shanahan, and you know, it

487
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: turns out he's kind of right. But one area which

488
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 1: they are dramatically different is in a weird way, Kyle's

489
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: a player's coach. He's a little bit more modern. I

490
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 1: actually think he's more like Bill Walsh than Bill Belichick.

491
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,399
Speaker 1: Like players rave about Belichick how smart he is, but

492
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: they all kind of fear him. They all know that

493
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 1: he's gonna get rid of him. I think players really

494
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: respect Kyle and don't fear him that way. Now, as

495
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 1: Kyle would show, he traded the Forrest Buckner, he cut

496
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 1: Navarro Bowman, but a huge reason that Trent Williams is

497
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: on this team. Minnesota had a better offer. They were

498
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,120
Speaker 1: also going to give Trent Williams a race. He said, no,

499
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it. My theory was he was not.

500
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: I think Kirk Cousins played a part in that He's

501
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 1: already been in a to with that guy. He knows

502
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: you can't win a super Bowl, er win big with

503
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: that guy and the money. You don't hold out for

504
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: a year when you're already super rich just because of money.

505
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 1: It's on principle, it's on I can't stand the Redskins.

506
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 1: I'm taking control of my life a little like Gronk

507
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 1: did a couple of years ago. Now, you've gotta be

508
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: a really good player to be able to pull this off.

509
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 1: You also in a league where it's hard to become

510
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: financially secure, I have to have made some money. And

511
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 1: like Gronk when Belichick was like, you know what, I'm

512
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: trading you to one of the joke franchise in the

513
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: league with my clown former defensive coordinator and Bob Quinn

514
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 1: that doesn't know what's going on. And Gronk says, you

515
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: know what, Belichick, kick rocks. I'll retire before I play

516
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: for them. And Belichick couldn't do anything, and twent Trent

517
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 1: Williams last year was like listen, I'm I'm out, guys,

518
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 1: I'm out. And they I don't know the team, but

519
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 1: you know, there were a bunch of rumors they clearly

520
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: could have got more form last year. First round picks

521
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: were being thrown around, definitely multiple two's. Now again, we

522
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: don't know if Trent Williams would have been willing to

523
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, all go play for the Houston Texans

524
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 1: or all go play for the Cleveland Brows, because I

525
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: would say based on his actions when he told Minnesota,

526
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: it's not like Minnesota's the fight. You know, the Lions

527
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 1: they've made the playoffs. What four the last five years

528
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: might be five and the last six. They've been one

529
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: of the more consistent winning teams in the league for

530
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: the last half decade. They got a you know, really

531
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 1: good coach, they have good players on offense, they have

532
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 1: they have had pretty consistent players on defense. They've had

533
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: one of the better defense in the league. There's a

534
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: well run operation. He said, no, you know, it was basically,

535
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: I'm playing for Kyler. I ain't playing because you don't

536
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: have to give up much and the Niners aren't even

537
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 1: giving him a race, So it clearly wasn't about the money.

538
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: It was about principal. And somehow, when the dust settles,

539
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 1: the Niners end up they got rid of Buckner and

540
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: they end up with kin Law, second best deep interior

541
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: defensive lineman in this draft. They end up with Brandon Aiyuk,

542
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: who to me is a top thirty player in this

543
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: draft and a guy that can be really really good,

544
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 1: and they an upgrade their left tackle position. Now, the

545
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: guy hadn't played any year, but texting around uh the

546
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 1: league that everyone said that evaluated him. My buddies that

547
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: are pro scouts used the word yeah. He was still

548
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: arguably the best left tackle in the league in two

549
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: thousand and eighteen. Now you never know. But sometimes for

550
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,439
Speaker 1: a guy he's thirty one, thirty two, he's not thirty

551
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 1: six thirty seven. You know, he still should have a

552
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: couple of years left. And I think the Niners are

553
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 1: gonna have options. If he plays great, you extend him.

554
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 1: If he shows he shot, you didn't give up that much.

555
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: It was a well worth risk taking. Also a very

556
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: very ballsy move because back to Kyle Shanahan, Joe Staley

557
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 1: told him I was gonna retire. That was the crazy

558
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: part about what the forty Niners did. They knew Staley

559
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 1: was not gonna show back up, so with the thirteen pick,

560
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: they traded back a spot to give the Tampa Bay

561
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 1: Buccaneers potential tackle. Now there's some arguments with worf is

562
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: he is he a tackle or is he a guard? Still,

563
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: the Niners could have traded back and taken another tackle.

564
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: I mean, they knew they need a left tackle. Talking

565
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: to some people around the Niners, they were hoping the

566
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 1: Williams thing was going down. They were working on it,

567
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: but there was no guaranteed. They kind of just rolled

568
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: the dice. And I know this if the Trent Williams

569
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 1: deal had fallen through and Staley had retired, and they

570
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 1: had taken kin Law and Ayuke and not landed a tackle,

571
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 1: they would have been in some trouble because you cannot

572
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl with a crappy left tackle. They

573
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: couldn't have done it, and it would have been basically

574
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: impossible to land one unless they were gonna trade some

575
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, high round picks for some

576
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: sweet player. But who's the sweet player that would be available.

577
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: They'd be impossible to find. Now, Kyle did a good

578
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: job last year with backup tackles when McGlinchey and Staley

579
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: were hurt, but it's another thing playing an entire season.

580
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: I mean, Joe Staley still started all the playoff games

581
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: still started Week seventeen in Seattle, like you need Joe Staley,

582
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: So that that was to me the most shocking thing

583
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: that happened on Saturday A is somehow the forty nine

584
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: ers lost Joe Staley, one of the most consistent guys

585
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: you know, enfranchise history, who's not gonna be like I

586
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: don't think Joe Staley is a Hall of Famer and

587
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: ended up with potentially a Hall of Famer for a

588
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: third round pick next year, third round pick. All they

589
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: had to give up this year was a fifth round pick.

590
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: And the way that I've been it's been described to me,

591
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: when you give a future pick, you usually divide, like

592
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: take a discount. So a third round pick this year

593
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: is actually worth a third round pick the following year

594
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: is worth less depending on the team uh next year.

595
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: So pick, if if I'm giving you pick forty five

596
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: this year, right going into the draft, that pick is

597
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: just worth forty five whatever it is on the value chart. Well,

598
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: if I'm giving you a third round next year, you

599
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: don't know the exact pick, right, because you don't know

600
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: what my record is gonna be. And that's why most

601
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: teams somewhere between twenty and so if the pick is

602
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: worth on the value chart, let's just I'm just gonna

603
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: use an even number, a hundred points that what you're

604
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: giving them is actually only worth seventy eight points when

605
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: it's a future pick. Same with first rounders. So that

606
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: that's the way I've been told. Teams you know, dictate

607
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: or value you know when you're when you're dictating these

608
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: these terms for a deal, the future picks are are

609
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,719
Speaker 1: never as worth as much as the present picks, and

610
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: I think sometimes we get confused on that. I know

611
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: I have in the past, But yeah, the forty Niners

612
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: have Trent Williams are starting left tackle. Okay, before we

613
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: dive into the Middlecoff mail bag, I want to do

614
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: a couple of things. One, I guess the big news

615
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: of was it Sunday that Jamis Winston signed with the Saints.

616
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: I give James a lot of credit because there are

617
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: countless like is Jamis Winston better player than Kirk Cousins?

618
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: Is Jamis Winston a better player than Derek Carr? I mean,

619
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: I think these are fair questions to ask. Uh. Now,

620
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: you could counter and say, no, they're not. That he

621
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: throws way more picks than them, and maybe he's just

622
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: gonna be a lifetime interception guy. But I know he's

623
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: a more explosive passer in both those two guys. So

624
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: if I could ever get the picks down, he's just

625
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: a more explosive player. I mean, he was a number

626
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: one overall picked for a reason, won a national championship

627
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: for a reason. He's a very, very talented individual. And

628
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: I think the most head scratching part about Jamis's career,

629
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: Remember David Shot told me once they had some questions,

630
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: like about his maturity, but he's like, yeah, he was

631
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: an academic qualifier to Stanford. Like Stanford Stanford d in Alabama,

632
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: in Ohio state, like they can't get anyone into school.

633
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: They have minimums for academics. When it comes to g

634
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: P A and s A T scores and Jamis hit

635
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: him easily. Jamis is really smart, He's just reckless, and

636
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: you know, going to the Saints does a couple of things.

637
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: Want It gives him the chance to resurrect his career,

638
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: take a step back, take a deep breath, get around

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton, get around Drew Brees, and just kind of

640
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: see things from a different view. It also puts them

641
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: in a position that if things go well, Drew Brees,

642
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: for who knows why, already has a contract with NBC,

643
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: he is more than likely going to retire at the

644
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: end of the season, go work in television. Well, then

645
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: what are the Saints gonna need. They're gonna need a

646
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Speaker 1: quarterback because do you know what the Saints have told

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Speaker 1: you now back to back years, Taysom Hill is not

648
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: our backup quarterback. He's our role player. Does a little

649
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: bit of everything. Our backup quarterback with Teddy Bridgewater and

650
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: now is Jamis Winston. And here's what I know we

651
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Speaker 1: can do if Drew Brees goes down. I know we

652
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: can win with Teddy and we should be able to

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Speaker 1: win some games with Jamis. And I think James is

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00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: gonna be in a good position if Drew and Sean

655
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: Payton are signing off on him. Can you imagine if

656
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Speaker 1: Drew goes God, I'm telling you, Sean, this guy. I

657
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: like this guy, like he's gonna be able to put

658
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: in the good words. Shawn's gonna be working with him

659
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: every day. Who's to say that Jamis Winston won't He's

660
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: only twenty six years old, won't be the saint starting

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Speaker 1: quarterback for the next half decade. Sean Payton just told

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Speaker 1: you what he thought. He thought he had the chance

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Speaker 1: to take Jordan love at and he chose Jamis Winston.

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Speaker 1: That's what he did. It's just I mean to me,

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Speaker 1: it's that simple because a couple of years ago he

666
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: was gonna take my homes. This year Jordan's love fell

667
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: right to him. He said, yeah, I don't think he's

668
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Speaker 1: that good. The Packers do, and we'll see. I actually

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Speaker 1: kind of like Jordan Love, but he'd rather have Jameis Winston.

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Speaker 1: And I don't totally blame him. I don't totally blame

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Speaker 1: him at all. I texted around on some good and

672
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Speaker 1: bad drafts. The one name that stood out to me

673
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Speaker 1: was the Falcons, and I think it starts with that

674
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Speaker 1: first pick. Now, I have talked with people that said

675
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: that they thought A J. Terrell like they liked them.

676
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: They just thought he was a second round player. Uh,

677
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Speaker 1: but they passed on Ceedee Lamp and the Cowboys, who

678
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: were in a very very similar position about right, they

679
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Speaker 1: needed other things. They did not force a knee. They

680
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Speaker 1: just picked what they thought was the best player on

681
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Speaker 1: their board, a k a. Seedee Lamp. Why didn't the

682
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Speaker 1: Falcons take Ceedee Lamp? Like I said over the weekend,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't a fan of the Arizona Cardinals taking uh

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00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: Isaiah sevens now in fairness, like they got Eno Benjamin,

685
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: a little wide receiver or excuse me, the little running

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Speaker 1: back from Arizona State in the seventh round. I like,

687
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: you know, Benjamin, that's a pretty good seventh round pick.

688
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 1: But I just I can't get behind not that I

689
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Speaker 1: understand the pick because those pitch picks have worked for

690
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Speaker 1: Arizona in the past. Just Vance Joseph Cliff Kingsbury. Everyone

691
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Speaker 1: keeps saying, this the card You gotta watch out for

692
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Speaker 1: the Cardinals. You gotta watch out for the Cardinals. Can

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00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: we pump the brakes? Cliff Kingsbury couldn't win squat in

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Speaker 1: the Big Twelve, which basically beside Oklahoma and like Iowa

695
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: State and a little bit of Oklahoma's that conference has

696
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: been trash. Couldn't win more than seven games. He had

697
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: pas Trick Mahomes and now his defensive coordinator is terrible.

698
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: How's he gonna win in the NFC West with Pete

699
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: Kyle and even Sean McVeigh. I don't love the Rams though.

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Speaker 1: What I was told is like people that I know

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Speaker 1: in the league, like Cam Akers, the running back from

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Speaker 1: Florida State. But I think the problem is the dude

703
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 1: they drafted last year. I think in the third round

704
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: of running back they don't even like. Is less Need

705
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: a good general manager? Because I don't think he is.

706
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: Is there a chance I got a hot take? Sean

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00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh will have a new general manager next year.

708
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 1: At this time, Less Sneed will not be the GM

709
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Speaker 1: because I think the Rams they've lost a lot of players.

710
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: As a buddy of mine in the league, text me,

711
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: their offensive line stinks, I mean stinks. They lost Corey Littleton,

712
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: who was a big time cover guy who's now on

713
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: the Raiders. Who there, who's gonna play middle linebacker for him? Uh?

714
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Speaker 1: The problem with having a bad offensive line for the Rams.

715
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Speaker 1: Their quarterback can't move. He's not an athletic guy. He

716
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: can't get away. Now that one thing one positive I

717
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: heard was I got this from multiple people. Everyone was

718
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: impressed with the Browns draft. So you know, now the Browns,

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Speaker 1: they've had a good offseason last year, they had a

720
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Speaker 1: good draft this year. To me, the Browns problem has

721
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: not been talent over the years. It's been coaching has

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Speaker 1: been underwhelming. It's been their players. Like the talent hasn't

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Speaker 1: matched up what we've seen on the games. Like is

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield what's he gonna do over quarantine? Is he

725
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: eating cheeseburgers or is he drinking protein shakes, getting lifts

726
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: in and studying the film? You know, to me, it's

727
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 1: gonna come down to Baker Mayfield's maturity. But their team

728
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: is very, very talented. The Chiefs had a really good draft.

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Speaker 1: I mean that the little running back, the linebackers good.

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Speaker 1: But most part actually, I think most of the teams

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Speaker 1: in the first round, I like most of their picks.

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Speaker 1: I would say the one glaring. You know what's gonna

733
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Speaker 1: be interesting is Raider fans think that they've equipped this

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Speaker 1: good team. I just don't know if they have enough

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Speaker 1: blue chip players. There's gonna be a lot of pressure

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Speaker 1: on Eric Card to play well. He's gonna have to

737
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: look like the two thousand sixteen version because if you

738
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 1: just can't, I mean, Gruden ain't gonna go another year

739
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Speaker 1: without making the playoffs and not have a quarterback change.

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Speaker 1: Now he drafted all these weapons. Some guys that I've heard,

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Speaker 1: you know, I've gotten a couple like I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I love that guy in Vegas. So it's gonna

743
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 1: be interesting. Gruden's got a while. Davis to him takes uh,

744
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: you know, guys on on the fringe. Character wise. We'll

745
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: see you know, our Neett, the dude Bowden from Kentucky.

746
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: Not bad guys, but you know what I'm dude, it's

747
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,959
Speaker 1: just a little uh, you know, not perfect pass. Uh.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you know Vegas, it's gonna it's gonna test

749
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Speaker 1: the franchise. You know it really is, but it's gonna

750
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Speaker 1: be fun. Uh So let's dive in the middleuff mail back. Okay,

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00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: what round did Shaye Patterson go in? Last I saw

752
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: today on Twitter? Is it Shaye Patterson didn't even sign

753
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: as an undrafted free agent with anyone? Think about this,

754
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: Michigan had I think ten players drafted only l s

755
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 1: U had more. I think how embarrassing that is. Listen,

756
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 1: I'm a hard, bad guy. But talent ain't their problem

757
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: right now. They have to win more games. Jim, you

758
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: have to get a quarterback. You can't be playing with

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Speaker 1: Shay Patterson, who wouldn't even start in the a F.

760
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: The XFL would have laughed at him. You need to

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00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: get a legitimate NFL type player because you have talent

762
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: everywhere else. You're not gonna win anything in that conference

763
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: is too good Ohio State Wisconsin, James Franklin at Penn State,

764
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: hell Iowa. It's a big boy conference, second best conference

765
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 1: in the country by a mile. It's the SEC and

766
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: the Big Ten. Then the other conferences all kind of

767
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: just stink that God Big twelve has Oklahoma, and the

768
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: PAC twelve has the Ducks and the a SEC has

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Speaker 1: Clemson because the three conferences are struggling right now. But god,

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00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: Shaye Patterson, what a scrub? What happens with can? I'm

771
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: Jamison Dalton? Now, well, Jamis is on the Saints. Do

772
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: they all become backups? Or does Cam get a one

773
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 1: year prove it deal? Where is Cam's one year proven deal?

774
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 1: Dalton to me, you know a team will take him

775
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: as a backup. I could see if he takes a

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Speaker 1: pay cut, you know, Gruden take him as a backup.

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville take him as a backup, you know, Cowboys. See

778
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: who knows someone will take Andy Dalton Cam? I I

779
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: don't know. I can't even give you a prediction. I

780
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: have no clue because I can't see Cam Newton being

781
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: a backup, and I don't totally blame him. The Palace

782
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: at Auburn Hills has to be a top five all

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00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: time name for a pro sports arena. What do you

784
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: think some others are the Palace at Auburn Hills. I

785
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: would say the Rose Bowl would be one. I'd say Lambo,

786
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Speaker 1: I'd say Wrigley Field, I'd say Fenway. Uh I'd say

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Speaker 1: it's probably some cool hockey arenas. Uh, the Big House

788
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: pretty sweet, Cameron Indoor. You know. Now everything's so corporate,

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Speaker 1: so it's like they're all named by different things. Middlecoff

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Speaker 1: mail back. Can you go into depth about what the

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Speaker 1: draft means to Derek? Clearly make or break year, but

792
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: also Gruden has three off seasons to replace him and

793
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: never has well. I think there's a pretty good chance

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00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,919
Speaker 1: that they couldn't, you know, upgrade the position. They didn't

795
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: like Jordan Love more than Car very understandable. Derek car

796
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,760
Speaker 1: is better. Uh, they needed to get them wide receivers.

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00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: They drafted Rugs in the first round. Then they draft

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Speaker 1: the kid from Kentucky and the kid from South Carolina.

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Speaker 1: I think Edwards and Bowden Jr. Bowden Junior. I like

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Speaker 1: that guy from Kentucky Edwards. I don't know that much

801
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: about those highlight tape looked pretty good. Uh. And you

802
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: get to Terrell Williams, you get Darren Waller, you have

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Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs, you have a good offensive line like that.

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Speaker 1: The Raiders should be a top ten offense next year.

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Speaker 1: And that's just not on Derek, that's on Gruden. Like

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Speaker 1: to me, Grew I expected to some dynamic guy, kind

807
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: of like an Andy Reid Sean Payton to meet. Gruden's

808
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: kind of boring as a coach. He wants to just

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00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: like pound the rock and be conservative. Now maybe that's

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00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: because of Derek, but you get Henry Ruggs, like Nick

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00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: Saban once was boring in conservative. Well what do you

812
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: do the last couple of years with all those cats?

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00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: Henry Ruggs, Jerry Judy, Davante Smith, and Waddle threw the

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Speaker 1: ball all over the place. So part of signing sweet

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Speaker 1: wide receivers, you guys start throwing the ball. It's not

816
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: it's not two thousand two anymore. Michael Pittman and Mike

817
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: Alstott ain't walking through that door. And you can run

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00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: the ball. I like Josh Jacobs, but they tried last

819
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 1: year and he got hurt. You gotta throw the football.

820
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: Look at the Chiefs. Look at what Elway did. Drafted Judy,

821
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Speaker 1: then drafted Handler last year, drafted Fant and Lock. They

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Speaker 1: got Melvin Gordon and Philip Lindsay like they're gonna try

823
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Speaker 1: to score points, score points. Hey, John watching the Jordan

824
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 1: dock and I was observing how much more athletic can skill.

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00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: The league is now compared to the nineties, feels like

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00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: mostly everyone can shoot and dribble. That being said, the

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Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen Warriors have to be the best team

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Speaker 1: of all time. Closing line up Steph Clay, Kevin Durant,

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Speaker 1: Draymond and Iggy. Any other teams come close? Yeah, I

830
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: don't think they will just be some lock to beat

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Speaker 1: the ninety six Bulls. I think anytime you've got Michael Jordan's,

832
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: Scottie Pippen and the Worm, you'd have a pretty good chance.

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00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: Phil Jackson's dramatically better coach than Steve curt too. I

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Speaker 1: actually think that the people act like the league is

835
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 1: that much better now, better athletes. Maybe the league's pretty

836
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: athletic back then too, you know. I mean Michael is

837
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: a better athlete than anyone in the league now. So

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00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: good question. I was listening to you and guy on

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Speaker 1: the other podcast and you mentioned ALL twenty two. What

840
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: is the ALL twenty two? It's basically just the It's

841
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: just the tape that the coaches watch so you can

842
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: see every player. Any time you hear a media guy

843
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 1: talk about a owner, a wide receiver or or a safety.

844
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Speaker 1: If they don't have the All twenty two tape their

845
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: full ship because you can't evaluate a corner, a wide receiver,

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00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: or safety without the ALL twenty two. Even sometimes a

847
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: linebacker leaves the tape. Now I can evaluate running back

848
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 1: off TV copy. I could evaluate you know, probably a

849
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 1: center off TV copy. It's tight end and lineman maybe,

850
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: but it gets tough to to do a true evaluation.

851
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: You Uh, you need to have a TV You need

852
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: to have the All twenty two. What do you think

853
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 1: the Cardinals drafting Simmons over a top tackle with the

854
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: eighth pick. I have a feeling a major reason for

855
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 1: that is to have a man to stop Russell Wilson

856
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: from doing his late game heroics. For example. Yeah, I

857
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: think it's a guy to spy Russell Wilson, a guy

858
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: to chase George Kittle when those are four games right there,

859
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: and last year the Niners beat him twice. Actually, I

860
00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: think Arizona beats Seattle one game, right Uh? I mean again,

861
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: I like the guy in theory that he is a

862
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,280
Speaker 1: versatile chess piece, but you have to have a defensive

863
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: coordinator to use them. Brett Venables, the defensive coordinator for Clemson,

864
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 1: makes two point two million dollars. He's the best defensive

865
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: coordinator all college football. He's probably a top five or

866
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: six defensive coordinator in the country. You'd go Zimmer Belichick,

867
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: no order, Fangio. I mean it's a short list venables.

868
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I might be missing someone, but he's he's

869
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: He's probably a top five defensive coordinator in America. And

870
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: that's the guy that used him. If a Rod demanded

871
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 1: a trade, what would be the minimum that the Packers

872
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: would have to get back for them to do it.

873
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: Maybe not this year because everyone is set, but next offseason.

874
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: You know, with his age and his money, it's I

875
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: don't even think it's possible. With the amount of dead cap. Now,

876
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: i'd have to ask a cap guy, can you move

877
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: money around? I don't know exactly how it worked to

878
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: facilitate it, but let's say he demanded a trade. Did

879
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 1: he take a pay cut to make the dead cap

880
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: less and then they could trade him? I think they'd

881
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 1: give him around for for give him away for a

882
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: first round Pick's thirty seven years old. I'd give him

883
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: away for first round pick if you wanted out and

884
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: I was ready to move on. I hope you enjoyed

885
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: the draft as much as we all did. I got

886
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 1: a question for you. Since the Raiders came into two

887
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,439
Speaker 1: thousand nineteen season with hopes of forming their playbook around

888
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: a B, would it be fair that since they drafted Rugs,

889
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: they could blow the dust off that playbook and just

890
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: plug and play. Another small question to add, who was

891
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: your what the fuck pick of the draft? And why? Uh?

892
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: I would say the Rugs thing. He's a little I

893
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 1: mean a B was you know, had sixth straight of

894
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: the best years we've seen in NFL history at wide receiver.

895
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 1: But I do think some of their concepts, I'm sure

896
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: that they wanted to use what a B. Yes, they

897
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 1: can use with the Rugs, some of the deep breaking

898
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: routes I mean rugs to compare to a B is

899
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: not fair to Rugs. He a B was just in

900
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: the peak of his powers. But I'm with you, yes

901
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: they could add some of that. My WTF pick of

902
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: the first round probably was the Raiders. That corner, just

903
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: because I hadn't talked to one person thought that I

904
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: was gonna go in the first round. It's one thing

905
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 1: to go like when no one had been talking about you.

906
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: It's not think to go to nineteen I would say

907
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: the Raiders, you know, it might be Jordan's love, but

908
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: just because the Packers took him, but we expected Jordan's

909
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: love to get I expect him go in the top twenty. Honestly,

910
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: kind of fell I. I think the Raiders have had

911
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: kind of two of the WTF picks in the last

912
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: two years, Cleveland Farrell and then David Arnette. Now I

913
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: think they'd argue, well, if we're taking the WTF picks,

914
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: we're taking them from Ohio State in Clemson. And that

915
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: is the one thing the Raiders have done under this

916
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: administration with Gruden and Mayock is they only draft guys

917
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 1: from like Wow State, Bama, and Clemson. I think they

918
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: have eight Clemson players on their team from the last

919
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: two years. Think about that. Thoughts on the Bears draft,

920
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: where do you put them in the division? I read

921
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: a good article by Dan POMPEII on the tight end

922
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: that they took from Notre Dame. I didn't I'll be

923
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: completely honest, I didn't know that much about him. Uh

924
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: everything I had read as it was a shitty tight

925
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: end draft. I talked to my buddy that works for

926
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: the Bear staff. He's like, we like this guy. A lot.

927
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: Clearly they liked the guy a lot. Take him in

928
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: the second round. Dan Pompeii, uh he, I think talked

929
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: to twenty league executives, so twenty different teams and only

930
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: one team didn't have the guy in the top three rounds.

931
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: The majority of teams said that they would have taken

932
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: him in the second round. So if that guy is good,

933
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: that they desperately need a tight end. Trying to think, oh,

934
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: then they took the corner from Utah. Like the guy

935
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 1: a lot, tall, long, physical corner, press corner. I like

936
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,919
Speaker 1: Jalen Johnson a lot. So I didn't know much about

937
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: the tight end reading the article. People like him. I

938
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: know the Bears like him. Jalen Johnson good player. Don't

939
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 1: know anything about the other guys. And once you, I

940
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: mean their next pick was the fifth round. God, the

941
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: Bears had a crazy draft. Did not have a fifth

942
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 1: round pick, had two second round picks, then did not

943
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: have a third round pick or a fourth round pick.

944
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: That's what happens when you got a double down. To me,

945
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 1: the key with the Bears is gonna be simple. Can

946
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: can the quarterback play improof? Like last year at a

947
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: Trabisky You're just if you're screwed. If that's the level

948
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: of quarterback player you're gonna get. What do you think

949
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: of the Jordan Brooks pick As a Seattle fan, I

950
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: felt it was a bit of a reach and an overdraft,

951
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: and it's not even a position to need. Taking a

952
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 1: run stopping linebacker in the first round doesn't make sense

953
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: for them. What do you think, Well, ah, I'm a

954
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 1: big believer if the guy can be a two or

955
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: excuse me, a three down linebacker, I'm not drafting a

956
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: guy in the first round that can't be a three

957
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,760
Speaker 1: down linebacker. Now, I'd be lying to if I studied

958
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: the guy from Texas Tech. I did not. I knew

959
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 1: about the two guys that we felt like first round layers,

960
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: which were Kenneth Murray and Patrick Queen. I would have

961
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: taken both those guys in the first round. Now they

962
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: took Jordan Brooks over Patrick Queen. But this guy ran

963
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 1: a four or five four, so this guy can move

964
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: and he's a good athlete. Now you say it's not

965
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: a need, well, you need multiple linebackers. Look at the

966
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: forty niners. They have multiple good linebackers. Look at last

967
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: year the Rams had a couple of linebackers. Like good

968
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 1: teams typically have multiple speed linebackers. Chiefs are somewhat of

969
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 1: an outlier. But they passed on Patrick Queen for this guy,

970
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: which will be you know, a pretty dissected you know pick.

971
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 1: Just given who they passed on, they took a linebacker

972
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: and they passed on what I think many thought was

973
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 1: the better, better linebacker. Here's the thing. Look at their division. Uh,

974
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 1: the forty Niners want to run the football. The Rams

975
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: want to run the football and to beat those two teams.

976
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: Like that's like their main competition. Now I'm with you,

977
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: I don't I'd have to do some recon on this guy.

978
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 1: I was not as familiar with him as the other

979
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: who linebackers have taken the first round. Now, if you

980
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: look at John Snyder's career started scolding hot when he drafted. Uh,

981
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: when he drafted the first couple of years, he was

982
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: in Seattle with Pete. You know, from o'coon's to Bobby Wagner's,

983
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: the Russell's to Richards, the cam Chancellors, Earl thomas Is,

984
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: the Irvans, the Byron Maxwells to the Jeremy Lanes. Like

985
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 1: he couldn't miss I mean just sweezies. The he was

986
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,879
Speaker 1: just hitting on him all trading a fourth round pick

987
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: for Mars Shawn Doug Baldwin. I mean, he was just

988
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 1: he was hot. He's been a little bit or miss

989
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: lately and I'm a big John Schnyder guy. But it's

990
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: gonna be tough. This guy's gotta be good because last

991
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: year that the guy they drafted the first round, the

992
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: pass rusher. I think he's from TCU. He was a

993
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: healthy scratch all season long. And what what position were

994
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 1: they in desperate need of pass rusher? Now? I would

995
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: assume that they bring back Clowney, but they need that

996
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: guy they drafted last ye in the first round to

997
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: not suck. Teams have drafted and then also signed free

998
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: agent players who didn't get drafted. Two questions, is the

999
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: strategy for these signings to see if they might get

1000
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,240
Speaker 1: lucky with a free agent? Too many say these players

1001
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: care practice? These players are practice wall players. How many

1002
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: practice wall players because the team have Oh, is there

1003
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: a signing a strategy assigning the free agent players? Uh,

1004
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: you can have ten practice squad players, but you can

1005
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 1: have a ninety man roster. Right now, I think the

1006
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: key with undrafted free agency is like, um, if you're

1007
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: an undrafted free agent wide receiver, you're not gonna go

1008
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: to a team that just drafted to wide receivers because

1009
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 1: those guys aren't gonna get cut over you. Now, if

1010
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: you're a free agent running back and you look at

1011
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: a team's depth chart and you go, well, they got

1012
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: an old running back and one other guy they drafted

1013
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: last year and they didn't draft a running back this year,

1014
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: that's a good spot. So to me, as an undrafted

1015
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 1: free agent, you want to go to a spot where

1016
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: you have a chance to make the team, or a

1017
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: spot where you might have a relationship with a coach

1018
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: coordinator that's gonna coach you. Uh, it's it's it's I mean,

1019
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: you get pretty lucky, you know. There. If you thought

1020
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: the guy was good, you would have drafted him. So

1021
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 1: whenever you see a team that hits on an undrafted

1022
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: free agent, they like the guy, but to think that

1023
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: they knew that guy was gonna be good. And every

1024
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 1: year you see I think, on average, you know, two

1025
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 1: plus undrafted free agents make every team. You know, some

1026
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,919
Speaker 1: teams have like three or four, some teams have none,

1027
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: But I think the average is it's definitely close. I

1028
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: think it's two. Uh, it's just you just find out

1029
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,919
Speaker 1: some guys, you know, for whatever reasons, they just fit.

1030
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 1: With several teams rolling with a nickel corner in their

1031
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: base coverage lately, how might it effect the way scout

1032
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: evaluates a dB or even a linebacker. Many teams have

1033
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,919
Speaker 1: to be cycling middle of the field coverage to allow

1034
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: shade on receiver one without abandoning the two deep shell

1035
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: look or given up a cushion. Love to hear your thoughts.

1036
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: It's a pretty nerdy football pick. When I was in

1037
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 1: the NFL, it was much more of a base defense,

1038
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 1: so your third corner was a bench player. I think

1039
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 1: nowadays you look at it like you see these guys

1040
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: in college because so many corners. You know, if you're

1041
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: an outside corner, maybe you carry the guy inside. If

1042
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: that if that team has, you know in your conference

1043
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 1: that you're playing in college, has a number one wide

1044
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 1: receiver and you follow him, so you have a bunch

1045
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: of tape of seeing that guy play inside. I actually

1046
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: think playing inside is a skill. Sometimes an outside corner

1047
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: is not comfortable inside because everything happens quicker, especially when

1048
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: you're playing a true slot wide receiver. That guy does

1049
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: like an Edelman does most of his work in like

1050
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: a five yard radius. He's going running a quick end,

1051
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: running a quick out. Now, if you're talking about like

1052
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 1: covering a tight end, you know, if you feel comfortable

1053
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: with your nickel to be able to do a lot

1054
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: of different things like maybe Isaiah Simmons, can you just

1055
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: leave him out there and if he needs a lock

1056
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: up against the little wide receiver or he locks up

1057
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Speaker 1: against the tight end. I also think it depends on

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Speaker 1: what coverage you play as a defense. Like you said,

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Speaker 1: if you play a zone coverage, then it's more pressure

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Speaker 1: on your linebackers. But I think all these linebackers are

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Speaker 1: getting drafted now you're not seeing any of these two

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Speaker 1: down mics. Every guy can move. You've got to be

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Speaker 1: able to cover ground. So I always thought that you

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Speaker 1: know a nickel is signed us, you either can do

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Speaker 1: it or not. As a corner. Linebackers now are covering

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Speaker 1: so much more in college just because the game spread out.

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Speaker 1: You see him move around that those guys. If you're

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Speaker 1: just dropping in a zone coverage, those guys, you do

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Speaker 1: have to have some instincts to be a good zone coverage.

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Speaker 1: The zone dropper, whether it's whether it's a corner rural linebacker.

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Speaker 1: To me, it is an instinctive position because you're kind

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Speaker 1: of in no man's land, and you hear coaches talk

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Speaker 1: about this like if you want to get really geeky,

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Speaker 1: like don't just kill grass, don't just be a robot,

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Speaker 1: like three three back pedals back five yards to the right,

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Speaker 1: Like no, you'll be a player, you know, And it's

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Speaker 1: it's a challenging position to evaluate. I think it's why

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Speaker 1: you see so many linebackers and so many defensive backs

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Speaker 1: not be good pros because there's a huge projection element

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Speaker 1: to it. Last episode, you said that Jalen Hurts could

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Speaker 1: be a starting running back on a lot of teams.

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Speaker 1: I brought that opinion to a group and backed it

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Speaker 1: up with facts like his forty times good size for

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Speaker 1: running back and how his TD and rushing totals were

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Speaker 1: more than Swift Acres and Clyde. Where do you think

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Speaker 1: Hurts would have been ranked as a running back prospect

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Speaker 1: and would he been been drafted? Uh? Like if he

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Speaker 1: had just changed his position to running back, I think

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Speaker 1: he would have been in the second or third round

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Speaker 1: because I think he could now probably not in the

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Speaker 1: second round. I mean his value for the Eagles still quarterback,

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Speaker 1: but I would have taken him in the third round.

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Speaker 1: Is just an athlete. Remember we used to see a

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Speaker 1: lot more quote unquote athletes picked back in the day.

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Speaker 1: Back when guys like you knew the guy like Antoine

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Speaker 1: Randall l couldn't play quarterback, You'd be like, yeah, would

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Speaker 1: just draft from the third round, just be an athlete.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't happen as much now because you like these

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Speaker 1: hybrid positions and you're like, wow, we can put him

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Speaker 1: in wildcat and he can still throw a little bit.

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Speaker 1: He was an elite production guy in the SEC as

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Speaker 1: a runner, and just his size, like you say, his physicality,

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Speaker 1: he ain't scared like he ain'ts not a woofs. So

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Speaker 1: I've had I had a friend probably in about October.

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Speaker 1: I remember, like Oklahoma was on and he was he

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Speaker 1: was just texting me about He's like, God, I think

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Speaker 1: this guy could be a starting running back. Now he

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Speaker 1: got better as a thrower, but yeah, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think Jalen Hurts is a very very dynamic runner like

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Speaker 1: Lamar's a dynamic runner because his he's like the fastest

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Speaker 1: guy in the field. I mean he has elite speed.

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Speaker 1: When you watch Jalen run, it's like he's got like

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Speaker 1: a little levy On bell to him, Like you know,

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Speaker 1: he waits for angles and then he hits a corner

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Speaker 1: like he's a natural with a ball in his hands.

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Speaker 1: I mean a natural. I'm I'm a big fan of

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Speaker 1: the of the athlete and the prospect. Now it's risky,

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Speaker 1: like I said, but I understand the risk from the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate everyone listening. Uh, keep entertained during quarantine. We'll just

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Speaker 1: keep on swinging. Uh, the stories might slope down a

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Speaker 1: little bit, so I got some offseason projects. Keep sliding

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Speaker 1: up in those d m s at John Middlecoff is

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Speaker 1: my Instagram handle. You're welcome to come on in and

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Speaker 1: ask me anything you want. Audios, have a good week,

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Speaker 1: See you later. Pos