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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Giants Little Podcast, brought

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Speaker 1: from the Hackensackerpreney Health podcast Studio. Keep getting Better. I

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Speaker 1: am John Schmelk. Thank you so much for being with

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Speaker 1: us today. Everybody, we have our normal Friday interview slash

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Speaker 1: preview podcast. I'm going to talk to Giants tight end

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Speaker 1: Daniel Bellinger. Also going to talk to Giants offensive lineman

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Speaker 1: John Runyon Jr. We're going to have Bob Poppa with

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Speaker 1: the head coach of the New York Football Giants, Brian Dable,

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Speaker 1: and Zach Berman, who covers the Eagles for the Athletic,

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Speaker 1: will join us to preview Philadelphia. All right, let's start

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Speaker 1: off with my long interview with Giants tight end Daniel Bellinger.

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Speaker 1: Very happy this week to be joined by Giants tight

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Speaker 1: end Daniel Bellinger. Belly, what's up man?

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me man, Happy to be with you.

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Speaker 1: Let's start here. Four catches idiot yards to you. Last

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Speaker 1: week career high touchdown. What went well for you last

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Speaker 1: week that allows you to put up that type of production.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you know with guys going down, myself,

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Speaker 5: THEO and tight end group as a whole lot to

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Speaker 5: step up make some plays, and I felt like we

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: You guys have leaned into tight end stuff the last

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Speaker 1: three weeks. Over forty twelve personnel last three games, the

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Speaker 1: six most in the NFL. How has these personnel changes

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Speaker 1: you think to help the offense? And how have you

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Speaker 1: seen it maybe impact how defenses are approaching you with

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Speaker 1: having two tight ends on the field.

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I mean it gives our offense a lot

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Speaker 5: of versatility, allows us to do a lot of different

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Speaker 5: things in the run game and the pass game. It

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Speaker 5: helps having tight ends that can do both, and it

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Speaker 5: just keeps the defense on their toes. You know, they

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Speaker 5: have to either put in nickel defense or base defense

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Speaker 5: to kind of switch things up, and they're not sure

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Speaker 5: what we're going to do, and that gives our offense

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Speaker 5: and edge.

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Speaker 1: You think two tight ends, you generally think under center stuff.

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Speaker 1: But you guys still been doing largely a lot of

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Speaker 1: shotgun with the two tight ends. Is there a difference

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Speaker 1: for you guys with two tight ends, whether it's shotgun

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Speaker 4: Oh, not too much.

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Speaker 5: You know helps Jackson, you know, get his keys and

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Speaker 5: read the defense a little bit better in the shotgun,

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Speaker 5: but it doesn't change too much for.

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Speaker 4: The tight ends.

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Speaker 1: How have you seen teams? Have you seen them lean

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Speaker 1: into more base? Have you seen them either maybe put

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Speaker 1: them just how they're approaching you using two tight ends one?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, typically you know they'll add guys in the box

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Speaker 5: and go more base defense. But you know when they

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Speaker 5: do that, you know, catch Calf and Jackson and they

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Speaker 5: make they have to call us and make the play

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Speaker 1: Now, we've also seen Camp Scattaboo kind of emerge over

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Speaker 1: the past few weeks, and it's more of a power

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 5: You know Scat's a special guy and he's gonna run

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Speaker 4: So defense has to count for that.

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Speaker 5: And you know when you have a guy like Scott

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Speaker 1: You say he's a special guy. What look, I think

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Speaker 1: fans have their impression of him. I see what I see.

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Speaker 1: But as a teammate in the huddle that plays with him,

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Speaker 5: One word, it'd have to be energy. The guy just

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Speaker 1: All right, Take me behind the scenes a little bit,

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Speaker 1: because in the offseason and even last year, you guys

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Speaker 1: are a very heavy three wide receiver, eleven personnel team,

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Speaker 1: that's what you practiced a lot of in the summer.

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Speaker 1: Now you have twelve personal packages and all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: Did you have to transform some of those eleven personnel

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean somewhat of both. You know, with the

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Speaker 5: two tight end stuff, we got to implement new things.

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Speaker 5: And kind of different nuances to the offense, but overall,

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Speaker 5: you know, it's a similar offense. We're just kind of

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Speaker 5: me and THEO can run some of these receiver routes,

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Speaker 1: And we've seen a lot of i'll call it fullback

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Speaker 1: stuff out of shotgun. We're cams and pistol and either

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Speaker 1: you were THEO or next to the quarterback kind of

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I feel comfortable with it. I've been

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Speaker 5: doing it for a few years, so definitely definitely the comfortable,

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Speaker 5: comfortable spot for myself and THEO. But it just again

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Speaker 5: brings versatility to our offense, allows us to do different

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Speaker 5: A gap, and it also allows us to kind of

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Speaker 5: giving the defense different looks and kind of different things

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Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you one route that I know

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Speaker 1: year before, where your line up as a full back,

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Speaker 1: not even like dump off. You're running like deep flag

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Speaker 4: One hundred percent.

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Speaker 5: You know, I think the coach you do a good

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Speaker 5: job of trying to find these different mismatches, and you know,

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Speaker 5: it's tough. It's tough for a linebacker when you know

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Speaker 5: you have two three times where we're leading up as

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Speaker 5: a fullback, hitting them in the mouth, and then two

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Speaker 5: plays later it's slipping the right pass and for a

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Speaker 1: Talk about how well the offensive line has played over

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Speaker 1: the last three four weeks since Andrew's come back. I

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Speaker 1: talked to John Running about this the other day, and

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Speaker 1: he didn't say no. He didn't say yes, but he

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Speaker 1: well they're playing? Is I feel like it's flowing on

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Speaker 1: the radar a little bit, to be honest with you, And.

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Speaker 5: You know some of this comes from from the younger

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Speaker 5: and you know they're playing gritty, they're playing tough, and

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Speaker 1: Do you find that you guys are being asked to

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Speaker 1: chip a little bit less now that you have Andrew

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Speaker 4: Dred percent him and him Andrew Maine.

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Speaker 1: You know they's playing great.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they're both playing. They're doing great jobs on the edges.

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Speaker 5: So again it allows us to kind of open up

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Speaker 5: more and not how to do so much chip help?

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Speaker 1: How does that impact you if you have to chip

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Speaker 1: Does that change the type of routes you can even run?

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Speaker 1: How does that impact you?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it changes our timing a lot. You know,

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Speaker 5: when you chip, you got to make sure you get

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Speaker 5: because you don't want to, you know, push him up

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Speaker 1: I feel like this hasn't impacted you guys at all

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Speaker 1: this year, but I've seen with other teams if there's

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Speaker 1: sometimes the chip actually can be detrimental to the tackle

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Speaker 1: do you do you communicate pre snap how you're gonna chip?

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Speaker 5: you can't hear the snap count and everything, and so

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Speaker 5: we work on it pretty consistently, just kind of getting

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Speaker 5: the huddle or as we're going to the line, like hey,

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Speaker 5: you're gonna get a chip here. That way he knows

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Speaker 5: he can get a different PAS set when he has

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 1: Asked you about Scataboo. I gotta ask you about Dart.

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Speaker 1: Talk about in the locker room. You know, rookie, he's

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Speaker 1: you know, he's rocking the chain. He's got some swag

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Speaker 1: to him. Give me like the locker room, Like what

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Speaker 1: makes Jackson Dart the guy?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, one word for him is just moxie.

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Speaker 5: You know, he's got that moxie to kind of in

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Speaker 5: that swager going in the locker room and he he

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Speaker 5: you know, you wouldn't think he's a rookie, you know

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Speaker 5: what I mean, the way he kind of leads us,

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Speaker 5: the way he kind of understands the offense, can read

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Speaker 5: a defense and put the ball where it needs to go.

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Speaker 5: He's definitely ahead of his years and he's an exciting player.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: I think from the outside everyone kind of waits the

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Speaker 1: everything is just to see stuff he hasn't seen before

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Speaker 1: why do you think he's been able to be so

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Speaker 5: Switch it up too much, but different different kind of

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Speaker 5: It's it's like a chess game because it's like, obviously

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Speaker 1: Two more things on the defense, they're gonna have Jalen

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Speaker 4: Yeah, two great players.

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Speaker 5: You know, we're fully aware of how good they are,

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Speaker 5: understand that. Listen, if they make a play, we have

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Speaker 1: Finally, you kind of mentioned this when I talked about

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Speaker 4: One hundred percent.

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Speaker 5: I think they're going to be ready for that. We

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Speaker 1: Belly, best luck, appreciate the time.

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Speaker 4: Thank you appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: I talked to Zach Berman from The Athletic about everything

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Speaker 1: we turn our attention to the Giants' opponent. We welcome in.

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Speaker 1: See your NFL rider for the Athletic also covers the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: He is Zach Berman and former New York Giant beat rider. Zach,

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Speaker 1: what's going on, man? How are you?

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Speaker 3: I am doing great. Always good to speak with you.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, man, good to talk to you too. So this

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it certainly abnormal.

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Speaker 2: Interestingly, it's something that happened with Eagles and Giants two

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Speaker 3: The fact that the Giants played.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So what's been the reaction to Dart, Jackson Dart,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's I think even though before he got

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Speaker 3: The best players on the Eagles. Eagles choose to keep

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Speaker 3: him in the slot.

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Speaker 2: I'm always curious to see if, if if they change

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Speaker 2: Cooper to Jean's usage and put someone else in the slot,

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Speaker 2: just because you.

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Speaker 3: Know, Cooper's so good wherever he plays.

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Speaker 2: But if they stick the form, you'll see Keeley Ringo

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Speaker 2: out there opposite Quinyon Mitchell. Eagles could also play more

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Speaker 2: base defense, which is something that they can consider doing

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Speaker 2: now that in Ni Kobe Dean's back from injury.

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Speaker 1: And by the way the Giants have leaned, and that's

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Speaker 1: actually a good, good, good direction to go here. The

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Speaker 1: Giants have really leaned into twelve personnel two tight ends

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Speaker 1: over the past couple of weeks. Do you think we

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Speaker 1: might see more of that twelve personnel if the Giants

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Speaker 1: do roll out sixty seventy percent twelve personnel like we've

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Speaker 1: seen the last couple of weeks, where then you would

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Speaker 1: have Cooper Dejan shift outside in those more traditional base packages.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: You saw that against the Vikings last week, and I

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Speaker 2: think it's actually a way that the Eagles like to play,

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Speaker 2: especially compared to last year.

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Speaker 3: They you know, last year they wanted to be in Nickel.

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Speaker 2: You want to have Cooper the gene on the field

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Speaker 2: this year when you just look at the combination of

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Speaker 2: players that they have, and especially the strength that they

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Speaker 2: have at linebacker, and then some different things. If Nikobe

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Speaker 2: Dean's on the field and you can put your Jah

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Speaker 2: hot Camp on the edge and base, there's different ways

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Speaker 2: around it. So I do think the Eagles will play

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Speaker 2: more bass so long as the Giants for in twelve personnel.

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Speaker 1: All right, I want to jump to the offensive side

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Speaker 1: of the ball here now, Zach. I watched the Eagles

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Speaker 1: offense on the All twenty two last week against the Vikings.

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Speaker 1: Tell me if my impression is right or wrong. The

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Speaker 1: offense looked largely the same, except they happened to hit

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Speaker 1: some really big plays that got the ball in the

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Speaker 1: end zone. Was that the main difference to you? Or

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Speaker 1: were there more fundamental things that you think were different

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Speaker 1: or better for the Eagles offense when they kind of

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Speaker 1: blew up against the Vikings last week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the end result was was different, But fundamentally or structurally, uh,

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Speaker 2: they they were under center more than they've been at

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Speaker 2: any point this season, and I think that opened things up,

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Speaker 2: especially when you look at you know, the the big

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Speaker 2: touchdown to Devonte Smith that came with the under center

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Speaker 2: play action and that was, you know, really the second

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Speaker 2: time they ran under center play action all season. It's

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Speaker 2: not something you typically see. And so uh they were

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Speaker 2: they were under center more. I think that that forced

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Speaker 2: the defense to uh to play them differently and then

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Speaker 2: Eagles were able to connect the two. You know, their

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Speaker 2: their best players downfield, and so you know, Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 2: had a perfect passer rating when the best.

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Speaker 3: Games he's played.

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Speaker 2: We know a J Brown DeVante Smith might be the

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Speaker 2: best you know, a wide receiver combination in the league.

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Speaker 2: Eagles haven't been able to get them going, and they

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Speaker 2: were able to get them going there and and it's

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Speaker 2: it's still the.

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Speaker 3: Running game is lagging behind.

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Speaker 2: But when they were under center, with the respect that

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Speaker 2: the running game gets, uh and I think you can

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Speaker 2: do some things out of play action there that really

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Speaker 2: open things up downfield.

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Speaker 1: How do they get this running game going? It doesn't

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Speaker 1: look like Cam Jurgens is gonna play. You can correct

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Speaker 1: me if you have different information on that, but I

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Speaker 1: think to me, everything that has defined the Eagles struggles

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Speaker 1: this year, especially with the run game but even some

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Speaker 1: in the past game towards the pass pro has just

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Speaker 1: been the offensive line has not played to the same level. Zach,

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Speaker 1: Why do you think that is and do you think

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Speaker 1: that's frankly gonna change at some point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great question. I think it's something they're

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Speaker 3: trying to figure out in.

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Speaker 2: The building here, and I agree the offensive line hasn't

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Speaker 2: played to the level it's played in the past. I

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Speaker 2: do think though a lot of it's a numbers game.

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Speaker 2: Is you know, defenses are so are so focused in

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Speaker 2: on stopping the run against the Eagles this year, and

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Speaker 2: you know, the passing game hasn't necessarily taken advantage of

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Speaker 2: it the way they they needed to until last week,

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Speaker 2: of course, but the Eagles bread and butter always always

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Speaker 2: needs to be the running game when you have that

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Speaker 2: offensive line and you have Saquon Barkley. Now you mentioned

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Speaker 2: Cam Jurgens. Yeah, I mean Cam Jurgens wasn't at practice

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Speaker 2: on Wednesday. The Eagles practice in a few minutes here.

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Speaker 2: We'll see if he's out there today and then what

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Speaker 2: Eagles do if he's not out there, Because it wouldn't

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Speaker 2: surprise me if Landon Dickerson, who was their left guard.

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Speaker 2: You know, he actually didn't play in that first game

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Speaker 2: against the Giants, but is their Pro Bowl left guard.

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Speaker 2: They can slide him over to center. I think he's

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Speaker 2: a better center than Brett Toath, who replaced Cam Jurgens

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Speaker 2: last week. There's a few different combinations that they might

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Speaker 2: need to look at there, but the reality is it

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Speaker 2: starts up front and then you know Saquon is and

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Speaker 2: I don't need to tell you or your listeners, reviewers.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's one of the best players in the league.

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Speaker 2: He hasn't been able to get those home run runs

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Speaker 2: this year, and that's that's kind of what's missing.

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Speaker 3: And so when you look at the yards per carry,

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 2: It's really those explosive gains that change everything, and he

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Speaker 2: hasn't been able to get those off this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, seventeen rushes of twenty more yards last year. Doesn't

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Speaker 1: have one yet this year, which is just amazing when

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Speaker 1: you think about all right, final question, an you got

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Speaker 1: to get the practice zac anything that we missed that

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Speaker 1: I did not to ask you about that has been

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Speaker 1: kind of focused of the media down there. The questions

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Speaker 1: you guys are asking the coaches and players or that

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Speaker 1: the fans have kind of really attached themselves to as

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Speaker 1: they try to kind of and it's hard to say.

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Speaker 3: What's wrong with the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: Was they're five and two and they're in first place,

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Speaker 1: but trying to get them play into their peak level.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think as far as improving them,

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Speaker 2: it's it's it's getting the offense going. But as far

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Speaker 2: as a big story out of Philly this week, and

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Speaker 2: it's it is relevant to to to this game, is

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Speaker 2: you know, Brandon Graham comes out of retirement rejoins the Eagles,

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Speaker 2: and I mean from a like leadership perspective, that's a

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Speaker 2: big deal. But but from a football perspective, Eagles are

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Speaker 2: thin on the edge rusher spot. Azizo Jilari, the former Giant,

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's gonna play this with this this week.

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Speaker 2: So the Eagles have three healthy edge rushers, not including

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Speaker 2: Brandon Graham. So Brandon Graham, who's who's been golfing and

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Speaker 2: been on his couch, have been in you know, in

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Speaker 2: the media for the past you know, seven weeks, he

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Speaker 2: could very well.

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Speaker 3: Be active for this game.

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Speaker 2: Uh, it wouldn't surprise me given the fact that now

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Speaker 2: that you know the Eagles aren't. Aren't saying that that's

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Speaker 2: the case, and they could call someone up from the

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Speaker 2: practice squad. But if they don't activate Graham, they only

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Speaker 2: have three healthy edge rushers.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's the way they want to go

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Speaker 3: into a game.

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Speaker 1: Tell the folks, I think you'll find all your great words, Zach.

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Speaker 1: This is awesome.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. Yeah, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: The athletic you know, I cover the team there, so

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Speaker 3: Buddy, look forward to it.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: awesome stuff from him. Now, let's talk to Giants offensive

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Speaker 1: lineman John Runyon Junior about the Giants offensive line play

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Speaker 1: and whether or not this last three game stretches one

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Speaker 1: of the best stretches he thinks this Giants offensive line

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Speaker 1: has had since he's been here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I think slowly, we've been getting better and better each

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Speaker 6: week and it's really starting to, you know, come to

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Speaker 6: you know, this culmination. I feel like we've been playing

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Speaker 6: really well, really consistent, and we're still getting better and

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Speaker 6: I still think we have so much more space to

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Speaker 6: continue to grow and is really encouraging, and that's what.

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Speaker 4: We kind of wanted to going into the season.

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Speaker 6: We were really better in offensive line, and it's about

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Speaker 6: time restart trying to take over games.

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Speaker 1: And I know it's not just Andrew coming back and

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Speaker 1: it clicks into Warks. I think it kind of just coincided.

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Speaker 1: But what is it? A bit about his return and

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Speaker 1: becoming looking more like himself that's gonna helped the whole

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Speaker 1: group played together as a unit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I have him coming back.

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Speaker 6: He's he's the leader of offense, of offensive line, especially

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Speaker 6: up front, and getting him back there, you know that

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Speaker 6: the the blind side is going to be completely locked down. Uh,

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Speaker 6: you don't really have to worry about that, so we

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Speaker 6: can afford help on certain plays elsewhere. And I have

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Speaker 6: to worry about now that Andrew's gonna get his job done.

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Speaker 6: And you know he helps everybody out in the run game,

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Speaker 6: man past game and getting everything communicated as well. So

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Speaker 6: he's just been a you know, a great great having

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Speaker 6: him back.

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Speaker 1: Tyler Tracy is a good runner, like Skataboo is a

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Speaker 1: different style runner. Right, He's always falling forward, He's getting

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Speaker 1: an extra couple of yards in every play. How does

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Speaker 1: it change for you guys blocking from o of a

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Speaker 1: downholl runner like him, who's more of a power guy.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, you just gotta kind of get in

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Speaker 6: front of guys and uh cover him up. And the

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Speaker 6: plays never over because, like you said, he's gonna hit somebody,

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Speaker 6: he's gonna fall forward. So when you're black ruth himing there,

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Speaker 6: you got to keep the feet running, watch out for

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Speaker 6: your elbows because he will run into them as well.

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Speaker 6: And you give him a little space and hit it

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Speaker 6: downhill for sure, So he's gonna hit the first hole

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Speaker 6: that he sees. And you know it's a good thing.

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Speaker 6: We're always getting your positive yards with him.

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Speaker 1: And then finally, when you have a guy like Jackson

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Speaker 1: play's never dead. How does that affect how you guys

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Speaker 1: kind of go about your business and pass pro.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we kinda just talked about we have to get

666
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Speaker 6: the black to infinity. You never know, you never know

667
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Speaker 6: what's gonna, you know, happen when he's got the ball

668
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 6: back there. Like you said, he plays on time a lot.

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Speaker 6: But you know, another really good part about his games

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Speaker 6: is either way he extends it. He's really slippery out

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Speaker 6: of the pocket. So you know when you feel the

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Speaker 6: d lineman stop and then n accelerat again, you know

673
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Speaker 6: he's back there dancing. So you know, it's a it's

674
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Speaker 6: kind of a mindset, does offensive lineman you're blocking verse

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Speaker 6: six seven, maybe eight seconds, He's moving around the field

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Speaker 6: and you just got to stay alive. I've been trying

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Speaker 6: to try to help them out, let them push them

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Speaker 6: down the field because as you see, you know that's

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Speaker 6: a lot where the big plays coming to a cow

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Speaker 6: when he's stepping out of the pocket and throwing it

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Speaker 6: down the field.

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Speaker 1: John appreciate him.

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Speaker 3: A thank you, jer thank you.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff from John Ronyan Junior. Don't forget to interfer

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Speaker 1: the voice of the Giants, Bob Papa, talk to the

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Speaker 1: head coach of the Giants, Brian Dable.

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Speaker 7: It's always we're joined by the head coach of the

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Speaker 7: New York Giants, Brian Dable. Giants take on the Philadelphia

694
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Speaker 7: Eagles and coach how difficult is it when you're playing

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Speaker 7: a team this close to when you last played them

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Speaker 7: or is it difficult?

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Speaker 8: No, it's not difficult in terms of your preparations. I

698
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 8: mean it was a different week obviously, the first game

699
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Speaker 8: we played them. Short week, you don't have as many

700
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Speaker 8: things in you know, you spend a lot of time

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Speaker 8: in a short amount of time to get a lot

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Speaker 8: of stuff. You know, they have one game, You've already

703
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:03,959
Speaker 8: looked at all the other games, They've looked at all

704
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Speaker 8: your other games. You know, you played one game in between,

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Speaker 8: and it's kind of business as usual.

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Speaker 7: One of the things in their win last week that

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Speaker 7: was impressive was the fact that they held Minnesota to

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Speaker 7: one for six in the red zone, just when you

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Speaker 7: think about trying to attack them and deal with what

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00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 7: they have defense, and they have carter back in this

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Speaker 7: game that they didn't have in the game that you

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Speaker 7: played against them. What made them so good last week

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Speaker 7: in their red zone defense?

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Speaker 8: Well, it goes down to number one players and number two.

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Speaker 8: You know, Vic does a good job with his scheme

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Speaker 8: down there. They're technically sound. You know, when they do

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Speaker 8: play man, they play tight, and then when they play zone,

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Speaker 8: they have a very good understanding of how to match

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Speaker 8: things and push coverage. And you know that'll be a

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Speaker 8: big part of this game, is the red zone on

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Speaker 8: both sides of the ball. They're pretty productive at it

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Speaker 8: on offense as well.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, let's talk about the offensive leak because

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Speaker 7: last week the quarterback had a perfect rating. They were

725
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Speaker 7: able to get Smith going, Brown made big plays. You

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Speaker 7: mentioned the red zone. They're fourteen touchdowns and seventeen trips

727
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Speaker 7: goal to goal thirteen touchdowns and fourteen trips. In fact,

728
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Speaker 7: their only stop was the Cordell flot pick in that

729
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Speaker 7: Thursday night game. What makes them so difficult to deal with,

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Speaker 7: especially when they get inside the twenty, Well, they.

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Speaker 8: Have a good offensive line and good backs. They have

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Speaker 8: a quarterback that I think plays at a high level,

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Speaker 8: can beat you both ways, and then they have you know,

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Speaker 8: perimeter guys that are tough matchups. So they execute it well.

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Speaker 8: You know, they've been very productive with it. They got

736
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Speaker 8: a good scheme and we're gonna have to do a

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Speaker 8: good job down there.

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Speaker 7: You know, for the fans listening, they don't necessarily understand

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Speaker 7: and sometimes they don't believe it, like the twenty four

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Speaker 7: hour rule. When you suffer a disappointment like you guys

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Speaker 7: had last week, fans kind of carry it throughout the

742
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Speaker 7: course of the week and they don't realize like that

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Speaker 7: everybody really once Wednesday comes, you're just like locked into

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00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 7: the next week's preparation. Have you noticed that the focus

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Speaker 7: has been pretty good all things considered what happened last week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely.

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Speaker 8: You got to be consistent with your with your approach, coaching, playing,

748
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Speaker 8: and whether you have a big win or you have

749
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Speaker 8: a tough loss or you have a bad loss, you

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Speaker 8: have to move on to the next week. And you know,

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Speaker 8: you only have a certain amount of days to get

752
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Speaker 8: ready for a team, whether it's your film preparation, your practices,

753
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Speaker 8: your extra meetings, how you take care of your body,

754
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Speaker 8: and all that matters leading up to the next week.

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Speaker 7: Obviously, Philadelphia is the defending Super Bowl champions and we

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Speaker 7: all know what it's like when you go down to

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Speaker 7: Philadelphia in the hostile environment. Jackson Dart, Yeah, last week,

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Speaker 7: that's a hostile environment. That's a super loud place. New

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Speaker 7: Orleans is a super loud place. Does the fact that

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Speaker 7: he played in the SEC help him prepare a little

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Speaker 7: bit more for these adverse situations than maybe a quarterback

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Speaker 7: that didn't come from that conference and from a program

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Speaker 7: that plays in a conference like that.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'd say there's some truth to that. You know,

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Speaker 8: I was down in the SEC for a year, and

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Speaker 8: you know, it's it's loud. It's Philly's going to be loud.

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Speaker 8: It's like you said, Denver was loud. And I mean

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Speaker 8: the biggest thing is being able to communicate and you know,

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Speaker 8: operate at a high level when the surrounding conditions, the noise,

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Speaker 8: you know, can affect the communication. And you know he's

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Speaker 8: done it, you know, at a high level. I'd say

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Speaker 8: in college had a lot of loud places, you know,

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Speaker 8: certainly ones that I've been down to and you can't

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Speaker 8: hear yourself. And you know, last week that like that,

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Speaker 8: and this week we'll be like that as well.

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Speaker 7: Let's talk a little about the running game. Obviously, Scataboo

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Speaker 7: has given the team a lot of energy. I've been

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Speaker 7: maintaining that. You know, if you can get Tyrone Tracy

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Speaker 7: going along with the veteran steady hand, that singletary brings

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Speaker 7: to the table. You know, it really helps you guys

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Speaker 7: maybe open up a little bit even more offensively about

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Speaker 7: what you could be and how good you can be.

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Speaker 7: How important was it to get him, you know, going

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Speaker 7: a little bit last week to create those combinations that

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Speaker 7: you can use.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think anytime you get the ball in any

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Speaker 8: one of our skilled players hands, it's important. You know,

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Speaker 8: the run game is important. It takes things off the quarterback.

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Speaker 8: But you know it's also run game has also been

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Speaker 8: better because of the quarterback, So it's a combination of things.

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Speaker 8: You know, it was good to see Tracy, you know

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Speaker 8: hit that play was into blitz zero. You know it

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Speaker 8: was blocked very well and he did a good job

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Speaker 8: with his track and you know wasn't touched, So you

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Speaker 8: know it's important for for him to play well. Motor

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Speaker 8: Scatt Jackson offensive line. You know, the run gay helps

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Speaker 8: everybody coach.

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Speaker 7: Finally, you know, playing a team twice in three weeks,

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Speaker 7: are there are there a lot of wrinkles that either

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Speaker 7: side can put in or is it kind of like, okay,

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Speaker 7: we have a general idea of what they want to do,

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00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 7: they have a general idea what we what we do well.

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Speaker 7: There'll be some wrinkles in here, but at the end

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Speaker 7: of the day, like we know them, they know us.

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Speaker 7: It's who makes the block or who makes the catch,

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Speaker 7: or who makes the tackle, who makes the right read

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00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,719
Speaker 7: at the right time. That's really going to be what

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Speaker 7: decides this game.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think you said it. You said it best

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Speaker 8: right there. It's going to come down to fundamental execution.

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Speaker 8: You can only do so many things. You're kind of

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00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 8: in the you know, mid part of the season if

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Speaker 8: you will, and you know, you watch a lot of

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Speaker 8: film of all the games they've played. They do the

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Speaker 8: same to us, and ultimately it's going to come down to,

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Speaker 8: you know, making a contested catch or breaking up a

817
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Speaker 8: contested throw, or getting off a block to make a tackle,

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Speaker 8: or making the right read, or turning the ball over

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Speaker 8: on defense, taking care of it on offense, doing a

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Speaker 8: good job in the kicking game. I mean, those are

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Speaker 8: the things. Playing well in the red zone, playing good

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Speaker 8: on third down, you know, that's what's going to matter

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Speaker 8: the most.

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Speaker 7: Coach, We appreciate a couple of minutes.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Pop, great stuff from Daves. We also thank John Runyon,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Bellinger, and Zach Berman for joining us on this

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Speaker 1: Friday preview edition of The Giants Total Podcast, brought to

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Speaker 1: everyone that joined us, we thank them. I am John Schmelke.

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Speaker 1: then of course you have our pregame show on WFAN

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Speaker 1: at eleven am on Sunday morning. Thanks for being with us.

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