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Speaker 1: Wow, everybody, It's Wednesday, March thirteenth, twenty twenty four. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where we've agreed to terms.

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Speaker 1: It's me and your man, MG, Marcus Grant, joined by

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Speaker 1: Michael f. Florio and Lakwan Jones. Gentlemen, I usually like

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Speaker 1: to start with some sort of happy talk. We got

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Speaker 1: a lot to talk about, though, so I hope that

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Speaker 1: free agency has treated you well through the first couple

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Speaker 1: of days. I guess the negotiating period as the NFL

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Speaker 1: likes to call it, legal tampering window. As we record

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Speaker 1: this right about noon Pacific time on Wednesday, we're about

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Speaker 1: an hour away from the new league year officially beginning

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Speaker 1: when all of these deals become official, these trains actually

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Speaker 1: officially go through. All of that stuff is going to

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Speaker 1: be happening in about an hour from now. Chances are,

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Speaker 1: because this is going to be a longer show, we

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Speaker 1: may even see some movement while we are recording. So

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Speaker 1: I know, I've got my Twitter feed up. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you guys do as well, so we will jump in

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Speaker 1: and add anything as it happens. So let's dive in here.

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Speaker 1: Let's start, though, vellas with the fact that, at least

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Speaker 1: for this year, running backs matter again. Last year, this

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Speaker 1: time to talk was how none of these guys were

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Speaker 1: getting signed. You know, you had Austin Eckler setting up

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Speaker 1: zoom meetings for running backs to try and help them

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Speaker 1: get paid. It just didn't really seem to work. This year,

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Speaker 1: a lot of guys able to sign some deals very quickly,

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Speaker 1: partially because there are a lot of big names out there,

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Speaker 1: partially because gms don't seem enamored with this draft class.

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Speaker 1: So let's get started with Derrick Henry. The King, still

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Speaker 1: the King, except now he'll be doing his thing in purple,

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Speaker 1: which is a royal color. He's moving to Baltimore two years,

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Speaker 1: sixteen million dollars with the Baltimore Ravens. I would think

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Speaker 1: we are all happy with this, Florio, this is this

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Speaker 1: sounds like a good deal for us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this. I mean when we did our

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Speaker 2: previous show last week, I think all of us were

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Speaker 2: hoping that he went to the Baltimore Ravens. And Derrick

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Speaker 2: Henry last year is still a top ten fantasy running back,

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Speaker 2: but he wasn't putting up the video game numbers that

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Speaker 2: we've kind of grown accustomed to. Derrick Henry, and he's

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Speaker 2: getting up there in age and in career workloads. So

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Speaker 2: I think there was going to be a lot of people,

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Speaker 2: or there was at least reasons to doubt Derek Henry

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Speaker 2: or be skeptical about Derrick Henry for fantasy purposes. I

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Speaker 2: don't care about any of those reasons anymore because of

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Speaker 2: the team that he's playing for.

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Speaker 1: Let's go.

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Speaker 2: We know the Ravens are going to be one of

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Speaker 2: the best offenses in football. There's going to be plenty

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Speaker 2: of scoring opportunities. Gus Edwards at thirteen touchdowns last year,

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Speaker 2: Henry could easily, I think, not only approach that number,

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Speaker 2: but maybe even top it. I think we maybe could

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Speaker 2: see Derek Henry catch more passes than we have largely

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Speaker 2: become accustomed to seeing. So he is still a locked

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Speaker 2: and loaded RB one for me, and all of those

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Speaker 2: other concerns they don't like. Good luck stopping the option

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Speaker 2: with Lamar and Derek Henry. And that's the other thing

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Speaker 2: on the Titans, even when they had a J Brown

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Speaker 2: or who DeAndre Hopkins, defenses were loading the box against

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Speaker 2: Derrick Henry because of Lamar and how dynamic and explosive

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Speaker 2: he is. Both as a runner and a thrower. I

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Speaker 2: don't think you're gonna be able to do that anymore.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't think you can do that at all.

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Speaker 1: It's funny. I tweeted out the you know a meme

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Speaker 1: about defenses having to deal with Lamar and Derrick Henry

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Speaker 1: a couple times a year, and Smatter responded with a

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Speaker 1: brown like, the Browns are gonna have problems with it,

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Speaker 1: And they show me a list of all the Derek

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Speaker 1: Henry performances against the Browns, And my thought was they

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Speaker 1: also didn't have to deal with Lamar Jackson at the

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Speaker 1: very same time, So I think that's something to deal with.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Lakwan. Over the last six years, Derek Henry

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Speaker 1: has averaged just over thirteen rushing touchdowns per season. Let

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Speaker 1: let's just set it at thirteen over or under in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: He is going to crush them. Man, It's gonna be over.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: We saw Gus Edwards put up thirteen touchdowns last year.

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Speaker 3: So you're inserting King Henry. You're inserting this guy that

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Speaker 3: is hard to bring down. He's one of the best

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Speaker 3: runners in stack boxes. There's nothing you can do against

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Speaker 3: Derreck Henry. And this dude is going to put Like

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Speaker 3: I don't want to get over dramatic, but this dude

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Speaker 3: might put up twenty plus touchdowns with this system when

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Speaker 3: with Lamar Jackson as a threat as well. So we're

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Speaker 3: looking at this guy in fantasy where obviously his ADP

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Speaker 3: is gonna shoot up just based on this movement here.

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Speaker 1: No, that's the question I do have, is though, where

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Speaker 1: his ADP goes because as of last check, when I

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Speaker 1: looked yesterday on Underdog, he was the RB fifteen. Yep,

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Speaker 1: but I feel like he was the RB fifteen with

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Speaker 1: people sort of anticipating him going to Baltimore. I mean,

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Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong, but it felt like a lot of

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Speaker 1: us already sort of had him penciled in to the

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Speaker 1: Ravens offense. I think there's movement, but I mean, Florida,

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Speaker 1: is it enough to get him in the top twelve?

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Speaker 2: I think think he should be in the top like CMC, Breese, Hall,

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Speaker 2: Bjon Robinson, Jonathan Taylor, Kyen Williams, Gibbs. I'm taking all

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Speaker 2: those guys over him, Saquon, but then it's like Travis Etn, Devon,

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Speaker 2: hen Pacheco, Rashad White, James Cook, like not only do

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Speaker 2: I think Dereck Henry belongs in that group, it's much

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Speaker 2: easier for me to get excited about it. Like you

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Speaker 2: guys know, I love James Cook, but James Cook is

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Speaker 2: going to give you four rushing touchdowns whereas Derek Henry

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Speaker 2: could get ten more than that. So yeah, I do believe,

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Speaker 2: at least me personally. When I haven't sat down and

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Speaker 2: done my rankings yet, I wait till after free agency

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Speaker 2: to do that. But I'm looking at the list now.

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure I'm gonna have Dereck Henry easily in

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Speaker 2: the top twelve. Like I would you rather have him

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Speaker 2: or Josh Jacobs him or Rashad White Like to me,

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Speaker 2: it's very easy to even with the age concerns, it's

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Speaker 2: very easy to make the case for Derek Henry.

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Speaker 1: He's moved up a spot since since I looked.

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Speaker 3: RB five for me right now, and I'm gonna stamp

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Speaker 3: that is hard by because the touchdowns are going to come.

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Speaker 3: He has a offens it's high scoring as well. They

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Speaker 3: going to be averaging. But yo, how can you stop

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Speaker 3: this guy? Because I'm all in on Derrick Henry. Man

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Speaker 3: He's shown ability to be in the passing game as well.

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Speaker 3: So PPR upside is there, somewhat there, but I'm just

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Speaker 3: all in on this touchdown run.

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Speaker 1: SO five RB five, So I'm guessing what McCaffery, Breeze Sall, Bijeon, jamieir.

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Speaker 3: See, Brees Hall, Bijeon, Kyron, Kyri, Rick Henry. So you're thinking, oh,

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Speaker 3: you're taking Derek Henry over Jamiir Gibbs, huh yes.

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Speaker 2: And Jonathan Taylor And yeah.

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Speaker 3: I got my rankings right here.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: I was messing with it last night, like I was

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Speaker 3: really really moving Gibbs and Henry. Those were the two

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Speaker 3: that I was moving from RB five. But I gotta

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Speaker 3: go Henry if we're going to be talking touchdowns, because

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Speaker 3: you got a Monty there, you got Monty still there.

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Speaker 3: He had a very decent season last year. So I

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Speaker 3: understand we want to see Gibbs unlocked, and he may

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Speaker 1: I think the touchdown uside is there, But you also

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Speaker 1: The Ravens are a little bit more dynamic, and so

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Speaker 2: So it was a year ago, but I looked into

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Speaker 2: and to see how many running backs were still RB

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Speaker 2: Like like I know, Tiki Barber was one of them,

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Speaker 2: age right now, but Derek Henry is an all time great.

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Speaker 2: one that is the outlier.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Tiki Barber, it's a good way to transition

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Speaker 1: to Saquon Barkley. That's a three year deal. Thirty seven

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Speaker 1: point seven five million dollars from the Philadelphia Eagles at

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Speaker 1: Tiki Barber out here taking shots basically saying good riddance

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Speaker 1: to Saquon, which, yeah, honestly credit to Giants fans. They

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Speaker 1: I don't think they wanted him in Philly, but they

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Speaker 1: certainly understood why he went and found himself another deal.

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Speaker 1: Uh So I'm gonna start with you, Lakwan, because you

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Speaker 1: got Derreck Henry at RB five where you put in

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Speaker 1: Saquon in a Philadelphia offense.

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Speaker 3: Man, I got him man RB seven right now, he

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Speaker 3: could move up. I do think you know he could

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Speaker 3: move up. I need to see more of what they're

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Speaker 3: planning to do. The money does tell that they're going

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Speaker 3: to utilize him a lot better than they utilize you know,

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Speaker 3: DeAndre Swift, and you get a bigger, better back honestly

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Speaker 3: out of Saquon Barkley from sw I. I mean, he's

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Speaker 3: a better pass blocker, he's a better you know, runner,

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Speaker 3: he's a better pass catcher, etcetera. Etcetera. I think if

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Speaker 3: you're going to bring in a Saquon Barkley, you're gonna

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Speaker 3: use Saquon Barkley how he should be utilized. You know,

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Speaker 3: in that twenty twenty two season, I really feel as though,

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Speaker 3: you know, Jalen Hurts kind of took a step back

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Speaker 3: in the run game at least when he cames to attempt.

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Speaker 3: So you're keeping Jalen up right, You're keeping him on

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: But this is such a great move for Saquon and

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Speaker 3: the Eagles to where you know he could shoot up, man.

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Speaker 3: I got him RB seven, but he couldn't move up.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, Saquon Barkley better player than DeAndre Swift.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that you're gonna get much argument there.

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Speaker 1: Do we worry less about the tush push, the brotherly

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Speaker 1: shove Florio Now that Jason Kelsey has ridden off into

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Speaker 1: the sunset, I.

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Speaker 2: Think that comes into play. I also like so my

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Speaker 2: initial reaction was, Okay, he's gonna lose a lot of

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Speaker 2: touchdowns to Jalen Hurts. He's going to get the new

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Speaker 2: DeAndre Swift role if being the one that gets to

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Speaker 2: push him in. But the on line is so much better.

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Speaker 2: The offense is so much better in Philly that even

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Speaker 2: if he's not getting the percentage of goal on touches

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Speaker 2: like he got in New York, he could still score

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Speaker 2: a similar amount of touchdowns based on just more opportunities

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Speaker 2: and more chances that the Eagles get. Plus I think

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Speaker 2: a lot of people are forgetting that. Two years ago,

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Speaker 2: Miles Sanders had eleven rushing touchdowns in this Eagles offense,

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Speaker 2: and Miles Sanders was top five in rushing yards that season.

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Speaker 2: DeAndre Swift was top five in rushing yards last season.

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Speaker 2: So Saquon Barkley is going to be top five in

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Speaker 2: I've been riding with Austin Eckler since before it was cool.

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Speaker 1: does depend how much does Kingsbury like Brian Robinson, And

430
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:34,919
Speaker 1: you know, I think some of it to an extent,

431
00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,520
Speaker 1: who the quarterback is going to be. You know, if

432
00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 1: it is that they like Jaden Daniels a lot and

433
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,960
Speaker 1: they draft him at the number two spot, does Daniels

434
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,840
Speaker 1: in his scrambling ability, take away some of those opportunities

435
00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,160
Speaker 1: catching the football for Eckler out of the backfield. Yeah, Yeah,

436
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:51,879
Speaker 1: there are still some questions to be answered, but I

437
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,159
Speaker 1: think there's a good base for him there. Tony Pollard

438
00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,479
Speaker 1: three years, twenty four million dollars with the Tennessee Titans, Lakwan.

439
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,000
Speaker 1: This seems like the most confusing of all the signings

440
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:05,919
Speaker 1: because you had Spears there and now you sign you know,

441
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 1: another Tai Spears similar. Make it make sense, please?

442
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,080
Speaker 3: I can't. Honestly, I think they were just looking for,

443
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 3: you know, a running back they can get in real

444
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 3: quick because they knew they weren't going to be able

445
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,520
Speaker 3: to pay up, you know, for Saquan or Josh Jacobs

446
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 3: or whatever the case may be. But I just really

447
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 3: didn't understand this move like I thought he was going

448
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,360
Speaker 3: to end up somewhere, you know, splitting time as a backup,

449
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 3: you know, maybe or going somewhere like the Patriots and

450
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 3: we're boring. That's what I tweeted the other day.

451
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,200
Speaker 2: But oh he was somewhere boring.

452
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:39,920
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's still accurate. Yeah, But still I am

453
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,680
Speaker 3: still drafting TAIJ. Spears just based on the low flashes

454
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 3: we saw last year. And he was able to split

455
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,679
Speaker 3: his time with Derek henry Man. That's hard to do,

456
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 3: you know, And he was able to utilize his best

457
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,640
Speaker 3: his abilities and be in the passing game as well.

458
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 3: And he has some burst to him, like he has

459
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 3: some breakaway speed to him. And I think once we

460
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,640
Speaker 3: start seeing, you know, Pollard go back into his ways

461
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,160
Speaker 3: a little bit what we saw last year as the

462
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,680
Speaker 3: lead back quotation since the audio broadcast, but I really

463
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 3: feel as though we need to really look at this,

464
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 3: this offense, into that dynamic of it too, man, Like,

465
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 3: what are they really looking to build here? It's gonna

466
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 3: be a new scheme, a new offense, you know, with

467
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 3: Will Levis hopefully at not hopefully but supposedly at the

468
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 3: starting quarterback as of now. But I feel like, you know,

469
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 3: you still go out there and you draft yourself with

470
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 3: Taji Spears. If you're drafting Tony Pollard more so, he

471
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 3: will have to be like a low and RB two.

472
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys agree. I don't really

473
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 3: see too much upside.

474
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 1: So I'm looking here. They are getting drafted back to

475
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 1: back Pollard's RB twenty Spears RB twenty one right now,

476
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 1: which is scarier, which to me says the market hasn't decided.

477
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 1: They haven't settled on one guy or another in Florida.

478
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 1: That seems like the scariest thing when when we are

479
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 1: that split as a community, which means either neither guy

480
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,679
Speaker 1: is going to be great or half of us are

481
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 1: going to swing and miss. Why on one of them? Like,

482
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 1: it just doesn't seem possible that they both finish, uh,

483
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 1: you know, sort of back to back or close enough

484
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 1: to each other because they get enough touches. It just

485
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 1: it just doesn't feel right.

486
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 2: I could see both of them falling now that they've

487
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,360
Speaker 2: they're sharing a backfields. My initial reaction was, I think

488
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 2: Tony Pollard is the one that feels a little bit

489
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 2: safer because they already know what they had in Tase Spears,

490
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 2: and they still went out and paid him. But I

491
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 2: mean that just means he's gonna get first opportunity. I

492
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 2: think if Tony Pollard looks like he did for much

493
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 2: of last season, then he's gonna get jumped. But in

494
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 2: the pecking order. I also, I know he started to

495
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 2: come to life down the stretch last year. I think

496
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 2: that he'll be the one used more in the passing game.

497
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 2: But I mean, remember last year we were making jokes

498
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 2: that he's allergic to the end zone, that he can't

499
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 2: get in that. I like, if those goal on touches

500
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 2: are going to Tase Spears, but it's a heavier share

501
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 2: of the pass game work to Tony Pollard, it could

502
00:23:55,960 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 2: be a situation where it's just a nightmare. All thinkurg

503
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 2: Steelers running backs last year offense, they were eatting off

504
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 2: of each other's plates. They were both RB threes and

505
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 2: like Jalen Warren is really explosive, Naji Harris is a

506
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 2: really effective goal one runner. At times it didn't matter

507
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 2: that offense with them eating off of each other's plate

508
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 2: held them back. I could see the Titans running backs

509
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 2: going that route as of right now at their calls

510
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 2: to twenty and twenty one I'm gonna have neither of them.

511
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I just you know, I think if

512
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 1: I do enough drafts, I will probably end up sort

513
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,360
Speaker 1: of alternating between the two of them a little bit.

514
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 1: But I don't know that I'm gonna have a lot

515
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,679
Speaker 1: of them over the course of my fantasy teams this offseason.

516
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 1: One last running back at least for this section. We'll

517
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: get to more a little bit later on. But Aaron

518
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 1: Jones one year seven million dollars with the Vikings mentioned

519
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: it earlier. I mean, when he was healthy, he played

520
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: very well, and down the stretch and into the playoffs,

521
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones played very very well. But I mean, Floria,

522
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 1: we'll talk about Sam Donold in a little bit. The

523
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: quarterback situation is very much a question mark there. The

524
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 1: offense doesn't seem like it's going to be as productive. That,

525
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: more than anything, is the thing that scares me about

526
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones this year. I don't know about you.

527
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, but I also like it's gonna be

528
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 2: the Sam Donald or like JJ McCarthy leading the way

529
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 2: for them. I could see a lot of dump offs

530
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 2: to the running back, more than we got with Kirk Cousins.

531
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 2: Because Kirk was able to get the ball downfield to

532
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 2: Jefferson and Hawkinson and Addison. So I know there's age

533
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 2: concerns with Aaron Jones. There's volume, like just he's getting

534
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 2: up there, the wear and tear and all of that

535
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 2: that's gonna lead to him being a cheaper back. I think,

536
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 2: like I, he's going to be drafted as an RB two,

537
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 2: and I would anticipate not even a high end one

538
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 2: so at that price, like he is to me is

539
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 2: a type of running back that when if I go

540
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 2: like wide receiver, wide receiver, I could see taking as

541
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 2: maybe like my RB one or two in like the

542
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 2: fourth round or something like that. I still believe Aaron

543
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 2: Jones has the juice and I think he could catch

544
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 2: plenty of passes, but the scoring opportunities are going to

545
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 2: go down, Like you.

546
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 1: Said, yeah, one hundred percent, just not a lot of

547
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: opportunities to score point. Any worries about ty Chandler lukwan.

548
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 3: Uh No, I think he's still be involved. It's just

549
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 3: gonna be one of those situations with this offense where

550
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 3: like we explained for it's not gonna be a lot

551
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 3: of scoring opportunities, so we might not see a lot

552
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 3: of fantasy points from this running back group because they'll

553
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 3: definitely be playing off each other. But I like the

554
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 3: little flashes I saw from ty Chandler, like out those

555
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 3: shot at him at the end of the drafts just

556
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 3: in case, you know, Aaron Jones ends up getting hurt,

557
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 3: because he did face some injury last year before he

558
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 3: decided to go off in the fantasy playoffs, you know,

559
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 3: averaging more than one hundred you know, yards per game.

560
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 3: But I really feel as though, you know, if if

561
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 3: you're going to be taking a shot on Aaron Jones,

562
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 3: just get your expectations in order.

563
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 1: Yeah. I know Kevin O'Connell was talking up ty Chandler

564
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 1: at the combine a few weeks ago, got everybody kind

565
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 1: of excited for about twelve hours on Twitter. But I

566
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 1: think when you dive back into it, Chandler needed, you know,

567
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: he needed injuries to Cam Akers, He needed Alexander Madden

568
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 1: to pretty much fall flat before he got on the field.

569
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: There was not an immediate path to opportunity for ty Chandler,

570
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: and I think that's something to keep in mind when

571
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: you're looking at or thinking about Aaron Jones. After the

572
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: running backs, there were a few quarterback moves of note,

573
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: The biggest one Kirk Cousins leaving Minnesota and heading down

574
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: to the Dirty South. He signs a four year, one

575
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty million dollars deal with the Atlanta Falcons,

576
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars guaranteed, cementing his place in the business

577
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: of football Hall of Fame. Kirk Cousins doesn't win playoff games,

578
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: but he knows how to get the bag for sure. Floria. Look,

579
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins sort of is who he is.

580
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 2: We know who he is.

581
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: What I want to know from you is how excited

582
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 1: are you now about Kyle Pitts. This is your opportunity

583
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: to once again lead the charge, to drive the bus

584
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: on the Kyle Pitts hype train.

585
00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 2: Now I'll drive in the bus. The funniest Sunfelt skit

586
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 2: there is, by the way. Yeah, I look, I ripped

587
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 2: my shirt off on TV a couple of years ago

588
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 2: for Kyle Pitts. I do it again right now if

589
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 2: you want me to, I am. I've never wavered and

590
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 2: I'm not wavering now. Look, not only is it a

591
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 2: huge quarterback upgrade, that's we all know that it's a

592
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 2: play caller upgrade. I believe at least for us what

593
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 2: we want in fantasy purposes. I don't think we're gonna

594
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 2: get just a bunch of slow pace running the ball

595
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 2: like we did the last couple of years. I think

596
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a lot more passing a past friendly offense. Plus,

597
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 2: Kyle Pitts now is fully a year removed from that

598
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 2: knee surgery. He said he wasn't healthy last year. So

599
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of reasons for optimism. But

600
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 2: it's not just with him. I think Drake London has

601
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: wide receiver one upside. In fact, I think he has

602
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 2: top five upside. I don't know if he I'm not

603
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 2: going to guarantee he's top five or anything like that,

604
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 2: but he can get there. Pits could be top five

605
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 2: at his position. Bijon should be top five. He could

606
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 2: be the RB one if things break right. So I'm

607
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 2: kind of you in this, and you guys can tell

608
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 2: me if you disagree. I'm viewing this similar to the

609
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 2: Vikings offense. Like Drake London. Look, I'm not saying he's

610
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 2: justin Jefferson, but he'll play that role. Kyle Pitts will

611
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,719
Speaker 2: be T. J. Hockinson. Bijon, Look, he's better than Madison.

612
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 2: He could be Dalvin Cook, and then Darnel Mooney could

613
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 2: be like the poor man's Jordan Addison, the field stretcher

614
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 2: who helps open stuff up for those other three.

615
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: I don't think that's ridiculous. I mean, look, look on

616
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,959
Speaker 1: this is everything we wanted, right, the two things we

617
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: asked for for the Falcons. One just move on from

618
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: Arthur Smith because the play calling these schemes just didn't

619
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: seem to really work out. And two get a decent quarterback. Right,

620
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: they have accomplished that. You are finally back on the

621
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts bandwagon.

622
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 3: I got me my ticket.

623
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: Baby, does it happen this year? Do we just? Is

624
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: it rap? I mean, if it doesn't happen now, it

625
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: feels like it'll never happen.

626
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 3: Right, Oh, it's over. I'm screaming. Trade him, just get

627
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,959
Speaker 3: rid of him, just send into another location. But I

628
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 3: think this is the year where we finally get to

629
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 3: say Kyle Pitts has arrived. And I mean we saw

630
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins. You know, with his time the six seasons

631
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 3: he was with the Vikings Man, he made tight ends

632
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 3: relevant that had no business being relevant fantasy wise. I

633
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 3: know you guys, remember Kyle Rudolph. I know you guys

634
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 3: remember Irvin Smith's Ervin Irvin. We've been waiting for, you know,

635
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 3: guys like that to pop. But I think Kirk Cousins

636
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,719
Speaker 3: is going over to Atlanta with a somewhat scheme of

637
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 3: Sean McVay. With Zach Robinson over there as the offensive coordinator,

638
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 3: You're going to get a system that he's going to

639
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 3: be very comfortable with. Since twenty eighteen, Kirk Cousins is

640
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 3: third in passing touchdowns, that's behind Mahomes and Russell Wilson

641
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 3: with one hundred and seventy one. So that's one thing

642
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 3: that we're going to get an uptick with the Falcons.

643
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 3: It's going to be the touchdown production. That's how you're

644
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 3: going to get this breakout season with Drake London. That's

645
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 3: how you're going to get Kyle Pitts top three in

646
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 3: his position. This is where it's going to matter. Kyle

647
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 3: Pitts is such a huge target in the red zone

648
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 3: and we talked out talked about it before they got

649
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,479
Speaker 3: the distraction out of building. John new Smith is no

650
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 3: longer there, so Kyle Picks will be able to open up,

651
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 3: be healthy and get some points on the board. Man.

652
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I think we're all, you know, over

653
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: the moon about this. I know Drake London that the

654
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: rocket ship has taken off. It's funny. On on Free

655
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: Agency Frenzy on NFL Network, Cynthia Freeland sort of said, hey,

656
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: fantasy managers, don't get too excited. Simple your expectations. And

657
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: I just pretty much put my fingers in my ears

658
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: and went, la la, I'm not listening.

659
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 3: We're ready to be hurt again.

660
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: I hurt the fourth year in a row. I shouldn't

661
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: say fourth year in a row. He had a good

662
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: rookie year and then it sort of went backwards from there.

663
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 2: One of the best rookie tight end years ever.

664
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean went for a thousand yards that rookie year.

665
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: It's weird. He went for a thousand yards, had a

666
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: great season, and people were disappointed because the hype was

667
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: so great, like it was not a it was not

668
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: a Kyle Pitts issue. It was an US issue. And

669
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: that sort of hurt. But then since then it's kind

670
00:31:55,600 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: of gone backwards. But new coach, better quarterback and he's healthy.

671
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: That was another thing too, that maybe he was more

672
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: injured than a lot of us knew. So all these

673
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: things seem to be pointing in Kyle Kit's direction. Reason

674
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: to get excited about him. Russell Wilson, we talked last

675
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: week about him getting his release from the Denver Broncos,

676
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: and now he is at A two Pittsburgh where he

677
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: will be a Steeler. I mean, simple question, Lakwan, as

678
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: we sit here right now, and and we'll talk about

679
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: Deontay Johnson, We'll talk about the rest of that offense

680
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: in a little bit, but as we sit here right now,

681
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: are you would you be willing to draft Russell Wilson

682
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: outside of say, you know super flex too QB leagues.

683
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 3: I was until you know, the recent trade with Deontay Johnson.

684
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 3: They traded the wrong wide receiver. But I think there's

685
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 3: still hope for Russe Wilson. There's gonna be, you know,

686
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 3: some time for them to build around him. He's cheap,

687
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 3: you know, he's getting paid. He's got his money regardless,

688
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 3: like he's like one two point million for what I believe.

689
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 3: You know, so you get a chance to bring into

690
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 3: my receivers draft.

691
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 2: A wide receiver.

692
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 3: You got time to kind of figure out the kinks

693
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 3: and how this offense is gonna work. So for me

694
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 3: for fantasy today, I'm not drafting Russell Wilson until you know,

695
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 3: probably the summertime where this offense looks a little bit

696
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 3: more shaped up and you got Aalter Smith there. So

697
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 3: there's gonna be some frustration some some weeks.

698
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: Uh, I mean you florio drafting Russ anywhere?

699
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 4: Nope, smithing, No, No, because where he's gonna go, I

700
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 4: want upside, Like he's going to be a QB two, So.

701
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 2: I'm searching for upside there and I don't think. I

702
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 2: think Russ brings probably more of a safe floor. He's

703
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 2: not the runner that he used to be. He's not

704
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 2: gonna throw for like forty five hundred yards or something

705
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 2: like that, like even thirty touchdowns. I think he can

706
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 2: be a good real life piece. I think he can

707
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 2: elevate George Pickens like he did Courtland Sutton last year.

708
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 2: But I think like what he kind of was last

709
00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 2: year is the ceiling, and that's like a high end

710
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 2: QB two, low end QB one some weeks and I'd

711
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 2: rather just chase ups like I'd rather take a shot

712
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 2: on Jayden Daniels or Caleb Williams, someone like that. But

713
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 2: I'm so happy that he did what we wanted him

714
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 2: to do and he signed that contract for the league minimum.

715
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 2: And he wasn't like I'm gonna do Denver favor. No,

716
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 2: he was like, I'm going to take care of me

717
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 2: and the team that I am on. Now, you guys

718
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 2: pay me the rest. And I love it.

719
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: I think in real football since it makes sense for

720
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: the Steelers, right because it's about as low risk as

721
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: you could possibly get. You know, the Broncos are taking

722
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: care of most of the salary. You bring him in.

723
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: If it works out great, you get him for a

724
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: year on a short deal or on a very cheap deal,

725
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: he's for you. If it doesn't work out, you know,

726
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: it's a one year thing. You didn't really pay a

727
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: whole lot. You move on and it's a win win.

728
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 1: Russ is still paid and right, yeah, Russ still gets paid.

729
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: So like for the Steelers and for Russell, will this

730
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: works out well? Baker Mayfield resigning with the Bucks three years,

731
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,439
Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars. We talked about Mike Evans being

732
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: back in just real real quick, Floria. I mean this

733
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: I just seems to be status quo, right, I mean,

734
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: Baker played well last year. We apologized to him on

735
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: this show multiple times. I don't expect much change. I mean,

736
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 1: he's you know, he's a QB two, but not a

737
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: bad option if you're looking to stream or you need

738
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: a buy week replacement.

739
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was plenty of weeks where he was like

740
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 2: he was good for sixteen or more. Almost every single week.

741
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 2: It felt like so good, good streaming option, not someone

742
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 2: you want to draft to be her every week starter.

743
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 2: But once injuries and buys settle in. To me, I

744
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 2: think the best thing about this, and it's kind of

745
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 2: what you hit on Marcus Mike Evans, Like, we know

746
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 2: that Mike Evans could be a wide receiver one with

747
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield. Continuity matters in this league, especially in fantasy

748
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 2: when we're trying not to take gambles with our early

749
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 2: round picks. So it's a good thing for Mike Evans

750
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 2: and Rashad White, Chris Godwin, all the bucks that we

751
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 2: already know can put up numbers with Baker Mayfield. Yeah.

752
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: So there you go. Tho are some of the big

753
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: headline moves. There's plenty more that we're gonna take a break,

754
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: come back dive into some of the I guess secondary

755
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, moves through free agency.

756
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: Stick around for more of the NFL Fantasy Football podcast.

757
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: All Right, free agency is off and running. Let's dive

758
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 1: into some of the other moves that have happened that

759
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: maybe aren't necessarily top headline moves but certainly have some

760
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: fantasy relevance. Quarterbacks. Gardner minshew is going to Vegas two years,

761
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: twenty five million dollars. I had said on Twitter that

762
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 1: it's like Jimmy Garoppolo is sort of that like high end,

763
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: like luxury bougie Vegas experience, like he's staying at the

764
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: Cosmopolitan and getting drinks at high end bars. Gardner minshewe

765
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: is the guy who goes to Vegas and is like,

766
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: you know, yard of margarita around the neck and like

767
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: VIP status of the ex caliber. Like he's that's his

768
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: version of Vegas. Both of them are fun. Both of

769
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: them are incredibly different. First off, Lakwan, your thoughts on

770
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: Gardner to the desert? Is this a good move for

771
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 1: Gardner's a good move for the Raiders.

772
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 3: I think it's a great move for both parties. Man,

773
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 3: I mean, Garner mission didn't look bad last year. Man,

774
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 3: I mean it's kind of unfortunate. I kind of wanted

775
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 3: him to stay in Indie when you know Anthony Richardson

776
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 3: so he can recover properly. But I think this is good,

777
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 3: you know, just in case the Raiders. You know, I

778
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 3: wouldn't say they wouldn't get it right in the draft,

779
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 3: but you have a veteran, you know, presence there in

780
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 3: the quarterback room that can help out and develop this

781
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 3: quarterback or wherever you choose or if you do go quarterback.

782
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 3: I mean twenty five million through two years. Man, that's

783
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 3: that's big money. I mean, that's that's great backup money

784
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 3: for him. I mean, it's a great move by the Raiders.

785
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 4: Uh.

786
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: I mean I looked at it. I'm kind of like, eh,

787
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: I think it's more sort of mediocre quarterback play. Minshew

788
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 1: was nice enough to sort of keep the the cults

789
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: kind of afloat. Yeah, you know, like, but I think

790
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: it's just kind of more mediocre quarterback play, which floya.

791
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: The big question to me now is I'm worried about

792
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 1: DeVante Adams. I know he's a good player, but at

793
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: some point there's only so much he can do when

794
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: the quarterback play around him. Is just kind of meh,

795
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 1: And now I wonder, like, are we drafting him? I

796
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: won't say on name value alone, but you know, do

797
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,720
Speaker 1: we start to worry about DeVante Adams and his potential

798
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 1: to be a wide receiver one?

799
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah? I think like I had concerns last year

800
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 2: because Jimmy g doesn't play the same style that Devonte

801
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 2: Adams likes to play a downfield and all that. But

802
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 2: Gardner Minshew did show that he can elevate Michael Pittman

803
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 2: Junior and keep him as a wide receiver one most

804
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 2: weeks last year, So I do think there's like DeVante Adams.

805
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 2: I don't think he's gonna be a top five wide receiver,

806
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 2: but I could see him being top twelve with Gardner Minshew.

807
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 2: I will say, though I was, I was pretty sad

808
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 2: because I thought the Raiders were going to be the

809
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: team that makes the move for justin fields given their

810
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 2: defense and how he can run, and I thought that

811
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 2: would have been a lot of fun to see in

812
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 2: silver and black. So Gardner Minshew, I agree, like he's

813
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 2: he's I think his ceiling is kind of what he

814
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 2: was last year, and that's keeping your team around nine

815
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 2: and seven in the hunt, but maybe he sneaks in

816
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 2: and gets you a seventh seed if everything breaks right.

817
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 2: That's the absolute ceiling for Gardner Minshew though.

818
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: I mean, look, he's got to deal with you know,

819
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 1: the Raiders have to deal with the Chiefs twice a year.

820
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: So they're in the same division with the two time

821
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: defending champions. They're in the same division with the Chargers,

822
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: who look, I get it, hashtag Chargering. But there's there's

823
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh there, now there's Greg Roman. There's hopefully a

824
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: new attitude and maybe that means some different production. So

825
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 1: you know, the deck no pun intended for Vegas seems

826
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 1: sort of stacked against the Raiders, and I think Gardner

827
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: Minshew is kind of Man. It's funny. Floria and I

828
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: talk about my friend's text chain that I'm in with

829
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: with some of my friends from the Bay Area, and

830
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: we are all forty nine Ers fans. We also all

831
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: have sort of a soft spot in our heart for

832
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: the Raiders after all those years in Oakland. And one

833
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: of my friends texted, the forty nine Ers are his

834
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: responsible son who grew up and got a degree and

835
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: has a really good, high paying job and mortgage and

836
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. The Raiders are more of

837
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: these screw up son who basically just wants to sit

838
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: on the couch smoke weed all day and like works

839
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: at the mall.

840
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 2: It also kind of fits their fan bases.

841
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: Uh, sort of sort of a little bit.

842
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 3: Uh.

843
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, So the Raiders fan base is wild. It is wild.

844
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: I all say this, for better or worse, the Niner

845
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: fan base has has got a little bit unruly, exactly

846
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: at that. Speaking of the forty nine ers, their backup

847
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: quarterbacks who rock purty with sam Donold last year. Now

848
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,439
Speaker 1: it looks like Donald is going to get his own

849
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: starting gig. He heads to Minnesota as the presumptive replacement

850
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: for Kirk Cousins. You you mentioned I think you mentioned it, Florio.

851
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:53,240
Speaker 2: Uh.

852
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: Do you think he's going to be the starter in

853
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: Week one or do the Vikings do something in the

854
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: draft to maybe give him some competition?

855
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 2: I think both. I think, Look, they're not gonna get

856
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 2: the top three quarterbacks. They're not gonna get Caleb in

857
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 2: my opinion, they're not gonna get Jaden Daniels, and I

858
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 2: think Drake may will still go too early for them.

859
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 2: They could be in the running though for JJ McCarthy

860
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 2: and if he falls maybe I don't know, do they

861
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 2: go Bo Nicks Michael Pennix. But I could see the

862
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 2: Vikings moving up and being aggressive to get a quarterback

863
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 2: in round one of the draft. But that doesn't necessarily

864
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 2: mean that Sam Donald won't start Week one. I would

865
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 2: be shocked if Sam Donald is their starter all season long,

866
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 2: but I wouldn't be shocked at all if he starts

867
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 2: the first couple of games before handing it over to

868
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 2: a rookie. That being said, either way, it is a

869
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:48,720
Speaker 2: negative for these big pieces in fantasy, for Justin Jefferson, TJ.

870
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 2: Hockinson when he returns Jordan Addison, Like, I don't care

871
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: which situation it is. If it's a rookie or if

872
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 2: it's Sam Donald. It is a downgrade from Kirk Cousins. Yeah,

873
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 2: I mean I think that's the thing, right.

874
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: But that being said, LQ, Justin Jefferson's still top five

875
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: receiver off the board.

876
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 3: I don't know what Sam Donald, man. I really don't

877
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 3: like it. I really don't like it, man. I mean,

878
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 3: Sam Donald has kind of been me, you know, for

879
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 3: the most part, we haven't really seen him elevate wide

880
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 3: receivers of his calenber to the top of the boards.

881
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 3: But I feel like they're gonna bring in competition. Man,

882
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 3: They're gonna draft somebody. This is definitely, you know, something

883
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 3: that we've seen with Sam Donald in the past before

884
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 3: when they Carolina they brought in Baker Mayfield. The year

885
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 3: before that, they bring in Cam Newton. They're always gonna

886
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 3: need a guy and you gotta worry about, you know,

887
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 3: a little bit of injury.

888
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: Rius.

889
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 3: He has somewhat of a rap sheet there too as well.

890
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 3: So I don't I'll just like Florida, I'll be super

891
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 3: super surprised he plays more than ten games as the

892
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 3: starter they got. I just don't. I just don't know, man.

893
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know the people are sort of making the

894
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: case that Donald maybe there's there's a reason to roll

895
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: the dice, that people are going back and watching some

896
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: of his old tape and saying that maybe there's a

897
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: reason to kind of buy in. I mean, look, I

898
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,439
Speaker 1: think he's a guy that can be decent. I don't

899
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 1: think that's enough for the Vikings to win the NFC North,

900
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: especially with the Lions hanging around there. But I just

901
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: worry that the yardage of totals come down the touchdown

902
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: totals come down for Justin Jefferson. But talent sort of

903
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: may went out there a little bit, but he's definitely

904
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: not the you know, slam dunk top three Fantasy wide

905
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: receiver pick. He once was a couple of running backs,

906
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: A handful of running backs to talk about here. Zach

907
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: Mosk goes to the Bengals two years, eight million dollars. Uh, Laquon,

908
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 1: tell me why he's going to be every fantasy analysts

909
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 1: favorite sleeper running back this year.

910
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 3: Man, He's definitely going to be on my sleeper lest

911
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 3: for sure. Man. I mean, he's one of those running

912
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 3: backs that you know, we wanted him to kind of

913
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 3: be something in Buffalo, but he was not. But now

914
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 3: he had this spark and Indie and now he's looking

915
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 3: at a role where it could be his. You know,

916
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 3: you got Chase Brown there as well, who actually showed

917
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 3: flashes as well last season. But I think this is

918
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 3: Zach Moss's backfield and I think I will be buying

919
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 3: into it.

920
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon going from Cincinnati to Houston, Florida, this was

921
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: a spot that people thought Saquon could land in and

922
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: really be productive. And for a guy who looked like

923
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: he was gonna be a cut candidate. I mean, Zach

924
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 1: Moss goes to Cincinnati, Everybody's like, well, the Bengals gonna

925
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: cut Joe Mixon. Instead, they figure out how to trade

926
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: him for a seventh round pick to Houston. This seems

927
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 1: to be the best possible landing spot he could have

928
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: asked for.

929
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 2: I think, all things considered, I think so, and I

930
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,439
Speaker 2: think it keeps him in the range as an RB two.

931
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 2: I know he didn't look as a runner like the

932
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 2: Joe Mixon of old last season, but his offense, I

933
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 2: mean Te Higgins was in and out, Joe Burrow was

934
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 2: out for a lot, a long stretcher or was hurt

935
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 2: even before that. I think that this is going to

936
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 2: be a good thing for Joe Mixon. He's on a

937
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 2: good offense that will be able to move the ball,

938
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 2: give him plenty of scoring opportunities. C. J. Stroud is

939
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 2: was arguably the best deep ball thrower last season, which

940
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 2: should help create running lanes near the line of scrimmage.

941
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 2: The only worry I have is J. Stroud because he's

942
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 2: so effective downfield. He doesn't like to dump the ball

943
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 2: off very much, so maybe he sees some of his

944
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 2: targets go down going from Burrow to Stroud, But I

945
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 2: think Mixing could be a top twenty running back again.

946
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 2: He I mean, Devin Singletary was putting up RB one

947
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 2: numbers for a stretch last season, and I think Mixing

948
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 2: is better than Motor even at this point in his career.

949
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think, just like we were saying for

950
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 2: Aaron Jones earlier, like you're not gonna have to pay

951
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 2: the usual Joe Mixon price, but at a little bit

952
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 2: of a discount now, maybe say in the fourth round

953
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 2: or something like that, if you wait on RB two

954
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: where you just start wide receiver, wide receiver, wide receiver.

955
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 2: He's a good, solid option on a really good offense.

956
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's the thing. He stays in

957
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: a good offense. I'm curious to see how he sort

958
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: of works in with Bobby Sloweck's zone running offense. It

959
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: took a while last year for the Texans to get

960
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: that run game going, and you mentioned Devin Singletary sort

961
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: of picked up up Damian Pierce became persona on Grada

962
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: by the end of the year. So maybe Joe Mixon

963
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,919
Speaker 1: can kind of hit the ground running when think gets

964
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: to Week one, DeAndre Swift. Heeley's Philadelphia, he goes to Chicago.

965
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 1: Three years, twenty four million for DeAndre Swift. I'm trying

966
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: to get excited about this one, Laqui. I know a

967
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: lot of people think this is gonna be a decent move.

968
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 1: I just worry that it becomes messy with Roshawn Johnson

969
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: still there, with Khalil Herbert there for at least one

970
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,280
Speaker 1: more year. My my biggest fear is that this becomes

971
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: a three headed backfield, which becomes pretty much useless for everybody.

972
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: Can you talk me down off that ledge?

973
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 3: I cannot. I'm gonna probably be drafting with you because

974
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 3: I'm just as worried man because this Bears offense.

975
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: Man.

976
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 3: You know, they signed Deontay Foreman along with drafting. You know,

977
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 3: Roshaan Johnson and Clil Herbert still there, so they still

978
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 3: don't really have an idea of what's going on with

979
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 3: that backfield. And I'm kind of like hands off at

980
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 3: this point with a Bears running back. I mean, Dave Montgomery,

981
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 3: let's be honest, was there life a good running back

982
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 3: for fantasy? I mean, he's the only running back that's

983
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 3: average more than fifteen fantasy points in the season. So

984
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, they're going to be eating

985
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 3: off each other's plates because they all kind of do

986
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 3: a little bit of what each other does. I mean,

987
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 3: you know, Khalil Herbert used to peer running there. I know,

988
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 3: we remember his yards per carry, you know, previous seasons.

989
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 3: I know Roshawn Johnson he ran a bunch of routes

990
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 3: last year, and Swift is a guy that runs a

991
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 3: bunch of routes in the passing game as well. So

992
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 3: they're just going to be eating off each other. And

993
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 3: it's hands off for me. And then this was probably

994
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 3: the worst landing spot for him, to be honest.

995
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I know, I want to get excited

996
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: about it, but it's just, you know, I think there's

997
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: just too many pieces there. Presumably Caleb Williams is going

998
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: to be the quarterback there. You know, Caleb was not

999
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: a guy who, at least out of structure, was going

1000
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: to check down to the running back. He would either

1001
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: take off and run or he would find a sort

1002
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: of a broken play to throw the ball downfield. So

1003
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: I think targets might be a little harder to come

1004
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: by as well for the running backs in the Chicago

1005
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 1: offense Florida. You mentioned Devin Singletarian, what he did in Houston.

1006
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: He goes to New York in you will occupy the

1007
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: space vacated by Saquon Barkley. But considering the state of

1008
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 1: the Giants offense, AKA, it is a mess. Any interest

1009
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 1: in motor Singletary.

1010
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 2: I think he's in RB three that will have some

1011
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 2: weeks where he could finish just like a top twenty

1012
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 2: running back, maybe even a little bit higher, but it's

1013
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 2: going to need like touchdowns and catches to get him there.

1014
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 2: I know the Giants have added to their offensive line

1015
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 2: and he's reunited with Brian Dabele, but yeah, it's what

1016
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 2: you said. Their offense lacks really any sort of firepower

1017
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 2: right now. They're not going to have a ton of

1018
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 2: scoring opportunities or yards or anything like that. So just

1019
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 2: kind of a volatile RB three, more of a depth

1020
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 2: piece one that again some weeks when there's buys and

1021
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,720
Speaker 2: injuries and stuff like that. I think he will be useful,

1022
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 2: but I don't think you want to go into the

1023
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 2: season with Devin Singletary as one of your starting running

1024
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 2: backs or flex option.

1025
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 1: Antonio Gibson going to the Patriots three years eleven two

1026
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: five million dollars. I once upon a time Lakwan was

1027
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: and Antonio Gibson stan I have sort of given up

1028
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 1: that role there, and now he goes to an offense

1029
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: that in the last few years has been very boring. Uh,

1030
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: changes are coming. You know, they are likely going to

1031
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: draft a quarterback with the number three pick overall. But

1032
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 1: there's still just not enough here for me to get

1033
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: excited about Antonio Gibson as anything more than like an

1034
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: RB four.

1035
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's more so a stash like he could easily

1036
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 3: become like a bench zombie where he's just sitting there

1037
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 3: on your bench for X amount of weeks. But there

1038
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 3: is the other side of the coin where we can

1039
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 3: kind of see him maybe utilize more in a passing

1040
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 3: game what we kind of been wanting him to do

1041
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 3: for X amount of years, you know, and Stevenson is there,

1042
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 3: but he's a bigger back. I'm really impressed, you know

1043
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 3: how big he is. He's able to be elusive like

1044
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 3: that and catch the ball out of backfield. But I

1045
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:58,240
Speaker 3: think if you're going to make the move of signing

1046
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 3: Antonio Gibson, you obviously have some type of planform because

1047
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 3: you really didn't need him, you know, behind Stevenson. But

1048
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, he's nothing more than a

1049
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 3: stash at this point.

1050
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he's just he never popped in Washington

1051
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: all those years of like, hey, you know, us reminding

1052
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: the people that, hey, he was a wide receiver in college,

1053
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 1: why don't you throwing the ball? And they never really

1054
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: got the targets to him all those years there. You know,

1055
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 1: maybe it changes in New England, but maybe it doesn't.

1056
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 2: Floridal.

1057
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: Gus Edwards of the Chargers is interesting to me. Two years,

1058
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: six and a half million dollars. It's not a huge

1059
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 1: investment for LA in that regard, but with Jim Harbaugh

1060
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 1: as the head coach and Greg Roman as the offensive coordinator,

1061
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: it seems as though they are going to be I

1062
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: want to say they're going to establish the run, but

1063
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: they do want to have a power running game because

1064
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: that's what those coaches do. Gus Edwards seems to be

1065
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 1: a guy who sort of fits into that role. I

1066
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: don't think he's going to be the primary back, but

1067
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 1: I do think he kind of has some sneaky upside

1068
00:50:58,880 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: in this offense in LA.

1069
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 2: I think he has a lot of sneaky upside in

1070
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 2: this team. I do agree with you. I think they're

1071
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 2: going to bring in another back, but I could see

1072
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 2: Gus being the early downback and especially near the goal line,

1073
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 2: they're going to use him. Go back and listen when

1074
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 2: we did a coaching preview, like Jim Harborough in San

1075
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 2: Francisco in the NFL and Michigan and College always one

1076
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 2: of the run heaviest attacks, and then Greg Roman and

1077
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 2: out of ten years as a OC, his offenses have

1078
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 2: finished top ten in rushing attempts and yards and routinely

1079
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 2: are in the top four. So I think a lot

1080
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 2: of volume will be there and he'll get those valuable

1081
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 2: goal line touches. I do think though, they're going to

1082
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,760
Speaker 2: bring in another piece to be like a pass catcher

1083
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 2: or something like that, because that's not Gus's range, but

1084
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 2: he can be their short yardage guy, that hammer, and

1085
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 2: then they're gonna have to get like a lightning type

1086
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 2: of guy.

1087
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I think that's fair, and I think

1088
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 1: where you're going to be drafting Gus, I mean end

1089
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 1: of drafts probably. I think that the juice is probably

1090
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: gonna be worth the squeeze for fantasy this year. Receivers

1091
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: a couple of trades of note that we sort of

1092
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: touched on it a little bit earlier. But Deontay Johnson

1093
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: going to the Panthers. I don't know, maybe I'm weird.

1094
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 1: I kind of like this, LQ NO.

1095
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 2: I like it.

1096
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: I like it because look at what Adam Feelin did

1097
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 1: last year, right, I mean, Adam Feeling was a revelation

1098
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 1: for a good chunk of the season last year in Carolina.

1099
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 1: And this is like old you know, every year your

1100
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 1: aggression is coming, like he's gonna fall off a cliff.

1101
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 1: And he had over one thousand yards last year. He

1102
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 1: had one hundred catches last year. Deontay Johnson is every

1103
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: bit the route runner, maybe more than Adam Thielen is

1104
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 1: h He's younger obviously than Feeling. I think he's gonna

1105
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: have a sneaky good year. When I say sneaky good year,

1106
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: I think he's just like a low end wide receiver two,

1107
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: maybe wide receiver three. But I don't think this is

1108
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: a terrible move, and it goes a long way toward

1109
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,720
Speaker 1: helping out Bryce Young, getting him at least a little

1110
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: bit of something in that offense. I'm sitting here telling

1111
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 1: you I'm gonna just go, you know, pound the table

1112
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 1: for Bryce Young as a quarterback and fantasy. But I

1113
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: do think this is not a terrible move. But you're

1114
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: I love that you groaned when I said that, so

1115
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: I want to hear your thoughts about it.

1116
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just being selfish.

1117
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 4: Man.

1118
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 3: I wanted him to stay in Pittsburgh with Rush, But

1119
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 3: you're right if we're looking at ad him Thinel last year,

1120
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 3: he was force fed, he saw a ton of targets.

1121
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 3: But man, I just wish he went somewhere else where.

1122
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 3: The situation is a tad bit better from the coaching staff,

1123
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 3: from the quarterback situation. But I'm not hating on Bryce

1124
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,919
Speaker 3: Young whatsoever. He had no protection last year. That old

1125
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 3: line was letting him get blasted every single play. So

1126
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 3: what production were you actually expecting out of him? But man,

1127
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 3: I just need need to see a little bit more

1128
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 3: pieces on that old line that we're gonna be able

1129
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 3: to protect Bryce Young. He's going to be able to

1130
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 3: get the ball out on time and connect with his

1131
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 3: wide receivers. Deontay Johnson comes in as a guy and

1132
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 3: can play underneath if he can even go downfield as well.

1133
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 3: He's all around specialist at route running. So this is

1134
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 3: great for the parties of real life football, but for

1135
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 3: fantasy man, like you said, he's probably like the wide

1136
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 3: receiver three man like where he had a chance to

1137
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 3: have that you know, wide receiver two stamp on him

1138
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 3: if he stayed in Pittsburgh.

1139
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, i'man curious see what the Panthers do offensive line wise,

1140
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: but at least they have somebody who can get open,

1141
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: because that was a big thing. They didn't have anybody

1142
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: who could get open. I mean all twenties eer clips

1143
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: you would see the Panthers offense, it was like, you know,

1144
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: three or four dudes running routes and all justlankets, blanketed,

1145
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: just getting dog walked by defenders there. So hopefully this

1146
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: helps with that. Jerry Judy also traded. Bronco's finally moving

1147
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: on from Judy. They send him to Cleveland, And for me, Floria,

1148
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: it's just about can he beat out Elijah Moore to

1149
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: be the wide receiver too? I think he can, but

1150
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,919
Speaker 1: I don't know that that is a lock. And even

1151
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 1: then with David and Joku's stepping up last year, are

1152
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: there enough targets to go around from the Browns?

1153
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 2: I still think that Amari Cooper is going to dominate volume.

1154
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 2: I think David and Joku will be number two. Judy

1155
00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 2: and Elijah Moore. I want no part of either of

1156
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 2: the for fantasy, Like last year we were saying Elijah

1157
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 2: Moore had some upside, and then the dude routinely scored

1158
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 2: less than ten points every week, it felt like. But

1159
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 2: for real life purposes, I think Judy will be the

1160
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 2: outside number two wide receiver and Elijah Moore will be

1161
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 2: the lead slot guy. I think those will be the

1162
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 2: roles they kind of operate in. And people were getting

1163
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 2: annoyed at me online on Twitter for kind of saying

1164
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 2: that Deshaun Watson was terrible last year, but Deshaun Watson

1165
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 2: was not good last year by any metric. Like, I

1166
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 2: think that this is a quarterback downgrade for Jerry Judy,

1167
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 2: going from Russell Wilson to Deshaun Watson. So and there's

1168
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 2: more target competition. I don't see how Jerry Judy, like,

1169
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 2: maybe he could put up better numbers than what he

1170
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 2: did last year because last year was rough, but I

1171
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 2: don't think he's going to be a weekly Fantasy contributor.

1172
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: That right there is your headline that the Florio thinks

1173
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 1: this is a quarterback downgrade going from Russ to Deshaun Watson.

1174
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:59,240
Speaker 1: I mean you look just purely looking at the numbers,

1175
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: not talking out on tape. What do you put on tape?

1176
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: But you know, Deshaun has averaged about one hundred and

1177
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: eighty five yards or so per game in the two seasons.

1178
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 1: He's played a total of twelve games with the with

1179
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 1: the Browns.

1180
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 2: My caveat is I will admit Watson has more upside,

1181
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 2: like if he could somehow turn back the clock then

1182
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 2: he could be awesome. But I just we have it's

1183
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 2: a year and a half now and we haven't seen it.

1184
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I feel you. I understand where you're going

1185
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 1: with that. I don't know. I feel like it's sort

1186
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: of a lateral move going from one to the other.

1187
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 2: There.

1188
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:34,760
Speaker 1: I want to stay with you, Floyda because Gabe Davis

1189
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: goes to the Jaguars three years, thirty nine million. I

1190
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: mean you obviously watched Gabe Davis very closely all those

1191
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 1: years in Buffalo. I looked at this move and it

1192
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: just felt like the Jaguars are like, hey man, we

1193
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: caught lightning in a bottle with Christian Kirk right, we

1194
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: gave him a lot of money and everybody laughed at

1195
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk was awesome. Let's see if we can do

1196
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 1: it again with Gabe Davis. Can they do it again

1197
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,240
Speaker 1: with date Gabe Davis? Nope?

1198
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 2: I don't believe so. I think Gabe Davis is in

1199
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 2: a similar situation now where he is the third target

1200
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 2: at best, because Christian Kirk is going to be ahead

1201
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 2: of him and Evan Ingram is going to be ahead

1202
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 2: of him. Maybe they still bring in Calvin Ridley. We

1203
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 2: don't know, but and it's a quarterback downgrade going from

1204
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 2: Josh Allen to Trevor Lawrence. The biggest winner of this

1205
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 2: is probably Travis Etn because say what you will about

1206
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 2: Gabe Davis, he helps. He's a tremendous run blocker, and

1207
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 2: he's a great field stretcher which helps open up things

1208
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 2: near the line of scrimmage. That being said, most of

1209
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 2: the interceptions that Josh Allen has thrown the last couple

1210
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 2: of years are him trying to force it deep to

1211
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 2: Gabe Davis. Davis isn't a high point type of wide receiver.

1212
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 2: He doesn't create a lot of separation. He has speed,

1213
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 2: straight line speed, but you need to kind of hit

1214
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 2: him in stride, and then he also has questionable hands

1215
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 2: at times. So yeah, I.

1216
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: Would you like to play missus Lincoln.

1217
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say I rooted for him when

1218
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 2: he was a Bill, but the whole time I felt

1219
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 2: like he was miscasted as a wide receiver to think

1220
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 2: he needs to be a three, and right now he's

1221
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 2: a two in Jacksonville. I'm not going to draft him

1222
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 2: in front. Maybe in bastball, but that's it.

1223
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 1: I do love the whole because that was a big thing.

1224
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: Like a lot of people on Twitter are like, he's

1225
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: a great run blocker, which I'm not discounting the value

1226
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: of it for actual football. For fantasy I get zero

1227
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: points for that, but maybe look maybe Gibson on the field.

1228
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 1: I will say this part of Brandon Ayuk's turnaround in

1229
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: San Francisco and getting out of Kyle Shanahan's doghouse was

1230
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: his commitment to blocking on run plays he didn't really

1231
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: seem to want to do when he first got to

1232
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: San Francisco. He ended up in the doghouse. Then he

1233
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 1: sort of, you know, made a commitment to do it,

1234
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: got better at it, and at that point then Kyle

1235
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: Shanahan felt comfortable putting him on the field, and he's

1236
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: blossomed into the Brandon Ayuk that we have seen. Darnell

1237
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 1: Mooney goes to the Falcons three years, thirty nine million dollars.

1238
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 1: It is wild to me that Darnell Mooney is getting

1239
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: more money than Saquon Barkley nuts.

1240
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 3: That's cool, old nasty work.

1241
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, getting more work or getting more more

1242
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 1: money than uh than Saquon. He's getting more per year

1243
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 1: than Dereck Henry, right, this is insane, but more from

1244
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: a fantasy perspective, Lakwan does this work. We just sat

1245
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: here talking about how great Drake London and Kyle Pitts

1246
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 1: can be and be Jean Robinson can be. Is there

1247
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:30,439
Speaker 1: enough for Darnelle Mooney to actually be fantasy relevant here?

1248
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean back to back seasons with

1249
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 3: less than five hundred receiving yards. I don't know who

1250
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 3: his agent is, but shout out to him and me

1251
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 3: and you need to connect because I need a bag

1252
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 3: as well. But man, I think he's more so a distraction.

1253
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 3: He's gonna open things up, you know, for Kyle Pitts

1254
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 3: and Drake London I mean, you honestly pay him this money.

1255
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:50,919
Speaker 3: Isn't that the same amount of money that gave Davis

1256
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 3: Gott Like, these guys are gonna be guys, are gonna

1257
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 3: stretch a field, and they're just gonna be decoys out there.

1258
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 3: And most of the time, I'm not expecting much fantasy

1259
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 3: from Darnell Mooney. I mean, maybe Kerk gets him a

1260
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 3: little bit activated, but it's kind of like a kJ

1261
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 3: Osborne situation if we want to reference, you know, the

1262
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 3: Vikings where he pops up some weeks and some weeks

1263
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,919
Speaker 3: where he's namely on the field. You know, I really

1264
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 3: feel as though, you know, Darnel Mooney, I'm.

1265
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 1: Good tight ends. There hasn't been a lot of really

1266
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 1: big time movement tight end wise. Gerald Ever goes to

1267
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: the Bears two years, twelve million. Mike Gesicki to the

1268
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 1: Bengals one year, three point two five million. IRV Smith

1269
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 1: goes to the Chiefs. So I think we can.

1270
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 3: Retire hashtag let IRV swerve.

1271
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 1: He can be swerving in Kansas City well as long

1272
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 1: as trap as Kelsey is still walking. Will Distey go

1273
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: to the Chargers three years, fourteen million, Lakwan, I need

1274
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: you to answer for your rams three years twenty two

1275
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 1: and a half million for Kobe Parkinson. Please explain this.

1276
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 2: One to me.

1277
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 3: Now, Listen, we all know Tyler Higby's recovering from an injury,

1278
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 3: and we have Davis Allen on board as well, who

1279
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 3: kind of took the place of Higbee last season. But

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Speaker 3: Parkinson is a great pass blocker. I mean, for the

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Speaker 3: most part his last two years as a pass blocker,

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Speaker 3: he's held a lot in the run game. He's also

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01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 3: a you know, athletic tight end to be six seven,

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Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty pounds basically, So I think Sean

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Speaker 3: McVay is looking to be ground and pound this season.

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01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 3: So you bring in a guy like him to be

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01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 3: able to contribute in the past in the run game.

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Speaker 3: So the contract three years, eh, yeah, okay, I would

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Speaker 3: have settled for one, maybe two. But you know, he

1290
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 3: comes in, you know, hopefully he can contribute, you know,

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Speaker 3: one take, he gets back on his feet.

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Speaker 1: I mean again, I'm talking about how much Darnell Mooney

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Speaker 1: got Kobe Parkinson getting more per year than Austin Eckler.

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01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 1: That's crazy, getting more, getting more over those three years.

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Speaker 1: Peror and Jones, Uh, you know, not much just about

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Speaker 1: half a million less per year than Derreck Henry. Uh,

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Speaker 1: the world is upside down. I don't think it is.

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01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 1: Say you know those sidings do anything for you? Florio

1299
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 1: like I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Mike a Seki, I think is the bone that I

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01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 2: like most here because the Bengals might be trading t Higgins,

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01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 2: which would open up a bunch of volume. They've yet

1303
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 2: to bring back Tyler Boyd. So Mike Caseki, look, he

1304
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 2: is not a tight end right, Like we joked about

1305
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 2: it a couple of years ago Marcus when he went

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01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 2: to the Dolphins and he was or when Mike McDaniel

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01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 2: got there and Mike a Seki was like, I'm learning

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01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 2: how to play tight end.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a big red flag a lot receiver.

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01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 1: That was a big real flag.

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Speaker 2: If he could be the new Tyler Boyd for the Bengals,

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01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 2: I think he has tight ended one upside. And back

1313
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 2: to these we all say running backs don't matter, right,

1314
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 2: but somehow all of these running backs got signed before.

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01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 2: Blake Snell, I don't get it.

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01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 1: I love I did love Daniel Jeremiah tweeting Matt like

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01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 1: early on, like you know all these running backs that

1318
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 1: he signed before Blake Snell. Who knows when Blake Snell's

1319
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 1: gonna sign. Keep an eye out for that one too.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about it on the show. I guess for whatever, Yeah,

1321
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 1: I don't. I think that the tight end market doesn't

1322
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 1: really excite me all that much. Gerald Everett will do enough,

1323
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 1: I think to tantalize us, Like he will catch, like,

1324
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 1: you know, a touch down every other week and do

1325
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 1: enough for me to like put him in a sleeper's column,

1326
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 1: and then he'll vanish again in Chicago, also wondering what,

1327
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 1: you know, what are the what the Chargers are going

1328
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 1: to do for their their three on three basketball team

1329
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 1: now that Gerald Everett, the self proclaimed the best hooper

1330
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 1: on the squad, is no longer there. But that's another

1331
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 1: conversation for a different show. Still got a little bit

1332
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 1: more left, kind of looking ahead to what is still

1333
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 1: out there in free agency, plus what's gonna happen with

1334
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 1: Justin Fields. We'll dive into that and wrap things up

1335
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Speaker 1: here on a very very supersized addition, that's the word

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Speaker 1: I'm looking for, extra, very extra edition of the NFL

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01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 1: Fantasy Football Podcast. All Right, so that is sort of

1338
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 1: what has happened. Let's look at what will be at

1339
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 1: least what we think or hope will be for the

1340
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 1: rest of the free agency period. First couple other moves

1341
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 1: of note, A lot of backup quarterbacks on the move.

1342
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 1: Jacobe Brissette going to the Patriots, Jamis Winston maybe throwing

1343
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 1: Yoloveland if Deshaun Watson can fulfill his duties. Tyrod Taylor

1344
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 1: goes to the Jets, and who knows, maybe if the

1345
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 1: guy ahead of him ends up becoming a vice presidential nominee,

1346
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 1: a's Tyron to be the starter. Who knows. Mac Jones

1347
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 1: gets to go back home to Florida, traded from New

1348
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 1: England to Jacksonville, where he will back up Trevor Lawrence.

1349
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 1: Drew Locke will head to the Big Apple and at

1350
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 1: least right now looks like the backup to Daniel Jones

1351
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 1: for the Giant, And Marcus Mariota will go to Washington,

1352
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 1: where he will reunite with Wait did he play with

1353
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury. I don't think he did, actually, but the

1354
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury likes, likes guys like him. He can move

1355
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:38,959
Speaker 1: a little bit, So he goes to Washington. Obviously, looks

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01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 1: like they're probably going to draft a quarterback as well

1357
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 1: in the top three. Speaking of quarterbacks, though, Justin Fields

1358
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 1: is still out there. We were thinking maybe the Bears

1359
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 1: would figure out a deal for him to send him along,

1360
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 1: but it looks like all the potential landing spots for

1361
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 1: him as a starter at least have been locked up.

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01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 1: So I mean, Oreo, what is the future for Justin

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01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 1: Fields right now?

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Speaker 2: Man? I don't know, and that is frustrating because I

1365
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 2: do think he should be a starter at the NFL level.

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01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 2: I think last year when he finally got a competent

1367
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 2: wide receiver one, we saw that he could be a

1368
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 2: very effective passer. We know what he could do with

1369
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 2: his legs. I think, yes, there's room to grow, He's

1370
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 2: got to develop in all of that. But I think

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01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 2: he deserves a chance to start somewhere with good weapons.

1372
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 2: But everywhere is drying up. Like I thought, the Raiders

1373
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 2: was the spot for him, but he might have to

1374
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 2: accept being a backup and if so, hopefully he goes

1375
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 2: somewhere where there's a questionable starter and he could come

1376
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 2: in and play well or something like that. But right now,

1377
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 2: landing spots to be a starter are few and far between.

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01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think that's sort of the problem.

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01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, Lakwan. I mean a backup

1380
01:05:55,840 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 1: role obviously for fantasy means he's not really viable to

1381
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 1: this point. And like at this point, if he ends

1382
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:05,439
Speaker 1: up as a backup, that kill his Dynasty value even

1383
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 1: kind of.

1384
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 3: Does, because he could end up somewhere where, you know,

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01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 3: let's say, no a scenario that Dane and Jeremiah said

1386
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 3: this morning will if he goes to Indy. You know,

1387
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 3: he kind of backs up Anthony Richison, so he could

1388
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 3: recover back. You know, you still get that athletic profile

1389
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 3: and the quarterback with Justin Fields in that system, and like,

1390
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 3: I don't know where else he would fit honestly, So

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01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 3: Dynasty you're probably like scratching your head, like what do

1392
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 3: I do with Justin Fields?

1393
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just you know, this is not what we

1394
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 1: were anticipating. We thought there would be a market for him.

1395
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 1: I think he'd be huge, but I thought there would

1396
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 1: be one so far that so far that has not

1397
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 1: been the case. We got some big name wide receivers

1398
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 1: still out there, and want to get your thoughts quickly

1399
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 1: just on some preferred landing spots for some of these guys.

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01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 1: L Q Marquise Brown. Where should Hollywood go?

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01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 3: Oh, Chiefs Man, I think that would be a nice

1402
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 3: little plug and play situation there, stretch the field, veteran presence.

1403
01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 3: You got to get him there, one.

1404
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 1: Hundred percent on Chiefs. Where else Florida you could see

1405
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 1: him landing.

1406
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 2: Looking through the teams right now, I'm like, no, I

1407
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 2: think the Chiefs would be his best case scenario.

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01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think so too. Other named Mike Williams

1409
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 1: who was released by the Chargers today, so he is

1410
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 1: out there on the free agent market. A lot of names.

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01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 1: Heem interested in Mike Williams, no surprise, Lakwan. What is

1412
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 1: the best possible landing spot you see for him?

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01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 3: I was gonna say Buffalo Man and maybe the Raiders,

1414
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 3: Like I would love that for Mike Williams there and

1415
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 3: that would be great for fantasy.

1416
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 1: The Raiders would be interesting with him, Jakoby Myers and

1417
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 1: DeVante Adams. A lot of opportunity or a lot of

1418
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 1: pass catchers and I'm not sure if there's enough targets

1419
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 1: to go around anything you see for him out there

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01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 1: Florio I.

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01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 2: Would love him on the bills. He'd have to take

1422
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 2: a huge pay cook because Josh Allen's never had that

1423
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 2: style of wide receiver.

1424
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 1: But so they have no money.

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01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's why I said I was gonna say Buffalo.

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01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 2: This one could be a little fun. The Colts. You

1427
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 2: put him opposite of Michael Hitman, You give Anthony Richardson

1428
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 2: two big, deep threat kind of wide receivers. I would

1429
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 2: love that for fantasy purposes.

1430
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 1: For Richardson, yeah, I know that's interesting for sure. I

1431
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 1: think trying to think who else would be be interesting

1432
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 1: out there? For Mike Williams, I think the Colts are interesting. Yeah,

1433
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 1: I think you guys kind of hit the big ones.

1434
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:21,600
Speaker 1: The Raiders would be kind of interesting too, But I

1435
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:24,680
Speaker 1: just don't know that there's enough targets between Adams and

1436
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 1: ad Myers and my Adams and Myers to really go around.

1437
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 1: There any other interesting names out there, any guys that

1438
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 1: you want to see or are curious to see where

1439
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:36,679
Speaker 1: they land. It feels like a lot of the big

1440
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 1: fantasy relevant names have already landed. Anybody else that you

1441
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 1: guys are keeping an eye on.

1442
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 3: It's not a huge impactful player, But I like Josh Reynolds,

1443
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, I wouldn't be mad if he

1444
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 3: swings back to La, but I think he will find

1445
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 3: a land of spot where you can carve out a

1446
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 3: role and be a contributor.

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Speaker 1: All right, anybody for you.

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01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:01,719
Speaker 2: I'm curious about these slot guys, Tyler Boyd, Hunter Renfro,

1449
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 2: maybe throw Michael Thomas in there. Like, they're not slammed

1450
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 2: dunk fantasy players, but if they landed in the right situation,

1451
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 2: they could be useful.

1452
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm curious about Hunter Renfro. I think he can

1453
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 1: still be a valuable piece somewhere. But You're right, he's

1454
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 1: not a guy that's going to move the needle a

1455
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 1: ton fantasy wise, I think, especially as a free agent acquisition.

1456
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 1: So I'm not really sure, but we are going to

1457
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 1: keep an eye on what is happening as free agency continues.

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01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:31,679
Speaker 1: Now that is officially into the league year, by the way,

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Speaker 1: starting this Thursday, actually that would be tomorrow. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: what we're calling the NFL Fantasy cheat Sheet. It is

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Speaker 1: a live stream you can find on YouTube about twenty

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Speaker 1: five thirty minutes sort of all the news you need

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Speaker 1: to know, probably some news you don't need to know,

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Speaker 1: and a whole lot of fun. We also wanted to

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Speaker 1: be interactive, so jump in the chat, sendish your questions,

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Speaker 1: your comments. We very much want you to be a

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Speaker 1: part of this show. Hopefully it's a thing we can

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Speaker 1: do at least once a week to get started, just

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a quick little fantasy for you

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Speaker 1: in the middle of the week. In addition to doing

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Speaker 1: this podcast. This has been beefy a.

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Speaker 2: Little over an hour.

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Speaker 1: I actually thought would be little bit longer than it was,

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Speaker 1: but able to get through it kind of near the

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Speaker 1: end a little bit faster than I anticipated, so that

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Speaker 1: I'll do it for this edition of the NFL Fantasy

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Speaker 1: Football Podcast. They happy, safe and healthy, do good and

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Speaker 1: live well. Happy League, New Year, everybody. We will see

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Speaker 1: you on YouTube on Thursday. In the pod, We'll talk

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Speaker 1: to you next week.