WEBVTT - Michael Kelly isn't working

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<v Speaker 1>This is so good, and I'm so embarrassed because these

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<v Speaker 1>kids don't do this perfect. And that's why I'm telling this.

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<v Speaker 1>This is why I'm telling this story.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Off the Cup, my personal anti anxiety antidote.

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<v Speaker 2>I've told you guys this before. My job is weird.

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<v Speaker 2>It's weirder than you might think. Yeah, I do the news.

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<v Speaker 2>I cover politics. I've covered every presidential since two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and four, midterms, local state elections, national politics, foreign affairs, war,

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<v Speaker 2>national disasters. But being in the news has also opened

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<v Speaker 2>very fun, weird doors to other things like Bravo as

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<v Speaker 2>you know, which is also so fun. I love going

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<v Speaker 2>on watch What Happens Live or interviewing bravolebrities at Bravo

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<v Speaker 2>con or for this podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>I also did.

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<v Speaker 2>I did a Seinfeld and Curb talk show.

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<v Speaker 3>I did Jeopardy. I've been at a bunch of docs.

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<v Speaker 2>I once shot a pilot Get This with Dion Sanders,

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<v Speaker 2>Bobby Bones, Juliana Ransick, and Lauren Sanchez. Yeah that Lauren

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<v Speaker 2>Sanchez never saw the light of day. That's probably for

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<v Speaker 2>the best, But I don't know how I've ended up

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<v Speaker 2>in some of these places.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a wild ride. It's upmost have been a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of fun. Okay, So one of.

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<v Speaker 2>The coolest things I've ever done involves my next guest.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't know if he knows this.

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<v Speaker 2>You know him from countless TV shows and movies, from

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Ryan to Criminal Minds, The Adjustment Bureau to Lioness.

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<v Speaker 3>He's so talented.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he just always disappears into his roles and

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<v Speaker 2>yet you cannot take your eyes off of him. He's

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<v Speaker 2>also kind and thoughtful and funny. And he's a big

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<v Speaker 2>baseball fan, which I love. Michael Kelly, Welcome to Off

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<v Speaker 2>the Cup.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh thanks for having me. What a pleasure to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad you're here. I just think you're so great.

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<v Speaker 2>So I purposely left out the thing. You're perhaps apps

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<v Speaker 2>best known for your Emmy nominated role as Doug Stamper

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<v Speaker 2>in House of Cards?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you know I was also in House of Cards?

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<v Speaker 1>I did not. I'm embarrassed to say that. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>Did you play yourself?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I played myself in two episodes they did like a

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<v Speaker 2>CNN panel. It was like me Van van Jones, Paula

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<v Speaker 2>Gala Yes, yes, and like On with Jake, I think

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<v Speaker 2>On with Jake Tapper and we did two episodes and

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<v Speaker 2>it was the coolest thing I've ever done.

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<v Speaker 3>I still have the script. It's framed in my office.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved it, but I love we have that we

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<v Speaker 2>share this.

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<v Speaker 3>Little connection, even though I didn't get to meet you there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's that's super cool. I love that they did that.

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<v Speaker 1>On Ause of Cards. They use a lot of real

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<v Speaker 1>people and you know, just everything that bo Willheman did

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<v Speaker 1>with that show, though it was made everything so infinture,

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<v Speaker 1>you know the way they you know, if you had

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<v Speaker 1>an if you were holding a newspaper article, it actually

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<v Speaker 1>had what you were talking about. It was a written article.

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<v Speaker 1>They actually went to the effort of making the newspaper

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<v Speaker 1>article about what you were talking about, which is never

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<v Speaker 1>the case never.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it was pretty wild.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that very similitude and you know, commitment to getting

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<v Speaker 2>it right is something we loved as well in my business.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's really funny. The common saying was.

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<v Speaker 2>That Politics was actually a lot more like Veep than

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<v Speaker 2>House of Cards, But I think that's why we loved

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<v Speaker 2>it so much.

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<v Speaker 3>And Veep was hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>We but like real close to reality, like real close, and.

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<v Speaker 3>House of Cards felt more like a true escape.

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<v Speaker 2>And then of course reality decided to say hold my

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<v Speaker 2>beer and gave us Donald Trump, and then it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, oh, you know, House of Cards was was a comedy.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the insane, look at wild political ride, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden weren't so crazy anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was just like, oh wow, yeah, so while

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<v Speaker 1>we were making it, that actually happened, and that was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty pretty wild. Man, it was wild.

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<v Speaker 2>I I don't think it's wrong to say that you

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<v Speaker 2>were the breakout star of that show. I mean, we

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<v Speaker 2>just loved watching your intensity. And you know, I was

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<v Speaker 2>just looking at a post headlines every person Frank and

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<v Speaker 2>Claire Underwood kilt.

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<v Speaker 3>Those two were just terrorists.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, that's so good. There's many, There's many, There's so

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<v Speaker 1>many directly and indirectly.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>What did you think when you saw the finale, the

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<v Speaker 2>script for the finale, I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was so crazy, right, because all that stuff

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<v Speaker 1>happened with Kevin, and you know, he was gone, and

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, the writers had to I had

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<v Speaker 1>to rewrite an entire season in a very shortened amount

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<v Speaker 1>of time. And so really it was Frank and Melissa

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<v Speaker 1>and God bless in the writers and chowrunners at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and Robin and myself and we would sit there and

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<v Speaker 1>we were brainstorming and talking things through as we were filming,

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<v Speaker 1>because it was they were given and the almost impossible

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<v Speaker 1>task of having to rewrite your entire season, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>in such a limited amount of time without a full

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<v Speaker 1>writer's room. It was insane and without oh, without your

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<v Speaker 1>lead actor. Right, there's that too, So you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>knew it would just sort of it all happened while

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<v Speaker 1>we were working, you know, the the ending. They came

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<v Speaker 1>up with the ending while we were doing it. So

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<v Speaker 1>not not that episode that day, but they're during the crison.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I knew, or at least I figured that

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<v Speaker 1>he was gonna go.

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<v Speaker 2>He's going, right, yeah, And I don't know was I

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<v Speaker 2>assume assassination was discussed rights his political figure, like I

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<v Speaker 2>assume a number of things were discussed of how to

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<v Speaker 2>get rid of your lead who also happens to be

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<v Speaker 2>playing the president, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, Like what do you do? What do you have?

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<v Speaker 1>How's it going to happen? And then and then the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that I did it is just it's crazy, it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Remarkable, remarkable, And that was Yeah, as you mentioned, that

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<v Speaker 2>was around Kevin's downfall. Woll What was he like to

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<v Speaker 2>work with before any of that happened.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, for me, you know, honestly, I got

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<v Speaker 1>the job and I was just like, oh wow, I

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<v Speaker 1>get to go learn with you know, Kevin Spacey and

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<v Speaker 1>Robin Wright and Kamara and David Fincher and like all

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<v Speaker 1>those people were set when I got the job. So

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<v Speaker 1>for me, I was just like, I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>go be a sponge. I want to learn as much

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<v Speaker 1>as I can. And so every day working with him,

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<v Speaker 1>I just watched him, you know, and I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>did my stuff, but I very much paid attention. He

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<v Speaker 1>was one of my favorite actors. You know, he's so

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly talented. Yeah, and I think that's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most unfortunate things from everything that happened, is we will

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<v Speaker 1>be deprived of most likely deprived of seeing that man's talent. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever again, probably right. So for me, it was just

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things that I was like, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>going to watch this guy and I'm going to learn

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to see how he does it. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we all do it different, we all do

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<v Speaker 1>the same, we all do it different, you know. So

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<v Speaker 1>for me, it was just it was fun to watch

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<v Speaker 1>and learn every day, you know, and and pick his

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<v Speaker 1>brain when I could. And he was pretty He's pretty private,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. He got in his corner and worked really

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<v Speaker 1>hard on his stuff. I'd be in my corner working

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<v Speaker 1>hard on my stuff and they'd say we're ready for

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, and you go and you can do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was an incredible experience as a as a

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I say young actor, I wasn't so young,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was. It was ten years ago. I was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I was younger than I am now. Certainly

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<v Speaker 1>you were younger thirteen years ago, and I wasn't. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really have had a career, but I didn't. The

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<v Speaker 1>House cards really put me on the map. So for me,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like, oh, gonna I'm gonna absorb here, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, Yeah, how did that role come to you?

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<v Speaker 1>So crazy? I auditioned for every male role you saw

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<v Speaker 1>on that show like I was originally. When I auditioned,

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<v Speaker 1>I would go into my agency and just put myself

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<v Speaker 1>on tape for Hammerschmidt, the guy who ran the paper

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<v Speaker 1>for Lucas, who was Kate Mart's love interest for the

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<v Speaker 1>Corey Stall character. Yeah, I love that character me too.

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<v Speaker 1>And I kept kept going back in. They kept every

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<v Speaker 1>week or two weeks will pass and they'd be like,

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<v Speaker 1>they want to see you again for another role. They

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<v Speaker 1>want to see you again for the role. It's like great.

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<v Speaker 1>And so eventually lay and David Fincher came to New

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<v Speaker 1>York and they were you know, they're in LA and

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<v Speaker 1>they they came to New York to meet some folks

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<v Speaker 1>and I had like this, I had a callback for

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<v Speaker 1>Lucas and the Corey Stall character. I'm like, you know

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<v Speaker 1>his name. It was just the two of them in

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<v Speaker 1>the room and myself and Fincher just kept was pacing

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<v Speaker 1>in the background. Loray's reading with me, and he would say,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, try like this, Okay, now do it like this,

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<v Speaker 1>all right on this take, I want you to think

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<v Speaker 1>about this and this and this and this. He's just

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<v Speaker 1>throwing all these different like forty five minutes. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, this is so cool. And at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of it was like and I read for these

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<v Speaker 1>two different characters. At the end, he goes, all right, Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you can play anybody, but I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>have you read for somebody else, and in my head,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I have auditioned for every male character who's left.

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<v Speaker 1>In my head is like and thinking back, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>well Stamper didn't really say a lot in those first

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<v Speaker 1>two episodes, you know. And he was like he's And

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<v Speaker 1>I said, okay, well, I'll just go sit outside and

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<v Speaker 1>go over and I'll come back in and he was

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<v Speaker 1>like no, no, no, no, you can put it on tape.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, I'd really rather do it with

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<v Speaker 1>you here in the room. And he was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>promise I'm going to watch it. And I was like

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<v Speaker 1>he was telling me no, and so I said, okay, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and I left and I went with Julie Shubert in

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<v Speaker 1>New York City into her office, like I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>A week later and put myself on tape for Stamper.

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<v Speaker 1>And then this is crazy. I went to New Orleans

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<v Speaker 1>to film now you see me, yep, And I was

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<v Speaker 1>down there when they had what's called the test. And

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<v Speaker 1>for people who don't know, a test is when they

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<v Speaker 1>you're making it to the semifinals, they and they basically

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<v Speaker 1>they bring you in and you go in front of producers, directors,

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<v Speaker 1>studio and in this case, it was Netflix, and I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't available to go because they couldn't let me go

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<v Speaker 1>because some locations that we had locked down, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I literally couldn't go to the callbacks. And they were like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>they're just going to play your tape at the callbacks,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, that's gone. And I literally was

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<v Speaker 1>like it's gone because you you know, being in the

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<v Speaker 1>room and being able to do things on the fly,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it's so different. And so I just wait

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<v Speaker 1>to myself. I was like, that was a great experience

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm grateful for it, and David Finch or Laray

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<v Speaker 1>Mayfield know who I am now and that's great, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And then I don't know, like a few days later,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll never forget the exact place the window. I was

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<v Speaker 1>looking out, how far that window was open. A pebble

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<v Speaker 1>I knocked off the window sill. I got a call

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<v Speaker 1>from my manager and he said the assistant got on

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<v Speaker 1>and said, hey, Michael, I be for you, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like cool, And so he gets on. He was

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<v Speaker 1>like hey Doug, and I was like, alb it's Michael.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I said, you got me mixed up, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, oh, I'm sorry, I was looking for Doug Stamper,

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<v Speaker 1>and I literally just stopped and I was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just had a tear in mind. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, like I get I get emotional talking

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<v Speaker 1>about it now because it was so that was a

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<v Speaker 1>life changing moment. And somehow at that moment that I

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<v Speaker 1>was looking at that window when I knocked that pebble

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<v Speaker 1>off and looking down the street in New Orleans, I knew.

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<v Speaker 1>I just knew, and uh yeah, that was That was

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<v Speaker 1>a moment I'll never forget ever. I Mean, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>very long winded story about how it came about.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great story, and I have like a vicarious

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<v Speaker 2>hill because we all hopefully have at least one of

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<v Speaker 2>those moments in our life where we know everything is

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<v Speaker 2>going to change, we get the thing we're desperate to get,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, kind of against all.

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<v Speaker 3>Odds, and we remember where we were. I like, I

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<v Speaker 3>can feel it. That's incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, pretty well.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, did you know at the time that it was

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<v Speaker 2>going to be this huge phenomenon or I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure you could tell the talent was good and that

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<v Speaker 2>the people at attached to it were good, But did

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<v Speaker 2>you know what it was going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, I knew at that moment. At that moment,

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<v Speaker 1>I knew that I was going to have this opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to go work with people who I just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>had on the highest of highest pedestals. Yeah, from Bow

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<v Speaker 1>to Fincher to Robin to Kevin, everyone involved, And so

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm going to go have the time

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<v Speaker 1>of my life working with the best of the best.

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<v Speaker 1>Right Netflix, at the time, this was their first streamer,

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<v Speaker 1>this was the first show. Like, yeah, it's crazy to

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<v Speaker 1>think that that was thirteen years ago and that was

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<v Speaker 1>the first streaming show. So no, I had no idea

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<v Speaker 1>that it was going to be what it became. To

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<v Speaker 1>the point, yeah, where I was, I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess we were on the second episode and David Fincher

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<v Speaker 1>and I had become somewhat close, and he said we

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<v Speaker 1>were I forget what we were doing, but he was like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to go watch a rough cut of

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<v Speaker 1>the first in my office? And I was like yes.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like all right, and so I went in

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<v Speaker 1>there and I watched it, and I came out and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, He's like, what'd you think. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>holy shit, He's like, what did you think I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to do? I was like, I know, but holy.

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<v Speaker 3>Shit, it was unreal.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was like He's like, were you down of me?

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, no, it's not that. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>like that was And I remember calling my manager and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Buddy, we are making something so special

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<v Speaker 1>and so different that people are going to lose their minds.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I don't know if anyone's ever going to

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<v Speaker 1>see it, but we're making something really special because oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, who knew what that was going to be?

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Like, yeah, that's the craziest and this was going

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<v Speaker 3>to be Yeah that's what I mean, Like, was this

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<v Speaker 3>going to be?

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<v Speaker 1>Like? You know how many failed networks and things have

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<v Speaker 1>there been?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this something that we just we made this incredible content.

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<v Speaker 1>We're to just disappear into the ethos, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, listen, it didn't matter because it worked. It more

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<v Speaker 3>than worked.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, I want to talk more about your work,

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<v Speaker 2>but first I always like to ask Michael what kind

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<v Speaker 2>of kid were you?

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<v Speaker 1>I was not a great student. I was very mischievous,

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<v Speaker 1>but not in a bad mean way, never mean spirited

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<v Speaker 1>trouble I was, but I was in trouble a good amount.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a hard time, had our time focusing. I

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<v Speaker 1>still do, but at the time, at the time, it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't adhd or whatever though, you know, they were just like, oh,

0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:40.920
<v Speaker 1>he's a spas or yeah he's nuts. Yeah. But I

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<v Speaker 1>was outside all the time at the same time, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like we got on our bikes in the morning and

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<v Speaker 1>we would come home when you heard the back porch bell,

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<v Speaker 1>like it was right. You'd be at the pool, the

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<v Speaker 1>tennis courts, the bike trails or whatever, you would hear

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<v Speaker 1>the bell and you go home. So very active, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and somewhat mischievous.

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<v Speaker 2>What you're born in Philly, What age do you move

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<v Speaker 2>to Georgia?

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<v Speaker 1>Like a year like I was a year and a

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<v Speaker 1>half old. I think we moved to Georgia to Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>suburbs Atlanta. Then we moved to Texas until I was

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<v Speaker 1>in fifth grade and then fifth grade on my folks

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<v Speaker 1>or my father passed this year, but my mother still

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<v Speaker 1>lives in the same house we grew up in. So

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<v Speaker 1>pretty cool, pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 3>And I know your dad just passed and I'm so sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you. What kind of dad was he?

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<v Speaker 1>The best? He really was, truly the best. He was

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<v Speaker 1>a flawed man, like many men of that generation, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>But he was the best at that I could have

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<v Speaker 1>have had rest asked for. And he was a best friend,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was he was so many things to the

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<v Speaker 1>four of us. I'm the oldest of four. So he

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<v Speaker 1>was an incredible role model. Like I said, there was

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<v Speaker 1>a he eventually quit drinking and smoking and everything, but

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<v Speaker 1>there was a period there where he probably wasn't the

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<v Speaker 1>best role model. Yeah, but at the same but at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, he was a hell of a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of fun of your own. Maybe not as much for

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<v Speaker 1>my mom, but for the kids he was us. But

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<v Speaker 1>he was a good man too, and he taught us.

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<v Speaker 1>He taught us all how to be how to be

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<v Speaker 1>really good people, and how to have a good sense

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<v Speaker 1>of humor about life in general, and just have fun. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>he had a lot of fun, and he taught us

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<v Speaker 1>how to have a lot of fun. And we still

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<v Speaker 1>we still do. We're very very tight family. Mom and

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<v Speaker 1>the and the forces and all the grandkids.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, what did he make of your decision to become

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<v Speaker 2>an actor.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he thought I was fucking nuts. If you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know the you know my mom, especially though she

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<v Speaker 1>was like, because I was studying political science, I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to be a lawyer and and I fell into it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember calling her and she was like, well, Michael,

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<v Speaker 1>if you think about it, if you if you're a lawyer,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to get to act all the time. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, no, Mom, this is this is really

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<v Speaker 1>what I want to do. And but then to their credit,

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<v Speaker 1>they came to see me in the Glass of Menager

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<v Speaker 1>and and afterwards I remember both my mom and dad

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<v Speaker 1>having having tears in their eyes, now like we're behind

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<v Speaker 1>you one thousand percent, Like they didn't have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of money, and you know, they weren't like we're behind you,

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<v Speaker 1>go get a place in New York, like yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 1>a good kid. It was it was more like we

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<v Speaker 1>believe in you and there's no and that's it for me, man,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that that was it Like having them and my

0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:31.879
<v Speaker 1>siblings never doubt that I was going to be an actor,

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<v Speaker 1>like that's everything. They never said what about this or

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<v Speaker 1>what are you gonna do if it doesn't work out?

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<v Speaker 1>They've never said that to me, And so I think

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<v Speaker 1>this half the reason I made it. You know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm believing in you like that someone that you care

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<v Speaker 1>about so much, believing in you like that.

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<v Speaker 2>You're at Coastal Carolina right studying. So when do you

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<v Speaker 2>fall into it? How does it fall onto your lap?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was my third year. That's why I

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<v Speaker 1>stayed for five. I was I need an elective. My

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<v Speaker 1>advisor was like, well, if you want to be a lawyer,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to be comfortable getting up in front

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<v Speaker 1>of people. I recommend you take this acting class. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, wow. He said you had too many.

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to take too many core classes. And

0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:13.600
<v Speaker 1>he was like you're going to fail. He's like, you

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<v Speaker 1>need some electives. And I was like okay, and so

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<v Speaker 1>he recommended this class. And then you know, the teacher

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I don't know, two weeks in me to

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<v Speaker 1>do the scene. And I was like, I'll go and

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<v Speaker 1>I do it with my my scene partner's Sonny and

0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:28.320
<v Speaker 1>and she was like, can I talk to you after class?

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like yeah. She's like, how long have

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<v Speaker 1>you been acting? I was like, I've never done this before.

0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:35.199
<v Speaker 1>And she was like, oh, you got something, and she

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<v Speaker 1>just her and the other professor, Chuck Wessell, and her

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<v Speaker 1>name was Sandy Shackelford. They just encouraged me, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was this. I was the first person to graduate

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<v Speaker 1>with a theater degree there, so they finished the program

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<v Speaker 1>for me so that I could graduate with that degree

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<v Speaker 1>in five years. And they you know, there wasn't a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of kids, so I basically had two private teachers,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know a lot of our plays were cast

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<v Speaker 1>with some mostly the school, but people were taken from

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<v Speaker 1>the community as well because we didn't have a big

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<v Speaker 1>but we had this gorgeous theater still to this day,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most beautiful theaters I've ever performed in.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it was just just a total fluke. Or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's just like that's where you're supposed to be,

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<v Speaker 1>right where you're supposed to, where you're supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>because I went only was that coastal, because I was

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<v Speaker 1>a runner and I had a scholarship to a few

0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:30.879
<v Speaker 1>small regional schools and that was one of them. My

0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:32.639
<v Speaker 1>dad and I went to visit and we left and

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<v Speaker 1>he was like, oh, you're going here, right. It took

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<v Speaker 1>us down to the He took us down to the

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<v Speaker 1>beach and he's like, so we train here sometimes and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know if we ever went

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<v Speaker 1>back there to train again, but he was it was

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<v Speaker 1>a selling point. I'm sure. Yeah. We drove away from

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<v Speaker 1>the beach in like one minute, and the drive days

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<v Speaker 1>like you're going here, right, I was, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>That's incredible though.

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<v Speaker 2>So you you have the schools sort of not only

0:19:56.680 --> 0:20:01.000
<v Speaker 2>nurture this talent in you, but also create program around

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<v Speaker 2>you basically, so I imagine you feel pretty obligated like Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go out and do this now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah right. Yeah. They actually helped me get my first

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<v Speaker 1>job too, which was a I was I did like

0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:21.800
<v Speaker 1>this touring children's theater. It's like it's like four people

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<v Speaker 1>in an eighties custom van.

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<v Speaker 4>With with the sets and the actors and everything, and

0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:32.080
<v Speaker 4>you would you would take off and you would go perform,

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<v Speaker 4>the kids throwing snot at you and ship it was.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like when I remember I got the job,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, like I want to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, just don't. I don't want to. I don't

0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:45.320
<v Speaker 1>want to play a tree, you know. I'm They're like no,

0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:48.120
<v Speaker 1>it's usually like the Prince and then the bad guy,

0:20:48.280 --> 0:20:51.280
<v Speaker 1>and then the big bad the big bad Wolf, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the princess and I was like, all right, So

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<v Speaker 1>I did that for like six months and then and

0:20:57.119 --> 0:20:59.879
<v Speaker 1>then they asked me to run the program, which simply

0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:01.399
<v Speaker 1>you were the driver of the van and you were

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<v Speaker 1>in charge of four people. It wasn't was It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a big You got like fifty bucks more a week

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<v Speaker 1>or something. And I was like, no, I'm going to

0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:09.320
<v Speaker 1>go to New York man, I'm going to go for it.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was it. I moved to New York City

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<v Speaker 1>and I went for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was it a slow start or did you get in

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<v Speaker 2>pretty very quickly?

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<v Speaker 1>No, it was it was I want to say, it

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<v Speaker 1>was about seven years before I started to make a

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<v Speaker 1>living wow as an actor, and even then I probably

0:21:26.920 --> 0:21:29.600
<v Speaker 1>kept a job, a side job for a few more

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<v Speaker 1>years after that. Just you know, I was seven years

0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:37.280
<v Speaker 1>when I got my first TV show. But all along

0:21:37.280 --> 0:21:39.600
<v Speaker 1>the way, there were baby steps. And that's what I

0:21:39.640 --> 0:21:42.760
<v Speaker 1>always say to young actors. I'm like, as long as

0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:45.719
<v Speaker 1>you have as long as you're taking baby steps, as

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<v Speaker 1>long as you're making some progress. You know, if you're

0:21:48.800 --> 0:21:51.800
<v Speaker 1>just flatlining, you're there. You know, I'm never wanting to

0:21:51.840 --> 0:21:53.480
<v Speaker 1>say give up on your dream. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, you're forty years old and you're not seeing

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<v Speaker 1>baby steps. It's time to good teach acting, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like because it's hard as shit, it's really really hard.

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<v Speaker 1>But all along the way, you know, it's like seventy

0:22:06.720 --> 0:22:08.800
<v Speaker 1>five dollars a day and then one hundred and fifty

0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:11.479
<v Speaker 1>dollars a day, and then you know, it just it

0:22:11.520 --> 0:22:15.000
<v Speaker 1>got better and better, but slowly. And that was you know,

0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:18.520
<v Speaker 1>going back to the family thing, like sharing every baby

0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:22.520
<v Speaker 1>stuff with them and then being like, yeah, you know, yeah,

0:22:22.560 --> 0:22:24.240
<v Speaker 1>I get a commercial, you know, and then I once

0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:26.639
<v Speaker 1>I started getting commercials and I started making good, you know,

0:22:27.920 --> 0:22:30.920
<v Speaker 1>good money there. And that was back when they used

0:22:30.920 --> 0:22:32.479
<v Speaker 1>to pay you to do that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh huh, right, did you ever consider stopping?

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<v Speaker 1>I did?

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<v Speaker 3>You did?

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<v Speaker 1>I very much did. I was about thirty eight years

0:22:43.760 --> 0:22:46.679
<v Speaker 1>old and I was making a living. I make good money.

0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:49.359
<v Speaker 1>And my brother, who's my best friend, had a very

0:22:49.359 --> 0:22:52.920
<v Speaker 1>successful business building houses. He and his wife are design

0:22:53.000 --> 0:22:56.760
<v Speaker 1>build team in Atlanta. And I love that stuff, like

0:22:57.359 --> 0:22:59.800
<v Speaker 1>this house that we just did is our fifth or

0:22:59.800 --> 0:23:02.160
<v Speaker 1>six renovation. Like Karen and I love it. We love

0:23:02.240 --> 0:23:05.240
<v Speaker 1>doing this stuff. So he was like, I can't find

0:23:05.240 --> 0:23:09.679
<v Speaker 1>someone to take on that I need someone. The business

0:23:09.760 --> 0:23:12.639
<v Speaker 1>is growing and I need someone and I've offered it

0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:14.600
<v Speaker 1>to so many people and be like, here, I want

0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:16.600
<v Speaker 1>to give you part of my company. He's like, but

0:23:16.680 --> 0:23:19.159
<v Speaker 1>nobody has our work ethic. And I was like, you

0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:23.240
<v Speaker 1>know what, man, I was a year of getting you know,

0:23:23.400 --> 0:23:26.320
<v Speaker 1>three episodes of Sopranos at like five thousand dollars an

0:23:26.320 --> 0:23:28.120
<v Speaker 1>episode or whatever it was. It was not a lot

0:23:28.119 --> 0:23:31.800
<v Speaker 1>of money, and it was a whole year of being like,

0:23:32.040 --> 0:23:34.760
<v Speaker 1>it's between you and somebody else, and it was somebody else,

0:23:34.840 --> 0:23:37.240
<v Speaker 1>somebody else, somebody else, somebody else do the three episodes

0:23:37.280 --> 0:23:39.960
<v Speaker 1>of Sopranos. I end my year with fifteen thousand dollars

0:23:39.960 --> 0:23:42.600
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, my brother's like, dude, we could

0:23:42.680 --> 0:23:46.080
<v Speaker 1>crush together, right. And I called my manager and I

0:23:46.119 --> 0:23:48.320
<v Speaker 1>was like, Buddy, I think I'm gonna I'm gonna go

0:23:48.320 --> 0:23:50.920
<v Speaker 1>to Atlanta and build houses. And he was like, no,

0:23:50.960 --> 0:23:54.200
<v Speaker 1>you're not. And I was like, I could be happy, dude,

0:23:54.240 --> 0:23:56.040
<v Speaker 1>I know I could be happy doing that. And he

0:23:56.080 --> 0:23:58.520
<v Speaker 1>was like, give me to your forty I promise this

0:23:58.600 --> 0:24:00.000
<v Speaker 1>is how you're doing with the rest of your life

0:24:00.000 --> 0:24:05.000
<v Speaker 1>if I absolutely promise you, And so wow, I don't know.

0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:07.520
<v Speaker 1>A couple of weeks went by, and maybe a month

0:24:07.600 --> 0:24:09.600
<v Speaker 1>or two, and it was a lot in that month

0:24:09.680 --> 0:24:12.119
<v Speaker 1>or two. I remember there being a lot of like

0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:14.840
<v Speaker 1>talking with Karen and you know, She's like, I don't know,

0:24:15.000 --> 0:24:17.320
<v Speaker 1>and it was just back and forth. And then I

0:24:17.400 --> 0:24:21.679
<v Speaker 1>booked the HBO limited series called Generation Kill and that

0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:25.359
<v Speaker 1>sent me to Africa for six months. And while I

0:24:25.440 --> 0:24:28.919
<v Speaker 1>was doing that, I booked the Clint Eastwood movie Change

0:24:28.960 --> 0:24:32.240
<v Speaker 1>Link with Angelina Joe Lee Yep, And that's sort of

0:24:32.640 --> 0:24:36.840
<v Speaker 1>that was Prehouse of Cards. But what Clint and Angelina

0:24:36.880 --> 0:24:41.240
<v Speaker 1>said about me publicly before the film came out, they

0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:45.040
<v Speaker 1>both said things about me publicly that that in the

0:24:45.080 --> 0:24:47.560
<v Speaker 1>Whispers of the movie got me in that tend to

0:24:47.560 --> 0:24:50.880
<v Speaker 1>watch that year for Variety, which sort of really puts

0:24:50.920 --> 0:24:54.080
<v Speaker 1>you out there, and then and then things just kind

0:24:54.080 --> 0:24:56.879
<v Speaker 1>of went from there. So it was really I was

0:24:57.080 --> 0:24:59.760
<v Speaker 1>very close, yeah to not giving up to just change

0:24:59.760 --> 0:25:01.800
<v Speaker 1>in horses. You know, I never thought of it as

0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:04.400
<v Speaker 1>given up, because I was like, I've done it, I've

0:25:04.440 --> 0:25:07.080
<v Speaker 1>made a good living doing it. I'm not I know,

0:25:07.080 --> 0:25:09.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do it again, but it's like how much

0:25:09.840 --> 0:25:13.800
<v Speaker 1>do you want to to do this? Like it's hard.

0:25:14.040 --> 0:25:15.800
<v Speaker 1>And I tell young actors that all the time. I'm like,

0:25:16.440 --> 0:25:18.720
<v Speaker 1>it's not just hard when you start, it's hard forever,

0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Like it's yeah, I have all these great jobs that

0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:27.080
<v Speaker 1>I've done in my career, and you know, you don't

0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:31.080
<v Speaker 1>you never know, you never know. I've had friends be

0:25:31.320 --> 0:25:34.240
<v Speaker 1>very successful at this and they don't do it anymore.

0:25:34.320 --> 0:25:38.480
<v Speaker 1>You know. Yeah, it's very difficult to maintain. You know.

0:25:39.160 --> 0:25:43.760
<v Speaker 3>Wow, Yeah, I do know. What was your worst audition?

0:25:44.119 --> 0:25:47.160
<v Speaker 2>And tell me, like, who were you auditioning with against

0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:50.200
<v Speaker 2>when you were coming up? Like what other guys would

0:25:50.240 --> 0:25:51.560
<v Speaker 2>you see in the room all the time.

0:25:52.000 --> 0:25:56.240
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's funny, that's you know David Harbor, Yeah, from

0:25:56.320 --> 0:25:58.679
<v Speaker 1>Stranger Things. So David and I would see each other

0:25:58.760 --> 0:26:01.280
<v Speaker 1>all the time, and and to the point where where

0:26:01.600 --> 0:26:04.760
<v Speaker 1>it was mostly the commercial circuit that we were in

0:26:04.880 --> 0:26:07.960
<v Speaker 1>together and Jim gaff again, the three of us see

0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:11.200
<v Speaker 1>each other. We're totally totally different, but we would see

0:26:11.240 --> 0:26:13.840
<v Speaker 1>each other all the time. And it's funny because now

0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:15.920
<v Speaker 1>all these years later, like I saw David at the

0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Emmys one year and we're like, oh my god, wait,

0:26:19.800 --> 0:26:22.880
<v Speaker 1>we never we never hung out, but you knew each

0:26:22.920 --> 0:26:25.280
<v Speaker 1>other so well from and and Gaff again we both

0:26:25.920 --> 0:26:30.359
<v Speaker 1>had kids at the same little elementary or kindergarten school

0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:34.800
<v Speaker 1>whatever in the city, and we reconnected there and so

0:26:35.880 --> 0:26:37.679
<v Speaker 1>and now he's got a place up here near me

0:26:37.760 --> 0:26:40.840
<v Speaker 1>as well. And so it's funny you see these cats again.

0:26:41.560 --> 0:26:44.440
<v Speaker 1>So those are two guys that just they really stick

0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:46.359
<v Speaker 1>out of my head as they were always around. And

0:26:46.840 --> 0:26:49.280
<v Speaker 1>it's great when we see each other now. But Tom

0:26:49.280 --> 0:26:52.520
<v Speaker 1>Scott was good, good buddy of mine that we sort

0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:54.199
<v Speaker 1>of you know, he was ahead of me and I

0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:56.000
<v Speaker 1>would always ask and be able to ask him for

0:26:56.040 --> 0:26:58.639
<v Speaker 1>advice and he was always so great, great to me

0:26:58.800 --> 0:26:59.200
<v Speaker 1>for that.

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<v Speaker 3>What was a bad audition, Oh my god.

0:27:03.480 --> 0:27:09.040
<v Speaker 1>So it was for this is so good. And I'm

0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:12.360
<v Speaker 1>so embarrassed because these kids don't do this. And that's

0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:14.720
<v Speaker 1>why I'm telling this. This is why I'm telling this story.

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:16.360
<v Speaker 3>It's a cautionary tale. Got it.

0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:22.200
<v Speaker 1>So it was the first night that I kissed my

0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:27.320
<v Speaker 1>now wife and we went out and I was just like,

0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:30.480
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I'm just head over your this is

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:32.800
<v Speaker 1>this is my this is my wife like I know it.

0:27:33.600 --> 0:27:36.600
<v Speaker 1>And we went out and we stayed out until I

0:27:36.640 --> 0:27:38.240
<v Speaker 1>don't know, we closed the bars. Now I was like

0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:40.720
<v Speaker 1>four right in the city. And then I walked her

0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:44.240
<v Speaker 1>home and then we stood on her stoop and made

0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:48.200
<v Speaker 1>out for probably an hour and just like not wanting

0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:50.600
<v Speaker 1>to say goodbye, you know, like just kissing and hanging

0:27:50.640 --> 0:27:54.080
<v Speaker 1>out and kissing. And then I went home and so

0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:55.919
<v Speaker 1>now it's and then I walked home because I was

0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:59.479
<v Speaker 1>on such a high. And it was probably like five

0:27:59.680 --> 0:28:02.000
<v Speaker 1>thirty morning. In my audition was like at nine thirty,

0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:04.480
<v Speaker 1>and it was for or ten o'clock maybe, and it

0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:08.119
<v Speaker 1>was for a Johnny Knoxville TV shown us to play's brother.

0:28:08.960 --> 0:28:11.360
<v Speaker 1>And I went in there and I guarantee you I still,

0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:14.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I must have reek of alcohol, like I

0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:16.960
<v Speaker 1>was hammered hammer. I was still. I'm sure I was

0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:22.199
<v Speaker 1>still drunk. And I went in and she literally the

0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:24.200
<v Speaker 1>castal director, she was like, are you okay?

0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:26.679
<v Speaker 3>And I was like, and I was like, oh.

0:28:26.560 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 1>Shit, I'm not hiding this one. You know. I had showered,

0:28:29.119 --> 0:28:31.919
<v Speaker 1>I had brushed my tea that listerine and done everything

0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:34.600
<v Speaker 1>I could to try to make myself presentable. And what

0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:37.720
<v Speaker 1>I should have done was just I never had ever

0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:40.400
<v Speaker 1>called in sick or been like I'd never not shown

0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:44.160
<v Speaker 1>to a very good work ethic, and I was like, yeah,

0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:46.960
<v Speaker 1>I gotta go, when really a smart thing would have

0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:49.880
<v Speaker 1>been like I'm sick, yea, because I was. I was

0:28:49.920 --> 0:28:54.240
<v Speaker 1>definitely sick, and one shape or form, I was sick,

0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:57.680
<v Speaker 1>and so I remember asking me okay, and then it

0:28:57.720 --> 0:28:59.040
<v Speaker 1>was just kind of like one of those things when

0:28:59.440 --> 0:29:01.240
<v Speaker 1>when I did it and then I left and she

0:29:01.400 --> 0:29:04.800
<v Speaker 1>was like okay, Michael, and I was like, I'll see it.

0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:08.080
<v Speaker 1>We knew each other, you know, I've been doing it

0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:08.719
<v Speaker 1>for a little bit.

0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:09.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:13.000
<v Speaker 1>I was just so embarrassed and nothing was ever said

0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 1>of it again. But she maybe she had a conversation

0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:19.680
<v Speaker 1>with manager who knows. But you can't do that.

0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:20.520
<v Speaker 3>You can't.

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:22.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm really lucky that I had another chance with her.

0:29:22.880 --> 0:29:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Like there's a lot of castin writors who rightfully would

0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:26.960
<v Speaker 1>be like, I'm not seeing this is you have a

0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:31.080
<v Speaker 1>These are opportunities that are not everyone who wants to

0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:33.840
<v Speaker 1>go out for a Johnny Knoxville TV spin off ship whatever,

0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:36.640
<v Speaker 1>gets the opportunity to read for it to be seen

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:40.040
<v Speaker 1>for it. They only see some people. Yeah, your agent,

0:29:40.160 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 1>your manager worked hard to get you those appointments, and

0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 1>to just throw it away like that was so needless

0:29:46.000 --> 0:29:47.160
<v Speaker 1>to say that never happened again.

0:29:47.760 --> 0:29:49.560
<v Speaker 3>It was that's a terrible feeling.

0:29:49.600 --> 0:29:53.160
<v Speaker 2>But listen, I feel like you made the right choice,

0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Like it works out with you.

0:29:55.920 --> 0:29:59.200
<v Speaker 1>I have the most amazing wife and uh and that

0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:03.560
<v Speaker 1>night's unfre gettable and yeah.

0:30:02.760 --> 0:30:03.840
<v Speaker 3>That's an awesome story.

0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:07.080
<v Speaker 2>What's the what's the hardest thing you've had to learn

0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:09.560
<v Speaker 2>as an actor Spanish?

0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:17.400
<v Speaker 1>For Jack Ryan? That was I. And this is really

0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:21.760
<v Speaker 1>funny too, because I was I was on the final

0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:23.800
<v Speaker 1>season Outs the Cards and my manager called me and

0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:27.600
<v Speaker 1>he's like, hey, Jack Ryan. They had done the first

0:30:27.600 --> 0:30:30.920
<v Speaker 1>season and they said, Jack Ryan's really interested in you

0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:34.880
<v Speaker 1>for to come join the show. And it's a one year,

0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:38.040
<v Speaker 1>one year commitment, and I was like perfect because I

0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to sign up for another six years on something.

0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:42.400
<v Speaker 1>So I was like great. And so they sent me

0:30:43.040 --> 0:30:45.600
<v Speaker 1>the first episode of the first two episodes of the

0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:49.600
<v Speaker 1>first season and the first script for the second season,

0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:54.480
<v Speaker 1>and I watched the show and I was like, holy shit, man,

0:30:54.520 --> 0:30:57.000
<v Speaker 1>this is really good. And I loved John like I

0:30:57.000 --> 0:30:58.720
<v Speaker 1>had met John before because Emily and I did a

0:30:58.720 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 1>movie together and I met John. I just I love yeah, yeah,

0:31:02.480 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 1>and now we're dear friends. And then I can read

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:08.280
<v Speaker 1>the script and say, my character is the uh. He

0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:11.280
<v Speaker 1>was the chief of station for for the CIA in

0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:15.719
<v Speaker 1>crocuss Venezuela, so obviously flute in Spanish. And there's this

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:18.840
<v Speaker 1>whole interrogation scene where I'm speaking Spanish most of the time,

0:31:18.840 --> 0:31:20.880
<v Speaker 1>you speaking English. There's a whole introgation scene where I'm

0:31:20.920 --> 0:31:23.480
<v Speaker 1>speaking Spanish and then odd Spanish here and there. And

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:26.960
<v Speaker 1>I was like, huh, and I was like so I.

0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:29.040
<v Speaker 1>So They're like, they want to do a zoom with you,

0:31:29.200 --> 0:31:32.440
<v Speaker 1>the creators, and I was like great, and so I

0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:37.120
<v Speaker 1>said to them, I was like, guys, I just write

0:31:37.240 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 1>up right out of the gate after the niceties and

0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:41.280
<v Speaker 1>nice to meet you and all that I said, but

0:31:41.400 --> 0:31:43.840
<v Speaker 1>I want to be very clear out of the gate here.

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:48.400
<v Speaker 1>I love the show. I love John, I love this script.

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:51.000
<v Speaker 1>I love this character. I would love to do it.

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:53.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm letting you know now I do not speak a

0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:56.560
<v Speaker 1>word of Spanish. And they're like, and they were like,

0:31:57.400 --> 0:31:59.000
<v Speaker 1>you should just see him looking at each other, and

0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:02.880
<v Speaker 1>they're like, no problem, No, it's just a little bit.

0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:07.640
<v Speaker 1>It's a little bit. Don't even worry about it. Maybe

0:32:07.640 --> 0:32:09.920
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't even the full interrogation scene that was in

0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 1>the first in the episode that I read, because I

0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:14.960
<v Speaker 1>remember it being more later and I was just like, guys,

0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:17.719
<v Speaker 1>like I told you, and they're like, no, no, no,

0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:19.720
<v Speaker 1>it's not a problem at all. So having to learn

0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:25.640
<v Speaker 1>Spanish for that was was incredible. Obviously I've done more

0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:28.560
<v Speaker 1>difficult things acting, but I just remember it's just so

0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:31.280
<v Speaker 1>funny because I was like, it was really hard because

0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:33.960
<v Speaker 1>you had to first you had to memorize it, and

0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:36.760
<v Speaker 1>that's one I'm not very good at memorizing. Funny enough

0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:40.560
<v Speaker 1>being okay, but you had to memorize it in English

0:32:40.560 --> 0:32:43.280
<v Speaker 1>first so that you understood what you were saying.

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:44.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:32:44.280 --> 0:32:47.400
<v Speaker 1>Then you had to go and memorize. Then you had

0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:49.800
<v Speaker 1>to match all your words in Spanish so you knew

0:32:49.800 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 1>what you were saying and where to put the inflection

0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:54.720
<v Speaker 1>on words and whatnot. Like it would be like you

0:32:54.880 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 1>learning Russian and having to make it make sense. I

0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:00.640
<v Speaker 1>know it doesn't sound as like the same thing, but

0:33:00.880 --> 0:33:04.280
<v Speaker 1>it's I know nothing I know Spanish. I mean, the

0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 1>four or five words you learn waiting tables, most of

0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:13.640
<v Speaker 1>them bad and bad words. My character didn't say any

0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:18.480
<v Speaker 1>of those. Yeah, So that was one of the more

0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:19.240
<v Speaker 1>difficult things.

0:33:33.960 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 2>The adjustment Bureau is one of my favorite movies, and

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:41.640
<v Speaker 2>it's just cool. It's so cool and conceptually and everyone's

0:33:41.640 --> 0:33:44.400
<v Speaker 2>great in it, including you. And that was sort of

0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:48.000
<v Speaker 2>a Doug Stamper character, sort of a man behind him.

0:33:48.040 --> 0:33:51.640
<v Speaker 1>Man. Yeah, he was exactly he was. He was his

0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:56.440
<v Speaker 1>uh like handler, he was yeah, like a chief yah,

0:33:56.520 --> 0:33:59.440
<v Speaker 1>fixer and best friend yeah and best friend.

0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:02.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, what a cool project?

0:34:02.200 --> 0:34:04.880
<v Speaker 2>Did it look as cool when you got the script

0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:08.319
<v Speaker 2>as it ended up being when we all saw it?

0:34:08.320 --> 0:34:12.239
<v Speaker 1>It got cooler actually, Like you know, you because when

0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:13.920
<v Speaker 1>you're reading it, you're like, okay, and they go through

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 1>this door and then you then there's.

0:34:15.320 --> 0:34:18.560
<v Speaker 3>This you know, yeah, the hat. So yeah, it's it's.

0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:21.680
<v Speaker 1>What you're it's what your mind is capable of trying

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:23.240
<v Speaker 1>to trying to imagine.

0:34:22.840 --> 0:34:23.600
<v Speaker 3>Right, right.

0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:26.080
<v Speaker 1>But then when you see what they did and you

0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:28.440
<v Speaker 1>know the DP and how he did it, and it

0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:31.239
<v Speaker 1>was just like, oh shit, you're making it. Because you know,

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:32.920
<v Speaker 1>I didn't do a lot of the door jumping and

0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:35.280
<v Speaker 1>all that kind of stuff. I think, yeah, they froze

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:39.080
<v Speaker 1>me at some point in time. They did, but it

0:34:39.160 --> 0:34:41.719
<v Speaker 1>was you know, for me, I was like, oh, man,

0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:44.279
<v Speaker 1>Matt Damon and Emily Blunt you know this is this

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:49.319
<v Speaker 1>is yeah, crazy crazy, like what an opportunity. And and

0:34:49.360 --> 0:34:52.280
<v Speaker 1>now Matt Emily we're all good friends, like it's it's wild.

0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:54.600
<v Speaker 1>He was, you know, a couple of blocks from hither.

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:56.319
<v Speaker 1>He has a fris a couple of blocks from me here,

0:34:56.680 --> 0:35:00.319
<v Speaker 1>so it's uh and John, We're all just for all

0:35:00.320 --> 0:35:04.200
<v Speaker 1>his buddies, you know. The John thing though. When I

0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:07.960
<v Speaker 1>went to the kickoff party for Adjustment Bureau, John and

0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Emiley were playing darts and drinking beers and I was like, oh,

0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:13.760
<v Speaker 1>those guys look like fun. I went by myself with

0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:15.640
<v Speaker 1>with a hole in the back of my head from

0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:19.040
<v Speaker 1>where I cut my own hair and shaved a big patch,

0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:22.560
<v Speaker 1>and they and my wife's like, you're going to the party.

0:35:22.600 --> 0:35:23.920
<v Speaker 1>I was like, no, I look an ass on. And

0:35:24.120 --> 0:35:25.320
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm gonna wear a hat and she's like,

0:35:25.360 --> 0:35:27.759
<v Speaker 1>don't wear a hat, just just own it. You'd be

0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:31.160
<v Speaker 1>better off. And yeah, so I go, I see John Iman,

0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:32.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm I gonna go hang out with those guys because

0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:35.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm all self conscious and nervous and I don't know anyone,

0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:38.040
<v Speaker 1>and so I went over to them and I was like, hey, man,

0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:40.200
<v Speaker 1>you you guys mind if I join you, and they're like, oh, yeah,

0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:42.360
<v Speaker 1>come on, and I was like, oh, I'm playing Bubba

0:35:42.400 --> 0:35:45.960
<v Speaker 1>and they're like oh cool and uh. And then so

0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:48.600
<v Speaker 1>we're with my turn to throw the darts. I throw

0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:50.839
<v Speaker 1>the darts and then I'm like, shit, I gotta get

0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:52.319
<v Speaker 1>the darts. And I was like, look before I went,

0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:55.680
<v Speaker 1>I got, I got. I just cut my own hair,

0:35:56.160 --> 0:35:58.440
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, oh, I needn't worry about it, over silly.

0:35:58.560 --> 0:36:00.800
<v Speaker 1>And meanwhile, I know that two of them and they're

0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:03.359
<v Speaker 1>wicked senses of humor. The second I walked up there

0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:06.239
<v Speaker 1>like oh my god, covering their faces when I'm walking back,

0:36:06.280 --> 0:36:08.920
<v Speaker 1>you know. So it's like, like, you cut your own hair.

0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:15.400
<v Speaker 1>I was like, guy, do uh because typically i'm or

0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:17.160
<v Speaker 1>most of the time i'm working and someone else is

0:36:17.160 --> 0:36:19.160
<v Speaker 1>cutting my hair. So I don't like have a barber,

0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:21.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't. I just let it go and

0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:24.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, got like shit. So then I started learning

0:36:24.600 --> 0:36:26.520
<v Speaker 1>how to just clip it myself. Kind of. I wish

0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:30.560
<v Speaker 1>i'd a a flow beat or whatever. I just used clippers,

0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:32.440
<v Speaker 1>and when I was using the clipper, the guard just

0:36:32.480 --> 0:36:34.440
<v Speaker 1>popped off and it went and I was like.

0:36:34.440 --> 0:36:40.640
<v Speaker 3>Oh fuck, oh no, too good.

0:36:42.080 --> 0:36:43.880
<v Speaker 1>But then but so that's when when they came to

0:36:43.920 --> 0:36:45.719
<v Speaker 1>me for Jack Ryan. I just remember I was like,

0:36:45.719 --> 0:36:48.319
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, you had to spend time with that dude,

0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:50.080
<v Speaker 1>are you kidding me? Yeah, at the time of my

0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:52.959
<v Speaker 1>life with them that night. So yeah, that's great.

0:36:55.120 --> 0:36:57.120
<v Speaker 2>When does baseball enter your consciousness?

0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:02.240
<v Speaker 1>Be easier to answer when it leaves you means as growing.

0:37:03.600 --> 0:37:04.720
<v Speaker 1>I thought you met like daily.

0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:08.600
<v Speaker 3>Now like, when does it first enter your consciousness?

0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:14.760
<v Speaker 1>I think, like, you know, I don't remember how old

0:37:14.800 --> 0:37:17.120
<v Speaker 1>I was when I tried out for a team and

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:20.120
<v Speaker 1>I was I remember kicking rocks in the outfield where

0:37:20.120 --> 0:37:21.759
<v Speaker 1>they just like stick him out there, They're never going

0:37:21.800 --> 0:37:23.800
<v Speaker 1>to hit him, and I didn't and I never played,

0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:28.600
<v Speaker 1>but so it was probably like i'd say, I was

0:37:28.640 --> 0:37:32.440
<v Speaker 1>about fourteen fifteen years old when I was working for

0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:37.719
<v Speaker 1>my brother's now father in law, Mark Epstein, who was

0:37:37.760 --> 0:37:40.279
<v Speaker 1>a builder. I worked for him in the summers. I

0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:42.360
<v Speaker 1>worked for him all year round doing stuff around his

0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:44.759
<v Speaker 1>house and then but he gave me tickets to a

0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:49.080
<v Speaker 1>raise game once and I remember going. And then it

0:37:49.120 --> 0:37:51.400
<v Speaker 1>was shortly after that that I discovered that Dale Murphy

0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:56.400
<v Speaker 1>was our neighbor. And then I met Dale and he

0:37:56.480 --> 0:37:58.160
<v Speaker 1>was only our neighbor for a year. Once he got

0:37:58.160 --> 0:37:58.880
<v Speaker 1>his contract, he was.

0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:00.760
<v Speaker 3>Okay at the big contract.

0:38:00.800 --> 0:38:02.560
<v Speaker 1>He's like, I'm going to a nice neighborhood. So he

0:38:02.640 --> 0:38:04.359
<v Speaker 1>has got now Dale and I are friends, so it's

0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:07.640
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's fantastic. But it was around that age

0:38:07.800 --> 0:38:10.200
<v Speaker 1>and uh and it was the Land and Braves and

0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:12.480
<v Speaker 1>that's my team and it's always always been.

0:38:12.640 --> 0:38:16.560
<v Speaker 2>I know, I'm a I'm a Met fans for rivals, but.

0:38:16.920 --> 0:38:18.640
<v Speaker 1>Good good, good year for you guys.

0:38:18.640 --> 0:38:20.399
<v Speaker 3>I mean, yeah, this is.

0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:25.080
<v Speaker 2>You know, I was just thinking back though, like the

0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:28.359
<v Speaker 2>late nineties we had the Mets. I don't know if

0:38:28.360 --> 0:38:31.240
<v Speaker 2>you remember, like nineteen ninety nine Sports illustrated the best

0:38:31.320 --> 0:38:34.799
<v Speaker 2>in field ever. We had Robin Ventura, Mike Piazza, John

0:38:34.880 --> 0:38:38.800
<v Speaker 2>olrud and Gardola, Fonso Rare, Doniez. And at the same time,

0:38:39.680 --> 0:38:43.480
<v Speaker 2>you guys have the best pitching staff of all time.

0:38:43.520 --> 0:38:48.440
<v Speaker 2>You have Maddox, Glavin, Smoltz, Rocker. I mean, what is awesome?

0:38:48.880 --> 0:38:52.040
<v Speaker 1>Everyone forgets Avery. Avery was such a rae. You know,

0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:56.000
<v Speaker 1>everyone says Glavin Maddox smalls Avery was That's right.

0:38:56.239 --> 0:38:59.279
<v Speaker 3>It was amazing, and of course we called him Larry.

0:38:59.400 --> 0:39:04.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but like what an awesome era the late nineties

0:39:05.160 --> 0:39:07.720
<v Speaker 2>with Mets braves like that was just so fun.

0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:12.399
<v Speaker 1>Incredible, incredible, man like just incredible and and and look

0:39:12.680 --> 0:39:14.560
<v Speaker 1>you know they are with their their rivalries and the

0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Phillies now, like we we all hate each other, but

0:39:16.719 --> 0:39:19.279
<v Speaker 1>we love each other. Like it's you know, it's I

0:39:19.320 --> 0:39:21.759
<v Speaker 1>think people love Chipper Jones. They hated him, but they

0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:24.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, yeah, you don't respect someone like that, right,

0:39:24.880 --> 0:39:27.479
<v Speaker 1>you respect him? Like like Bryce Harper. He gets booed

0:39:27.520 --> 0:39:29.759
<v Speaker 1>every time he comes to Atlanta. But you'd be hard

0:39:29.760 --> 0:39:32.640
<v Speaker 1>pressed to find someone that hates Bryce Harper, Like, yeah,

0:39:32.920 --> 0:39:36.439
<v Speaker 1>great baseball player, and he plays the game hard as hell.

0:39:36.640 --> 0:39:40.160
<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, I hate the Mets, but I love Francisco Lindora.

0:39:40.239 --> 0:39:42.920
<v Speaker 1>I love you know, I love Yeah. I don't like

0:39:43.000 --> 0:39:44.719
<v Speaker 1>Pete A. Lonzo. I don't like I think it's take.

0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:47.440
<v Speaker 1>I think he does everything too serious, you know, I

0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:50.279
<v Speaker 1>think he just there's like, have a little fun, kid,

0:39:50.600 --> 0:39:53.160
<v Speaker 1>You're getting to play a game for a lot of money,

0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:55.680
<v Speaker 1>for a living. Have some fun. The home run derby

0:39:55.920 --> 0:39:58.759
<v Speaker 1>is a fun contest. It is not a stress. You know,

0:39:58.920 --> 0:40:01.120
<v Speaker 1>you don't have to get all crazy anyway. That's my

0:40:01.520 --> 0:40:06.480
<v Speaker 1>that's my team. Team Oh my god, the time of

0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:09.800
<v Speaker 1>my life. That's why I have this mustache right now. Well,

0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:12.759
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you why I kept it. But I got

0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:16.920
<v Speaker 1>to play in the celebrity softball game. It was at

0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:21.000
<v Speaker 1>my field. I stood at home plate and got a

0:40:21.120 --> 0:40:24.520
<v Speaker 1>hit at Truest Park, and I swear to god, I

0:40:24.600 --> 0:40:26.520
<v Speaker 1>was a ten year old kid like I was like,

0:40:27.320 --> 0:40:30.560
<v Speaker 1>this is the greatest, one of the greatest things I've

0:40:30.600 --> 0:40:31.920
<v Speaker 1>ever and I got to do it all with my

0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:34.799
<v Speaker 1>son that weekend. So if you play in that, if

0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:37.920
<v Speaker 1>you play in that game, then they give you tickets

0:40:37.960 --> 0:40:40.040
<v Speaker 1>to everything. So you're at the home run derby and

0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:42.279
<v Speaker 1>you're in a suite and you're at the you're at

0:40:42.280 --> 0:40:45.239
<v Speaker 1>the All Star Game, and you can do anything you

0:40:45.360 --> 0:40:48.759
<v Speaker 1>want in It's like amazing because so there there we

0:40:48.760 --> 0:40:50.880
<v Speaker 1>were the night of the All Star Game and we

0:40:51.000 --> 0:40:54.560
<v Speaker 1>go up to the suite and it's my mother, my

0:40:54.560 --> 0:40:59.560
<v Speaker 1>brother in law, my son, myself, and there's Gary Sheffield

0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:04.239
<v Speaker 1>and Paid Martinez and uh and Ryan Howard and I

0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:07.200
<v Speaker 1>was just like, oh my god. And Sheffield comes over

0:41:07.200 --> 0:41:08.800
<v Speaker 1>and a couple of guys recognized me. So then we

0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:10.720
<v Speaker 1>all kind of get to know each other. And Pedro

0:41:11.200 --> 0:41:13.000
<v Speaker 1>was a big fan, and I was like, dude, And

0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:17.799
<v Speaker 1>again there's a great example of always love Pedro Martinez. Always. Yeah,

0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:19.440
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter if you're a brave fan or not.

0:41:19.880 --> 0:41:24.080
<v Speaker 1>You recognize the greatest and you appreciate them, right. And

0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:27.200
<v Speaker 1>so Sheffield's like show me your swing, kid to Clint

0:41:27.600 --> 0:41:29.480
<v Speaker 1>to my boy and he was like what He's like

0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:31.640
<v Speaker 1>going on, let me see your swing, And so I'm like,

0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:33.239
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I just step back. I get my

0:41:33.239 --> 0:41:36.360
<v Speaker 1>phone out. I'm like video and my son getting batting

0:41:36.440 --> 0:41:39.960
<v Speaker 1>lessons from Gary Sheffield, and I'm like this is and

0:41:40.080 --> 0:41:41.960
<v Speaker 1>every night my son and I just get into bed

0:41:42.000 --> 0:41:46.160
<v Speaker 1>and laughing, are just like I can't believe this. Like

0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:49.960
<v Speaker 1>he was so appreciative too, and it was just one

0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:51.719
<v Speaker 1>of those moments to share with your son. It was

0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:54.600
<v Speaker 1>like just magical man magic.

0:41:55.239 --> 0:41:59.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I feel like baseball is magical, and even

0:41:59.360 --> 0:42:03.000
<v Speaker 2>if you don't get that kind of magical experience, I

0:42:03.040 --> 0:42:05.040
<v Speaker 2>feel like it's every time I go into a stadium,

0:42:05.040 --> 0:42:07.720
<v Speaker 2>it's magical. It doesn't matter who I'm seeing. My husband's

0:42:07.719 --> 0:42:09.440
<v Speaker 2>a Red Sox fan. We're from Boston, so we go

0:42:09.480 --> 0:42:12.279
<v Speaker 2>to a lot of Sox games with my son and

0:42:12.360 --> 0:42:16.719
<v Speaker 2>it's just the most magical. It's religious for me, and

0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:20.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm not religious. It's the closest thing I know to religion.

0:42:20.239 --> 0:42:24.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it really is right like that, you step

0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:26.279
<v Speaker 1>into those parks and you feel it doesn't matter what

0:42:26.320 --> 0:42:29.520
<v Speaker 1>park either. Like I've been to many many parks, you know.

0:42:29.560 --> 0:42:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Wherever I am working, I'll try to go to the

0:42:31.440 --> 0:42:34.719
<v Speaker 1>ballpark there. Yeah, And it's just even if it's my

0:42:34.760 --> 0:42:38.000
<v Speaker 1>team or not. Like I'm like, it's baseball.

0:42:38.520 --> 0:42:39.240
<v Speaker 3>It's baseball.

0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:42.080
<v Speaker 1>In my opinion, it's the greatest game ever created. And

0:42:42.520 --> 0:42:47.239
<v Speaker 1>so watching my son play, I'm at every practice I'm

0:42:47.280 --> 0:42:50.120
<v Speaker 1>in town. I'm at every single practice for the whole practice.

0:42:50.160 --> 0:42:52.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm at every game. Yeah. Yeah, just yeah, I live

0:42:52.480 --> 0:42:53.520
<v Speaker 1>for it. Love it.

0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:56.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. My son plays too, and I love it also.

0:42:56.320 --> 0:42:57.680
<v Speaker 3>It's creating. It's incredible.

0:42:57.719 --> 0:43:03.160
<v Speaker 2>But I feel like there's two things baseball and Broadway.

0:43:03.920 --> 0:43:06.560
<v Speaker 2>I'll see anything on Broadway, and every time I'm there,

0:43:07.239 --> 0:43:09.160
<v Speaker 2>I will start crying during the overture.

0:43:09.400 --> 0:43:11.320
<v Speaker 3>No matter what. I don't have to know the show.

0:43:11.719 --> 0:43:12.240
<v Speaker 3>It's funny.

0:43:12.239 --> 0:43:14.000
<v Speaker 2>My mom and I just took my son to see

0:43:14.000 --> 0:43:19.480
<v Speaker 2>a regional production of Annie Regional and real Regional.

0:43:19.560 --> 0:43:23.280
<v Speaker 3>Okay, real regional, you know what that means yes, real regional.

0:43:23.400 --> 0:43:25.759
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, but can I tell you my mom and

0:43:25.800 --> 0:43:29.799
<v Speaker 2>I are both in tears at the overture. I just

0:43:30.520 --> 0:43:33.600
<v Speaker 2>I get overwhelmed and overcome in those two in those

0:43:33.640 --> 0:43:36.359
<v Speaker 2>two sacred spaces for me, Yeah, it doesn't matter what

0:43:36.360 --> 0:43:36.640
<v Speaker 2>it is.

0:43:36.680 --> 0:43:39.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm just happy to be there. And I just hope.

0:43:39.320 --> 0:43:42.520
<v Speaker 2>Everyone in their lives have has something like that, a

0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:45.759
<v Speaker 2>place like that, a sacred space where they feel like

0:43:45.800 --> 0:43:48.880
<v Speaker 2>a kid again, or they can just magically get overwhelmed

0:43:48.920 --> 0:43:53.080
<v Speaker 2>and everything else from the world, the anxiety, the news, whatever,

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:54.959
<v Speaker 2>disappears for an hour or two.

0:43:55.080 --> 0:43:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's so important. That's my daughter. She's so very young.

0:43:59.440 --> 0:44:02.680
<v Speaker 1>She was saying and carrying. Neither one of us sing,

0:44:03.680 --> 0:44:06.840
<v Speaker 1>but she could really sing. And then she was like, oh,

0:44:06.880 --> 0:44:09.480
<v Speaker 1>and then she saw Hamilton. We took her to see

0:44:09.520 --> 0:44:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Hamilton and the end of that first song when it's

0:44:13.120 --> 0:44:19.280
<v Speaker 1>like and she turned to me just like what did

0:44:19.400 --> 0:44:23.239
<v Speaker 1>I just see? And like and now she is full

0:44:23.280 --> 0:44:25.480
<v Speaker 1>on just got back from camp, like she's full on

0:44:25.560 --> 0:44:29.160
<v Speaker 1>musical theater and wants to be an actor. And you know,

0:44:29.200 --> 0:44:32.080
<v Speaker 1>she played She did get to play my daughter in

0:44:32.160 --> 0:44:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Lioness The Last Last for a couple episodes. Yes, but

0:44:37.160 --> 0:44:40.359
<v Speaker 1>she's like, no, I want to be a Broadway That's

0:44:40.480 --> 0:44:42.640
<v Speaker 1>what I want to do. So she's in she's going

0:44:42.640 --> 0:44:45.719
<v Speaker 1>into eleventh grade and that's so I'm very fortunate I

0:44:45.719 --> 0:44:50.120
<v Speaker 1>get both both my son plays. Basically, I'm like, I'll

0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:52.000
<v Speaker 1>go to anything everything.

0:44:52.280 --> 0:44:53.600
<v Speaker 3>So she just did.

0:44:53.760 --> 0:44:56.440
<v Speaker 1>And this ripped my heart out. And it's one of

0:44:56.480 --> 0:44:58.239
<v Speaker 1>the hardest things, you know, with what we do for

0:44:58.280 --> 0:45:01.279
<v Speaker 1>a living, and you miss things right. And we were

0:45:01.280 --> 0:45:03.759
<v Speaker 1>doing Jack Ryan and we were in Dubai and at

0:45:03.760 --> 0:45:06.799
<v Speaker 1>this point we're in London. Very early on, I was like,

0:45:07.560 --> 0:45:10.560
<v Speaker 1>I need these dates. Three days of performances. My daughter

0:45:10.640 --> 0:45:12.600
<v Speaker 1>was playing Doraley in nine to five and I was like,

0:45:12.680 --> 0:45:14.840
<v Speaker 1>I got to get on for it. And Alice, and

0:45:14.880 --> 0:45:16.799
<v Speaker 1>the producer is a dear friend of mine. She was like, dude,

0:45:16.880 --> 0:45:19.360
<v Speaker 1>we'll put you on a private if we have to.

0:45:20.239 --> 0:45:22.920
<v Speaker 1>And come to find out, we got screwed. It was

0:45:22.960 --> 0:45:25.600
<v Speaker 1>over a weekend where we had these locations. It was

0:45:25.680 --> 0:45:27.560
<v Speaker 1>the only look and it was a military base. It

0:45:27.640 --> 0:45:30.239
<v Speaker 1>was very hard to get. It wasn't just like you know,

0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:36.400
<v Speaker 1>a street corner and I missed it and it killed me,

0:45:36.719 --> 0:45:41.759
<v Speaker 1>like it killed me, like it just yep, you know,

0:45:41.960 --> 0:45:43.279
<v Speaker 1>And I got to see a tape. There was a

0:45:43.360 --> 0:45:46.040
<v Speaker 1>video of it, and Karen Snack, you know, she she

0:45:46.120 --> 0:45:48.400
<v Speaker 1>went all three performances. So I was like, just the

0:45:48.440 --> 0:45:50.239
<v Speaker 1>first night, I was like, just enjoy the first night.

0:45:50.360 --> 0:45:54.480
<v Speaker 1>The second night, sneak me some VIDs. Yeah, right, give

0:45:54.520 --> 0:45:56.319
<v Speaker 1>me some good quality because I know what I know.

0:45:56.360 --> 0:45:58.640
<v Speaker 1>The other one's gonna be the big wide performance. But

0:45:58.680 --> 0:46:00.279
<v Speaker 1>I got to see it. I get to feel and

0:46:00.960 --> 0:46:04.600
<v Speaker 1>my wife's videos were actually fantastic, and so I did

0:46:04.640 --> 0:46:06.359
<v Speaker 1>feel like I was and I talked to her after

0:46:06.400 --> 0:46:09.799
<v Speaker 1>every performance and whatnot. But it's one of the things

0:46:09.800 --> 0:46:11.600
<v Speaker 1>that sucks about what we do for a living. It's

0:46:11.680 --> 0:46:15.919
<v Speaker 1>it's very there's no you know, there's no weekends off

0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:17.080
<v Speaker 1>always you know, I.

0:46:17.000 --> 0:46:20.120
<v Speaker 2>Do know, and it's Yeah, I was talking to my

0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:23.520
<v Speaker 2>son about this. He's ten, and listen, I've been lucky.

0:46:23.560 --> 0:46:25.600
<v Speaker 2>I've been around a lot. I you know, I do

0:46:25.680 --> 0:46:29.279
<v Speaker 2>a lot of work from home, and but you know,

0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:35.000
<v Speaker 2>every four years, mom's work goes into hyperdrive, right, And

0:46:35.360 --> 0:46:38.560
<v Speaker 2>it's so crazy because last year, last year, I spent

0:46:39.320 --> 0:46:42.959
<v Speaker 2>six months in Philadelphia covering the election in a swing state,

0:46:43.000 --> 0:46:45.319
<v Speaker 2>and so I was like back and forth. Wow, you know,

0:46:46.160 --> 0:46:51.480
<v Speaker 2>a week in Philly weekends home, and I remember toward

0:46:51.560 --> 0:46:54.840
<v Speaker 2>the end of the year, someone was asking him. I

0:46:54.920 --> 0:46:56.560
<v Speaker 2>was there and someone was like, so, you know, how

0:46:56.760 --> 0:46:58.600
<v Speaker 2>what kind of vacations did you go on this year?

0:46:58.600 --> 0:47:00.279
<v Speaker 2>And he goes, not many, because you know, it's an

0:47:00.320 --> 0:47:03.120
<v Speaker 2>election year, and that's just the how it goes. I'm like,

0:47:03.160 --> 0:47:06.080
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, I cannot believe this is like just

0:47:06.200 --> 0:47:09.319
<v Speaker 2>his life now. And then he was like, but next year,

0:47:09.400 --> 0:47:11.080
<v Speaker 2>next year, twenty twenty five won't be as bad.

0:47:11.120 --> 0:47:12.600
<v Speaker 3>You know, we'll have a lot more vacation time.

0:47:12.680 --> 0:47:15.160
<v Speaker 2>And now I just got this new show covering the

0:47:15.200 --> 0:47:17.760
<v Speaker 2>New York City mayoral election, so it is an election

0:47:17.880 --> 0:47:21.520
<v Speaker 2>year again for me. And he's like, Mom, you don't

0:47:21.600 --> 0:47:23.200
<v Speaker 2>need this many jobs, and.

0:47:24.800 --> 0:47:27.000
<v Speaker 3>It's so hard, but you know what this is like.

0:47:27.040 --> 0:47:29.239
<v Speaker 2>And I try to tell him, Hey, you don't know

0:47:29.280 --> 0:47:35.439
<v Speaker 2>my finances. B you know, mom likes working and mom

0:47:35.480 --> 0:47:37.719
<v Speaker 2>doesn't like being away from you. That's not the part

0:47:37.719 --> 0:47:40.439
<v Speaker 2>I like at all. But I love my work and

0:47:40.520 --> 0:47:41.480
<v Speaker 2>I want him to know.

0:47:41.560 --> 0:47:43.400
<v Speaker 3>For you need it, for you, Yeah.

0:47:43.560 --> 0:47:47.200
<v Speaker 2>It makes me a better mom, yeah, and a better person.

0:47:48.000 --> 0:47:50.720
<v Speaker 2>It's good for my mental health to work. But also

0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:52.719
<v Speaker 2>I want you to I want you to know that

0:47:52.800 --> 0:47:55.279
<v Speaker 2>I love what I do, so that you go and

0:47:55.360 --> 0:47:58.440
<v Speaker 2>chase something that you love and don't just feel like,

0:47:58.480 --> 0:47:59.800
<v Speaker 2>oh I just need the paycheck.

0:48:00.280 --> 0:48:01.719
<v Speaker 3>I want them to know and see.

0:48:01.480 --> 0:48:03.839
<v Speaker 2>That that's like the only silver lining of how much

0:48:04.200 --> 0:48:05.800
<v Speaker 2>it sucks when I have to be away.

0:48:06.320 --> 0:48:09.879
<v Speaker 1>Yep, my kids know that. I can't say it enough.

0:48:09.920 --> 0:48:11.520
<v Speaker 1>If you love what you do, you'll never work a

0:48:11.560 --> 0:48:14.280
<v Speaker 1>day in your life. Once I started making a living,

0:48:14.880 --> 0:48:18.080
<v Speaker 1>I've never once said I have to go to work tomorrow.

0:48:18.640 --> 0:48:19.840
<v Speaker 1>I get to work tomorrow.

0:48:20.000 --> 0:48:20.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I get.

0:48:20.480 --> 0:48:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I fucking love what I do. Yeah, And when

0:48:24.040 --> 0:48:27.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't do it for a while, I get it's

0:48:27.520 --> 0:48:29.520
<v Speaker 1>not good for me. It's not good for my head,

0:48:29.600 --> 0:48:32.160
<v Speaker 1>it's not good for my well being. Like I can,

0:48:32.760 --> 0:48:34.120
<v Speaker 1>I can work out, and I can do all this

0:48:34.160 --> 0:48:37.959
<v Speaker 1>stuff for the family. But I realized that I need

0:48:37.960 --> 0:48:40.959
<v Speaker 1>it to fulfill me as a person in some way,

0:48:41.239 --> 0:48:43.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, it makes me me.

0:48:44.360 --> 0:48:46.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So s they'll understand that.

0:48:46.640 --> 0:48:49.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think they will when they find a thing

0:48:49.239 --> 0:48:51.239
<v Speaker 1>in life, you know, and they're like, oh, exactly right,

0:48:51.320 --> 0:48:52.480
<v Speaker 1>I get it. I get it.

0:49:08.000 --> 0:49:14.200
<v Speaker 3>You mentioned lionis is that going to get a first season? Okay,

0:49:14.360 --> 0:49:17.520
<v Speaker 3>maybe it looks.

0:49:17.400 --> 0:49:20.879
<v Speaker 1>It looks it looks very promising right now. Yeah, yeah,

0:49:21.000 --> 0:49:24.040
<v Speaker 1>and I I couldn't be any happier about.

0:49:23.760 --> 0:49:26.480
<v Speaker 3>That, Like that's my husband loves that show. My husband

0:49:26.520 --> 0:49:27.239
<v Speaker 3>watches that show.

0:49:27.400 --> 0:49:30.400
<v Speaker 1>So Karen and I love it. We love watching it together.

0:49:30.520 --> 0:49:34.560
<v Speaker 1>Like it's I tell people, I'm like, it's not because

0:49:34.600 --> 0:49:36.200
<v Speaker 1>a minute, man, like, watch this show.

0:49:36.239 --> 0:49:37.120
<v Speaker 3>It's it's really good.

0:49:38.880 --> 0:49:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Taylor Sheridan knows how to create drama, man, Like apparently, yeah,

0:49:43.760 --> 0:49:49.239
<v Speaker 1>I wanted dude, man, he wrote them all like that's crazy, crazy, crazy,

0:49:49.800 --> 0:49:52.040
<v Speaker 1>He's so good and it's and and get to get

0:49:52.080 --> 0:49:55.400
<v Speaker 1>to work with those women on a daily basis. And

0:49:55.480 --> 0:50:00.480
<v Speaker 1>Morgan Freeman, I mean, are you shitting me? It's that

0:50:00.600 --> 0:50:03.080
<v Speaker 1>first time that I sat in that conference room, you know,

0:50:03.160 --> 0:50:05.960
<v Speaker 1>and Jenniferly and Bruce McGill and I sat down at

0:50:06.000 --> 0:50:10.040
<v Speaker 1>that table and I was just like, holy Ship, Academy,

0:50:10.120 --> 0:50:12.800
<v Speaker 1>warg Academy, Ward, Academy, word, God knows Accounts, Awards and

0:50:12.840 --> 0:50:15.279
<v Speaker 1>that nominations in that room and I was just like

0:50:15.920 --> 0:50:18.600
<v Speaker 1>and then you just you know, some of those scenes

0:50:18.600 --> 0:50:21.399
<v Speaker 1>are nine pages long, so it's like little one one

0:50:21.440 --> 0:50:24.719
<v Speaker 1>act plays because they'll run them straight through and we'll

0:50:24.719 --> 0:50:26.359
<v Speaker 1>just do them over and over and it's just like

0:50:27.440 --> 0:50:29.920
<v Speaker 1>to watch the Volley and the you know, it's just

0:50:30.760 --> 0:50:34.040
<v Speaker 1>that that's that's a high. Being an aver room hard.

0:50:34.640 --> 0:50:37.240
<v Speaker 1>It's hard as ship to get all that to memory,

0:50:38.560 --> 0:50:41.359
<v Speaker 1>especially for me to memorize all that to make it

0:50:41.719 --> 0:50:43.959
<v Speaker 1>so that I can make it make sense too, because

0:50:44.000 --> 0:50:47.360
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of it is very complicated, and with

0:50:47.400 --> 0:50:49.680
<v Speaker 1>all the political stuff I've done a lot of it's

0:50:49.680 --> 0:50:51.720
<v Speaker 1>a foreign language to a certain extent.

0:50:51.920 --> 0:50:54.839
<v Speaker 3>So well, at least at least it's English.

0:50:55.040 --> 0:51:00.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah exactly, yep, Yeah, that show.

0:51:00.719 --> 0:51:01.600
<v Speaker 3>I just I love it.

0:51:01.680 --> 0:51:03.840
<v Speaker 1>I love love love it. Yeah.

0:51:03.920 --> 0:51:08.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, I hope it gets another another season. Okay, it's

0:51:08.160 --> 0:51:09.880
<v Speaker 2>time for a lightning round.

0:51:09.960 --> 0:51:10.319
<v Speaker 1>All right.

0:51:16.920 --> 0:51:19.480
<v Speaker 2>Who's the real person you'd like to play in a

0:51:19.520 --> 0:51:24.239
<v Speaker 2>film or television series? Burt Reynolds, Ah, listen with that

0:51:24.400 --> 0:51:31.520
<v Speaker 2>stash Man, you are halfway there? Why can I ask why?

0:51:32.280 --> 0:51:35.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know? I mean Georgia connection, and you know,

0:51:35.400 --> 0:51:40.560
<v Speaker 1>I just I always thought, uh, before I wanted to

0:51:40.560 --> 0:51:42.400
<v Speaker 1>be an actor, there was something about Burt Brynholds and

0:51:42.440 --> 0:51:45.200
<v Speaker 1>all those movies and from Smoking the Bandit the Cannonball

0:51:45.280 --> 0:51:47.799
<v Speaker 1>Run to Hooper. You know, I would love to do

0:51:47.840 --> 0:51:51.719
<v Speaker 1>Hooper play that character or I don't if you remember,

0:51:51.719 --> 0:51:53.359
<v Speaker 1>he was a stunt man. He was hooked on pain

0:51:53.480 --> 0:51:57.279
<v Speaker 1>pills and just got to be really really cool to

0:51:57.400 --> 0:52:02.600
<v Speaker 1>redo that lightly less McColl uh huh uh huh yeah,

0:52:02.640 --> 0:52:06.520
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, yeah, and an aging stun man. I'm kind

0:52:06.520 --> 0:52:09.920
<v Speaker 1>of aging. I'm kind of prime. Bert was much younger

0:52:09.920 --> 0:52:11.080
<v Speaker 1>when he played it, But I think it can work

0:52:11.160 --> 0:52:11.759
<v Speaker 1>right now for me.

0:52:12.080 --> 0:52:12.560
<v Speaker 3>It's great.

0:52:12.680 --> 0:52:14.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I just always there's something about the dude.

0:52:14.680 --> 0:52:16.120
<v Speaker 1>I just thought he was so cool. You see. It's

0:52:16.200 --> 0:52:18.439
<v Speaker 1>such a wicked sense of humor too.

0:52:18.560 --> 0:52:18.880
<v Speaker 3>Bert.

0:52:18.960 --> 0:52:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Did you watch all that fun stuff that he and

0:52:22.000 --> 0:52:25.359
<v Speaker 1>Johnny Carson did back in the day, right, And that

0:52:25.400 --> 0:52:27.880
<v Speaker 1>guy was just fun. Man, he was just fun.

0:52:28.120 --> 0:52:30.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay, what's the best movie about politics?

0:52:31.080 --> 0:52:35.040
<v Speaker 1>Uh? What do you call it? With Robert Ridford and

0:52:35.560 --> 0:52:37.799
<v Speaker 1>presents Man? Yeah, that's my favorite.

0:52:38.280 --> 0:52:39.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, classic.

0:52:40.080 --> 0:52:41.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean yeah, just so.

0:52:41.880 --> 0:52:45.080
<v Speaker 2>That's most people's like top of the Cannon. Yeah, you know,

0:52:45.200 --> 0:52:46.400
<v Speaker 2>did you ever see the Contender?

0:52:46.800 --> 0:52:47.760
<v Speaker 1>Was that Russell Krusch?

0:52:48.040 --> 0:52:52.040
<v Speaker 2>No, that's the insider. The contender is Jeff Bridges plays

0:52:52.040 --> 0:52:56.760
<v Speaker 2>the president. Joan Allen is vying to be the vice president,

0:52:57.520 --> 0:52:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Christian Slater, Gary Oldman, Oh my.

0:53:00.080 --> 0:53:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know. You've got to see You've got

0:53:02.600 --> 0:53:03.960
<v Speaker 1>to see myself right now?

0:53:04.760 --> 0:53:08.160
<v Speaker 3>So good? What's the best baseball movie?

0:53:08.680 --> 0:53:12.480
<v Speaker 1>All square? Now, I'm kidding, I get that one did exactly.

0:53:12.560 --> 0:53:13.359
<v Speaker 1>It's a movie I did.

0:53:13.480 --> 0:53:13.719
<v Speaker 2>I know.

0:53:14.000 --> 0:53:15.120
<v Speaker 3>I looked that movie up.

0:53:16.920 --> 0:53:19.279
<v Speaker 1>It actually is a really fun little indie that we

0:53:19.360 --> 0:53:21.920
<v Speaker 1>did for a you know, a million bucks. A car

0:53:22.000 --> 0:53:25.280
<v Speaker 1>screw to make it with me and uh and jumped

0:53:25.320 --> 0:53:27.400
<v Speaker 1>on board. We made not even a million bucks like

0:53:27.440 --> 0:53:29.560
<v Speaker 1>seven and fifty. But it's actually a fun movie. It

0:53:29.640 --> 0:53:36.040
<v Speaker 1>is not my favorite. It's a tough one because you

0:53:36.120 --> 0:53:39.799
<v Speaker 1>got you know, good ones. I love Bad News Bears,

0:53:39.840 --> 0:53:43.080
<v Speaker 1>but I think Major League is also wow. And then

0:53:43.880 --> 0:53:47.839
<v Speaker 1>the female one, uh oh, A league of their own,

0:53:48.120 --> 0:53:49.719
<v Speaker 1>a league of their own. But you know what, I

0:53:49.800 --> 0:53:53.160
<v Speaker 1>just watched Funny just Is and I really loved it.

0:53:53.200 --> 0:53:55.680
<v Speaker 1>And it's one that not many people or maybe people

0:53:55.800 --> 0:53:58.080
<v Speaker 1>know about. But it's I think I've seen every baseball more.

0:53:58.080 --> 0:53:59.560
<v Speaker 1>I thought I did a little big league. Have you

0:53:59.600 --> 0:54:00.000
<v Speaker 1>seen that one?

0:54:01.239 --> 0:54:02.200
<v Speaker 3>A little big league?

0:54:02.239 --> 0:54:05.319
<v Speaker 1>No, little big league? It was really good. It's this kid.

0:54:06.320 --> 0:54:09.400
<v Speaker 1>The grandfather gives him the baseball team. Okay, he's got

0:54:09.400 --> 0:54:12.680
<v Speaker 1>a bright baseball mind, and he dies the grandfather. They

0:54:12.680 --> 0:54:15.560
<v Speaker 1>have a relationship in the movie. Grandfather dies in his will.

0:54:15.680 --> 0:54:17.919
<v Speaker 1>The kids like, what, I have a baseball team.

0:54:18.040 --> 0:54:19.080
<v Speaker 3>I'll have to check that out.

0:54:19.320 --> 0:54:21.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a really fun one yourself.

0:54:21.160 --> 0:54:24.839
<v Speaker 2>Watch with my son. Oh great for yours. I think

0:54:24.840 --> 0:54:30.080
<v Speaker 2>it's Bullderham. Oh yeah, yeah, it's so good, just like

0:54:30.200 --> 0:54:33.879
<v Speaker 2>both of their like all three of them, their monologues like, yeah,

0:54:33.960 --> 0:54:37.360
<v Speaker 2>Kevin's Tim Susan's like they're all so good.

0:54:38.080 --> 0:54:40.160
<v Speaker 1>And then and and you have all that talent in

0:54:40.200 --> 0:54:42.080
<v Speaker 1>that movie too, I mean all the talent those are

0:54:42.120 --> 0:54:43.600
<v Speaker 1>the three actors. Like that's insane.

0:54:43.800 --> 0:54:46.720
<v Speaker 2>It's insane, and like the Roman, it captures the romance

0:54:46.760 --> 0:54:47.360
<v Speaker 2>of baseball.

0:54:48.600 --> 0:54:52.319
<v Speaker 3>So so yeah, that's a good one. What was what

0:54:52.360 --> 0:54:53.280
<v Speaker 3>was your worst vacation?

0:54:54.760 --> 0:54:57.760
<v Speaker 1>They're vacations, and I don't think I've had one. Actually

0:54:57.840 --> 0:55:00.239
<v Speaker 1>there was one where where but but but again, and

0:55:00.239 --> 0:55:02.560
<v Speaker 1>we were with the family, so it wasn't that bad

0:55:02.800 --> 0:55:05.359
<v Speaker 1>my family. Yeah, but my wife had to go down

0:55:05.400 --> 0:55:08.600
<v Speaker 1>a few days early because I was working. I met

0:55:08.600 --> 0:55:12.080
<v Speaker 1>them there, but we went down to Florida. Forget the

0:55:12.160 --> 0:55:15.399
<v Speaker 1>name of this place, but it's everyone gets like their

0:55:15.440 --> 0:55:18.959
<v Speaker 1>own massive home and it could sleep twenty something people.

0:55:19.560 --> 0:55:21.600
<v Speaker 1>One of those things had its own pool and everything.

0:55:22.880 --> 0:55:26.400
<v Speaker 1>It rained, oh for seven straight days. And I'm not

0:55:26.440 --> 0:55:29.759
<v Speaker 1>saying just like, oh it rain. It Florida rained, yep

0:55:30.200 --> 0:55:35.480
<v Speaker 1>from start to fucking finish every single day we were there,

0:55:35.480 --> 0:55:37.719
<v Speaker 1>and we're just like, so it was great. We were

0:55:37.760 --> 0:55:39.400
<v Speaker 1>with our family, you know, so it wasn't terrible, but

0:55:39.440 --> 0:55:41.600
<v Speaker 1>it was like are you kidding right? Like every day

0:55:41.600 --> 0:55:42.680
<v Speaker 1>we'd be like, are.

0:55:42.600 --> 0:55:43.960
<v Speaker 3>You sitting still going?

0:55:44.200 --> 0:55:46.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, my son was a baby, my son was like

0:55:47.239 --> 0:55:49.239
<v Speaker 1>and my poor wife had to go down without me.

0:55:49.520 --> 0:55:52.720
<v Speaker 1>Like it was just so that was pretty rough. Recently, though,

0:55:52.880 --> 0:55:57.320
<v Speaker 1>I will say we went to and the vacation itself

0:55:57.400 --> 0:55:59.279
<v Speaker 1>was amazing, but what happened while we were away suck.

0:55:59.680 --> 0:56:03.160
<v Speaker 1>So we went down to Puerto Rico. We're renovating this home.

0:56:03.960 --> 0:56:06.960
<v Speaker 1>We were tapped out financially, so I was like, we're

0:56:06.960 --> 0:56:10.399
<v Speaker 1>gonna use points well, fly out Jet Blue to Puerto Rico.

0:56:11.200 --> 0:56:13.400
<v Speaker 1>We're in an air We got an airbnb. It was

0:56:13.440 --> 0:56:15.759
<v Speaker 1>like it was like three quarters a mile from the

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<v Speaker 1>beach and we just rented a jeep for literally a

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<v Speaker 1>couple hundred bucks for five days. It was an amazing

0:56:22.600 --> 0:56:26.040
<v Speaker 1>vacation and marine come while we were there. We got

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<v Speaker 1>this dog recently, and she has anxiety and she can't

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<v Speaker 1>be in the house for more than like three and

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<v Speaker 1>a half four hours without doing bad shit to the house.

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<v Speaker 1>So we hired a guy. We said, one of those

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<v Speaker 1>doggy apps. Whatever. We said, here, here's the deal. You

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<v Speaker 1>can live in our house. It's nice. You do whatever

0:56:45.719 --> 0:56:48.280
<v Speaker 1>you want. This is your home for a week. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>one thing you can't do is leave that dog for

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<v Speaker 1>more than three and a half hours. And the sun

0:56:52.239 --> 0:56:56.360
<v Speaker 1>of a bitch. We're having dinner one night and my wife,

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<v Speaker 1>we've just finished dinner and she picked up her phone.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just like put it and she was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh god, oh god, oh god. And he had sent

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<v Speaker 1>pictures of what Jovi, our dog had done to the

0:57:08.360 --> 0:57:12.120
<v Speaker 1>windows in the rental house we were in. Oh my god.

0:57:12.920 --> 0:57:15.400
<v Speaker 1>And she had eaten the windows and the doors. And

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<v Speaker 1>he had left her for seven and a half that's

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<v Speaker 1>what he said. So I'm sure it was more than that.

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<v Speaker 1>But his girlfriend went to the hospital or some shit,

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<v Speaker 1>and oh my god, all you do is call, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>All you do is call And we had to call

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<v Speaker 1>a neighbor and someone would have gone yeah, no. So

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<v Speaker 1>if we were coming home and and he knew we

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<v Speaker 1>were flying home and we're in the car, and she

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<v Speaker 1>text him and said, hey, we're so, we're in we're

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<v Speaker 1>at the airport, we're heading home. You can And he

0:57:42.720 --> 0:57:43.600
<v Speaker 1>was like, do you want me to be here when

0:57:43.640 --> 0:57:45.840
<v Speaker 1>you get home? And and she just Karen turned me

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<v Speaker 1>and goes. He just asked if he should be there

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<v Speaker 1>when we get there. I was like, I beg him

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<v Speaker 1>not to be there when I get there. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be a very bad idea for him. So

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<v Speaker 1>he was gone. The windows were there, and it sucked.

0:57:59.440 --> 0:58:03.400
<v Speaker 1>And this cheap, inexpensive vacation that we took cost twice

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<v Speaker 1>as much to fix all the windows.

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<v Speaker 3>So that hurts. Yeah, so that was it hurts.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a great vacation, yeah, but at a cost,

0:58:13.800 --> 0:58:18.160
<v Speaker 1>at a cost. Oh may you had a bad one?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I've had one of those Florida ones. And with kids,

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<v Speaker 2>it really sucks because it was just like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>like raining so much you couldn't actually leave, Like you

0:58:26.440 --> 0:58:28.760
<v Speaker 2>couldn't you didn't even want to walk to your car.

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<v Speaker 3>It was raining so hard. So like rightly, so like

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<v Speaker 3>forget the beach of the pool? Can I even can

0:58:34.040 --> 0:58:36.000
<v Speaker 3>I go like to a movie? Inside?

0:58:36.240 --> 0:58:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Not really I mean, so you're just cabin fever stuck

0:58:39.960 --> 0:58:40.680
<v Speaker 2>in a We were in.

0:58:40.720 --> 0:58:41.640
<v Speaker 3>A condo at the.

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<v Speaker 2>Time, you know, Yeah, I've been on that, yeah, and

0:58:46.440 --> 0:58:49.280
<v Speaker 2>then the other the other, like bad vacation. I was

0:58:49.280 --> 0:58:51.640
<v Speaker 2>in my twenties and we went to Rome with some

0:58:51.680 --> 0:58:57.520
<v Speaker 2>friends and my luggage went to Osaka. So I land

0:58:57.640 --> 0:59:01.480
<v Speaker 2>and it's a five day vacation. For five days, I

0:59:01.520 --> 0:59:05.760
<v Speaker 2>have nothing. It comes on the fifth day, I'm running

0:59:05.800 --> 0:59:07.520
<v Speaker 2>around Rome. I have no money at this time, so

0:59:07.520 --> 0:59:11.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm running around Rome looking at like street street vendors

0:59:11.160 --> 0:59:15.480
<v Speaker 2>to buy clothes and toilet trees and trying to make something.

0:59:17.320 --> 0:59:17.919
<v Speaker 3>That wasn't great.

0:59:17.920 --> 0:59:22.520
<v Speaker 2>The vacation was fun minus that part. Okay, this is

0:59:22.520 --> 0:59:25.440
<v Speaker 2>a quiz. The Braves have won four World Series, but

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<v Speaker 2>only two as the Atlanta Braves. What were the first two?

0:59:30.200 --> 0:59:33.720
<v Speaker 1>Milwaukee and in Boston.

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<v Speaker 3>You're correct, You're correct. I knew you knew that one

0:59:39.240 --> 0:59:39.560
<v Speaker 3>of each.

0:59:39.600 --> 0:59:40.720
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't positive it was one of.

0:59:40.760 --> 0:59:42.120
<v Speaker 3>Each, but it was one of each.

0:59:42.160 --> 0:59:44.680
<v Speaker 2>It was Boston Braves nineteen fourteen and Milwaukee Braves in

0:59:44.720 --> 0:59:45.600
<v Speaker 2>nineteen fifty seven.

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<v Speaker 3>What is your guilty pleasure?

0:59:50.240 --> 0:59:52.840
<v Speaker 1>It was nic Grette, but I quit it. I'm very,

0:59:53.000 --> 0:59:57.439
<v Speaker 1>very happy about that many many years of doing that shit,

0:59:58.000 --> 1:00:00.520
<v Speaker 1>and I got a hypnotist and I and I did

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<v Speaker 1>it and I quit it.

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<v Speaker 3>The hypnotis worked.

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<v Speaker 1>It worked. He was a quick smoking hypnotist. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>it freaking worked. No, And I was like, no way.

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<v Speaker 1>So I go I go for my physical and my

1:00:17.240 --> 1:00:21.640
<v Speaker 1>doctor calls me and she was like, hey, so you're

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<v Speaker 1>pre diabetic. And I was like what, and she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, it doesn't make any sense. Your numbers came

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<v Speaker 1>back as pre diabetic. You're I know how much you work,

1:00:28.640 --> 1:00:30.600
<v Speaker 1>I know how you work out. I know what you eat,

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<v Speaker 1>like I eat right, I don't really drink hardly ever.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I was like, I know, I don't get it.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's like, I don't get it either. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to test you again. I was like okay. I tested

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<v Speaker 1>again a month later and she was like, you're pre diabetic.

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<v Speaker 1>So Karen, my wife, who's like she helps women through

1:00:47.400 --> 1:00:51.320
<v Speaker 1>menopause and personal trainer and yoga instructor. She's just a

1:00:51.480 --> 1:00:55.040
<v Speaker 1>warrior and a health nut, and she was like, you

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<v Speaker 1>texted me and she's like, you fucking idiot. It's a nicorette.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, it has because it has that. It's all

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<v Speaker 1>sugar free, so it.

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<v Speaker 3>Has that fake sugar stuff, fake sugar stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Which triggers your body and the thing. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>consuming so much of it. Anyone who takes niggarette knows

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<v Speaker 1>that it's worse, not worse for you. You're smoking, certainly,

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<v Speaker 1>but you consume so much of it. Like I never

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have a piece of my mouth ever. Ever, there

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<v Speaker 1>was always a piece of my mouth, whether there's a

1:01:25.840 --> 1:01:29.360
<v Speaker 1>mint or a gum or whatever. And it's so it

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<v Speaker 1>was definitely messing with my So so a friend was like,

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<v Speaker 1>gay man should try the shypnotist. And I did it

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<v Speaker 1>and it worked.

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<v Speaker 3>That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is the last question. It's the most important

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<v Speaker 2>question to me. Okay, when is it iced coffee season?

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<v Speaker 1>Always I think you can do it. Whenever I think

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<v Speaker 1>you can do it whenever.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you can do it whenever I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's you know, there's I don't do it

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<v Speaker 1>in the winter, but why not? Like but for me,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say I would go and and for me

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like in every now and then, after I've

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<v Speaker 1>had my morning coffee, my morning coffee will always be hot, hot,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what. Yep, An afternoon to light. I would

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<v Speaker 1>do it anywhere from say May to late August early September.

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<v Speaker 1>What about you? You obviously it's year round.

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<v Speaker 2>The answer is year round, and I only I only

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<v Speaker 2>have it iced in the morning. If I'm camping, I

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<v Speaker 2>might have it hot, but like, oh yeah morning, dead

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<v Speaker 2>of winter, it's iced because I want it like in

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<v Speaker 2>my veins.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to drink it quickly. I want it immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>See, it's so interesting to me. The immediacy comes from

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<v Speaker 1>that hot and it has to be hot.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, I get if I get.

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<v Speaker 1>Half a cup and it's and I'm getting warm chips

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<v Speaker 1>tossed the cup. Yeah, can't do it. Can't do it.

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<v Speaker 3>But at least you allow me to have it year round.

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<v Speaker 3>I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course you can, because you know you can do

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you want.

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<v Speaker 3>I knew, I like I knew.

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<v Speaker 2>I liked to Michael Kelly, this was so delightful and

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful and I'm so glad it happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't thank you enough. It's it's an honor spend

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<v Speaker 1>an hour with you, and I'm grateful, so thank.

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<v Speaker 3>You, Oh, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming up next week on off the Cup, I talked

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<v Speaker 2>to Broadway star of In the Heights, The Lion King,

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<v Speaker 2>Hell's Kitchen, and of course Hamilton Christopher Jackson.

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<v Speaker 1>Glynn and I are on stage during the performance of

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<v Speaker 1>In the Heights and he says to me, I'm my

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<v Speaker 1>next thing. I think.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, cool, what is it?

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, It's a hip hop concept album about the

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<v Speaker 2>Treasury Secretary. Time to go on out and then we

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<v Speaker 2>go out into the big number of ninety six thousand, right,

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