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Speaker 1: I'm so impressed you got the cookbook titles correct. Most

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Speaker 1: And I attribute that to eating foods like full fat

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Speaker 3: I mean a hinge of the holidays right now, but.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean my kids eat ice cream like

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Speaker 1: three out of seven nights a week, and I really

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Speaker 1: want my kids to not I don't say no to

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Speaker 1: anything they can have. Their friend gives them a lollipop,

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Speaker 1: I don't like throw it out in the trash. I

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Speaker 1: just try to offset it with like, let's have some

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Speaker 1: apples with peanut butter before we eat that lollipop, so

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Speaker 1: you that you feel you feel good, so that there's

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Speaker 1: not left like feeling angry.

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Speaker 2: I want to bring this back to fats because for

449
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Speaker 2: so many years fat has been completely vilified. You speaking

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Speaker 2: about how fat can be such an important part of

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Speaker 2: a well balanced diet. So let's talk a little bit

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Speaker 2: about what the non negotiable roles of fat, like olive

453
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Speaker 2: oil and butter and nuts, what those roles in a

454
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Speaker 2: diet can be for everyone, ranging from hormonal balance and

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Speaker 2: brain health to fighting inflammation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, fat is so important. It's a great

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Speaker 1: source of energy. It's going to balance your hormones better,

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Speaker 1: Like your body can't even like manufacture and create these

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Speaker 1: important hormones without right amount of fat in your diet.

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Speaker 1: If you're using like good quality fats like butter, olive oil, avocado,

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Speaker 1: nuts and seeds, yogurt, dairy, good quality dairy, those fats

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Speaker 1: are going to help with like everything from satiation is

463
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Speaker 1: so important. If you eat a meal that's like white

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Speaker 1: meat chicken, breast, rice, and broccoli, and there's no sauce

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Speaker 1: on there or no fat on there, you're going to

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Speaker 1: be hungry the rest of the night, and you're going

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Speaker 1: to be reaching for the chips and the chocolate and

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Speaker 1: the snack foods. But if you take that same dinner

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Speaker 1: and you add a really delicious sauce one you're getting

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Speaker 1: like the good healthy fats so that you feel satiated.

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Speaker 1: And two, fat is a carrier for flavor, so everything

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Speaker 1: you eat is going to taste better. So adding fat

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Speaker 1: or adding a homemade sauce is going to make you

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Speaker 1: feel more satiated and energize and less likely to have

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Speaker 1: sugar cravings. Supports our brain health, It supports our digestion,

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Speaker 1: it supports our hormones. Fat is one of the basic

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Speaker 1: important building blocks macros for nutrition. But then also a

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Speaker 1: lot of micronutrients are fat soluble, so your body can't

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Speaker 1: absorb a lot of vitamins without fat in your diet.

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Speaker 1: So if you're taking a supplement, you want to make

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Speaker 1: sure you're taking it with something that has fat and

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Speaker 1: in it, or else your body can't absorb the fat

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Speaker 1: soluble vitamins.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned macro nutrients.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, fat protein carves a lot of people stick scared

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Speaker 2: of carbs and now because of the way of the

487
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Speaker 2: world consuming way too much protein, talk to me about that.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, the protein obsession is out of control.

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Speaker 3: You're obsessed. My coffee must have protein foam on it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's important. Protein is important, But we've

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Speaker 1: taken it too far like we typically do. It's crazy

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Speaker 1: to me. I feel like the more obsessed we've become

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Speaker 1: with like nutrition or diet trends, that more unhealthy we get.

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Speaker 1: So we just rely on these like protein supplements, which

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Speaker 1: most of them are like super hard to digest, and

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Speaker 1: you're not even absorbing the amount of protein you're consuming,

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Speaker 1: Like you can only absorb so much protein in one meal,

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Speaker 1: So the protein obsession is driving me nuts. I do

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Speaker 1: think it's important for someone who maybe has zero knowledge

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Speaker 1: to be to spend some time being aware of what

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Speaker 1: does have protein, because you do want to incorporate protein

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Speaker 1: into your meals in every snack, but don't you don't

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Speaker 1: need to take these like you know, forty gram protein

504
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Speaker 1: bars or twenty gram protein drinks. If you're eating a

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Speaker 1: balanced diet, you're getting enough protein. But it is good

506
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Speaker 1: to be aware that, like maybe you want to switch

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Speaker 1: from whole milk yogurt to greek full fat greek yogurt

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Speaker 1: because it's high in protein, or you want to incorporate

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Speaker 1: eggs into your breakfast routine, or you want to incorporate

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Speaker 1: meat and like a lot of people you know, want

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Speaker 1: to eat vegan, which it can be done in a

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Speaker 1: healthy way, but you it's really hard to if you're

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Speaker 1: not eating a small amount of like meat or fish,

514
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Speaker 1: to get enough protein just from beans and rice and

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Speaker 1: lagoons and things like that. So yeah, just being aware

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Speaker 1: and learning, but then not counting or weighing or obsessing

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Speaker 1: over it. A lot of companies are using gluten as

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Speaker 1: their protein source, so they're adding gluten is already hard

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Speaker 1: to digest, and then they're adding like refine gluten as

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Speaker 1: a protein. Gluten is actually a protein, but it's hard

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Speaker 1: to digest and it's a very cheap ingredient. So a

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Speaker 1: lot of companies, a lot I'm not going to name

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Speaker 1: which one, but a very popular pancake mix the main

524
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Speaker 1: protein that they're adding is like a refined gluten. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: just be aware of a lot of these protein powders

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Speaker 1: also have the artificial sugar alcohols and the weird flavorings

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Speaker 1: and a lot of other ingredients. So if you my

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Speaker 1: favorite protein, if you do want to add like a

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Speaker 1: scoop of protein to your yogurt bowl in the morning

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Speaker 1: or to your smoothie, I like single ingredient protein powders,

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Speaker 1: especially pumpkin seed protein which is I buy like an

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Speaker 1: organic pumpkin seed protein that is just one ingredient, nothing

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Speaker 1: else in it, and that one is minimally processed and

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Speaker 1: easy to digest.

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Speaker 2: Never have I ever heard of pumpkin seed protein, but

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Speaker 2: you have opened my eyes now to this.

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Speaker 3: I just said, a.

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Speaker 1: Huge fan of pumpkin seeds in general. And so that's

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Speaker 1: the other thing is by adding the pumpkin seed protein

540
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Speaker 1: powder instead of just a handful of whole pumpkin seeds,

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Speaker 1: which is way cheaper, you're getting the protein, but you're missing.

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Speaker 4: Out on a lot of the micro nutrients.

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Speaker 1: So pumpkin seeds are an incredible super food for athletes.

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Speaker 1: They're high in iron, they're high in minerals, they're high

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Speaker 1: in zinc, they're great for your immune system. They're got

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Speaker 1: healthy fats and protein. But when you do just the

547
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Speaker 1: protein powder, you're missing out on the healthy fats. So

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Speaker 1: it's like a trade off, a trade off.

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Speaker 2: And what I really appreciate about the conversation that we're

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Speaker 2: having on protein is you're saying the best way to

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Speaker 2: be mindful of your protein intake is to simply be

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Speaker 2: mindful about what you're keeping in your home. It's not

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Speaker 2: about weighing things or reaching for supplements all the time.

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Speaker 2: It's more so just keeping options around which are going

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Speaker 2: to help you get to where you want to be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then eating balance nutrition, So like I can

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Speaker 1: easily get in enough protein in my diet at dinner

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Speaker 1: by having a chicken breast or a burger, But if

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Speaker 1: I eat just a plate of protein and vegetables, I'm

560
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: not going to feel good afterwards. You want to eat balance,

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Speaker 1: so you want to have your complex carbs in there too.

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Speaker 1: If I sit down and eat just like a plate

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Speaker 1: of eggs in the morning, I feel gross. Like if

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Speaker 1: I have that same plate of eggs, but I have

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Speaker 1: some of like my favorite sourdough bread with butter and

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Speaker 1: an avocado, like, I feel so much better. So cook

567
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Speaker 1: your dinner but also include rice or sweet potatoes or

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Speaker 1: pasta so that you're getting your carbs, you're getting your protein,

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Speaker 1: and also adding in a sauce or a fat like

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Speaker 1: avocado is great. It's you really want to feel good

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Speaker 1: after eating. So many people have lost touch with that.

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Speaker 1: They when you take math out of the kitchen and

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Speaker 1: you stop obsessing over counting, you can get back in

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Speaker 1: touch with listening to your hunger signals. Our bodies actually

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00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: know what we need and can tell us what we

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Speaker 1: need if we get the like packaged foods out that

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Speaker 1: have all that. You know, we crave the salty snacks

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Speaker 1: or the sweet snacks because that's what we're used to.

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Speaker 1: But once you get that out of the out of

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Speaker 1: your like every meal, every diet, every day diet, like,

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Speaker 1: you can get back in tune with listening to your

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Speaker 1: body's hunger signals.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you're really highlighting the blatant truth here,

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Speaker 2: which is that so many people have lost touch with

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Speaker 2: their natural hunger and fullness cues.

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Speaker 3: So let's expand on this a little bit more.

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Speaker 2: What would you say is one simple practice that the

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Speaker 2: listeners can adopt today to help them reconnect with their

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Speaker 2: bodies inherent wisdom about when and how much to eat.

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Speaker 1: It's so important to just have a healthy relationship with

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Speaker 1: food and not being afraid of it. I mean, something

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Speaker 1: I always want to put out there, but like I'm

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Speaker 1: afraid to say it on Instagram, and like, like, real

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Speaker 1: food does not cause waking. Let's just like stop even

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Speaker 1: thinking that real food is. It should be delicious, it

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Speaker 1: should fill you up, you should feel satisfied and energized.

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Speaker 1: It's the other stuff that keeps us snacking or that's

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Speaker 1: cut breaking havoc on our metabolism. It's not the real food,

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Speaker 1: like the artificial. If someone is trying to like diet

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Speaker 1: and lose weight and they're leaning towards buying something that

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Speaker 1: has that is a sweet treat but made with artificial sugars,

602
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Speaker 1: your body is like tricking your body and thinking it's

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00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,719
Speaker 1: your body's thinking it's getting the cat and it's not.

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00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: So then you're just like constantly in a state of

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00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: hunger and like reaching ended up like end of the day,

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00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: you're just reaching for all the like quick fixed snack foods.

607
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Speaker 1: But real food does not Like just getting people to

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00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: enjoy and celebrate real food and not think of it

609
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Speaker 1: as a villain. Real food should be amazing and delicious

610
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Speaker 1: and we should never think like it's causing harm to

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Speaker 1: our body when we're cooking wholesome meals.

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Speaker 2: And just to reiterate, for like Clarity's sake, we're talking

613
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Speaker 2: real food.

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Speaker 3: We're talking unprocessed foods.

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Speaker 4: Or minimally processed foods.

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Speaker 1: Like you could argue that like yogurt is processed or

617
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: pasta is processed, and I'm not I'm a fan of

618
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: celebrating carbs, and even like more refined carbs like pasta,

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Speaker 1: we don't have to be afraid of it, or having

620
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: your favorite like local sour dough bread with butter in

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Speaker 1: the morning, Like, don't fear those carbs, because we need

622
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: as athletes and active women, we need both the simple

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Speaker 1: carbs and the complex carbs very important.

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Speaker 2: And I'm sitting here and I'm learning so much from you,

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00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking that it is so wild to pivot

626
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 2: a little bit, that you weren't always interested in being

627
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,479
Speaker 2: the kind of person that would be sitting here talking

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Speaker 2: to me in this way today. I know that you

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Speaker 2: have a background as a digital producer at Nike and

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Speaker 2: now you're a cokebook author. Talk to me a little

631
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 2: bit about that decision for you to step away from

632
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 2: an in house job and go out on your own

633
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Speaker 2: and get into this arena.

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00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's kind of a crazy story. But I

635
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: worked in digital marketing at Nike for almost ten years,

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00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,479
Speaker 1: and I was fast tracked there. I mean, in my

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Speaker 1: low twenties, I was already making six figures. I had

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Speaker 1: they sent me abroad to do a stint at their

639
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: office in Amsterdam for two years, and then I was

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00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: back in Portland working at the Nike headquarters and learned

641
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: a ton. It was kind of like a ten year

642
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: MBA program. I learned so much, so I really appreciate

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00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: that time. But when I came back from later working

644
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: abroad in Geneva, Switzerland, I knew like after ten years

645
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: of like the grind of corporate it was pretty high stress.

646
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Speaker 1: Every day felt like a lot. I just wanted to

647
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Speaker 1: do something completely different, and I became so passionate about

648
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: nutrition and cooking from living in Europe and traveling all

649
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Speaker 1: over Europe and being inspired by the food culture over there.

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Speaker 1: So I decided to quit a very successful career and

651
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Speaker 1: go to culinary school in New York at the time.

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Speaker 1: Once I graduated from culinary school in New York, I

653
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Speaker 1: went to a program that was focused on nutrition and

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Speaker 1: culinary arts, so you learned how to become a chef

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Speaker 1: or also but like a nutrient like a chef focused

656
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Speaker 1: on nutrition. So we spent half of the time in

657
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Speaker 1: the classroom studying nutrition, the other half of the time

658
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: in the kitchen cooking. When I graduated from that program,

659
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: I was like, I just made the biggest mistake of

660
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: my life. Like I moved back to Portland. I had

661
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: no car, I was living in like a small apartment

662
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,479
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what was I thinking? I had no job.

663
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: I was like, how is this going to crossover? I

664
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:07,479
Speaker 1: really like I did not like culinary school. I had

665
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: to do an internship at a very high end restaurant

666
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: in Portland as a helping assisting a chef, and I

667
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: just like really hated the grind. I hated being going

668
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: from like being a leader at Nike to being an

669
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 1: intern in a kitchen restaurant, working till midnight and being

670
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: treated like I was at that point. I was in

671
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: my thirties and I was being treated like as I

672
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: was an eighteen year old, like hustler in a kitchen restaurant.

673
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: So anyways, dragging the story on, but it was a

674
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: huge regret of mine that I had left my career

675
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: and gone to culinary school. But I found a good

676
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: opportunity of crossing over my digital marketing career and helping

677
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: chefs in Portland with social media. So that kind of

678
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: kept me afloat for a little while. And then one

679
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: night Slaine Flanagan, who is my dear friend of twenty years.

680
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: We were college roommates and college teammates. We were sitting down.

681
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: I cooked her an amazing dinner and she was starting

682
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: to really amp up her mileage to train for her

683
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: first marathon. And cooked her this amazing meal, and she

684
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 1: was like telling me about now that she was training

685
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: with such high mileage, she was just hungry all the time.

686
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: And I looked at her and I was like, maybe

687
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: you just need more butter in your life, or some

688
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: kind of phrase like that. And we're just sitting around

689
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,439
Speaker 1: the table eating this amazing dinner and she's raving about

690
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,479
Speaker 1: all the dishes I had cooked, and on a total whim,

691
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: without any thought behind it, I just said, maybe we

692
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: should write a cookbook someday. But I didn't think it

693
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 1: would ever happen. It was just kind of like a joke.

694
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: And then like we did like six months of like

695
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: text messaging back and forth of like, oh, if we

696
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: wrote a cookbook, like no one would probably want to

697
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: publish it, we could maybe we could self publish it.

698
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 4: What would happen? But then it took.

699
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: When my daughter was born, like I knew I needed

700
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: to do this thing that I felt really passionate about

701
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: So that's when I was like, Okay, let's make this

702
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 1: a reality, and I pitched. I wrote a fifty page

703
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: book proposal, found an agent, she pitched it out to publishers,

704
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: and we had like ten or twelve public sure's been

705
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: on our first book. So I was like, Okay, we're

706
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: not going to have to hustle and self publish.

707
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, what a story.

708
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 2: Talk about feeling the fear and doing it anyway, and

709
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,959
Speaker 2: so many different aspects of this story. I first wanted

710
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 2: double click on the decision to go to culinary school.

711
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 3: When you made that leap, how did it feel?

712
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 4: Well?

713
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: Culinary one, It was really hard because my husband and

714
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: I were newly married. We knew we wanted to start

715
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: a family, and I moved to New York City and

716
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: he was in Portland, and we had just moved back

717
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: from living abroad, and it was a pretty stressful time

718
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: in my life. I had saved up enough to afford

719
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: culinary school, but I had not saved up enough to

720
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: afford New York City life. So I was CouchSurfing with

721
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: friends and I got, honestly the sickest I've ever been

722
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: in my life. I had like a you know, horrible

723
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: flu or cold that lasted for weeks, and then I

724
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:02,720
Speaker 1: suffered from major stress and like digestion issues and slept

725
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: on a friend's couch for several weeks. I stayed in airbnbs.

726
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 1: I eventually like bunked up with a friend that had

727
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: like a really good extra space for me in room

728
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: in her apartment. But it was just a weird, weird

729
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: time in my life, and I really regretted starting the program,

730
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: but felt like I had to see it through. And then,

731
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 1: like just the New York City lifestyle was so different

732
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: from anything I'd been used to in the hustle in

733
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: the kitchen, and I felt like the people in the

734
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 1: class like were all wanting to be like top chef.

735
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: It was very competitive and cut throat. So I didn't

736
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: really love the non supportive environment after years of working

737
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: on like the Nike Women's team, where it's all like

738
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: everyone is supportive of each other.

739
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a hard decision.

740
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: It took a huge a lot of support from my

741
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: husband to give up, you know, put on hold a

742
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: lot of like the dreams that we had, and also

743
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: give up like that steady salary that was like a

744
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: really scary thing.

745
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I'm sure that once you got that

746
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 2: job in Portland and you got back in the kitchen

747
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 2: and it wasn't as glamorous or what you had thought

748
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 2: it was to.

749
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 3: Be, that also came hand in hand with a lot

750
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 3: of emotions.

751
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I find like a lot of things in my

752
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: life I'd jump into without knowing, Like I had no

753
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: I went to culinary school with zero plan of what

754
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: I was going to do as my career, like I

755
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 1: and I tend to do that, Like I jumped into

756
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: starting this CPCHG company and now a year it took

757
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: us a full year to get our SuperH muffin mix launched.

758
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: I think if I had known what I know now

759
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: about like the world of grocery and retail and how

760
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: complex it is, I probably never would have started the company.

761
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: But I think it's always been my thing, Like I

762
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: jumped into a career at Nike without knowing anything about marketing,

763
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: and I jumped into you know, I've always just like

764
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: gone for it and not thought it through and it's

765
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 1: worked out so far. But yeah, sometimes I mean there's

766
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: always like stress and hiccups along the way. But I

767
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: think for a lot of young people, like if you

768
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 1: don't just do it and start. You're never going to start.

769
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: It's better to go in blind and figure it out

770
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: as you go.

771
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 3: Why do you think that is?

772
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 2: Why do you think that you have this tendency to

773
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 2: just jump right in.

774
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: I was like an extremely shy teenager and very timid,

775
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: but the sport of running like gave me so much confidence,

776
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: and I think that plays out into everything I do

777
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 1: in my life now. Like it taught me like work

778
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: ethic at a really young age. It taught me like

779
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: not to be afraid to get on that starting line

780
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: and put yourself out there and give it. You're all

781
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: not knowing like if you're gonna win or anything. So yeah,

782
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if the answers your question, but a bit.

783
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously sport played a really big part in

784
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 2: teaching you that it's worth to go into uncomfortable places, right,

785
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 2: But sport also, as you spoke about, because of the

786
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 2: injuries and the complications that you experienced, really knocked you down.

787
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 2: But what happened ultimately is that you also got up.

788
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 2: So this is where I see it coming from.

789
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 3: For you.

790
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 2: It's like I learned that I can jump in and

791
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 2: something not ideal might happen, but I'm still going to

792
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 2: be able to get out on the other side.

793
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: Yes, you're so insightful and so smart. Yeah, totally, Like

794
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: it was the lowest point, like not being able to

795
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: run in college and having to quit the team because

796
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 1: I had repeated injuries. Running was everything to me and

797
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: to walk away from running on the team in college

798
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,720
Speaker 1: was like giving up my family and my friend group

799
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: and my identity. But then to be if that had

800
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: never happened, if I had not suffered from all those injuries,

801
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 1: I would not have found this career path that I'm

802
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: so passionate about that gets me excited to jump out

803
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: of bed at five am and keeps me energized and honestly,

804
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: like now having being a mom to two young kids,

805
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: raising kids that are watching me do something that I'm

806
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: so passionate about is the biggest gift of all in

807
00:40:48,960 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 1: this whole career journey.

808
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 2: The note on if I knew when I started this

809
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 2: company what I know now, I wouldn't have done it.

810
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 3: What's been the biggest hurdle to this entire process for.

811
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: You, Emily, Everything is a hurdle when you're starting a

812
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: food company. The biggest hurdle overall is that I'm going

813
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: up against big food companies that spend thirty two billion

814
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: dollars a year on marketing. Like, I am really struggling

815
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: as we are a two person team. It's myself and

816
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: my husband. My husband left his career in the outdoor

817
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: industry to do this together, and I have so much

818
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: I want to teach people and educate people and share,

819
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: but we don't have the resources yet to hire like

820
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: PR or marketing or social media support or any I

821
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 1: could easily fill jobs for ten people with the amount

822
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: of work that I'm doing right now, So a lot

823
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: gets dropped, like I can't, you know, post on social

824
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: media consistently or do all the media outreach that I

825
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: should be doing, and things like that. It's just really

826
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 1: hard as a small food company because most food brands

827
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: that are on our grocery store shelves have huge marketing budgets,

828
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: huge teams behind it. So there's that, and then a

829
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: lot of people don't realize how expensive it is to

830
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: get into retail stores, Like we've had retailers reach out

831
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: out to us and be like, we want you on

832
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: our shelves, but then you find out that you have

833
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 1: to have this like commerce system back end thing, and

834
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: you have to pay for If your product is going

835
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 1: on their shelves, you have to pay for shelf space,

836
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: You have to pay If they're going to like run

837
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 1: a promotion on your food product, you pay for that discount.

838
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: You pay for everything. So a lot of food companies

839
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,919
Speaker 1: that are small and grow too fast end up going

840
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: under because they can't. They end up, like years into it,

841
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: they're not turning a profit. So we're kind of trying

842
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: to be like really mindful of how fast we expand.

843
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: So right now we're just direct to consumer through our

844
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: website Superhermuffins dot com, but some big ideas for twenty

845
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: twenty six and are definitely hoping to roll out to

846
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: grocery stores and retailers.

847
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 2: I want to get very specific about Superhero Muffins and

848
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 2: why this is what we're considering to be the Holy Gril, right,

849
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 2: So what is it about how this particular product sets

850
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 2: you up for the day that makes it great? And

851
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 2: also what can we learn from that foundationally for anyone

852
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 2: whether or not they're going to have this mix in

853
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 2: their cabinet.

854
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of breakfasts, so I'm a big

855
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: fan of first breakfast and second breakfast for active women.

856
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: So Superheromuffins feels that what should I eat as I'm

857
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: racing around and trying to get out the door for

858
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: a run. It gives you just the right amount of

859
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 1: balanced nutrition of both complex carbs and simple carbs, and

860
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: a little bit of protein and a little bit of

861
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,280
Speaker 1: fat and something that's light and easy to digest before

862
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,479
Speaker 1: you run out the door to your workout. Whether you're

863
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 1: getting up at six am and running by six thirty am,

864
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: or if you're going to the gym or whatever you're doing,

865
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: it just gives you that energy boost. It jumps up

866
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: starts your metabolism, it wakes up your digestion, and it

867
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: gets you out the door. So I'm really into educating

868
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 1: women on the importance of eating, not fasting, but eating

869
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: something small before you work out in the morning. You'll

870
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: train better because you won't feel like twenty minutes into

871
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: your workout that you're like absolutely starving or you have

872
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: zero energy. So the SuperH muffin mix is made with

873
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 1: nutrient dense ingredients, no added refined sugar, so it's sweetened

874
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: with real fruits and veggies, dehydrated fruits and veggies and

875
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 1: date powder, so made from whole ground dates and dates

876
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: are an amazing source of simple carbs for athletes. It's

877
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,479
Speaker 1: really going to energize you, but not because dates also

878
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 1: have the fiber in there. You're not going to get

879
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: that sugar spike and blood sugar spike that you get

880
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: from refined white sugar. So I'm a big fan of dates.

881
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: So we're using date powder in our superher muffin mix,

882
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 1: and then dehydrated ground up fruits and veggies like the

883
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: apple cinnamon one has dehydrated apple and dehydrated carret pieces,

884
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: and then almond flour and oats.

885
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 4: I'm a huge fan of oats.

886
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: You could sit down and eat a bowl of oatmeal

887
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: and get the same energy benefits as a superhero muffin.

888
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: But I find that, like as a busy working mom

889
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: trying to get my kids out the door by seven

890
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: twenty and like go for my run either before they

891
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: get out the door or as soon as they're off

892
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: to the bus, I don't have time to sit down

893
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: to a bowl of oatmeal that feels like so much

894
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: effort to eat in the morning. A superhero muffin I can,

895
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 1: like I eat one every single morning, and I'm sitting

896
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: at this counter packing school lunches and eating it while

897
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: drinking coffee, and then I typically try to run. This morning,

898
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: I ran with some neighbors at six forty five am,

899
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: still a little bit dark, but I don't like to

900
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 1: run in total darkness. But as long as the sun's

901
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: coming up, I'm out there. So it just helps me

902
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: get out the door faster versus like the effort of

903
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: eating a bowl of oatmeal, and like before the New

904
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 1: York City Marathon, and I was like, I'm gonna eat

905
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: a bowl of oatmeal that did not appeal to me

906
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: at all, But I had packed my own superhero muffins

907
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: and I ate two of those before the marathon and

908
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: felt amazing the whole race.

909
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 2: Why is this at every household? Seven twenty is like

910
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 2: the time it's growing up. I also had like, I

911
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 2: remember when I got my first job in New York City.

912
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 2: To get to the train on time, when I was

913
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 2: living in Milford, Connecticut, I needed to leave by seven twenty.

914
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, like our schools. Luckily we're only five minutes from school,

915
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: but the bus comes at seven twenty. School out here

916
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,280
Speaker 1: starts so early seven forty five, so I'm like dragging

917
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: my kids out the door, handing them a superhero muffin

918
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:38,760
Speaker 1: on their way out the door.

919
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 3: Everybody gets a superhero above it.

920
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: Most runners rely on. I have a lot of women

921
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 1: or men tell me I was eating like a bagel

922
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: before every run, but I always got a side stitch.

923
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 4: Like the typical foods of.

924
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: Like eating a bagel or eating a English muffin with

925
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: peanut butter, like those can be hard to digest because

926
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 1: most bagels on grocery store shelves are made with a

927
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 1: lot of refined gluten. So even if you're not allergic

928
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: to gluten or you're not celiac, eating foods that have

929
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: all that refined gluten is really hard to digest because well,

930
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 1: they add all these additives to store bought bagels because

931
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 1: that's what keeps them like soft and chewy for like

932
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: three weeks on store shelves without having to be refrigerated.

933
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, superhero muffins don't have any of that added

934
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: their gluten free and just whole food. Every ingredient can

935
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: pronounce and understand and know what it is.

936
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 2: Can we talk a little bit about white flour again

937
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 2: because you mentioned that before, is like something that maybe

938
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 2: I should be weary of, and I have been.

939
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 3: They're not superhero muffins, but making those like.

940
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 2: Four ingredient bagels, and they've been on my back burner

941
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 2: for a while now. So is starting my day with

942
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 2: white flour in my bagel maybe not my bestmo.

943
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: So white flour is a simple carb. It's processed the

944
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: same as sugar once it hits your digestion, so you're

945
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: basically it's sugar. I'm not completely again and sugar or carbs.

946
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 1: Like I eat pasta. I've tried the whole grain pastas

947
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 1: and my kids won't touch them, so I eat regular pasta,

948
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: which is also made with white flour, and we buy

949
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 1: sour dough bread from a local bakery which also has

950
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 1: white flour in it.

951
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 4: But it's what you eat with it.

952
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: So if you're having fiber in it to balance that

953
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: blood sugar spike and fat, So if you're eating it

954
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: with like a bagel with some almond butter and a

955
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 1: banana or blueberries or something, you get like the fiber

956
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: and the fat in there, so you're not getting like

957
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: the blood sugar spike on an empty stomach.

958
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 2: So basically I'm just gonna make the Superhero muffin mix

959
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 2: that is now in my kitchen and you'll be good.

960
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: And then we have like I eat the regular Superhero

961
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 1: muffin mixed before my run. But we have versions on

962
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 1: our blog on our recipes on our website for like

963
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: a high protein muffin where you can make it with

964
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 1: instead of adding water, you make it with Greek yogurt

965
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: to increase the protein and that's really delicious.

966
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 4: For like a post run.

967
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: Recovery, some really big on like get in your carbs

968
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: before your workout and then follow up with a meal

969
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: that's balanced and has higher protein and good fiber from

970
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: like fruits and veggies.

971
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 3: I love that. I love that.

972
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 2: I also think it's so relatable when you were talking

973
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 2: about how you feel as though you could hire probably

974
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 2: ten different roles to support you right now.

975
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 3: As someone who's also.

976
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 2: Been building on her own for a while, I can

977
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 2: really relate to that. I also believe that someone hears

978
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 2: that and they think, okay, but what do you do? Like,

979
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 2: how do you manage it? How do you not get angry?

980
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 2: How do you move forward? What comes to mind when

981
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 2: I say all that to you.

982
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: This is why I can't sleep past four thirty or

983
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: five am because I just wake up and I'm like,

984
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, my to do list is so long today,

985
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: Like I need to jump in before my kids wake up.

986
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: So I haven't quite figured out the system behind that yet.

987
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: I do hope that we can hire more help in

988
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: the near future. Yeah, I don't have a good answer

989
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: if someone else does, like I guess maybe some AI

990
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: tools could help me save time, but I haven't figured

991
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: that out yet either.

992
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 2: So sometimes I feel like the best thing, at least

993
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 2: for me, is to ask myself, like, what's within my

994
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 2: power to navigate within this situation?

995
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 3: Right?

996
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 2: So, yes, the overwhelm is gonna come and I'm gonna

997
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 2: feel it in so many ways. But then I just

998
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 2: ask myself, Okay, what can I do right now?

999
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 3: Or okay, like what can I do today?

1000
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 2: And so by breaking it down into little doables or

1001
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 2: smaller action items, then I'm able to like slowly chip

1002
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 2: away at the overwhelm instead of letting it chip away

1003
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 2: at me.

1004
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a really good point. I need to do

1005
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: more of, just like planning out my whole week versus

1006
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: like diving into each day thinking everything has to be

1007
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:45,959
Speaker 1: done that day.

1008
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 2: But this is in your nature. You're the person that

1009
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 2: just dives in and says, we're going to figure it out.

1010
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: I mean, the biggest challenge for me is I try

1011
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: to be working mostly done working every day by two

1012
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,240
Speaker 1: thirty pm when my kids walk in the door from school.

1013
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 1: And then I've become soccer mom and dance mom. So

1014
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: it's like I can work, but I can work in

1015
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: very short bursts. Like a lot of people say it

1016
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: takes them like twenty minutes to sit down and focus.

1017
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: Oh no way, Like I get five minutes here and there.

1018
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: I'm sitting in my car working while my daughter's at

1019
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 1: her dance class. Like I'm like the very antisocial mom

1020
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 1: at any kids activity that like doesn't chat with the

1021
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: other moms because I'm usually like hustling back to my

1022
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: house to get in like a tiny bit of work

1023
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: before I go back to pick them up.

1024
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:24,240
Speaker 4: Or I'm working in my car.

1025
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot happening there. And oftentimes when there's

1026
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,320
Speaker 2: a lot going on, that's when the stress can really

1027
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 2: impact us. I know you shared a lot about how

1028
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 2: stress has impacted you over the years. I'm sure many

1029
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 2: people listening to this can also relate to stress impacting

1030
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 2: them dealing with digestion issues. What can we do if

1031
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 2: this rings true for us, how can we combat the

1032
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 2: effects that stress has on our digestion.

1033
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, so my non negotiable is getting out for movement

1034
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 1: every day. So starting my day with a run or

1035
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: a yoga class is like my non negotiable. I think

1036
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 1: why I'm so consistent with running. I started running at

1037
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: twelve years old and I'm still love running at forty

1038
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 1: four is I don't think about it as like a

1039
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:15,399
Speaker 1: physical benefit or weight benefit for me, It's one hundred

1040
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,479
Speaker 1: percent mental health. Like I feel so much better when

1041
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: I'm outside at sunrise and in nature and start my

1042
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:22,479
Speaker 1: day with a morning run.

1043
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 4: I don't run far or fast.

1044
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: Like my workouts are always less than an hour, so

1045
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 1: like forty five minute run and then I start my

1046
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: work day. So that's my like non negotiable for balancing

1047
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: my stress levels. But then in terms of supporting digestion,

1048
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 1: it's so important. If your body's in a constant cortisol

1049
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: fight or flight mode, you're not going to digest, So

1050
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: your body can't actually digest unless it's like resting. So

1051
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: that's why my cookbook is called Eat Slow. So taking

1052
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: the time to sit down and eat meals at the

1053
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,760
Speaker 1: table without your phone in front of you, not eating

1054
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: like constantly. I'm guilty of eating my car but not

1055
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: eating like full meals like while driving. Being aware that

1056
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: if you walk in the door super stressed from your

1057
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: day and you're like hustling to sit down to dinner

1058
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 1: with your family, like just go for like a ten

1059
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: minute walk that can really lower your cortisol levels, wake

1060
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: up your digestion, and like reduce your stress before you

1061
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 1: sit down to eat. You're gonna have a horrible stomach

1062
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: ache if you eat when you're like super stressed. So

1063
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: I'd rather do like five minutes of meditation or yoga

1064
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: or go for a little walk if I've had like

1065
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: a really stressful day before I sit down to a

1066
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: big dinner.

1067
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 3: Wow, that last tip is kind of mind blowing.

1068
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, totally.

1069
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1070
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 1: I mean so much of us have constant high quartersole

1071
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: levels and then we're just not digesting or absorbing the

1072
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: nutrition from our foods.

1073
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 2: Wow, I'm like, Okay, for the foreseeable future, before I

1074
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 2: eat anything, maybe I should just do two minutes of

1075
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:52,439
Speaker 2: box breath and see.

1076
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, like honestly or honestly, like if you can I

1077
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: can tell when my cortisol levels are high, like right

1078
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: before bed or something if I I try not to

1079
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 1: like look at email, like right before bed, but if

1080
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: I see something and then my work brain turns on.

1081
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,879
Speaker 1: The thing that works is like movement. So do ten

1082
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: push ups or twenty push ups to like move that

1083
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: cortzo through your body. Like you can get rid of

1084
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: so much stress by going for a walk or moving

1085
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: or like not even going for a full run. You

1086
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: could literally just like your neighbors will think you're crazy,

1087
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 1: but just like a sprint down your street for two

1088
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 1: minutes and then like you'll feel amazing because you're just

1089
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: moving that quartzo.

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Speaker 4: Out of your body.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, gotta do some quick sprints before bed the

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Speaker 2: next time.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Yeah, we're.

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Speaker 4: Going for a walk after dinner can be really good too, for.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I love I love a posting.

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Speaker 1: I'm not good at it because it's so dark and

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Speaker 1: cold here right now this time of year in the summer.

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Speaker 1: I love it, but it's so hard. I want to

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Speaker 1: be in my pj's at six pm. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to go for a walk.

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Speaker 2: You and me, both, you me both Alice Before I

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Speaker 2: let you go. Today, I've got to ask you, in

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Speaker 2: the chaos that is starting this come from scratch and

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Speaker 2: building with your husband, have you taken a step back

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Speaker 2: and are you proud of yourself?

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Speaker 1: People who like people with my mentality that are like

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Speaker 1: always moving forward. It's so hard to I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: take more time to absorb like the emails I get

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Speaker 1: from people of telling me my cookbooks have changed their life,

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Speaker 1: and take time to like read the letters and the

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Speaker 1: cards and the emails and the Instagram messages and like

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Speaker 1: really appreciate and absorb it.

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Speaker 4: But yes, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Super proud of this career that I've chosen. And I've

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Speaker 1: seen the impact it's had on my daughter of her

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Speaker 1: watching me. She was super shy too, and now she

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Speaker 1: can get up in front of a microphone, in front

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Speaker 1: of dance on stage in front of hundreds of people,

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Speaker 1: and she's eleven. So I've seen how much my career

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Speaker 1: has impacted her. I used to beat myself up a

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Speaker 1: lot over being like a working mom that couldn't be

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Speaker 1: volunteering at school, but it has resulted in my kids

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Speaker 1: being extremely independent and extremely confident. So I see them

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Speaker 1: watching me be passionate about my work and especially starting

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Speaker 1: the company. They've been there every step of the way,

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Speaker 1: and they are have like these little entrepreneur brains that

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Speaker 1: have turned on in the process.

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Speaker 4: So I'm super proud of that.

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Speaker 2: It's so natural for us to pick ourselves apart for

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Speaker 2: the things that we feel like we should be doing. Now,

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Speaker 2: someone comes maybe to your Instagram page and they see

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Speaker 2: this New York Times bestselling cookbook author and now the

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Speaker 2: founder of this brand. But when you look in the

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Speaker 2: mirror at least, what is it that you see looking

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Speaker 2: back at you?

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Speaker 4: I see a mom honestly.

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Speaker 1: First, first of all, like a mom who has a

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Speaker 1: level of care and passion that maybe is what drives

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Speaker 1: me to want to be a change maker. But number one,

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Speaker 1: a mom is always what I see over like a

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Speaker 1: career woman or anything else.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so special and clearly your passion for being

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Speaker 2: a mom is really coming through. And your daughter and

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Speaker 2: your son seeing you doing something that excites you. I

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Speaker 2: think it's such a valuable thing to witness and be

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Speaker 2: along for the ride on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been quite the journey for our whole family,

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Speaker 1: and we're really excited for the year ahead.

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Speaker 2: Well, right now, Elise, you have an opportunity to offer

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Speaker 2: yourself a piece of advice. Let's go back to when

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00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 2: you were working in that kitchen in Portland. You're stressing

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Speaker 2: out a little bit. It's impacting your digestion yet again,

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Speaker 2: and you're worried what did I do here? And is

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Speaker 2: it the right thing? Knowing what you know now, what.

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Speaker 3: Would you tell your younger self?

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Speaker 1: I would tell my younger self that everything happens for

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Speaker 1: a reason and will make sense someday in the future.

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Speaker 1: So sometimes those lowest points of your life, whatever it is,

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Speaker 1: the challenges that we all cross, will teach you the

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Speaker 1: biggest lessons. So your low points or your failures can

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Speaker 1: become your greatest success in life if you channel it

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Speaker 1: and take opportunities as they come to you and jump

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Speaker 1: into two new opportunities and do it without fear.

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Speaker 2: Jump in and do it without fear at least. Coopeki

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Speaker 2: so happy that you were able to come sit down

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Speaker 2: with you today. For those that aren't following along with you,

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Speaker 2: just yet, give me the details?

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Speaker 3: Where are you online? Where can they find the muffins? Everything?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 1: So I'm on Instagram at Alisco Pecky. My name is

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Speaker 1: hard to spell, So you can't spell that. You can

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Speaker 1: look for at run Fast, Eat Slow, and then Superhero Muffins.

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Speaker 1: Our website is superhero Muffins dot com.

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Speaker 3: Superhero Muffins dot com.

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Speaker 2: I'm over at Emily a Body and at Hurdle Podcast

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Speaker 2: Another Hurdle Conquered.

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Speaker 3: Catch you guys next time