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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale LOLLI. He is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and it is May first.

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Speaker 3: It is May first. How about that about the beautiful

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Speaker 3: day out there? Absolutely? Moan?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And with May here the Steelers course, Now,

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Speaker 2: the next thing up on the docket for them is

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Speaker 2: making the decision in the naj Harris Oh right, fifth

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Speaker 2: year option. Got twenty four hours for that, right, yep,

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Speaker 2: about twenty four hours. I would expect it gets picked up.

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Speaker 2: But you know, there's no guarantees on those kind of things.

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Speaker 2: But you know, just just looking at what's some of

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Speaker 2: the top by running backs are getting paid.

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Speaker 3: Quick, folks. It's a six point six million guaranteed one

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Speaker 3: more year. Otherwise he'd be a free agent after.

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Speaker 2: This after this season, right right, that's six point six

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Speaker 2: million dollars would put him right between uh. And these

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Speaker 2: are what their contracts are average what Aaron Jones and

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Speaker 2: Miles Sanders average on their deals.

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Speaker 3: And just at David Montgomery and that's Jones's deal with

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Speaker 3: the Vikes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but those are longer term, you know. Yeah, there's

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Speaker 2: a long.

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Speaker 3: Term, one term guaranteed either because Sanders signed a pretty

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Speaker 3: decent deal a year ago with Carolina. Yeah, Aaron Jones

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Speaker 3: signed this offseason after getting cut by the by Green

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Speaker 3: Bay and that's like Montgomery numbers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right around there, neighborhood. Yeah, six, you know, six

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Speaker 2: to six point four million dollars.

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Speaker 3: Considering age and usage. I think Harris is worth more

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Speaker 3: to his respective team than any of those guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean in terms of is the

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Speaker 3: contract worth it? Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why I've seen a lot of this

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Speaker 2: in the last couple of days because it's the next

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Speaker 2: thing up. Oh, I don't know if i'd pick up

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Speaker 2: nausey Harris's the fifty year option or not. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: why wouldn't you?

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Speaker 3: The only reason I can come up with, and I'm straining,

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Speaker 3: is they ran a lot of power, a lot of

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Speaker 3: pulling guards, and that's what I think he does best

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Speaker 3: is between the tackle, runner, no nonsense, get downhill. And

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Speaker 3: if they're going to drastically change the run scheme, which frankly,

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Speaker 3: I think would be a mistake because that was one

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Speaker 3: of the things they did you know change what's working? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean that's what they did well. But Arthur Smith's

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Speaker 3: a heavy outside zone, you know, mobile out lineman. It's

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Speaker 3: not like nause. He can't do that. But he'd be

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Speaker 3: better with the old scheme than the brand new one.

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Speaker 3: But these run schemes, it's not like it's kind of

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Speaker 3: like man covered for his zone covered. It's not like

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Speaker 3: we're only going to run the same play, you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean, or when he's out there, will never run

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Speaker 3: outside zone. It's one year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I just don't see, you know, when

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Speaker 2: people talk about, you know, this is what Arthur Smith.

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Speaker 2: We don't have a big enough sample size necessarily of

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Speaker 2: what what Arthur Smith's offensive scheme he did.

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Speaker 3: He's adapted over the years.

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Speaker 2: He was a two year coordinator at Tennessee with the Titans,

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Speaker 2: and then three years as a head coach slash coordinator

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Speaker 2: with Atlanta where you know, and now he has he

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Speaker 2: had a little bit more hand than what he wanted

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Speaker 2: to build things. Of course, I would think that his

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Speaker 2: offense will be much more towards what Atlanta was trying

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Speaker 3: Oh, I agree, I agree. But one thing I think

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Speaker 3: we do know is he's gonna do what Mike Commin

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Speaker 3: tells him to do, correct, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, and so and so with any with any good coach,

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Speaker 2: you take what you have and you build your offense

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Speaker 2: or you build what you do around that. You don't

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Speaker 2: try to take Oh this guy only does this, but

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Speaker 2: I'm going to try to make him do that, and

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Speaker 2: oh it didn't work, No kidding.

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Speaker 3: Right, and say we won. About last year's offense, there

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Speaker 3: was some good things, for sure, and there's not there's

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Speaker 3: no reason to throw it completely out, you know, the

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Speaker 3: bath with the baby, whatever that is. And you know,

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Speaker 3: perfect example was eleven personnel versus double and tight end

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Speaker 3: the league. He was at the bottom of league in eleven.

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Speaker 3: It probably won't be thirty second, it probably won't be

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Speaker 3: or they'll be somewhere in between. I mean, these are

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Speaker 3: and you're gonna take a little of each, you know. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: At the same time, you know, when when he had

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Speaker 2: you had aj Brown and Corey Davis. Corey Davis. You know,

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Speaker 2: Corey Davis had almost nine hundred yards the number two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they got paid huge by the Jets right after

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Speaker 3: that because of the year he had. And Derek Henry

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Speaker 3: think the running game will be the foundation of it

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Speaker 3: all of course. And frankly, if you're going to add pieces,

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Speaker 3: you're gonna get the ones that fit what he wants

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Speaker 3: to do going forward, moving forward. Yeah, but it doesn't

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Speaker 3: mean your inherited pieces all have to go.

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Speaker 2: Right, It's just I mean, because that would be I mean,

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and that's a wholesale change, and it's brutal.

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Speaker 2: And you know, we're going to be a four defense

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Speaker 2: just play nickel. Yeah, it couldn't be any more different.

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Speaker 2: You don't many different bodies for each one of those things.

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Speaker 3: That's a nice thing about the stability A head coach too,

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Speaker 3: is Okay, I know I'm hiring you, but you realize

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Speaker 3: the stipulation that we're gonna keep drifting things towards the

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Speaker 3: way you want to coach. But we're gonna I mean,

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Speaker 3: there's go an be different ingredients here too. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you're not gonna build the exact same pizza with the

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Speaker 3: exact same ingredients, you know. Yeah, so it'll be interesting.

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Speaker 3: I could see both sides, but I think it's a

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Speaker 3: pretty close to a no brainer of picking it up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you have the people are wondering, well, why haven't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't think they're kicking it

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Speaker 2: What if the yeah, what if? They're also saying, you know,

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Speaker 2: we could we could instead of of picking up the

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Speaker 2: three year deal exactly.

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Speaker 3: I would say, maybe instead of that, it's well that

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Speaker 3: it could be the jumping off point. How about we

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Speaker 3: tear up your deal and give you a three years,

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Speaker 3: even give you some cap relief this year, right, I mean.

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Speaker 2: If you do it properly, rightah, So, I mean different

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Speaker 2: things the Steelers never like to do anything until they

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Speaker 2: have to do it, and that's because you can't take.

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Speaker 3: It back right exactly exactly. So that's it's small news,

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Speaker 3: but it's news, you know, and it's the deadline is

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Speaker 3: the second, which is tomorrow. A lot of the league

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Speaker 3: have already done it. I mean, Jamar Chase has got

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Speaker 3: haven't even gone through them all, but maybe somebody. We

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Speaker 3: can't even do it in that two hours. But it's

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Speaker 3: it's not as prevalent as it used to be. We've

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Speaker 3: laid that out over the last year or so. I mean,

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Speaker 3: not all of them get picked up, and good players

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Speaker 3: often have theirs declined. You know, it's not necessarily even

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Speaker 3: But running backs are pretty favorable to do it with.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's look at some of these. You know, the

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Speaker 2: top paid, highest paid running back per year as Christian

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Speaker 3: Okay, and I think he's different than everybody else just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Alvin Kamar is at fifteen million.

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Speaker 3: I'm shocked he's still with the Saints.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing.

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Speaker 3: I mean unless he's that's unless it's going to be

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor's fourteen million.

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Speaker 3: That's a recent signing, so he's on board with that.

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Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley is a twelve point five.

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Speaker 3: Also recent signing. You know, that's above the franchise tag

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Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs twelve million.

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Speaker 3: Okay, don't agree with the deal, but I heard someone

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Speaker 3: talking about this that that deal is almost basically exactly

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Speaker 3: a one year deal. Yeah, so, I mean they drafted

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Speaker 2: And then you got Joe Mixon at nine point eight.

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Speaker 3: I don't understand that at all that was a trade.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's a bad deal by the Bengals, right,

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Speaker 3: I'm Houston, I still wouldn't give it up a seventh

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Speaker 2: Then you got DeAndre Swift, you got Dereck Henry the

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Speaker 2: new signing. Yeah, looking at these contract so people, well,

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Speaker 3: Well, fifty year options pretty favorable.

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Speaker 2: Fifty year options pretty favorable. I'm looking at some of these,

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Speaker 2: you know, these contracts that these guys have gotten here,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, those guys have all been around the block.

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Speaker 2: So you know when people talk about, well the forty

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Speaker 2: nine ers just plug any running back in there, well,

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Speaker 2: they gave Christian McCaffrey a bunch of money.

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Speaker 3: They got a lot better when they put McCaffrey, and they.

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Speaker 2: Got a lot better when they put him in there.

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Speaker 2: Alvin Kamar has been very good for a long time

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Speaker 2: for the Saints. Jonathan Taylor, you.

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Speaker 3: Know that, we remember that whole story going back and forth,

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Speaker 3: and you know, he wanted more and they've eventually caved.

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Speaker 2: The Eagles are another team that, well they just find

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Speaker 2: anybody to plug in running back. They went out and

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Speaker 2: gave Saquon Barkley money.

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Speaker 3: Was very surprising to me.

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Speaker 2: So I wonder if things are shifting a little bit here.

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Speaker 3: I mean, even Jacobs and Henry right, this is the

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Speaker 3: swift got a lot of money. He was he got

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Speaker 3: paid at like twelve oh one the second you could

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Speaker 3: you know, I thought that was really interesting about free

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Speaker 3: And I think some of it was a reflection of

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Speaker 3: a not great rookie class coming in, you know, draftable guys.

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Speaker 3: But I also think a ton of it is the

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Speaker 3: same reason that guards and centers got paid as much

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Speaker 3: it to Derrick Henry, yeah, or Naji Harris or Naseia

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Speaker 3: running back thing. Just from a financial standpoint, you're gonna

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Speaker 3: So it's about this time and they start rookie mini

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just look at you know some of the

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Speaker 3: Hear I say, Javonte Williams was very close.

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Speaker 2: Greg Newsom. Okay, I could you know we both like

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Speaker 3: His fifth years getting picked up. He's a good player. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we did like him.

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Speaker 3: Did you see they extended Bateman?

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I bet it was a cheap deal.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure that's the kind of move of hey, we're

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Speaker 2: Eric Stokes, he hasn't great. He hasn't been great. No,

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Speaker 2: Greg grew Rousseau. Then it was Oway and Joe Tryon

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Speaker 2: Schroyanka the Steelers been great. Yeah, Steelers weren't going to

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Speaker 3: No, they've all been highly inconsistent and flashed here and yeah.

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Speaker 2: Tyson Campbell is the first pick of the second round.

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Speaker 3: Oh. Good player, Yeah, good player. Yeah, he's been good.

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Speaker 3: On two teams. You can't really find his way.

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Speaker 2: Javonte Williams bad injury, bad injury.

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Speaker 3: Before that, he has been close to the same. And

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Speaker 3: they drafted a running back this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah and again availability. He's played fifteen games and thirty

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Speaker 2: he's played thirty seven I'm.

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Speaker 3: Sure, Okay, thirty seven over three years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's got eight he's got eighteen hundred rushing

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Speaker 3: I mean, look great.

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Speaker 2: I loved him too. You loved him. You know, we

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And I don't think the Steelers wanted a two

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Speaker 2: They wanted one of those two guys probably, but yeah,

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Speaker 3: Wasn't a real rich area of the No, it was not.

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Speaker 3: And I know everyone's talking about Creed Humphrey, but Creed

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Speaker 2: That's why he went with the sixty third pick. People

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Speaker 3: He went forty four picks like yeah, I mean he

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Speaker 2: The Chiefs passed on him in the second runge Yeah yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: So anyway, and he turned be a good player.

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Speaker 2: I mean he's good player, but that yeah, absolutely, there

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Speaker 2: there are other good players. A good player and drafted

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Speaker 2: Pete Warner. You know, we both liked maybe he's starting

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Speaker 3: At even named many that were nausea or later picks

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Speaker 3: that was like, oh, man, have been really nice.

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Speaker 2: To have Walker Little and Jackson Carmen were second round

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Speaker 3: They're not starters or they're hanging off for your life

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Speaker 2: It's forty forty five and forty six.

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Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah, think about that in today's comparing in this

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Speaker 3: it is three days after the fact. But those guys

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Speaker 3: Carmen and Little and you know, a lot of those

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Speaker 2: So you know, I I think he's been fine. Do

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Speaker 2: I think nag fine? Is he one of the top

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: No, is he one of the top ten? Probably maybe

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Speaker 2: getting into that conversation at the end of that conversation,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Frankly, I think Warren Warner war In

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Speaker 2: Right, I think they compliment each other.

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Speaker 3: Well, there's something to be said about drafting a bunch

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you have your team. They just told us

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Speaker 2: by taking three offensive linemen with their first four picks,

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Speaker 2: what the intentions are.

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Speaker 3: Oh, we know what's happening.

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Speaker 2: If Steelers are going to run the football, may run

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Speaker 3: The foundation of the offense is going to be that line.

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Speaker 3: That's a great place to start.

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Speaker 2: And why wouldn't you then, yeah, pick up the option

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Speaker 3: Right? I do wonder now that it's gone down close

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Speaker 3: like that, because we know Omar Khan as a cap background,

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Speaker 3: and maybe he can look at it like I can

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Speaker 3: we can give him a chunk of guaranteed money, get

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Speaker 3: him for one more year and everybody's happy, and yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just maybe that's something that they.

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Speaker 3: Out two minutes that he's getting picked up.

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Speaker 2: It may yeah, you know, you just don't know, but

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Speaker 2: I'm sure they're they're kicking all those options around on this.

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Speaker 2: And again, the the biggest thing for Nausea Harris that

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Speaker 3: It's a big part of it and doesn't fumble the reliability.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just looking here. From the other guys in

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Speaker 2: He's got eight hundred and thirty four carries he's got,

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Speaker 2: I'm not either hero. He wasn't a high volume guy

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Speaker 3: True. True.

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Speaker 2: I mean he always kind of split some carries at Alabama.

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Speaker 3: When they were winning forty to nothing. He's on the

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolli. He is the Matt Williamson

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Speaker 2: and Matt now that the draft is over, let's take

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Speaker 2: a look at the Steelers roster. Yeah, okay, and you

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Speaker 2: know what, we'd still like to maybe upgrade at the.

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Speaker 3: Chart perspective, roles and everything like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be who's some who are some pieces that

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Speaker 2: maybe could be involved. There's been a lot of talk

439
00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,800
Speaker 2: but Steelers maybe being involved in some a deal for

440
00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:11,359
Speaker 2: wide out and that's.

441
00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:15,320
Speaker 3: Been speculated for a long time, and I hope it happened.

442
00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,919
Speaker 2: At this point, it's still just speculations, right. It amazes me,

443
00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,720
Speaker 2: amazing me how many people out there have sources.

444
00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:23,720
Speaker 3: That's hilarious to me.

445
00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,080
Speaker 2: I mean as soon as as soon as one person

446
00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,040
Speaker 2: reports anything that even hints at something like that, then

447
00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,600
Speaker 2: all these other ding dong go out or jump in.

448
00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,080
Speaker 2: Source tells me the Steelers are very close to this.

449
00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,720
Speaker 3: My guy within the organization, your source.

450
00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,560
Speaker 2: Was this other guy's tweet. They gave you the idea

451
00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,520
Speaker 2: to tweet this out then and then when it when

452
00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,520
Speaker 2: it doesn't happen, well the deal must.

453
00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:43,520
Speaker 3: Have fallen apart.

454
00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:45,640
Speaker 2: I know, I wasn't born yesterday.

455
00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,600
Speaker 3: Come on, and I guess what. Brian McFadden had a

456
00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,240
Speaker 3: quote on a podcast. Yeah, something big could be coming soon.

457
00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,920
Speaker 3: He's a part of the organization. I mean, I'm sure

458
00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,360
Speaker 3: he's got a buddy or two, but that doesn't mean

459
00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,200
Speaker 3: there's a deal in place.

460
00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,359
Speaker 2: Right It takes two to tango, and you know this

461
00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,840
Speaker 2: stuff he just doesn't just doesn't happen. So let's take

462
00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,760
Speaker 2: a look at the aforementioned wide receiver position. Okay, and

463
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:14,000
Speaker 2: you've got George Pickens, You've got Van Jefferson, you got

464
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:18,320
Speaker 2: Roman Wilson, the third round draft pick this year, Denzel Mims,

465
00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:25,480
Speaker 2: Quez Watkins, Calvin Austin des Fitzpatrick, Deuce Watts, Kijuan Harris,

466
00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:26,960
Speaker 2: and Marquez Callaway.

467
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 3: Okay, I always talking about Marcus Calloway. He's at least

468
00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 3: been around the block.

469
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,240
Speaker 2: He's had a season where he had forty eight catches

470
00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:33,439
Speaker 2: Indiana in the NFL.

471
00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, right, not a prospect.

472
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:35,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

473
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,560
Speaker 3: So the way I see that position is, by far

474
00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,480
Speaker 3: it's their biggest need. It's their weakest area right now.

475
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:47,240
Speaker 3: A lot of Pickens. I have faith in Pickens, not

476
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,639
Speaker 3: a lot of faith in Pickens. I think he'd be

477
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:55,879
Speaker 3: great with a healthy Mike Williams or you know, Sutton

478
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,040
Speaker 3: or somebody like that. On the other side, I worry

479
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,960
Speaker 3: about him getting all the attention, and if he happens

480
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,720
Speaker 3: to stub his toe, what the status of that position

481
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 3: looks like. I mean, that's the biggest concern for me,

482
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 3: not even like his work ethic or volatile nature or

483
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,400
Speaker 3: you know. Can he play the game? And he doesn't

484
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,240
Speaker 3: have to be a one. I don't need him to be.

485
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,159
Speaker 2: Aj Brown, but opposing defenses are going to treat him like.

486
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 3: I mean, that's the thing. Can he handle all the

487
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 3: attention and can they handle if he misses a series,

488
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,679
Speaker 3: you know, a game or whatever, because the rest of

489
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,960
Speaker 3: the group's really interesting to me, but I don't see

490
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,480
Speaker 3: it two in the mix. I think Wilson the rookie

491
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:45,920
Speaker 3: is projected, but he's a rookie to be a really

492
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 3: good three, you know slash slot, and I see the

493
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 3: other guy's always fours. So what I'm hoping, and I

494
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 3: think most listeners are, is if they can add someone

495
00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 3: of consequence, a starting receiver that him and that and

496
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,160
Speaker 3: Pickens is on the field most of the time, camp

497
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,439
Speaker 3: is going to be a blast for those last double spots.

498
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because there's legit dudes there, say right, I.

499
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 3: Mean, but if you're asking Watkins or Austin to be

500
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 3: that guy that's on the field with Pickens all the time.

501
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 3: That's too rich for my blood. But if they got

502
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 3: four of those dudes fighting for two spots in camp,

503
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 3: that's going to be a blast.

504
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 2: What about a guy like Denzel Mims.

505
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 3: This is a guy wait, see, this is a guy.

506
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 3: Was a high pedigree guy, early second round pick a

507
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 3: size speed guy. For people to.

508
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 2: Yah, the athleticism is comparable to George Pickens.

509
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:44,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, tall, long, linear RANDO grade forty great verticals hasn't

510
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 3: caught on.

511
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and for whatever reason, and you know,

512
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,679
Speaker 2: I mean when you look at it, he got He

513
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 2: got drafted into a bad situation.

514
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 3: Did he did? And he was a bit of a

515
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 3: one trick pony coming out. He was not a developed

516
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,640
Speaker 3: rout runner. Baylor had him not run at the verse routrey,

517
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 3: A lot of vertical stuff, a lot of spread, you

518
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 3: know what I mean. So he was not a perfect prospect.

519
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 3: He was a highweight speed prospect.

520
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 2: But he so. In three seasons with the Jets, he

521
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 2: played in thirty games, made fifteen starts, He had forty

522
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 2: two catches for six hundred and seventy six yards. I

523
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 2: would have guess under that he hasn't scored a touchdown yet,

524
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 2: but he like, think about the Jets quarterback situations in

525
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 2: those three years twenty one and twenty two.

526
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,159
Speaker 3: Really rough, really rough. I mean, there weren't a lot

527
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 3: of receivers lighting it up no matter what. I bet

528
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,959
Speaker 3: he makes big plays in camp. Yeah, you know, and

529
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 3: we will talk about him several times, like, don't forget

530
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 3: about this Denzel Mims guy. You know. I mean, I

531
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 3: hope he I don't know if it's what his work

532
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 3: ethic like when he came out, I have no clue,

533
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 3: but I hope he's out there blocking his butt off

534
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 3: and doing everything he possibly can to get attention for coaches.

535
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 3: You know.

536
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 2: Again, he's sixty three, two hundred and seven pounds. H

537
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,360
Speaker 2: he's listening, long arms and right, Yeah, he's he's he's

538
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 2: a big guy. We like some group of yeah.

539
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 3: Five dudes is interesting. I just don't see it two

540
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 3: or three amongst them, you know.

541
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 2: Or we like some of the stuff we saw from

542
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 2: Des Fitzpatrick in camp last year.

543
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 3: An he was really good on special teams too, right,

544
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 3: Like he's stuck around, So, I.

545
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 2: Mean, are there are some some of these guys that

546
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,400
Speaker 2: are down the roster here.

547
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 3: Depth is not gonna be a problem with this position. No.

548
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 2: I feel to me, I'm looking at this and they've

549
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 2: got like eight or nine guys, NFL.

550
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 3: Guys, NFL guys, right, they're gonna shot somebody that's gonna

551
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 3: get picked up and catch balls this year. Yeah, I mean,

552
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 3: and we haven't even talked about this. We could even

553
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 3: do a whole segment just on the receivers. Zay Jones

554
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 3: got let go yesterday. I assume he cleared waivers. I

555
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,640
Speaker 3: think it's been twenty four hours. I don't know exactly.

556
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,880
Speaker 3: Do you just want to keep throwing stuff at the fan.

557
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 3: I mean, I think he's better than any of those guys.

558
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 3: I think he'd be the two on this team today, folks.

559
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 3: I don't think he's the answer. I mean, I would

560
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,959
Speaker 3: not stop making calls. But if you could get him

561
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 3: on a one year deal. The other reason because because Jacksonville,

562
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 3: like all, he signed a terrible deal and they're.

563
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 2: Gonna count ten million dollars against their cap this year.

564
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 3: It's just like they're gonna cut Gabe Davis in two

565
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 3: years or they signed this year. I mean, it's just

566
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 3: what they do. I don't love him. I mean I

567
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 3: think he's closer to Tyler Boyd than he is DeVante Adams,

568
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 3: you know, but he would probably be their second best

569
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 3: guy today. Yeah, and at least makes it you could

570
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 3: line up with them today.

571
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:28,719
Speaker 2: People again continue to suggest Tyler Boyd, but you just

572
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 2: you just drafted him Roman Wilson.

573
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's very redundant.

574
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 2: I mean, boy's a slot receiver. You're not lining him

575
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 2: up outside and playing.

576
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 3: I bet Boyd runs to four to seven right.

577
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 2: Now, you're four to seven when he came out right right.

578
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,959
Speaker 3: He's got no vertical ability compared to Wilson. No, you know, right,

579
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 3: they're not even close. Now. I want a big bodied

580
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 3: guy and say he's close enough. But I mean, if

581
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 3: I'm gonna invest in something, not just give him a

582
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 3: veteran minimal deal on a one year deal because he

583
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 3: got cut. I mean, I'm going after a big body dude.

584
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 2: But it's clear by what's happened here as well, that

585
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 2: Arthur Smith likes Van Jefferson.

586
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I get that. I mean Van Jefferson's dad's

587
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 3: an NFL wide receiver coach.

588
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 2: You know, Arthur Smith went and traded for him last

589
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 2: year in Atlanta and the Jefferson's.

590
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 3: Making the team. Yeah, you know, right, very good route runner.

591
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 3: I think he timed well, but doesn't play super fast.

592
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 3: You know, he's not him and Austin are gonna win.

593
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 3: You know, he's I can pete with Austin in a race,

594
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 3: but he can play a slot. He could play out.

595
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 3: He definitely will block. He knows the system. Like of

596
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 3: all those dudes, I think he is the best chance

597
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 3: of making the team. Yeah, you know, yeah, I really do,

598
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 3: including Austin.

599
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 2: I just want to you know, if if they're not

600
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 2: going to throw the ball a ton, if they're not

601
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 2: going to go out and average thirty five pass attempts

602
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 2: per game, they're not gonna be in thirteen person or

603
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:50,199
Speaker 2: eleven person although a lot. If he can't live with

604
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 2: this group, assuming pick and stays healthy right for seventeen,

605
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 2: which is a big assumption.

606
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 3: I can't live with this group. I can't give up

607
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 3: next years first though, in any it's the problem including

608
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 3: Adams or a Yuk. I might need a quarterback and

609
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 3: that Trump's.

610
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 2: Ever not interested in trading trading a first round pick

611
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: for thirty two year old Devonte Adams.

612
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 3: Right, you could convince me a second could be involved

613
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 3: for the right players and depends on the finances, and

614
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 3: maybe I get a fifth back or something like that,

615
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,199
Speaker 3: but the first round pick is off the table, including ayuk.

616
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 3: I mean really, I don't know.

617
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 2: That I want to part with a second round pick.

618
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 2: Be tough, give be tough, give them what we expect

619
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 2: next year's drafts will look like. And given the Steelers

620
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 2: success at taking receivers in the league overall of second

621
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 2: round receivers, I know, I might. You know, I just

622
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 2: can't give that up for a guy plus take on

623
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 2: a contract.

624
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 3: So I've had a lot of conversations lately, and I

625
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 3: want to say Rob King brought this up a couple

626
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 3: of times. Somebody over the weekend kept bringing it up,

627
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 3: and I've thought it for a while, and I've had

628
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 3: these conversations before, and I think you and I have

629
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 3: had these conversations. With the price of receivers now thirty

630
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 3: plus million for the studs. You know, Lamb's going to

631
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 3: make more than Brown. Jefferson's gonna make more than Lamb.

632
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 3: He might get to thirty five. And he's awesome. I mean,

633
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 3: by no means am I saying that. But if if

634
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 3: you started this process and they've done it for any

635
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 3: way quite a bit. If you decided never to pay

636
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 3: a receiver and you just drafted one on Day two

637
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 3: every year, every year, and when your time's up after

638
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 3: four years, you're gone, or you're traded for a first

639
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 3: round pick or a second round pick. If you're a hit,

640
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 3: you'd be fine and you'd have nothing invested in the position. Yeah,

641
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 3: I mean you could start that process, you know soon.

642
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 3: I mean you're not quite ready to do that, but

643
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 3: that brings back to you ready to give up a

644
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 3: second round pick next year for even the third I

645
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 3: mean right, those are valuable picks in the receiver world.

646
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 3: With you, you're not gonna get DK metcalf or Adams

647
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 3: or without those type of picks.

648
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 2: You know, on the offensive line, you know have Troy Fatanu,

649
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 2: Isaac Samalu, Zach Frazier, James Daniels, Broderick Jones.

650
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 3: They're gonna be the start.

651
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 2: You got Dan Moore, you got Mason McCormick, You've got

652
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 2: Nate Herbig, Spencer Anderson who they drafted last year, Ryan McCollum,

653
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 2: who was with them all of.

654
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 3: Last Yeah, they like, I mean, he's not a throw away.

655
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 2: Not a throw away. You still have Kellen Deatch.

656
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 3: I don't think you mentioned Cook.

657
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 2: Cook Dylan Cook are still there, you know. So there's

658
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 2: some guys there, there's some other end of the roster

659
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 2: guys there. They've got a pretty good number of offensive linemen

660
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 2: as well. I mean, if you think about it, they

661
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 2: brought in three, right, they lost two that were on

662
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 2: the roster last year.

663
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 3: They're always one more than they need. Yeah. It's another

664
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 3: o more con thing I'm noticing is they seem to

665
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 3: come into camp with nine or ten spots available and

666
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 3: they have ten or eleven NFL players on the line, Yeah,

667
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 3: which is enviable.

668
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 2: I mean, we don't know anything about some of these

669
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 2: other guys. I have no idea. Maybe they maybe one

670
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 2: of these guys is the next Dylan Cook.

671
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,239
Speaker 3: Exactly exactly, yeah, right, And so then you turn I know,

672
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 3: one of these guys went on to have great success

673
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 3: and one didn't. But you turned Green and the guard

674
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 3: from Louisiana, Jason Dotson into late picks. You know, people

675
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 3: are always going to be in the market for NFL linemen.

676
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 3: And there was a spot in camp whenever he was

677
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 3: running fullback stuff. We thought Kendrick Green might be part

678
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 3: of the mix. You know. I mean, even though he

679
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 3: wasn't successful at center, but you still got stuff for

680
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 3: those dudes. And what if injuries hit hard on the

681
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 3: O line and camp. You know, they've been very fortunate

682
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 3: with O line injuries for two years ago now and

683
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 3: back to some of the dudes. I firmly believe Cook

684
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 3: and Anderson will be Steelers next year. Like, I don't

685
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 3: think they're fighting for roster spots. I mean, they're not

686
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 3: slam dunks, but I think they like them enough that

687
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 3: they think they're NFL backups at a minimum. Yeah, cheap cheap, Yeah,

688
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 3: dirt cheap, Like you can't get.

689
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 2: Cheaper tight end. You got Pat Frearmouth, Darnell Washington, Connor Heyward,

690
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 2: Michael Pruett, and Rodney Williams. Again one more NFL guy.

691
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 3: Extra guy, which is also true receiver. Yeah, I mean

692
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 3: they're gonna cut an NFL dude even if they don't sign,

693
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 3: they must have two more.

694
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 2: At tight ends tight end right, like you got.

695
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 3: My hunches they keep this year? You know, I mean

696
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 3: that maybe only five receivers and four tight ends. I

697
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 3: mean we'll talk about roster stuff down the road, but yeah,

698
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 3: I mean there's almost one extra at every position on

699
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 3: offense that we know this team now likes to trade

700
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 3: and likes to make moves. You know you can turn

701
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 3: them into something. They're not first first round picks. You're

702
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 3: not gonna turn them into DeVante Adams, but you'll turn

703
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 3: them into something.

704
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Quarterback Russell Wilson, Justin Fields, Kyle Allen, and now

705
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 2: John Reese Plumbley who they signed as an undrafted free agent.

706
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 2: So another guy there. Four quarterbacks.

707
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 3: Allen's a bit of a luxury, really it is. He's

708
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 3: not a superstar, but he's an NFL quarterback.

709
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 2: He's one extra, one extra right right.

710
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 3: That seems to be a theme with how they team built.

711
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 2: At running back Nausea Harris, Jaylen, Warren cor Darryl Patterson,

712
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,959
Speaker 2: Aaron Schamp Champion, the one Edwards, the Georgia running back.

713
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, they picked up he might be the one extra

714
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 3: after tons of carry I mean yeah, in those top three,

715
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 3: how many carriers those guys are get in the pre

716
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 3: season like none? Quarter Ole Patterson doesn't need them. You

717
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 3: don't want more getting beat up. You're not not gonna

718
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 3: give them the nausey. So some of these other dudes

719
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 3: are someone's going to show up and look good. Yeah,

720
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 3: and at least make a name for themselves in pre season. Yeah.

721
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 2: And then they have another fullback, Jack Coletto, on the

722
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 2: roster as well. On the offensive side.

723
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 3: I wonder what his style is. I know nothing about him.

724
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 2: I really don't either. But offensively, you're right, they have

725
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 2: one extra guy, one extra NFL through these things available

726
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: in each position, really.

727
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 3: And extra linemen or gold whether their guards or whatever

728
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 3: they are. Yeah, I mean tight end they have. And

729
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 3: Rodney Williams is going to fight hard for this team.

730
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 2: Rodney Williams, I mean last year, Yeah, it was a

731
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 2: great special teams player left down their.

732
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 3: Spec last year. I mean, did they need quarter All

733
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 3: Patterson as a third running back? No, you know, you

734
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 3: can get an undrafted free agent and put him in there,

735
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 3: and obviously he returns kicks and the familiarity like a

736
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 3: Van Jefferson thing, but that has.

737
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 2: Value, absolutely absolutely. Let's get to a break.

738
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 3: You'd had a starting receiver. It all just falls into place,

739
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 3: But at what cost.

740
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 2: Let's take a break. We'll come back and talk about

741
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: the defense and maybe a little bit of the specialist

742
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 2: as well when we return. This is the Drive on

743
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with more right after this.

744
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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

745
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

746
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

747
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 2: And we're back. I'm Dale LOLLI he is the Matt

748
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: Williamson and Matt we're going over the Steelers roster here

749
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 2: post draft and taking a look at things. We just

750
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 2: did the offense in a previous segment. Now let's look

751
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: at the defense. Starting with that defensive line. You've got

752
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 2: Larry Ogunjobi. You've got Keanu Benton. You've got Cam Hayward.

753
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 2: You've got Dean Lowry who is a big free agent pickup,

754
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 2: Montrevius Adams. So they re signed Isaiah Loudermilk to Marvin Leal,

755
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 2: Braden Fojoko who they resigned, drafted Logan Lee. You still

756
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 2: have Jonathan Marshall as well. Yeah, and also Jacob Slade.

757
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 3: Okay, so again was there that's nine NFL players on

758
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 3: their problem.

759
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 2: Marshall he count if he coun't leave. Although he's a

760
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 2: six round draft pick. I mean, that's that gets you

761
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 2: to ten.

762
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 3: That gets you a ten. I didn't include Marshall because

763
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 3: he's kind of been borderline, but he's gonna make noise

764
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 3: of camp. Yeah, you know, I mean it's not bad.

765
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 3: I think it's pretty strong the fears. I mean, like

766
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 3: if things go wrong, it's like Cam got old Ogan job,

767
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 3: he's not the same. Now what have we got? You know,

768
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 3: like if those two things happen, that could could turn

769
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 3: that area into a weakness. I don't think it'll ever

770
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 3: be a well if it's a home run, Cam looks

771
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 3: like he did two years ago, Benton takes a step

772
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 3: forward and Oguin Jobi is your three. You'll take it. Yeah,

773
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 3: and you keep him fresh and mix in some Lowry

774
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 3: and Adams and maybe one of the three youngsters. I

775
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 3: was lump them together, le Al, Loudermilk and Lee. Now

776
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 3: they're like, h he's better than I thought. You know,

777
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 3: he took a step forward. Yeah, then you'll be all right.

778
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 3: I do tend to think that there's a good chance

779
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 3: next year's draft will be an early pick at this position. Yeah,

780
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

781
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, And outside linebacker, you got t J. Watt, you

782
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 2: got Alex Highsmith, you got Nick Herbig, and you got

783
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 2: Jeremiah Moon.

784
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 3: He's not a throwaway either.

785
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 2: Kyron Johnson David Pereles. Yeah, and then Jacobe Winman is

786
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 2: the kid they signed out of.

787
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 3: I have no idea of Moon's good or bad on

788
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 3: special teams, but that'll be. But he'll be in the

789
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 3: last cuts at least now the thing. You know, he'll

790
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 3: at least be around after, you know, late in the process.

791
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 3: I think her Big is ready to be the three. Yeah.

792
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 3: I wouldn't love if he had to be forced into

793
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 3: the two and had to play sixty or seventy snaps,

794
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 3: but I would still be very interested in bringing back

795
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 3: Marcus Golden.

796
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:14,919
Speaker 2: Yeah.

797
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's others out there similar if he doesn't want

798
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 3: to come back or somebody you prefer, but I thought

799
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 3: he was really good. Yeah.

800
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 2: I just wonder how much the kickoff rules play into

801
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 2: guys like Marcus Golden not having jobs right now because

802
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 2: they're just not going to be out there running around

803
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 2: on they could.

804
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 3: If you're a backup anything on defense besides D line,

805
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 3: you better be somewhat special teams capable. Yeah, and I

806
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,720
Speaker 3: think her Big led the team in special team snaps

807
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 3: last year. Maybe you don't want him to be the leader,

808
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 3: you know, maybe he wants to reduce his roles or.

809
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 2: You know, if he does end up having the start

810
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 2: for a stretch, then what happens, right, right?

811
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 3: Right? I just think Golden's good at football and on defense.

812
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 2: Yeah not hear.

813
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't super expensive similar deal that It makes

814
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 3: sense to me. I think there's still a roster spot

815
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 3: open there.

816
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 2: It inside backer. You've got Patrick Queen, you've got to

817
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: land in Roberts, Cole Holcombe, Peyton Wilson, Mark Robinson, and

818
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 2: Tyler Murray.

819
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think Robinson's in trouble, but he's gonna have

820
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 3: something to say about that. Yeah, Hulcombe's injury. We just

821
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 3: don't question marks. We just don't got to like put

822
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 3: that in ittallics or you know, an asterisk by that.

823
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 3: If he can't go, when he's a pup guy, then

824
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 3: so be it. You know. I mean, you're you're fine,

825
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 3: I think without him, right, I mean, I think you'll

826
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 3: be fine without him. With them, I think it's a.

827
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 2: With my goodness.

828
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so we'll see.

829
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think they're going to add anybody else.

830
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 3: I think they're pretty deep and thick there at the right.

831
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 3: I don't think if anyone goes, I would think it's

832
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 3: hulk them.

833
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 2: Uh, at cornerback. You got Joey Porter, You've got Dante Jackson,

834
00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 2: Darius Rush, Corey Trice h. You've got uh, of course

835
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: Ryan Wats who they drafted this year.

836
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 3: Luke Barko is Do they list Watts as a corner Yes,

837
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,720
Speaker 3: it's the safety or the stealers announced him as he's.

838
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 2: Listed as a cornerback as we speak. That doesn't mean

839
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 2: that's where he'll stay, right right right right? Uh And

840
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 2: this is I'm looking at our lads here as well.

841
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 3: I know, Yeah, I just couldn't remember what they announced him.

842
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 2: They also have bark who and Caitlin Barnes also is

843
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 2: outside cornerbacks.

844
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 3: I don't know think about Barnes, but bark Wo.

845
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 2: Barnes showed up last year and did some stuff.

846
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I say bark wasn't bad. I mean bark who

847
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 3: I thought was in the mix to make the team. Yeah,

848
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 3: another guy there is needed to I think a slot

849
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 3: would go a long way.

850
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 2: Well, so it's a slot position right now, Okay, haven't

851
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 2: given you those? You got Josiah Scott.

852
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 3: Who's the name people need to know.

853
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Thomas Graham, who's been around the league of wills

854
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 2: a slot and then they brought in Beanie Bishop from

855
00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 2: West Virginia as well. I still think that they are

856
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 2: maybe looking for if you're not going to turn your

857
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 2: nose up at a veteran a veteran slot. But Josiah

858
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 2: Anderson or Josiah Scott, I should say, has played the

859
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 2: position in the NFL and done it. In two twenty

860
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 2: twenty two for the Eagles, played about four hundred snaps

861
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 2: in the slot, eight pass breakups and two interceptions that

862
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 2: season out of the slot.

863
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 3: People hate hearing this, but when you team build, there's

864
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 3: only so many resources, there's only so much cap space.

865
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 3: There has to be philosophical thoughts on where do we

866
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 3: cut corners? You know, like in the Dick Lebo offense,

867
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 3: they could cut corner a corner, which was a huge advantage.

868
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 3: I mean they most teams were spending way more corner

869
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 3: than the Steelers were. I wonder if this regime thinks

870
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 3: slot is somewhere with it. We're just gonna be okay,

871
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 3: but we're going to be cheap. We're not going to

872
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 3: have a six million dollar slot player. You know, We're

873
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 3: just going to revolve revolving door that they're not long

874
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 3: for this world. They get beat up a lot. I'm

875
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 3: sure if the right guys out there, they jump all

876
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 3: over it. But the draft and free agency have kind

877
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 3: of shown me that, Okay, if there's one there, but

878
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 3: we're not going to go out of our way to

879
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 3: make sure we have a great one. Yeah.

880
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now there has been some talk of perhaps springing

881
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 2: Cam Sutton back since he's a great agent, but he

882
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 2: certainly has to get everything legally resolved.

883
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think before he'll be on top of that.

884
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 3: And yeah, I can't speak for what happened, but when

885
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 3: he left here he was considered a high character player. Yeah,

886
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 3: team captain of Tennessee, and you know, things happened. I'm

887
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 3: not excusing it, but they should at least kick the tires.

888
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

889
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

890
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 2: Safety, You've got Maker Fitzpatrick, You got to Sean Elliott,

891
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 2: de Monte Casey, Trenton Thompson did some good stuff down

892
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 2: the stretch last year.

893
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 3: Glad he's back of camp.

894
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 2: Miles killer Brew of course is an all pro. Yeah,

895
00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 2: he's a special teams guy. Also have Jalen Elliott who's

896
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 2: played games in the NFL, and Nathan Medoors.

897
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 3: Okay, would you consider bringing Row back too? It's pretty

898
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 3: crowded back.

899
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 2: Yeah again right, Now you've got six guys at that

900
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 2: position who have NFL.

901
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 3: Experienced, Yeah, I mean including Thompson and yeah, probably keep five.

902
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 3: Is my hunts just the way they're built. I liked

903
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 3: what Road did. That's why I kind of threw them

904
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 3: out there. But you don't have to make that decision

905
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 3: now either. You don't get scooped up. Yeah, go to

906
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 3: sleep at night. Same with Gold, you know.

907
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, and those guys don't mind missing training camp.

908
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 3: Exactly, and they're like, yeah, call me in July or whatever. Yeah,

909
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 3: I'm cool with the safeties at punter.

910
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 2: You got Cam Johnston taking over the grade, the you

911
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 2: got Chris Boswell. They they did go and added matthew Wright.

912
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 3: Do you have any logic behind that? Is it just

913
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 3: to save his leg? Yeah?

914
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 2: They well, they had to try out. He was the

915
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 2: best guy there, and you bring they want to bring

916
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 2: in a camp leg. And I'm sure matthew Wright looked

917
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 2: at this and said, I'd like to go somewhere at

918
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 2: least be able to kick. Yeah, yeah, and put some

919
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 2: stuff on tape. So that's why you do that. And

920
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 2: then Christian koints as the long snapper again here but I.

921
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Speaker 3: Doubt you could turn right into a seventh round pick.

922
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 2: But no, probably everybody knows you're not going to keep two.

923
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not gonna get many for that, But having

924
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 3: the second one there.

925
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 2: Unless somebody would get hurt during training camp and somebody

926
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: went to make a move before.

927
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 3: That's what you're hoping. But they almost always have two legs,

928
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 3: right because.

929
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Speaker 2: Rights, yeah in rights and NFL kicker and I'm fringe,

930
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: but he's he's an NFL.

931
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Speaker 3: He's been around, and he'll be in the camp next year,

932
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 3: whether it's here or somewhere else. I mean that type

933
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 3: of guy. And I'm sure Boswell, like a top quarterback,

934
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 3: doesn't want to swing his leg a thousand times at Latrobe. Yeah,

935
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 3: that makes sense.

936
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 2: But maybe not quite the overall depth on defense defense

937
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 2: that they had on offense.

938
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Speaker 3: But there's especially edge and corner. The linebackers are deep,

939
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 3: d lines deep safety is deep. Yeah, and probably done

940
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 3: at all those spots. I mean maybe you grab a

941
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,959
Speaker 3: row or something like that. But the on the perimeter though,

942
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 3: the outside linebackers and corners, another body wouldn't hurt.

943
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Speaker 2: Well, I think they'll wait to do that. I think

944
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 2: they're definitely gonna want to see what they have in

945
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 2: Darius Rush and Corey Trice without question before they make

946
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: any move like that, and the last draft, if they

947
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: both hit, then you're really right.

948
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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, if there's a slot corner, not even

949
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 3: Sullivan or you know, one of those guys, but if

950
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 3: there's a slot corner out there, you could add them.

951
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,760
Speaker 3: But you don't have to. Now, would you consider bringing

952
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 3: back Patrick Peterson and ask them to be a slot

953
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 3: only good influence?

954
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 2: Maybe doesn't blow right, Yeah, I mean I would get

955
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 2: it in terms of the you know, just having the

956
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 2: voice in the locker room, but it have to be

957
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 2: at the right price.

958
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 3: I mean, does he want to play at league minimum

959
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 3: and be a slot only guy too? I mean, he's

960
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 3: been the best corner league in the past, you know

961
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 3: what I mean. It's a bit of an ego check,

962
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Speaker 3: you know.

963
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, for sure. Let's get to another break. That's

964
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Speaker 2: going to do it for our number one of the

965
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Speaker 2: drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with

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Speaker 2: our number two right after this.