Speaker 1: But let Cavs show. We got a special guest in here,
Speaker 1: fresh from Rolling Loud weekend. I saw you on stage
Speaker 1: doing your thing, you know what I'm saying, Saucy Santana's
Speaker 1: in the building. What is going on outside? Never inside?
Speaker 1: You are outside for sure. I see you everywhere. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: congrats on the Freshman cover. Thank you. That's dope. I
Speaker 1: like to do it. Yeah, salute to that. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, breaking down barriers, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: that's a big deal. Yeah. Do you feel like the
Speaker 1: homophobian hip hop's starting to fade away a little bit? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I feel like gay is regular, like kind of like
Speaker 1: now even when you watch your when you watch TV,
Speaker 1: gays everywhere. It's almost on every TV show is something gay,
Speaker 1: every everything that you like, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's just like it's becoming normal. It's becoming normal. So
Speaker 1: I think people are just kind of like it is
Speaker 1: what it is. Yeah. I've got into arguments with people
Speaker 1: who are like, you know, you know, shout out to
Speaker 1: a guy like Boozie who's obviously says some offensive things
Speaker 1: at times. But I feel like, you know, there's like
Speaker 1: this misconception that like watching a buzz light Year and
Speaker 1: they're being the same sex kiss can make kids gay,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yo, this is like people are born
Speaker 1: this way. This isn't like something like forty five years
Speaker 1: in the life. You just decide. Man, I've been watching
Speaker 1: a lot of Will and Grace, So I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: dip my toe into that part. Like how do you
Speaker 1: feel about like just that. I don't think that. I
Speaker 1: don't necessarily think that watching that kind of stuff. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, for me, I feel like kids are sensitive.
Speaker 1: So I get the argument of it because there's certain
Speaker 1: things that I don't let my little sister watching, certain things.
Speaker 1: I don't let my god kids, you know, be up.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't, but you also wouldn't let them watch like
Speaker 1: straight people like doing crazy shit. You're not gonna You're
Speaker 1: not gonna watch no adult movies or you're not gonna
Speaker 1: watch you know what I'm saying, you know, people having
Speaker 1: sex on TV, like it's everything. I'm just gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna censor you as a child. I'm not gonna necessarily
Speaker 1: make it about you know, sex, I even or you know,
Speaker 1: gay things on the tab. I even have a lot
Speaker 1: of cousins, Like I grew up with a lot of
Speaker 1: my cousins that are my age. We grew up like
Speaker 1: brothers and sister. So I called their sons my nephews.
Speaker 1: They my nephews. They see me nails, lashes, perse all that,
Speaker 1: and they like, you know, of course, okay, he's different,
Speaker 1: but you know, I'm still outside of him. We're playing football,
Speaker 1: I'm still you know what I'm saying, were playing baseball.
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, you know, you're a boy. You don't
Speaker 1: do that, like you know what I'm saying. So it's
Speaker 1: just like that don't just because they see me, that
Speaker 1: don't mean like, oh, you know, Uncle Santana got nails on,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna do. You're still a boy. You're
Speaker 1: still doing your own thing. So you can't really try
Speaker 1: to pin that on kids like oh they're seeing this,
Speaker 1: that's what they're gonna do. Right. How old were you
Speaker 1: when you came out? Seventeen seventeen, so that's pretty like
Speaker 1: deep into high school years. Yep, seventeen, I was a
Speaker 1: junior junior high school. Was it like pretty evident that
Speaker 1: you were like yeah, you know what I mean? I mean, like,
Speaker 1: you know, you kind of see that growing up and
Speaker 1: different things like that. But just as seventeen, I was like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm beIN. I graduate high school at seventeenes so I
Speaker 1: was like, man, graduate so you were super smart, I'm outside. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you were getting a head on credits. Well, no, my
Speaker 1: birthday is in October. Oh you had one of those
Speaker 1: weird birthday. Yeah, we're birthdays. So I was seventeen. Everybody
Speaker 1: was eighteen when we graduated. I couldn't even go to
Speaker 1: the club. Yeah, there was eighteen up clubs in Florida.
Speaker 1: Gotta be crazy, man, Nothing like a Florida strip club.
Speaker 1: Nothing like it. The office, oh my god in Miami.
Speaker 1: Great place, small place, but a great place, great place.
Speaker 1: It's a great place. They got good food there too,
Speaker 1: not as good as Toutsies. Well what you know about
Speaker 1: that lobster tail with the seafood, right, Yes, that was
Speaker 1: a big thing. That was what tuty was was no
Speaker 1: for people, not really that messed up about it, that
Speaker 1: fucked up about it no more. But that was the
Speaker 1: big thing to get that sees also like lightweight Tootsies
Speaker 1: is a brothel. You know what I'm saying. It's you
Speaker 1: got to catch a vibe if you want to see
Speaker 1: you can go to Totis ketch a vibe, have some
Speaker 1: good food, get a massage, and also maybe catch a virus.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Yeah, there's a lot going on right
Speaker 1: now with fucking monkey pox. See the video of the
Speaker 1: sky on the internet with monkey pox. Nah, but I
Speaker 1: have been hearing a lot about monkey pox, so I
Speaker 1: just be like, eh, I be keeping my di's like
Speaker 1: move Yeah, I see what I mean. But they like
Speaker 1: it's offensive to touch people right now. Yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's wild. I mean, but you know, I
Speaker 1: feel like you just got off the tour with Lotto
Speaker 1: not too long ago. You've been doing some festivals obviously
Speaker 1: rolling aloud. It's a big look like are you finally
Speaker 1: you feel like you're kind of coming into your own
Speaker 1: as a performer. Uh yeah. Performer for me was always easy.
Speaker 1: That was the easiest shit to do, you know, on
Speaker 1: the stage, to turn the fuck up. Yeah. So ever
Speaker 1: since I speak, like, you know, started getting popping and
Speaker 1: started booking shows and stuff like that, performer was easy.
Speaker 1: I think I'm coming more into a performer now because
Speaker 1: now I don't do clubs, I do a lot of festivals, right,
Speaker 1: I do a lot of big productions. I about to
Speaker 1: do Jimmy Fally so huge. It's huge. So it's like
Speaker 1: it's different from in the club rapping like fufflot songs
Speaker 1: right click, and now you got to have dancers and
Speaker 1: everybody got to hit the steps at the same time.
Speaker 1: And you gotta. I went from having to entertain a
Speaker 1: thousand people in the club to have a roll in loud,
Speaker 1: got a you know, and it's hey, thirty thousand people
Speaker 1: on the crowd. You're like, it's okay. And you're also
Speaker 1: entertaining a bunch of people who like just saw you
Speaker 1: for the first time. You got it, you know, you gotta,
Speaker 1: you gotta. So it's like you really got to put
Speaker 1: on a show because I always wanted even the people
Speaker 1: that didn't know me to go home, like who is that?
Speaker 1: I like him? This Booty record with Loto is this
Speaker 1: record you guys did on tour before tour after tour.
Speaker 1: Boody was at the tour after tour, so you guys
Speaker 1: kind of linked up on the tour I'm assuming became
Speaker 1: friends refriends prior no friends prie me and a lot
Speaker 1: of in for instance, nineteen twenty nineteen first out of
Speaker 1: Oh Shit, Okay, we were signed to the same label,
Speaker 1: stream Cut, it was an independent label, was signed on
Speaker 1: it together, and then she went to RCA and now
Speaker 1: I'm RCA two, so you're both label mates again. Yep,
Speaker 1: there it is. So did you like come up in
Speaker 1: the like rap scene in Florida or did you have
Speaker 1: to go to Atlanta? My shit just went viral after
Speaker 1: I Ready to Walking Back a Dog's Your Love for
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen on SoundCloud. They did a million plays in
Speaker 1: seven days and it was over shit my life changed.
Speaker 1: I was just did did you say when you did
Speaker 1: that record you would like had any intention to take
Speaker 1: music serious? No? Never. I never dreamed of being a rapper.
Speaker 1: I never wrote poems. I never did none of that.
Speaker 1: Ship my dad used to write when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: but I always even going through high school, all of
Speaker 1: my friends used to rap, like my home was in
Speaker 1: high school to rap, I used always be like, get
Speaker 1: out of here, like you're not going to be a rapper.
Speaker 1: You gotta be a little way in to fucking drinking.
Speaker 1: Somebody happened like that. There's nobody who like looked like
Speaker 1: you was doing it, So be fair. I also think
Speaker 1: you're the first person I know Little nas X is gay. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I feel like you're like flamboyant, yes, in a
Speaker 1: different way. Is that Is that appropriate to say? Yes? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's cool because you know when Lana's when we first
Speaker 1: met Lil Nina's, you know, he was he we didn't
Speaker 1: know he was Yeah, we didn't know he was just
Speaker 1: he just had the fucking cowboy record. Yeah, I'm saying
Speaker 1: I think I'm the first one that came out like
Speaker 1: you know, what you see is what you get. You
Speaker 1: already know what time it is, you know when you
Speaker 1: see me. And to be able to have amount of
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Speaker 1: everyone gets groopies. When you have this type of fame,
Speaker 1: what are your groupies? Like I got, I got like weirdos,
Speaker 1: I got uh different niggas trying to talk to me.
Speaker 1: You got a girl just say I'm pregnant. She's pregnant
Speaker 1: with my baby? Like wow, a girl said that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she was like I seen some like blogs ship like
Speaker 1: some girl says, I'm she pregnant with my kid? Did
Speaker 1: you ever? Did you ever dabble in females? Did you
Speaker 1: ever sleep with a woman? I'm all, like high school,
Speaker 1: so in high school, you're banging. I had friends, So
Speaker 1: I only ever had sex with like one girl, like
Speaker 1: ever in my life. Okay, just to be like, let
Speaker 1: me try and just to see you give it a shot.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm tripping, yeah, like let me see it was
Speaker 1: it was right though, it was cool. It was fun.
Speaker 1: It was fun, but it wasn't fun enough for you
Speaker 1: to keep going down there, to keep going with it
Speaker 1: was like okay, like you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: could I see I see what you got going on?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's another Macaroni fan. This
Speaker 1: was in high school. Yeah, I was out high school already.
Speaker 1: I was out of high school. Shout out to you, damn.
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, I feel like we're kind
Speaker 1: of getting to the point where, like, you know, I
Speaker 1: feel fifteen twenty years from I just like everyone's gonna
Speaker 1: be fucking everybody, Like, yeah, I feel like it's going there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know mad gay boys that that was like fucking girls.
Speaker 1: I know mad like a lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: niggas that I talked to, like got kids from like
Speaker 1: you know, previous relationship being in high school and still
Speaker 1: being down out and still fucking girls. That kind of like,
Speaker 1: you know, hey, I'm not gay, like so I don't
Speaker 1: talk I don't talk to a few niggas. They got kids.
Speaker 1: That's interesting. They kids be like nineteen years old, like
Speaker 1: they was fucking you know, girls in high school, girls
Speaker 1: get pregnant. Niggas got kids. How do you feel like,
Speaker 1: because I feel like we've we've had a couple of
Speaker 1: teaching moments in the last year in terms of just
Speaker 1: like you know, what happened with the baby last year?
Speaker 1: Runing loud like I feel like, uh, sometimes we're very
Speaker 1: quick to like shit on somebody as opposed to like
Speaker 1: trying to like teach them this new cancel culture. Cancel
Speaker 1: culture bullshit. It's like trolling is a trend now. So
Speaker 1: now the world is different. Back then you had to
Speaker 1: like like you wasn't making no blogs, like we had
Speaker 1: to reach it in magazines or you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: or space. It was hard. Now now you'll get on
Speaker 1: in there and customing on. I cut yours back out
Speaker 1: on a shape run in three seconds and three seconds.
Speaker 1: Or you can tweet my picture and say something, say
Speaker 1: something some dumb shit or some vibral shit. They go
Speaker 1: viral you all over the blog. So now people feeling like,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Not to say that fans
Speaker 1: are less damn, but it just feel like they're important.
Speaker 1: Like so they like, oh witch, I know I can.
Speaker 1: Everyone feel like they got an opinion. That's yeah, And
Speaker 1: y'all feel like y'all got leverage. Like people like to
Speaker 1: feel like they got you by the boss, like oh
Speaker 1: you said this, say sorry an listen to your music
Speaker 1: no more. You can't never come back outside like suck
Speaker 1: a dick, Like are y'all talking about literally literally like
Speaker 1: you know, it's like because people are not doing things
Speaker 1: now because they actually care. People are doing things now
Speaker 1: because like because they're gonna get attention. They're gonna get attention.
Speaker 1: Like I got the top comment or oh one hundred
Speaker 1: people said it down like it's blue hat, So we
Speaker 1: don't fuck with the blue hat because hudred people said
Speaker 1: in the comments, we're just gonna being waggoners. I just
Speaker 1: feel like with a lot of the cancel culture shit,
Speaker 1: like just in general, like most of the time, it's
Speaker 1: like a very small amount of people who are on Twitter,
Speaker 1: dumb people. Like when you meet people in real life,
Speaker 1: I suld a god, I just said this. It's like, Yo,
Speaker 1: most real people don't give a fuck about said this,
Speaker 1: just said this. That's all minority. Who are I'm saying
Speaker 1: the cancel culture is in a motherfucking comments. It's in
Speaker 1: the internet where you meet people in real life, I'd
Speaker 1: be like, well, where is all the motherfuckers that hate
Speaker 1: because people they try to come at you fro tweets. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they just crazy. They do that to everything, everybody, everybody,
Speaker 1: And it's like my thing is my thing is. I'm
Speaker 1: not a I'm a realistic person. I'm not a fake
Speaker 1: wote person like everybody now is like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I can't believe you said this in twenty eleven. Bro,
Speaker 1: if you wasn't famous, If the same people that's finding
Speaker 1: our old sweets, if they wasn't famous, let's go in
Speaker 1: YO two and see what the fuck was you saying? Also,
Speaker 1: what are you doing with your life where you're digging
Speaker 1: through someone's timeline back to do it? They do it
Speaker 1: when you were about to reach like some type of
Speaker 1: accomplishment or something. And that's how I said. People now
Speaker 1: know that I could go dig up a tweet and
Speaker 1: I could make this go viral, and I could have
Speaker 1: you being in a laugh and stock or the talk
Speaker 1: of the whole world right now because we people it's
Speaker 1: set up to now where like bitch has got you
Speaker 1: by the balls, like, oh, I can go find his
Speaker 1: old tweets saying he's gonna get canceled and we're gonna
Speaker 1: and he's gonna have to sit down and apologize. They
Speaker 1: feel like they got some kind of power over you now.
Speaker 1: So it's not even people's drugs. It's like they get
Speaker 1: a dopamine hit. Yeah, when they come for people and
Speaker 1: it works, and it works, and it's like, but you
Speaker 1: know you have so many people in the world, like, Bro,
Speaker 1: somebody said shit ten years ago. That's why I loved
Speaker 1: that Cardi B. Suit. I mean, listen, I don't know
Speaker 1: that blogger, you know what I'm saying, But I love
Speaker 1: the fact that Cardi B won that lawsuit. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: that blogger was saying some funck shit. Yeah, and it's like, yo,
Speaker 1: hopefully this kind of helps correct and people. You know,
Speaker 1: people believe love the negative narrative of things. That's what's best,
Speaker 1: that's what's more better or fun to believe in them.
Speaker 1: So when you're saying wow, shit about people or like,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Even when people are digging
Speaker 1: up these old tweets and we do these pr apologies
Speaker 1: that would make you do guess what, the people still say,
Speaker 1: fuck you don't believe you. Of course, oh we don't
Speaker 1: care you. You said that, you meant it, so just
Speaker 1: be like whatever. But I go through comments and I
Speaker 1: see those people, the logical people. That really is like, bro,
Speaker 1: somebody said some ship ten years ago. Who gives ten
Speaker 1: years ago was well, you had to have a viral
Speaker 1: tweet were also ten years ago? Getting canceled wasn't a thing.
Speaker 1: It was like I'm gonna just say some ill shit
Speaker 1: you got. You got on Twitter and talked ship, you
Speaker 1: got on Twitter, you watched award shows or you watch
Speaker 1: whatever the fuck, and you've just said wow, crazy shit
Speaker 1: because back then you really had to have a good tweet.
Speaker 1: Well you know what I mean. It works crazy too,
Speaker 1: because they just tried to do that with Glowrilla, and
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, like she just signed a crazy deal.
Speaker 1: And I told you, whenever you do an accomplishment, they come,
Speaker 1: they come like, oh you don't even like, I'm like,
Speaker 1: so what ten years ago she probably didn't. Who gives
Speaker 1: a fuck? She didn't know yo got it? She did.
Speaker 1: She was a music humor voicing her opinion, voice her opinion,
Speaker 1: and then five under. But you know what will be
Speaker 1: so crazy about them old tweets. They will only dig
Speaker 1: up the negative ones. Ten years ago she probably could
Speaker 1: have said fuck yo gotty. And then seven years later
Speaker 1: she probably could have said, YO, gotta the hardest wrapping
Speaker 1: out right now. But they're not gonna show you that part.
Speaker 1: They gonna show you that. Ay, she said fuck yo
Speaker 1: got it ten years ago, and it's crazy. Me. I
Speaker 1: gotta ask you a question. I use pause a lot.
Speaker 1: Do you know what that means? Yeah, because it is
Speaker 1: that homophobic. No, okay, not to me, Okay, I gotta
Speaker 1: ask now my guys like, yo, man, yo, I need
Speaker 1: an extra meat on my sandwich. I just want to
Speaker 1: make sure, fus, it's not It's not just one thing
Speaker 1: about gays. Gays are sometimes we're extra sensitive because you know,
Speaker 1: just how we're looked at a lot of stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: gays are kind of you know, throw it to the
Speaker 1: wayside a considered you know, bottom of the barrel of things,
Speaker 1: or you know, even when we dealer with you know, men,
Speaker 1: we consider like you know, soft or you know, different
Speaker 1: things like that. Gas is always on the defense. But
Speaker 1: that's not that's not to me, that's not that's not offensive.
Speaker 1: That's not offensive. No, got to make sure, man, you
Speaker 1: calling me something crazy outside my name is offensive. But
Speaker 1: the pause pause, that's cool. It's cool, okay, But you
Speaker 1: gotta make sure because I'll be pausing a lot now.
Speaker 1: I mean I say that like I want to ask you.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, that's me and my brother trade Me
Speaker 1: and my brother trade tracks. My producer. Like if I
Speaker 1: would have been like, I want extra, he would have
Speaker 1: been like hey yo, Like that's our pause, Like hey
Speaker 1: what or I could be like with my nigga son
Speaker 1: and my nigga like put his arm around my show.
Speaker 1: My brother gonna be like hey yo, Like that's how
Speaker 1: I pause. So now that's not you're taking. Yeah, currently
Speaker 1: currently relationship? How long you been in a relationship? My
Speaker 1: nigga actually just spent the block stuff. He just spent
Speaker 1: the block. He just spent the block. What's that mean?
Speaker 1: I mean, I know what's spending the block means, but
Speaker 1: like in context true relationship, well, you know, we we
Speaker 1: what's in a relationship last year, you know, and he
Speaker 1: came back around hot, right back in the car. Oh
Speaker 1: shout out to him, and you came back in yeah, absolute,
Speaker 1: I mean you know yeah, I mean maybe he's all age.
Speaker 1: I almost just shereed you. I'm sorry, Jesus christ. Uh,
Speaker 1: you're on the freshman cover. Things are going well, maybe
Speaker 1: I need to come back around before they get the
Speaker 1: reason why I really fucked him though, because he ain't
Speaker 1: he like you know what I'm saying. Of course he
Speaker 1: was his accomplishment stuff, but like he just really a
Speaker 1: real nigga like that that don't that don't make or
Speaker 1: break me his relationship, like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm I'm very observant, so I watched things
Speaker 1: like that, like you gotta watch my niggas. That's like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, he lit, like damn he more lit than
Speaker 1: last year. Like like that nigga ask you know nothing
Speaker 1: from me? Like you know he a good dude. What's
Speaker 1: what is a romantic gesture that that you have in
Speaker 1: your pocket? Like like give me like a romantic gesture
Speaker 1: that you you go to in a relationship. He says,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not really Like when my wife out
Speaker 1: by her flowers, it'll be like eleven roses and it
Speaker 1: totally stole us from the internet and one white rose
Speaker 1: in the middle, and I'll leave her letter and I'll
Speaker 1: be like, you represent the right white rose because everybody else.
Speaker 1: What's that? It's so funny. He says that I'm not romantic.
Speaker 1: He's more of a romantic one. Like that niggas brought
Speaker 1: me two thousand dollars worth of flowers and I was mad,
Speaker 1: ash like that's a lot of flowers. Yes, but like
Speaker 1: I'd be mad too if my girl I'd be like
Speaker 1: many we could have bought. I could have got a
Speaker 1: now pair shows, I could have got four thousand tacos
Speaker 1: from Jack in the box. So he mad romantic. Me
Speaker 1: I'm more thoughtful. So like his dad passed when he
Speaker 1: was a kid, and uh it just the anniversary of
Speaker 1: the death had came up, and so I had just
Speaker 1: like samm and Alpan, I was like, hey, go get
Speaker 1: some flowers and balloons, you know, to take to the
Speaker 1: gray Field dead. Oh wow, So I'm thoughtful. I think
Speaker 1: I'm romantic. I'm not really romantic, like I'm thought I'm thoughtful. Yo.
Speaker 1: Who like growing up listening to music? Who was like
Speaker 1: on your music? Mount Rushmore? Gucci, Man, that's my favorite rapper, Gucci.
Speaker 1: Gucci is probably the most I mean arguably most influential
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Speaker 1: Trina shout out to the battlest bitch Jackie Yo. Jackieyo
Speaker 1: does not get enough love. They don't jam. I lived
Speaker 1: in Tampa for a few years, but I'm from Phoenix.
Speaker 1: But I know Jackie Oh yeah, because I would say
Speaker 1: Jackie Oo is a Florida thing, Yo, jack Jackie Yo,
Speaker 1: and two more Uh Nicki Minaj once you know we
Speaker 1: got in high school, Nikki had all us acting like barbies,
Speaker 1: especially with me, and were you kind of a barbe?
Speaker 1: Of course? Well I made I had to. I was
Speaker 1: still like in high school. I was still like in
Speaker 1: a closet. So I made all of my homegirls, like
Speaker 1: everybody had a dress like Nikki and I thoughted as
Speaker 1: a group, we was called Ken and the Dolls. I
Speaker 1: was kidding, they was the dolls. So you made them
Speaker 1: all dressed like how you kind of wanted to dress. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm living through y'all. So you gotta get the Nicki
Speaker 1: Minaj bang with the black and pink hair like. I
Speaker 1: made all of them dressed like barbiees Shi. It was
Speaker 1: so funny. Are you still a barb? Yeah? Okay, I
Speaker 1: love Nikki? Still a barb? Who else I listened to
Speaker 1: growing up? You know? One more we got Nikki Jackie,
Speaker 1: oh and uh and Gucci? Those are those are? That's
Speaker 1: three good ones? Future Future Future the greatest club artists
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Speaker 1: love about Gucci Gucci brought out Future Migos all the
Speaker 1: niggas like all the all them walker, all them down
Speaker 1: listening to Gucci was throwing them on features way back
Speaker 1: in the days when we didn't even know who they was.
Speaker 1: People don't know like even like somebody like the Migos,
Speaker 1: like he could have signed them if you want to, Yes, Gucci,
Speaker 1: That's how I got introduced to the Migos. I remember
Speaker 1: they I was being sounds with Gucci. Yeah, are you
Speaker 1: currently like in Atlanta? You still in Florida? Were you
Speaker 1: at live in Atlanta? How is Atlanta? Like? I've been there?
Speaker 1: I love it there by the way, It's great Atlanta.
Speaker 1: I went during the pandemic and it was, you know,
Speaker 1: from one man, I loved by Atlanta. We ain't we
Speaker 1: ain't do We didn't believe in the pandemic exactly. That's
Speaker 1: why I liked it. Everybody can Atlanta cover And then
Speaker 1: went back home because I've been I've been in there.
Speaker 1: I was. I was in l A going crazy and
Speaker 1: we went to Atlanta for like a week and I
Speaker 1: was like, this is this is different Atlana was everything
Speaker 1: was up in the Script club everything, no masks, no
Speaker 1: nothing like we was outside. It was so funny. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh my God, this is the only place
Speaker 1: in the world that's outside. It was amazing. It was
Speaker 1: lit Atlanta. But you know, I feel like I growed
Speaker 1: Atlanta a living I'm finn to move to La. La.
Speaker 1: Will be prepared if a pandemic comes back. Your ass
Speaker 1: is gonna be mashed up. Oh trust me. Don't think
Speaker 1: I ain't keeping my crib in Atlanta. I'll be gone.
Speaker 1: So you might be moving to La. Everyone moves to La. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come out here. I got a lot of
Speaker 1: work care you know. I traveled with a big team,
Speaker 1: my security go everywhere with me. You know, my road manager,
Speaker 1: my out of manager, my my brother who is my
Speaker 1: DJ and producer I can't remember. It's like I got
Speaker 1: a crew. That's a lot. Yeah, so that's a lot.
Speaker 1: You know, your dancers all that. So it's a lot
Speaker 1: bringing everybody with you, getting all these different hotels and
Speaker 1: l you know, it'd be like a lot of It's
Speaker 1: a lot of opportunity, that tip of Like when I
Speaker 1: first went to Atlanta, it was opportunity to me at
Speaker 1: the artist I was there. Now now all of my
Speaker 1: opportunities are here, and you know, you broke I feel
Speaker 1: like you broke through, and I feel like once you
Speaker 1: break through, like you at least got to be in
Speaker 1: l a little bit more. Yeah, you got to cause
Speaker 1: you know, stuff is sparta moment here, so you might
Speaker 1: have somebody hit you and be like yo man on
Speaker 1: the studio, she said, I pull up. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I could be the first thing in the morning. I
Speaker 1: I gotta fly out to Sauni Arabia. Literally when I
Speaker 1: tell every artist that's like. I got an artist who's
Speaker 1: from who lives in Missouri and he was in LA
Speaker 1: for a little bit, but he couldn't afford to stay
Speaker 1: out here. And I was like, figure it out because
Speaker 1: there's opportunities like that pop up last minute. Yes, you're
Speaker 1: gonna be fucked out of those. You're going to be
Speaker 1: because like right now, you want to vibe people and
Speaker 1: being a vibe in a moment. And then they got
Speaker 1: Mike got a flight the next day, and it's like,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna spend a block on you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it never ever happens. I swear to god, Nikki
Speaker 1: DM me one time and was like you in l A.
Speaker 1: I was like, no, I'm in Atlanta, but I could come.
Speaker 1: I could get there, and she was like, Okay, I'm like, dang,
Speaker 1: I want to watch she asked me because she lives here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she lived here, so but I know that. So I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: I want to watch Nikki DM. Yeah, so did you
Speaker 1: get I would have been like I'm in LA. I wasn't, though,
Speaker 1: so I could lie like fuck Dad, I'd be like,
Speaker 1: where's the airport? Take me to the airport. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: it's like now saying and now I say, man, and
Speaker 1: she like pull up. Now. It's like I'll be there
Speaker 1: in four and a half hours. We gotta figure that
Speaker 1: ship out. Yeah. So it was like I was like, dang, okay,
Speaker 1: what you gotta do is when you finally get your house,
Speaker 1: go back to the d MS and say, hey, heads up,
Speaker 1: I live here now, I live here a shower, and
Speaker 1: then just send her this clip. Yeah you say you're
Speaker 1: a bar and you had a whole rap group? Nick? No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you know, but me and Nikki follow each other. Me, Nick,
Speaker 1: does she know that you had the high school group? Yes? Nikki?
Speaker 1: Like Nikki now every kid and the dolls? Yes, Nikki. No,
Speaker 1: like me, and Nikki is like this like she's the goat,
Speaker 1: She's the greatest female rapper of all time. Yeah, for
Speaker 1: shout tell me. Obviously we're in La West. Hollywood is
Speaker 1: a popping gay area. The clubs there are insane. If
Speaker 1: you like drive in that area. It's like, it's trust me,
Speaker 1: I've seen that. I had to perform at we Help right,
Speaker 1: how was it? It was it? What's the what's the better?
Speaker 1: See partying gay clubs here Atlanta? I feel like they're
Speaker 1: way different Atlanta. But I'm not really heavy in gay
Speaker 1: clubs like party scene. I like strip clubs. Youd rather
Speaker 1: go to the strip club? Yes, I love Cheetahs. Cheetahs
Speaker 1: out here. Chesus is solid. It is a good cheatas Yeah,
Speaker 1: ball at Cheetahs male strip club Now they're probably gross, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't like that. I like I like BBS. You
Speaker 1: like the BBLS. Nice shout out to the BBLS. I feel. Yo.
Speaker 1: I was in the Dominican Republic and we're flying back
Speaker 1: and there was at least four women on the plane
Speaker 1: that were like on wheelchairs. Uh huh going over there
Speaker 1: to get that body snatched up? I said, ship, I said,
Speaker 1: at least hang out out here for like a week
Speaker 1: and and and let the swelling go down, No baby
Speaker 1: gone our dudes, bbls. I just saw a band mode
Speaker 1: bandman Kevo got his body done. Dudes, get well, gay
Speaker 1: boys get bbls now. Dudes, you're timmy gay guys to
Speaker 1: get the fake ass. Yeah you've seen this. I got one.
Speaker 1: You got a BBL Your cheeks are? Is there a
Speaker 1: fat reassignment? What is going on? They just take it.
Speaker 1: They just take it from your stomach and your waist
Speaker 1: and just put it in the bad put your ass
Speaker 1: and hips. So you got the BBO popping? Where'd you
Speaker 1: go to get it done? Showski Miami? Was it painful? Nah? Wow,
Speaker 1: it's not. It's really not. Like you just wake up.
Speaker 1: You kind of store a little bit and then like
Speaker 1: you can't sit out of your butt for like four
Speaker 1: to six weeks. I broke my tailbone when I was
Speaker 1: in elementary school and I had to sit on a donut.
Speaker 1: Uh huh. Yeah, that's saying they eat like a little
Speaker 1: you get like a little donut or they get like
Speaker 1: a little a little thing that's like you could sit,
Speaker 1: but your butt doesn't sit on the seat whenever you're
Speaker 1: sitting down. Well, yeah, I saw you torking on stage.
Speaker 1: Uh unapologetically as you should at rolling out. Uh huh.
Speaker 1: And I was like, shit, man, dudes got cheeks. Pause,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, dude's got some cheeks. So
Speaker 1: so at least we know now that you went and
Speaker 1: got them things situated. Uho for show. But most men
Speaker 1: like surgery is so normal now. Of course they just
Speaker 1: going to get abs and getting a fat sup down
Speaker 1: and all kinds of stuff. For sure. I just saw.
Speaker 1: You know, we do a radio show every day, so
Speaker 1: obviously you know the Hollywood and locks and shade rooms,
Speaker 1: there's this there's like a dick surgery now where you
Speaker 1: can get your dick extended for real. Yeah. I can't
Speaker 1: even imagine how crazy it was. Do remember they had
Speaker 1: the dick pump? Oh yeah, yeah, that's from like the
Speaker 1: nineties for real. My uncle had one. I tried one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had one. How does it work? When I was
Speaker 1: like nineteen, when me and my baby mama went to
Speaker 1: the porn store for the first time, I was like,
Speaker 1: let me try this thing. Let me tell you doesn't
Speaker 1: really wurk. I mean for a second. Oh shit, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: It's like it just sucks your dick pause, like you
Speaker 1: like pump it you like pump it and then like
Speaker 1: your dick gets bigger in this tube and then like
Speaker 1: you take it all. It's not comfortable. But I only
Speaker 1: did it once I was a kid. Yeah, yeah, definitely not.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't suggest that. I wouldn't suggest getting this done,
Speaker 1: getting the surgery. That. How about you just you got
Speaker 1: what you got, what you got, work what you what
Speaker 1: you got? For sure? The size matter not to me,
Speaker 1: not to you. There it is, I don't know, you
Speaker 1: know your perspective. Some ladies would say it doesn't matter. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's got the emtional you're on Miami would say. She
Speaker 1: would say it matters. She's dating Diddy ish Yeah, it's no,
Speaker 1: it's really she really does. She does date him. She's
Speaker 1: got a great show. I love her new show is
Speaker 1: so good. Yeah, that confirmed that, you know on the
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Speaker 1: you had any famous guys slide in your dms? Like
Speaker 1: on the low Ski Broski Like, uh yeah, but I
Speaker 1: don't get into that. No, you're not going to tell
Speaker 1: us who it is. I wouldn't expect you to do that.
Speaker 1: That's just people business. But hell yeah, niggas is yeah
Speaker 1: all of time. That's I mean. Man, listen, you're a
Speaker 1: very successful artist. The music is dope, the booty record
Speaker 1: is going up. You haven't dropped an album in a
Speaker 1: couple of years, so when is is this album? So?
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's what we right now. We're in a
Speaker 1: creative process. I'm figuring out you know what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 1: you know, I have a lot of new fans now,
Speaker 1: so I want to you know, explore new styles and stuff,
Speaker 1: you know, reaching out to just everybody, but still staying
Speaker 1: true to myself, Still stay true to my fans and
Speaker 1: what they want to hear. So we're just going through
Speaker 1: the creative process, figuring out which artists dound good on,
Speaker 1: what records and different things like that. How many records
Speaker 1: you're sitting on right now? I got so many damn songs.
Speaker 1: That's what I do they the phone is ringing right now.
Speaker 1: They want me to come to the fucking studio when
Speaker 1: I finished this. So every time I'm in La we
Speaker 1: in the studio, you're working NonStop. Are you? Are you
Speaker 1: the type of person who has to write thrown shit?
Speaker 1: Do you get help with the writing or you open
Speaker 1: to both things? I opened the both now. I opened
Speaker 1: the both when I started seeing our favorite motherfucking songs
Speaker 1: that we think somebody works so hard on all that,
Speaker 1: and when you go read the credits and it's like
Speaker 1: staging people. So I'm like, hey, you ain't write that shit,
Speaker 1: but we fuck with it and we love it like
Speaker 1: you wrote it. We don't give a fuck. So now
Speaker 1: I just had to growth to that because once I
Speaker 1: had first started rapping, I felt like I had so
Speaker 1: much to prove, and I felt like I was a
Speaker 1: new rapper and I was gay. I was like, my
Speaker 1: first three projects, you wrote it all. I wrote it all.
Speaker 1: I wrote it all. My next hit, we just did
Speaker 1: a song I Feel Good. When I was in Atlanti,
Speaker 1: me and my brother trade tracks. I wrote the whole
Speaker 1: song wow featuring material Girl, the whole song. That's that's
Speaker 1: your biggest record, right, Yes, but here I brought that
Speaker 1: whole one sire song top to bottom. So it's like
Speaker 1: I just but I just realized now with like in music,
Speaker 1: everybody like just rap. Okay, you can know how to rap,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, but you know what hit
Speaker 1: is a hit? Were you nervous to do your freshman freestyle?
Speaker 1: Hell yeah? All of us was, yeah, well you gotta
Speaker 1: do freshman. You go there that morning. First of all,
Speaker 1: all of us have to agree on the beat. Okay,
Speaker 1: so everyone's got to be like yes. Everyone's got to
Speaker 1: be like yes, and if you ask, don't say yes
Speaker 1: and you get out numbered. Yes it's grads. Okay. So well,
Speaker 1: y'all have to agree on the beat that morning. You
Speaker 1: have to do a freestyle a cipher. So those already
Speaker 1: two raps, different raps. They have an ABC segment, they
Speaker 1: have a re read hateful comments segment. Long day, you
Speaker 1: have to do photo shoots. So it's a long guy
Speaker 1: dam day. And the type of me, I'll get ready
Speaker 1: like a girl, so I have to hear glam, makeup done,
Speaker 1: all that shit. You go do your different You gotta
Speaker 1: have like three four hours. It's different photo shoots and
Speaker 1: all that. So you're doing photo shoots throughout the day,
Speaker 1: different content pieces, and it's trying to write two raps
Speaker 1: that you gotta goddamn remember, right, and you gotta kill it,
Speaker 1: and you gotta kill it. Yeah. So it's like you
Speaker 1: kind of you kind of right. You gotta recite and rap,
Speaker 1: Like if I listen to it, if I listen to
Speaker 1: my favorite song ten times, I could rap it better
Speaker 1: that ten times than when the first time I heard it.
Speaker 1: So it's like you kind of gotta go out there
Speaker 1: and wrap your ship with confidence, like you popping your
Speaker 1: ship knowing then when your head you don't even got there,
Speaker 1: remember the lyrics because you just wrote that ship, right,
Speaker 1: And you gotta remember too. You gotta remember your freestyle,
Speaker 1: and you gotta remember the cipher. Yeah, crazy, Who are
Speaker 1: you in the cipher with? It? Was me? Do? She don't?
Speaker 1: She is dope as head? But K C. Case Casey,
Speaker 1: New York. I think from Jersey somewhere up there, and
Speaker 1: I forgot the other boy name? Were you? Like? Thanks?
Speaker 1: Sometimes we hear stories people do the freshman shoot and
Speaker 1: then collaborations end up happening after because you hang out
Speaker 1: with them all day. Was there anybody who you linked
Speaker 1: up with who you kind of caught a vibe with
Speaker 1: there on Tampa. Yeah, that's so funny because I I
Speaker 1: looked at doult Is like a pop like kind of
Speaker 1: popping and then we was added thing. She was like
Speaker 1: push that out. I was like, Oh, Florida, you're from Florida.
Speaker 1: That's Florida puts the house. Yeah, Florida and is I
Speaker 1: know jis a Florida thing, but it's like Tallahassee Florida thing. Like,
Speaker 1: what's that? Does it get I'm saying, does it get
Speaker 1: up to Tallahassee because I know it's like heavy like
Speaker 1: in the Tampa area. What's is that? That's my je Tallahassee? Also,
Speaker 1: uh T Pains from there? Yeah, you should link with
Speaker 1: have you met tea Pain yet? I never met you.
Speaker 1: Ay should do a song together, but we know he
Speaker 1: from Haste. Yeah, you gotta do it. He need lives
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. Hey give me I would have paint producer song?
Speaker 1: Which one I would have produce a song for me?
Speaker 1: You don't give me a T Paint feature. You wouldn't
Speaker 1: let him, You wouldn't let him do a hook. You're
Speaker 1: saying no to the T Paints. Give me producer song.
Speaker 1: T Pang write the song for me, creative director, and
Speaker 1: you won't let him be on the hook. It's T Pain.
Speaker 1: It's T Pain, Okay, producers, She's like, I don't give
Speaker 1: a fun produce the song, Like who got a song
Speaker 1: with T pa? But I think that some people are
Speaker 1: like behind the scenes kind of people like I been
Speaker 1: like T Paint had a long ass on T Pain
Speaker 1: got millions of records. So I know that that's the
Speaker 1: top five song on radio about six months ago. Oh
Speaker 1: what song it's called? I like that. I I never
Speaker 1: heard it. It's a It was T Paint feature in
Speaker 1: kay Lannie. It was like number it hit number two.
Speaker 1: Rhythm you heard it? I only say this is that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Are you are you telling us that he definitely heard
Speaker 1: the fucking record? Yeah? Anyway, we got to hear it anyway,
Speaker 1: how you see it? I like that runing nothing drinks,
Speaker 1: she got money in the bank. What do you think
Speaker 1: that it's it's anyway turn it down the Paint feature.
Speaker 1: Now he pain't write my song and produce it. There
Speaker 1: it is. We gotta get Nikki on the record with you.
Speaker 1: I gotta get on that. You gotta make that happen.
Speaker 1: You already got Lotto big Lotto, biggies, any other features that.
Speaker 1: What about Trina man, Yes, Trina, I want to do.
Speaker 1: I want to do. I want to do a song
Speaker 1: with Trina for the culture, you know, people who are
Speaker 1: kind of outside of like uh, like Trina is like
Speaker 1: really big in the gay community. Yes, she is fucking lit. Yes,
Speaker 1: legendary in the gay community. Legend And for me, I
Speaker 1: want to do. I want to do a song with
Speaker 1: Trina because me growing up, like even though I'm originally
Speaker 1: from up North, and I remember, like, you know how
Speaker 1: the difference between living up north and living down South,
Speaker 1: I really was older, like from being ten to all
Speaker 1: the way, my whole adulthood was Florida. So Trina was
Speaker 1: my little Kim. You know, when you grow up up north,
Speaker 1: they had little Kim as well. You know, Trina was
Speaker 1: running ship yeah, but down South we had Trina, Trina
Speaker 1: the mother of Miami. Yeah. So I just feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of my music is Florida bass.
Speaker 1: I would consider myself like, you know, Florida Girl, Florida Water,
Speaker 1: because that's a lot of stuff that I go upon
Speaker 1: when I was a kid, when I lived up north,
Speaker 1: so I was just sure it is a wild place. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was listening to pop music when I was up North,
Speaker 1: like Britney Spears and Ship. I was a kid. Shout
Speaker 1: out to Brittany, So that's what was like going to school,
Speaker 1: t I Rail and all that. Wan six a part
Speaker 1: a little bad like that. Shout to bow Wow. That
Speaker 1: was a Rand one six in Park. I feel like
Speaker 1: he owned When I was a kid. I thought he
Speaker 1: owned bet Yeah, because I was like, God, damn this,
Speaker 1: I ain't love Hot one on six and Park. Every
Speaker 1: week his video is always number one. Yeah, even the
Speaker 1: Ship That Sucked, Uh huh. Jesus So album on the way,
Speaker 1: you're working on it, the new singles out featuring Lotto, Yeah,
Speaker 1: anything else you're getting into, any acting, any TV stuff
Speaker 1: have gone to our Lizzo. You and Liz are going
Speaker 1: on tour. Shout to Lizzo. Shout out to Motherfucking's that's huge.
Speaker 1: She's wildly challenging me. And Madonna's song Material Girl Remix
Speaker 1: about to come out. You got a song with Madonna? Yes,
Speaker 1: of course, I didn't know that. We did a Material
Speaker 1: Girl remix and we performed it and and I performed
Speaker 1: it with her New York Pride. Was she cool like
Speaker 1: a fucking rock star? Madonna is so cool and solely
Speaker 1: and Madonna is a boss. I mean, she's fucking fucking quean.
Speaker 1: Do you ask your questions like about like some of
Speaker 1: like like the eighties and Ship, I'd be like, yo,
Speaker 1: like I was, I would have I just you know,
Speaker 1: found you. I'm like, yo, how was Dennis Rodman was
Speaker 1: a good? Like it was so funny, like I just
Speaker 1: like it was just being right? How you just bad?
Speaker 1: Like we like in the studio, she like, think, I
Speaker 1: want a rock hard Should I say that? I'm like, yoh, Ship,
Speaker 1: Like Madonna said that, yeah. It was it was something.
Speaker 1: It was it was it was doing the remis and
Speaker 1: she was like something something I want to rock hard
Speaker 1: Dick and I just bust out of I was like, oh, Ship,
Speaker 1: Like this lady is literay. She was like, should I
Speaker 1: say that? I was like, I feel like she. I
Speaker 1: feel like she's definitely going through like a patch in
Speaker 1: life where she's like on her young girl. Should again?
Speaker 1: I love I love Madonna. She loves peppermint steamer. So
Speaker 1: you have whatever room She's saying, you have to have
Speaker 1: a peppermint, peppermint. Ah. I know how she smells. She
Speaker 1: smells good. If I smell, I like Madonna smell like that.
Speaker 1: I can remember out of just I forgot the name.
Speaker 1: She's cool as ship and she worked hard as hell
Speaker 1: like us going to rehearsals together, like Madonna coming and
Speaker 1: rehearsal with heels on and long gans, blowing hair and
Speaker 1: her makeup down. I'm like with her little outfit. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, this lady's still a motherfucking rock star. It was.
Speaker 1: It was an experience. Shout out to Madonna. That's a
Speaker 1: big deal. Not a lot of barely anyone has records.
Speaker 1: That's what I said. I was like, Yo, you know,
Speaker 1: I know people that have been wrapping for so long
Speaker 1: that jay Z might be the last person who had
Speaker 1: a Madonna feature or was I didn't, I didn't Champagne
Speaker 1: Champagne Rose didn't hear that one? Was that on a
Speaker 1: Cubo solo album? Yeah, not the best album, So I
Speaker 1: probably pasted MO saying yeah, I remember that song. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm like, I had to. I
Speaker 1: had to sit down and think, I'm like, you know
Speaker 1: how many people been wrapping up for so long? You
Speaker 1: never even God even she has a smell Madonna, and
Speaker 1: I was right there, she's crazy, shout out to Madonna.
Speaker 1: That's what's she goes by M. Now it's so funny.
Speaker 1: She doesn't my Madonna's M. You're in the car, M.
Speaker 1: That's interesting. When we were it's like, am you know
Speaker 1: you're famous? If you could just go by a letter,
Speaker 1: she got a big M ring. Nobody got on Madonna,
Speaker 1: I felt, but I was like, I don't know if
Speaker 1: I could call another human M if I know if
Speaker 1: you're Madonna. I'm like, you're Madonna. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But it's like everybody's like, EM, you're kind of late
Speaker 1: in the game. And once to don that MS ready
Speaker 1: to leave, EM said she could come in now. Oh sure,
Speaker 1: I bet she's She probably moves that way right. No
Speaker 1: jokes that I need my peppermint steamer in the studio,
Speaker 1: like this is what we're doing. I need this kind
Speaker 1: of water. Yes, don't funk with me, fuck with M.
Speaker 1: Bitch on Madonna. That's fire there it is. I can't
Speaker 1: wait to be like that. Well, listen, man, I appreciate
Speaker 1: you coming through that last question. If you could, if
Speaker 1: there was any girl in the world who's so fine
Speaker 1: that it's made you think about, like, shit, I don't
Speaker 1: know about this gay ship, which which one is it? Miami,
Speaker 1: Young Miami. I respect that. Oh yeah, good choice, good choice.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Young Miami. There it is Saucy Santana
Speaker 1: in the building. Who leg keV Show