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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. Puts up everybody,

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Speaker 1: It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fired. For Tuesday, January five.

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Speaker 1: It was a weird Monday night in sports, wasn't it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, no Monday night football. Uh no, Thursday night

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Speaker 1: football in the horizon. We gotta wait till the weekend

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Speaker 1: for more football. Um. It should be a good one though,

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Speaker 1: very excited for the playoff games coming up, so I

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Speaker 1: had to um wet my beak with some NBA and

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Speaker 1: college hoops. College basketball just a little difficult to get

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Speaker 1: into it still given the COVID issues, but at least

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Speaker 1: there will be college basketball March Madness. Apparently it's all

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Speaker 1: gonna happen in the state of Indiana. Um. It's still

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Speaker 1: three months away, so I can't really think too much

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Speaker 1: by saying, we have an outstanding guest coming up. Listen.

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Speaker 1: When somebody I know comes me on social media disagreeing

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Speaker 1: about something I'm not gonna talk about on social media,

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Speaker 1: come on my podcast. Let's discuss. So George Sadano, a

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Speaker 1: guy I've known for a little while, good guy, good dude, UM,

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Speaker 1: lives out here. Near me in Los Angeles, and I've

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Speaker 1: seen him in a couple of Laker games, and um,

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Speaker 1: I thought we'd chopped up the Miami Dolphins if you

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Speaker 1: Joy Taylor and I, we uh George and I really

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Speaker 1: dove deep into the to a situation. It's complicated, but

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Speaker 1: it's a good discussion. I think you'll like it. I quickly, though,

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Speaker 1: before we get into that. And as much as I

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Speaker 1: want to talk about the New York Knicks, I'm reluctant

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Speaker 1: to because it's still early. The Knicks hell of a

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Speaker 1: comeback to take down the Atlanta Hawks. Um, I'm shocked,

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Speaker 1: but we can't get into the next come on, it's

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Speaker 1: two weeks in. It's the NBA. Weird things happen early.

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Speaker 1: I will say, keep an eye on the Sixers. Sixers

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Speaker 1: look really good. We gave that out as a futures bet.

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Speaker 1: This is a bet on team. The Sixers are cooking

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Speaker 1: with gas right now. But I want to quickly get

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Speaker 1: to the NFL. And a bunch of guys are asking

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Speaker 1: me so Jason, I know you're all about the Jets.

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Speaker 1: Where do they rank when it comes to the best

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Speaker 1: coaching jobs? And there are currently six black Monday yesterday

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Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn get canned in l A Chargers looking for

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Speaker 1: a new coach. I think we all expected that. If

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Speaker 1: you watched any Chargers football this year, you knew that

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Speaker 1: was coming. So currently, as it sits this morning, Houston Texans,

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Speaker 1: New York Jets, Chargers, Lions, Falcons, and Jaguars all have

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Speaker 1: head coaching openings. Now we could still see the Bengals

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Speaker 1: I thought i'd rank them currently from six to one

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Speaker 1: based on most attract of job. If somebody came to

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Speaker 1: me and said, hey, j you know your NBA is good,

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Speaker 1: but your NFL, oh my gosh, we love your NFL stuff.

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Speaker 1: We want you to coach our team. Obviously that's not happening.

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Speaker 1: I would love to work in the front office at

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Speaker 1: some point. UM. You are seeing by the way some

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Speaker 1: analytics based folks take jobs in MLB front offices. UM, NBA,

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Speaker 1: College basketball, U NBA. It's starting to happen. UM, college football. Recently,

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Speaker 1: I had had one some guy from to four seven

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Speaker 1: really cool, Like I'm mixed. That stuff gets me excited,

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Speaker 1: you know, more power to the little guy. Um, we're

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Speaker 1: looking at things different ways, not necessarily changing the sport,

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Speaker 1: here's how I would rank the six coaching openings. I'll

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Speaker 1: start with number six. This is no no surprise to anybody.

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans. Yes they have Deshaun Watson, but there is

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Speaker 1: nothing else on that team. Go look at the roster, folks.

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Speaker 1: It is really bad. The GM Bill O'Brien, he was

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Speaker 1: handing out bad contracts like Halloween Candy. I mean, Randall Cobb,

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Speaker 1: I know you can sell Deshaun Watson all day, but

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Speaker 1: there's not much else. I mean, look at the defense.

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Speaker 1: It is historically bad. They're gonna need the jaws of

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Speaker 1: If you look back on this podcast, I've said Watsons

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Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien just total clown show. Texans sixth most attractive job.

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Speaker 1: There's less talent on this roster than the New York Jets.

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Speaker 1: Number five the Atlanta Falcons. I'm sure I'll get some

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Speaker 1: Jets have seventy mill in cap space. That's really impressive.

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Speaker 1: The Jets have a chance to turn it around quicker

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Speaker 1: from whoever they pick as head coach. I trust Joe Douglas.

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Speaker 1: to injuries, so you need a capable backup. Okay. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: everyone lauded um the Dallas Cowboys for bringing in Andy

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Speaker 1: Dalton behind Dak Prescott. Now it didn't work out. There's

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Speaker 1: a litany of reasons why that didn't work out, But

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Speaker 1: I don't think it was all necessarily on Andy Dalton, um.

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Speaker 1: But I think it's important to have a good backup

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Speaker 1: and a mentor for Tua. I think that that stuff

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Speaker 1: goes a really long way, and there's not enough of

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Speaker 1: that in the league. And at least when I was

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Speaker 1: growing up watching the eighties and nineties, there was way

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Speaker 1: more of that stuff when it came to the quarterback

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Speaker 1: position in the National Football League. And and again like

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Speaker 1: those guy were cool with it, like they understood what

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Speaker 1: the deal was. So if you have something like that

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Speaker 1: that's harmonious, I think that you have to consider bringing

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Speaker 1: that whole situation back if you can. But here's the

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Speaker 1: one thing about to a right you mentioned, the pulling

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Speaker 1: him from games or whatever. I don't know about you, Jason,

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Speaker 1: but I can only apply. I've never played quarterback in

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Speaker 1: the National Football League. Hell I occasionally have played quarterback

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Speaker 1: in my Turkey Bowl, you know. But what I'd say

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Speaker 1: is in life, whether it was something in school as

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Speaker 1: I was growing up, or even in this business, there

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Speaker 1: have been things in my life where their adjustments have

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Speaker 1: been made on the fly and maybe my role wasn't

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Speaker 1: as prominent as it was. And what I've done is

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Speaker 1: sit back, observe, reassess and understand what could I have

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Speaker 1: done differently that would not that the next time potentially

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Speaker 1: will not allow that to happen again. And when you're young,

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Speaker 1: sometimes you need more than lesson in life, especially when

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Speaker 1: you're a young quarterback seeing things that you've never seen before.

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Speaker 1: Because let's face him, college defenses are nowhere near as

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Speaker 1: intricate as NFL defenses, which is why the supporting cast

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Speaker 1: is so important around a quarterback. So when you mentioned Burrow,

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Speaker 1: you mentioned Herbert. We can't just discount the fact that

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Speaker 1: there's skilled position players are either really really good, some

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Speaker 1: even elite, but at the best, at worst, excuse me,

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Speaker 1: their average. He doesn't even have average players at those positions.

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Speaker 1: His wide receiving group third most drops in the NFL

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Speaker 1: this year. Okay, they had in yards after the catch.

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Speaker 1: I mean they don't help him in any way, shape

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Speaker 1: or form. This is a kid that a guy like

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Speaker 1: Trent Dilford, who's on your network a ton with Colin,

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Speaker 1: talks about how he's the next true breeze right to

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Speaker 1: a tug of Byla because of because of his accuracy

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Speaker 1: right and and and look, I actually see a lot

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Speaker 1: of parallels. I know, you him and Hall and say, ah,

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Speaker 1: come on, that's a little bit. That's a bridge too far.

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Speaker 1: Why why do you remember the beginning of it wasn't

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Speaker 1: the beginning was was a challenge. But I think he

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Speaker 1: got his new legs when he went to the Saints.

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Speaker 1: Ter was Sean Payton. Now you did say something interesting,

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Speaker 1: like in life, you learn these lessons and it may

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Speaker 1: suck at the time, but you need it. I think

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Speaker 1: we all go through that. But my only difference with

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Speaker 1: the quarterback is there's ten other guys on the offense

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Speaker 1: and eleven on the defense. Who when Fitzpatrick came in

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Speaker 1: against Denver and then against Vegas, I wonder if it's

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Speaker 1: set the precedent, and none of us can answer that.

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Speaker 1: You really have to be in the locker room going

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Speaker 1: forward anytime they're down seven, if two A fails on

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Speaker 1: a couple of possessions, hey let's get to the bullpen.

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Speaker 1: We gotta win this game. Like it does that does

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Speaker 1: that creep into the locker room and become a thing,

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Speaker 1: Hey two us fine when we're leading or close game,

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Speaker 1: but if we're behind, we need to go to the closer.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know long term if that would work

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Speaker 1: of working long term, But in the guys made nine starts,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like, that's the other thing,

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Speaker 1: Like we've seen so many george young quarterbacks excel right

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Speaker 1: out of the gate, to Shaun Watson's gett into the playoff,

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Speaker 1: mahomes in in his first year goes what m v

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Speaker 1: P and then Super Bowl and best record in the league. Again,

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Speaker 1: I mean Josh Allen wait, wait, wait, Jason Jason Patrick

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Speaker 1: Mahomes took over a team that was already a playoff team.

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Speaker 1: He didn't. He did not take over a team that

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Speaker 1: was a disaster like Jo had. Nine teams passed on him.

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Speaker 1: I believe that he's like that in the draft. I

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Speaker 1: get it. And by the way he sat too, he

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Speaker 1: didn't play right away either. He said I was in

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Speaker 1: favor of sitting to all season. It's documented. You know,

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Speaker 1: nowadays we could document stuff on social media. So is

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Speaker 1: that a GM thing? Is the GM saying, listen, we

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Speaker 1: drafted to a let's get him out here? Or do

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Speaker 1: you think they saw Burrow and Herbert cooking and dominating

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Speaker 1: and being like, yeah, we gotta get our guy in there. Um.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that had anything to do with it.

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Speaker 1: I think they're on their own timeline. And again, justin

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Speaker 1: Herbert has a guy and Keenan Allen who's a four,

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Speaker 1: four or five time Pro bowler. Right, Mike Williams was

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Speaker 1: a thousand yard receiver last year. Austin Ekeler even in

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Speaker 1: you know, he was like a part time running back

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Speaker 1: last year receptions for nine six yards. Again, those are

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Speaker 1: all legitimate weapons. TWA has none of that. The Dolphins

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Speaker 1: are still in a rebuild their way ahead of schedule,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's what everyone needs to grasp. So

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Speaker 1: at three, do you want to go with the kid

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Speaker 1: Panay Sue Well, I think I said his name correctly

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Speaker 1: from Oregon? Or do you want to say, hey, let's

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Speaker 1: get this guy an elite weapon Devonte Smith from Alabama.

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Speaker 1: He's I mean, I love the guy obviously, but I

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Speaker 1: think he's like six six ft six one. He's got

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Speaker 1: one of these big strapping dudes. Or maybe Jamaar Chase

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Speaker 1: from l s U. Do you want to protect to

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Speaker 1: it or get him a weapon? So I think that

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Speaker 1: those are the three guys you're looking at. If it

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Speaker 1: were me, right, I think what I do honestly, I

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Speaker 1: since you have three and eighteen, I think you can

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Speaker 1: get both. You can get the guy to protect him

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Speaker 1: in sewal right at three, and at eighteen you can

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Speaker 1: get him Waddle perhaps right if Jalen Wattle is there,

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Speaker 1: people people forget he was actually the best receiver on

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Speaker 1: Alabama prior to injury and the most explosive and the

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Speaker 1: most dynamic. No disrespected Dubante Smith, but Waddle, because of

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Speaker 1: the injury, could fall into that middle of the of

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Speaker 1: the first round range, you could potentially solve both those

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Speaker 1: issues for him and then get a running back with

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Speaker 1: the Texans pick, which is early in the second round.

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Speaker 1: I think the third pick in the second round. Let

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Speaker 1: me a final question on two. I'm sure people are,

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Speaker 1: you know, upset that we're spending so much time on

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Speaker 1: this guy, but I think this is an interesting story

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Speaker 1: heading into the off season. Any concern at all that

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Speaker 1: no Alabama quarterback has really broken through into the NFL

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Speaker 1: and there's a chance, and I've said this about Ohio

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Speaker 1: State quarterbacks, they are just surrounded by so much five

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Speaker 1: star talent, elite coaching that they get to the NFL

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Speaker 1: and if they don't have that incredible support system, it

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Speaker 1: can be a little difficult. Because if you remember a J.

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Speaker 1: McCarron came out and I think he was the third

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Speaker 1: round pick, but a lot of people said, hey, this

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Speaker 1: guy could be a starter. I mean, it's pretty clear

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Speaker 1: in the NFL he is definitely a backup. Um any

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Speaker 1: thoughts on that on regarding to UH, I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: I have thoughts on that. I think that that you know,

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Speaker 1: you can make the case for that and almost any

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Speaker 1: big time school with quarterbacks coming out right, Like, look

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Speaker 1: at USC's history, right, Matt Miner is an example. Mark Sanchez,

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Speaker 1: your boy, Mark Sanchez is an example of that. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know we've seen Ohio State. You mentioned Dwayne Haskins.

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Speaker 1: I mean Urban Meyer did very did the same thing

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Speaker 1: that Pete Carroll did when he talked about Mark Sanchez.

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Speaker 1: Don't know if he's ready from a maturity standpoint, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. Um,

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Speaker 1: So I do worry about that. Hell, I worry about

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Speaker 1: that with Trevor Lawrence a little WoT I do you really?

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Speaker 1: You guys are so in love with Trevor Lawrence. I

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Speaker 1: see a kid who's really talented. But do I see

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Speaker 1: a kid that you can put him in any situation

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Speaker 1: tomorrow Jacksonville or the Jets or whoever. And all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, that team is a playoff team, Like is

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Speaker 1: he Andrew Luck? To me, no, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: he's that well Andrew Luck? Things interesting, didn't They go

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Speaker 1: like eleven and five with Peyton? Then he got hurt?

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Speaker 1: They went like one in fifteen and then Andrew Luck

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Speaker 1: came and they so you go like eleven and five

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Speaker 1: one in fifteen, eleven and five. Like Jacksonville is total garbage,

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Speaker 1: but they do have some players on that team. Their

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Speaker 1: receivers are not awful, The running back look good. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the defense is total trash. But I think this could

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Speaker 1: be a six win team with Trevor Lawrence and if

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Speaker 1: you get the right coach, I mean, we get Urban

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Speaker 1: Meyer in there. I personally don't think that will happen.

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Speaker 1: But if you land him or some offensive mind, why

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Speaker 1: can't Trevor Lawrence be in the playoffs by year two? Maybe?

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Speaker 1: But my point is I don't know he's we can

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Speaker 1: I can make that same case though, that same argument

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Speaker 1: that he's surrounded by ridiculous talent um across the board,

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Speaker 1: that's first and second round talent, right that that you know,

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Speaker 1: are they propping him up like some of these quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: you're talking about. We don't know. We assume we know,

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Speaker 1: but until we see him play an actual NFL game

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Speaker 1: or a series of games, um, you can't really make

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Speaker 1: that determination. So to your point, um, what I would

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Speaker 1: say is I worry about any quarterback coming out of

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Speaker 1: a big time college in that situation. All right, before

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Speaker 1: we get to the NBA quickly, do you have an

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Speaker 1: upset for us on wild Card Super wild Card Weekend

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Speaker 1: Super wild Cards sounds so dumb. I mean, do the

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Speaker 1: Ravens count as a as a No? No, their favorite? Man? Yeah, yeah, undergone,

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Speaker 1: they are the lower seat. Well, let me hold on.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna pull up the my Action Network app here.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to my guy Chad. Yes, yes, yes, Washington,

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Speaker 1: all right, I'm looking at it here. So it is

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Speaker 1: uh yeah, Indie, Uh the Rams Tampa, Washington, Tennessee. The

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Speaker 1: Bears and the Browns there. So if I were looking

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Speaker 1: at two teams right out of the gate um, that

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Speaker 1: would make some sense to me. The Rams because they've

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Speaker 1: had a lot of success against the Seahawks. I think

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Speaker 1: it's five of the last six. Now. Granted, golf being

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Speaker 1: hurt plays a huge factor there, right, so that he

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Speaker 1: could have helped though it could help George. You saw

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Speaker 1: golf in the last meeting you're out here in l A.

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Speaker 1: The I mean golf. I don't know, man, yeah, but

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Speaker 1: but I just think that I'm not a huge golf guy,

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Speaker 1: but I think he's in that system with McVeigh. He

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Speaker 1: works um and he does have actual playoff experience. Everyone's

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Speaker 1: you know, going nuts over John Wolford, Wafford Walford. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Wolford Wolford. That's how you say his name. Um, dude,

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Speaker 1: you know he's still I know he had the fifty

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Speaker 1: or sixty yards rushing or whatever, and those are things

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Speaker 1: golf can't do, but he's still wasn't necessarily a great

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Speaker 1: passer of the football. I think we need to slow

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Speaker 1: down a little bit on that. But I would say

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Speaker 1: the Rams are probably the one team if I look

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Speaker 1: at that group, um, just because historically they've done really

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Speaker 1: well and its recent history against that particular Seahawks team,

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Speaker 1: although both defenses have been lights out since Week ten.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the NBA. So we had

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Speaker 1: Joy Taylor on the podcast last week, and I tried

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Speaker 1: to build a case of James Harden perhaps landing in

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Speaker 1: South Beach. Now. I know he's not a pat Riley

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Speaker 1: guy given the culture situation, and is hard and going

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00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: to fall in line, but we know Riley loves big

636
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: time talent. He has a great eye for it, he

637
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: knows how to bring it in and I mean, listen,

638
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: Miami's kind of off to a slow start given the

639
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: bubble situation. Jimmy Butler has missed a couple of games. Um,

640
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: I think there's a scenario where the Heat are sputtering

641
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: here in the next six weeks and pat Riley makes

642
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: a move on James hardened your thought. Yeah, I think

643
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: he's gonna kick the tires. It's funny because there was

644
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: the you know, I guess the Heat called a bunch

645
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: of reporters maybe ten days ago or so now that

646
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: they were out on James Harden, and I called the

647
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: reporters to tell him that, yeah, yeah, yeah, a bunch

648
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: of them had it. It was the Herald that the

649
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: local papers had it. Brian Windhorse had it for ESPN,

650
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: A bunch of people. And I laughed because look, I

651
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,240
Speaker 1: know that organization better than any organization in any sport. Okay.

652
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: And I've been around pat Riley a lot over the years, Okay. Um,

653
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: I have been both someone who has learned at the

654
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 1: knee of pat Riley in some cases, and I've also

655
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: been scolded by pat Riley in some cases. Um. But

656
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: the one thing I know about him is, and you

657
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 1: were kind of alluding to it, is he wants to

658
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: hunt for Wales. Okay. He knows that this is a

659
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: Superstar League, and the way you win is by adding

660
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 1: superstars to your team and you figure out the other

661
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: stuff later. And the perfect example of that is after

662
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: he got shock. Remember, you know Dwyane Wade was at

663
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: was in his second year player in two thousand and

664
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: four or five, when Shaq was traded from the Lakers,

665
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: and you know, they had a nice team around them.

666
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 1: They had guys like Kean Dueling was a good player,

667
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 1: Chris Lightner, like a bunch of really good role players,

668
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: Damon Jones um a bunch of bunch of guys who

669
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: were just really strong role players. And Riley scrapped that

670
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: whole plan when they lost in game seven when Dwyane

671
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: Wade got hurt in the Eastern Conference Finals that year

672
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: to the Pistons, and he brought in guys who were

673
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: at one point either stars or All Stars. He brought

674
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Speaker 1: in Gary Payton, and he brought in Antoine Walker and

675
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: White Chocolate, Jason Williams and James Posey, all these guys

676
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 1: who had been quote unquote headaches in some cases. Right, Um,

677
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: I'll never forget and they win the title, all right,

678
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: surround Wade and shack with those guys and win the title.

679
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: Now it's not an apples to apples comparison. But the

680
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: point is Riley is certainly willing to gamble on a

681
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: questionable personality, especially with one of the talents of James Harden.

682
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: So when I saw that that they had called the reporters,

683
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: I laughed because I said to myself, that just means

684
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: they're out for now. Yeah, And I think what Riley

685
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: is doing there is basically just chilling the market out

686
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: a little bit, right, And just because things were getting heated, right,

687
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 1: we were hearing all these stories about seven teams being involved,

688
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 1: and everyone is speculating who's going where and who are

689
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 1: the pieces, you know, and the stuff was leaking out.

690
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 1: So he's like, you know what, I'm gonna calm this

691
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: thing down something. There's no rush. Uh. Note that Houston

692
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: clearly is fishing for the most available assets. So if

693
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: they're gonna keep fishing, we're gonna pull back a little bit,

694
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: reassess where the market is, allow other teams to realize

695
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: that we're doing that, and also reassess and pull back

696
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 1: some and let's get a more level playing field. And

697
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: I think that's what's happening now. I'm not saying James

698
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: Harden is going to Miami. But I do think that

699
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: at the end of the day there will be a

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Speaker 1: conversation in Miami about potentially adding James Harden. I would

701
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: be stunned if there wasn't. You look at the East

702
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: and it is Janice and there's Kevin Durant, and I

703
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: believe Jayson Tatum is inching toward that level. I love

704
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: everything about his game. And it's weird because during the

705
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: bubble I said, you know what, I like Tyler Hero

706
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: so much. I'm not packaging him for anybody. I'm not

707
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: doing it. I got caught up in the moment, and um,

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00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: you know, Tyler Hero starting now, he doesn't look as

709
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: good as he did in the bubble. Um. It's almost

710
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: like teams are ready for him. Uh. Duncan Robinson, you know,

711
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Speaker 1: I gotta put out a a p B for his

712
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: whereabouts because he's been nowhere. We my son and I

713
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: have got drafted him in Fantasy because we watched him

714
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: in the bubble. We had to drop him after a week.

715
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Speaker 1: Like I mean, Duncan Robin's very limited. When teams know

716
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Speaker 1: what's coming. I just wonder you keep Bam, you keep

717
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler and I kind of wonder if is everybody

718
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: else on the table for for Harden. Yes, basically that

719
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: would be the case. Um. And look the thing with Hero,

720
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: and I'm with you. I still think hero ceiling is

721
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: pretty high. Now. I don't think it's James Harden by

722
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Speaker 1: any stretch of the imagination, but I could see his

723
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: ceiling being somewhere between between like Gordon Hayward and Bradley Beale.

724
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: Somewhere in between there right, like better than Gordon Hayward, um,

725
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Speaker 1: but probably not as good as Bradley Beale. That's kind

726
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: of where I think his eventual ceiling. Remember, he's twenty

727
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 1: years old, right like baby, um, and he's swimming and

728
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Speaker 1: I g models right well now just one, just one model.

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00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: He it's his girl. Um. But at least that's w

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00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: what I've heard, um. But here's the thing. He's also

731
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: being asked to play point guard for the first time

732
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: in his life because Folstra believed. And I had this

733
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: conversation with Eric last year when I was doing a

734
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: couple of their games on ESPN. He believed last year

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00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: and we saw this in the bubble right, um, that

736
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: he is absolutely a secondary ball handler type. And he said,

737
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: I think there's more to him there with that, UM,

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Speaker 1: And there's a I think there's a difference between being

739
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 1: a really good passer as a shooting guard, UM, and

740
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: being an actual point guard and organizer of offense. So

741
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: I think that he is not the latter just yet.

742
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 1: Not to say that he can't be, but I don't

743
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: believe he's anywhere near that kind of player yet, and

744
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: nor should he be, not being a natural point guard

745
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: and being twenty years old. UM. But because of that,

746
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: and because of the ceiling that I mentioned, if you

747
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: got to trade him for James Harden, so be it.

748
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: And that same thing with Duncan Robinson or anyone else

749
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: on that roster outside of the two you mentioned Jimmy

750
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 1: and Bam. No one should be untouchable. And honestly, I

751
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 1: think we've pushed came to shove and they knew we

752
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: could get the deal done. I think the Heat would

753
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: absolutely consider it. I'm not saying they pull the trigger

754
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: on it, but they would absolutely consider it. All Right,

755
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: we'll wrap up. We have a large Lakers following given

756
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: him out here in l A and you know Lakers

757
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: made a run to the title. We talked about him

758
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,720
Speaker 1: all the time. UM, it's a different Laker team this year,

759
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: George than the defensive minded one last year. But I

760
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: know you host to jump a lot, and you do.

761
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: You're around a lot of the NBA players. I do

762
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: have to ask, Um, are people starting to maybe change

763
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: their minds on the Lebron Michael Jordan's discussion. I know

764
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: that's a dead horse, has been beaten, and some people

765
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: can't stand it. But you know what side I'm on here.

766
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: I just wonder, given what we just saw from Lebron's

767
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: just turned thirty six, the guy still at the top

768
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 1: of his game. My mind continues to be blown by

769
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,959
Speaker 1: what he's able to do. So if there's a team

770
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: that I would rank seconds as far as my knowledge

771
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: and insight, it would be the Lakers Number one because

772
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: I do the daily radio show in l A number

773
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: two because I've done a bunch of their games on

774
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: ESPN over the last year or so. Um, And to

775
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: your point on Lebron, he just continues to amaze. I

776
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: was watching him play Memphis on Sunday night, and you know,

777
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: he had been He was okay through three quarters, and

778
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 1: then in the fourth quarter he just turned it on.

779
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: He was incredible. I think he scored I think it

780
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: was points in the fourth quarter and just put away

781
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 1: the Memphis Grizzlies in that game by himself, And that's

782
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: where he's at. Lebron James Jason is like Neo in

783
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: the matrix over the last couple of years, right like,

784
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: and last year specifically, we saw this more so than ever.

785
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: He he knows how to stop bullets with his hands already,

786
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: right like, He's at that level where there's nothing you

787
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: can throw at him that he hasn't seen. And we

788
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: saw that in the bubble when I think the best

789
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: coach in the NBA, now granted they didn't have the

790
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: talent um that the Lakers had, particularly with a D

791
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: and Lebron, but the best coach in the NBA do

792
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: everything in the kitchen sink at him and it never

793
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: really faced him. Okay, when spoke through stuff at him

794
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: and spoke obviously with intimate knowledge of Lebron having coached him.

795
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:49,280
Speaker 1: So to your point, I think, if you were constructing

796
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: a basketball player to be the greatest basketball player in

797
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: the world, to be the guy to play against the

798
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: Aliens when they came down right like the the thesis

799
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: of space jam right and defeat Aliens um it would

800
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: be Lebron James. He's the most gifted basketball player I've

801
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: ever seen. Now, it doesn't mean he's the most accomplished.

802
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean he has the best resume, because as

803
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: we were talking about earlier with all these other things

804
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: that we were discussing regarding quarterbacks, right, the parts around

805
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: you matter sometimes and and he hasn't had always the

806
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: greatest parts around him. And I know people are listening

807
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: and like, oh, are we doing that again where Lebron

808
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: doesn't have enough help. No, I'm not saying that, but

809
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: he he also um didn't have enough help in comparison

810
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: to some of the teams that he was facing, particularly

811
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: those Warrior teams. Right. Um. So, I just think that

812
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: he's at a stage right now where he knows his

813
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: game so well, he knows everything that's gonna be thrown

814
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: at him so well, um, so much so that he

815
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: is a great story. And he's done this numerous times

816
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 1: that he will tell opposing players who are like young

817
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: or or new to the team. Um what He'll hear

818
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: a coach call out a set an opposing coach and

819
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: the guy doesn't know where to stand, and he's told

820
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: the guy, Hey, this is the play you're running, you

821
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 1: should be standing here like the only other guy that

822
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: I've ever seen do that in the in my history

823
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: of covering the NBA, which goes back to two thousand three,

824
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: was Rashid Wallace where he would do that because I

825
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: was expecting they're one of the Rashid arguably the smartest

826
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: player I've ever seen play basketball. Uh, and know people

827
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: have a lot of different feelings about him, but his intelligence,

828
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: there's no way, um, you will find more than one

829
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 1: or two guys in the history of the sport. I think, um,

830
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: that are as smart or smarter than him. Um. I

831
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: think in today's game, you have Lebron and you have Rondo. Um,

832
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 1: Shane Battier probably in the previous iteration as a role player,

833
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: is in that category. But there's not a lot of

834
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: guys smarter than Rashid and Lebron. Chris Paul is a

835
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: good one. That's a good one. Steff is a good one.

836
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: But I would say as far as cerebral types, I think, yeah,

837
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: I mean those guys are, but Lebron and and Rashid

838
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: are near the top, right. Um, So I just think

839
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: it's all of that, right, It's the experience, the mind, right,

840
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: this beautiful mind you're working with the still athletic talent

841
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 1: that he possesses. Right, All those things combined make him

842
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: what he is today. And yes he has a you know,

843
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: a worse record in the finals. Um, But I just

844
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: think that if you were standing them next to each

845
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: other and you were picking, if you were a general

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Speaker 1: think you're picking Lebron based on all the tools that

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Speaker 1: he has in the toolbox. That's no question for me. Um.

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Speaker 1: Any last question, George, anybody is anyone challenging the Lakers

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Speaker 1: pushing them to seven in the West or in the finals? Okay,

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Speaker 1: so I think the Clippers are still good enough to

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Speaker 1: push them to seven. Like I think we've kind of

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Speaker 1: forgotten about the Clippers. I actually think that the surge

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Speaker 1: Bacca signing is a really good signing for them. Hey,

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Speaker 1: he's an upgrade I think over Montrez Harrold, specifically for

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Speaker 1: the style they want to play. He can stretch the floor,

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Speaker 1: he's a better deterrent at the rim defensively, and he's

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Speaker 1: got familiarity with Kauaide and I think that goes a

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Speaker 1: long way for a team. That didn't have a lot

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Speaker 1: of chemistry and familiarity last year for one reason or another. Um.

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Speaker 1: On the other side, I think that if if the

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Speaker 1: think that's a big question mark, and obviously health is

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Speaker 1: a huge factor with them. Considering their top two stars

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Speaker 1: in Duran and Kyrie, I think that the Nets could

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Speaker 1: be a team that can push them six or seven

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Speaker 1: in the finals. Outside of those two teams, I don't

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Speaker 1: see anyone that can get them to a seventh game,

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Speaker 1: all right. George Saddano Miami's finest. He is a big

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Speaker 1: shot now out here in l A. He does ESPN everything,

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Speaker 1: I mean, don't do you do? Is there anything you

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Speaker 1: don't do with ESPN? Um? I don't have a daily pod,

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Speaker 1: although I guess my radio show is podcasting, I don't

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Speaker 1: have that. UM. Yeah, I mean I've pretty much done

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Speaker 1: almost everything and every show at some point or another

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Speaker 1: over the seven years I've been at ESPN, including stuff

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Speaker 1: off the air, like listening to Calherd yap at me

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Speaker 1: about his takes before he would start his show. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you have plenty of those days. He he does that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think he has like a cycle of dudes. Uh

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Speaker 1: you me, probably Gottlieb Nick right, He just bounces stuff

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Speaker 1: off to see how it resonates, I think before going

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Speaker 1: to I still get texts from him. I'm like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, dude, you don't have about someone else

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Speaker 1: you can ask an NBA question to come on, alright, George, Hey,

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Speaker 1: thanks for coming on. Good luck in the new year.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure I'll see you around hopefully the Laker games too. Yeah. Brothers,

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Speaker 1: same here, Stay safe, stay healthy. Send my best to

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Speaker 1: Colin and all the all the crew there at Fox