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Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: I thought she was over there drinking of forty guns.
Speaker 2: I thought she was taking the forties to the head.
Speaker 1: Hell no, them days, it's long gone.
Speaker 2: Did you drink forties back in the day?
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, shit everybody? Did I think? Man?
Speaker 2: I was the forty ounce like I was the forty
Speaker 2: ounce king. How many forties could you drink at a time?
Speaker 2: Oh No, I wasn't no alcoholic. I could drink and
Speaker 2: I wasn't no alcoholic. See I think I was low key.
Speaker 2: But if you alcoholic, that means you can't quit. Right.
Speaker 2: I was able to stop drinking eat pretty easy. But man,
Speaker 2: I should drink like sixty seven forties at the time.
Speaker 1: Now, we used to get loaded. Now you know, recording
Speaker 1: would slip and shit studio We used to do our
Speaker 1: fair share of drinking. And yeah, them days is you know,
Speaker 1: I think that's young niggas. I think, you know, with
Speaker 1: all the vices we had.
Speaker 2: Sold on moves you saying about the vices.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, niggas was smoking cigarettes and doing our
Speaker 1: kind of shit coming up. So you know you have
Speaker 1: to let some of that shit fall.
Speaker 2: Oh, you gotta look the majority of it go because
Speaker 2: your body. Man, after a while, your body goes start
Speaker 2: to portray you. Dog Like, I don't even think I
Speaker 2: could drink a beer.
Speaker 1: Now. If I drunk a beer, I probably get sixty
Speaker 1: my stomach. I could drink a beer, but I'll just
Speaker 1: choose not to. You know, niggas smoke enough, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Enough tree, so I figure that's enough.
Speaker 2: And let me ask you this, bro, if you had
Speaker 2: to stop smoking weed for a month, could you do it?
Speaker 1: Yeah in about three weeks?
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think, man, everything I think, especially weed.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: I think weed is harmless, especially if you want to.
Speaker 2: I'm not really with the little kids smoking weed, man,
Speaker 2: especially this stuff.
Speaker 1: They got to dam they gotta be careful, you know.
Speaker 1: They don't introduced the game and shit.
Speaker 2: Okay, so gosh, y'all age dog over there, me eighties
Speaker 2: dog people. So if y'all hear dogs when we be
Speaker 2: doing these remost don't trip, we do.
Speaker 1: They. This is what I call laid, motherfucking late night
Speaker 1: hype tie. It's where they get to running around like
Speaker 1: crazy and she like motherfucking kids. You know, they need
Speaker 1: to go lay down and go to sleep. So around
Speaker 1: this time they get to running around like crazy, chasing
Speaker 1: each other, barking and trying to find everything they can
Speaker 1: to chew on.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Man, that's my dog too.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: You know I was going for the past few days. Man,
Speaker 2: I went to this. I went to a like a
Speaker 2: retrieved man. But it was a little different because you
Speaker 2: had to check your phones in everything. You couldn't be
Speaker 2: on the phone, no electronic devices. Right, I'm gonna tell
Speaker 2: you man, my head feels so clear now. I feel
Speaker 2: like I'm lighter now.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's something to that bro.
Speaker 1: Staying off of your phone and social media and all
Speaker 1: the other shit that's going on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because what I realized, man, people are emotional vampires.
Speaker 1: Yeah, people are emotional vampires.
Speaker 2: They dog Your whole moved. You have a good thing
Speaker 2: going dog and flying ring and it's like your day,
Speaker 2: just get washed matter of seconds that you're dealing with
Speaker 2: some bullshit.
Speaker 1: You know, Man, you gotta serve. Sometimes you gotta distance
Speaker 1: your self from shit. You know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: used to tell my nigga chill. Sometimes you can't make
Speaker 1: yourself as accessible to people. Sometimes you just got to
Speaker 1: take a break, man, because if not, man, you'll be
Speaker 1: going all day and everything. That phone's one of the
Speaker 1: causes of it.
Speaker 2: Man. I love to it, Don't get me wrong. I
Speaker 2: love talking to the homies, man, But I think, man.
Speaker 1: Talk your phone, talking like talking on the.
Speaker 2: Phone, not not like that. Man. But I'm what I'm
Speaker 2: saying is I don't mind talking to the homies, right.
Speaker 2: I don't want the poby to think, oh man, still
Speaker 2: thing fucking with You know they didn't.
Speaker 1: Like that, bro.
Speaker 2: But you only got so much spandwigh. Right, you got
Speaker 2: your spouse at home, you got Schuldrenicks you're dealing with,
Speaker 2: and you got you know, the life.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: So I'm work conscious of time since I don't turn
Speaker 2: two old nigga, right, I'm way more conscious of time.
Speaker 2: I don't want to waste a whole bunch of time
Speaker 2: talking on the phone and there's more other productive stuff
Speaker 2: I could doing. I don't start writing again. I've got
Speaker 2: some good stuff going on with that dog. I would
Speaker 2: rather just focus on that, bro. I'm like the creative type.
Speaker 2: I like doing making my beach dog, writing my scripts
Speaker 2: and just kind of just all that stuff is therapeutic
Speaker 2: to me, you.
Speaker 1: Know, right. I kind of like to just distance myself
Speaker 1: sometimes listening to different type of music to focus on shit.
Speaker 1: I find myself just watching a gang of other shit.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I like to just leave my phone in the
Speaker 1: other wrong and just leave it there and then go
Speaker 1: off and do some other shit. That way, I'm not
Speaker 1: paying attention to it, because that shit it gets you
Speaker 1: caught up. Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're the only dude I like watching on the internet. Man,
Speaker 2: And a lot of people don't like him. Man, I
Speaker 2: love Charleston White, said Charleston White as funny as hell.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that big had me. I was watching some shit.
Speaker 1: I seen he had a boxing match against somebody want.
Speaker 2: To do heads, the only Charleston Charles dudes that he didn't.
Speaker 1: He I mean, it was it was in then. It was.
Speaker 1: It was interesting, you know, to see and it's crazy
Speaker 1: because a lot of motherfuckers think they can fight, and
Speaker 1: they can box and throw hands, and it's really crazy
Speaker 1: because when you get inside that brain, you can really
Speaker 1: see the faultiness of this thing called fighting as a craft.
Speaker 1: You know. So the whole botching things definitely got you
Speaker 1: definitely got to give it up to niggas who take
Speaker 1: boxing as a profession. You know.
Speaker 2: Show. I tell people all the time that think they
Speaker 2: got squabbles and stuff. I say, man, you can't fight,
Speaker 2: I said, really, the only people that can fighters do
Speaker 2: catch that you see in the ring, the real you know,
Speaker 2: professional boxes fighters, the MMA fighters. Them dudes can fight.
Speaker 2: I think we can squabble, we defend ourselves or whatever
Speaker 2: like that, but we wouldn't stand a chance against the
Speaker 2: smallest dude from the nm A.
Speaker 1: Of box man. Yeah, it's the training that they put
Speaker 1: into it and the focus. Like you said, there's been niggas
Speaker 1: that we know in the neighborhood that's nice with the hands.
Speaker 1: It's a couple of homies you know, we went to
Speaker 1: school with, or just was on the block or whatever.
Speaker 1: We had the nice squabbles and who could you know,
Speaker 1: knock a nigga out with a couple of punches or whatever.
Speaker 1: You know, as far as boxing is concerned, as profession man,
Speaker 1: you gotta motherfucking give it up to you know what.
Speaker 1: They finally go to see it too, niggas who just
Speaker 1: want to step into the ring and try to throw
Speaker 1: hands and put on some gloves, you know, because you
Speaker 1: see a lot of that backyard shit going on today.
Speaker 1: When I look on the internet, you know, I see
Speaker 1: a couple of backyard boxing rings set up, motherfucks throwing
Speaker 1: hands and shit. So it's interesting where the sport is
Speaker 1: taking us today as far as he is concerned.
Speaker 2: That's why I say a lot of these dudes don't
Speaker 2: really have no beef because there's so many out lists.
Speaker 2: You could make some money. Actually, if you a dude
Speaker 2: that got funk with somebody, and you like you kind
Speaker 2: of a trinking type of dude, you can go out
Speaker 2: there and make some cash. If you got beat with somebody,
Speaker 2: go through the mans, y'all. Ain't got to talk no shit,
Speaker 2: no more going through the mans. Oh definitely got to
Speaker 2: the niggas. I wouldn't mind special. You know, I'm in
Speaker 2: shaving off you dog. You know, almost like sixty pounds.
Speaker 2: There's a couple of dudes I wouldn't mind getting the Ring.
Speaker 1: So have you been listening to the have you have
Speaker 1: you listened to the Clips album?
Speaker 2: Man, I'm gonna tell you what. I'm a big Clips fan.
Speaker 1: I think we're getting back into the stages of where
Speaker 1: people are starting to expect lyricism back in hip hop. Sure,
Speaker 1: I don't know, some people may call it. You know,
Speaker 1: I might fly over a couple of niggas heads, you know,
Speaker 1: because simplicity has been accepted for a while now as
Speaker 1: far as music is concerned. So you know, you gotta
Speaker 1: appreciate the uh. I think it just wanting to go
Speaker 1: back to the craft and just try to make good music.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what I think it is with that bro.
Speaker 2: I think like Clips, for example, I think they one
Speaker 2: of them groups man kind of like in the vein
Speaker 2: that you are guys to tell stories and you could
Speaker 2: tell like I could listen to them and tell they
Speaker 2: really did everything they talking about. You feel what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: because if you come from the game a little bit
Speaker 2: a little some something certain stuff that they say in
Speaker 2: certain lingo, they not really being faulty with. I listened
Speaker 2: to about of other cats like I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2: I was a young jeezy fan of some of that stuff.
Speaker 2: He'd be saying, it was just kind of just like, okay,
Speaker 2: you know, he rapping and I don't know what that
Speaker 2: man did or whatever like that. But the clips sound
Speaker 2: kind of like they sound like they was really really
Speaker 2: in this stuff. And I think and it ain't nothing
Speaker 2: to glorify. I think everybody so a little bit of
Speaker 2: dope on time, you know, especially if you a dude
Speaker 2: fortying up now.
Speaker 1: And then you know, depending on the era and the
Speaker 1: like you said, the era and the area you grew
Speaker 1: up in. You know, my era was crack era, so
Speaker 1: you know, if you call it yourself a young hustler,
Speaker 1: young banger or whatever, you definitely dibbled and dabbled, and
Speaker 1: like I said, it was some some some some took
Speaker 1: it to heart. Some just played around and wasn't very
Speaker 1: successful with it. But depending on, like I said, the
Speaker 1: situation in the era, in the area you was in,
Speaker 1: it definitely ran, it ran, It definitely ran across your face.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, But back to the clips, do I
Speaker 2: was listening to actually an interview they had Man and
Speaker 2: he was saying, Man that that Drake shit was so serious.
Speaker 2: They had a kinder verse they didn't want the universe
Speaker 2: didn't want them to put them out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's why they record was held up
Speaker 1: or they ended up getting released from Death Jam or
Speaker 1: someone else and signed the Rock Nation and they got
Speaker 1: the record put out because you know, Drake is still
Speaker 1: I was reading I think about a week ago or
Speaker 1: somewhere they were, you know, they got the judge. They
Speaker 1: the judge was reading lyrics from the songs, and you know,
Speaker 1: Drake's lawyers were proclaiming some ship and the judge was like,
Speaker 1: you know, sort of like, well, if y'all could do it,
Speaker 1: why can't he do it? And it should be fair
Speaker 1: for both sides, you know, and they talking about the
Speaker 1: pedophile line and judge mentioned some ship like what didn't
Speaker 1: Drake say Kendrick wasn't the father of his kids or
Speaker 1: some ship like that.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, you know, I think now we
Speaker 2: take him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's really it's really gone to and and
Speaker 1: why is it gone to that? Though? So so like
Speaker 1: is it that sensitivity or is it that you want
Speaker 1: to get the last laugh? Because it can't be like
Speaker 1: money right, you're making bread right.
Speaker 2: And he's Drake is still partling its career as far
Speaker 2: from over.
Speaker 1: You're making bread, right, you're getting bread whatever. So my
Speaker 1: thing is what is the end game to the lawsuit?
Speaker 1: Because we're both pushed by the same major factor, right,
Speaker 1: We're both.
Speaker 2: You know that is on in the stuff. He's on
Speaker 2: Universal Who It's kind of hard not to be on
Speaker 2: University distributed every love for the lab.
Speaker 1: So you you you you're trying to get paid from
Speaker 1: the label, from the from the distributor or the conglomerate.
Speaker 1: Who's who's paying you already? What do you want to
Speaker 1: double check? I'm sure you could have just walked in
Speaker 1: there and say give me some more money here. They
Speaker 1: would have they would you give me like without a lawsuit? Whatever?
Speaker 1: Can you imagine, Drake, you get together whatever you wanted.
Speaker 1: I need, I need like a I need like a
Speaker 1: hundred million. They'd have been like, oh, no problem. So
Speaker 1: what's the end game? Because do you want to let's
Speaker 1: put it like this, do you want to burn bridges
Speaker 1: and you like, right, check it out. Do you want
Speaker 1: to burn the bridge on the Highland? But we all
Speaker 1: still got to live here? You get me, like, you
Speaker 1: can't get off either if you burn the bridge, we
Speaker 1: all still neighbors, right.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, man, This is you know, hip
Speaker 2: hop is going to a real weird place land because
Speaker 2: they sitting to president right now. Even Butters dude just
Speaker 2: getting to go in the courtroom with this. I think
Speaker 2: this is begging. They judge has been like, Man, I
Speaker 2: ain't got no time to look at no shit like this. Man,
Speaker 2: you know, pull your paints off your ass and keep
Speaker 2: keep a moving.
Speaker 1: But I think back in the day we were on
Speaker 1: a different standard because rap bes back in off days,
Speaker 1: some niggas got killed behind, you know, and not to
Speaker 1: say today a lot of the young niggas and the
Speaker 1: young niggas who grab the mic and call themselves independent
Speaker 1: and repping their neighborhoods. You know, you can sort of
Speaker 1: die behind this this hip hop thing, right, and then
Speaker 1: on on the on the on the on. The prowess
Speaker 1: of friendly competition, right, hip hop has been that. You know,
Speaker 1: we've had beafs, you know, ll Kool J, Kumo D
Speaker 1: eight and Quick Lynch Mob and fucking above the law
Speaker 1: and ship. You know, we've had beachs, right, uh, And
Speaker 1: it's continued beyond. My thing is you've never like, man,
Speaker 1: this nigga said this, and that I'm finna go and
Speaker 1: sue fucking fucking whoever's the conglomerate because they're pushing that record.
Speaker 1: That's disrespecting me.
Speaker 2: Well let's go back to somebody.
Speaker 1: But I'm just repecting the niga too, though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for real, let's go back to something man, that
Speaker 2: this that you inserted, and you mentioned that, you know
Speaker 2: with we ain't go going to it. We let's talk
Speaker 2: about the situation. You had an award ceremony. Dude, get
Speaker 2: up on stage, do what he do. He out there
Speaker 2: with a thousand people. People don't see the optics behind shit.
Speaker 2: You probably out there with four or five of your homies,
Speaker 2: or definitely you out there with four or five of
Speaker 2: your homies. I'm pretty sure it was some niggas and
Speaker 2: that thought you a young nigga at the time too.
Speaker 2: That thought probably said, we gonna rest this nigga when
Speaker 2: we get backstage. But then you had to start thinking,
Speaker 2: we out here in New York, out numbered like a
Speaker 2: motherfucker wet handles when we get back to the land.
Speaker 1: Well you gotta be you know where, We're very prideful
Speaker 1: about who we are as niggas, and you know we
Speaker 1: was cripping and representing the hood, and you know, everybody
Speaker 1: know what half of Death Row represent it. And you
Speaker 1: know that that was the real thing, the rivalry with
Speaker 1: the ship, because it was real gang banging in Fall.
Speaker 1: So but you still have to be smart. You get me.
Speaker 1: I'm knowing eight niggas can't fight sixty. You get me
Speaker 1: that it was, it was done, you know. So yeah
Speaker 1: we can exchange words and yeah, yeah, whatever or whatever,
Speaker 1: but to be smart about it, I don't give a
Speaker 1: fuck how courageous we are or you know that that
Speaker 1: phrase nigga, I'll dive in the deep end. You get me,
Speaker 1: you fuck, but I'm not stupid. I ain't gonna dive
Speaker 1: in the deep end in this piranha over there. You
Speaker 1: feel me?
Speaker 2: They got today, I'll down behind my respect.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't follow a lot of the new sayings
Speaker 1: today because they change every fucking week. You get me.
Speaker 1: And then a lot of it. And then, like I said,
Speaker 1: I was a young nigga, so we lived by a
Speaker 1: certain code, as young niggas do today. You feel well,
Speaker 1: you know all the time. I know that you only
Speaker 1: live once. But you know, we wasn't running around at
Speaker 1: our age at twelve thirteen fourteen, screaming that shit out going,
Speaker 1: fuck it, I'm finna high dive off the roof and
Speaker 1: whatever happened, Because you only live once, nigga.
Speaker 2: I missed.
Speaker 1: Off. I'm finna crack my skull because you know I
Speaker 1: was taught differently. You get him my umba cold me.
Speaker 1: You gonna be a dumb ass if you want to.
Speaker 1: But if you jump off the motherfucking roof, nigga, you're
Speaker 1: gonna break your motherfucking neck or your motherfucking leg. So
Speaker 1: you know that. That's what I went by. I had
Speaker 1: times while I was like fuck it and fuck it niggas.
Speaker 1: It's it's seven eight niggas, it's three four of us,
Speaker 1: fuck it, you know, let's see what happened. But then
Speaker 1: there's times that gold nigga. Uh, it's thirty niggas, nigga
Speaker 1: and it's four of y'all. What are you gonna drill
Speaker 1: like that? What are you gonna do? That's dumb, that's
Speaker 1: really dumb. You know some dudes do it because it's
Speaker 1: the pride. I don't give a five.
Speaker 2: Now, you know what the word is, say about pride
Speaker 2: or dog pride, come before the fall, and I think
Speaker 2: Drake don't invertently man put so much. He's the one
Speaker 2: that's keeping the gun kind of with these privolous lawsuits
Speaker 2: and stuff. And then the thing is like, what is
Speaker 2: it that you want to accomplish? Then you want Kendrick
Speaker 2: to pay you some money? And the thing you say,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you this a dude to say whatever
Speaker 2: they want to about me to a Lenard, Right, But
Speaker 2: the moment somebody put their hands on me, it's a
Speaker 2: whole different story. Right. If I come slap a dude
Speaker 2: in the back of the head and he hit me back,
Speaker 2: I can't go run the police up or he hit me.
Speaker 1: Like, I don't. Rap beefs start like they just start, right,
Speaker 1: you get me. Sometimes we don't even know how they start.
Speaker 1: I couldn't even tell you how these two niggas got
Speaker 1: to go on at each other hidden message. We didn't
Speaker 1: hidden messages, you know, because you fucked with topping them
Speaker 1: from the beginning. And so, but a rap beef is
Speaker 1: a rap beef, you get me. Like, when you go
Speaker 1: into a you can't expe and you gotta expect the
Speaker 1: nigga gonna try to come with whatever he gonna come
Speaker 1: with right back in our days, we didn't go pay
Speaker 1: for information or get for or what whatever, whatever whatever
Speaker 1: we thought of a nigga's appearance or his rap skills
Speaker 1: or how weak he was, and that that's that's what's.
Speaker 2: Trying to find You. Wasn't not your past, not money
Speaker 2: talk about me, I need.
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I wasn't going up to a nigga high
Speaker 1: school pay and off his old teachers and classmates trying
Speaker 1: to find out information or you know, a distant cousin.
Speaker 1: You know that the nigga used to wet the bed
Speaker 1: at night and shit like that. You know, we just wrapped,
Speaker 1: We went off of nigga. I think my skill is
Speaker 1: better than yours or you know. That's it.
Speaker 2: And Drink is a good artist man to you know,
Speaker 2: Kendrick obviously won the award, right, but it was a
Speaker 2: good battle up to a point. You know, it was
Speaker 2: a good battle. It's not like Drake one up there
Speaker 2: and just got dog walk. Kendrick just had better rigors
Speaker 2: and we got this time.
Speaker 1: Like I said, they was both they both did they
Speaker 1: they they had their times and whatever. Like I said,
Speaker 1: rap shit has been going on since in the inception
Speaker 1: of this ship you give me. We ain't the ones
Speaker 1: that started and it ain't the ones that's gonna end it.
Speaker 1: Beefs or whatever you want to call them, rap battles,
Speaker 1: rap beefs, rap whatever. They've always been able to keep
Speaker 1: a little sharpness and the edge to the game. Get me.
Speaker 1: That's what I look at it, as if some shit
Speaker 1: unfolds out of it like I would have. I've never
Speaker 1: pictured the two niggas going lets meet up and catch
Speaker 1: a fade. You know, they're megastars. You know, ship like
Speaker 1: that don't happen beyond with you. You just mentioned a
Speaker 1: key word. I think that not you don't become the
Speaker 1: homies pockets. But he's given the least some minion dollars
Speaker 1: a show at least. I mean, he, I can tell
Speaker 1: you what he done. Came a long way from section
Speaker 1: eighty days.
Speaker 2: You get some big even though to where I heard
Speaker 2: him and Scissor just broke jay Z and Beyonce's like
Speaker 2: to a revenue thing. And then that Jay and Beyonce
Speaker 2: was making some bread.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean the tour has been doing excellent.
Speaker 1: You know a lot of people doubted it, you know,
Speaker 1: because of they were saying the super Bowl was weak,
Speaker 1: but come to find out, it was the biggest Watch
Speaker 1: super Bow ever, which has generated a lot of of
Speaker 1: income for the tour. The tour has been successful. He's
Speaker 1: been able to go overseas and be successful. But like
Speaker 1: you said, Drake has been rolling out his new project
Speaker 1: and doing what he's doing. People still buying his ship
Speaker 1: and listening to his ship. He's just like, he's still
Speaker 1: got a bunch of fans. It's a gang of people.
Speaker 1: One just like motherfuckers is still buying R. Kelly's shit
Speaker 1: and listening to his ship, and motherfucker's hanging it is.
Speaker 1: It is just what it is. Man. If you make
Speaker 1: good music, you make good music. And that's just what
Speaker 1: the people gonna do. They gonna have their choices, they
Speaker 1: gonna have their preferables and whatever, and that's what you do. Ship.
Speaker 1: There's some shit. I like that. I don't like that,
Speaker 1: I like that, I don't like period. Man.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you now, Drake got a crazy fan
Speaker 2: based doc got a crazy fan base. And if I
Speaker 2: was trick to be honest with y'all, wouldn't never got
Speaker 2: startled with that. Nigga could see he picked the right one,
Speaker 2: because God is one of them little rap and dudes
Speaker 2: like like, I'm gonna be real with you, dog. I
Speaker 2: knew I met Do when he was like sixteen or
Speaker 2: something like that, sixteen about to turn seventeen or something
Speaker 2: like that. I guarantee you that this probably was one
Speaker 2: of the homies, fantasies or something to get the mate
Speaker 2: to rap. Beef Man and lyrically dominated nigga. You feel me,
Speaker 2: and he's he's that type of dude. He's really about
Speaker 2: the whole culture up. You feel what I'm saying. He
Speaker 2: was raped like he can really rap. I remember we
Speaker 2: was in the niggas and gardens and we were shooting
Speaker 2: a jackbox video all my life right, and there was
Speaker 2: a bunch of little rappers, you know, they see the
Speaker 2: homie out there, nickas and guard they see an opportunity
Speaker 2: somebody shoot the video. So there's a million little dudes
Speaker 2: out there. Rabbit man, when I tell you that lit
Speaker 2: each necky, last one of the nigga's up dog with
Speaker 2: a big ass TD shirt on, that's when he had
Speaker 2: the little fade and shit, dog, he's only done came
Speaker 2: a long way.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: You get proud. You feel what I'm saying. You're like man,
Speaker 2: look at the homie. Man, this dude really don't become
Speaker 2: a leg you feel what I'm saying a lot of
Speaker 2: people use that word legend too loose for you. A
Speaker 2: legend you put in a lot of time. At this point,
Speaker 2: it don't seem like it's been that long. Shoot do
Speaker 2: going on twenty years? Damn there dog?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, time flies, man, when you go twenty years.
Speaker 2: Bro, he's not the I told somebody the other day.
Speaker 2: They said little homie. I said, no, he ain't long.
Speaker 2: That dude. He's the big on me. No, that that pucket,
Speaker 2: he's big on.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I remember that. You does. Some people still
Speaker 1: look at him as the little homie who was home.
Speaker 1: We're thirsty around there. So you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: everybody's successes come with with with turns and falls. And
Speaker 1: you know, this is some new era that we're into
Speaker 1: where you know, law suits come behind deefs and embarrassment
Speaker 1: or whatever. And I don't know, you know how to
Speaker 1: take what he had to go through with being called
Speaker 1: a pedal file and so the.
Speaker 2: First punch though, so you gotta spect me. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: tell you something. Well, that's what I'm saying. You can't
Speaker 2: expect any fairness in a motherfucking street fight. Now you
Speaker 2: can ask for Now, you can ask for a fair fade.
Speaker 2: But if there's no guarantee you gonna get that. When
Speaker 2: you and a niggas motherfucking neighborhood and terror tour, so
Speaker 2: you jumped into it with both fists ready, with your
Speaker 2: chest poked out, and you know, you took a couple
Speaker 2: of swings. He took a couple of swings. And then
Speaker 2: it's like, after you got beat up, it's like, now
Speaker 2: you want to go file a assault charge. That's what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, man, because you never know how people go yet, right,
Speaker 2: Because I'm gonna tell you, somebody put their hands on
Speaker 2: me in any kind of way, I don't care if
Speaker 2: this I'm gonna try to kill you, try to hurt you.
Speaker 1: You know, you know you in a fight with it.
Speaker 1: There got the bar and then go outside and the
Speaker 1: post police pull up and then they separate y'all, and
Speaker 1: they asked him do you want pressity charges? He goes nah,
Speaker 1: And then they asked the other motherfucker you were pressity charges?
Speaker 1: And he goes, yeah, I do.
Speaker 2: Because the thing is, man, you gotta like I said, man,
Speaker 2: It's a lot of ego involved in this stuff. Right.
Speaker 2: If I was drinking out and left it alone, you
Speaker 2: gotta remember he doesn't farewell against people that really wrap,
Speaker 2: you know, push your teeth word.
Speaker 1: Could you have left it along? If a nigga was
Speaker 1: calling you a If a nigga was calling you a
Speaker 1: rapist and all that shit, could you leave that alone?
Speaker 2: If we're in a rep battle.
Speaker 1: If you were in a rap battle and you got
Speaker 1: your wife, you got your daughter, and the niggas calling
Speaker 1: you a rapist and you touch on young girls and
Speaker 1: shit like that, could you take that or what you
Speaker 1: go to sue the record label or the distributor who
Speaker 1: was making that shit fly.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have been none of that, dog, Because the
Speaker 2: thing is, Man, if it ain't no truth to some
Speaker 2: shit dog nigga say, Man, I'm gonna tell you something,
Speaker 2: I gotta be one of the most lied on niggas
Speaker 2: all the time. This nigga said, they don't tie me
Speaker 2: up man, all bullshit. It's like, why am I gonna
Speaker 2: get mad? That shit ain't true?
Speaker 1: Right? Why do you feel he didn't just let that fly?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna tell you this, if he would have
Speaker 2: won the battle, he wouldn't have said shit. It would
Speaker 2: have been done when to back.
Speaker 1: Even if even if say say that nigga, say he
Speaker 1: tied you up and you did this, and Buck fucked
Speaker 1: the nigga and did all kind of ship and then
Speaker 1: y'all got a scrap one day and the scrap came
Speaker 1: out even nobody win. You got a couple of hits.
Speaker 1: He got a couple of hits. Dude, You let that
Speaker 1: fly that a nigga was saying that shit about you.
Speaker 2: You know, if we get a heated competition, you gotta remember, Man,
Speaker 2: I'm a nigga that like hip hop, Like I watched
Speaker 2: battle rap and all that, you are supposed to say
Speaker 2: the most obscene shit you can about a niggas mama,
Speaker 2: about a niggas kid. I saw this one nigga battling
Speaker 2: the homie, mister fab and I was kind of getting mad,
Speaker 2: dude about busting nuts in his daughter's face and all
Speaker 2: kinds of stuff and all, what what the hell? I like,
Speaker 2: he's a ball on this nigga. You know, he got
Speaker 2: a line. But they're in a rap battle. That's what
Speaker 2: they're there to do there, to degregate you and disrespect
Speaker 2: you with it and disrespect you in anybody they can.
Speaker 2: This nigga said some stuff that could have get it,
Speaker 2: that man's marriage, that could have been just bathing him
Speaker 2: when he talked. He called Dot a woman beater, called woe.
Speaker 2: Peter said that he was mentioned around and all kinds
Speaker 2: of stuff. You know, it was a lot of little
Speaker 2: snition going on in that rap beef he said. He
Speaker 2: said he wasn't the father of his kids, you know,
Speaker 2: he said, Dave Free. Now, boy, that's woman. I don't
Speaker 2: know if I don't know if she is wife, but
Speaker 2: his girlfriend would have fouled defamation. She had nothing she
Speaker 2: can't rep Now you accuse of me of being an
Speaker 2: adulterous and you're saying that my children, my children's father
Speaker 2: rant the father this managerls.
Speaker 1: Dog.
Speaker 2: You don't know how shit is, dog. You don't know
Speaker 2: what kind of shit that could have caused. And I
Speaker 2: don't see it. Shit get fucked up because the lines broke.
Speaker 1: For real, Oh no, no real, I mean off of
Speaker 1: not even off of a million dollar rap niggas off
Speaker 1: of two dollars corner niggas, You feel me off of
Speaker 1: two off of two dollars forty ounce niggas There're been
Speaker 1: lies told and shit that's been said to where niggas
Speaker 1: have lost their lives, niggas who's probably gotten their asses
Speaker 1: whooked or junked or did all kinds of shit behind
Speaker 1: and behind a two dollar lot. You fuck you feel.
Speaker 2: And my uncle told me, man, I remember one day,
Speaker 2: I was about fourteen weeks out and about man I saw.
Speaker 2: I thought, I saw homies girl in the Cadillact with
Speaker 2: this one dude like lean the thunder them And I'm
Speaker 2: a younger, I said, Man, I'm gonna tell her. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna tell her. I'm gonna tell her roll it, you know,
Speaker 2: old girl doing this and that. My uncle looked at
Speaker 2: me and said, now, as you sure that that was her?
Speaker 2: And I said, well, looked just like he said, But
Speaker 2: you're not sure, right, and you don't know who that was?
Speaker 2: Total you know your music, your second Yeah, I got you,
Speaker 2: y'all got you. And you don't know, he said, And
Speaker 2: you don't know who that like if you were not
Speaker 2: one hundred percent sure and you don't know who he
Speaker 2: was and her it could have been her uncle, it
Speaker 2: could have been anything, right, And at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, it ain't none of your business. But let's
Speaker 2: say this. You want to go tell this dude that
Speaker 2: you coold with. This girl was in the carss another nigga.
Speaker 2: Let's say he go home and she just brought and
Speaker 2: he had her beat her up so bad he kill her.
Speaker 2: Right now, who's responsible for a murder? I am because
Speaker 2: I'm out there spreading gossip. That's what that was. Gossip.
Speaker 2: You feel what I'm saying. I try and I try
Speaker 2: not to fall into the gossip shit man, because I'm
Speaker 2: gonna tell you it's a fun We are in the
Speaker 2: whole nigga era, doog to where's niggas that walk around?
Speaker 2: That's all they do is gonsip talk about what this
Speaker 2: man is doing, what the next man is doing. I
Speaker 2: can't be mad at it because they running it up
Speaker 2: with that shit. People love that bullshit. It's a whole
Speaker 2: challenge to go to the bullshit. And I'm not calling
Speaker 2: it channel bullshit, but the Zoo's network, that's a multi
Speaker 2: medion dollar company. I wish I could have thought of
Speaker 2: that shit. You know, big up to the man, bore
Speaker 2: man out out there doing this shit. Lem me, well,
Speaker 2: let me well out there doing this shit, my boy ad.
Speaker 2: They had a security over there. They was just over
Speaker 2: an Africa dog and that shit was packed. They had
Speaker 2: allive being over an Africa dollar and he said it
Speaker 2: was like thirty forty people over there.
Speaker 1: I'm sure. I mean it's that crazy shit travels man
Speaker 1: like like that shit. People love that shit, man, people
Speaker 1: like I said, my Nigga rich rest in peace. He
Speaker 1: used to love watching that chip type of shit.
Speaker 2: Now guarantee. He had the Zous network on his phone.
Speaker 1: He had all those that work zoos that's now TV
Speaker 1: whatever that shit is all that he had all that.
Speaker 2: All that messy shit. You know what, I'm gonna tell
Speaker 2: you something. The hommy invited me up one night, man,
Speaker 2: just come to one of the shows they ad bro
Speaker 2: and I ain't gonna lie. It was Craggy Dog. They
Speaker 2: got a lot of fans for that shit, right. The
Speaker 2: stuff gave me a headache after a while because it
Speaker 2: was just so messy dog. Like you can feel you
Speaker 2: like you go somewhere, you feel bad energy in the air, right,
Speaker 2: like you know some bullshit about to pop off, and
Speaker 2: you're like, man, you just feel it. Man, I'm miny,
Speaker 2: I'm you know this because somebody will wound up getting
Speaker 2: shot tonight. It felt like one of them things, girls
Speaker 2: getting beat up, girls jumping out the audience, trying to
Speaker 2: steal on the memories just so they can get on TV.
Speaker 2: It was crazy. Dog. So the world is definitely driven
Speaker 2: off a proper Ganda in bullshit right now. We in
Speaker 2: that era.
Speaker 1: Dog, It's all over the place. And the more they
Speaker 1: feed it, the more motherfucker because warning and they need it.
Speaker 1: And and I can't really, I can't stand the shit myself.
Speaker 1: To me, it's it's low key embarrassing to see motherfuckers
Speaker 1: put themselves to whatever once again, Like I said, people
Speaker 1: will do whatever it takes in this day and age
Speaker 1: to be famous or become someone. And there is no
Speaker 1: level of how false. There's none, Like I don't know
Speaker 1: what I gotta do. Shit, I got run around the
Speaker 1: street my underwear with from Bunny Rabbit ears on. Like
Speaker 1: the nigga in color just be fucking you know, doing
Speaker 1: dumb shit. Niggas be like, yeah, you can make money
Speaker 1: off of it, nigga, Like, let's do it.
Speaker 2: So pretty much. And you know what, it's people out there,
Speaker 2: you rich all this stuff. Man. The one thing I
Speaker 2: do say about the Zoos network that's black on coty.
Speaker 2: So it's a brother's making millions dollars and those people
Speaker 2: are actually making money on those shows. So it is
Speaker 2: anybody getting hurt for real, I don't think so, you
Speaker 2: know that's what they choose to do. I just know
Speaker 2: this man. I just tell everybody, this man that you
Speaker 2: only gonna be fifteen one time in your life. You
Speaker 2: only gonna be twenty one one time in your life. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: you gonna liok in, You're gonna be forty, you gonna
Speaker 2: be thirty five. You may fuck around and have a
Speaker 2: job somewhere one day, you ain't mess around to become
Speaker 2: you can do. You don't know what a person's gonna
Speaker 2: be doing Fifteen years from now, and they in the
Speaker 2: position and they embarrassed by some shit their younger self
Speaker 2: did always tell my kids, man, don't let young you
Speaker 2: fuck it up over.
Speaker 1: You right, and you gonna get a lot of that,
Speaker 1: you know, thirty years from now. For the motherfuckers, that's
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, thirty. They gonna look up and when
Speaker 1: they start when they hit forty five fifty and start seeing,
Speaker 1: you know, doing crazy shit or talking about that like
Speaker 1: they used to. They used to eat ass and do
Speaker 1: all kinds of crazy. Ship now they now they got grandkids,
Speaker 1: or like you said, they going, they going, they in
Speaker 1: the church now, or they the manager at a at
Speaker 1: a at a respectable business. And motherfuck come in and man,
Speaker 1: I remember you used to eat ass.
Speaker 2: Man, if you do have nigga seals, they don't care
Speaker 2: if you they may get up to test you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. What's the test on? Brother? Man? I
Speaker 2: don't remember you used the dude talk about you eat
Speaker 2: ass and all of.
Speaker 1: The Yeah you're preaching out. Yeah you was the You
Speaker 1: was the motherfucker that was eating the bitches groceries and ship.
Speaker 1: Look at you down man walking around. You're all good
Speaker 1: dash ship, especially these girls.
Speaker 2: Dog. And that's the thing, man, you you're not gonna
Speaker 2: be young forever. You gonna have sugar one day. Prosper
Speaker 2: It was with these farms. Now. All it take is
Speaker 2: one kid at the school to find up a video. Moms,
Speaker 2: your moms, sut pipe were doing whatever she was doing
Speaker 2: back there, somebody running the train on her. It's the
Speaker 2: ruin that kid. You can't get over that. Dog.
Speaker 1: A dude got a video your mama getting talked up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you only lived once. But so you gotta watch the
Speaker 1: life you live you give me because you can't do
Speaker 1: no exchan You can't do no exchanges. You feel me.
Speaker 2: Now, I guarantee you when you I would the least hope.
Speaker 2: So when you get old, you're shamed, because I know
Speaker 2: off for sure, shame shamed of a lot of shit
Speaker 2: I did and I ain't doing nothing close to what
Speaker 2: these niggas is doing.
Speaker 1: And now we was. You know, my ship was simple shit,
Speaker 1: you know, getting getting loaded, buying the liquor, smoking weed.
Speaker 2: Kids shit, that's normal kids shit. But these kids now, man,
Speaker 2: And it's like, it's the thing with these young girls. Hey,
Speaker 2: I'm talking bout man. I'm seeing girls that couldn't be
Speaker 2: no more than fifteen sixteen out there, lady. It's crazy though.
Speaker 2: And the thing is, it isn't like nobody is forcing
Speaker 2: them out there, right, These girls going out there on
Speaker 2: their own to make money. They got Instagram pages and
Speaker 2: all kinds. Like I was looking at some other night, man,
Speaker 2: it was a girl on there. Man, this girl looked
Speaker 2: like her chets wasn't even developed yet, you know, one
Speaker 2: titty bigger than the other and all that stuff. Man,
Speaker 2: It's like, what is she doing, man like where is
Speaker 2: her mama at? Where's her daddy at? Like like like
Speaker 2: where are her people at? Where is her uncle at?
Speaker 2: Do she got a brother?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Who was allowing her to be out there like that?
Speaker 2: Then you think about it, she's allowing herself to some
Speaker 2: of these kids out of control.
Speaker 1: Bro, It's unfortunate that we still have situations to where
Speaker 1: poverty exists and low income fucked up houses, it still exists.
Speaker 1: You know, you could take it draw. I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: you can drive a couple of blocks from where you
Speaker 1: live and you know, neighborhood shit, motherfucker's low income, it's
Speaker 1: all over. It's unfortunately that we still got to go
Speaker 1: through these situations to where niggas are being born into
Speaker 1: these situations and young motherfuckers with no guidance. Is just
Speaker 1: the worst. You feel me because, like I said, you
Speaker 1: was young once, I was young. Once. We all had
Speaker 1: that mentality of fuck the world, nobody give a fuck,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna get it how I live. You know,
Speaker 1: some of us can come out of that, but some
Speaker 1: of us, some of us, it takes a longer walk.
Speaker 2: Some of it's never come out of it. Dog, you
Speaker 2: know what I told you know what I told my
Speaker 2: kids one day. It's one thing where you get to
Speaker 2: learn and listen from something, right, But it's a lot
Speaker 2: of times it's you that's it. Right there, you make
Speaker 2: a bad decision, doog, that's it. That's your first long
Speaker 2: time man, that's it. Like you know, think about the
Speaker 2: dude letting buyers to basketball player. Dude, life is fucking
Speaker 2: change cocaine probably first time go it done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta like I said, you gotta watch. You know,
Speaker 1: it could skip over us before a lot of us,
Speaker 1: it don't, and the struggle is real and it's unfortunate.
Speaker 1: That's how you see a lot of these you know,
Speaker 1: these shows where the young women are getting on here,
Speaker 1: fighting each other and you know, doing what they gotta
Speaker 1: do because the situation that they are in at the
Speaker 1: previous moment is no better than ship. You know, you're
Speaker 1: feeling like, fuck it, I gotta fight my way out
Speaker 1: of this ship to the top because there's no there's
Speaker 1: no easy road. Unfortunate you know, uh, some of them,
Speaker 1: some of them are a educated you know, you might
Speaker 1: think school is easy and all that type of ship,
Speaker 1: but it takes a lot, and especially when you living
Speaker 1: in a situation where it's kind of hard when you're
Speaker 1: surrounded by you know, the pitfalls how we used to say,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to cross those motherfucking streets and those
Speaker 1: bridges that are just fucked up for a young motherfucker,
Speaker 1: and when you ain't got nothing, and then then you're
Speaker 1: losing half the battle because only one motherfucking parent is available.
Speaker 1: And then a stra DELMDA is hard. Man, You think
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 2: Eight if you a parent nowadays, man, the average a
Speaker 2: piece of shit apartment, if you ain't got six and
Speaker 2: maybe nothing like that, a piece of shit apartment is
Speaker 2: gonna cost you at least two when eight hundred, and
Speaker 2: that's cheap right there, that's on cheap side, right. So
Speaker 2: just think you are. You're a person, an individual that
Speaker 2: don't really have a lot of talent, You don't really
Speaker 2: have a lot of options, and you're working at Walmart
Speaker 2: and McDonald's trying to make ends meet. Right, but you
Speaker 2: got a kid at home. That kid is there by
Speaker 2: hisself or herself. I guarantee they gonna get into some shit.
Speaker 2: And that's all to take this for a motherfucker to
Speaker 2: tell them, Hey, you know, if you do this, you
Speaker 2: can make a lot of money and they gonna do
Speaker 2: something stupid, right, but they don't know that one incident
Speaker 2: lived with them their whole life. Bro their whole life.
Speaker 1: Kids are easily influenced today because they get to see
Speaker 1: a lot more than what you know, not saying that.
Speaker 1: You know, we were sheltered, but you know we didn't
Speaker 1: have access to a lot of shit that it seen today.
Speaker 1: You know, a five year old could access anything by
Speaker 1: the touch of a phone. You get number to use
Speaker 1: the motherfuckers too, So the influences are great, and so
Speaker 1: it's hard to try to steer a motherfucker who doesn't
Speaker 1: have no support system, you know, and a lot of us,
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of the young homies or a
Speaker 1: lot of the young women. Like I said, they're coming
Speaker 1: in up out of the struggle. So when you don't
Speaker 1: have a support system, it's you. It's fucked up because
Speaker 1: you know, I see a lot of young men that
Speaker 1: I mentored playing football. And for those who didn't go
Speaker 1: off to college or school or whatever, you know, a
Speaker 1: lot of them got good jobs right now. They got
Speaker 1: out in the workforce. And that's a positive situation because
Speaker 1: I have to you, you got to tell everybody you know,
Speaker 1: everybody can't be famous. You know, we gotta have warmer motherfuckers.
Speaker 1: We gotta have niggas climbing up poles, and we gotta
Speaker 1: have niggas building ships.
Speaker 2: Nothing, there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1: We gotta have four men and niggas design and shipping
Speaker 1: and creating, and everything can be a new slang word
Speaker 1: or a new you know, a new way to put
Speaker 1: the switch on your blicky or whatever.
Speaker 2: You know. I was looking at some stuff now with
Speaker 2: my wife on TV right, and there was these two
Speaker 2: girls that have moved down to Mexico. They moved to
Speaker 2: Mexico City for whatever, right. The one at job a
Speaker 2: job work remotely out there. Her sister was talking about,
Speaker 2: I hope to become a social media influencer. That's a
Speaker 2: real job to motherfuckers. Now start you only fans page and.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get all that motherfucker and I'm ana I'm
Speaker 1: gonna talk about I'm gonna tell a motherfucker how the
Speaker 1: ladies burgery. I don't give a fuck a motherfucker being
Speaker 1: influencer to tell you about what restaurant to go eat at.
Speaker 1: You get me to be then and back in the
Speaker 1: days you would be like that. Ain't no motherfucking you
Speaker 1: know that's some bullshit. I'm go out and give me
Speaker 1: a regular job. But today, man, you can turn on
Speaker 1: your camera and point it at your plate and go
Speaker 1: around and once motherfucker, once one nigga do it and see, Nigga,
Speaker 1: I'm making money off of telling niggas where to go
Speaker 1: eat at. Nigg you're gonna see now you see a
Speaker 1: thousand of you.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what the problem eight everybody thinks that
Speaker 2: they're going to have the level of success that the.
Speaker 1: Exactly home way over there.
Speaker 2: Making money shit may not be as policy as his.
Speaker 1: Oh this niggah, this nigga doing is riding around buring
Speaker 1: the restaurants, eating and telling people if the food is
Speaker 1: good or not. Nigga, I could do that. Fuck it,
Speaker 1: I'm start doing that shit next thing. You know, it's
Speaker 1: a hundred motherfuckers now who are to ride around in
Speaker 1: their car going to pick up food and telling you
Speaker 1: what the food like.
Speaker 2: And you know what, man, I'll be a hypocrite of
Speaker 2: for us here. It shouldn't nobody be doing nohing. Hell,
Speaker 2: we make money on we make money doing this podcast. Right.
Speaker 2: The thing is, though, bro, I would never tell nobody.
Speaker 2: Man if they sincere about what they're doing, don't like,
Speaker 2: who am I to tell somebody that right exactly? I'll
Speaker 2: just leave you with this disclaimer. It is not as
Speaker 2: easy as you think it is.
Speaker 1: I'll leave you with this disclaimer here, and don't have
Speaker 1: to be you. You could do something different, you said.
Speaker 1: I'm not the one to tell you that you shouldn't
Speaker 1: do a podcast nigga. I'm gonna do a poker. It
Speaker 1: could be a nigga around the corner doing the podcast,
Speaker 1: just like what we do. You want to bring gangster
Speaker 1: niggas from the street on there. It's a few of
Speaker 1: the same format, now, are there successful? They might not be,
Speaker 1: They might be, But I'm not the one to say
Speaker 1: don't do it.
Speaker 2: I'm a it's a whole bunch of cats that stolish.
Speaker 2: It must have eight.
Speaker 1: But I'm like this, there's nothing wrong with you doing
Speaker 1: something else or even being normal, because who's to say
Speaker 1: that you wouldn't be making triple times the money you
Speaker 1: making right now if you was working on somebody's construction site,
Speaker 1: or if you had the education to go fuck it,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go be a graphic designer. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: be an influencer people, I'm gonna go be this or
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go do this. Like it seems like every
Speaker 1: nobody wants to be the motherfucker behind and niggas make
Speaker 1: money behind the scenes, right.
Speaker 2: I wanted to be behind the scenes, you know. I
Speaker 2: never wanted to be on no damn show. Dog. It's like,
Speaker 2: you know what, though, my thing is this, but I
Speaker 2: do tell people. It's what I tell him. I remember
Speaker 2: I was talking to Big you shout out to my
Speaker 2: home with Big U, you know, he going through this
Speaker 2: situation now, and he told me he was gonna do
Speaker 2: his podcast, right m I said, that's interesting. I didn't
Speaker 2: tell him not to do it. I said, what is
Speaker 2: it gonna be about? He said, Oh, I'm gonna do
Speaker 2: the same thing you doing what y'all doing. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go up there and talk to some homies and talk
Speaker 2: to a few rappers. I said, okay. And I said,
Speaker 2: so he's about to join the other million million other
Speaker 2: people out there. Now he has a name for himself.
Speaker 2: He's made a name for himself, right, So he probably
Speaker 2: don't get more attention than the average man would because
Speaker 2: he does know a lot of people and Big You
Speaker 2: is a very polarizing dude. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: He got a lot of relation, very some true, some not.
Speaker 2: Tree got a whole bunch of stuff behind his name. Right,
Speaker 2: people know who Big U is, right, And I'll tell
Speaker 2: you what this. As quick as people quick to embrace
Speaker 2: you when you on the streets, man, them same people
Speaker 2: are turned around the stabb you right in your back
Speaker 2: when you're going through something I have not seen. No,
Speaker 2: Like when I saw you've seen go to jail, dog,
Speaker 2: That shit made me sad. I thought that was real.
Speaker 2: Sat I said, this man, don't try to change his life.
Speaker 2: Dog out here doing a whole bunch you know. Fuck
Speaker 2: all the speculation and what they talk about. What he did,
Speaker 2: that's his business. That's between him and God.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: But I do know for a fact that the homie
Speaker 2: done a whole bunch of good shit too, Right, You
Speaker 2: get a whole bunch of good stuff off off other
Speaker 2: stuff I can't speak on. I wasn't in you jeans, bitch.
Speaker 2: I wasn't in big Us business. He was always hospitable
Speaker 2: to me, right, I never saw none of that. He
Speaker 2: was always cool. I've been over his house before. It
Speaker 2: was always cool. You want something drink, you want something
Speaker 2: to eat, you know, you go. He loved he loved
Speaker 2: this football program. You go over to the Crenshaw Dog.
Speaker 2: He was gonna give you some of the Lamberger's dog
Speaker 2: or one of them briskly sandwiches they had over there. Dog.
Speaker 2: He was just a cool nigga. Oh you know, shut
Speaker 2: out to him. Man, I hope, he hope whatever his
Speaker 2: situation is. Man, he holding his head up dog, you know,
Speaker 2: because he was you know, he was.
Speaker 1: Done right, like I said, Sometimes you don't know. You
Speaker 1: just don't know. Like I said, Uh, only only those
Speaker 1: who you know, only those who were intricate in his
Speaker 1: day to day or his lifetime, would know, you know,
Speaker 1: what what happens, just like you know, you know we all.
Speaker 2: Got to pay brother. You Nobody.
Speaker 1: Nobody whether if it's like with Puff, just like with
Speaker 1: Puff Daddy, you know, hidding ship. Nobody knows. But when
Speaker 1: you know, you know, you feel me and thats and
Speaker 1: then it's unfortunate that if your hands are still connected
Speaker 1: or associated or even rubbing shoulders with then if they
Speaker 1: out to get you, they just out to get you.
Speaker 2: It's just guarantee you if niggas files or footage which
Speaker 2: you were just at a party. You could be hanging
Speaker 2: out of the party not even be told a puff.
Speaker 2: You could be standing over here with your home with
Speaker 2: your drinking your hand. If puff could be over there
Speaker 2: doing something else totally different. Somebody would take that picture
Speaker 2: and say, here's an image of MCA that what a
Speaker 2: puffy us a freak offs.
Speaker 1: Well, unfortunate ou didn't hang out at freak offs, freak
Speaker 1: ins or freak ons and ship. You know, my class
Speaker 1: of people were on the regular. I dealt with normal people,
Speaker 1: so you would have never called me in no situations
Speaker 1: like that. You didn't know that.
Speaker 2: But you know what I'm saying, though, right, people were up.
Speaker 1: We just got to You gotta know who you associate with, though,
Speaker 1: You gotta really know who you associate with. And just
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, Uh, you know you
Speaker 1: probably you probably You probably went to more industry executive
Speaker 1: Hollywood Hills parties and I ever went to. I never
Speaker 1: got invited by executives to the parties. Even though I
Speaker 1: was signed to Sony and I did a lot of
Speaker 1: work for Epic and made records, I didn't get invited
Speaker 1: to a lot of the Hollywood Hills parties wouldn't do.
Speaker 2: Hugh was Man. I've been to a few when I
Speaker 2: had my job as my postman that was kind of like,
Speaker 2: you know, if they called.
Speaker 1: The Go network, right, they was like, that's Compton's most
Speaker 1: wanted to leave them right up in Compton.
Speaker 2: You remember the mansion when we first started looking up
Speaker 2: and you was gonna do you and show you a camp.
Speaker 2: There was some yeah yug the status. Remember that mansion
Speaker 2: that we was in. I had a party man for
Speaker 2: the homey. I helped the homie put together party up there, right,
Speaker 2: And when I tell you, man, it really amazed me.
Speaker 2: Man the people that was up in there, Like I
Speaker 2: would look around like, oh shit, they go such and such,
Speaker 2: and you be wondering, how the hell did these motherfuckers
Speaker 2: plod out about this party.
Speaker 1: Weren't get to rank about those type of engagements. You know.
Speaker 1: That's why I said they never crossed my fates because
Speaker 1: I didn't cross those territories. You know, I didn't go
Speaker 1: to Sony Hollywood. They had me going to Sony and
Speaker 1: Santa Monica, so I never ventured to Hollywood. They had
Speaker 1: to be going.
Speaker 2: Home, them home.
Speaker 1: When did they no? They had to be going to
Speaker 1: Colorado Boulevard. They didn't have to be telling me to Hollywood.
Speaker 1: You went to the office with just one or two
Speaker 1: people worked there. Not nobody worked as a secretary of
Speaker 1: front of the nigga to work in the bet that
Speaker 1: was it. I would only went on occasion. I only
Speaker 1: went to Stoney when I had to do like a
Speaker 1: out of state interview and the dude was coming from
Speaker 1: New York and some shit like that, or it was
Speaker 1: time to put the record out and I had to
Speaker 1: go free proof to the album cover ship. Like. Other
Speaker 1: than that, I love. I never went to Hollywood. It
Speaker 1: was always Monica.
Speaker 2: Speaking of albums, man, I know you fucked around and
Speaker 2: you've probably got two albums. Work for songs, put out
Speaker 2: a couple of albums, put out two double.
Speaker 1: I'm working on project right now. I think I'm gonna
Speaker 1: try to drop it. I'm gonna get it rubbings for
Speaker 1: a problem. Like let's say like what is this, Let's
Speaker 1: say October, we get it with Halloween, you know, dropping
Speaker 1: on Halloween.
Speaker 2: Fucking you're gonna put a double decker out there.
Speaker 1: You gonna put a double album out this stone and uh,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of change title from what I was previous,
Speaker 1: gonna call it. So we're gonna make it work this time.
Speaker 1: You know it's gonna be real interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you canna you gus eat on that
Speaker 2: and not be laughing, bro, because you be I asked
Speaker 2: you about a beat the summer, you will send me
Speaker 2: a song. I like this, dude. Eight. Look, those that
Speaker 2: don't know eight probably record fast than anybody. I don't
Speaker 2: ever seen in my life. I don't seen a lot
Speaker 2: of people record. He give me.
Speaker 1: I try not to waste time in the studio because
Speaker 1: if I can stay in the studio for four or
Speaker 1: five hours, I can get at least eight to ten
Speaker 1: on the spell. So to me, that's productive. Going the
Speaker 1: studio to doing a song, that's that's not productive to me.
Speaker 1: So I like to write my ship, go over, you know, study,
Speaker 1: get it down packed, and then once I do that
Speaker 1: for Matt, I'll do that a few times the songs
Speaker 1: I write. Then I'm just go in the studio with
Speaker 1: about ten songs and lay them off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna have with What's gonna be cool about this, man,
Speaker 2: is that you gonna be doing something we go have.
Speaker 2: There's gonna be a lot of surprise.
Speaker 1: People expect a lot, you know, with records today, you
Speaker 1: gotta keep them intrigued and keep the interest. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna have a few things ready for people and everything.
Speaker 1: So just just stay on point.
Speaker 2: Yeah real man, you know me, I'll always be having
Speaker 2: these big, grandiose ideas and then sometimes I gotta skill
Speaker 2: myself back because I'm like, man, that sounds dope. All
Speaker 2: we do.
Speaker 1: That, all right, so that small steps, small steps to
Speaker 1: get you to the bigger steps. So that's how I
Speaker 1: say we do it. You know, we do one thing
Speaker 1: out of time, take small steps and then your look
Speaker 1: up and everything and be done. And motherfuckers be like shit,
Speaker 1: we was taking what I'm.
Speaker 2: Thinking about doing. You know, we don't always have what
Speaker 2: we didn't do one this year, I think we probably
Speaker 2: had our four five hundred episodes, so I'm like that,
Speaker 2: I don't even remember where it is no more. But yeah,
Speaker 2: de Wheels is when we drop this album month. Thing
Speaker 2: about having an event, man, where we had the fans
Speaker 2: come out to where they get to come listen to
Speaker 2: the album, see some performances, like kind of like a
Speaker 2: private like listening party. Slash Constant, you know, Sloder nigga
Speaker 2: something to drink, give him a little hot dog or
Speaker 2: a taco or something, and then bang around and let
Speaker 2: him smoke on something and just chill and listen to
Speaker 2: the record and you know, you know, like I'm thinking
Speaker 2: something that fits in the lane. Like we need to
Speaker 2: have the setch, but we need to do our own
Speaker 2: setsh Like we need party. Slash says like listening party
Speaker 2: with people call that ship are listening? Such, Yeah, listening sis,
Speaker 2: because that'd be dope right there, and have people come
Speaker 2: out and really really promoted, because I should trip out
Speaker 2: all the people who king of stuff. Man, we ain't
Speaker 2: even promoted. We just might.
Speaker 1: You might go. Have to cut that out of this
Speaker 1: right there, because you know, we give niggas ideas. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be a thousand niggas doing it before we get
Speaker 1: it cracking. So you're going out, Sash. We got to
Speaker 1: cut that out. Yeah, we got to cut that off
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 2: One thing, no, man, I do want to say is
Speaker 2: that I shared some stuff with you earlier, man, because
Speaker 2: one thing I figured out going to this retreat man
Speaker 2: and getting to be clear, you know, getting clear headed man,
Speaker 2: not having no phone, not having no access none though,
Speaker 2: just you and your thoughts, right, I said, you know what, man,
Speaker 2: we don't like as human beings, we don't like sharing
Speaker 2: certain things about ourselves.
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying because you don't know how
Speaker 1: certain people gonna take situations. And let's just face that
Speaker 1: everybody's not grown up to deal with certain situations. You
Speaker 1: can't tell everything to everybody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for real, that's true. And I'm a private dude,
Speaker 2: but I you know when I was.
Speaker 1: And not to just say people are capable, but just
Speaker 1: some people just can't handle certain shit, you know, And
Speaker 1: that can be the simplest is of a regularcind conversation.
Speaker 1: You get me. So you gotta you gotta watch who
Speaker 1: you speak shit to and how you present ship. And
Speaker 1: if if you got information that's important that you want
Speaker 1: to relate to somebody, you gotta make sure that they
Speaker 1: the type of motherfuckers that you know are solid and
Speaker 1: won't be telling your information just on the strength.
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna never be want of them to do
Speaker 2: to put off my business up there on the show.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean that, I'm just want of
Speaker 2: them dudes that believe you got to keep some stuff
Speaker 2: for yourself and your tight circle you feel men, We'll say, man, this,
Speaker 2: I think everybody should go on one of the retreats.
Speaker 2: And just one thing we had the fortunate we had
Speaker 2: the privilege of doing eight was being around before with
Speaker 2: cell phones and all the other stuff. Remember when you
Speaker 2: went somewhere he was kind of free broke, you know,
Speaker 2: then you had to pay your pay You just you know,
Speaker 2: you can answer that as you want to do kind of.
Speaker 1: And you know, we used to know the parks and
Speaker 1: the beaches and take trips and and shit and go
Speaker 1: to the mountains camping or you know anything. Or even
Speaker 1: when you was a kid with your friends and shit,
Speaker 1: when you was out riding your bikes and playing, you
Speaker 1: wasn't distracted by who's texting me or paging me? Or
Speaker 1: let me check my email or I need to do
Speaker 1: Everything was sort of once you left the house, you
Speaker 1: left the house, you did me.
Speaker 2: You was gone and couldn't nobody catch you. Now you
Speaker 2: may come home and have a note and the refrigerated
Speaker 2: such and such call, such and such call, and then
Speaker 2: you know, we had to look. We had the little
Speaker 2: voicemails later on the look voice recorder when you put
Speaker 2: your music on that talk on there like what's that
Speaker 2: you know, you know, just leave and you know you
Speaker 2: have some music. You might play some pump keep sweat
Speaker 2: for thirty seconds. Man, it thedn't they have your own
Speaker 2: you know, your little answering service man. But we too
Speaker 2: discompositated nowadays, man, with just content everybody and everybody's business
Speaker 2: broke and all this shit is faked.
Speaker 1: Dog see it.
Speaker 2: Motherfucker's I know for a fact they ain't got no jobs,
Speaker 2: but they doing all this traffic and I'm like, damn,
Speaker 2: this dude doing all this travel.
Speaker 1: Man, I'm trying not just stay on other people. Shit. Man,
Speaker 1: what our focus on is what's going on right here,
Speaker 1: and that's it. People gonna do what they do and
Speaker 1: leve they lives and shit, I'm on to the next.
Speaker 2: Yeah, real, cut that shit off sometimes, man. On that note, Man,
Speaker 2: we got here though, shure.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: That concludes another episode of the Gainst the Chronicles podcast.
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