1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 2 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty and he Armstrong and Getty. 4 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 3: FEMA officials say they have already distributed three hundred and 5 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 3: forty four million dollars worth of assistance to victims of 6 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,959 Speaker 3: Hurricane Helene in six states. FEMA has also shifted more 7 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 3: than seventeen million meals and nearly fourteen million liters of 8 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 3: water to the disaster area. As a result, FEMA is 9 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 3: plowing through its disaster relief budget and the Small Business 10 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 3: Administration could run out of money for low interest home 11 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 3: rebuilding loans by the end of the month. 12 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 2: Well, we're glad we're talking to somebody who's on the 13 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,279 Speaker 2: ground in those areas, because it's hard to tell from 14 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: national stories how hurricane relief is actually going talking about 15 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: the first big Hurricane Helene and specifically North Carolina, and. 16 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: I think the attention being paid to what the federal 17 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: government is doing is fine and good, and they certainly 18 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: have a role, But as anybody who's lived through this 19 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 1: sort of thing knows, it's the state and then local 20 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: entities that provide a tremendous amount of the humanitarian relief 21 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: and the assistance when times are dark, which is why 22 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: we're helping to raise money for the good folks at 23 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: the United Way of Ashville and Buncom County, and their 24 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: president CEO, Dan Leroy, joins us. 25 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: Now, Dan, how are you, sir. 26 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 4: I'm doing all right. Thanks for having me today. 27 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 2: Busier than heck, I'm sure. Yeah. How are things in 28 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:40,279 Speaker 2: your area at this point? 29 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 5: Well, things are still pretty crazy, still pretty dire. You know, 30 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 5: this hurricane hit us so much harder. 31 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 4: Than we ever could have imagined. 32 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 5: And I'm sure your listeners have seen all of the 33 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 5: images and it is just as bad as folks have 34 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 5: seen it. It has just wiped out in structure across 35 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 5: our region and certainly here in Buncom County, from the 36 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 5: smaller towns like Swananoa, Barnardsville, Black Mountain. We're just so 37 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 5: hard hit that in many cases, you know, whole neighborhoods 38 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 5: are gone and having to be rebuilt. And so the 39 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 5: good news is a lot of our infrastructure is starting 40 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 5: to come back. A lot of folks have power now, 41 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 5: Dell service is pretty ubiquitous, which was not the case 42 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 5: even a week ago, and so that helps a lot 43 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 5: with communication. But in our county specifically, the biggest problem 44 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 5: that we have is water. The municipal water system was 45 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 5: basically wiped out, and we have what I would describe 46 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 5: as a heroic effort not just by our public Worse Department, 47 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 5: but by you know, partners from across the Southeast that 48 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 5: have come into support and rebuilding this because it's so 49 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 5: critical for our business community, it's critical for our schools, 50 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,839 Speaker 5: and you know, you can't do anything without running water. 51 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 5: So that's the biggest issue for us right now. 52 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 2: So before we get into some of the relief stuff, 53 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: Joe and I worked in North Carolina for a couple 54 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 2: of years, and I I was foot loose and fancy 55 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 2: free and single and childless. So I did a lot 56 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 2: of travel on North Carolina, spent a lot of time 57 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 2: in the Ashville area, really really enjoyed it. But did 58 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 2: was he even on your mind most of you around 59 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: there that this hurricane was going to be a big deal? 60 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 2: At what point did you realize holy crap? 61 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I'll tell you. 62 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 5: One of the things that we have thought about ourselves 63 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 5: and talked to other folks about. 64 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 4: Ourselves here in western North Carolina. 65 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 5: Is just how resilient this area is and and sort 66 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 5: of the kinds of natural disasters that were used to 67 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 5: thinking about, whether it's the you know, the big fires 68 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 5: that they have out west, or you know, the huge 69 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 5: hurricanes that you see on the coastlines, or even the 70 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 5: you know, the tornadoes that. 71 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 4: You see in the Midwest. 72 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 5: We've been pretty well insulated from all of that for 73 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 5: a long time. And so this storm was truly unique 74 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 5: in that we got thirteen inches of rain that you 75 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 5: know that two days before the hurricane even came this way. Wow, 76 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 5: in a single day, right, And so it was a 77 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 5: very unusual weather pattern that basically soaked every we had. 78 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 5: We had flooding, you know, like you wouldn't see for 79 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 5: you know, in the last decade before the hurricane hit. 80 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 4: Oh, and so that was really what made it so unique. 81 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 5: And so no, we were not I don't think anyone 82 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 5: could have imagined the level of impact here because it's 83 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 5: such an unusual weather. 84 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: Event and then a quick one before we move on, 85 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 2: how long were we all without self service? So all 86 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 2: this happens, it wasn't even on your mind all of 87 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: a sudden, things are just devastated homes are gone and 88 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,559 Speaker 2: roads are covered, and wondering how long were you without 89 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 2: self service? You couldn't even talk to anybody. 90 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 5: Well, it's you know, to sort of answer your first 91 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 5: question from before, I think it was probably Tuesday that 92 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 5: the Tuesday before the hurricane hit on Friday morning, essentially 93 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 5: where folks were starting to kind of look around at 94 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,799 Speaker 5: the radar and say, okay, this could be a big problem. 95 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 4: And so, you know, and to just give you an idea, 96 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 4: I was actually. 97 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 5: At a conference in Salt Lake City, so I was 98 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 5: not on the ground. So I had information that nobody 99 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 5: in our community, and certainly none of my colleagues or 100 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 5: teammates or partners had because they couldn't talk to each 101 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 5: other really for. 102 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 4: About two days. 103 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 5: If you were a part of, you know, some kind 104 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 5: of emergency response operations, they were able to stand up 105 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 5: in different places, access to self service and Wi Fi 106 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 5: and those kinds of things. But for the first couple 107 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 5: of days, I couldn't even talk to my family who 108 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 5: was in town to make sure that the folks here 109 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 5: in our house and everything else was okay. So it 110 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 5: was pretty much like in the dark for most people 111 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 5: within the affected region for about forty eight hours. 112 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: Wow, and then you're talking about the catastrophic damage to 113 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: the water treatment system. It could be weeks before there's 114 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: running water correct or even longer. 115 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. 116 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 5: And it's not the treatment system, it's the distribution system, Okay. 117 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 4: And so they have, like I said, they have been able. 118 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 5: To get the main line inter reconnected, which is pretty incredible, 119 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 5: but there's a lot of time that it's going to 120 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 5: take to actually work through the entire system. They say 121 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 5: that the linear feat of our water system here is 122 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 5: the equivalent of the distance between here and Miami and back. 123 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 5: So you can imagine it's a lot of line that 124 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 5: needs to be cleared out. 125 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 4: And so they aren't giving us estimates. But you know, 126 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 4: it's interesting. 127 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 5: We do a lot of work in partnership with our schools, 128 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 5: and you know, we we have schools that are drilling 129 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 5: wells right now in their ball field because they want 130 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 5: to make sure not just for this getting water back, 131 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 5: but in the future because obviously it's everything. So we 132 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 5: don't have a clear estimate for when it could be back, 133 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 5: but it's. 134 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 4: Definitely in the order of weeks and not in newer 135 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 4: of days. 136 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: So for what it's worth for folks, who haven't been there, 137 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: you know. And I spent a week in Ashville slash 138 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: Waynesville this past July. I have family there, and I 139 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: love the area. It's not only beautiful geographically, but it's 140 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: just so interesting because you have, you know, conservative retirees 141 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: and kind of your traditional we've lived in the mountains 142 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: for generations conservatism. You've got tattooed and pierced waitresses and 143 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: artists and just the most amazing mix of people in 144 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,239 Speaker 1: that area. And it's fun and funky, and it's very 145 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: very American, and it's just the devastation is astounding. So anyway, 146 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: if folks listening get a chance, if you can spare 147 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: a couple of bucks or more, go to Armstrong you 148 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: getty dot com. The banner is you can't miss it. 149 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: Donate what you can to help out to your fellow Americans, and. 150 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 2: It's going directly to you. What can that money do 151 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 2: for you? If we can get our listeners to throw 152 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: a couple of bucks your way and you get a 153 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 2: pile of money, what can you do with that short term? 154 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 4: Sure thing? 155 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I just want to echo what you just 156 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 5: said in terms of the incredible diversity of our communities here, 157 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 5: and what's been so beautiful to watch is the way 158 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 5: that you know, those barriers have been broken down and 159 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 5: we have people just working together, Neighbors helping neighbors, the organizations, 160 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 5: community organizations helping you know, whoever's out there in their 161 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 5: community without regard to any of that affiliation. So that's 162 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 5: been beautiful. Our focus really is right now. We are 163 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 5: recruiting thousands of volunteers and working with our community organization 164 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 5: partners to identify where are the volunteers most needed and 165 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 5: being able to connect those volunteers to those organizations doing 166 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 5: the work on the ground. We also have created a 167 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 5: disaster relief fund which will go to these community organizations 168 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 5: who are directly impacted by the hurricane itself and the 169 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 5: other thing that we're doing that this would support us 170 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 5: that we're working really closely with our partners at the 171 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 5: City of Asheville and Buncott County to help coordinate the 172 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 5: thousands of tons of supplies that are coming into our 173 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 5: region through these donations and to make sure that they 174 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 5: are have a safe place to go to be sorted, 175 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 5: and then to get out the door to our community 176 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 5: partners who are most proximate to the neighborhoods and the 177 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 5: folks that were most impacted by the storm. 178 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 1: Dan Leroy of the United Way of Ashville, Buncome County, 179 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: you guys are doing what is so sorely needed when 180 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: it's most needed, and you're all heroes. Keep at it. 181 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: We'll see what we can raise for y'all and good luck. 182 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: We're thinking of you. 183 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,719 Speaker 5: Well, thank you for shinning a spotlight on this. It's 184 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 5: going to be a need for a really long time, 185 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 5: so all the support that we can get from your 186 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 5: listeners is very much appreciated. 187 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 1: Excellent point, you got it. Thanks Dan, great to talk 188 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: to you. 189 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's going to be a problem for a while obviously, 190 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 2: and they'll run out of money quick if they don't 191 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 2: have a big parliament. And if you're the sort of 192 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: person listening to the show, you probably believe in local, small, 193 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 2: over giant far away, and this is a way to 194 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 2: get money, like to the source or where they're actually 195 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 2: you know, the people getting the money or their families 196 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 2: are dealing with this as opposed to bureaucrats somewhere far 197 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 2: away who lives are comfortable and they don't really care 198 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 2: right exactly. This goes directly to the need, and the 199 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 2: number of news pieces I've seen on how many people's 200 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: insurance doesn't cover this for all kinds of different complicated reasons, like, well, 201 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 2: you had flood insurance, but flood insurance caused by a 202 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 2: river rising, not by a hurricane, so sorry, it doesn't count, 203 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 2: or you just all kinds of different caveats. 204 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: Oh right, and then you got to get into the lawyers. 205 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: Well it rained thirteen inches two days before. Well we 206 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: think it was the hurricane. So it's a nightmare. But 207 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: before you even get there, the roads are gone. It's 208 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: not that they're flooded, gone, the bridges are gone, the 209 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: water distribution system doesn't. 210 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 2: Work, and what for weeks? 211 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's like civilization, modernity was blotted out 212 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: for a huge swath of you know, one of our 213 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: most populated states. 214 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, as I saw one guy say, the houses are gone, 215 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 2: but so's the land the houses used to sit on, 216 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 2: so that you can't build a house there again. 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Run your game Strong. 249 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 2: So we got a little Tim Walls coming up for you. 250 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 2: Is on ABC, what's their show, Good Morning America talking 251 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 2: to the former football player Michael Strahan, who hits him 252 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 2: with some questions, and Tim Wallas goes back into his 253 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 2: I don't know why he hasn't come up with an 254 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 2: answer yet for all of his stories, but. 255 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: It's astonishing that he hasn't. That's what he's doing. 256 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 2: I just watch it. It's better than it was during 257 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 2: the debate, but it's still not as good as it 258 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 2: should be anyway. Also on the topic of the campaign, 259 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 2: but slightly different, Kamala Harris is doing her media blitz 260 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 2: this week, which accornered a lot of my favorite pundits 261 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 2: who talk to people behind the scenes, including Democrats. They're 262 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 2: worried that she's doing all softball friendly interviews. Still playing 263 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 2: it safe and making no news's in. She's either tied 264 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 2: or behind, and you gotta be making some news. You 265 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 2: gotta be on offense. You got to be moving the 266 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 2: ball down the field. Just getting out of an interview 267 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 2: without screwing up is not going. 268 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: To do it. I'd argue, she's not even doing that. 269 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: She's missing the softballs. She's with him anyway. 270 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 2: Howard Stern, which used to be a scary place for 271 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 2: anybody to go to get interviewed because he was all 272 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 2: about making news by being naughty, gave her a heck 273 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 2: of a softball interview the other day. I mean, just 274 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 2: as obsequious and fawning as you could possibly get. 275 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 4: Great. 276 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 2: Guttfeld was talking about that on his show on Fox 277 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 2: the other night, and here's how that went. I mean, 278 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: talk about a transition. 279 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 6: On Tuesday, he conducted an interview with Kamala Harris that 280 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 6: was so simpering and feminine. I got my period while 281 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 6: listening to it. You should hear what keeps him up 282 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 6: at night. 283 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 7: This is what keeps me up night. I don't understand how, 284 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 7: my fellow Americans, I don't even understand how this election 285 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 7: is close. Yes, I'm voting for you, but I would 286 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 7: also vote for that wall over there. 287 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 2: Well, he's half right. We do need a wall. 288 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 6: You had to keep out gang members, Fendyl dealers, human traffickers, 289 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 6: and Anna and Navarro. Stern has become such a whissified 290 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 6: sick of a fan. He doesn't realize that telling Kamala that 291 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 6: he votes for a wall is telling her that he 292 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 6: knows she's as dumb as. 293 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 2: One not to mention. 294 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 6: Trump is the wall candidate, not cackles McNee pads. Oh, 295 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 6: used to throw boloney slices at stripper's butt with accuracy, 296 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 6: I might add, cackles McNee pads. 297 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: Oh, that's kind of rough. I like these sipprings so 298 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: much estrogen I got my period. Oh my god. Anyway, 299 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: he goes on, here's Stern. 300 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 6: On anyone daring to poke a little fun at Kamala. 301 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 7: Even when I watched them on Saturday Night Live with 302 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 7: the where they have Maya Rudolph playing you, I hate it. 303 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 7: I don't want you being made fun of. Oh my god, 304 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 7: it's too much at stake. I believe the entire future 305 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 7: of this country right now, I mean as America, Land 306 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 7: of the Free, Home of the brave. I think it's 307 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 7: literally on the line. 308 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 6: So a guy who's supposed to be funny for a 309 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 6: living now claims her candidacy. 310 00:15:58,560 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 2: Is too important to joke about. 311 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 6: This is the guy who once joked, right after the 312 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 6: column by massacre that the killers should have raped the 313 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 6: students before killing them. Not that I like that, Stern, 314 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 6: But this pendulum swing from saying the most tasteless thing 315 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 6: in the universe to putting your balls in a tic 316 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 6: tac container, you gotta wonder. 317 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 2: What's going on here. 318 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 6: It's striking that the king of the most misogynistic humor 319 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 6: ever now turns into a breathless over a progressive, hopelessly 320 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 6: shallow candidate. 321 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 2: How about freaking Howard Stern of all people saying it 322 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 2: really bothers me when they make jokes about you. They 323 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: shouldn't do that. It's too important. You don't want jokes 324 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 2: about politicians. Wow, the worshipfulness of it. Wow, humor, humor 325 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 2: is off limits for politicians on my side. From Howard 326 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 2: Stern who used to think obviously, as you just heard there, 327 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 2: nothing was out of bounds for humor. Nothing right, right, 328 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 2: It's an interesting aspect of Trump derangement syndrome that you 329 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 2: get how would I phrase this? You get cipher. 330 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: That's the kind of fancy word idiot worshipfulness syndrome. If 331 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: something is not or not Trump, I must love it. 332 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: If it is against Trump, I love it, which explains 333 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 1: keeping the kids out of school and the plastic screen 334 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: at the seven eleven, and anything that defies Trump, I 335 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: love automatically. 336 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 2: I just I love it. 337 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: She's an idiot, she has no beliefs, but she's not Trump, 338 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: so I love her. 339 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 7: Well. 340 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 2: A gut film made a good point. Stern saying I'd 341 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 2: vote for that wall over there is not exactly a 342 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 2: ringing endorsement. It's a you could be anybody and I 343 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 2: would vote for you, right exactly, Yeah, you could. 344 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: You could be I don't know, talentless, have no principles, 345 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: a half wit word salad spout, chippering moron, and I 346 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:02,719 Speaker 1: would still vote for you. 347 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 2: Wow. I hope I never become that person. I watched 348 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 2: Maya Rudolph and I just think they shouldn't be joking 349 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 2: about this. It's too serious. 350 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 8: Wowis So there's a couple of low points in my life. 351 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 8: I'm not I'm passing a line, and I'm gonna have 352 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 8: a grand slam. The grand slams are the key I 353 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 8: feel like at my theater checking the AA there or 354 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 8: an institute of some sort, because this is crap. 355 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 2: It's full of crap. This is crap. It's full of crap. 356 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 2: There's an unhappy Philly fan by being knocked out by 357 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 2: the Mets, who are moving on to the Championship Series 358 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 2: against either the Dodgers or the Padres. Will find that 359 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 2: out later today. She says the loss was worse than 360 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 2: her dog time. Wow, well the dog was old. 361 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: The Phillies were supposed to go on exactly anyway, and 362 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 1: they Yeah, I'm a Royals fan. So the Yankees beat 363 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 1: the Royals last night, and they're gonna be She got 364 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: the Yankees and the Mets both in the Championship Series 365 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: kill me in terms of national media coverage. Hmm, yeah, 366 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 1: that will be profoundly annoying. On the other coast, I 367 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: was explaining to a friend of mine from Elseware about 368 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,719 Speaker 1: why California is so screwed up, and it's politically speaking, 369 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 1: and it's it's primarily because the Democratic Party has entered 370 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: into this unwholly corrupt marriage with all of the public 371 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: employee unions, and the government serves only to do the 372 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: bidding of the unions and they throw the people a 373 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: bone now and again just to to you know, cover 374 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 1: up the scam. But the unions nominate the politicians who 375 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 1: get elected with the votes and contributions of the unions, 376 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: and then the politicians who are former union officials then 377 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: give the unions anything they want until they're turned out, 378 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: and then a new union guy takes the government post. 379 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: And my great fear, because I've always been an optimist 380 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 1: about the United States and our people and our system 381 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: is that. And you know, our old friend Tom McClintock, 382 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: the Conservative rep from California, always said, you know, we've 383 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: we've run into all sorts of problems in this country, 384 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: and what's great about it will fix them. My problem 385 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: is this that now they have enough bulk of the 386 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: union two way straight thing, the feedback loop, whatever you 387 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 1: want to call it, the population at large, unless they 388 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: get like crazy fired up, don't really have the numbers 389 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: to turn out well, at least in terms of the 390 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: usual turnout numbers. That just not enough regular people who 391 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: just want a healthy, functioning government turnout. So election after 392 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: election goes to the union owned Democratic Party anyway, that's a. 393 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 2: That's definitely the government you deserve, I suppose. 394 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: Although they're they're smart people, I mean, they're utterly corrupt, 395 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: and they're they're treasonous to me, they are betraying their 396 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: their most sacred vowels. But they are smart, and so 397 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: they limit the tax paying pool as much as they can. 398 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: So the people who really really care that their money 399 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: is being squandered and given away in this unholy marriage, 400 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: they are way too few in number to win an election. 401 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 1: So anyway, it's a scam that is so efficient and 402 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: so morally bankrupt, I'm not sure how to beat it. Anyway, 403 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: So I'm pretty discouraged about the state of California, especially 404 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: and the state I happened to grow up in Illinois, 405 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: because Illinois politics, because of the population, is Chicago politics, 406 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: and what's happening in Chicago is crazy, makes California look reasonable. 407 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: So the mayor, Brandon Johnson, who was a union official, 408 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: a Chicago teachers Union official, and the teachers union, because 409 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: that has many, many thousands of employees and a hell 410 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 1: of a lot of money, got him elected mayor. So 411 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: now his only job is to reward the Chicago Teachers Union, 412 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: and so he's. 413 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 2: In the middle. The city's in the middle of. 414 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: Quote unquote negotiating what is likely to be a costly 415 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: new contract with the CTU, which is Johnson's largest campaign contributor. 416 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: Since the Chicago School District can't afford the hefty races 417 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: and benefits that CTU demands, the mayor has suggested, get this, 418 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: that the Chicago Public Schools take out a three hundred 419 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: million dollar short term high interest loan to cover the shortfall. 420 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 2: That sounds like your friend who wants to buy a 421 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 2: boat and is already paycheck to paycheck. 422 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, excuse me, taking a sip of coffee, and he 423 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: hasn't even suggested, well, wait a minute, we don't have 424 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: the money now, so we're going to take out a 425 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: short term high interest loan. How are we going to 426 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 1: pay that back? Brandon is uninterested as a matter of 427 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: fact and brand. 428 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 2: They're always uninterested because the government officials know if they 429 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 2: can just get the money spent, that's somebody else's problem. 430 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,199 Speaker 2: I mean it'll down there before Yeah, they'll be a 431 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 2: leverage to raise taxes or whatever. 432 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 1: Just got to get it on the books, right, which 433 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 1: is why neither party is talking about Medicare right now. 434 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: In social Security or the entitlement programs in short, because 435 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,239 Speaker 1: you just you wait for the disaster, partly because you 436 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: cannot convince the electorate to make sacrifices before it's a disaster, 437 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: because the other guy will say those sacrifices aren't necessary. 438 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: They're trying to take away your bloody blah or they're 439 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: trying to balance the budget on the back of the 440 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: blah blah. And then the disaster happens, the bloody bla, 441 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: and everybody's like, how did this happen? And then you know, 442 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: the politician says, we got no choice. You gotta do 443 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 1: these hard things. So if that's just the nature of democracy, 444 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: and I ought to just deal with it. But here's 445 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: the funny part. Here's the part I really wanted to 446 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: get to. Let's see, this is from the Wall Street 447 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: Journal editorial board. They say, voters deserve what they get 448 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: in a democracy, but no one deserves Chicago may or 449 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: Brandon Johnson, and certainly not Chicago school children. You know, 450 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: that's the heartbreaking part. No kidding in seeking to reward 451 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 1: his union benefactor. And then you know when these poor kids, 452 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: who are in large number black and Hispanic whatever, when 453 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: they don't achieve in these utterly corrupt schools. It'll be 454 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: blamed on white supremacy and systemic racism and whatever. And 455 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: Johnson and his ilk Kamala Harris are hardcore against school choice. No, 456 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: you will stay in your corrupt union bound at neighborhood 457 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: school anyway. So his honor is having in seeking to 458 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: reward his union benefactors. His honor is having a political 459 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 1: meltdown for the ages. On Monday, mister Johnson replaced the 460 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: entire Chicago school Board with his allies after the previous 461 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: board resigned on Moss last Friday. Every air sucking homo 462 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: sapien on the school board said we will not be 463 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: party to this. 464 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 2: We quit, and that's progressive Chicago. It was too much 465 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 2: for those folks. 466 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: The previous board opposed the mayor's three hundred million dollars 467 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: high in tresloan. We were talking about that to hand 468 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: raises to the CTU, which funded his election campaign. Asked 469 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: about the opposition to his loan scheme, mister Johnson pulled out, 470 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: wait for it, the slavery card. Yeah, and I quote, 471 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: when our people wanted to be liberated and emancipated in 472 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: this country. The argument was, you can't free black people. 473 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: Because it would be too expensive. They said that it 474 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: would be fiscally irresponsible for this country. 475 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 2: To liberate black people. 476 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 1: And now you have detractors making the same argument of 477 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: the Confederacy when it comes to the public education in 478 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: this system. 479 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 2: Wow. And this is with all the numbers that we've 480 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 2: talked about over the last year or so of the 481 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 2: achievement rate in Chicago, where you've got lots of schools 482 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 2: where it would seem that it wouldn't make any difference 483 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 2: if they were not open at all, right, because nobody 484 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 2: reaches his the proficiency level. 485 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: So literally nobody in some of the schools zero kids 486 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: actually zero percent reach reading and writing proficiency. So there's 487 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: just what do you even open for let alones asking 488 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: for more money? 489 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 2: How about we just close them down? The same result, 490 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 2: right exactly. 491 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: It's and you know, Jack, occasionally you god bless you, 492 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: will say how do these people sleep at night? The 493 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: answer is they have no shame. They're criminals, They're they're victimizers. 494 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 2: On some levels like this, you'd have to be just 495 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,199 Speaker 2: to be have to be the criminal mind. It's just 496 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 2: like I'm stealing from people, because there's no twisting that 497 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 2: into a I'm doing the right thing for the kids. 498 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 2: There's just no way, right. 499 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, that's the pose, and anybody who falls 500 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: for it as a sucker. You're not maybe you're not 501 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: the facts. I'm not gonna try to hurt anybody's feelings. 502 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: But oh yeah, the whole teacher's union thing, depending on 503 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: where you are, it's it's more scammy than others. But 504 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 1: so the accountants in the audience, I'm sure are are 505 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: asking now, Joseph, you've said that their high interest loans. 506 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: Tell me more about that. Well, the Chicago school district 507 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: is junk rated. When they borrow money, their IOUs are 508 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: rated as junk in the world of bonds, meaning you 509 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: might get your money back. So mister Johnson's plan for 510 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 1: the three hundred million dollar loan would cost Chicago Public 511 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 1: Schools not three hundred million. 512 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 2: Seven hundred million dollars. 513 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: So he is going to pay off the teachers union 514 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: three hundred million dollars at the cost of taxpayers of 515 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: seven hundred million dollars over the short term. I abhor 516 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: the very idea of political violence. On the other hand, 517 00:27:54,160 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: theft of this size and utter ammorality has been dealt 518 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: with throughout human history. 519 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 2: In various ways. 520 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: Now he careful and constitutional investigation and prosecution is probably 521 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: the best way to deal with it. On the other hand, 522 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: if one's mind flies to tar and feathers, I can't 523 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 1: blame you. 524 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 2: I was trying to find it. A tweet I came 525 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 2: across the other day from several years back during the pandemic, 526 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 2: when Brandon Johnson whatever he was at the time, then 527 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 2: tweeted out that this effort to reopen the schools reeks 528 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 2: of white supremacy and blah blah blah. Why is the 529 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 2: president of the Chicago Teachers You. Oh, that's right, that's 530 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 2: what he was doing at that point, that this effort 531 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 2: to reopen the schools reeks of white supremacy. That's why 532 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 2: people want to reopen the schools. 533 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: That's why they want to get the little black kids 534 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: back to learning because of white supremacy. Good, good argument. 535 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: And now he's playing the effing slavery card. 536 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 2: You have. This guy is a monster, You just have 537 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 2: to be a criminal. But people vote for him. I 538 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 2: just said, what do you do? 539 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: It's a proof that democracy Chicago crumble monarchy. Now, well, 540 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: there are progressive cities and states around the country that 541 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: are realizing the air of their ways and trying to 542 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: backtrack a little bit? How far will Chicago fall? And 543 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: and you know, if another generation, a little kids or whatever. 544 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 2: Color their skin happens to be for goodness sakes. 545 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: Grow up completely uneducated and have no good options. But crime, 546 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: that's not an oh well. I mean this sol it'll 547 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: take Chicago another generation and a half or so to 548 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: figure out. 549 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 2: How screwed up it is. That's a tragedy. But what 550 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 2: are you gonna do? I we got a funny clip 551 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 2: from Trump at one of his rallies. He's going to Aurora, 552 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:47,239 Speaker 2: Colorado today to point out the whole Venezuelan takeover of 553 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 2: apartment complexes thingy. And so we'll play a little bit 554 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 2: from that. Also got to ask Joe about one of 555 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 2: his favorite hobbies that is now becoming a sport. They're 556 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 2: declaring his sports. So stay tuned for that, lea, Yeah, 557 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 2: stay tuned for among other things. 558 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 9: Right, are you surprised that she's not doing like five 559 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 9: events a day like barnstorming. I mean, there's only twenty 560 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 9: six days barnstorming every battleground state three or four events 561 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 9: a day. Forget the interview thing, Okay, I realize I'm 562 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 9: biased as a reporter. 563 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 2: I want interviews the. 564 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 9: Local news for the local news, interviews, town halls round like, 565 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 9: it just seems like it doesn't feel like October with. 566 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 2: The schedules I'm looking at for both of them. But 567 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 2: I kind of think he has the edge right now. Yeah, 568 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 2: that's Jake Tapper on CNN saying what a lot of 569 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 2: Democrats are apparently saying behind the scenes, what is she doing? 570 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 2: I mean, when is she? Is she gonna at some point? 571 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 2: You know how presidential candidates usually are in the closing weeks. 572 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 2: They're like on a plane from five in the morning 573 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 2: till eleven at night, and we all marvel at their 574 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 2: schedules and think, how would anybody do that She's doing, Like, yeah, 575 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 2: I'll go to a Marrabi state and do a luncheon 576 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,040 Speaker 2: this afternoon, but I'm leaving at eleven. I want to 577 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 2: me back by four. 578 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: Why what this is the mirror image of back when 579 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: you know, after the debate and everybody's saying, Joe's got 580 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: to get out there and show they still has it. 581 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: It's got to do interviews in town halls and a 582 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: parises and stuff. And the answer, obviously was he can't. 583 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 2: He's not up to it. That's the same reason that 584 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 2: Kamala is not doing what she's doing. 585 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: She goes to get softballs like what would you do 586 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: differently than the previous administration? And she can't string together 587 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: thirty seconds of BS to adequately answer that question. 588 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 2: She's awful. She could do rallies though she's good at that. 589 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 2: Why isn't she doing eight rallies today in four different states. 590 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 2: Nobody see him drunk. You see drunk. 591 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: So one of the great things I came across in 592 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: I think the New York Times a couple of years ago, 593 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: was the loss of hobbies in America, making the argument 594 00:31:55,040 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: that for some reason culturally, we had gotten into a 595 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: habit of if you can't turn a profit on this, 596 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: it's not worth doing. Yeah, yeah, And I found that 597 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: very very liberating for lots of different things that I 598 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: could be interested in. 599 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 2: Just do it because you like it, and it's for fun. 600 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 2: You don't. It's good for your brain, it's good for 601 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 2: your heart. Right, you don't have to like get into 602 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 2: painting or leather work, or or I've got a specific 603 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 2: thing I'm gonna mention here in a second mine playing 604 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 2: musical instruments. It was hard for me to do. But 605 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 2: to get to the point that I'm just doing this 606 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 2: because I like doing it. I don't need to have 607 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 2: in my mind how I'm gonna, you know, play in 608 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 2: front of people or put together a band or whatever. 609 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 2: I'm just doing it because I like it. 610 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: That's a perfectly good reason to play a musical. 611 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 2: Instrument or do lots of different things. So you know, 612 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 2: like if you like the knit scarves, you don't have 613 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 2: to have an Etsy site and figure out how many 614 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 2: you could make a week and how much money the 615 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,239 Speaker 2: yarn will cost and what the profit to do it. 616 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: Just do it because you'll even if they just go 617 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: on a drawer, you give them a good will. It's 618 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: perfectly reasonable. People have always had hobbies. In other words, 619 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: and tell your liberal friends if Trump wins, don't hang 620 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: yourself with this as you hand it to them. 621 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 2: But I came across this because I think this is 622 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 2: one of your things. You've mentioned a couple of times. 623 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 2: I've never unders one of. 624 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: My hobbies has become a sport. Self pleasurement is now 625 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: a sport. Sorry, obvious joke, folks, obvious that the comedy 626 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: the laws of physics of Comedy demanded, somebody make that joke. 627 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 2: Well, if it ever, if ever does become a sport, 628 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 2: clear room for a bust in the Hall of Fame. 629 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying, Katie. Katie's got her eyes closed. 630 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because I'm trying to take myself to my 631 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: happy place in a way. 632 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 2: From what you guys are saying. Anyway, now we'll try 633 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 2: to move on. We really should, Dick, Sorry, cut that 634 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 2: out of the podcast so nobody ever hears that, and 635 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 2: some that doesn't need to be hurt Bright anyway. Yeah. 636 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 2: The Federalist has an article today about how bird watching 637 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 2: is now a sport, should be considered a sport. Oh no, 638 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 2: it shouldn't. You have mentioned you're a birdwatcher. The only 639 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 2: reason I don't mock bird watching otherwise I would, is 640 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 2: because I just don't. I'd have no interest in watching birds. 641 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 2: But my grandma was into it, and I really liked 642 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 2: my grandma, and she had lots of books about it 643 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 2: and wrote down the birds she saw and everything like that, 644 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:21,959 Speaker 2: so she was into it. So I'm not gonna mind. 645 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 2: I for whatever reason, I just don't have any interest 646 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 2: in birds. If you told me the rarest bird in 647 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 2: the world was in the studio next door, I probably 648 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 2: wouldn't even walk over there and look at it. I 649 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 2: just don't care. 650 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: Well, if it's in the studio next door, something's gone 651 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: terribly wrong. But you don't trap them to watch. You 652 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: observe thee If I was sitting on my car the 653 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: parking lot, still I would I'd shoot it away so 654 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: it doesn't poop on my car, and I'd get my 655 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 1: car drive home. 656 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 2: Birdwatching is a sport. I'm not exactly sure what the 657 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 2: sport would part would be. 658 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: I know some people who are like crazy into it, 659 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: who want to cite the most birds and brag about 660 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: it and that sort of thing, and you know, to 661 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,760 Speaker 1: each their own. I suppose I just for for Judy 662 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 1: and me, it's boy, that's a pretty bird. 663 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 2: I wonder what that is and you figure it out. 664 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: Or we have apps that identify bird songs, so you 665 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: hear something tweeting melodically in the trees and. 666 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 2: You record it on the app, but it tells you 667 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 2: what bird it is. Wow, that's cool technology. So it's 668 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 2: like the Shazam for bird calls exactly. Yeah, wow, binoculars 669 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 2: in our bird books and stuff. I'm so anti bird. 670 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 2: When I go to the zoo, it's like the bird section, 671 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 2: It's like, why is that here? It's filler, It's like 672 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 2: the bran and raisin bran. You just you just had 673 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 2: to kill some of the space to claim you have 674 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 2: a big zoo. Nobody wants to see a bird what 675 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 2: the brand? And raisin brand is that? 676 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: What? What? Do you just want to eat a bowl 677 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: of raisins. Maybe that's a bad example, but I said 678 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: the other day, I said, a zoo with my daughter 679 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: and my wife. I said, you know, when I was 680 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: a kid, I had no interest in the birds, but 681 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: now there's just beautiful. Maybe maybe a j I'm not 682 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: sure it's a sport. Maybe it's my low tee Billiard's 683 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 1: not a sport. Bird watching sport golf, you say, it's no. 684 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: It depends who you are and how you play. But 685 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 1: as the great Jim Rome once said, if you can 686 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,280 Speaker 1: gain weight while you're doing something, it's not a sport. 687 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,720 Speaker 1: That I have no counter argument. Even though that sounds 688 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 1: like a joke. It's a pretty good way to define 689 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 1: a sport. 690 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 2: If you can gain weight doing it, it's not a sport. 691 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:24,320 Speaker 7: Armstrong and Getty