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Speaker 1: Probably horrified by the thought of it, I would certainly hope.
Speaker 1: So hey, I welcome back to that. We've talked a
Speaker 1: lot about the Roman Empire. Today, we are not talking
Speaker 1: about the Roman Empire today. We're really talking about the
Speaker 1: Ottoman Empire. But before we get clear to that, let's
Speaker 1: begin with where exactly we are in the world. The
Speaker 1: Roman Empire reached its height after Christ after all the nonsense,
Speaker 1: reached its height at one point where they controlled everything
Speaker 1: in the Mediterranean. I mean, gosh, they were in Britain,
Speaker 1: they were they were king dog And as empires do
Speaker 1: you peak, they peaked, and thus began a slow, steady decline.
Speaker 1: Does not happen all at once. Sometimes it does, sometimes
Speaker 1: it doesn't. Depends on the circumstances. When it comes to nations.
Speaker 1: If you've studied at all these empires who rise and fall,
Speaker 1: some will be at their peak. I mean, it really
Speaker 1: happened big time with the accumenated Persians. They were rocking
Speaker 1: and rolling, and all of a sudden they're just freaking gone.
Speaker 1: But in order to just be freaking gone like that,
Speaker 1: you need an Alexander the Great who helps push you along.
Speaker 1: You know, the Persians were gonna be fine. They were
Speaker 1: just gonna slowly, steadily decline, and people were gonna chip
Speaker 1: away at him, and then all of a sudden, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, there's this beast who cannot be stopped. So
Speaker 1: if you're going to decline rapidly when you're a super
Speaker 1: powerful nation, you really need another superpower to nudge you
Speaker 1: along militarily most of the time, and the Roman Empire
Speaker 1: didn't have that at this time. Eventually, the barbarians would
Speaker 1: start chipping away at him, these these step tribes who
Speaker 1: carts start swooping in. But at some point the Roman
Speaker 1: Empire splits right down the middle, well kind of right
Speaker 1: down the middle, but becomes a Western Roman Empire in
Speaker 1: an Eastern Roman Empire. The Western Roman Empire would eventually fall.
Speaker 1: The Eastern Roman Empire would pretty much completely remake itself
Speaker 1: and rise again. You've maybe heard of the Byzantine Empire, Chris,
Speaker 1: you're an idiot. You've even heard of the Byzantine Empire.
Speaker 1: That is the Eastern Roman Empire. That's an extension of
Speaker 1: ancient Rome. They broke off. They didn't fall like the
Speaker 1: Western Roman Empire fell. They remade themselves. They were a
Speaker 1: nation that spoke Greek. They were a Christian nation. Much
Speaker 1: of the thing and many of the things you see
Speaker 1: today when it comes to the church and various things,
Speaker 1: really comes from this era. They were unquestionably the greatest
Speaker 1: empire of that time, and they rose and that was
Speaker 1: you know, Constantinople. That's where what we're talking about today
Speaker 1: modern day Istanbul, Turkey, if you're wondering where that is,
Speaker 1: that became their capital, and it was supposed to at
Speaker 1: the height of the Byzantine Empire, supposed to be absurdly amazing.
Speaker 1: They built a church there under orders that it be
Speaker 1: the greatest church in the world and also be finished
Speaker 1: as quickly as possible. I realize those two things can
Speaker 1: be difficult. They finished the church and reportedly, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I can't speak to the accuracy of this. Supposedly the
Speaker 1: church had the nails, Jesus was crucified within it, and
Speaker 1: the cross itself. This thing was supposed to be awesome.
Speaker 1: It still exists in Istanbul today. It's a museum. I've
Speaker 1: never been there. I've never been a Turkey. I'd like
Speaker 1: to go one day, maybe once he doesn't suck what Chris,
Speaker 1: you can make fun of other countries. So the Eastern Rompire,
Speaker 1: Eastern Roman Empire arises, becomes the Byzantine Empire, and you
Speaker 1: have this wonderful city called Constantinople. And part of building
Speaker 1: up Constantinople meant doing this. It meant making the city
Speaker 1: absolutely impregnable. And here's the weird thing about it. They
Speaker 1: did for a long time. They built up walls, defenses,
Speaker 1: and the water played a key part of this. I
Speaker 1: want you to do me a favor, if you're in
Speaker 1: a place to do so. You know we do this sometime.
Speaker 1: I want you to do me a favor and pull
Speaker 1: up a map of Istanbul, Turkey, and what you'll see
Speaker 1: is this. If you're not on a map, allow me
Speaker 1: to explain it to you as best I can. All Right,
Speaker 1: You've got Italy, all right. I say that because it's
Speaker 1: easiest for people to understand, because everyone can picture Italy
Speaker 1: that big cowboy boot. Now move to the right, move
Speaker 1: east and you see Grease. There, You got Grease. See
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Just south of Greece, you have
Speaker 1: the Mediterranean. Obviously the Mediterranean. Now right to the east
Speaker 1: of Greece is the Aegean Sea. If you keep cruising
Speaker 1: northeast up through the Aegean Sea. You will see if
Speaker 1: you're zoomed out on your map, it looks like it's landlocked.
Speaker 1: It is not. Zoom in. Eventually you will find yourself
Speaker 1: just southwest of the Black Sea. You will see Istanbul. Now,
Speaker 1: zoom in on Istanbul on your little map. What is it?
Speaker 1: It is not just a city on this little peninsula
Speaker 1: connecting Europe and Asia. It is a gigantic gate. Look
Speaker 1: at the Black Sea for me for a moment. Look
Speaker 1: at all the nations connecting the Black Sea. Now, imagine
Speaker 1: remember how big the trade is back in the day.
Speaker 1: Imagine you want to sail a ship from anywhere in
Speaker 1: the world and get it through the Black Sea. Where
Speaker 1: are you passing through Istanbul? It is not only the
Speaker 1: connection with that little straight between Asia and Europe. It
Speaker 1: is a major trade route. It is, as I said,
Speaker 1: controlling the gates of trade. So they very wisely set
Speaker 1: up their capital city here. For defied it and the
Speaker 1: empire arose. It's not as if the Eastern Roman Empire,
Speaker 1: the Byzantine Empire just exists. They didn't kind of limped
Speaker 1: along for a few years. No, no, no, no. They
Speaker 1: remade themselves in their own distinct culture with a lot
Speaker 1: of Roman influence and rose dominant dominant power. We'll do
Speaker 1: a ton of things on them one day, but again,
Speaker 1: empires rise, in, empires fall. All of them. We are
Speaker 1: no exception, which brings us to the fourteen hundreds, specifically
Speaker 1: the fourteen fifties. Now, remember the Byzantine Empire was doing
Speaker 1: just fine for a long long time. We're talking the
Speaker 1: year three ninety five to fourteen fifty three. So I
Speaker 1: don't mean to just sweep right through them. If it's well,
Speaker 1: they were a little blip on the radar. Any American
Speaker 1: in their mine would happily sign up for in a
Speaker 1: thousand year empire right now, that's how long they lasted.
Speaker 1: So I'm browsing. I'm just breezing right past them today
Speaker 1: as if they're nothing. They were not nothing. They were major, major,
Speaker 1: But an empire is beginning to rise in the east.
Speaker 1: Hang on, you're listening to the Jesse Kelly show. You're welcome.
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Speaker 1: rising in the East as the Byzantine Empire is crumbling.
Speaker 1: And this, this crumbling of the Byzantine Empire was a
Speaker 1: long time coming. Didn't happen overnight, happen the way all
Speaker 1: kind of empires crumble slowly over time, internal rot, lose
Speaker 1: a little territory here, get a bad ruler or five. Here.
Speaker 1: Europe is ripping each other. They're ripping each other to
Speaker 1: shreds right now. This is the era of the Crusades
Speaker 1: and the popes and kings. You have insane kings. I'll
Speaker 1: do a whole show on him one time. Charles the
Speaker 1: Glass or Charles the mad, whichever way you want to
Speaker 1: put it, actually thought he was made of glass. Legitimate
Speaker 1: mental illness, speaking of which we're going to get to
Speaker 1: one of those here in just a couple of minutes,
Speaker 1: but legitimate mental illness. As the king of a nation,
Speaker 1: can you imagine what would happen to a nation and
Speaker 1: the Ottoman Empire in the east rises. The Ottoman Empire
Speaker 1: is a Muslim empire. Now that matters to a lot
Speaker 1: of people today, But believe me when I tell you
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter even a fraction as much today as
Speaker 1: it meant back then. This was the era when men
Speaker 1: believed you arm everybody in society and you go die
Speaker 1: if that's what it takes to take back this holy
Speaker 1: city or that holy city. Wars were wholly religious wars
Speaker 1: back then, sometimes at least that's how they were sold.
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, lots of these wars. We gotta
Speaker 1: take this back for Christ, We have to take this
Speaker 1: for all. It's weird how many kings and sultans ended
Speaker 1: up a lot richer after these whole things not that
Speaker 1: I'm saying anything. Be real, real careful. This is a
Speaker 1: quick side note. Be real careful how things are sold
Speaker 1: to you. Tell me if that sounds familiar at all today.
Speaker 1: Be very careful how movements are sold to you. Oftentimes
Speaker 1: that's not really what they're selling anyway. So this empire
Speaker 1: rises in the East, and the Ottoman Empire is rising
Speaker 1: as Europe is crumbling and ripping each other apart. And
Speaker 1: the Ottoman Empire is a hungry, hungry empire of conquest.
Speaker 1: This is not an empire that just wants to sit
Speaker 1: down and have their Muslim country here and be left alone. No,
Speaker 1: they believe they are supposed to own it all, so
Speaker 1: they begin to slap around everybody. They begin to push
Speaker 1: into Europe. Europe can't really do much about it at
Speaker 1: this time because there's not one power that can take
Speaker 1: on the Ottoman Empire. Yes, they could all join up
Speaker 1: and fight off the Ottoman Empire, but the problem is
Speaker 1: when can Europe ever join up. They'll join for a
Speaker 1: year or two, and then somebody will offend someone else's
Speaker 1: daughter and then they're killing They're always fighting each other
Speaker 1: all the time. That didn't get That didn't get invented
Speaker 1: with World War One. By the way, why do you
Speaker 1: think Washington was so adamant about staying of Europe's wars
Speaker 1: in his farewell address that's a little ways before World
Speaker 1: War one and two. He was all these freaking Europeans
Speaker 1: man are always going at each other for some reason.
Speaker 1: Just stay out of the whole thing. And the Ottoman
Speaker 1: Empire sets its sights, as you can imagine on Byzantium now.
Speaker 1: By now, the Byzantine Empire pretty much is Byzantium. There
Speaker 1: is no more wide control. They own a little of this,
Speaker 1: a little of that. They have this great fortified city,
Speaker 1: but they don't have really any money, they don't have
Speaker 1: the troops. All they can do now is basically be
Speaker 1: a vassal state to the Ottomans, and the Ottomans get
Speaker 1: this nineteen year old kid take over as sultan, and
Speaker 1: the whole of Europe takes a little sigh of reliefs,
Speaker 1: convincing themselves this nineteen year old kid is gonna be
Speaker 1: an idiot. He's gonna be what a nineteen year old
Speaker 1: kid usually is. Only here's the problem. Oftentimes it's not
Speaker 1: an age thing. There are plenty of nineteen year old
Speaker 1: kids who are extremely capable, smart human beings. And this
Speaker 1: nineteen year old kid who took over the Ottoman Empire
Speaker 1: happened to be Memed the Second. Memed the Second spoke
Speaker 1: like seven languages at the age of nineteen. It's not
Speaker 1: some immature snot nosed a little brat. This was an
Speaker 1: extremely capable human being. Now, which brings us to the problem.
Speaker 1: An interesting problem, as they say, hindsight is twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: The Byzantines, they don't have any money. They don't have
Speaker 1: a lot of money. I mean they've got enough. They
Speaker 1: certainly don't have enough money for military conquests and things
Speaker 1: like that. You're at this point, you're just trying to
Speaker 1: have enough troops to defend yourself and maintain your empire,
Speaker 1: maintain some order. And so an engineer approaches the big
Speaker 1: cheese Constantine the eleventh. He's the head of the Byzantine
Speaker 1: Empire at this time, and this engineer approaches him and says, hey,
Speaker 1: I have something you might be interested in, and Constantine says, well,
Speaker 1: I'd love to hear it. I'm making up this whole conversation,
Speaker 1: by the way, And the engineer says, how about a
Speaker 1: big fricking gun. Now there are cannons already in existence.
Speaker 1: I understand that there are cannons in existence. And Constantine says, well,
Speaker 1: what do I want with a big gun? And this
Speaker 1: guy says, no, no, no, no no, you don't understand. I
Speaker 1: have a big, big gun, a big cannon that will
Speaker 1: shoot a cannon ball that weighs a ton, and it'll
Speaker 1: shoot it a mile. It's hard for us to wrap
Speaker 1: our minds around that. But that is so much bigger
Speaker 1: than anything in existence at that time. And Constantine says, thanks,
Speaker 1: but no, thanks, What use do I have for a
Speaker 1: canon of that size. Well, you're an engineer. You've spent
Speaker 1: some serious time and hard work designing this super weapon.
Speaker 1: If Constantine the eleventh says no, do you think you're
Speaker 1: going to go back to your little shop and say,
Speaker 1: well it was a good shot, I guess my million
Speaker 1: dollar ideal or just have to go to the ash
Speaker 1: heap of history? Or do you think you're going to
Speaker 1: go looking for another buyer? Yeah, he went looking for
Speaker 1: another buyer. Guess who decided he was a buyer. The
Speaker 1: engineer finds himself in front of Memed the second says, hey,
Speaker 1: look at this thing. Memed the Second says, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: do they come in bulk. And eventually you find yourself
Speaker 1: as Constantine the Eleventh, facing down the very guns you
Speaker 1: refuse to purchase because Memed the Second decides he's gonna
Speaker 1: go ahead and take Byzantium. Constantine the Eleventh is asking
Speaker 1: Europe for help. Europe says, oh, we'll pray for you.
Speaker 1: They began knocking down your walls. Now here's something you
Speaker 1: do need to know. If you're rooting for the Byzantine Empire,
Speaker 1: which many of my listeners will, because it's human nature.
Speaker 1: You root for who you view as your team. Right.
Speaker 1: I'm sure my Muslim listeners are probably rooting for the Ottomans,
Speaker 1: my Christian listeners are rooting for the Byzantines. That's that's
Speaker 1: how we view history, and that's human nature. You don't
Speaker 1: have to feel bad about that. I used to watch
Speaker 1: the major golf tournaments with my dad when I was
Speaker 1: a kid, and we weren't golf freaks. But anytime you
Speaker 1: can spend with your father as a kid, you treasure
Speaker 1: and he's watching, you know, the PGA, the US Open,
Speaker 1: And I'd always asked my dad, Dad, who are we
Speaker 1: rooting for? We're rooting for the Americans. That's that's all
Speaker 1: there is doing. We root for Americans. Screw those Europeans,
Speaker 1: screw the Japanese, we root for America. Hang on. So
Speaker 1: they pull out the old mega cannon against these formerly
Speaker 1: impregnable walls of Constantinople. And yeah, those walls are all
Speaker 1: of a sudden very pregnable. Is that a word, Chris, impregnable?
Speaker 1: There should be a pregnable, right? Is that? I didn't
Speaker 1: just say a dirty word, is it? It might be dirty?
Speaker 1: All right, I'm not saying it again. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: it again, but you know what I mean. This thing
Speaker 1: hammerhouses those walls. And it's not one of those scenarios
Speaker 1: where you think you pull out the big guns and
Speaker 1: it just bounces harmlessly. Oh no, the walls crumble in
Speaker 1: one day, a big part of the wall gets exposed.
Speaker 1: But met the second orders his troops in only understand
Speaker 1: this if you're a fan of the Byzantine Empire. This
Speaker 1: siege does not make them look bad. They fight off
Speaker 1: the guys who try to fight through and build the
Speaker 1: wall back overnight. Now they didn't build up the wall
Speaker 1: as it looked before. That's a major construction project. They
Speaker 1: would do things like take all the rubble from the
Speaker 1: crumbled wall, stack it, and then put a bunch of
Speaker 1: cloth and wool and things in it, so when they
Speaker 1: shot it again with a cannon, it would dull it
Speaker 1: and it wouldn't explode. You know, when it hits a
Speaker 1: soft surface, it helps. And this continued, day after day
Speaker 1: after day. The Ottomans would shell a section of the wall,
Speaker 1: it would crumble. They would try to attack, the Byzantines
Speaker 1: would fight them off like warriors, repair it overnight. Now
Speaker 1: I'm a mad. The second is not a man who's
Speaker 1: just going to go away. He is also dealing very,
Speaker 1: very very harshly with people he captures. He wants the city.
Speaker 1: He wants it intact, he wants to make it the
Speaker 1: capital of his empire. This isn't just a random city
Speaker 1: like I told you before. This place is important. He
Speaker 1: wants it. He wants it badly, so he keeps sending
Speaker 1: in you know, people, hey surrender the city. Well, at
Speaker 1: least let the women and kids live. He didn't even
Speaker 1: pretend he was going to let the men live. I
Speaker 1: mean a little look, the women and kids will be fine.
Speaker 1: You well, no, not you not so much, they keep
Speaker 1: saying no. In the face of certain death against this
Speaker 1: massive army and their huge guns, they keep saying no. Mamed.
Speaker 1: The second even goes and conquers a couple little mini
Speaker 1: Byzantine forts, brings back the guys he captures and impales
Speaker 1: them in front of the city walls, in front of
Speaker 1: Constantinople or Byzantium, whichever you want to call it, the
Speaker 1: same city. Even still, they say, so, remember that map.
Speaker 1: Pull up your map again of Istanbul today. It's the
Speaker 1: only way to search it. All right, Istanbul, Let me
Speaker 1: see you here and pull up the map again. There
Speaker 1: is What do you see when you look at that
Speaker 1: straight there's a harbor, isn't there? There's a big harbor
Speaker 1: in there now, Istanbul in order to defend it. You'll
Speaker 1: see it's called the Golden Horn. If you're looking at it,
Speaker 1: you'll see its Istanbul sitting there. There's a harbor. They
Speaker 1: know they can't have somebody get on that side of
Speaker 1: the harbor. You essentially can't allow the enemy ships in
Speaker 1: the harbor, or you're going to be defending your city
Speaker 1: from multiple sides and you won't be able to stand.
Speaker 1: They can maybe muster the manpower to patch up the
Speaker 1: walls on one side, you can't do it on other sides.
Speaker 1: So they try to ram the auto and try to
Speaker 1: ram their ships into this chain of ships that the
Speaker 1: Byzantines have set up in the harbor. They essentially set
Speaker 1: up a big chain of ships so you can't get through,
Speaker 1: because we know we have to hold this at all costs.
Speaker 1: The Ottomans cannot get through that chain of ships, and
Speaker 1: so they went home. No, they didn't go home. The Ottomans, again,
Speaker 1: are not incapable dullard barbarians. They have some of the
Speaker 1: most brilliant minds of the ancient world. Mamed the second
Speaker 1: goes to his brilliant engineers and says, find a way
Speaker 1: around it. The engineers come back and say, well, we're
Speaker 1: not going to ram through the ships. Here's what we're
Speaker 1: going to do. And in a construction project that I
Speaker 1: would honestly have loved to see people pull off back
Speaker 1: in the day with this level of technology, they laid
Speaker 1: down steel rails and wheels and they simply sailed up
Speaker 1: to the chain, then hold the boats on shore and
Speaker 1: railed the boats, passed the chain and dropped them back
Speaker 1: in the water. In the harbor on the other side.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know, Chris. I just when
Speaker 1: I heard the story, I was like, wait, what, Like,
Speaker 1: I can't even picture it. Maybe somebody's come up with
Speaker 1: a picture of it somewhere. Long story short, they fall.
Speaker 1: If you're wondering about Constantine the eleventh, to his credit,
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about the man. Maybe he was
Speaker 1: a great man, maybe he was a bad man. To
Speaker 1: his credit, during the heat of the fighting, when the
Speaker 1: city was falling, threw on his sword and threw himself
Speaker 1: into the meat of the battle and was never seen again.
Speaker 1: He went down. Now the Ottoman Empire takes over. Now
Speaker 1: we're talking a couple hundred years past the Ottoman Empire.
Speaker 1: And for this, I'm not going to apologize to you,
Speaker 1: because you know I don't do that. But I should
Speaker 1: note that we're a little ways into the show, and
Speaker 1: I got distracted several times because all this stuff fascinates me,
Speaker 1: and right about now we're just getting to the thing
Speaker 1: I actually wanted to talk about today. Sorry, Chris, what, Look,
Speaker 1: it's all crappy news. I can talk about history if
Speaker 1: I want. It's my show. Eight seven seven three seven
Speaker 1: seven four three seven threes the number by the way,
Speaker 1: eight seven seven three seven seven four three seven three.
Speaker 1: They throw themselves into it. Ottomans take over. They now
Speaker 1: rule this place. They rule this place with an iron fist.
Speaker 1: And they are a mega, mega empire, extremely powerful. And
Speaker 1: they have one man in charge of the Ottoman Empire,
Speaker 1: and he's always set up here in this city. And
Speaker 1: the thing about the Ottomans is this. They're a powerful empire,
Speaker 1: an intelligent empire, like I said, great engineers, wealthy, fascinating,
Speaker 1: a great architecture. But they have this huge flaw that
Speaker 1: they never seemed to be able to figure out. In
Speaker 1: my word, you want to talk about flaws, it's really
Speaker 1: really bad. They don't seem to be able to figure
Speaker 1: out the whole succession thing. Now, there have been a
Speaker 1: million stories of succession of the throne throughout history, of
Speaker 1: backstabbing and murder. This guy wants to thrown and that
Speaker 1: guy wants to thrown. But the Ottomans seem to have
Speaker 1: actually perfected this dysfunction in a unique way. They would
Speaker 1: just murder everyone. Every time somebody took over as sultan,
Speaker 1: he would murder all of his brothers and cousins every
Speaker 1: single time. And part of the reason it was so
Speaker 1: rampant in the Ottoman Empire was this, they thought, remember
Speaker 1: my question in the beginning about murdering your brothers and cousins,
Speaker 1: the Ottomans swore, maybe not wrongly, The Ottomans swore, this
Speaker 1: was actually the greater good. This was actually a mercy
Speaker 1: to take over as king and kill all of your
Speaker 1: brothers and cousins, because if you do not, then your
Speaker 1: brothers and cousins will find armies, will find loyalties, and
Speaker 1: will fight and understand for a long time, the Ottomans,
Speaker 1: maybe this was part of the problem. They did not
Speaker 1: do the thing where the king would die and they
Speaker 1: hand the throne to the oldest son. So you already
Speaker 1: knew there was a line of succession. The king would
Speaker 1: have tons of sons. The son would then be sent
Speaker 1: out into the world. Why did they send them out
Speaker 1: into the world. I'll explain it in a second. Is
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Speaker 1: has a harem, which we're going to get to in
Speaker 1: a second. In fact, that's going to be central to
Speaker 1: our story. Don't worry, it's not going to be dirty.
Speaker 1: But part of a harem means you're going to end
Speaker 1: up having children, several of them. When you have sons,
Speaker 1: as an Ottoman sultan, you send them out to act
Speaker 1: as governors to various parts of your empire for a
Speaker 1: bunch of reasons. One, you want people loyal to you
Speaker 1: out there too. They need to learn how to govern,
Speaker 1: They need to learn how to be in charge, which
Speaker 1: was a really great system, except it didn't combine well
Speaker 1: with the system of not appointing the oldest. Remember every
Speaker 1: system has a given take. You can say, oh, that's good,
Speaker 1: it's just the most capable, not the oldest. Well, how
Speaker 1: do you think they decided the most capable once Dad died?
Speaker 1: What do you think the sons who knew Dad was
Speaker 1: going to die one day? What do you think they
Speaker 1: were doing when they were out there governing the whole time. Well,
Speaker 1: they were making sure it wasn't their heads going to
Speaker 1: be on the chopping block when Dad died. So they're
Speaker 1: creating political allegiances, creating military allegiances. Dad dies, we now
Speaker 1: have a survival of the fittest situation yet again, and
Speaker 1: we're all going to murder each other yet again, until
Speaker 1: one guy emerges, and then the psycho repeats as he
Speaker 1: gets his own harem and starts cranking out boys. You see,
Speaker 1: not a great system. And so the Ottomans decided they
Speaker 1: were going to start fixing this system. When one son
Speaker 1: takes over, he's gonna slaughter everybody. He knows every relative.
Speaker 1: Then we never have to worry about it because once
Speaker 1: they take power, oftentimes the brother who didn't win would
Speaker 1: just have his brother assassinated and then take power. So
Speaker 1: now it was a system. You take power, you kill
Speaker 1: all your brothers and cousins. Problem kind of solved. I
Speaker 1: don't want to be mean here. I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: be a bloodthirsty tyrant, but it did kind of solve
Speaker 1: the problem. But it did make the people feel gross.
Speaker 1: They were a religious people, and it made people feel gross.
Speaker 1: Plus lots of times these brothers and cousins, they were people,
Speaker 1: they were men. Some of the people followed, Right, if
Speaker 1: you've got a city of one hundred thousand people, ten thousand,
Speaker 1: we're with this brother, ten thousand, we're with that brothers,
Speaker 1: so on and so forth. Well, if your guy loses
Speaker 1: and your guy gets his head cut off, you're gonna
Speaker 1: be a little bitter about that. So eventually they decided
Speaker 1: they needed a new system. Well, here's the thing. I
Speaker 1: just took power. I defeated all my brothers and cousins
Speaker 1: and such. I can't murder them. But as history has proven,
Speaker 1: the ones who didn't get murdered or just turn around
Speaker 1: and plot my assassination. So I can't murder them. I
Speaker 1: can't throw them in a dungeon. I can't. I can't
Speaker 1: just let them roam around free either, So what to do?
Speaker 1: What to do? Which brings me back to the harem.
Speaker 1: The harem is an interesting thing in the Ottoman Empire.
Speaker 1: It was part of I can't. I'm not gonna say
Speaker 1: this right for screw you. I went to community college.
Speaker 1: It's called top Cappy Palace. That was the main palace.
Speaker 1: It was supposed to be an absurdly beautiful palace. That
Speaker 1: was the headquarters of the Saltan and part of the
Speaker 1: palace was the harem. Now, part of the harem was
Speaker 1: what you think it was, concubines and or wives. Oftentimes
Speaker 1: those two worlds merged. That existed to make the king's
Speaker 1: day a little better. That was part of it. That
Speaker 1: was not all of it in the Ottoman Empire. In fact,
Speaker 1: you can argue that's not even the main part of it. Yes,
Speaker 1: there were slaves and eunuch and everything else, but it
Speaker 1: was pretty much a college. They would take some of
Speaker 1: the most beautiful women from around the empire, from all
Speaker 1: the different cultures. They would take them into the harem,
Speaker 1: but not necessarily for the king. Yes, some of them
Speaker 1: for the king. But they would take this beautiful Russian girl.
Speaker 1: They would bring her in because she's beautiful. And what
Speaker 1: they would do is they would train her, they would
Speaker 1: educate her. She'd be learning mathematics, she'd be learning philosophy.
Speaker 1: And what they were doing was they were grooming beautiful women,
Speaker 1: educating beautiful women to serve as wives for other powerful
Speaker 1: men in society. If you're a big shot in Ottoman
Speaker 1: society and you wont some dime who can actually hold
Speaker 1: a conversation, you go knock on the king's door, the
Speaker 1: Sultan's door, and you say, yo, I have got a
Speaker 1: thing for Polish girls. What do you got? And they
Speaker 1: have all these apartments as part of the harem of
Speaker 1: women who had not been servicing the king. These are
Speaker 1: women who had been educated. It was you're eating well,
Speaker 1: you're educated. Well. It was actually a really great life.
Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to defend the practice, but understand this.
Speaker 1: If you were brought in as a slave girl for
Speaker 1: the king, you wanted very much so you wanted to
Speaker 1: catch the eye of the king. Once you had caught
Speaker 1: the eye of the king, and he finished the job.
Speaker 1: You actually rose in rank. There was a ranking system.
Speaker 1: You were, for the most part, not abused. It was
Speaker 1: the good life. You were putting on a little extra
Speaker 1: lipstick in some heels. Hang on. Everybody remembers that horrible
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Speaker 1: Woman in the Harem, for the most parts, was a
Speaker 1: great life. It was what you wanted. You wanted to
Speaker 1: get snatched out of some crappy little village in Russia.
Speaker 1: You want me to go to the harem, absolutely, sign
Speaker 1: me up. Do you think the king will like my hair?
Speaker 1: But there was another part of the harem as well.
Speaker 1: This part. I'm sure there are examples of this in
Speaker 1: human history, but I haven't found one. If you have one,
Speaker 1: feel free to email me Jesse at Jesse Kelly Show
Speaker 1: dot com. Jesse at Jesse Kelly Show dot com. Again,
Speaker 1: I'm sure there are examples of this, but it's I
Speaker 1: just find it really fascinating. They found a solution to
Speaker 1: the well I can't kill my brother and I can't
Speaker 1: set him free thing. The solution was a golden cage.
Speaker 1: Let's just keep him alive. We'll feed him well, but
Speaker 1: we'll put him in solitary confinement in the harem with
Speaker 1: a comfortable bed. But that that really creates some problems.
Speaker 1: Hang up the Jesse Kelly Show. This is the Jesse
Speaker 1: Kelly Show. You see. The problem is the human mind
Speaker 1: was created to need companionship. This goes way way back
Speaker 1: to the Bible, even the Old testament with Jewish producer
Speaker 1: Chris believes him God creates Adam. What's he say needs
Speaker 1: a companion gives him Eve. The feeling of loneliness Rex
Speaker 1: the human mind. I've told you before. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: tell it again. I think I just told it last
Speaker 1: week about the reason marines create fighting holes with two
Speaker 1: people instead of one, even though one would make more
Speaker 1: strategic sense, because you don't want to feel alone when
Speaker 1: it comes to children. Do you know that statistically a
Speaker 1: child turns out better if it has a father stay
Speaker 1: at home and abuse them. God forbid, I can't leave
Speaker 1: people do that to their freaking little buddies, but and
Speaker 1: abuse them rather than leave them. I'm talking about statistically,
Speaker 1: how the child turns out if he leaves on his
Speaker 1: own behalf. That feeling of abandonment, of loneliness recks a kid, Reshim.
Speaker 1: Solitary confinement has been used and is used by prisons
Speaker 1: as a unique punishment, And isn't it amazing on the
Speaker 1: outside looking in? I know some of you have had
Speaker 1: this same thought. You're looking at this horrible prison, right
Speaker 1: any prison, You're surrounded by some of the most violent
Speaker 1: people in society, gangs, gang wars, stabbings, all the horrible
Speaker 1: things that go on in prison, and they're scared to
Speaker 1: death of being put in solitary confinement, and on the
Speaker 1: outside looking in, it looks weird. I've always looked at
Speaker 1: him and thought, well, that's exactly where i'd want to be.
Speaker 1: I think, I just want to hang out by myself.
Speaker 1: But they're scared to death because it's torture. They'd rather
Speaker 1: be around rapists and murderers all day long than be
Speaker 1: by themselves. It's horrible. And so what they would do
Speaker 1: is you would create a golden cage, and you would
Speaker 1: leave possible other successors to the throne by themselves or
Speaker 1: essentially by themselves. You'd see other people bring you food now,
Speaker 1: and then you do this to that. Before the most part,
Speaker 1: you're alone. You're not out in the world like they
Speaker 1: used to do, learning how to govern, learning human nature,
Speaker 1: talking with this person, talking with that person. You're alone,
Speaker 1: and oftentimes alone from a very early age, which brings
Speaker 1: us to Ibrahim the first. He not only was alone
Speaker 1: in this golden cage for avery from a very early age.
Speaker 1: All four of his brothers were executed. Finally, Ibrahim under
Speaker 1: the impression that he's about to be executed, finds out
Speaker 1: or hears that the Sultan is dead, and now he's
Speaker 1: about to be sultan. He is crazy by now, he's
Speaker 1: so scared and insane. He doesn't believe that the Sultan
Speaker 1: is dead, refuses to let anyone in, bars his door closed,
Speaker 1: will not come out and accept that he's now the
Speaker 1: sultan until his mother brings down the dead body of
Speaker 1: the Sultan and shows him, look, he's dead. You really
Speaker 1: are the Sultan. It's not a trick. Come out, and
Speaker 1: this man takes over and he's a complete and utter disaster.
Speaker 1: He has no ability to rule, He has no no
Speaker 1: how he is in sane. His mother knows he's insane.
Speaker 1: He has no heirs. So his mother encourages this insane
Speaker 1: person to start spending some significant periods of time in
Speaker 1: that special wing of the Aram. Might call it the
Speaker 1: fun part of whatever. So he does. He starts producing sons,
Speaker 1: and he starts to really fall in love with some
Speaker 1: of the ladies in the harem, some of the slave girls,
Speaker 1: and fall in love. When I say fall in love,
Speaker 1: I mean giving them major positions of power in the country.
Speaker 1: He would send out memos to the entire nation that
Speaker 1: he wanted sable skins so he could create palaces for
Speaker 1: them all covered in sable skins. One of his concubines
Speaker 1: at one point came and told him that she prefers
Speaker 1: to shop at night, not during the day. He sends
Speaker 1: out a memo and makes every shop stay open twenty
Speaker 1: four hours a day, as if it's seven to eleven.
Speaker 1: The guy was just nuts. He does all the things
Speaker 1: a crazy ruler does. He abuses people. You remember the
Speaker 1: abuse I said didn't happen in the Harem, It started
Speaker 1: to happen under him, raises taxes, alienates everybody, and in
Speaker 1: maybe the craziest story ever that I'm going to have
Speaker 1: a very difficult time telling Ibraheim. The first he had
Speaker 1: a thing for big women. And when I say had
Speaker 1: a thing for I mean preferred them big. And the
Speaker 1: bigger the better. I don't mean a little extra junk
Speaker 1: in the trunk. I mean the bigger the better. And man,
Speaker 1: how am I going to tell this? I should have
Speaker 1: thought about this before I got on there. He saw
Speaker 1: a female cow one day, he saw the equipment of
Speaker 1: the female cow. I know, Chris, Look I'm the one
Speaker 1: that has to talk about it. Okay, do you think
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying it over here? I'm relaying the story. He
Speaker 1: decided he would prefer if he had a young lady
Speaker 1: that possessed that. So he created a cast of that
Speaker 1: part of the female cow, and multiple copies, by the way,
Speaker 1: and sent these copies throughout the empire in search of
Speaker 1: a woman who possessed similar equipment. He actually found one.
Speaker 1: Apparently she weighed over three hundred pounds, which I understand
Speaker 1: is big. I'm not judging to you if that's you,
Speaker 1: but understand if you're somebody who weighs over three hundred pounds,
Speaker 1: and this error era is not the Mickt's right next
Speaker 1: door era. Nobody weighs three hundred pounds back then. But nevertheless,
Speaker 1: he tracked one down, brought her in, and she proceeds
Speaker 1: to basically have everybody killed, tells him one of his
Speaker 1: ladies has been getting involved with an outsider. He has
Speaker 1: all of them. I believe there were two hundred and
Speaker 1: eighty tied up in sacks and thrown in the river.
Speaker 1: Eventually he is deposed. He is executed. Now I circle
Speaker 1: back again to my question in the beginning about the
Speaker 1: brother murder. Obviously you don't need to be murdering your brother,
Speaker 1: and I hope nobody ever does. But understand this, when
Speaker 1: you face large scale problems as a society, here's the
Speaker 1: hard truth of it, especially when those large scale problems
Speaker 1: are entrenched, when they are rooted in your society, not
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Speaker 1: returns next. We are facing some insane times out there
Speaker 1: right now. But you need to hear this. Part of
Speaker 1: the reason we're facing insane times is one, we have
Speaker 1: insane people in charge. In two, the insane people in
Speaker 1: charge listen to other insane people for their policy feedback.
Speaker 1: I want you to listen to this dollard on CNN
Speaker 1: and understand this. This is on CNN. This is not
Speaker 1: some wing nut that got listened to and dismissed. People
Speaker 1: are hearing things like this and they're trying to put
Speaker 1: in policies that affect you. Do you understand that the
Speaker 1: word dismantle or police free also makes some people nervous.
Speaker 1: For instance, what if in the middle of the night
Speaker 1: my home is broken into who do I call? Yes?
Speaker 1: I mean, I hear that loud and clear from a
Speaker 1: lot of my neighbors, and I know and myself too,
Speaker 1: And I know that that comes from a place of privilege.
Speaker 1: Because for those of us for whom the system is working,
Speaker 1: I think we need to start back and imagine what
Speaker 1: it would feel like to already live in that reality
Speaker 1: where calling the police may mean more harm is done.
Speaker 1: I can't. This is the great advantage the GOP has
Speaker 1: over the Democratic Party. Now you understand how entrenched the
Speaker 1: left is. We're going to go into all that here
Speaker 1: in just a moment. But the great advantage the GOP
Speaker 1: has over the leftists is leftists are insane people. They're insane.
Speaker 1: They're they're insane people. We are facing an election this
Speaker 1: November where we're going to have millions still of people.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have millions of unemployeede people still because of
Speaker 1: our lockdowns. No, no getting around that. Don't be don't
Speaker 1: even try that with me. We're gonna have we're gonna
Speaker 1: have had lots of civil unrest in the streets, probably
Speaker 1: be cleaned up by November, but people are going to
Speaker 1: remember it We're gonna be facing a situation where Donald
Speaker 1: Trump should, by all accounts, have some difficulty being reelected.
Speaker 1: That's just the nature of presidential elections. If the economy's down,
Speaker 1: it's hard to get reelected. If there's chaos, it's hard
Speaker 1: to get re elected unless Democrats nominate somebody who can't
Speaker 1: form a complete thought and make part of their policy
Speaker 1: platform eliminating police departments. People. Honestly, they are the greatest
Speaker 1: gift the Republican Party ever had, because the feckless, ballless
Speaker 1: Republican Party legitimately should have no place in power. They
Speaker 1: never cut spending, they never do anything they promised to do.
Speaker 1: Think how little they accomplished with the House, Senate and
Speaker 1: presidency in the first two years of Trump's presidency. What'd
Speaker 1: we get? We got a tax cut, no defunding Planned parenthood,
Speaker 1: which they promise every campaign season. There's no expansion of
Speaker 1: gun rights, no nothing. They got nothing because they're useless,
Speaker 1: and so people should just toss them all out. But
Speaker 1: until you're like, well, I mean I can't, I can't
Speaker 1: vote for Democrats. These people are mad the world. He's
Speaker 1: gone mad, and it's everywhere. It's everywhere. Headline UCLA professor
Speaker 1: under police protection following threats. Do you want to know
Speaker 1: why he was following threats? Why he or he was
Speaker 1: following threats while he was getting threats? Shut up? Chris Us.
Speaker 1: University of California, Los Angeles accounting professor Gordon Klein faced
Speaker 1: threats of violence after he declined a student's request that
Speaker 1: he delay a final exam in light of national unrest.
Speaker 1: The university suspended the professor for three weeks beginning on
Speaker 1: June twenty fifth, and launched a discrimination investigation into the incident.
Speaker 1: Klein declined a request for comment, but a Malibo Police
Speaker 1: Department spokesman said the department increased police presence near the
Speaker 1: educator's home after Klein received multiple threats. A black student
Speaker 1: asked him to try to scam out of finals, and
Speaker 1: all the professor does, and look, he's a professor for UCLA.
Speaker 1: I think we all know this is probably not some
Speaker 1: card carrying conservative or something. All he said was no,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to show up for finals, and he
Speaker 1: gets death threats because of it. These people have lost
Speaker 1: their ever loving minds. They have lost their ever loving
Speaker 1: and you know what's amazing to me, nobody wants to
Speaker 1: have this conversation, but we're about to have it here
Speaker 1: because we have uncomfortable conversations on this show. There were
Speaker 1: eighteen murders in twenty four hours in Chicago May twenty
Speaker 1: ninth to May thirty first. In twenty four hours, eighteen
Speaker 1: people were murdered, several times that were shot because apparently
Speaker 1: nobody can shoot in Chicago. By the grace of God.
Speaker 1: If we have an institutional problem with racism in the
Speaker 1: police in this country, okay, fine, let's say I give
Speaker 1: you that. Are we going to pretend the police or
Speaker 1: the problem in these neighborhoods? Are we really going to
Speaker 1: do that? That is so stupid and illogical. I refuse
Speaker 1: to believe that people actually believe that. That's like saying
Speaker 1: I have two shattered legs and degenerative heart disease in
Speaker 1: a broken pinky, and the pinky is my real issue. No,
Speaker 1: it's an issue. It's one we need to address, but
Speaker 1: that's not the issue, man. The Here's the thing, though,
Speaker 1: and it really is amazing to me people you do this.
Speaker 1: I do this as human nature. When there's a problem,
Speaker 1: especially a problem in your life and my life, you
Speaker 1: go looking for someone to blame, and you keep looking
Speaker 1: until you find somebody you don't like. The nearest person
Speaker 1: you don't like is the one to blame for your problems.
Speaker 1: What if it's your fault. What if it's your favorite
Speaker 1: politician's fault. If there's a problem in the Minneapolis police department,
Speaker 1: and there may be there, certainly, maybe that scumbag cop
Speaker 1: was still on duty. Democrats have controlled the city of
Speaker 1: Minneapolis for decades. If your city's police department has an issue,
Speaker 1: you get that. Your city's police department is completely controlled
Speaker 1: by your city's mayor and city council. Right, Donald Trump
Speaker 1: is not responsible for the conditions of your crappy police department.
Speaker 1: If it is a crappy police department. And here's the
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Speaker 1: not even going to prosecute these rioters. We thought maybe
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Speaker 1: A host of the John Phillips Show on KABC. John,
Speaker 1: So things are going well out there. Oh yeah, let
Speaker 1: me tell you this, Jesse. I was golfing over the
Speaker 1: weekend and they finally relax the well, so we don't
Speaker 1: have to wear a mask when we're golfing. But if
Speaker 1: you have to go to the bathroom or you have
Speaker 1: to go to the clubhouse, they make you put it
Speaker 1: on in the clubhouse. Said to the guy behind the desk,
Speaker 1: I said, how about this. If I burned the clubhouse down,
Speaker 1: can I avoid wearing a mask? We'll flit the difference.
Speaker 1: Can you explain the suburb situation of Los Angeles? I
Speaker 1: know that's a weird question, but I mean, in every
Speaker 1: city it takes the same path. It seems like you
Speaker 1: have the downtown actual city area which is always radical,
Speaker 1: leftists and insane, and as people, especially people who get
Speaker 1: families and gain the monetary ability to do so, they
Speaker 1: spread to the burbs so they can still work downtown
Speaker 1: and then get the heck out of downtown. Is that
Speaker 1: the exact same situation in La Well, when I grew
Speaker 1: up here. Downtown LA was a ghost town. No one
Speaker 1: went there. It was just a place where people worked
Speaker 1: and everyone lived in the suburbs, and the suburbs in
Speaker 1: California just go on forever. In fact, I think Guam
Speaker 1: is a suburb of Los Angeles. Now people drive two
Speaker 1: hours sometimes to get to work, and that's just the
Speaker 1: way of life out here. And originally it was done
Speaker 1: because that's where you could afford to buy a house.
Speaker 1: And now people just don't want any part of the
Speaker 1: city and it just it's getting that way more every year.
Speaker 1: This mayor in Los Angeles, what is Garciti? Obviously, for
Speaker 1: those who don't know his name, what is his deal?
Speaker 1: Is he a politicians politician? Is he just some far
Speaker 1: leftists who got put into office. I mean he gets
Speaker 1: all the bad headlines. I don't know if he deserves them.
Speaker 1: You're the one who lives there. But he seems like
Speaker 1: an insane person from Afar. He's a strange dude. At
Speaker 1: one point in time, he thought he was going to
Speaker 1: be president and he was kicking tires on running for
Speaker 1: president because he looked at the success of Mayor Pete
Speaker 1: and that Democratic primary and he said, you know, he's
Speaker 1: the mayor of Mayberry and I'm the mayor of Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: That should be me getting all of the attention. But
Speaker 1: it's really kind of an Oedipus complex with him. Don't
Speaker 1: forget his dad was the da of LA who blew
Speaker 1: the oj case, who blew the Menendez brother's case, who
Speaker 1: blew all of those famous cases in the nineties. So
Speaker 1: he in many ways is it ran for office. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's if you meet the guy, he doesn't come across
Speaker 1: as being a politician. He comes across as being a
Speaker 1: yoga instructor. And the fact that this guy is the
Speaker 1: mayor of LA is the most shocking thing that you know,
Speaker 1: most shocking profession that you can come up with. For him,
Speaker 1: he's trying to write the family name. He's trying to
Speaker 1: check all the boxes and do what he thinks he
Speaker 1: should be doing. But he is the most ill equipped
Speaker 1: person to lead the nation's second largest city. Okay, California itself.
Speaker 1: John explain the politics of California. Is it really that
Speaker 1: far left? Are there just a bunch of entrenched rich
Speaker 1: people who are Democrats and one to appear left? And
Speaker 1: I asked this because there are states like Arizona, and
Speaker 1: Arizona is not controlled by politicians. It's controlled by the
Speaker 1: major donors. I know because I ran for office down there.
Speaker 1: Is it similar in California. California is a state that,
Speaker 1: oddly enough, not that long ago, was pretty conservative. A
Speaker 1: couple of things happened that's really changed the politics here.
Speaker 1: One is, the Cold War ended, and people used to
Speaker 1: get shipped in from all over the country to live
Speaker 1: and work on our military basis, So we had conservative
Speaker 1: people essentially brought in from all over. The aerospace industry
Speaker 1: was also dominant, but after the Cold War ended, those
Speaker 1: jobs left and went to places like Virginia and Washington State,
Speaker 1: and the people who worked there left with them. So
Speaker 1: I said, Chili, we're left with Silicon Valley, Hollywood and
Speaker 1: the service industry. That, combined with open borders, change the
Speaker 1: political climate of the state. So until some Republican industries
Speaker 1: come back to California, we're going to be Brazil. What
Speaker 1: does the United States of America look like ten years
Speaker 1: from now? John, like California. You know, if they don't
Speaker 1: do something about immigration, and they don't and and you know,
Speaker 1: the tech industry and the service industry and all of
Speaker 1: those industries are dominant, You're going to have a very
Speaker 1: liberal country. I mean, that's just the way it is. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's America, man, I hate to even bring this up
Speaker 1: like this. It's America absolutely doomed. Can we reverse this
Speaker 1: insanity of the country fracturing of the urban areas going
Speaker 1: hard hard left, the rural areas, everybody fleeing there, going
Speaker 1: hard hard right, the country, I mean, ripping each other apart?
Speaker 1: Are we just is that inevitable? Or is there some
Speaker 1: way a nation this size can turn that around. I
Speaker 1: think that politics is something where there's an ebb and
Speaker 1: a flow. Uh, you know, it's it's something that California
Speaker 1: was once very very very conservative and very red, and
Speaker 1: now we're very blue, and it's it's something that's constantly changing,
Speaker 1: constantly churning. And I just think that that, you know,
Speaker 1: other states will experience that same thing. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: not that long ago, the South was the was the
Speaker 1: backbone of the Democratic Party, and you know, for a
Speaker 1: long time now they wouldn't vote Democrat if their life
Speaker 1: depended on it. And so I'm not I'm not someone
Speaker 1: who's a doomsday sayer by any stretch of the imagination.
Speaker 1: But what needs to happen is Republican industries need to
Speaker 1: come back to California or new Republican industries have to
Speaker 1: be created for California to come back. Because political socialization
Speaker 1: is something that's been political scientists have been very consistent
Speaker 1: for a very long time. Your politics are determined by
Speaker 1: your friends, your family, people you do business with. And
Speaker 1: there are Republican industries and there are Democrat industries. Texas
Speaker 1: is still dominated by Republican industries. So if you work
Speaker 1: in the oil industry, or you work in defense, or
Speaker 1: you work in one of those sectors, you are more
Speaker 1: likely than not going to be a Republican. And tell
Speaker 1: that goes away, that's the world that you know Texas
Speaker 1: is going to live in. And you know, you guys
Speaker 1: are fortunate in California. We're not that fortunate. But it
Speaker 1: will change who what comes next after Donald Trump? For
Speaker 1: the GOP, whether that's twenty twenty or twenty twenty four,
Speaker 1: is this a party that you think reverts back to
Speaker 1: the more more of a reflection of Bush for that
Speaker 1: twenty thirty year era, or do you think this new
Speaker 1: kind of nationalist, populist GOOP is here to stay for
Speaker 1: at least a while. I hope so. And there are
Speaker 1: people who can bridge the divide too. You know that
Speaker 1: elephant is certainly there. I mean, well, Ron de Santis,
Speaker 1: I think, is someone who could theoretically do that. I mean,
Speaker 1: you go back to the sixties and the Republican Party
Speaker 1: had essentially two factions. You had the extremely liberal faction,
Speaker 1: which Nelson Rockefeller led, and you had the conservative libertarian
Speaker 1: faction that very Goldwater led. Part of Dick Nixon's success
Speaker 1: is Nixon was the guy who was able to bridge
Speaker 1: that divide. And there are people out there who can
Speaker 1: bridge that divide. I think Ron De Santis is certainly
Speaker 1: one of them. I think that guy's a rock star. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree. Plus he's in Florida and they have sweet
Speaker 1: beaches there. All right, John of the John Phillips Show,
Speaker 1: Thank you, my friend, you'd be gooin out there. All right. Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm playing golf this morning. I'll try only to hit
Speaker 1: a couple of tuns later, buddy. It is it is
Speaker 1: a shame, Chris, and I know I've talked about this before.
Speaker 1: It is a shame that California is so insane because
Speaker 1: people who've never been there do not fully appreciate how
Speaker 1: gorgeous California is and how diverse it is geographically. I
Speaker 1: mean those, oh gosh, the redwoods up north, the beaches
Speaker 1: in the south. It is a gorgeous, gorgeous state with
Speaker 1: perfect weather in so many places, and like locusts, the
Speaker 1: freaking leftists have destroyed it all right, Chris, it's time
Speaker 1: to discuss a man in his fish hang. When you
Speaker 1: were a younger man or younger woman, have you ever
Speaker 1: done something in your life so stupid and embarrassing that
Speaker 1: your main worry is that your parents would find out
Speaker 1: you did it, or that you would die doing it.
Speaker 1: And that's like on your tombstone. These days, it's probably
Speaker 1: recorded on Instagram. I was trying to take a selfie
Speaker 1: hanging off a cliff. Oops. I think we he may have.
Speaker 1: We may have a man here who wishes he died
Speaker 1: doing it. However he did not. Headline doctors had to
Speaker 1: surgically remove a dead fish from the rectum of a
Speaker 1: male patient. A thirty year old man in China had
Speaker 1: a whole fish remove from his erectum after he allegedly
Speaker 1: sat on it by accident. The gruesome footage shows removing
Speaker 1: shows medics removing the dead blue tilapia from the patient's
Speaker 1: body at a hospital. Now here's the problem this man
Speaker 1: really really has. And it's not just the general size
Speaker 1: and spikiness of the tilapia's dorsal fin, although I'm sure
Speaker 1: that doesn't doesn't feel very good. The problem this man has, Chris,
Speaker 1: is this Nobody's gonna buy the set on it by
Speaker 1: accident thing. Every single person in the world read that
Speaker 1: headline and thought, oh, oh, I think I get it.
Speaker 1: I think I get what's happening here. But in a
Speaker 1: panicky moment, in a panicky moment, he did the only
Speaker 1: thing he could think to do in which is and
Speaker 1: that's lie about it. But ask yourself, how much does
Speaker 1: that guy wish he'd die? How much does that guy
Speaker 1: wish he'd die? Now, I'm gonna go ahead and leave
Speaker 1: that story alone for a second, because I have to.
Speaker 1: I have to address something. It's been well, it's been
Speaker 1: a while. I went to a lakehouse a few weekends
Speaker 1: ago and it was fun. It was just a couple
Speaker 1: nights that did a fairly barely ramshackle lake house. I'm
Speaker 1: not made of money here, people, Okay, A good dinner
Speaker 1: out as red lobster in my house. Please, but we
Speaker 1: read this lake house. I don't think all the door
Speaker 1: knobs were falling off and whatnot. Nevertheless, it was on
Speaker 1: the lake. And now, Chris, I want a boat. Don't
Speaker 1: shake your head. Why I realized they depreciate and boat
Speaker 1: stands for bail out another thousand. I've heard all the
Speaker 1: horror stories. Why what's wrong with it? Chris is probably
Speaker 1: right about the use it ten times and then get
Speaker 1: bored and they depreciate and they break down. And I've
Speaker 1: always been a huge, huge believer in renting your fun,
Speaker 1: not buying your fun. You you'll rent a jet ski
Speaker 1: for an hour and you're like, I'm gonna buy jet
Speaker 1: ski and then you use it again once every six
Speaker 1: months and it just doesn't working. But here's the thing
Speaker 1: about the boats. I've actually been in one that's sunk,
Speaker 1: and I still love boats. I'd ever tell you that story, Chris,
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I've never told you that. All Right, So
Speaker 1: we're in Montana. I'm living in Montana at the time.
Speaker 1: I remember I grew up in Ohio till I was ten.
Speaker 1: Then we packed up moved to Montana. Montana is mountainous
Speaker 1: for the most part, the eastern part of the state
Speaker 1: has a bunch of planes in it. But it is mountainous,
Speaker 1: It is gorgeous if you've never been to Montana. Beautiful scenery.
Speaker 1: It's also wild. And when I say wild, I mean
Speaker 1: unless you're somewhere like Wyoming, you really don't fully understand
Speaker 1: what being out in the open and the country means.
Speaker 1: Like I'm in Texas now, and even these Texans, much
Speaker 1: as I love it, they think they understand and what
Speaker 1: being in the country means. I've been in places in
Speaker 1: Montana in the mountains where there was not another human
Speaker 1: being for fifty sixty miles in any direction, at least
Speaker 1: in the middle of the wilderness. It's the fourth biggest state.
Speaker 1: There's only eight hundred thousand people in the whole state.
Speaker 1: It's wild, absolutely wild, and it's beautiful. And the rivers,
Speaker 1: and this is going to come into play here. The
Speaker 1: rivers in Montana are frigid. Why are they frigid Because
Speaker 1: it's all mountains, snow in mountain glaciers that melts off
Speaker 1: in the summertime and filters down to the rivers. I
Speaker 1: have floated several rivers in Montana as young uns tend
Speaker 1: to do when you get some floaties and some rafts,
Speaker 1: and hopefully you bring some women along and you go
Speaker 1: enjoy yourself down on the river. Little nature, little sunshine.
Speaker 1: Not too bad, right, And I've never once been in
Speaker 1: a river where the water was in any way, shape
Speaker 1: or form pleasant at all. It's cold all the time,
Speaker 1: really really really cold. I was in that river one
Speaker 1: time in mountain warfare training in the Marine Corps. They
Speaker 1: made us get in it and stand in it just
Speaker 1: because of health of cold it was. And I got
Speaker 1: out and my body from the chest down was numb.
Speaker 1: I couldn't feel any part of my body. So it's
Speaker 1: fishing season in Montana. We get in a boat. Hang on.
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Speaker 1: to fish in this river, and what you do for
Speaker 1: you city types is depending on your boat level. You
Speaker 1: hop in your boat and you float down the river
Speaker 1: and you're casting your fishing poles out of the boat
Speaker 1: in the various fishing places. Now, the more seasoned pros
Speaker 1: do this really really smartly now where they'll have a
Speaker 1: little a little trolling motor and they'll float it down
Speaker 1: a river and the motor will have the ability they
Speaker 1: can kind of steer it while they're fishing. So you
Speaker 1: can do it by yourself. You can drop a quick
Speaker 1: anchor if you find a good spot. You can do
Speaker 1: all these fancy things. Now with these river boats, we
Speaker 1: didn't have any money. We didn't have a river boat.
Speaker 1: We not only did not have a trolling motor, we
Speaker 1: did not have a motor of any kind. What we
Speaker 1: had was a small, two person fishing boat. And we
Speaker 1: had three people show up the fish, me, my father,
Speaker 1: and a guy named Roy god Rest, the soul, wonderful
Speaker 1: human being. Well, that was problem number one. Problem number
Speaker 1: two quickly arose, hang on, this is a Jesse Kelly show.
Speaker 1: This is a Jesse Kelly show. Now it's a two
Speaker 1: person boat. There are three adults who show up. And
Speaker 1: the problem is Roy is a normal sized adults, certainly
Speaker 1: not a small man. I am in my teenage years,
Speaker 1: but I'm not small. I'm I'm six two sixty three
Speaker 1: at this point in time. My father, I know this
Speaker 1: is not shocking, is six four two forty two fifty.
Speaker 1: So we hog in this boat. And here's the thing.
Speaker 1: It's hard. In our defense, it's hard to call off
Speaker 1: a trip like that. I mean, the river's not right
Speaker 1: next to the house. We all had to drive half
Speaker 1: hour forty five minutes to get out there. Your get
Speaker 1: up early, super early. If you want to go fishing,
Speaker 1: you fish in the mornings or you fish at night.
Speaker 1: You get all your fishing gear together, you get everything done,
Speaker 1: you get out to the lake and you're stuck with
Speaker 1: the boat that isn't quite good enough yet it was
Speaker 1: Roy's boat. We didn't realize he didn't have a big
Speaker 1: enough boat. How many of you would have called it off?
Speaker 1: You know, it's easy to say, don't go? Would you
Speaker 1: call it off? Chris? Right? I mean who's saying, well,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't feel like this is safe. Plus
Speaker 1: your dudes, maybe women would be more inclined to do that.
Speaker 1: Men not so much. Our testosterone, our male pride is
Speaker 1: what it is. And unlike the rest of the world.
Speaker 1: I'm not apologizing for that. That's not an insult. It
Speaker 1: can be a great benefit. I can get your hurt sometimes.
Speaker 1: So you're staring at the boat, you know this is
Speaker 1: not a good idea, But never what do you do?
Speaker 1: As a dude? What do you do? Same thing that
Speaker 1: we did? We'll be fine. I don't what's the word. Look,
Speaker 1: it's not like we don't know what we're doing. I
Speaker 1: don't even have a motor. We're racing down a pretty
Speaker 1: fast river on a two person boat with three people
Speaker 1: in it and nothing but oars, and we all, we
Speaker 1: all get in caution to the wind. We all get
Speaker 1: in the boat and there's maybe maybe five six inches
Speaker 1: of clearance between the top of the sides of the
Speaker 1: boat and the river. We are sunk down into the river.
Speaker 1: We are sunk in, and off we go and we're
Speaker 1: fishing it up and we are keenly aware of the
Speaker 1: dangers out there. Because again, not every river is like this.
Speaker 1: But let me explain, Montana rivers, for the most part,
Speaker 1: are rock bottom rivers. Now again that makes them beautiful.
Speaker 1: They're not muddy. They're crystal clear, even in the deeps.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're talking crystal clear cold glacier water. I'm
Speaker 1: not a eating fish fan, as you well know, but
Speaker 1: if you're ever going to enjoy fish, that's the kind
Speaker 1: of fish you want to enjoy from some freezing cold
Speaker 1: glacier waters. It's amazing. But again, a rock bottom river
Speaker 1: comes with its own risks. There are rocks in Montana rivers,
Speaker 1: big ones that stick out of the water. Part of
Speaker 1: the danger when you go whitewater rafting, which is a
Speaker 1: pastime up there, a blast of a pastime which I
Speaker 1: highly recommend if you ever get a chance to do.
Speaker 1: Part of the danger is the rocks running into them.
Speaker 1: They're in the middle of the river, they're and slightly
Speaker 1: in the middle. They're on the right, they're on the left.
Speaker 1: You have to navigate your way around obstacles. But that
Speaker 1: wasn't our main fear that day, or I should say
Speaker 1: that shouldn't have been our main fear that day. You see,
Speaker 1: it wasn't the rocks you could see that were our problem.
Speaker 1: It was the rocks you couldn't see underneath the surface.
Speaker 1: A rock you can't quite see coming because it's not
Speaker 1: sticking out of the water, but one that's hovering, oh
Speaker 1: three four inches below the surface of the water. Our
Speaker 1: boat is sunk down a foot foot and a half
Speaker 1: beneath the water. We are racing downstream. The river's moving quickly.
Speaker 1: Are you starting to understand the situation we're about to
Speaker 1: find ourselves in. Yeah, we are in the middle of
Speaker 1: this river. I would guess the river is probably a
Speaker 1: grand total of eighty yards wide. It's fairly wide. We
Speaker 1: are smacked dab in the middle of it, trying to
Speaker 1: stay off the sides, which are obviously, in general, the
Speaker 1: more shallow parts, and we don't see it coming. We
Speaker 1: are floating, you know, our side, our port side. Shoot,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to put this the right way. The left
Speaker 1: side of the boat is facing downstream, the right side
Speaker 1: is facing upstream, so that tells you how we're doing it.
Speaker 1: The front of the boat's facing the shore, the back
Speaker 1: of the boats facing the shore. We're racing downstream and
Speaker 1: we run into one of these rocks just underneath the surface.
Speaker 1: I kept telling you how fast the water is moving,
Speaker 1: so you would understand how fast this happens. The one
Speaker 1: thing you can't afford when your boat is barely floating
Speaker 1: above the surface is to stop for any reason, because
Speaker 1: all that water coming behind you does not stop with you.
Speaker 1: We run into the rock. The rock stops the boat
Speaker 1: for the briefest of moments, and like that rock stops it, boom.
Speaker 1: Boat is full of water, ice, cold, glacier water in
Speaker 1: the middle of the river, and it gets better. It
Speaker 1: had been a slow day fishing for me, and I
Speaker 1: finally hooked one and it felt like a big one,
Speaker 1: and of course that was part of the reason we
Speaker 1: ran into the rock. We were moving the poles and
Speaker 1: everyone around so I could reel in the fish, which also,
Speaker 1: I should mention, absolves me of any responsibility. I was
Speaker 1: on fish duty. I was not on rock lookout duty.
Speaker 1: What Chris, I'm getting to that part. I hooked this fish.
Speaker 1: I've got him on boom. Boat sinks. Now, when a
Speaker 1: boat sinks, you have all your tackle all over the place.
Speaker 1: It's insane. Your tackle boxes are now racing down the river.
Speaker 1: You are up to your neck or your chest. That's
Speaker 1: about how deep the river was in Glacier water. We
Speaker 1: are all doing that like as the water is freezing
Speaker 1: type thing. We are now struggling to get the shore
Speaker 1: as the boat is unsalvageable now permanently sunk at the
Speaker 1: bottom of the river, and we're watching our tackle go
Speaker 1: racing down the river. We're taking And you know, a
Speaker 1: tackle box, If you're not a fisher person, you won't
Speaker 1: fully appreciate this. But a man's tackle box, it's not
Speaker 1: just something you bought, it's years of acquiring certain things
Speaker 1: go into your tackle box thing. It's like a CD
Speaker 1: collection was back in the day. I'm not yeah, I will,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go fishing for trout today
Speaker 1: in this river. Then I'm gonna go out and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna grab whatever I need to go trout fishing. But
Speaker 1: that's one day. I don't throw away my tackle box.
Speaker 1: My tackle box will be with me for twenty thirty years.
Speaker 1: I'm trout fishing here, I'm I'm muskie fishing here, I'm
Speaker 1: bass fishing here. You have acquired things over years. I
Speaker 1: mean it gets to a point oftentimes you're going fishing,
Speaker 1: you don't have to buy anything because you have years
Speaker 1: of not only stuff you've bought and acquired memories. You're
Speaker 1: you're looking. It's hard to explain for someone who hasn't
Speaker 1: done it. You're looking at at a lure, and you will.
Speaker 1: You will remember a legendary fish you caught with that lure.
Speaker 1: There is a sentimental value there for dudes. There is
Speaker 1: something something sentimental about a tackle box. And all three
Speaker 1: of us had ones we loved, and all three of
Speaker 1: us are watching the tackle boxes go racing down the
Speaker 1: river as we try to get the shore not drown.
Speaker 1: All right, hang on one second, I'll finish my story.
Speaker 1: We get to some headlines. Hang on, feeling a little stocky,
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Speaker 1: We all need sleep, every single one of us, and
Speaker 1: you're probably not getting enough sleep and I know why.
Speaker 1: I see the same news you see. I deal with
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Speaker 1: you have to tell people what happened in the story.
Speaker 1: I did not die that day. I didn't make it
Speaker 1: to the shore, though, and I am very very proud
Speaker 1: to say all the tackle may have been gone, the
Speaker 1: boat may have been gone, our pride may have been gone.
Speaker 1: But I got to that boat with my fishing pool
Speaker 1: still in hand and the fish still on the line,
Speaker 1: stood up, soaking, wet, freezing cold, stood on that shoreline
Speaker 1: and fought that fish with everything I had. Finally got
Speaker 1: him over by the shore in my line broke, not
Speaker 1: even kidding, devastating, evastated. I just I just sat down.
Speaker 1: I just sat down in that moment, and because what
Speaker 1: else are you gonna do? Sitting there with a wet
Speaker 1: rear end, just devastated. Now, I want you to listen
Speaker 1: to somebody. I want you to listen to what he
Speaker 1: had to say. Tell me if any of this rings true.
Speaker 1: There are many whites who are trying to solve the problem,
Speaker 1: but you never see them going under the label of liberals.
Speaker 1: That that white person that you see calling himself a
Speaker 1: liberal is the most dangerous thing in the entire Western hemisphere.
Speaker 1: He's the most deceitful. He's like a fox, and a
Speaker 1: fox is almost is always more dangerous in the forest
Speaker 1: than the wolf. You can see the wolf coming, you
Speaker 1: know what he's up to, But the fox will fool you.
Speaker 1: He comes at you with his mouth shaped in such
Speaker 1: a way that even though you see his teeth. You
Speaker 1: think he's smiling. That was Malcolm X. I love that
Speaker 1: some people have seen the dangerous, deceitful, insulting nature of
Speaker 1: the white leftist. You know. Part of the reason we
Speaker 1: have so many of these horrendous government programs that will
Speaker 1: unquestionably bankrupt the United States of America. One of the
Speaker 1: main reasons for all that is Franklin delanor Roosevelt. And
Speaker 1: if you look into the Roosevelts at all as fascinating,
Speaker 1: Teddy went through this too. Even though I love Teddy personally,
Speaker 1: fascinating human being, he had the same kind of mentality
Speaker 1: of I am not going to be bound by laws.
Speaker 1: We are a wealthy, wealthy family, and these poor SAPs
Speaker 1: they need my guidance, they need my help. Here's all
Speaker 1: the things I'm going to get into office and do
Speaker 1: for the people, because I know better. And it always
Speaker 1: ends in doune. Always one thing to keep your eye on,
Speaker 1: one thing that's going to be very, very, very fascinating.
Speaker 1: Joe Biden. He opposes calls to defund the police, because,
Speaker 1: let's be honest, those calls are insane. To be a
Speaker 1: Democrat politician these days has to be a very difficult thing.
Speaker 1: You know, if you're Joe Biden, he's been around politics
Speaker 1: long enough to know he's not going to be elected
Speaker 1: president of the United States of America without Russ Belt
Speaker 1: swing voters. That's who decides elections. Remember, it's not you,
Speaker 1: it's not me. It's not the hardcore leftists in California,
Speaker 1: voters in the swing states like Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin,
Speaker 1: North Carolina, flo or to voters who voted for Barack
Speaker 1: Obama twice and then turned around and voted for Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Those are the voters who will decide who the next
Speaker 1: president of the United States of America will be. Remember,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump is your president today and Hillary Clinton is
Speaker 1: not your president today because of fifty thousand votes spread
Speaker 1: across those swing states. That's all. The other numbers don't matter.
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it. That's a fact. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you. That's a fact. And Joe Biden, or at
Speaker 1: least the people on his team who have a functioning brain, no,
Speaker 1: we have to get those people. So Joe Biden knows, Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: defund the police is not something that's going to have
Speaker 1: support with anybody outside of the radical base of the
Speaker 1: Democrat Party, it's ten percent public support. Maybe let's assume
Speaker 1: it's ten It's probably less than that. He knows that.
Speaker 1: But the reason it's got to be so difficult to
Speaker 1: be a Democrat today is that base is loud, and
Speaker 1: that base is powerful. When you have major US cities
Speaker 1: like the Minneapolis City Council declaring they're going to eliminate
Speaker 1: their police department, that's not a small thing. That's not
Speaker 1: just an online online phenomenon. People. That's a powerful, powerful thing.
Speaker 1: The leftist online rage mob is not without power. Joe
Speaker 1: Biden knows this. What do you do if you're Joe
Speaker 1: Biden and your radical, insane base is demanding something, and
Speaker 1: they're powerful, and they can hurt you, and you know
Speaker 1: for a fact it's the kind of thing if you
Speaker 1: embrace it, it will cost you the presidential election. What
Speaker 1: do you do? What do you do? How do you
Speaker 1: navigate that minefield? How do you manage that minefield? Something
Speaker 1: else that's happening in the country. The reason I see
Speaker 1: this fracture happening so quickly, Former New York politic, former
Speaker 1: NYPD commissioner claims six hundred officers are considering exiting the
Speaker 1: force We've seen this. We've saw a mass resignation in Buffalo.
Speaker 1: We see the cops in these big cities where their
Speaker 1: mayors are working against them, They're resigning. And why do
Speaker 1: I care about this so much? It's not just because
Speaker 1: I actually care about the cities like New York I love.
Speaker 1: I think it's reflective of the fracturing of America. You
Speaker 1: know what Kansas is doing. Kansas's legislature just past emergency powers,
Speaker 1: legislation protecting the Second Amendment. Do you see what's happening.
Speaker 1: Minneapolis is eliminating their police department. Kansas is entrenching the
Speaker 1: Second Amendment even further. The country is racing in opposite
Speaker 1: directions in these protests and the coronavirus lockdown or only
Speaker 1: accelerating these things. Falls do not happen all at once.
Speaker 1: But one day you do wake up and it was
Speaker 1: only a fifty some day siege, I believe fifty four.
Speaker 1: One day you do wake up and the Ottomans are
Speaker 1: outside of the walls of Constantinople, and you you realize,
Speaker 1: oh wow, it's already here. I thought we had more time.
Speaker 1: Why didn't we have more time? I don't like saying that,
Speaker 1: but I see how this country's going. Even the NASCAR
Speaker 1: president said, our sport and country need to do better
Speaker 1: on racial injustice. Every football player, Adrian Peterson in the
Speaker 1: NFL has already announced his intention to neil for the flag.
Speaker 1: That'll be rampant across the NFL. Remember last time the
Speaker 1: NFL did that, the ratings for the first time ever,
Speaker 1: the untouchable NFL when it comes to ratings, ratings went
Speaker 1: into the tank for the first time ever because people
Speaker 1: don't want to watch. Oh, it's happening again. The NBA
Speaker 1: is coming back. Do you have any idea how insufferable
Speaker 1: they're going to be. And they're all doing this because
Speaker 1: they live, work, and worship in these big cities, and
Speaker 1: they're these major corporations, and this leftist radical basis so loud,
Speaker 1: and they think everybody agrees, only everybody doesn't agree. And
Speaker 1: what you're doing is you're picking at the scab that
Speaker 1: America has right now, and you're just furthering the division
Speaker 1: it's happening right now. You're looking at it. You remember
Speaker 1: what I told you about the lockdowns, how it was
Speaker 1: going to be the greatest transfer of wealth in the
Speaker 1: history of the United States of America. Out of the
Speaker 1: middle class. There are now articles out saying this is
Speaker 1: the largest transfer of wealth ever outside of the middle class.
Speaker 1: I told you that was coming, people, I told you
Speaker 1: that was coming. We are fracturing. Hang on, against my
Speaker 1: better judgment. Allow us to go to our regular at
Speaker 1: this time every Tuesday. The host of World News with
Speaker 1: BK podcast former Air Force PJ BK. Let's just get
Speaker 1: it over with. You have some repulsive story you feel
Speaker 1: the need to destroy our audience with today. Well, yeah, Jesse,
Speaker 1: as you know on the podcast, I always like to
Speaker 1: finish strong, give a positive outlook on humanity. And I'm
Speaker 1: already I'm already starting this week. I already think I
Speaker 1: got the big finish. But the week is young yet.
Speaker 1: And this is, of course, the thirty year old man
Speaker 1: in China who had to have a dead fish removed
Speaker 1: from his rectum after he big air quotes here sat
Speaker 1: on it by accident. Quote. You know, we talked about
Speaker 1: this briefly earlier in the show. And call me crazy,
Speaker 1: b K. I believe it. I'm going to say I'm
Speaker 1: a little suspicious and I have noticed that every time
Speaker 1: one of these guys get something stuck in their backside,
Speaker 1: it's always by some one in a bazilion accident. Jesse shocking.
Speaker 1: You know, you wouldn't think that would happen, But I
Speaker 1: don't know. Okay, Now we have the elimination of police
Speaker 1: departments one, do you actually believe that it will happen anywhere?
Speaker 1: I mean this Minneapolis City Council they have a veto
Speaker 1: proof majority. It sounds like they're pushing forward. Do you
Speaker 1: believe it will happen if you do? What does it
Speaker 1: look like? Okay? So I don't really believe it's going
Speaker 1: to happen. I think the whole slogan and I'm seeing
Speaker 1: a lot of pushback an already because they're chanting like
Speaker 1: defund the police, abolish the police. All right, First of all,
Speaker 1: it's not going to happen. And I don't think people
Speaker 1: really realize how police unions work. And a great example
Speaker 1: is out here in Los Angeles, which I've been keeping
Speaker 1: an eye on. So stupid Mayor Eric Garcetti, right, he
Speaker 1: just proposed a massive increase to the police budget before
Speaker 1: all the riots happened, and I had to go look
Speaker 1: it up because the dishonest LA Times and their lie
Speaker 1: of omission doesn't give you a dollar out. But Garcetti
Speaker 1: proposed increasing the LAPD budget from one point one nine
Speaker 1: billion to one point eight six billion. That's a huge number, right,
Speaker 1: So then he comes out and he says, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna cut one hundred and fifty million, but that's just
Speaker 1: from the increase. So the net increase Jesse is still
Speaker 1: six hundred and ninety million dollars. And this is something
Speaker 1: that politicians do all the time. They take a scheduled increase,
Speaker 1: they cut a little bit from the scheduled increase, and
Speaker 1: then they proudly announced their cutting spending. Okay, so that's
Speaker 1: you have to know. They do that all the time.
Speaker 1: And the unions, for their part, they're a little dishonest too,
Speaker 1: because you know, Garcetti comes out and says I'm going
Speaker 1: to cut one hundred and fifty million, and the unions
Speaker 1: starts screaming like what, we can't be expected to police
Speaker 1: the streets that way. And it's like they leave out
Speaker 1: also that they're still getting seven hundred million dollars more
Speaker 1: than they did the previous year, do you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying? So the police unions, if you want to
Speaker 1: have a talk about reigning in the power of municipal unions. Jesse, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm ready to have that talk. But let's talk about
Speaker 1: every municipal unionique US, including the teachers unions, the government
Speaker 1: workers and all that. Because police unions if you want
Speaker 1: to if you don't do what they if you don't
Speaker 1: want to play ball, they're gonna rally their troops and
Speaker 1: vote against your competitor, the politicians. So I really don't
Speaker 1: see it happening. B K. Why be a big city
Speaker 1: cop anymore? I genuinely do not understand it. Man. Is
Speaker 1: it an adrenaline junkie thing? Is it an action thing?
Speaker 1: Because I have to be honest, if I committed my
Speaker 1: life to service like that, if I was in law enforcement,
Speaker 1: and look, a lot of that is adrenaline stuff. That's
Speaker 1: just the nature of the beast. People don't like to
Speaker 1: admit it. Man, I'd be in the burbs somewhere. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it's funny. I was. I have gotten some
Speaker 1: messages a very good friend of mine that I used
Speaker 1: to contract with, the former Army ranger, right war veteran,
Speaker 1: decorated war hero, and he became a cop in a
Speaker 1: big city police department in Texas, and he was texting
Speaker 1: me and he says, and I asked him, I'm like,
Speaker 1: what do you think is the problem with the cops?
Speaker 1: Like these cops, Like why would some guy just stand
Speaker 1: there and like choke a guided death and whatever. And
Speaker 1: he's like, you know what, it starts at the academy.
Speaker 1: These guys are not equipped to handle adversity very well.
Speaker 1: It starts in the academy and it trickles down into
Speaker 1: their field training officers. And yes, you do have some
Speaker 1: bad ones and that's where it all starts. He's like,
Speaker 1: I've had to tell guys. He the guy who was
Speaker 1: in Iraq, you know, surrounded by jihadists has had to
Speaker 1: tell cops to settle down and pull them off dudes.
Speaker 1: And you know, there are there are some bad police.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, Jesse, according all
Speaker 1: the polls I was just doing this story on the
Speaker 1: podcast last Saturday, cops are popular. People like the police,
Speaker 1: and that's like the dirty little secret right now. They're
Speaker 1: twice as trusted as the media as an institution, and
Speaker 1: they're five times more trusted than Congress. So people like cops.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, I don't see how far this
Speaker 1: is gonna get. And they're already starting to panic. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you saw in Chicago, but they're basically
Speaker 1: on a conference called the Mayor with a bunch of
Speaker 1: aldermen there because they just got like all kinds of
Speaker 1: stuff burned down, and all these people, all these alderman
Speaker 1: in Chicago are screaming to the social justice warrior mayor,
Speaker 1: like you let all of our stores burn down. We
Speaker 1: have nothing here, and they're like really panicking now, Jesse.
Speaker 1: So I think the reality is starting to set in
Speaker 1: a little bit. What if we went back to a
Speaker 1: Greek model of city states. It's intriguing. It's intriguing, you
Speaker 1: know what. I will say. I don't really know what
Speaker 1: the answer is With the police. I do think if
Speaker 1: you're a good cop, I think the body camera is
Speaker 1: actually should be a helper to you, you know, because
Speaker 1: if you're doing the right thing and somebody's filing charges
Speaker 1: against you, complaints on you, you're going to have that camera.
Speaker 1: So I mean I would want my camera and all
Speaker 1: the time. Personally, so the guys who are complaining about
Speaker 1: the cameras, that's usually like a red flag to me,
Speaker 1: like maybe you're doing something you're not supposed to be
Speaker 1: doing because if you're a good cop, you want that camera.
Speaker 1: I would want it. It's funny you bring that up,
Speaker 1: because when I initially heard these everybody, every cop needs
Speaker 1: a camera proposal, I was totally against it, and then
Speaker 1: I got to thinking, wait, it's the only thing that
Speaker 1: exonerates these guys from crap charges all the time. My
Speaker 1: only issue with it is this b K and there's
Speaker 1: nothing that can be done about this. There's an accusation
Speaker 1: out there, almost always one of racism, and it'll catch fire.
Speaker 1: It'll be across every headline, every social media post. Everyone
Speaker 1: on the left and half the virtue signaling losers on
Speaker 1: the right will be talking about this cops the scumbag.
Speaker 1: And then two months later, the bodycam video comes out
Speaker 1: showing the guy did nothing wrong, won't make a blip
Speaker 1: on anyone's radar, and it moves along and his reputations
Speaker 1: trash anyway, right, you know, and they should they should.
Speaker 1: The one thing I have most you're doing is they're
Speaker 1: releasing that bodycam footage a lot sooner than they YouTube now.
Speaker 1: It's like a matter of a day or two, not
Speaker 1: like two months. I mean, frankly, Jesse, if we're wearing bodycamps.
Speaker 1: I would want one facing outward, and I'd also want
Speaker 1: one facing upwards to me so you can see the glory.
Speaker 1: Can the bicep muscles? Jesse? Are you kidding? Met the
Speaker 1: ap veins? Stop sending me pictures, by the way, stop
Speaker 1: sending me pictures. Just so everybody knows. B K sent
Speaker 1: me a shirtless workout picture before he got on the
Speaker 1: air today saying he's ready to come on the air.
Speaker 1: Stop sending me picture or I'm blocking. I'm blocking, Jesse.
Speaker 1: There's so much ugliness in this world. Off granite carved body,
Speaker 1: all right, b K? Quickly? Is there anything going on?
Speaker 1: And internationally we need to know about well, the troop
Speaker 1: cuts in Germany. I've been tracking that the US is
Speaker 1: proposing a draw down of a third of our troops,
Speaker 1: which I think it translates from it's about ten thousand
Speaker 1: troops going for like thirty five and twenty five thousand,
Speaker 1: and I'm keeping on that one. Predictably, everybody's freaking out
Speaker 1: about it, forgetting that we used to have hundreds of
Speaker 1: thousands of troops in Germany and we haven't for a
Speaker 1: long time. So I am keeping an eye on it,
Speaker 1: though we'll be curious to see if that actually goes
Speaker 1: through or if Congress puts a stop on that one one.
Speaker 1: I'll be watching it. I'm not sure what the big
Speaker 1: deal is. It's not like we've ever had any problems
Speaker 1: with Germany anyway. I know, Jesse, you do anything there
Speaker 1: and now every starts screaming Putin. You know, Vladimir Putin,
Speaker 1: this is what Putin wants. And I'm like, okay, you
Speaker 1: know you can't even that's the biggest Jesse. I can't
Speaker 1: even talk to people anymore. You can't explain ray statistics,
Speaker 1: police statistics. You can't explain how a few times cops
Speaker 1: actually shoot an unknown person out of the millions and
Speaker 1: millions of interactions they have every year, because it's like
Speaker 1: these people are just as a religious frenzy. Now you
Speaker 1: can't explain it. I'm not even trying anymore, honestly, because
Speaker 1: it's just like people don't want to hear it. Host
Speaker 1: of World News with BK appreciate you, my friend. Thanks Jesse.
Speaker 1: I think such an idiot. If he sends me one
Speaker 1: more picture, Chris, I'm gonna lose my mind. Oh boy,
Speaker 1: all right, we have had enough controversy on today's show. Ris.
Speaker 1: We've had enough controversy, We've had enough bringing up uncomfortable things.
Speaker 1: So we're going to do something here in this last segment,
Speaker 1: we're going to set all that controversial stuff aside, and
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about the Confederacy. We are across
Speaker 1: this nation removing anything in everything that ever had to
Speaker 1: do with the Confederacy or the South. They're removing a
Speaker 1: plaque that honored soldiers in the Confederacy from University of Alabama.
Speaker 1: I just saw Deshaun Watson, our own Deshaun Watson and
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins are calling for the removal of John Calhoun's
Speaker 1: name from some special college in Clemson. I'm looking at
Speaker 1: this is obviously way before the Confederacy or the Civil War.
Speaker 1: Missouri students demand removal of racist Thomas Jefferson statue. So
Speaker 1: on and so on and so on. I'm gonna hit
Speaker 1: you with a couple of things that are undoubtedly going
Speaker 1: to get me in trouble. I don't care it's times
Speaker 1: somebody said it. If you're blaming the Civil War for
Speaker 1: your problems, I think maybe you need to keep looking
Speaker 1: for who to blame. That's one. Two. People love to
Speaker 1: simplify things because It makes things more palatable, It makes
Speaker 1: things so much easier to consume and define. What have
Speaker 1: you learned from all this time listening to these various
Speaker 1: things we've tackled, these various parts of history, battles, rulers,
Speaker 1: insane people. Have you not learned? How complicated things are?
Speaker 1: You like to simplify things to be frank? World War Two,
Speaker 1: the fight against the Nazis is one of the only
Speaker 1: simple conflicts I can even find in the history of
Speaker 1: the world. Okay, that's clearly the freaking bad guys. There's
Speaker 1: wattering millions of Jews. Those are the bad guys. The
Speaker 1: guys opposing them are the good guys. Oh wait, the
Speaker 1: Russians row. Do you see what I mean? It takes
Speaker 1: a moron or somebody just being lazy to look back
Speaker 1: at something like the Confederacy and say, well, obviously, Nazi racists, buddy.
Speaker 1: Slavery is an evil scourge. It's a shameful, shameful part
Speaker 1: of our history. However, it's also the history of virtually
Speaker 1: every single nation in the history of the world. Slavery
Speaker 1: is part of human history. Yes, it's an ugly problem.
Speaker 1: I wish we'd never ever done it, but We're also
Speaker 1: not unique. It's a problem everybody's faced at one point
Speaker 1: or another. That's one. Two. The Confederacy, we are talking
Speaker 1: one percent owned slaves. It was a bunch of rich
Speaker 1: people owning slaves and then a bunch of poor people,
Speaker 1: bunch of poor white farmers. That's two. Three. Are you
Speaker 1: ready for this? If you're somebody who is strictly followed
Speaker 1: government guidelines when it comes to coronavirus, I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you something about yourself. You're not gonna like you ready?
Speaker 1: You would have fought for the Confederacy. What do I
Speaker 1: mean by that? Those guys were doing what everyone else
Speaker 1: was doing. The guys who put on the rebel uniform.
Speaker 1: You're in Tennessee. The Union Army comes into Tennessee, they
Speaker 1: flat out And I've told you this before. I heard
Speaker 1: it in a great documentary. They captured a Tennessee rebel
Speaker 1: and said, what are you doing this for? You don't
Speaker 1: know anything about the Constitution or anything. Why are you
Speaker 1: fighting us? And he said, well, you're down here. I
Speaker 1: didn't invade your state. You invaded by state. If you're
Speaker 1: somebody who goes along with the consensus, if you're somebody
Speaker 1: who goes along with whatever the crowd is doing, with
Speaker 1: whatever leadership tells you you should do. If that's your
Speaker 1: nature and that's most of us, then you would have
Speaker 1: put on that Confederate uniform too. I laugh at all
Speaker 1: these modern day do gooders. A racism, this racism, and
Speaker 1: it was racist. I'm not saying it wasn't. Brother, you
Speaker 1: would not have been defecting to the North to fight
Speaker 1: for the Union against the South. You're lying to yourself
Speaker 1: and everyone else using modern sensibilities. If you were born
Speaker 1: in the heart of Georgia in eighteen thirty, brother, you
Speaker 1: would have had that must get in your hands bayonetting
Speaker 1: and shooting Union troops, defending your state and defending the
Speaker 1: gross institution of slavery. That is an undeniable fact. The
Speaker 1: history of the world proves it to be so. Human
Speaker 1: nature proves it to be so. One last thing on this,
Speaker 1: aren't all these Confederate things that still exist? Aren't they lessons?
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