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Speaker 1: Here's my problem with Melvin Gordon twofold one. I wanna

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Speaker 1: Don't let your friends who act like you're getting screwed.

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a pain in two thousand nineteen,

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't even think twice about it. He would get

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Speaker 1: the money that he wanted. And you know he you

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Speaker 1: could argue he was just three or four years early.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's like it's like the three point shot

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Speaker 1: in basketball. Think of his value now when you really

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Speaker 1: can't touch him, it would be a rap. And I

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Speaker 1: think Michael Thomas and all these wide receivers coming up

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Speaker 1: the pipe, or just a great example, the jujus, all

435
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Speaker 1: the young guys that have infiltrated this league the last

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Speaker 1: two or three years of just the game changing at

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Speaker 1: a perfect time for them to cash in economically. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's get into uh into Andrew Luck and the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame game has started behind me And I saw

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Speaker 1: Fangio is he has a kidney stone and he's coaching

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Speaker 1: through it. And I remember my dad when I was

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Speaker 1: growing up. Maybe had a couple, but definitely I remember

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Speaker 1: the one he was bedridden for a couple of days

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Speaker 1: in so much pain trying to pass the thing. And

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Speaker 1: they just said, and Jo's on a couple of wonder drops.

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Speaker 1: Who knows what p ds he's on a great part

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Speaker 1: of being a coach. You can take pds to make

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Speaker 1: the pain go away. But but I also think, and

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Speaker 1: I say this all the time, any industry you're in,

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Speaker 1: whether it's football, whether it's talking for a living, like

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Speaker 1: a lot of people are on p ds in some

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Speaker 1: form or fashion, whether it's CBD, whether it's adderall, whether

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Speaker 1: it's something. I mean, everyone and every profession is looking

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Speaker 1: for an edge. Like most people don't naturally have a

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Speaker 1: ton of energy the older they get. But if you

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Speaker 1: think about it, like your your competition, you might be

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Speaker 1: going up against his five year old with a ton

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Speaker 1: of energy. He's probably on something you know, his doctor prescribed,

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Speaker 1: or maybe just sucking down ten cups of coffee. He's

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Speaker 1: doing something to gain an edge. That they always are.

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Speaker 1: And in football, there's never been an easier time for

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks to gain an edge in terms of playing into

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Speaker 1: their their latter years. Now it's pretty normal for a

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Speaker 1: quarterback to play like it feels like kind of Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers young er rodg is thirty five years old. Back

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Speaker 1: in the day, this career would be over. I mean

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Speaker 1: it feels like Aaron Rodgers got three or four really

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Speaker 1: good years left. He's gonna probably play at least forty.

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Speaker 1: Drew Brees is forty. I mean, Brady is the all

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Speaker 1: time outlier forty two. Peyton Manning overcame that crazy neck

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Speaker 1: surgery and basically played until he was thirty thirty nine

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Speaker 1: years old. Like people, quarterbacks don't leave this league at

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Speaker 1: thirty five years old anymore. That they play until their

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Speaker 1: forty held. Eli man he hasn't even been good for

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Speaker 1: a while, and he's still cranking along at thirty six

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Speaker 1: years old, cranking along and be strong. But you get

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Speaker 1: my drift. Now, when you look at the younger quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: there's like this middle ground of guys, right, because there's

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Speaker 1: the young quarterbacks, the Mahomes, the Watson's, the Baker's, that

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Speaker 1: whole crew. Then there's just middle crew, and it's really

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Speaker 1: kind of three standouts in my opinion, Luck Russell Wilson

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Speaker 1: in camp, and I'm not that confident that any of

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Speaker 1: them are gonna get to forty. Now, Cam Newton I

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Speaker 1: would definitely bet against because he's already had a ton

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Speaker 1: of injuries and just the physical nature and he plays

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Speaker 1: he feels like a thirty five year old that's actually

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Speaker 1: thirty Russell who somehow has never missed a game in

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Speaker 1: his career. I looked it up the other day. I

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Speaker 1: forget the exact number. It was like one twelve for

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Speaker 1: one twelve. You just go across his his you know,

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Speaker 1: uh NFL dot com page sixteen for sixteen all seven years.

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Speaker 1: The dude is just an ironman. Andrew Luck is somewhat

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Speaker 1: the opposite. He's much closer to camp. If anything, he's

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Speaker 1: been the most injured out of the three guys. He

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Speaker 1: missed an entire season in two thousand seven an entire seat,

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Speaker 1: excuse me, two thousand seventeen missed the entire season, and

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Speaker 1: in two thousand fifteen he missed seven games. And right

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Speaker 1: now is reported a couple of days ago that he

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Speaker 1: has a calf injury. Now, on the surface, a calf

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Speaker 1: injury isn't that big of a deal, right, just the

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Speaker 1: calf injury. You know, it's August one who cares whether

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Speaker 1: you practice or not. And yeah, at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, I don't really But the one thing that

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Speaker 1: concerns me is because and it's not his fault, and

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Speaker 1: he actually has become a smarter player. But the team

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Speaker 1: that Ryan Grigson gave him and continued to build around

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Speaker 1: him most got him killed. We know that that coss

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Speaker 1: Ryan Griggson his job and he'll never be a GM

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Speaker 1: in the league again. But Andrew Luck, I hope, and

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Speaker 1: I think he's the best of that group, of the

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton, of the Russell Wilson group. And what's crazy

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Speaker 1: is you could argue he's accomplished the least. Right, Russell's

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Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl as a starting quarterback. Now, he

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Speaker 1: was nowhere near as good as he was now, but

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Speaker 1: he's super Bowl champion and he's been to another. Grantedy

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Speaker 1: through the pick at the at the goal line, but

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Cam Newton League, m v

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Speaker 1: P led a team to the Super Bowl. Now, granted

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Speaker 1: I profited because I bet the house against him, and

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Speaker 1: I want a lot of money of the Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 1: But m v P been to Super Bowl, Andrew Luck hasn't.

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Speaker 1: Farthest he got was then FC Championship game with a

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Speaker 1: terrible team. I mean, those guys have played on good teams,

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Speaker 1: his teams, how they made to the conference championship his

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Speaker 1: third year in the league is beyond me. But he's

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Speaker 1: had serious injuries and he consistently gets injured. I am

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Speaker 1: just nervous that the trajectory of his career, how does

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Speaker 1: he make it even close to forty years old. I'm

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Speaker 1: not even confident that he'll still be humming at thirty five.

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Speaker 1: It just feels like it's always something with the guy.

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Speaker 1: And again I don't totally blame him. He got destroyed

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Speaker 1: his first couple of years because his offensive line was

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Speaker 1: basically me, you and three other guys. I mean, it

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Speaker 1: was terrible. It couldn't have been any worse. But just

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Speaker 1: the style that he plays. Maybe it's just his body type.

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Speaker 1: And I don't mean actually his physical stature, because he's

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Speaker 1: everything you look for, right he's six five, he's two pounds,

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Speaker 1: he's building a linebacker. But for whatever reason, maybe his

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Speaker 1: bone density. I'm not a doctor. I don't quite understand

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Speaker 1: these things. Why Russell Wilson hasn't missed a game and

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Speaker 1: this guy's missed all these games. They both played a

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Speaker 1: terrible offensive line. It doesn't quite make sense. But I

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Speaker 1: know the one thing that does make sense if you

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Speaker 1: were treating Andrew look like a stock, and you said,

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Speaker 1: will he still be a starting quarterback at thirty eight?

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Speaker 1: When I say starting quarterback, like, will still be in

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Speaker 1: the league at thirty eight, He'll be thirty Here in

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Speaker 1: a month, I would bet no. I I would say

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Speaker 1: the number where I would feel confident going over would

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Speaker 1: be thirty four. Any number over that I would be

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Speaker 1: a little apprehensive. I would not be confident in taking

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Speaker 1: the over. Now. Doesn't mean I'm gonna be right, but

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Speaker 1: it's just it's always a nick. It's always a bruise.

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Speaker 1: It's been major injuries. Hell, it was the snowboarding accident,

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Speaker 1: whatever it was. It's kind of always something with Andrew Luck.

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Speaker 1: So if you're a Colts fan, I would really really

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Speaker 1: try to enjoy these next couple of years. Your team's equipped,

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Speaker 1: your GM's legit, your coach seems good. Your window is now,

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Speaker 1: Your window is one like the Carolina Panthers window with

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Speaker 1: cam kind of being might be a shot fighter, we'll

561
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Speaker 1: see it might already be over. Seattle's window feels like

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Speaker 1: it's longer just because Russell Russell more life is gonna

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Speaker 1: play just longer than most two guys. But if you're Indie,

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Speaker 1: you probably need to win a super Bowl in these

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Speaker 1: next couple of years. If it's gonna happen on the

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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck, watch because what we've seen, it'll be a calf,

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Speaker 1: then it will be an arm, then it will be

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Speaker 1: an oblique, then his shoulder will go out again. You

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Speaker 1: gotta put all your chips in the middle of the table.

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Speaker 1: And I give Chris Ballard credit. He's built a really

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Speaker 1: good team. They're equipped to take advantage of it. Right now,

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Speaker 1: I think they could be a They are a legitimate

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl contender this year, and next year they probably

574
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Speaker 1: should only be even better. But just the way this

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Speaker 1: this player has shown us that his durability is somewhat

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Speaker 1: a question mark, you gotta take advantage of it. I'm

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Speaker 1: bullish on the Colts. I I'd be shocked if they're

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Speaker 1: not a one or two seed. Probably at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day when you look at the Chiefs, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if the Patriots are gonna be quite

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Speaker 1: as good. You know, I think that I think the

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Speaker 1: Colts could win thirteen games. But but the time is now,

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Speaker 1: and we got to enjoy Andrew Luck. When we have

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Speaker 1: them because we might not have them for that much longer. Well,

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00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: you know, most people, I think, assume this just an

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Speaker 1: NFL podcast, and I got news for you. It's not. Now.

587
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Speaker 1: I talk a lot of NFL because that at cash cow,

588
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Speaker 1: number one sport in America, but college football ain't far behind.

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Speaker 1: I love college football, big college football fan. For about

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Speaker 1: twelve straight weeks in the fall, I consume it from

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Speaker 1: sun up till sundown on Saturdays, well after the sun's

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Speaker 1: down because the Pact twelve games go late late into

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Speaker 1: the night. Uh. And you know, I'm always down to

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Speaker 1: talk college football. Obviously, probably the NFL takes precedent on

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Speaker 1: this show, and we got a little more going on,

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Speaker 1: and I'm all, I live on the West Coast and

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Speaker 1: the Pact twelves well down. But I love college football,

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Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people just in general

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Speaker 1: are somewhat down on it because they feel it's so

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Speaker 1: top heavy. It's kind of become like the NBA, only

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Speaker 1: two or three teams have a chance to win. And

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Speaker 1: I think there's some validity to that, which is fair.

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Speaker 1: Kind of feels somewhat like a two team race Alabama

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Speaker 1: and Clemson. Now, I think George is gonna be really

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Speaker 1: good this year. I think this is definitely the year

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Speaker 1: from Michigan and Jim Harbo to get the job done.

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Speaker 1: Wild State is loaded. I just don't trust the coach.

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Speaker 1: Oregon is somewhat of a wild card, but it can't

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Speaker 1: be disputed their teams really talented. Washington is obviously good.

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Speaker 1: But to me, when the top twenty five came out today,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's USA today, a po pole whatever.

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Speaker 1: I don't even look at it past five really, you know,

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Speaker 1: because it's irrelevant. But one thing that's pretty clear is

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Speaker 1: there's a new number one in town, and that's the

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Speaker 1: Clemson Tigers. And I think it's bigger than that. I

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Speaker 1: think there's a new big dog in college football and

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Speaker 1: that's Dabbo Sweeney. It with Urban Meyer retired at least

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Speaker 1: for the year, I think we all think he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be uh fraud Meyers I like to call them. We'll

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Speaker 1: be the head coach at USC next year. But when

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Speaker 1: it comes to college football, that there was one guy

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Speaker 1: that can match with Urban gone. I'm not a fan

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Speaker 1: of Urban off the field, but I've never disputed he

624
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Speaker 1: was an elite coach and every bit of Nick Saban's equal. Well,

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Speaker 1: once he fell off the map and left there was

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Speaker 1: you know, it's like, who's gonna be Nick Sabans equal.

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Speaker 1: What's pretty clear that the Dabbli Sweeney is his equal.

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Speaker 1: And a wise man once told me, and this is

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Speaker 1: always stuck with me. His name is Phil Savage. He

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Speaker 1: now works for the New York Jets. When he was

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Speaker 1: he when he was running the Senior Bowl. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't quite understand the southern geography. All I know

633
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: is you can drive everywhere. Like he lived in Mobile, Alabama.

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Speaker 1: He could drive to Florida State, he could drive to Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: he could drive to Tennessee. He could he could just

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Speaker 1: drive everywhere and it wasn't that far. Well, he used

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Speaker 1: when he was scouting, but definitely doing the Senior Bowl

639
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: to all the major schools down there. And obviously he

640
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: was working for Alabama, but he used to go to

641
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: Florida State and he would always tell me, and this

642
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: when Jimbo kind of got them rolling, he said, the

643
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: big advantage and this was before Clemson took off, the

644
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: big advantage Florida st has. And remember when Jimbo won

645
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: the national championship. That team with Jamis Winston was absolutely

646
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: loaded with NFL players. He said they were recruiting an

647
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: sc C player, but they play an A C C schedule.

648
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: And once Jimbo, you know, some weird ship happened with

649
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,479
Speaker 1: his wife and ex Florida football player, and he kind

650
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: of gave up on the program and left. Florida State

651
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: fell off the map. Clemson has even taken it to

652
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: a different level than Jimbo had it going to Florida State.

653
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: He's won two of the three last national championships. He's

654
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: five and two in the College Football Playoffs. But like Jimbo,

655
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: and even maybe slightly better, he's recruiting an SEC player

656
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: and he's playing an A CEC schedule, and he's kicking

657
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: the living crap out of everyone. And I think you're

658
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: looking at a guy. I did this a little research.

659
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: When Nick saban first one is national championship at l

660
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: s U in two thousand three, he was over fifty

661
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: years old. Davil Sweeney is forty nine years old and

662
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: already has two national championships and a team that's heavily

663
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: favored to win this year's and they're gonna be in

664
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: the mix these next couple of years because they have

665
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: a sophomore quarterback who is viewed as a Peyton Manning

666
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck level prospect. And I think we'd all agree

667
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: he's pretty damn good. So for as much as you know,

668
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: we wish there was a little more parody in college football,

669
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: and I do. I wish fifteen teams have a shot

670
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: the reality maybe five do, right, Clemson, Bama probably on

671
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 1: a level by themselves, Georgia, Ohio State and and uh

672
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: and maybe maybe Michigan is probably maybe Oklahoma, I mean,

673
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: it's maybe maybe Texas. I mean, it's a very very

674
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 1: small group. But what Dabbo is doing right now should

675
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: be applauded because, you know what, in fairness to Dabbo,

676
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 1: like Jimmy Johnson was kind of a dick, Nick kind

677
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: of is an asshole. The one thing they say about Dabbo,

678
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: you know, he's pretty friendly. Everyone likes him. Now he's

679
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: a coach, so he gets on guys, but he runs

680
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 1: a family oriented program. His players clearly really like him.

681
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: And like Saban, he's an elite recruiter, and he's an

682
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: elite recruiter in terms of getting NFL guys like even

683
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: when Jimbo had Florida State humming, or he's gonna turn

684
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: around tex saying m One thing is clear, Jimbo is

685
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: kind of an ass like he's not the nicest guy

686
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: to deal with. The devil seems like a great guy,

687
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: and he's a big time football coach. His assistants like

688
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: working for him, the players play hard for him. They're

689
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 1: clearly really well coached. He's highly compensated. Wikipedia said he

690
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: makes over nine million dollars worth every penny. Forty nine

691
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: years old. His record is a hundred and sixteen and

692
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: thirty at Clemson, two natties five and two in the

693
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: College football playoffs. This, this guy is a winner at

694
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: the highest level. This guy's trajectory, like, how does he

695
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 1: not become Nick Saban of the sport? I don't see

696
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: how he doesn't sustain it, because clearly his standards are

697
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: sky high. He's probably arguably a little easier to play

698
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: for than Nick in the sense that you're not getting

699
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: yelled at, maybe quite as much by him. And I

700
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: don't see Clemson going away anytime soon. Now. The curveball

701
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: and this entire thing is he's an Alabama graduate. He

702
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: aid football at Alabama. Nick Saban sixty seven years old.

703
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: Let's say he coaches until he's seventy. Eventually he's gonna retire. Well,

704
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: who's gonna be Alabama's number one target? It's gonna be

705
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: Dabbo Sweeney. Now, with Clemson winning at such a high level,

706
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 1: money is not an issue for them. Dabbl's making nine

707
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 1: plus million, His defensive coordinator makes a couple of million

708
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: worth every penny the money they generate for the school.

709
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if he takes a job or not.

710
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: And you know they usually say the person to follow.

711
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: You want to be the guy second to follow a Parcels,

712
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: you know, or a Saban. You never want to be

713
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: the first guy to do it. You want to wait

714
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: for that the guy to get fired, and then follow him.

715
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: But if your Dabbo in Holmes home, you know, I

716
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: don't know if you know it's at that point it's

717
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: not gonna be about the money. I don't know. If

718
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: you had a chance to see the athletic did an

719
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: in depth thing on Colin it was like a twelve

720
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: minute piece that you know, like a real sports type piece.

721
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 1: The athletics doing that, and I actually got a chance

722
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: to see Colin when I went down there in the

723
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: or during free agency, And the thing that stood out

724
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 1: to me the most was, I remember I was staying

725
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: I was staying in like a shittier hotel thirty minutes away.

726
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: I got up at four forty five. I didn't even

727
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: beat him there. He he was there like five thirty

728
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: in the morning. Like and Colin said on this athletic piece,

729
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: at this point in time in my life, I'm not

730
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 1: doing this for the money, like Dabble Sweeney, Nick Saban,

731
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: they ain't doing it for the money. They've already made

732
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: a ton of money. They've already had the accolades. Like

733
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 1: I'm a grinder because I just it's just woven in me.

734
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,280
Speaker 1: What deep down something in me. It's still watching Colin

735
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: get ready for a show. At what time they get

736
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: there is up at this point in time in my life,

737
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 1: one of the most inspiring things I've ever seen professionally. Right,

738
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: it's just how hard that guy grinds despite being at

739
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 1: the highest level of his profession, the best talk show

740
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: radio host in America, obviously the most famous, most powerful voice,

741
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: and he grinds like he's a nobody. And that's always

742
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: what they tell you about Belichick, Dabbo Nick, if he

743
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: did want to follow Nick, Alabama would dominate. So I

744
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: do think that's on the table. But at the end

745
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: of the day, what we're witnessing is with Urban retiring,

746
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: at least for now, Nick coming down the home stretch.

747
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 1: This is the new Saban, This is the new Jimmy Johnson,

748
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: Tom Osborne. Now he has his own personality and like

749
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: as Matt Naggy writes on his play sheet, be you.

750
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: He doesn't fake it, like you don't be an asshole.

751
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: If you're not an asshole, whether you're a coach or

752
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: whether you're middle management, just be yourself. Be yourself now,

753
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: hold high standards, its professional environment, whatever you're doing, but

754
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: be you. And I give Dabble a lot of credit.

755
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: He's him. Now they win, and they win at a

756
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: high level, and they benefit. Like Phil says, they recruit

757
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: an SEC player, and he recruits at the highest level.

758
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 1: He goes right toe to toe with Alabama and Georgia,

759
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: and he plays an easier schedule. Now that Florida State sucks,

760
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: Miami sucks, Duke whatever, Pitt. You know, the schedule is

761
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: not that hard, but they take advantage of it, and

762
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: you can't say that they're not on the on the

763
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: level once they get there, because once they get to

764
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: the college football playoffs, they dominate. We're we're witnessing a

765
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: younger version of saving here that this is what we're witnessing.

766
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: It's happening in front of our eyes. So you can

767
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: root for parody, and in a perfect world, I'd like it,

768
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: But I also enjoy watching Dabbo's team play. I like

769
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 1: watching the joy and the fire that he gets out

770
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: of coaching football. I'm a huge Dabbo Sweeney fan, and

771
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: they're not going away anytime soon. The only question is

772
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: gonna be moving forward is would he ever think about

773
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: replacing Nick? And my gut, I don't know the guy,

774
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: just watch him from Afar. I would doubt that he

775
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: does because he could build a legendary he could build Alabama. Hell,

776
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: he has built Alabama at the University of Clemson. Let's

777
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: dive into the Middlecoff mail Bag, I got to the

778
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame game on the background, volume down. It

779
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: just looks terrible, I mean looks absolutely awful. Fangio again

780
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: to somehow coaching with a with a kidney stone. John

781
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: loved the podcast in the In Your Insight Quick Question.

782
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: I have coached JUCO ball in Kansas, Texas and now

783
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: I'm in East Mississippi. Whoa season one to last chance?

784
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: To you? That's pretty cool? How does one get a

785
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: job in scouting professionally? I know talent. I recruited the

786
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: coach and coach guys like DeMarcus Lawrence, Michael Gallup, Chris Carson.

787
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: You've recruited a lot of people. I I always tell

788
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: people that get get involved in college football. You know,

789
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: college recruiting. Clearly you're already coaching the j C. So

790
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: when these college coaches come through your j C, try

791
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: to get just move up a program or when they

792
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: come through, especially if you're at now the JUCO in Mississippi,

793
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: that you have big time Division one prospects. Whenever you

794
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: get a coordinator or definitely a head coach, let them

795
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: know that you want in. Let them know that if

796
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: they want to recruiting, you know, ahead of recruiting, you'd

797
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 1: be interested. You know, you just sometimes you just gotta ask.

798
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: And the older I'm getting now that I could basically

799
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: run my own business, and now it's different, and I

800
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: understand when you're working for someone you're always looking for

801
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: another job. People get unsure. But as a wise man

802
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: once told me, the only person that truly cares about you,

803
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: you know, outside of your family professionally, is you. So

804
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 1: you you gotta worry about yourself first. Uh, get involved

805
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: in college football, college football recruiting. Then if you can

806
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: get to the right program, all the scouts come through

807
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 1: that program, and then you can meet him that That's

808
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: usually probably the best way to go. Okay, I'd be

809
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: interested in you're taking on Daniel Jones. I've not read

810
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: or heard anything positive from the on the Giants picking

811
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: this guy. Am I wishful thinking that he had a

812
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: lot of drops to Duke and can count them as

813
00:41:53,960 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: catches that he's on the se accuracy? True? Thanks, Yeah,

814
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: I mean I'll be the first one to be to

815
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: tell you that it's not like I was living and

816
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: dining with Daniel Jones and Duke. I relied on my

817
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 1: scouting buddies that had the sec And if I'm gonna

818
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,959
Speaker 1: pick a positive thing for to tell you, the one

819
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: thing they all said was they liked him. He was

820
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: liked in the scouting community now number six overall. Pick liked,

821
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: of course, not but as a fringe first round prospect.

822
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I got Drew Lock on my television who

823
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: went early in the second round of the Denver Broncos.

824
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people in the league that

825
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: like Daniel Jones more and Drew Lock. Now again, the

826
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: Broncos got Drew Lock in the second round. The New

827
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: York Giants and Dave Geentleman took Drew Lock as the

828
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: sixth overall pick, which is pretty nuts. So I I

829
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: think Daniel Jones the hardest thing for him to overcome

830
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: is the instant negativity is most fans fans have never

831
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: had more information. Fans are the You guys are lifeblood

832
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: of the sport, and now you're informed at levels that

833
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: you never were in the past. You guys aren't dumb.

834
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,720
Speaker 1: Why everyone's so pissed is because they say, why would

835
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: we take this guy at the sixth overall pick, not

836
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: necessarily that he's a scrub, that he wasn't worth the

837
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: sixth overall pick. That's where all the anger comes from.

838
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be hard for him to overcome that.

839
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: It's hard to general to overcome just your draft status.

840
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: When you're drafted really high, you know, it puts a

841
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: lot of unfair expectations on a lot of players. Now,

842
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: it's easy when you're Mahomes or Khalil Mack or Odell

843
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 1: Beckham Jr. But when you're a guy that probably should

844
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: have been taken in the second round and you go

845
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: in the top ten, it's even if you become a

846
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: good player, it's hard to overcome that. I'm watching it.

847
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Speaker 1: I have a front row seat with a couple of

848
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 1: guys here in the Bay Area. Solomon Thomas never should

849
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: have been taking it pick three. He may eventually become

850
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: a better player than he's been, but he's never gonna

851
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: live up to the third overall pick, just like Colton

852
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: Miller with the Raiders. No one thought Colton Miller with

853
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: the Raider is gonna go in the first round, and

854
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: then Gruden took him at fifteen. It's just it's hard

855
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: to overcome your draft round when it's really high. Do

856
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: you think the Raiders can actually surprise some people with

857
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: the signings this offseason? The offense should be much more

858
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: explosive if it is a bust who replaced his car. Well,

859
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: here's what I know about the Raiders. Their offense on

860
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: papers pretty good, you know, Derek has played well in

861
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 1: this league. He's got to play better. If he does

862
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 1: play better, though, they got a chance because their offensive

863
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 1: line is pretty good. Trent Brown's a monster, Rodney Hudson's stud.

864
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: Gabe Jackson's a good player. Richie and Canto is a

865
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 1: nut job, but he's a good player. Colton Miller question mark,

866
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: but he shouldn't be better than he was last year.

867
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: Offensive weapons, you go well. Antonio Brown is a superstar.

868
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: His feet are peeling off right now because I think

869
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 1: he worked too hard. But Antonio Brown's elite. Tyrone Williams

870
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 1: is a really good second receiver, Hunter Renfro, Ryan Grant.

871
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: They got some guys to throw in the slot. They

872
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: drafted some tight ends. They have a first round running

873
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: back in Joshua Jacobs. Yeah, I mean, I think they

874
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: often should be pretty good. Their problem is their defense.

875
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: Their defensive line on paper might be the worst in

876
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: the NFL, and honestly, it might not be that close

877
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: it is. It could be horrendous this year. Their linebackers

878
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: are pretty big question mark two now. Their secondary should

879
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: be solid. Garon Connley is a good player. LaMarcus Joyner

880
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: is a good player. They drafted Jonathan Abram in the

881
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: first round. They you know, they drafted a corner in

882
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 1: the second round from Clemson, So yeah, I mean, I

883
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: think they should be better than some people think. But surprise,

884
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: when you're when you can't rush the pastor at all,

885
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna be in trouble. So that would mean their

886
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 1: offense would have to be a top five or six

887
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: offense in the league for them to be around eight

888
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: and eight. Now, that's a lot of pressure on Derek

889
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: and Gruden. Is there any real reason that as a

890
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: Colts fan I should be concerned about Andrew Luck being

891
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: held out? Are we looking at a Kevin Durant type

892
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: risk I talked about it earlier. Short term, I don't

893
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: think you should be concerned at all. I would just

894
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: say big term, it's just why does he get nicked

895
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: up so much? Some of that it's just a style.

896
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: Because the Kevin Durant thing, I wasn't there at practice.

897
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: I have no one's seen video on Andrew Lux calf injury.

898
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: When Kevin Durant had his calf injury, it sure looked

899
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: like he tores achilles the first time against the Houston

900
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 1: Rockets in the second round. That's why when he came

901
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: back and it ended up tearing his achilles. It was

902
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: almost like he partially tore his achilles the first time

903
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: where Andrew Luck, I I don't. It's just hard to

904
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: it's just so much unknown. I would just be worried

905
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 1: though a big picture like why can't the guy stay healthy?

906
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: I just wanted to see what your thoughts about the

907
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: Cowboys signing Alfred Morris given the timing, right after Jerry

908
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: said they can win rings without Zeke Listen. I think

909
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 1: it's Jerry's gonna want Zeke around. He's one of their

910
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: best players. Jerry drafted him, Jerry likes him. I think

911
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: it's more when a guy is injured or holding out,

912
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 1: you still need to practice. You need players to play

913
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: in preseason games to take practice reps. Well, it's much

914
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: easier once you're a weekend of training camp to sign

915
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: a veteran guy that knows your offense. I e. Alfred Morris,

916
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: who was in this offense a couple of years ago

917
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: when Zeke was suspended, then signed some random undrafted free

918
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: agent off the street. So I wouldn't put that much

919
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: stock into them signing Alfred Morris. More just the simple

920
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: fact you just need bodies now Alfred Morris has proven

921
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: he can function in this league. Uh. Question looks like

922
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: it was cut off there. I don't even know what

923
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: the guy was asking. You talked about Monday about the

924
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: diminishing value of cornerbacks. Would you pay big money for

925
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: a safety like Eddie Jackson. I think safeties are much

926
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 1: more valued than corners, so I'd say yes. Eddie Jackson

927
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 1: is a turnover machine and he plays in the middle

928
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 1: of the field, so I I think he has more

929
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: value than either one of their corners. If you had

930
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: to pick one defensive back on the Bears to keep,

931
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: I don't even think you'd hesitate. You pick Eddie Jackson.

932
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean I I'd have no problem paying

933
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 1: Eddie jack x And if I had to part with one,

934
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 1: I'd say see it a fuller and I'd keep Eddie

935
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: Jackson if it was between one of those two players. Uh.

936
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 1: Thanks for making a few days of sitting around the

937
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: office a lot more enjoyable. It makes a difference. Sincerely,

938
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 1: a sad Riskins fan. Thanks Bro, no question, just you know,

939
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 1: propping up my ego. Hello John. In your latest podcast,

940
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 1: you talk about corners and secondaries not really mattering anymore.

941
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: But why are smart ass teams like the Patriots investing

942
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,240
Speaker 1: so much in Gilmore and nothing into the d line.

943
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: That's a great question, because someone hit me up and

944
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: I took a screenshot because I knew I was gonna

945
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: I wanted to find it. Once we started talking about

946
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: it that the Patriots listen, Belichick's the best in the business.

947
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: But this this uh Porter Collins five DM me and said,

948
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: I want to support your claim with the NFL secondaries

949
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 1: that have been the value. The Saints, Eagles, and Chiefs

950
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: ranked thirty first in total defense in total passing defense

951
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: last year, and the Patriots, despite having a really good

952
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 1: defensive back unit, rank twenty. Now. The Patriots played good

953
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: red zone defense one and for whatever reason, I don't

954
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: understand why Belichick discounts the defensive line so much. I

955
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: I just think the Patriots are somewhat of an outlier.

956
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: They don't build their team normally, and they make up

957
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: for it because Belichick is the greatest coach ever and

958
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's the greatest quarterback ever. But Gilmore is a

959
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: really good player. He's an All Pro level player. He's

960
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: worth the money. Mccordy is really good. Their linebackers are

961
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: a little hit or miss, and their defensive line is

962
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: clearly gonna be worse with Trey Flowers being gone. What

963
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: do you think of Dallas moving off of Doc? I

964
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: can't help but feel he's a slightly better version of Tebow.

965
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: Let me stop you right there. He's much better player

966
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,919
Speaker 1: than Tebow. I've had this idea kind of it's sad.

967
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the type of stuff I think about.

968
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: But why don't the Cowboys do this? Dak Prescott, You're

969
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 1: not getting thirty million dollars a year? What if I

970
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: offered you four years eighty five million dollars, so twenty year,

971
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: twenty one a year. The entire contract is guaranteed, basically

972
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: like Kirk Cousins. Why wouldn't you take that? Especially if

973
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: I go Doc, I'll give you four years eighty five

974
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: million dollars. Every penny is guaranteed like an NBA contract.

975
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: And also you're saving me that twenty plus million dollars overall.

976
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go sign a Marty, and I'm gonna go

977
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 1: sign Zeke and we're gonna show up week one plan

978
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 1: on winning the Super Bowl. How does Dax say no,

979
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: I've talked to before about Edelman and Brady. When you

980
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: win championships, especially with the Dallas Cowboys, you become a legend.

981
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: It's not like eight five million dollars is nothing. I

982
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: get Kirk Cousins makes more per year, but who cares.

983
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: You can become a much bigger deal in the league

984
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 1: than Kirk Cousins and be really rich and get another

985
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: contract in four years. Wanted to get your opinion on

986
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: the Panthers outlook this season. What do you think about

987
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: their past few draft classes and the overall view of

988
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 1: NFL's executives About Marty Herny. I've never asked anyone about

989
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 1: Marty Herny. But Christian McCaffrey. That's a home run. Kids

990
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: an absolute superstar. The wide receiver they drafted last year

991
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: is really good. I have a couple of buddies around

992
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: the league that are really high on DJ Moore. Then

993
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: this year Brian Burns to land that guy in the

994
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 1: late teens. I think that guy is a really good player.

995
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,439
Speaker 1: I think they've hit back to back. Now we don't

996
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: know about Burns, but I'm gonna assume he was a

997
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,959
Speaker 1: hit because I like him and it's my podcast. So

998
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: you got you got some impact players. Now Camp can

999
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: stay healthy and Keithley can stay on the field. I'm

1000
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: getting a lot of pushback, like Middle Coffee, two down

1001
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 1: on the Panthers, two down on the Panthers, and then

1002
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: I watch All or Nothing, and I love Ron Rivera

1003
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 1: and Cam kind of grew on me. I love Luke Keickley,

1004
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: I love Christian McCaffrey, I like Dj Moore. I'm like, yeah, this,

1005
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: maybe the team is not gonna be as bad as

1006
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: I thought. So I'm a little more bullish on the

1007
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 1: Panthers than maybe I was a month ago. I I

1008
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 1: would be. I don't know. Again, I I can't really

1009
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: tell you much about Marty Hernie, but I do like

1010
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: their draft last the last couple of years. Is there

1011
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: a difference for the first round us? I was comparing

1012
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: a JaMarcus Russell to Joey Harrington and David Carr. It

1013
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: seems like players bust for different reasons. Do you see

1014
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: difference and adjust your view to the play of the players. Yeah,

1015
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:17,280
Speaker 1: I would say JaMarcus busted because he was lazy, and

1016
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,760
Speaker 1: a wise coach once told me, you can't. You can't

1017
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: overcome dumb and lazy in this league. You can overcome lazy.

1018
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: If you're really talented, you can overcome dumb if you

1019
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: work really hard. But if you're dumb and you're lazy,

1020
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 1: you will eventually fail. And JaMarcus did not work hard

1021
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: at all. He was much more talented than the other guys.

1022
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 1: I was pretty young for Joey Harrington and David Carr,

1023
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: you know, I was like in high school when they

1024
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 1: got drafted, So it's hard for me to I'd have

1025
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: to go, like study their YouTube pages. You know, Derek

1026
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: or I mean Dave just got destroyed by the defensive line.

1027
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people haven't been at Fresno

1028
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 1: State that say he was really really good in college. Uh.

1029
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: I think most guys in the first round it fail.

1030
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 1: It's either because the organization fails them or they're super

1031
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: lazy and they don't try and slash. They don't love football.

1032
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,399
Speaker 1: And I think when you found out when you hear

1033
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: about Joey Harrington, the not loving football was a big

1034
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 1: something interwoven into the way people described him. Gambling question

1035
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: from a staff metric, what do you think is the

1036
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: best to focus on. I've been looking at scoring, defense,

1037
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: turnover ratio, yards per playing, third down conversion offense defense.

1038
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: Maybe the reason I'm such a shitty gambler is because

1039
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: I'm a gut field guy. I I don't know, I'm

1040
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: the wrong guy to ask on this. I'm more just

1041
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: I like this team, and that's why I lose a

1042
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 1: lot of money. I'm one of the worst gamblers you'll

1043
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 1: ever see, though. I gamble a lot of money now

1044
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 1: by one strategy that my go to strategy that tends

1045
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: to work is bet against the masses. So when the

1046
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: masses are betting on one person, I go the other way.

1047
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: When everyone's hanging the left, always hanging right, and you'll

1048
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: win more than usual. Now that means when everyone's hammering

1049
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: the Patriots or everyone's betting on the Eagles, you gotta

1050
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: take the Jags, or you gotta take the Raiders. But

1051
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: that ship works huge. Jacks fan, what's your take on

1052
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 1: this season? I think they're good shot at the wild

1053
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: card spot and being a sleeper. You know what's funny

1054
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 1: is on my other podcast, we got done recording the

1055
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: other day and I am like, do you know what's

1056
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: crazy is I basically follow every team in the league

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Speaker 1: on Twitter, and I see videos seven from every team

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Speaker 1: in the league. Of highlights, of defensive highlights of press conferences.

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Speaker 1: I swear to God as I record this right now,

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen one highlight or read one comment on

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars. It's almost like on my Twitter feed they

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Speaker 1: do not exist. Now. My guy Flip is there as

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Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator. He's a big fools guy. Their defense

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Speaker 1: has a lot of talent. If Leonard Fournett can kind

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Speaker 1: of get his career back going, Marke's Lee comes back

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Speaker 1: from injury, yeah, I think they could be a really

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Speaker 1: competitive team for sure. I forgot to mention this take

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Speaker 1: is predicated on golden tape miss in the first four

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Speaker 1: games with suspension, something were raced. Whatever your comment was

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Speaker 1: before the race, or I would have read your question

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Speaker 1: what is the chief ceiling? I feel like if Mahomes

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Speaker 1: is still a god and the defense can create pressure

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Speaker 1: of the turnovers, they'd go fifteen and one or sixteen

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Speaker 1: and no. Their offense should be elite. So I don't

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Speaker 1: think their offense should come back to Earth at all.

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Speaker 1: If everyone can stay healthy, I don't see how their

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Speaker 1: defense doesn't improve. Frank Clark is better than the Ford.

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Speaker 1: They still got Chris Jones. They're running a four three defense.

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Speaker 1: Now they add the Honey Badger, which should only help

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Speaker 1: just the defensive backs in the communication. There's no way

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Speaker 1: their defense can be as bad as it was last

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Speaker 1: year in terms of coverage and if their defensive line,

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Speaker 1: they actually might not get the same amount of sacks

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Speaker 1: last year. I think they had fifty two. Let's say

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Speaker 1: they get in the mid forties. But I think their

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Speaker 1: overall defense can be better. That red zone defense can

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Speaker 1: be better. It's really hard in the NFL to go

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Speaker 1: fifteen and one. But if there was one team in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, if you're like Middlecoff, what's the one team

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Speaker 1: in the NFL they go fifteen and one? It would

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Speaker 1: probably be them. Yeah, so I would agree there. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Raiders fan Derek Carrs contract not fully guaranteed two first

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Speaker 1: round picks. Think they go after Clemson quarterback if he

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Speaker 1: comes out. He's only a sophomore. So no. But one

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Speaker 1: story today was the Derek Carr boyt a house right

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Speaker 1: next to John Gruden in Las Vegas. My response was bold,

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Speaker 1: moved Cotton. Uh, they can if they have a bad season,

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Speaker 1: they get out of his contract for basically no dead money.

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Speaker 1: It's risky now, it's never risky to invest in real estate,

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Speaker 1: and when you have as much money as Derek, you

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Speaker 1: can buy houses if you want to buy houses. But

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Speaker 1: for him to be on the Raiders when they moved

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Speaker 1: to Las Vegas, he has to play better because if

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Speaker 1: he plays like he did in two thousand nineteen, he

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Speaker 1: will not be on the team. Outside the box question

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Speaker 1: for the mail back mail bag, why wasn't Tedford a

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Speaker 1: candidate for the Packer's job. He worked with Rogers at

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Speaker 1: Cow and has been great with quarterbacks. He's also done

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Speaker 1: a good job at Freszl State the last couple of years.

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Speaker 1: One thing I had heard Tedford has had a lot

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Speaker 1: of health problems. He's in his sixties. He's just gonna

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Speaker 1: retire at Fresno State. I think his ambition days of

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Speaker 1: like he should have got the USC job, the Packers job,

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Speaker 1: that those days are kind of over because he's kicked

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Speaker 1: ascid Fresden State. They play USC, I think week one,

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Speaker 1: I think they beat him. I think Tedford is just

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Speaker 1: a dramatically better coach than Clay Helton. So I think

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Speaker 1: a lot of it is more based on him just

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Speaker 1: being old. Okay, that's gonna do it for the middlecoff

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Speaker 1: mail bag. If I didn't answer a question, I'll eventually

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Speaker 1: get to it either direct message you were, I'll read

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Speaker 1: it on the next podcast. Seven Nothing Denver. Right now,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go eat dinner. Got the Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: game I tweeted this earlier is much better in theory

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Speaker 1: than it is in reality. We're like, oh, we got

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Speaker 1: football back, and then about two snaps in you realize

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Speaker 1: you're watching Matt Shop throw picks Like this sucks. You

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Speaker 1: know we can I something on Netflix because I'm not

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Speaker 1: watching this. Flacco didn't play. Drew Lock looks terrible. Uh.

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Speaker 1: When I said Drew Lock looks terrible, I've peeked up

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Speaker 1: and watched him throw about two passes. But the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame game one of those games better in theory

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Speaker 1: than it is actually is in reality. Keep hitting me up. Middlecoff.

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Speaker 1: Mail back at John middlecoff Instagram handle same thing as

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Speaker 1: my Twitter handle. Talk to you all later. Enjoy the weekend.