1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Can I am six forty you're listening to the John 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 1: Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio app. We're on the radio 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: from one until four after four o'clock John Cobelt on Demand, 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: John Cobelt's show on Demand to be exact, and that's 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: on the radio app as well iHeart app, so you 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: could listen to whatever you missed. We have George Gascon 7 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: in a primary on March fifth. It's just about two 8 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: months until we can evict him from office. It's a 9 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: primary where he's got I've seen up to eleven competitors. 10 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: One of the one of the best choices. John McKinney, 11 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: a Deputy DA who's running against Gascone. He was in 12 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: the Major Crimes Unit and he prosecuted about forty capital 13 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: murder cases. His record almost perfect for convictions. But then 14 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: Gascone reassigns him to handle misdemeanors in East LA because McKinney, well, 15 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: we'll ask John exactly what it was that he did 16 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: or said that I got Gascone that upset. He's retaliated 17 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: to at least twenty five Deputy das who have filed 18 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: lawsuits in civil court against Gascon, and two of them 19 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: have already goun to trial and he's lost. So we'll 20 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: get to rundown on that coming up now because John 21 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: McKinnie is here ready to go. John, how are you. 22 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 2: Good afternoon, and congratulations on your new show. 23 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: Thank you very much and it's good to have you on. 24 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: And first of all, how's the campaign going for you? Hey? 25 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: The campaign is going great. It's going great. Everything up 26 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 2: to this point has been a prelude to what will 27 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: be a sprint over the next two months. Fundraising is 28 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: going well. I got a good infrastructure, a leadership team 29 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: in place. I'm fired up and ready to go. 30 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: Talk about the retailal that Gascone unleashed against you, your 31 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: personal story here. First of all, talk about your career. 32 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: I mean, that's incredible that you prosecuted forty capital murder 33 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: cases and he relegated you to misdemeanors. I mean that 34 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: alone is enough for his dismissal. 35 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know great, Thank you for the opportunity to 36 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: talk about this. I want to go back even before 37 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: my career, John, I think you know a little bit 38 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 2: about my background. I was born in a low income, 39 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 2: high crime environment. I lost both my parents before I 40 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 2: finished kindergarten. I was raised by my eldest sister, who 41 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 2: raised five children by herself. I grew up during the 42 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: crack cocaine epidemic. I had to navigate some very troubled 43 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 2: streets day in and day out, and I did everything, 44 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: you know, pretty well. You know, I played by the rules. 45 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: I worked hard. I worked myself through college. I managed 46 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: to get into one of the greatest law schools in 47 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 2: the world here at UCLA, and that is quite an 48 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 2: accomplishment coming from where I started. You know, life delped 49 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 2: me a pretty low hand in the beginning, and I 50 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 2: played it. I played it well. I got to this 51 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 2: law school, a great opportunity for a great future. I 52 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 2: decided to go into public service and I started my 53 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 2: professional career with the DA's office, where I've been now 54 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: for over twenty five years. And I started at the bottom. 55 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 2: I started doing misdemeanors. I worked my way to the top. 56 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: And the top in the DA's office, in my point 57 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 2: of view of many others, is the Major Crimes Division. 58 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 2: It's a division that houses one percent of the attorneys 59 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: in the office. We handle the most complex and most 60 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: high profile cases in the DA's system. And I did well, there, 61 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: as you said, over my career, I prosecuted about forty 62 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 2: murder cases involving about fifty plus defendants, convicted everyone. I 63 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 2: had a perfect record in the Major Crimes Division. I 64 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: had just successfully cut at the case involving the death 65 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: of Nipsey Hustle, which was one of the higher profile 66 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: cases in the last ten years, and the thanks I 67 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 2: got for that was to get unceremoniously kicked out of 68 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 2: the unit and put in an assignment here in East 69 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: LA where I supervise young attorneys who are prosecuting misdemeanor cases. 70 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: Yikes, what is it you did that or said that 71 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: upset Gascon? 72 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I had been speaking out against his 73 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 2: policies from the very beginning. But I had been speaking 74 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: out against his policies up to that point for a 75 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 2: couple of years, and he had never taken any action 76 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 2: against me. I think what happened, John, is that once 77 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: I successfully prosecuted the Nipsey Hustle case, I had already 78 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: intimated that I would run for DA I think mister 79 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 2: Gascon got nervous. He realized that I have an incredible 80 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 2: personal profile in a ro markable record as a prosecutor 81 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 2: over twenty five years. I think he understands that if 82 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: I could get my story and my profile out in 83 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 2: front of the public here in Los Angeles County, They're 84 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 2: going to like me. They're going to want me to 85 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 2: be the future leader of the office. And he wanted 86 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 2: to get me off the big stage, you know. He 87 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 2: wanted to get me out of a place where I 88 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 2: was getting attention and put me in a place where 89 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 2: he hoped nobody would hear or see from me. Again. 90 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: That is really dirty, that is I mean, as you 91 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: were going through, first of all the struggles you had 92 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: when you were very young because your family situation, and 93 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: then make it all the way to the Major Crimes Division, 94 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: and then prosecute forty cases, fifty defendants and win every 95 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: single one, and for him to trash that record and 96 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: sendya basically to Siberia is chest. As you were telling 97 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: that story, I mean, I was getting song because your 98 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: story is something that all of a celebrated admired, your 99 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: role model for everybody else, trying to make you out 100 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: of a bad circumstance. And what do you do. You 101 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: put away a lot of bad guys who hurt a 102 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: lot of people, who killed people, and you make day 103 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: to day life better and this is what he does. 104 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta say, John, I was incredibly disappointed and 105 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 2: angry too, not because I got transferred. I was upset 106 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: because of the why you know it was why I 107 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: was being transferred. It was to serve his own political 108 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 2: self interest. The job I have now is a great job. 109 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 2: I've learned a lot as a supervisor here of misdemeanors. 110 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 2: Misdemeanors are very important in the County of Los Angelesy, 111 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 2: and the aggregate affect people a lot more than some 112 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: of the lower level felony cases. But the reason I 113 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 2: wanted to tell the backstory of my life is so 114 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 2: that people can appreciate how hard I did work to 115 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 2: get to the pinnacle of For any criminal trial attorney, 116 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 2: major crimes is the highest level you can go in 117 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 2: the largest prosecuting agency in the United States of America. 118 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 2: So to go from where I started on the day 119 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 2: I was told my dad died to where I got 120 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 2: to in major crimes handling those kinds of cases was 121 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: quite an accomplishment for me, because some people it might 122 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: seem like a small thing, but for me, it took 123 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 2: a lot of work to get there, and then to 124 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 2: have a guy just come along and ball that all 125 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 2: up and toss it to the side, just because he could. 126 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: Infuriate me, just disgraceful. At No, I'm not the only one. 127 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 2: He the only one right, right, And so the public 128 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 2: has to understand that a real leader does not face 129 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 2: twenty five to thirty lawsuits from the people he's supposed 130 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 2: to be leading. A real leader doesn't face a nearly 131 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: ninety eight percent uh plebiscite of of his deputies who 132 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 2: want to see him recalled and replaced. A real leader 133 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 2: doesn't stand against half the cities in Los Angeles County 134 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 2: voting no confidence in his leadership. And that's where we 135 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 2: are with George Gascon and that's why we need to change. 136 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 2: And as you said, we have this, this, you know, 137 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 2: uniquely American opportunity to evict him from office. 138 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: What what when you're you're out campaigning and you're talking 139 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: to normal people, right, what what do you hear from them? 140 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: I imagine that this is an unusually high level of 141 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: interest for this campaign, more so than usual in a 142 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: DA's race, especially a primary. What do you what are 143 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: you hearing from gat? 144 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 2: You know, I'm hearing everything from disappointment to disgust. So 145 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 2: there's a lot of people who are just absolutely disgusted 146 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 2: with him and they're ready to vote for almost anyone else. 147 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 2: And then there are other people who don't feel quite 148 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: that strongly, but they are disappointed and they do recognize 149 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 2: that mistakes were made back in twenty twenty, and they 150 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 2: want to see things going in a new direction. But 151 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 2: it's important to them that it be the right person. 152 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 2: And I believe I'm the right person. I believe I 153 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 2: have the personal background. I have the lived experience of 154 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: growing up in a crime written environment. I understand victimization. 155 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 2: I saw it firsthand. I know what it's like to 156 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 2: have friends who are arrested in charge with crime and 157 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 2: want due process for them. And then you know, I've 158 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 2: had this amazing career here in the DIA's office for 159 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 2: twenty five years with a remarkably spotless record, and I 160 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 2: think that puts me in position to be the next 161 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: District Attorney of Los Angeles County. 162 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: Before you go, what's the most important thing you want 163 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: to accomplish if you win? 164 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 2: I think it's very important to restore trust in the 165 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 2: criminal justice system. I think part of Gascon's design has 166 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 2: been to undermine trust the institution of our courts and 167 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 2: our prosecuting agency. He is the agent of chaos, and 168 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,719 Speaker 2: we've got to start rebuilding that trust. It's going to 169 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 2: take a person of integrity, a person of character, a 170 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 2: person who proved it long before this campaign started, which 171 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 2: I think I've done over the course of my life. 172 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 2: Once we restore trust and get the public on our side, 173 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 2: get the public behind us, and we can make some 174 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 2: of the other changes that are so sorely needed. 175 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: All Right, John, we'll talk with you again. I want 176 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: to get you on in even a longer format, all 177 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: right before the election. 178 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 2: Well, thank you John, John, and thank you for allowing 179 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 2: me to tell a little bit about my story. People 180 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 2: can learn more about me at my website mckenni four 181 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: la dot com. 182 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: Well you're a good man. You talk about integrity and 183 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: ethics and all that. You certainly have that and I 184 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: really wish you a lot of luck. Thank you, John, 185 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 1: I hope you do well. Thanks for coming on. We'll 186 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: talk again soon. All right. That's John McKinney and he 187 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: is running against George Gascone for district attorney. And how 188 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: much how different would the world be if we had 189 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: John McKinney in office the last four years instead of 190 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I had despicable. I'm out of adjectives to 191 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: describe my disgust for George Gascon. This guy, you discipline 192 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: this guy. You heard his story. It's a true story, 193 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: how he had to grow up, what he had to overcome, 194 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: and to fight his way to the top of the 195 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: La County District Attorney's office and major crimes, a perfect record, 196 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: forty cases he won. And you take that knowledge and 197 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: that experience out of the system to prosecute misdemeanors. Because 198 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: McKinney is running for Gascon's office, so petty, so cowardly, 199 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: so wrong. I don't know how anybody listened to John 200 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: McKinney's story could possibly vote for George Gascon. I mean, 201 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: he is such a pet little dictator, just a really small, 202 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 1: petty man. All Right, we come back. I'm going to 203 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: tell you about Gascon's influence on the parole process has 204 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: caused more convicted felons, more convicted violent people to be 205 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: on the streets. Explain how this happens on the John 206 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: Cobelt Show. 207 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 208 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 3: six forty. 209 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: Hold on, I got it this well. Lore Engele coming 210 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: back on the show. She is the national correspondent for 211 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: News Nation. Have you seen News Nation. It's an excellent 212 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: cable news channel. Find News Nation on your cable TV. 213 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: And lour Ingle's there and she is going to tell 214 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: us as to why we haven't seen the Jeffrey Epstein 215 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: documents yet and one hundred and eighty seven names that 216 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: are connected to the case. It's supposed to happen today. 217 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: Something's holding it up. Laura knows sell me on coming 218 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: up after three point thirty. Thomas Buckley did a great 219 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: piece on gascone today in the California Globe dot Com, 220 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: which is a news outlet California Globe dot Com and 221 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: gust goone. He says is known as a decarcerationist. I 222 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: have never heard this word, a decarcerationist. He wants as 223 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: few people in jail as possible. This is a this 224 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: is a progressive philosophy that has taken root among all 225 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: the people that are destroying our country. And you know, 226 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: George Soros funded this idea to get these woke district 227 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: attorneys into office. And Buckley's written a story about this. 228 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: One of the things that Gascone did he ruled that 229 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:58,599 Speaker 1: his staff could not attend parole hearings on behalf of 230 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: the victims because normally when a prisoner is up for parole, 231 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: the victims or the family of the victim can be 232 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: part of the hearing. And he quotes Kathleen Katie, and 233 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: we've had her on the show. She is an advocate 234 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: who works for free on behalf of victims, and Katie said, 235 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: not surprisingly, not having a prosecutor at parole hearings has 236 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: resulted in a higher grant rate of parole. In twenty 237 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: twenty one, the grant rate was thirty one percent when 238 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: a prosecutor went to a parole hearing, but thirty eight 239 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: percent when a prosecutor was absent. In twenty twenty two, 240 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: they granted parole twenty five percent of the time when 241 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: a prosecutor participated, but it was thirty three percent without 242 00:14:51,720 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: a prosecutor. So these inmates, these are inmates serving possibly 243 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: a life sentence, but they're eligible for parole along the way, 244 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: and the victim or the surviving members of the victim 245 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: is not allowed to have a prosecutor there to represent them. 246 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: And so instead of one in four prisoners being released, 247 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: it's one in three. Because a prosecutor means access to 248 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: the prisoner's record while he's in prison. A prosecutor is 249 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: allowed to review an inmate's prison record before the parole hearing, 250 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: and they can share that information with the victim and 251 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: their families. For example, a hearing for an inmate with 252 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: a clean prison record will proceed differently than a problem prisoner. 253 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: But if the victim doesn't have that information, then how 254 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: can they make their case effectively that the guy should 255 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: stay in prison. In This is the trick that Gascone pulled. 256 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: Because you may think, well, why do you have to 257 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: have a prosecutor with you? Do you need your handheld? 258 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: You can go by yourself. No, because the prosecutor would 259 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: bring the prison record with him and a victim or 260 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: family members don't have access to that. If there's no prosecutor, 261 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: there's no information for the victim in their family that 262 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: they could use to make their case to keep the 263 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: inmate in prison. Gascon's assistant Diana Tern, notified the prison 264 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: to stop allowing La County prosecutors to access prison records. 265 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: Gascone's office no longer even provides the parole board with 266 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: a prison packet detailing the facts of the case. Normally, 267 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: the board can look at things like the original police report, 268 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: transcripts of the interviews, case notes before making its decision, 269 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: but this detailed information is not necessarily sent to the 270 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: prison at the time of the incarceration, and if the 271 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: prison doesn't have it, the board will not see it. 272 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 1: And without a prosecuting being involved. Not only does the 273 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: victim and the family have no access to the whole story, 274 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: neither does the parole board. You see how they rig 275 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: the system. They always have a good reason. It's like, well, 276 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, according to our regulations, according to our rule. 277 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:34,959 Speaker 1: Well they rig the rules in the regulation. Apparently. Diana 278 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: Teuran Gasconne's assistant originally said it was a pilot project, 279 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: but this pilot project has been sticking around for several 280 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: years now. And again, the whole point is, and they 281 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: know what they're doing is to send violent criminals, even 282 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: violent criminals subject to life sentences, given parole. Early. It's 283 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 1: not life without role, it's life with parole. So periodically 284 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 1: they come up for a hearing this is this may 285 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: be the worst guy we've ever had in public office 286 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: at any level. I cannot remember ever doing as many 287 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:23,239 Speaker 1: stories as we've done on a single office holder than 288 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: George Gascone. I can't. I mean, we've literally had hundreds 289 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: of stories over the last three years, but the fourth 290 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: year to come all right, we come back. We're going 291 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: to talk with Lora Angele and she's with News Nation. 292 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: News Nation is the hottest newest cable news channel. It's 293 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: a good channel. And she's covering the Jeffrey Epstein case 294 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: in New York. And today was the day they were 295 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 1: supposed to release hundreds of pages of documents with about 296 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: a couple of hundred names of people connected to the case. 297 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: Where we're going to get to see the names of 298 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: some of Epstein's customers. We don't know, but it was 299 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: supposed to be out. It's not been out. And why 300 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: is this? We're gonna have Loringle on coming up next 301 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: on the John Cobelt Show. 302 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 3: You're listening to John cobelts on demand from KFI A 303 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 3: six forty. 304 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 1: On from one until four after four o'clock John Cobelt 305 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: Show on demand on the iHeart app Conway coming up 306 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 1: after four o'clock. Well, you know, I started the show. 307 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 1: I was all excited because it was one o'clock here, 308 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: it was four o'clock on the East coast, and I 309 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: figured within an hour or two we were going to 310 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: get the big document, drop hundreds of pages of Jeffrey 311 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: Epstein court documents. It was going to have a couple 312 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: of one hundred names of people connected to the case. 313 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: Don't know in what capacity, but everybody's excited. Right. There 314 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 1: are rumors that Bill Clinton was mentioned multiple times, and then, 315 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: as often happens, a lot of hype, a big build up, 316 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 1: and nothing. Why is this? Well, we're gonna get lore 317 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: angle on again. She's with News Nation. As I said, 318 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: News Nation is a really good cable news channel. It's 319 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 1: fairly new and you should go find it on your 320 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: cable system and you'll see Laurel. She's their national correspondent 321 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: based in New York and she's covering the Epstein case. Laura, 322 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: how are you? I am good. 323 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 4: We've got to add in the former KFI re porter, right, 324 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 4: that's right. All the years that we've been doing and 325 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 4: I cannot believe this. I cannot believe this is happening 326 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 4: right now. I have been waiting to talk to you. 327 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 4: I have been on the air for two days talking 328 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 4: about the Jeffrey Epstein documents about to be unsealed. We've 329 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 4: been waiting. I was here until midnight last night. They 330 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 4: just came out. So I'm not going to be able 331 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 4: to stay with you because I have to get on TV. 332 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 4: Nine hundred and thirty four pages have just been released 333 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 4: by the Southern District here in New York. This is 334 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 4: I'll give it to you quick. The court released an 335 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 4: order earlier today that the unsealing of the documents and 336 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 4: the records containing names of those who associated with Jeffrey Epstein, 337 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 4: but again who are not criminally charged. 338 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: Here. 339 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 4: We're supposed to come out at some point. 340 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: We've been hitting. 341 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 4: Refresh, refresh, refresh on PACER, which is the court system, 342 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 4: all day long. I literally just walk out of the 343 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 4: newsroom to come and do this hit with you, and 344 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 4: I'm just getting messages right now saying please come back. 345 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 4: It's just been dropped on PACER. So again, the court 346 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 4: is releasing these documents electronically, so now we're about to 347 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 4: dive into them. Here's the question. Who's on the list. 348 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 4: Those who are on the list know that they're on 349 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 4: the list because these are court documents, court records, depositions 350 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 4: that happen for people that were interviewed during the defamation 351 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 4: lawsuit of Epstein's former girlfriend, Jaselle Maxwell. And everybody in 352 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 4: this document knows who they are. A lot of them 353 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 4: do not want their names released. So the District Executive 354 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 4: of this court told us earlier today that some of 355 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 4: these names there are two John Doe and a Jane, 356 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 4: two people listed as number one oh seven and one 357 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 4: ten were granted a special condition that their names would 358 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 4: not be released until January twenty second. The rest of 359 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 4: them just got released. So we're about to dig into it. 360 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 4: I can certainly come back to you when I get 361 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 4: a minute, but I have to go back into the newsroom. 362 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 4: And so we have a plan in place. We've got 363 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 4: a team of people and we're all going to take 364 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 4: a chunk of this. We heard it was going to 365 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 4: be a couple of hundred pages. Now getting the message, 366 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 4: it's nine hundred and thirty four. 367 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: Wow, all right, we'll probably talk to you tomorrow in 368 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: detail about all this. 369 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 4: Yes, but a very big everybody who's you know, all 370 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 4: the talk shows here in New York have been saying, 371 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 4: you know, there's a lot of nervous people over Christmas 372 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 4: in New Year's because a lot of people don't want 373 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 4: their names in it. And here is the day, the 374 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 4: day that people some people have been dreading, is now 375 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 4: here and we are about to see who is on 376 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 4: the list. Remember, these are people who could be associates, 377 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 4: they could be accusers, they could be employees, they could 378 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 4: be people that we've never even thought would have connections 379 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 4: to Jeffrey Epstein. And that's what we're going to find out. 380 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 4: We'll let you know what we get, all. 381 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: Right, Laura, we'll talk with you tomorrow. Thanks, Go do it, 382 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: all right, Laura Angel, formerly of Cathine News now with 383 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,479 Speaker 1: the News Nation cable TV news channel. You should look 384 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: up and watch. Well, you know, while she was talking, 385 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: I was looking at various news sites and nobody has 386 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: any details so yet. As she said, it just came 387 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: over the internal court communications system there and all the 388 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: reporters have to run and now they've got to pour 389 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: through for the nine hundred and thirty four pages. Right, 390 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: that's what you said, And there's at least a couple 391 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: of hundred names. But again, nobody knows whether these are 392 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 1: people who knew Epstein socialized with Epstein worked for Epstein 393 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: some capacity not related to his procuring process. Some of 394 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 1: them will be how many are clients, how many are 395 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: well known clients whose names you'll recognize, how many people 396 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: are going to be jumping off buildings? But you know, 397 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 1: the thing I have seen in common with these stories 398 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: when it involves somebody procuring young women for sex, whether 399 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: it's create like Epstein and Glaine Mock Maxwell or the 400 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: Madams stories that pop up usually in New York or Washington, DC, 401 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: it's always prominent people, maybe not famous people, but prominent 402 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: in their industry. And it's usually people who make a 403 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: lot of money. This is what guys do when they 404 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: have a lot of money and they travel, or they 405 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: have a lot of money and they're not traveling, and 406 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: doesn't matter if they're married, they got to have six 407 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: kids at home. This is what they do. And I 408 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: don't know what's done to keep some people's names out 409 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: of publicity like this. I don't know if they write 410 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: a big check. I don't know if they issue horrible, 411 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: vile threats. But somehow, most of the time, the little 412 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: Black Book never gets revealed. We never find out the 413 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,959 Speaker 1: contents of what's going on. Is this going to be different. 414 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: We don't know to see here, because you're gonna you're 415 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: gonna hear names, but it it may not be that 416 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: the names you hear were actual clients. But if for 417 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: some reason this judge got tired of everything being under 418 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 1: seal and everything being redacted, we will find out coming up, 419 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 1: maybe in a matter of minutes later or later in 420 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 1: the day, or certainly we'll go in depth tomorrow. 421 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 3: All right, you're listening to John Cobelt on demand from 422 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 3: KFI A M six forty, and. 423 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: We just had lower Angle on and we thought, well, 424 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: let me tell you one o'clock. I thought, okay, sometime 425 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: in the next hour, we're gonna have the Jeffrey Epstein document. Dube, 426 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: this is what I'm we're talking about at one o'clock. 427 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,719 Speaker 1: Because two o'clock, end of the business day. I figured 428 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: they promised the release, the judge is ready to go, 429 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: and nothing happens. It's supposed to get hundreds of names 430 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 1: of people connected to the Epstein case. Nothing And it 431 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 1: turned out there were two people who were requesting from 432 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: the judge special protection that they're not going to have 433 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: their names released for a period of time while they 434 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: appeal and one of the women is in a foreign 435 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 1: country and claims she will be in danger if she's 436 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: named in her culturally conservative country. So the judge said, okay, 437 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 1: you got thirty days to appeal, and that would delay 438 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: the release of the name unless she can prove that 439 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: she will be in grave danger if her name is unredacted. 440 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: And there was somebody else with that situation as well, 441 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: and we're talking about one hundred and eighty seven people, right, 442 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,199 Speaker 1: so there's one hundred and eighty five left. But I 443 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: guess that tied things up long enough that they're relie 444 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: So we had lour Angel come on from News Nation 445 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: and right at three thirty five, shoes posted at least well, 446 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,239 Speaker 1: she was going to tell us what the hold up 447 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: was about and what the expectations were, And as she 448 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: came on, she said, they just released the names. They 449 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: just released nine hundred and thirty four pages of these documents. 450 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: And now at Newsdation that staff is going through, and 451 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: I guess all the networks and news sites are going through. 452 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: I was checking all the online sites and nobody even 453 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 1: had the bulletin that the documents had been released when 454 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: I was looking. So that will come out momentarily as 455 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 1: fast as as all these reporters and staffers can make 456 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: their way through nine hundred and thirty four pages. I'm 457 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: just looking here. Yeah, CNN is saying the same thing. 458 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: They're reviewing the documents, hundreds of pages unsealed. They're expecting 459 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 1: almost two hundred names some of his accusers, prominent business people, politicians, 460 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: and more people that work for them. The court order 461 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: was on December eighteenth, and h boy, it must must 462 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: be exciting behind the scenes. We're definitely gonna have war 463 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: on tomorrow or somebody for sure, uh to talk to 464 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: talk about the case, because this could this is going 465 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: to shake up a lot of lives. We think, like 466 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: I said, often, you know, you get this, uh, you 467 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: get all this hype, you get this burst of energy, 468 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 1: all this anticipation, and then poof, something happens. The names 469 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: aren't released because you know, these names are not one 470 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty seven customers. So there's you know, obviously Epstein. 471 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: Epstein cultivated just hundreds and hundreds of acquaintanceships people passed 472 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: through he had. He seemed to have a strange magnetism. 473 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: Although I read a lot of people said that dinner 474 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: with him was kind of boring. It's not like he 475 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: knew a lot of stuff, but he seemed to know 476 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: a lot of people, and he just had this mysterious 477 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: air about him. And I guess the real attraction was 478 00:28:55,800 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: he was providing you know, fresh flesh, young girls, all 479 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: these creepy, weirdo guys. That was the That was the 480 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: beginning and end of the story. So we'll find out 481 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: tomorrow to hear about in San Francisco about this. There's 482 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: a video going around about a guy he's a fentinyl user. 483 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,959 Speaker 1: This speaks to the to the depravity of San Francisco. 484 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I actually have I'm collecting stories on the 485 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: depravity of San Francisco, and I have had a thick 486 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: folder here. This one came out a few days ago. 487 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,239 Speaker 1: Video of a man high and fentanyl thrashing around on 488 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: the ground for two hours. For two hours, people stood 489 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: and watched and took video. Nobody helped him, because what 490 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: are you going to do with him? First of all, 491 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: you don't know what kind of diseases he's got, and 492 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: if he's thrashing, he could be violent, and then where 493 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: would you take him. There's no treatment for people against 494 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: their will. There's not even treatment if they do want 495 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: to get it now. Remember when the California I'm sorry, 496 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: when the Chinese leader, President G came to San Francisco, 497 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: Newsom made sure the city was cleaned up. It was spotless, 498 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: it was ready for like a July fourth parade, squeaky clean, 499 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: to show off to G how great California is. G 500 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: knew better, Newsom knows better. It's all to manipulate the 501 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: television news stories. And of course it works because the 502 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: dumb asses and TV news just generally report what they see. 503 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: They didn't they didn't see the cleanup, so we don't know. 504 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: So you got this guy. Apparently a local journalist got 505 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: the video and he says, these homeless advocates are trying 506 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: to cover up these kind of stories. There is an 507 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: account on x called Dodge Place, Tenderloin, SF. They shared 508 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: the video on that account. The man screamed for two hours. 509 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: He has his pants pulled down to his ankles. And 510 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: I've watched some of this video and it's true. This 511 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: really happened. He is rolling around on the ground, hitting himself, 512 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: moaning incoherently. Although that sounds like meth more than fentinyl, 513 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: because fentanyl puts you in a daze. You know, it's 514 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: a more intense cousin of heroin. And Erica Sandberg is 515 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: a host of San Francisco Beat. She's an independent journalist. 516 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: We've had her on the air. We should get her 517 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: back on the air to talk about this. I realize, 518 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: I realized, I recognize this name. And she says, what 519 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: frustrates the homeless advocates is they can't stop these images 520 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: and videos from going public. How sick and psychotic do 521 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: you have to be to be an advocate for this, 522 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: for this guy suffering from this f fentinal seizure. And 523 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: what is the upside of advocating this? I guess it's 524 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: too so you could continue getting tax funding for your 525 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: stupid fake nonprofit. I mean, that's got to be it. 526 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't be proud of creating a policy 527 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: or enabling a policy that has a man thrashing around 528 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: on the ground for two hours. Erica wrote, what frustrates 529 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: the so called homeless activists They can't stop these images 530 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: and videos from going public. All the threats and shaming 531 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: attempts are feudal. We are going to share what is 532 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: happening to our fellow human beings on the streets, and 533 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: we will identify those responsible because the glow of November 534 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: when they cleaned up the streets for President g is gone. 535 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: That was the Apex summit, and that wrapped up November seventeenth, 536 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: and now, like one one architect was quoted as saying, 537 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: as you walk around here, you have to do the 538 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: poopy dance, always avoiding stepping in bleep. So we got 539 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: we gotta get Erica Sandberg on and talk about this 540 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: Conway is here. 541 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 5: Hey, now, hey, look, we're setting up here for a 542 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 5: beautiful sunset. The sun's gonna be spectacular line because there's 543 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 5: no clouds in the west, but there's clouds over the 544 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 5: valley and then Orange County, so we're setting up for 545 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 5: one of those beautiful early January sunsets. 546 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: So let's get outside the sunsets over the ocean. That's right, 547 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: that's right, I got to see the sunset. Look, no, no, no, 548 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna. 549 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 5: If you live in Orange County or in the valley, 550 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 5: you're gonna see the spectacular arsense. Okay, all right, we 551 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 5: have the other names coming out with Epstein that you know, 552 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 5: hopefully we'll have some of those nas nine hundred plus 553 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 5: pages of documents, man, oh man, and then some of 554 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:09,280 Speaker 5: them have enough power to delay it until the late January. 555 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 5: I don't know what that buys them, but I guess something. 556 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 5: Big Bear Lake is getting its first snowfall of the winter. 557 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 5: That's cool for people like to ski. I don't know 558 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 5: if you're a skier or not. 559 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: Oh I tried, no good. Oh it was horrible. It 560 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,720 Speaker 1: was you know. I had mothers screaming at me. Really, 561 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 1: I lost control and I ended up criss crossing onto 562 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: the bunny hill. Oh no, And mothers were taking their 563 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: little toddlers and swinging them in the air. Wow, because 564 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: I was flying past them, lying flat on my back. Oh. 565 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 1: And oh, was that the time you skied nude? I 566 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: was nude. This is really why they were screened. I 567 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,439 Speaker 1: ended up crashing into a wooden fence. Oh no, no, 568 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: it's true. Where were you Big Bear? 569 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 2: Yeah? 570 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, or maybe mammoth. I don't know, man, you shouldn't 571 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: be No. 572 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 5: Orange County hospitals are busy with an uptick in sick patients. 573 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on there. 574 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 5: And there's a warning issued as rain again brings back 575 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 5: danger to the beaches. After rain, you can't go in 576 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 5: that ocean, man floating duties. 577 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: It's fecal back tome my god, Oh, it's disgust. It's 578 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:15,479 Speaker 1: the worst. 579 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 5: So we're going to get a cold spell tonight, tomorrow, 580 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 5: and Friday. 581 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: It's gonna be cold as hell, all right, Yeah, dig 582 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: dong with you, Conway a weather sunset information. 583 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 5: Yes, John colevelt Show. That bring it on, the Names 584 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 5: of Pedophiles. That's Friday, all. 585 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: Right, Conway. Next, Crozier's got the news live in the 586 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: KFI twenty four hour newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to 587 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: the John Covelt Show podcast. 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