1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,679 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants huts. 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 2: Let's go. Let's go. Giants on My Giants, give me 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 2: some Job, part of the Giants Podcast Network. 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Giants Little Podcast, brought 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: to you by Citizens, the official bank of the New 6 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: York Football Giants. Second time, we're being joined by the 7 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: one and only Matt Simms. He's a quarterback trainer. He's 8 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: on Serious, He's on a podcast with Big Phil, Big 9 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: his dad, Big Phil Simms. 10 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: That's right. 11 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, So first of all, man, before we get going here, 12 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: first of all, good to see you again. You've been 13 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: out of camp a couple of days this summer. Tell 14 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 1: the folks where they can find everything that you're doing. 15 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: Whether you're on Twitter, all that, all that good stuff. 16 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, Twitter, Instagram, the podcast YouTube, wherever you listen to podcasts. 17 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 3: Sims complete, me and Big Phil talking all things ball. 18 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 3: We focus a little bit more, i would say, on 19 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 3: the quarterback position, just given our expertise in our background. 20 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 3: But yeah, my father and I just love the game 21 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 3: so much, and of course we love also just the 22 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 3: friendly banter between father and son talking talking football. 23 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: And yeah, it's been it's been a real honor and 24 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: privilege to do this with him. 25 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,559 Speaker 1: It's been great having your dad back in the building. 26 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: The preseason games. Man, he seems invigor eight. You guys 27 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: get to hang out. He he's watching practice. 28 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: It's fun, it really is. 29 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 3: And I know how excited he is to be back. 30 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 3: And you know, there for a while where he was 31 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 3: with CBS for you know, more than twenty years, it 32 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 3: was you know, I think it was strange for him 33 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 3: to say that he was part of the media, and 34 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 3: he really couldn't necessarily like identify consistently with saying that, 35 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 3: like I'm a Giant, I'm rooting for the Giants, all 36 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 3: those things. But he really does enjoy just being in 37 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 3: the cafeteria talking all the guys, seeing the players, seeing 38 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 3: former players like Howard Cross and Carl Banks and all 39 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 3: them talking with guys like you about the game, about 40 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 3: years past, great storytelling. 41 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 2: And yeah, showed up to do. 42 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 3: The show with Sirius XM with with Bob Papa today 43 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 3: and you know, lo and behold, I walk into the 44 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 3: cafeteria and there there's Big Phil and I'm like, hey, 45 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 3: you know, will he was gonna be here. 46 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: I did not know he was gonna be here today. 47 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: So it was great. 48 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 3: He didn't tell me and I didn't tell him, and yeah, 49 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 3: here we were in the Giants cafeteria hanging out. But yeah, 50 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 3: it really is special and I know he's enjoying every 51 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 3: minute of it. 52 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, you just got off the air with Bob Papa 53 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: doing the serious XM Giants training camp special. They do 54 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: one for every team every year. Just let's start very simple. 55 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: What are your impressions having been around the team for 56 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: a few days now this summer, what have you seen 57 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 1: and what's jumped out of you? 58 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 3: Well, I mean one, just you know, the one hundred 59 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 3: years this is This is a special offseason, a special 60 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 3: season for the New York Giants. It really just kind 61 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 3: of reminds, I think everyone in the NFL too, just 62 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 3: like how special this organization is, right And you know, 63 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 3: of course there's great organizations throughout the NFL and the 64 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 3: Steelers and the Cowboys and all that, but just like, 65 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 3: you know, the Giants have been doing it for such 66 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 3: a long time, you know, the Maras, the Tishes and 67 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 3: what they've done for this league and for everything. It's 68 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 3: just it's so special and for my father to be 69 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 3: a part of that is unbelievable and I think too. 70 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 3: Just you know, hey, season ninety nine didn't go great. 71 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 2: It didn't. 72 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: No, but no it did not. 73 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 3: You know, I think there is that genuine optimist, you know, 74 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 3: approach to this season. You know, I think a lot 75 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 3: of people are excited. The offensive line has improved, a 76 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 3: healthy Daniel Jones. The skill group I think has improved 77 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 3: that much more with a guy like Milik Neighbors now 78 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 3: inserted into the starting lineup, Brian dabad now going back 79 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 3: to being the play caller again on the offense side 80 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 3: of the football. So a lot of things I think 81 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 3: to be excited about for this team and for me 82 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 3: being a fan of the Giants, just really looking forward 83 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 3: to the season. 84 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: Good and you hit all the bullet points and hit 85 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: with you it's just perfect. So I want to focus 86 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball. If you've given 87 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: your quarterback that's. 88 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 2: To do it, let's do it. 89 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: So let's go with DJ. What have you seen from 90 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: him watching him throw the ball moving around? I mean, 91 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: I think if you told people, if you didn't tell 92 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: people rather that he had an ACL last year, people 93 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: would think he's one hundred percent. He you couldn't tell 94 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: by looking at him. But what are your impressions watching 95 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: me again? 96 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think really just it's that the ability to 97 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 3: be super comfortable in the offense, and I think you 98 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 3: really do see that in practice, is that you know, 99 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 3: there is no hesitation with what he sees the as 100 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 3: everyone says on TV, like the footwork and the eyes 101 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 3: are matching each other. And when he hitches, he's turning, 102 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 3: he's throwing in rhythm. The guys are getting out of 103 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 3: the cuts, the ball is exactly where it needs to be. 104 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 3: He's throwing with tremendous power, he's throwing with tremendous anticipation, 105 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 3: and just being a super decisive decision maker right now. 106 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 2: So far, so the. 107 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 3: Past few days that I've seen in practice, I have 108 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 3: not seen any moment where he looked unsure of himself. 109 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: Right. 110 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 3: He looked like he was throwing with great conviction of 111 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 3: the football. And you know, not only that, but just yeah, 112 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 3: looks like he's standing super confident in the pocket, someone 113 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 3: who's coming off of, like you said that acl injury 114 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 3: and even the next things that he's dealt with, you know, 115 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 3: playing extremely big and strong in the pocket, which he 116 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 3: naturally is as a person. And then also too the 117 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 3: pocket itself just looks cleaner. It looks like there's more 118 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 3: of a surface area for him to operate on. And 119 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 3: then you get those tidbits of reminding everybody, the fans 120 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 3: and everyone at home, just like, dude is a phenomenal athlete. 121 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 3: And he took off and ran on two plays in 122 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 3: practice today and one of them probably would have been 123 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 3: a forty five fifty yard touchdown because he took off 124 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 3: and out run everybody on the defense. So just excited 125 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 3: to see a healthy Daniel Jones reinvigorated always. You know, 126 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 3: just can't say enough about the person and how hard 127 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 3: he works. So really excited to see you know, him 128 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 3: put his best best foot forward for the season. 129 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to get say the offensive line in 130 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: the second, but final on DJ physically, I don't think 131 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: fans quite realize how well put together a person. Yeah, 132 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 1: was like, you know, we were joking the cafeteria. You 133 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: guys all call him Big Phil, and you know Phil 134 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: stands next to Carl Banks, and he's like bigger than 135 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: Carl and people don't like just I'm not even like 136 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: bigger like that big like frame wise, He's just a 137 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: humongous person. And you know, DJ I don't think is 138 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: the big film status, but DJ is. 139 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 2: I mean, he's no DJ. 140 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 3: I was saying thirty, Yeah, pretty big DJ six five, 141 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 3: two thirty. I mean I'm six three, two fifteen, And 142 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 3: you know, I just feel like there's a notal subdition 143 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 3: difference between like, you know, my frame and how I 144 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 3: look compared to DJ. You know, he's just he's kind 145 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 3: of got it all, you know, And I think the 146 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 3: exciting thing for me as a fan, you know, is 147 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 3: just knowing that he does have a little bit more 148 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 3: of a supporting cast for himself to really just build 149 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 3: that confidence. 150 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: Like I know, like you laugh a little, right, but 151 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 2: it's just like. 152 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: Well, because this is the conversation we've been having for 153 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: five years. 154 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 3: I know, it takes time, and you know, unfortunately for 155 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 3: Daniel it wasn't necessarily in the time that he probably 156 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 3: would have liked it to be at, you know, like 157 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 3: compared to a lot of other guys that are thrust 158 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 3: in the starting lineup and kind of have that that 159 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 3: room for error. But even Bob Papa made a great 160 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 3: example that I think, you know, is really true. Like 161 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 3: it's kind of like Alex Smith, you know, in San Francisco, 162 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 3: like We knew that he was good, We knew that 163 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 3: he could kind of do it. We just didn't see 164 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 3: enough evidence to prove that. And there also wasn't enough 165 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 3: of a supporting cast or structure around him to support 166 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 3: that either. And it looks like we're we're hopefully kind 167 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 3: of getting on that same track that he experienced in 168 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 3: San Francisco. 169 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, then Alex Smith winds up a with first with 170 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: hardball there, then he winds up with Andy Reid in 171 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: Kansas City. Yeah, the weapons there and everything. 172 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, that ends up having a fifteen year career, and 173 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 3: we think very highly of him and who he is 174 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 3: as a person, in the character that he has as 175 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 3: he was as a football player. 176 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: Absolutely put the fans in the shoes of a quarterback. 177 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: Because I haven't even asked you about protection of the 178 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: offensive line yet you've mentioned I think three times and 179 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: answers about the question. I guess, so, yeah, no nobody, 180 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: it makes sense, right, And this is what I want 181 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: to get to. So how difficult is it for a 182 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: quarterback to be confident in the pocket, to throw in rhythm, 183 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: to always have their eyes down field, to be able 184 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: to make those good decisions when and this might sound strong, 185 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: but if you watch the tape last year, it's hard 186 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: to argue you have zero confidence that your lying can 187 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: give you any level of protection because you have so 188 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: many injuries in front of you. 189 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think you know, Shane, we talked with Shane, 190 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 3: you know, during the interview for a serious XM and 191 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 3: Shan and Joshan excuse me, and he just you know, 192 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 3: he was saying that just the fact that we have 193 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 3: depth in that room now, you know, really adds another 194 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 3: level of just like feeling confident about ourselves. 195 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 2: Knowing that a guy like you know. 196 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 3: Stinny might be the fifth or guy in that offensive line, 197 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 3: Like that's exciting news for us. You know, a luminord 198 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 3: who is you know, really doing a great job at 199 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 3: the tackle position. You know, to know that Evan Neil 200 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 3: now is you know, one of our potentially starters or 201 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 3: backups at the tackle position, like this is great. You know, 202 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 3: these are good things to have because all these guys 203 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 3: are capable and have game experience. And you know, for 204 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 3: the quarterback position, we saw it so much, you know, 205 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 3: just with so many quarterbacks that the the hits that 206 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 3: you take early on in your career, you know, they 207 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 3: really do take a toll on you and mentally physically, 208 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 3: I mean spiritually, however you want to say it. Man, 209 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 3: you know, it just takes away from your confidence to 210 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 3: really play super decisive and just really be convicted in 211 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 3: what you see with every single play that you have 212 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 3: out there. And I think that's where for me, you know, 213 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 3: I get really excited for Daniel Jones, And that's why 214 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 3: I get really excited too, for even the fact that 215 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 3: Daniel has day Balls to play color now too, because 216 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 3: I mean, let's face it, you know, coach day Ball, 217 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 3: he earned this job of being a head coach by 218 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 3: being a great offensive mind and by being a great, 219 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 3: great play caller and a great game manager. And seeing 220 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 3: him back where you know he really belongs, I think 221 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 3: it is very exciting for all of us fans for 222 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 3: this Giant season. 223 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 4: You're ready for a change. Pay Day comes early with citizens, 224 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 4: So go to that retreat, knew you move to the country. 225 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 4: Now you're raising goats and launching a lifestyle brand. Are 226 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 4: you ready for all that life brings? 227 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? 228 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: I want to get to the receivers in a second, 229 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: but let's stay on Dable. Why in your mind, again, 230 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: speaking from a guy that played quarterback. Is he such 231 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: a good play caller? What does he do well that 232 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: helps set up a quarterback for success. 233 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 3: Well, I think one of the things that's really interesting 234 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 3: about him is that he does a great job of 235 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 3: understanding kind of just what it takes to win, right 236 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 3: given the team that he has built. So I mean, 237 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 3: let's just take Buffalo for example. I mean, there he 238 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 3: is in Buffalo with the young quarterback, and everyone's thinking, 239 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 3: let's let's run the football more, let's win it the 240 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 3: line of scrimmage, let's protect the football, let's protect. 241 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 2: Our young quarterback. And what does he do. 242 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 3: He goes bout there and he throws it thirty forty times, 243 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 3: you know, like two or three weeks in a row 244 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 3: with backs first down, third, it didn't matter. We were 245 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 3: throwing it. And and I think it's kind of one 246 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 3: of those things where just like he believed in what 247 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 3: he put in conceptually for his offense for those few 248 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 3: weeks and it was successful and it worked, and it 249 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 3: also helped Josh Allen really build that confidence within himself 250 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 3: to continue to do that and put the team essentially 251 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 3: on his back. So I think, you know, coach day Ball, 252 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 3: just having the understanding of you know, really utilizing what 253 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 3: his players do extremely well, consistently being creative, and then 254 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 3: really honestly just you know, having that ownership. 255 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 2: Of it I think is really important. 256 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 3: You know, instead of being able to say, ah, you 257 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 3: should have called this instead of that. You know, now 258 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 3: it's like, man, you know, yeah, maybe I should have 259 00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 3: called that. But now you're really going to put more 260 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 3: of an f of like feeling super confident, like what 261 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 3: it is that you're doing, what plays you're executing, what 262 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 3: plays that you're installing, to get your guys open each 263 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 3: and every play. 264 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 2: And you know, with the. 265 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 3: Young receiver corps, he's got a lot of work ahead 266 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 3: him obviously to make sure that he's not overwhelming them. 267 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 3: But at the same time, I do have complete faith 268 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 3: that he has the ability to do that and to 269 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 3: really make that bridge that gap between his veteran and 270 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 3: younger players. 271 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: For now, Citizens is proud to bring the Giants one 272 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: hundred season celebration to the Queen's Night Market on Saturday, 273 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: August seventeenth and the Tottenville Staten Island Branch on Monday, 274 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: August nineteenth. I mean, Giants Legends win tickets to the 275 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: home opener and more got the details at citizens bank 276 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: dot com slash giants. So I think it's interesting, Matt. 277 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about what a difference 278 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 1: the play calling park can make, right, because the systems 279 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: the same. It's is the same system that's been in 280 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: the last two years. 281 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 2: It was Dable. 282 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: It was always Dables offense cast offense. He had a 283 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: little wrinkles, like you talked to And this is how 284 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 1: I know because I talked to the guys that got 285 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: it from Buffalo like a year later, and they're like, yeah, 286 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: it's the same, but we definitely see some of the 287 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: rinkles that Kathola brought in. Right, it was always Dable's system. 288 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: What difference can having a different voice maybe in some 289 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: of those offensive meeting rooms, telling the quarterbacks what the 290 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: focus on, combined with maybe the rhythm you call plays, 291 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: the timing and sequencing of your plays. How much of 292 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 1: a difference can that change make even if the base 293 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: offensive system is still the same. 294 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is where every year is different, right, 295 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 3: Every team and its roster is slightly different. So what 296 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 3: you do really will kind of vary on just like 297 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 3: what those individuals do best. Right for you to execute 298 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 3: efficiently consistently, and most offenses, I feel like, really don't 299 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 3: know what their identity is until probably like week five 300 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 3: or six of the NFL season ten and even sometimes 301 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 3: later than that. You know, even the Kansas City Chiefs 302 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 3: is a great example of that, Like they didn't really 303 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 3: know what the hell they were until like week twelve 304 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 3: or thirteen of the season. You know, now they still 305 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 3: won the Super Bowl, but still, like you do have 306 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,599 Speaker 3: to kind of go through those growing pains. And I 307 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 3: think with day Ball being in the room with the quarterbacks, 308 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 3: you know, now it's not like, well, this is what 309 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 3: Cask is saying, and then Dave Ball is kind of 310 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 3: all right throwing his two cents in there to his 311 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 3: offense or to his recipe. Now you really are hearing 312 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 3: it from the chef, like, no, this is how we're 313 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 3: gonna make it. 314 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 2: This is how I want you to execute it. 315 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 3: You know, I know this might be a difficult throw here, 316 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 3: but I'm just telling you have conviction, make the throw, 317 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 3: get it done, you know. 318 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 2: And I think those things. 319 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 3: Are very empowering for football players, right to be able 320 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 3: to say, like there is one voice and one opinion 321 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 3: you have to worry about, and that's the head coach 322 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 3: or our offensive coordinator. He's in the room with me 323 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 3: every single day, and you really do start to build 324 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 3: that connection. I mean, if we spend every day after 325 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 3: practice doing this show, after a year or two, we 326 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 3: would have a great rapport with each other. We would 327 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 3: be able to finish each other's sentences. And that's really 328 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 3: how you have to be when you're a coach quarterback connection. 329 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: All right, Now, let's give to the third part of 330 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: the kind of the supporting cast. We talk about protection, 331 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: We talked about the coaching Yeah, now let's talking about 332 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: the targets stow it. 333 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I mean, let's. 334 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: Be honest, we've talked about the offensive line. But since 335 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones has been here, Darius Slayton's been his number 336 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 1: one wide receiver, right, And I think on most teams 337 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 1: Slayton's a two or three right based on his numbers, 338 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: the type of player that he is, really good player, 339 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: reliable receiver, But he doesn't profile as a traditional number 340 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: one in an offense right league nighbors, on the other hand, yeah, 341 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 1: profiles as a one. So how does that make things 342 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: besides the obvious, how does that make things easier for 343 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: a quarterback? Just even in his decision making process when 344 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: he goes back to the past when you have a 345 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: guy like that that you know, if you're playing man again, 346 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: he's gonna win pretty much every time. 347 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 3: Right, And this just goes back to like even like 348 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 3: the stories that my father would tell me about, you know, 349 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 3: just Mark Bavarro and like his aspect and his impact 350 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 3: on the football team. You know that Parcells would say like, yeah, hey, 351 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 3: I know Bavarro's covered here, but still throw it to 352 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 3: him because he's open even when he's covered. And I 353 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 3: think that's something that should be refreshing for day Ball 354 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 3: and for Daniel Jones too, is that malikue Nambers has 355 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 3: really shown throughout his career at LSU that even when 356 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 3: he is extremely like well covered down the field, if 357 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 3: you give him the opportunity, more than not, he's gonna 358 00:14:58,880 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 3: come down with that. 359 00:14:59,680 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 2: You know. 360 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 3: I mean as far as like catch probability rate. Last 361 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 3: year in college football, as far as contested catches, it 362 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 3: was like Roma Dunsa and then him and then Marvin Harrison, right, 363 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 3: and like it was substantially those three compared to the 364 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 3: rest of the country. So for Daniel Jones, I think 365 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 3: he's gonna have a great time. Like he'll probably throw 366 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 3: one of those passes in the game where it's like 367 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 3: he'll throw and be like, ooh, maybe I shouldn't and 368 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 3: then all beg oh, man, all right, my dude just 369 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 3: caught that really confidently and easily. And you know what, 370 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 3: I can continue to do those things more and more. 371 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 3: And that's where I think players really start to kind of, 372 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 3: you know, kind of fall in love with each other 373 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 3: on the field that way when they have those plays 374 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 3: to build off of it. I think Daniel Jones for 375 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 3: the first time his career. 376 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 2: Has that guy. 377 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 3: And by doing that now you're going to allow other 378 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 3: guys like Slayton and Hyatt to really build into those 379 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 3: other roles and to play those roles extremely well. And 380 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 3: you know, I'm excited even for like today, like at practice, 381 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 3: like I thought THEO Johnson really really impressed me today. 382 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 3: I thought he looked really good. He moves well, he's 383 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 3: got a big frame. You can definitely mix him up 384 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 3: with the formations and the personnel groupings. So for a 385 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 3: young football player, you know, THEO Johnson bleak neighbors. You know, 386 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 3: I think there's some really good pieces to build upon 387 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 3: here for this new York Giants offense. 388 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: Does that make it easier for Dable to game plan too? 389 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: Because eventually, oh, yeah, are going to you know, you 390 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: go into a game, the other team's gonna do the 391 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: old red sharpie on neighbors, right the circle for the 392 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: game plan focused on him. Does that then make it 393 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: easier for Dable to attack that team knowing that they're 394 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: going to be focused on neighbors? 395 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? And you know, and sometimes too, you know, it 396 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 2: goes both. 397 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 3: Ways, right where it's like, all right, let's be creative 398 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 3: to get our guy the ball, of course, and then 399 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 3: there's the times where like it doesn't matter, We're just 400 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 3: gonna give our guy the ball and we're still gonna 401 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 3: get it done, you know. And this is where like 402 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 3: I think Kyle Shanahan really taught me this when we're 403 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 3: in Atlanta with Julio Jones and you see him now 404 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 3: too in San Francisco with Deebo Samuel. Is that, Yeah, 405 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 3: they don't necessarily throw him the traditional like let's get 406 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 3: him open on an incut or this, like, no, let's 407 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 3: give him a reverse, Let's give him a speed reverse. 408 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 3: Let's give him you know, this little trick player this 409 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 3: screen or this and I think those are the plays 410 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 3: that we should see a little bit more of in 411 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 3: this Giants offense that we did not see a year ago, 412 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 3: which allows Leakue Neighbors in this offense to really kind 413 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 3: of spread the field out more than we've ever seen. 414 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: And I think the running game will be fine. I 415 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: know Sakua and Balky is a big loss, but given 416 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: I think your improved protection, teams are gonna have to 417 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 1: keep two safeties deep a lot more with Hyatt and 418 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: Neighbors out there. Then in Singletary is a professional running back. 419 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: And we'll see about the Tyrone Tracy injury. We don't 420 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 1: have any more details in that from today, right. Terrible 421 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: to see, Yeah, But I think the running game for 422 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: a coach that I think, like to your point earlier 423 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: from Buffalo, wants to throw to set up the run, right, 424 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: He's not run this up the pas half a guy, 425 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 1: He's the opposite. I think Sengletary is going to be 426 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: more than fine to run this offense what he wants 427 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: to run it. 428 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think Eric Gray has looked really good, 429 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 3: you know, for the few days that I've been here 430 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 3: at camp, and what I saw in the preseason game too. 431 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 3: He looks like he's playing super confident football. It seems 432 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 3: like he's getting downhill with like simple you know, cuts, 433 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 3: extremely fast, He's low to the ground, he's come pack player. 434 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 2: He does a good job of catching out of the 435 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 2: backfield too. 436 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 3: So I feel like there's enough pieces here for this 437 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 3: offense to really start to you know, create a real identity. 438 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 3: And that really was I think the issue the past 439 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 3: few years is like what was the identity of the offense? 440 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 3: You know, it's like, oh, Saquon Barkley, It's all right, 441 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 3: that's great, But like with the struggling offensive line and 442 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 3: no weapons on the outside and playing from behind all 443 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 3: the time, and playing from behind, it's like, how can 444 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 3: we utilize one of the better running backs in the NFL. So, 445 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 3: you know, hopefully a little bit more dispersed offense, a 446 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 3: little more evenly, you know, distributed football, the protection again. 447 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 3: You know, now we'll see more athleticism out of our quarterback, 448 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 3: which we know that he had has and is capable of. 449 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 3: And I think that's where, you know, there should be 450 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 3: some really big strides for this football team. And really 451 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 3: just the depth at the offensive line position, all the positions, 452 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 3: I think is absolutely huge. 453 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: And veteran depth where you know what you're getting if 454 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: you bring the guys in. 455 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 4: You love turf, you're good at it, so you start 456 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 4: a turf business, grows, your savings grow, become the most 457 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 4: celebrate name in terms, Are you ready for all that 458 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 4: life rings? 459 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: Final two questions realistic expectation you think for this offense 460 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: and this team in general heading into twenty twenty four. 461 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 3: For the offense, I mean, I don't really know how 462 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 3: to like, you know, how to label it, but I mean, hey, 463 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 3: it's it's got to be and it will be better 464 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 3: than it was a year ago. 465 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 2: You know. 466 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 3: As far as the expectations for the football team, me 467 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 3: and Papa were talking about on serious XM just a 468 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 3: moment ago. 469 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 2: But it's just like, you know, what's the over under. 470 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 3: I would say that, like, you know, fans in general, 471 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 3: we'd be thinking eight or nine wins, you know. But 472 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 3: I see this as a team that if we can 473 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 3: get off on a good start and kind of build 474 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 3: that confidence early on in the season and not fall 475 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 3: behind too early, you know, this is a team that 476 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 3: I think really can win nine, ten eleven wins and 477 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 3: kind of do what they did a year ago. 478 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 2: You know two years ago. 479 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 3: Excuse me, and really shock some people, because I wouldn't 480 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 3: be shocked either if like the Cowboys or the Eagles, 481 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 3: you know, didn't necessarily live up to all the expectations 482 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 3: that we have from offseason. So there's something you know, 483 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 3: going on in the division. You know, the Cowboys there 484 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 3: seemed a little distraction. The Eagles, they always got something 485 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 3: going on really recently. So you know, for me, just 486 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 3: again being an optimistic Giants fan, excited for this football 487 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 3: team and really looking forward to the season. 488 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: Final question. We do a ton of draft stuff. Here 489 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: is one of our favorite times years. We did a 490 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 1: lot of these questions about the quarterbacks, right yere right, 491 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: Just curious to see what your expectations are for those 492 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: Gosh what it ended up being five first round quarterbacks? 493 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 2: Right? Yeah? Six? Six? Right? Nix was the six guy. 494 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm trying to remember all the guys had so 495 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: many of them is amazing, though, Yeah, what are your 496 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: kind of expectations for the group And who do you 497 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: think you're you're most excited for in their rookie year? 498 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 3: I mean, definitely Caleb Williams. I thought Caleb Williams. You know, 499 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 3: I haven't been doing this media thing for a very 500 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 3: long time. But just like I was so impressed with 501 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 3: his ability, his command, his his just the easiness in 502 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 3: which he plays such a difficult game, and how powerful 503 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 3: his arm is, how athletic he is, the leadership that 504 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 3: he has in the football fields, He got a football. 505 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: Players like you don't think that people about the accuracy. 506 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 3: No doubt that too, that too, and that's you know, 507 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 3: so he's definitely up there. I was a huge fan 508 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 3: of Michael Pennix as well. I think, you know, the 509 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 3: cool thing is is that for all of us football 510 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 3: fans out there, we saw six guys in their first 511 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 3: preseason action look really really comfortable in the NFL, like 512 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 3: right from the start. 513 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 2: And that's where it's really cool. 514 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 3: Like, these guys got a ton of reps in college, 515 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 3: they played a lot of big games. They essentially had 516 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 3: their franchises on their back even in college. And I 517 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 3: think all the coaches from around the league, whether it 518 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 3: was Denver, you know, in Atlanta, it didn't matter. It 519 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 3: seemed like all of them really did a great job 520 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 3: of preparing these young men to play extremely well in 521 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 3: the first week, and you know, really excited to see 522 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 3: what they do. But yeah, I'm excited to see you know, 523 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 3: Caleb Williams for sure. Jaden Daniels I think will absolutely 524 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 3: thrive in Washington and really, you know, build up that 525 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 3: that organization to where I think we were used to 526 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 3: seeing it and bring some excitement back to the division 527 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 3: with a well rounded quarterback division. 528 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: I know the SIMS crew wasn't guys weren't like members 529 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: of the Drake May fan club. I was a member 530 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: of the I think he's gonna be really good. So 531 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: I'm curious, toy. 532 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 3: I don't know what I wouldn't say that, you know, 533 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 3: But yeah, I think I did have him as like 534 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 3: my fifth ranked quarterback. 535 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: Right, yeah, he was my second. I had him at 536 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: a Daniels, which I know was unpopular. 537 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 3: Well, I just from watching the film, I think Drake 538 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 3: May is capable of being as good, if not better 539 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 3: than any of them in that group. But I still 540 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 3: thought that there was some rawness to the position. 541 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 2: I felt like there was some. 542 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 3: Inconsistencies as far as the way he looked in the pocket, 543 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 3: you know, being set up to throw to the route 544 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 3: that he was looking at. It seemed always to be 545 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 3: a little off at times. 546 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: And his accuracy was scattersh he was off and on 547 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: week to week. 548 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 3: And I think he was on a team too that 549 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 3: like necessarily wasn't like playing for like championships, and they 550 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 3: were kind of just like. 551 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 2: Kind of lent and fly. So I feel like that allowed. 552 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 3: Him to develop like some some bad habits, really some 553 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 3: habits that are not going to fly in the NFL, Like, Oh, 554 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 3: don't worry about that pick, We're gonna throw another. 555 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 2: Three times in this game, you know. So you know, 556 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 2: I think Drake is capable. I do. I believe that. 557 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 3: You know, he's got that competitive spirit. You see that 558 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 3: in him when you when you watch him and hear 559 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 3: him talk and all those things. So for him, the 560 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 3: biggest thing is just there's no rush for him. Learn 561 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 3: from Jacoby Prissett, you know, do your best to absorb 562 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 3: as much as you can from a guy who's really 563 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 3: been through it all in the NFL, and just slowly build. 564 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 2: Into the position. 565 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 3: The worst thing that could happen for him is like 566 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 3: exactly what happened with Zach Willson a year ago. Sit 567 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 3: learn from Aaron Rodgers. Oh, Aaron's hurt a right now, 568 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 3: you gotta be our guy again, you know. So that 569 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 3: really is I think the worst thing that can happen 570 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 3: for him. Get him reps in the preseason, doesn't matter 571 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 3: if they're ugly, learn from him, learn to be a 572 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 3: great pro from Japacoby Presset, and then you know, hopefully 573 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 3: he can become a great franchise quarterback for the Patriots. 574 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: You take your time, especially the situation there with the 575 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: whiteouts and the offensive line is not the best. So 576 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: I don't, yeah, you want. 577 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 2: I mean, they're the same team. 578 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 3: I feel like as the Giants were a year ago 579 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 3: as well, like for this year, just they're trying to 580 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 3: figure out, like what what are we right? And offensive 581 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 3: lines a big problem. They have improved the skill. 582 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 2: Group a little bit. But yeah, well we'll see. It's 583 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 2: going to be an interesting year for sure. 584 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 1: And I love the fact that three of these rookie quarterbacks Daniels, Knicks, 585 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: and Pennix, they're all like twenty four, Like, they're all experienced, 586 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: So you get hopefully some of these guys learn where 587 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 1: you can stay in college an extra couple of years 588 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: become a finished product. Yeah yeah, Like if Daniels comes 589 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: out last year, he's a fifth round pick. 590 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 3: Well, it's just it's crazy too that you know, my 591 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 3: father and I we discussed this multiple times on SIMS 592 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 3: complete Just why is it being more mature and more 593 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 3: experienced in the college game a detriment now all of 594 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 3: a sudden to transitioning to the NFL quarterbacks twenty four 595 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 3: when we just had a quarterback who retired at the 596 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 3: age of forty five, right, you know, and we're going 597 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 3: out of our way even more to protect the quarterback 598 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 3: each and every year. So I'm all for it. They 599 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 3: got a ton of experience, super talented group. Really wish 600 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 3: them the best, you know, even for JJ McCarthy, you know, 601 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 3: coming off this knee injury, now he played great, you know, 602 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 3: Excited to see where he goes. I mean, he's only 603 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 3: twenty one, twenty two years old, so he's experienced and 604 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 3: he's young, so he's kind of got both, you know, 605 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 3: aces up his sleeve. But you know, I think all 606 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 3: these guys really found great homes for themselves, and that's 607 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 3: really the biggest thing. You want to see them at 608 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 3: places that really appreciate their talent and want to help 609 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 3: that talent build into the future. And you know, I 610 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 3: think we're really fortunate as football fans to have this 611 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 3: young class coming. 612 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 1: Up one more time. Tell the folks think you'll find 613 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 1: everything you're doing. 614 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, Sim's complete, available on YouTube wherever podcasts are available. 615 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 3: Me and Big Phil talking all things football, and you know, 616 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 3: him teasing his son about you know, what father sees 617 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 3: their sons about. So I'm sure I do my best, 618 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 3: you know, But he's the Super Bowl MVP. You know, 619 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 3: he's got a lot of leverage on me. You know, 620 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 3: I was just like a back of the Jets, So 621 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 3: I don't really have much, you know, but you know, 622 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 3: my father and I have a great time. 623 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 2: We enjoy the game so much. The game has given 624 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 2: so much to our family. 625 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 3: Extremely grateful for every opportunity and to come to Giants 626 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 3: camp and to see my father there and to see 627 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 3: all the people just kind of, you know, surround them 628 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 3: like it's a campfire and listen to the stories and 629 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 3: everything that that generation went through. It's super special and 630 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 3: again a reminder too of just you know, how special 631 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 3: he was as an individual football player, how special those 632 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 3: teams were in the eighties and nineties, and again just 633 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 3: how special this organization is too. So, you know, extremely 634 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 3: grateful for the opportunity to be a part of of 635 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 3: that story. 636 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: You're going to drag Chris down here at some point 637 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: or is he just going to stay in Yeah? 638 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 3: You know, yeah, I mean Chris, Chris is now, Chris 639 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 3: is the man. I mean the fact that my brother 640 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 3: is one of the better people in the media game 641 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 3: right now for for football and excited. He's got an 642 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 3: opportunity here for for college football this season as well. 643 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 3: So he's doing like the NBC you know, Game Day Show. Yes, 644 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 3: I know that he's got that coming up too. So yeah, 645 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 3: Big Christopher is doing his thing to hopefully fill in 646 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 3: the shoes that Big Phil left form. And uh, you know, 647 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 3: the good thing is is that they know what they're 648 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 3: talking about. They got great experience and they back it 649 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 3: up with facts. So yeah, you know, the Sims family 650 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 3: is doing their thing, and I'm just trying to hold 651 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 3: up my end of the bargain. 652 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: I gave you a chance to take a shot, your brother, 653 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: and you took the high road. 654 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 2: I took the ted Lasso approach. 655 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 3: Yeah you know, so it's all good man, Citizen younger 656 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 3: brothers do. 657 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,479 Speaker 1: That's the Giants Little Podcast, brought to you by Citizens. 658 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: It's proud to bring the Giants one hundred celebration to 659 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: the Queen's Night Market on Saturday, August seventeenth and the 660 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 1: Tottenville Staten Island Branch on Monday, August nineteenth. 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