1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal ull that for me, I'm 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well, 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: for a day? Edo State? Is that? Woo woo? And 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: Dan and Tye welcome back to the solid Parable Boys 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: and girls. My name is ty Hildenbrand, that fine gentleman 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: over there, the one, the only, still, the incomparable Dan Rubinstein, Sir. 8 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 2: Week eight in the books. How you doing, I'm great. 9 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: We're starting with the Mountain West. I have a lot 10 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 2: of thoughts. You have Logan Fife deep dives for everybody, 11 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 2: So I guess let's just start there. Ty tell me 12 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: about what you saw, what you didn't see, what you'd 13 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: like to see, Where the weaknesses are, where the strengths are. 14 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 2: Give me a rundown on Fresno State Football as you 15 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 2: see it at nine to twenty two Central Time. 16 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: This episode, all of our episodes driven by our good 17 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: friends over at Geico. We'd encourage you to go on 18 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: out to Verbullers dot com. Danverballers dot Com, of course, 19 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: is where you get access to many of the bonus 20 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: perks that we offer. All of our diehard, solid verbal listeners, 21 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 1: not the least of which is the rights to vote 22 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 1: in our Verballer Top ten pole, which dropped hot off 23 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: the presses this morning around nine thirty. It is as 24 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: follows one through five, Georgia, Ohio State, Tennessee, Michigan, Clemson. 25 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,839 Speaker 1: Six through ten saw a little bit of upheaval. Alabama 26 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: remains at six, but TCU up to seven, your Oregon 27 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: Ducks up to eight, Olklahoma State dipping its toes back 28 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: in the top ten, as is USC. We saw a 29 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: little bit of movement on the back half that top 30 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: ten pole by virtue of some losses around the world 31 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: of college football that we will dive into here throughout 32 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: the course of the next hour or so. Dan. As 33 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: you know, we agreed at I guess the start of 34 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: our preview show that dropped on Thursday for the general 35 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: public on Wednesday for our Patreon for ballers, that we 36 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 1: were gonna go with snip the Brakes Saturday. Yeah. I 37 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: thought it than other things you can snip Yeah, correct. 38 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: We thought that would be a good moniker for week eight. 39 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: But we got a few tweets from one of our 40 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: most trusted and loyal overballers, Lindsay, who pointed out wisely, 41 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: I thought that this week in retrospect should have been 42 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: sloppy Saturday. 43 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: Sloppy Saturday is not bad. I was also going with 44 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 2: small things Saturday, a little bit of blinkwin eighty two. 45 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: They had a new single. By the way, I believe 46 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 2: not a sponsor could be blinkwin eighty two can absolutely 47 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: sponsor the solid verbal. But in terms of small things done, 48 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: whether it's third down conversions, red zone conversions, making tackles, 49 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 2: taking angles, whatever, those small things are that add up 50 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: to big things, I also saw it as that. But 51 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 2: I was actually really happy with Snip the Break Saturday 52 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: because my team was in a top ten matchup and 53 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 2: decided to go for an on side kick up seventeen ten. 54 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 2: So that worked out really well. Kansas State, and I 55 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 2: know they were dealing with injuries and we'll get there. 56 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 2: Agan Martinez leaves early, but they went pretty conservative after 57 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 2: going up twenty eight to ten, and so they really 58 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 2: pushed down on the breaks at times. Same could be 59 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 2: said for Texas at time like. 60 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: Oh god, Texas. 61 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 2: So there it actually snipped the brakes brought some truth 62 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: to Saturday. So I'm pretty proud of it. I don't 63 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: have do I have the Ferris Bueller. Yeah, so I 64 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 2: have that, And I think a lot of teams could 65 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: have benefited from taking out Cameron's dad's Ferrari with a 66 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 2: ten point lee thirteen point lead kind of thing. 67 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: What about what about Texas A and M Texas A 68 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: and M desperately Anita snipping those offensive breaks before the season. 69 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: The entire college football media establishment, many college football fans, 70 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: many of whom listen to this show. You and I 71 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: are no different from the rest of it. Like we 72 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: were talking about the Aggies as a team that could 73 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: potentially conte for the SEC West, maybe a playoff berth 74 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: maybe a sharp dark horse championship contender. That was the 75 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: level of talent That was at least the narrative. With 76 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: so much steam on the program and the recruiting and 77 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: Jimbo and wow, how might be drive for six territory? 78 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, the Drive for twenty five continues. 79 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: To drive them. We will get to that, We will get. 80 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 2: To sever the ties Saturday for Devin h Chan, find 81 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 2: yourself an offense. It's gonna win with your talents and 82 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 2: the good lords, Yeah, good lord, where do we want 83 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 2: to start? As we dive through and go into all 84 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 2: things we gave. Should we start with your Oregon Ducks. 85 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: Let's do it? 86 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 2: Top ten matchup game day there, fun game. 87 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 1: Fun game, Oregon forty five, UCLA thirty. I watched a 88 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: fair amount of this one. I will turn most of 89 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: this over to you because I know you probably watch 90 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: more intently. Oregon, though, to me, is a fascinating story 91 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: for a multitude of reasons. 92 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe too close, I'm too close. I actually trust 93 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 2: your opinion on this more than mine at this point. 94 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Thank you, Daniel. Yeah, they are fascinating 95 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: for a multitude of reasons, many of which stem from 96 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: the SEC. Right, So, new coach Dan Lanning comes over 97 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: from Georgia, new quarterback who comes up from Auburn. And also, 98 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: I think a season defined probably wrongly by a matchup 99 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: against an SEC team Georgia Bulldogs Week one, in which 100 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: they lost by forty six points. There's a bit of 101 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: mystery that is lost with the team when you instantly 102 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: know what the ceiling isn't when you feel like you 103 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: know how good a team can be right away, or 104 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: at least get that impression from a bad loss. A 105 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: lot of the mystique around where the team goes next 106 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: is gone, but we still have no concept for that 107 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: floor when we define the ceiling so early. And that's 108 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: where we've been with Oregon. That's why no pun intended. 109 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: The Ducks have been flying a little bit under the radar. 110 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: Dan, Yeah, oh absolutely, And this is not a strange 111 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: thing necessarily for Orgon. If you're remember the weird close 112 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 2: loss to Auburn a few years ago with Justin Herbert 113 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 2: and probably the most talented Oregon team of the modern 114 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 2: era on both sides of the ball. If you remember 115 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 2: when USC lost to Alabama fifty two to six, when 116 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 2: they transition the year they transitioned from mac Max Brown 117 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: who started the season to Sam Darnold, they eventually have 118 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 2: a very successful season. If you remember Chip Kelly to 119 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 2: bring this all full circle, his first game as a 120 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 2: head coach for Oregon and the way that they lost 121 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 2: to Boise, we said, oh man, this is too big 122 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 2: a job for Chip Kelly. Mister New Hampshire. Sherry's an 123 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 2: offensive coordinator. You have Legarret Blunt punching Byron Howd. At 124 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 2: the end of the game, they go to the rose ball. 125 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 2: They lose Ohio State, but they managed to get it together. 126 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: So in the PAC twelve, this has happened. I'm sure 127 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: it's happened all over the Sport Ohio State loses to 128 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 2: Virginia Tech if you remember the way that they did 129 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 2: way back when, and then they go on to I 130 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 2: think that was the year they went to the and 131 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 2: won the national championship over Oregon in twenty fourteen. I 132 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 2: could very well be getting my years mixed up, but 133 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 2: you're right. When we know what that ceiling isn't it 134 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 2: changes the shade of things. And we saw Oregon score 135 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 2: three points on an enormous stage in front of millions 136 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 2: upon millions of people, and we said, ooh, this is 137 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 2: gonna be an adjustment year for Dan Lanning and Kenny 138 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 2: Dillingham and this Oregon staff. And it turns out the 139 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 2: PAC twelve has needed to adjust to Oregon, not vice 140 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 2: versa since that game. 141 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: I think all of that's right. And also when you 142 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: define a team by its week one game, as we 143 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: often say, the most improvement takes place between week one 144 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: and week two. And one of the narratives that I 145 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: want to try and highlights we go through week eight 146 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: because we saw it from a couple teams not just Oregon. 147 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: There is real proof here that these teams are getting better. 148 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: And I think that's where I come down on the 149 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: Oregon Ducks. A showing like this had been building. Pay 150 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: no attention to this final score, thinking that it was 151 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: some kind of shootout. This was a beatdown. This is 152 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: a full fledged beatdown. This was Boonix having all data 153 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: throw it to whomever he wanted. This was Bucky Irving, 154 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: This was Noel Whittington. These guys in the ground getting 155 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: the job done. This was Troy Franklin having a big 156 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: day through the air. UCLA, I think is clearly a 157 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: good team. Zach Charbonay dtr both improved from last season, 158 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: both awesome players in their own right. Oregon was very, 159 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: very physical, and that physical nature with which they won 160 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: this game, I think is the most important takeaway for 161 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: me as we try to project this team forward, because 162 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: I think it bodes well for the Ducks. I do 163 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: think we could be in a scenario a couple weeks 164 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: down the line where we got a bunch of one 165 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: loss teams order the losses on a peg board, which 166 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: is best, which is worse. Look, I know that the 167 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 1: forty six point deficit against George is not going to 168 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: necessarily win over any hearts or minds. But I just 169 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: feel like this team is in a much much different 170 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: place now midway through the season than they were back then. Okay, 171 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: I think all of that is correct. 172 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 2: I think as it relates to this specific performance, the 173 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 2: strongest thing in this game was probably Oregon's offensive line. 174 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 2: The way they pushed around a decent UCLA front on 175 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 2: the ground protected boon Knicks for the most part, and 176 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 2: even when guys kind of got loose, bon Nicks was 177 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 2: able to evade and make plays. I thought bo Nix 178 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 2: was sensational. He's probably now, given this performance and given 179 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 2: DTR's performance, he's probably at the moment the best. I mean, 180 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 2: Caleb Williams is also in that conversation, but in terms 181 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 2: of high level results and getting it done and winning 182 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: and making winning plays, he is in that conversation for 183 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 2: the best quarterback in the Pac twelve. He is in 184 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 2: the conversation four Is he in the grouping of the 185 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 2: best quarterbacks in the nation. It's a very strange point 186 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 2: to make for me, considering all of the games of 187 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 2: bon Nix's I've watched in the past. But we will 188 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 2: see how he finishes out the year. The Utah's defense 189 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 2: is coming to Autsen and I still think they're pretty 190 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 2: strong despite what USC's offense was able to do against them. 191 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 2: And we'll see if Oregon ends up in the Pac 192 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 2: twelve championship game. But the strides he's taken against worse 193 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 2: defenses but with a better offensive line and better talent 194 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: around him over all on offense and a better coaching staff, 195 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 2: to me, has been crazy impressive. Troy Franklin is a 196 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 2: true number one receiver. The tight ends block really well. 197 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 2: The defense I think is still a question, but the 198 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 2: secondary came to play. They just had more guys. We say, 199 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 2: we use the phrasing doode alert. Oregon just has more 200 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 2: dudes across the board than UCLA and pretty much against 201 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: everybody they will play this year because USC's front seven 202 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 2: doesn't really have the number now, UCLA was able to 203 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 2: take advantage of Oregon's linebackers at times. Zach Charboney will 204 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 2: beat basically any linebacker to an edge this season that 205 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 2: UCLA will play, and basically any linebacker in the country. 206 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: He is that good. 207 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 2: And I thought dtr was fine, but you can't beat 208 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 2: Oregon with field goals and an inability to throw the 209 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 2: ball downfield Ian Oughts and against that crowd with the 210 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 2: type of juice that you know a game day Saturday 211 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 2: brings so crazy impressive. I think Oregon's probably one of 212 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 2: the best six or seven teams in the country. If 213 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 2: they had a pass rush, if they were deeper and 214 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 2: more talented in the back half of their defense, at 215 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 2: linebacker and in the secondary, I'd feel especially juiced about 216 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 2: them as a playoff caliber team. I don't think they're 217 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 2: fully there yet. They're not a complete enough team that 218 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: changes the complexion of a Georgia matchup, that has a 219 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 2: chance against Ohio State. The way they're operating on both 220 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 2: sides of the ball this year, that you know against 221 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 2: a fully healthy Alabama, they're not of that caliber. 222 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: But they're on that. 223 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 2: Next tier with teams like TCU, with games like ok 224 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 2: It's fascinating to me. So didn't see this coming. Crazy impressed. 225 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Oregon offensive line dan the only thing in 226 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: this game more aggressive than the tie worn by Dave Passion. 227 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw it. It was rough. 228 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: Moving on, let's go to what I thought was the 229 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: best game of the early slate. Clemson twenty seven, Syracuse 230 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: twenty one True to form. Clemson started slowly. This comes 231 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: as no great surprise. We talked about it on our 232 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: Thursday preview. They've done it all season long. They did 233 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 1: it in this one. They were down twenty one to 234 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: ten after three quarters before they poured on seventeen points 235 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 1: and want it in the fourth quarter. This was quasi 236 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: a clunker, quasi just playing against a good team. But 237 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: Clemson did have three turnovers. They needed to overcome those 238 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: in order to get the W. The big story coming 239 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: out of this game is I think the quarterback spot 240 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: for Clemson. Dabos Sweeney made the move to Kate Klubnick 241 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: Dan welcome to the club level. Yeah, look at him 242 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: hand it off now, seating all rows here in the 243 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: club level. Kate Clubnick came in for Dju, who had 244 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 1: three turnovers, including two picks. He looked a little green. 245 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,599 Speaker 1: I thought he showed some of the promise, some of 246 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: the obvious flashes that make idiots like me so excited 247 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: about him. There was that one two point conversion he 248 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 1: kind of ran around in the pocket and hit a 249 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: guy in the back of the end zone. Yeah, he's clear, 250 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: he's clearly got the arm. He can throw darts and 251 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: there's a lot to be optimistic about there. Dju Notre 252 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: Dame quarterback twenty twenty three. Not the worst thing in 253 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: the world for me. But you'll take anybody at this point. 254 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 1: We will take anybody. Yeah, a couple things I think 255 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: are true at once. Hey, Syracuse a good team. Yes, 256 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: we agree on this. Yes, they're pretty good. 257 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 2: I think there are definitely good facets, and if you 258 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 2: have good facets, you can win a bunch of games. 259 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: Yes, a good team. They ran out of gas. They 260 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: they ran out of gas down the stretch. Eventually, Clemson 261 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: just was able to assert its will and as Syracuse 262 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 1: ran out of gas, they just had no momentum. Secondly, 263 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: good win for Clemson. Definitely not the cleanest sure, nice 264 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: effort from Will Shipley. He had that big long run. 265 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: I think it was a fifty yard touchdown run that 266 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 1: changed the momentum in a big way late in this game. 267 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 1: So ultimately Syracuse covers the thirteen and a half or 268 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: fourteen points that you and I were both in on 269 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,719 Speaker 1: before this game. Syracuse had a chance to win it. 270 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: They're probably kicking themselves because they could have. But again, 271 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: Clemson does this thing where it starts slowly, it finds 272 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 1: away through the second half to play more of its game. 273 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: By hooker, by crook. They get the job done here 274 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: twenty seven to twenty one. So nice win for the Tigers. 275 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 2: So few things that I think you didn't gloss over, 276 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 2: but I think that should be spotlighted. 277 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: In this game. 278 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 2: Syracuse scores fourteen offensive points. They have the ninety yard 279 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 2: scoop and score. DJ has three turnovers, two pretty ugly interceptions, 280 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 2: one of which was kind of a floaty Knuckley interception 281 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 2: up the left sideline. So he gets replaced and I 282 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 2: get it, But now it's going to be where's his 283 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 2: head at if he's still the starter. How much do 284 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 2: they trust Kate Klubnick in the passing game as a 285 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 2: true freshman. A passing game that has been very much 286 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 2: up and down against the better teams on their schedule, 287 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 2: looked terrific against Wake Forest less terrific against Syracuse. Syracuse 288 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 2: defense did plenty to win this game for the Orange. 289 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 2: There were the penalties in the second half. There were 290 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 2: penalties that really killed Syracuse's chances in this game. Because 291 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: if you're turning first and ten into first and twenty years, 292 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 2: second and three in a second and eight against a 293 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 2: very good team or a good team on the road 294 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 2: and a difficult place to play, it makes it nearly impossible. 295 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 2: Clemson took away Ohronda Gadsden. Okay, that's their right. That 296 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 2: was a good move because he's the clear number one. 297 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 2: He's the clear best receiver for Syracuse. Where's the Shantucker package? 298 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 2: Shan Tucker had how many carries in this game? Ten carries? 299 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 2: Five like he did not? He had the terrific catch 300 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 2: on the wheel route ish, you know, out of the 301 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 2: backfield against kJ Henry for a touchdown early? Where is 302 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 2: the package for Shan Tucker? Where is the package for 303 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 2: other receivers? Where is the Plan B or Plan C 304 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 2: for the Syracuse offense? Because in that second half, I 305 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 2: think anybody who watched this game who wanted even Syracuse 306 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 2: to be competitive was yelling at their TV all right, 307 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 2: what else is there Syracuse? Like Garrett Trader's a playmaker's 308 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 2: he's iffy at times, but there had to have been 309 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 2: And again I criticized this for Penn State sometimes, Sure, 310 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,359 Speaker 2: where's excelsior? Where is excelsior for Syracuse? 311 00:15:59,480 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: With this? 312 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 2: Okay, they've taken away this clear number one. What is next? 313 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 2: What are we doing to push the perimeter? What are 314 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 2: we doing? Are we doing a tempo thing? Are we 315 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 2: what are we doing? Are we going to the screen game? 316 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 2: Syracuse had no answer at that point, And you credit 317 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 2: Clemson because they were able to play bully ball with 318 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 2: MafA and Will Shipley and did what was needed to 319 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 2: win this game and make the adjustments at halftime on defense. 320 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 2: But I came away equally impressed with Clemson and just 321 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 2: be fuddled by Syracuse's lack of something else. Yeah, the 322 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: second pitch. We talk about it a lot. What is 323 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 2: your second pitch? It wasn't apparent for Syracuse. It also 324 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 2: wasn't apparent for some other teams. We'll get to that 325 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 2: here momentarily. On the quarterback side for Clemson, Dabos Sweeney 326 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 2: did say after the game, DJ use our quarterback. DJ's 327 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 2: our quarterback. We'll see how long that lasts. We'll see, 328 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 2: like you said, where it's his head at. We'll see 329 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: how quick the hook is next time. 330 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: Yep, we find ourselves in a situation like this, if 331 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: it will be for good to go to Kate Klebnick again, 332 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: He looked fine. He wasn't Trevor Lawrence. There were definite 333 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: signs in his game that he was a little sen 334 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: two for four. 335 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 2: He didn't do anything through the air beyond not make mistakes. 336 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: Right, So we'll see. I don't know. Dju as of now, 337 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: still the quarterback at Clemson as they get a important 338 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: home win. You know, like I said, not the cleanest, 339 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: not the cleanest on either side of this one. No 340 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: better to be eight and zer than seven and one, 341 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: that's correct. Let's talk about the TCU win. Oh my god, 342 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 1: what a weird, crazy, fun game. TCU wins by ten 343 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: thirty eight to twenty eight over Case State. Adrian Martinez 344 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: renaissance Man left the game with an unspecified injury after 345 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: the first Kansas State possession. Bummer didn't come back in. 346 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: He was kind of jogging on the sidelines for a moment. 347 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: It looked like he might, but he'd just I don't 348 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: know what was wrong, no idea. 349 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 2: I think it's leg He kind of was favoring. There 350 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 2: was no side line reporter, by the way in this one. 351 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw that. So there were 352 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 2: the details were non existent. 353 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: We had nothing. We had nothing. Will Howard got the 354 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: ball for the balance of the evening, though he was 355 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: knocked around as well. We got to see Jake Rubley 356 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: come in and throw a pick for KSE State. Despite 357 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: all of that, k State was up twenty eight to 358 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: ten after a quarter and a half and then just 359 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: hit a frickin' wall. Man, They hit a wall. TCU 360 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: scored twenty eight unanswered and ended up winning this thing 361 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: going away the second straight week for TCU. I want 362 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: to focus on TCU for a second where they rally 363 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: from behind, they beat a ranked opponent. It's their fourth 364 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: consecutive win over a ranked opponent this season. The three 365 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: headed monster of Max dug In, of Kendre Miller, Quintin Johnston. Again, 366 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: they step up in primetime to get the job done. 367 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: Max dug It in particular, is really having a great 368 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: season now under Sunny Dykes nineteen to one touchdown to 369 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: interception ratio. He's running the football the way he always has, 370 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: but he's doing so in a martyr fashion, picking his 371 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: spots more than he did under the previous offense. There 372 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: is a conversation to be had in you and I 373 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 1: had it this morning on Slack with respect to TCU, 374 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 1: going twelve to zero. Sure we can have that discussion, 375 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: but we need to talk about k State first and 376 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,719 Speaker 1: the way that this game went for them. Let's you 377 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: tweeted their I guess he didn't tweet. You sent me 378 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: a message at some point saying it's just really embarrassing 379 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: to be losing to a Will Howard led Kansas State team. Now, 380 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: in retrospect, they didn't lose, but they were losing for 381 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: a hot minute. 382 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 2: I was going to say, as it turns out, though, 383 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 2: Will Howard was really good. Well, this was not this 384 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 2: was not your father's Will Howard, because it feels like 385 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 2: he's been the backup quarterback in Manhattan, Kansas for quite 386 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 2: some time. As it turns out, he was not the problem. 387 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 2: He made plays and was very good. 388 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 1: I want the rest of your case date thoughts, because 389 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: there was a groan when I introduced this game. 390 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, no wild game. Kse State goes up super impressive 391 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 2: with Will Howard. He's making plays with his legs, he's 392 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 2: making plays with his arms. The receivers are doing well. 393 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 2: Duce Vaun is getting loose, like you could even hear 394 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 2: because the game was it was in Fort Worth? 395 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 1: Was it not correct? 396 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 2: You could hear on longer deuce Vaughn plays that k 397 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 2: State traveled well enough that you heard the due coming 398 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 2: in from the the other purple team and am In 399 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 2: g Carter. So k State, by and large, in that 400 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 2: first half did plenty to pace themselves to win this game, 401 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 2: even with Will Howard. I think the defense made plays. 402 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 2: They were confusing Max Duggan enough, they were staying in 403 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 2: front of the TCU offense enough. But they go up 404 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 2: twenty eight to ten and things slow down, and I. 405 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: Look at that. 406 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 2: I think they had fourth and two from the TCU. 407 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 2: Maybe it was in the third quarter, fourth and two 408 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 2: from the TCU twenty six. I think it was at 409 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 2: that point that Will Howard got hurt on that drive 410 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 2: and they made the decision to kick it, and I 411 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 2: think they missed that kick. 412 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 3: Yep. 413 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 2: And the same thing applies for UCLA and Oregon. You're 414 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 2: not winning an otsin against this Oregon offense with field goals. 415 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 2: You are not beating this year's iteration of the Frogs 416 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 2: with field goals in the red zone. Ish on fourth 417 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 2: and short. I don't care if it's obvious that you're 418 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 2: giving a deduce bond. I don't care if it's obvious 419 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 2: that you're going for it and maybe running it, whatever 420 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 2: the case is. You have to be prepared in those 421 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 2: situations to put your foot on the accelerator and keep going. 422 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 2: And so when you've slowed things down, and again it 423 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 2: might have been a Jake Rubley moment. They might not 424 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 2: have trusted him on fourth and two, and that kind 425 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 2: of high leverage situation totally understandable. But it's those tiny 426 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 2: moments which are turned out to be huge that affect 427 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 2: winning and losing, and so to me, that gives TCU confidence. 428 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 2: You know, the misfield goal, they get the stop, there's 429 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 2: juice in the stadium, and then you're finding Quinn Johnston 430 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 2: and then Max Duggan's extending plays and then they're find 431 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 2: you know, Kendre Miller is getting loose, and like TCU, 432 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 2: clearly the better team. It'd been nice to see them 433 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 2: win this game against a healthy Asia Martinez just to 434 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 2: sort of get a gauge for where the Frogs are 435 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 2: at and coming back. But that to me was the 436 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 2: disappointing thing that Kansas State had enough to win this game, 437 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 2: and the guttier team, the team willing to adjust and 438 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 2: take chances and be more aggressive. Was the team that's undefeated, 439 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 2: and there's a reason for that. So the way it goes. 440 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: So look TCU right now is seven or zero. They 441 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: have five remaining games. Here's what they've got. Okay, at 442 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: West Virginia home against Texas Tech, back to back road 443 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 1: games at Texas Cinett, Baylor, and then they close out 444 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: the year coming back home against Iowa State. Am I 445 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: crazy for saying it's completely plausible and or doable that 446 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: TCU could finish twelve to zero. 447 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 2: No, you're not crazy. There are those there's a reason 448 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 2: they went down the way they went down. That they're 449 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 2: not a perfect team. They're not a perfect team. You're 450 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 2: not crazy. And also you use the term conversation and 451 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 2: I sort of mentioned it with bo Nix in the 452 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 2: conversation about his place in the quarterback groupings across the country. 453 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 2: Max Dodugan the best Big twelve quarterback. I mean, the 454 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 2: best of Dylan Gabriel is very impressive. The best of 455 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 2: Blake Shape and is very impressive. The best of Quin 456 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 2: Yours when he's not throwing three interceptions on the road 457 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 2: is quite impressive. But the best of is not. How 458 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 2: we determine a conversation like this and where it goes. 459 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 2: Max Duggan has been essentially bulletproof for an undefeated Top 460 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 2: ten team with a first. 461 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: Year coach nineteen to one touchdown to interception ratio. Yeah, 462 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: he's been really good. He's been really good. So look, 463 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: I'm not getting back together with TCU, not now, not ever. 464 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: But but I mean, that would be the time they 465 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: lost all the weight. They have a glow to that. No, no, no, no, 466 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: this is doing pilates. The second I go public with this, 467 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: that's the second they lose, and I don't want to jinx. 468 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: It had a lot of TCU people saying, Hey, what's 469 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 1: going on with you? 470 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 4: My god? 471 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 2: No, so are you meeting TCU at an airport courtyard 472 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 2: by Marriott? Is that what you're telling me on the 473 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 2: sly we're negotiating? Yeah, okay, I still don't fully trust 474 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 2: a complete tcu'd like to go twelve and zero? Is 475 00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 2: it indicates something special at every point of the field, 476 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 2: at every point of the game, You're gonna need luck 477 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 2: to go twelve and zero at a certain point. Maybe 478 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 2: that yesterday was that, Maybe the Oklahoma State game was that. 479 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 2: I don't know, but I don't see them as a team, 480 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 2: as a bulletproof team. 481 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: You mentioned the Oklahoma State Texas gametover. Can you say 482 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 1: seven wins? There we go. We brought it back from 483 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: the dead. Dan, whenever you do a show as long 484 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: as we have, Yeah, the good news is that you 485 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 1: have Sarktober on the board whenever you need it. 486 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 2: By the way, can we just take a step back 487 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 2: and appreciate the Bunkers TV that The Big Twelve has 488 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 2: been this year. 489 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: It's awesome, awesome TV show. Yeah. 490 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 2: I almost want to binge the rest of this season, 491 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 2: Like I want to wait until January and see don't 492 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 2: tell me anything. 493 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: Don't tell me anything. I want to watch it all 494 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: this weekend, but alas I will not. It's been a 495 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: great TV show. There is so much parody from top 496 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: to bottom, and this game I thought illustrated that as well. 497 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: This game in particular Oklahoma State Texas and awesome fourth quarter. 498 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: It was a sloppy game, especially on the Texas side, 499 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: which we can talk about, but Oklahoma States Storms back 500 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: scored fourteen unanswered to win it. Defense gave up some 501 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 1: big plays earlier on, but stepped up. They held the 502 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: Horns to just three points after halftime. The game winner 503 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: you sent the screen grab to me this morning was 504 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: a forty one yard catch but basically more of a 505 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: run in bad tackling. Bryce and Green for Oklahoma State 506 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: got credit for the touchdown, but he did break a 507 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: Texas tackle. It was a very poor attempt at a tackle. 508 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: Oh God, I think it was DeShawn Jamison. Yeah, yep. 509 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 1: That made the score forty one to thirty four with 510 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: about three minutes left. Quinn Ewers, for his part, had 511 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: two more chances to win the game, but was not 512 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: able to get the job done. Not entirely his fault, 513 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 1: but certainly not his best game. He had a very 514 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: Spencer Sanders z line. Yeah, nineteen of forty nine for 515 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: three to nineteen, the two touchdowns, the three interceptions. There 516 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: was one instance in particular where we had Xavier Worthy 517 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: with about five minutes left in the end zone, wide open, 518 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: and I don't know what happened. He just Xavier Worthy 519 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: was like he got his legs crossed up. He's a 520 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: little too far away from it. He couldn't come down 521 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: with it, but he was open. It was a good 522 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 1: throw from Quinn. But moments like that are what plagued 523 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: Texas in this football game. The big takeaway for me 524 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,199 Speaker 1: was this, Outside of the fact that this was an 525 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: impressive win for Oklahoma State, the way they came back, 526 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: the way they won this game, I thought they showed 527 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: a lot of fight. I want to give them credit 528 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 1: where it's due. My thought on Texas is where would 529 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: Texas be without Jean Robinson? 530 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 2: Totally and even to a lesser excent Roshan Johnson, You're right. 531 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: Where would Texas be without Jean Robinson? Would they be 532 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: two to three games worse? I think it's possible. Totally. 533 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 1: I think I think it's possible. Bijon again in this 534 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 1: game one for a touchdown on the ground, he had 535 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: a long forty one yard touchdown catch. You mentioned Roshan Johnson. 536 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: He was the other guy in this game for Texas 537 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: who had a big play fifty two yard touchdown run 538 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 1: earlier one. This was not a game of There's not 539 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: a game devoid of big plays one way or the other. 540 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: But it was the Pokes being able to clamp down 541 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 1: in the second half that got them this big home win. 542 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 1: And I think, honestly, coming out of this I ask 543 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: a lot of questions about Texas. Now it's a lot 544 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: of the same that we've been discussing a lot of 545 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: the stuff that has gotten stuck in our craw about 546 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:25,239 Speaker 1: the tackling and the bits and pieces on offense that 547 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: feel unfinished. Outside of Bejean Robinson, it is very much 548 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: still a team in transition, and the Texas's back stuff 549 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 1: is going to have to wait, if not one week, 550 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 1: definitely another year or two. Yeah. 551 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 2: So Texas blows what a fourteen point lead? Yeah, blow 552 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 2: a double digit lead in the second half. Sark is 553 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 2: now one in six. I believe on the road in 554 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 2: true road games. So taking away the Red River matchups 555 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 2: against Oklahoma, it's not great. And look, did they deserve 556 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 2: to be favorites. I think we both liked Oklahoma State 557 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 2: plus points in this matchup, right, you took that in 558 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 2: time versus the world on our Yeah? So or no, 559 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 2: maybe you didn't. I think the world took Oklahoma State. Sorry, 560 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 2: you took it on our show. I took it on 561 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 2: our show. Yeah, we both liked it. Yeah, windy day, 562 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 2: weird day. This was where the small things come into play. 563 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 2: I think the Texas safeties leave a lot to be desired. 564 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 2: You saw Oklahoma State picking on the middle of the 565 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 2: field at times. The tackling was not that good. I mean, 566 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 2: I think the Texas defense in general, I mean, they 567 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 2: got pushed around up front and they are they're just 568 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 2: they're starting behind the eight ball because of the liabilities 569 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 2: on defense at times and Quinn Yours making some questionable 570 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 2: throws and I yeah, like I was trying to think 571 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 2: while watching this game, like who would be the best 572 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 2: beneficiary to be Jean Robinson being able to transfer tonight 573 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 2: and play tomorrow. It might be LSU That was my 574 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 2: initial thought, like who is like that stud all purpose 575 00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 2: guy away? Because you're right, if not for bjeon those 576 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 2: big plays. I mean, the adjustments from Oklahoma State in 577 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 2: the second half were pretty marvelous from Derek Mason in 578 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 2: this defense. They got off the field pretty quickly and 579 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 2: were able to keep the Texas offense by and large 580 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 2: in front of them. But no, it was it was 581 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 2: pretty disappointing because you want to see that back and forth. 582 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 2: You want to see Texas swinging back with a haymaker 583 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 2: after you know, fading down the stretch and is like, oh, 584 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 2: they still have a little bit left, Queen yours. It 585 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 2: still has a little bit of that moxie magic, yep, 586 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 2: but Oklahoma State too much. A beat up Oklahoma State team, 587 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 2: by the way, and everyone with injury beat up with injuries. 588 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 2: But you know, Stefan Johnson, the freshman wide receiver. 589 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: Came to play. I think they call him Boogie Boogie Johnson. 590 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: At one point in Oregon commit. 591 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 2: No good teams find ways, and that's what Oklahoma State 592 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 2: is and that's what Texas isn't. 593 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: Very quickly, let's just round out the other two games 594 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: of the Big twelve and then move over to the 595 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: SEC because there's a lot to talk about in the SEC. 596 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: Baylor knocked off Kansas, jumped out to an early twenty 597 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: eight three lead. Kansas came out after half, rattled off 598 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 1: twenty points. They were down five with about six and 599 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: a half left. I thought they had the cover, but 600 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: big time effort from our guy. Richard Reeze, the freshman 601 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: thirty one carries one hundred and eighty six yards. He touchdowns. 602 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: He had a two yard score with about two and 603 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: a half left to seal the game and the m 604 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: front door cover. Sorry sorry, yeah. Blake Shapen was back 605 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: for this one after leaving what in the third quarter 606 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: last week, and he took that shot to the head. 607 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: He wasn't great. Two picks in a fumble, costly turnovers here, 608 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: but whatever, nice win here for Baylor. Kansas still in 609 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: search of that sixth win, yep. And to close out 610 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: the Big twelve we had Texas Tech wins forty eight 611 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: to ten over West Virginia by thirty eight. Freshman Baron Morton, Yeah, 612 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: had himself a game. Pretty Much every offensive player for 613 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: Texas Tech had a game. 614 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 2: I actually came away more impressed with the defense, right, 615 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,479 Speaker 2: defensive gooders defense turning over West Virginia getting the stops 616 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 2: the way that they did. 617 00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: I think that was this. 618 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 2: I mean, anytime Texas Tech plays a really good defensive game, 619 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 2: we have to shine the brightest slide on that. We 620 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 2: don't get to do that all that often and haven't 621 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 2: been able to this past decade or so. As far 622 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 2: as the Kansas game, it's a small thing Saturday for meech. 623 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 2: Kansas comes out, they immediately go three and out, and 624 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 2: then and give up a touchdown, and then our nick 625 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 2: on their next drive fumble it away immediately and give 626 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 2: Baylor a short field. It's fourteen to nothing the blink 627 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 2: of an eye. This was actually like a weird sensation 628 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 2: across the sport that it was like, oh my god, 629 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 2: I just tuned in. There's twelve minutes left in the 630 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 2: first quarter and it's twenty one nothing. What you look 631 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 2: at Wisconsin, you look at Indiana whatever. From that point on, 632 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 2: Kansas won the game, right, they got it too. I 633 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 2: think twenty eight to twenty three. You mentioned the Richard 634 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 2: Reese front or cover whoever's coaching the running backs in Waco, 635 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 2: whoever's coaching the offensive line, between what they did last 636 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 2: year with Abram Smith, what they've done this year and 637 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 2: helping to develop Reese doing a great job because Baylor's 638 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 2: finding ways as good teams do. I think there's still 639 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 2: sort of a tick off from where they were last 640 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 2: year for sure, But you know, Kevin Holmes developing, Richard 641 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 2: Reyes developing, and the best of Blake shape and has 642 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 2: been pretty good. So good win for Baylor in a 643 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 2: very losable spot. 644 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: Speaking of good wins and losable spots, let's talk about LSU. 645 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: You need to have the LSU conversation, man, Yeah, need 646 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: to have the LSU conversation. LSU won by twenty five 647 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: over Old Miss forty five to twenty Ole Miss jumped 648 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: out to a seventeen to three lead early in the 649 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: second quarter. I'm watching this game, I'm thinking, man, this 650 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: thing's freaking over. I took Old Miss. I had Ole 651 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: Miss plus one and a half. I think whatever the 652 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: line closed out whatever I may have locked up Ole Miss. Yeah, 653 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: LSU from that point forward took control. Whatever momentum Old 654 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: Miss had in the first quarter went gone, completely gone. 655 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: It swung hard in the direction of the Tigers and 656 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: especially Jane Daniels. Dan again, just a monster freaking show 657 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: for this kid. Monster showing for Jade Daniels. The Tigers 658 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: from that point forward went on a forty two to 659 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: three run. Five of those scores were touchdowns due to 660 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: either the arm or legs of one Jayden and Daniels, 661 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: who is basically unstoppable for most of this football game. 662 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: In the end, LSU ends up cruising to victory. We 663 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: talk about the Old Miss rushing attack a lot, at 664 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: least I did. That was one of the reasons that 665 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: I cited for wanting to pick Ale Miss in this 666 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: football game. Had a lot of faith in it. My 667 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: question all along has been what happens if the rushing 668 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: game doesn't work? What happened. What happens if it doesn't 669 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,719 Speaker 1: In it, we got a little bit of a glimpse 670 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: into that it didn't really work. It was fine, but 671 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: it didn't really work the way it's been working. More 672 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: was asked of Jackson Dart. I don't think he was bad, 673 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,479 Speaker 1: but he was really up against it because what LSU 674 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: did is they brought the heat. They brought the heat, 675 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: especially in the second half. He had guys draped all 676 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: over him every snap. It was like a freaking jail break. 677 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: So it was I thought a really balanced, a really 678 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: awesome showing for LSU, the way they rallied from that 679 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: early deficit and was able to take this game in 680 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: hand and just dominate. This was a dominant showing against 681 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: a top ten team. And now we got to start 682 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: having that conversation about LSU, like another conversation. Sure, LSU 683 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: goes into a bye week. What are they got? Two losses? 684 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,399 Speaker 1: Now five and two? They go into a bye week, 685 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: They've got Bama first week of November at games at home. 686 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: By the way, m H a lot more interesting now. 687 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: Dan totally feels like Jane Daniels is getting better, feels 688 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: like LSU is getting better. LSU's four and one conference. 689 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: They're tied atop the SEC West. I don't know what 690 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: the ceiling is for this team. I guess I thought 691 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: I knew after the Florida State loss, but maybe not. 692 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: Maybe they're getting better and it feels like suddenly this 693 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,240 Speaker 1: is a team that has a lot in front of them. 694 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,439 Speaker 1: I would not want to sleep on LC at this point. 695 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: I would not want to take this team for granted, 696 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: because it feels to me like everything is trending in 697 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 1: a really really positive direction. Nice little second chance Saturday 698 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 1: for transfer quarterbacks all over the globe, right between bow 699 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: Nicks and Jayden Daniels. 700 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 2: I'm sure I'm forgetting a ton of guys, but like 701 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 2: across the board, it felt like a really nice day. 702 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 2: I mean, transferring is just a reality of the sport. 703 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 2: So you speak about poof in disappearance, right, poof, pool 704 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 2: goes old miss poof, There goes the lead, poof, there 705 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 2: goes tis statement preseason that Brian Kelly's gonna have quarterback 706 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 2: issues and no decision making issues on his hands. 707 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 1: It turns out has not happened at all, has not 708 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: happened at all. Even he can't screw this one up, 709 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:50,320 Speaker 1: he cannot poof. 710 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 2: There goes Ti saying good luck with Brian Kelly. 711 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: Good luck after week one, you look like a genius. 712 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 1: I am not a genius. Don't convince yourself that I am. 713 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 1: I know not. 714 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, LSU figures out very basic special teams maneuvers against 715 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 2: Florida State. We're having a very different conversation about LSU. Also, 716 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 2: I think it adds to the conversation about Tennessee's excellence 717 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 2: in the way that they were able to manhandle LSU. 718 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 2: It's becoming less of a slight against the Tigers and 719 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 2: more of a compliment about what Tennessee's ceiling on offense. 720 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,959 Speaker 2: That game was a complete game for Tennessee. But yeah, 721 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 2: that affects how, you know, the lens through which we 722 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 2: look at Tennessee, even alongside what they did against Alabama. 723 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 2: So yeah, LSU is dangerous. Jayden Daniels especially, what I 724 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 2: think is a more and more freed feeling from Jaden Daniels. 725 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 2: You know, he's running the ball, he's throwing the ball, 726 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 2: he's spreading the ball around to various receivers. It's not 727 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 2: just you know the Molik Neighbors Keyshan buttet Show. It's 728 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 2: all these guys, and then on defense with some of 729 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,839 Speaker 2: the young guys that are coming in. By the way, 730 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 2: speaking of conversations that need to be had, whatever the 731 00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 2: hell the ceiling of Harold Perkins. Is LSU defense good? 732 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 2: I don't know he's so good. Harry Perky is going 733 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 2: to be ridiculous. I thought the game plan, the adjustments 734 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,399 Speaker 2: in the second half, just say, Okay, whatever happens, it's 735 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,800 Speaker 2: gonna because Jackson Dart is excellent, and that's what LSU forced. 736 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 2: They were not going to get beat by Judkins. Zach 737 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,359 Speaker 2: Evans is out, and you know, he tried to play, 738 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 2: he tried to warm up. It wasn't happening for him. 739 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 2: So LSU is evolving into an excellent wild card. I 740 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 2: don't think they're a complete team. I don't think they're 741 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 2: a fully realized team. But they have a dependable playmaking quarterback, 742 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,800 Speaker 2: an improving defense, and. 743 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,760 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to say it for you, really good coach, 744 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 1: so dangerous. 745 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 2: I think there's still, you know, a step behind Alabama 746 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 2: if Alabama's fully healthy. But I still don't love the 747 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 2: Alabama offensive line, and you know, the the modes that 748 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 2: Alabama's offense goes into at times but LSU, man, even 749 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 2: if losing to Alabama like thing ten. 750 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,399 Speaker 1: And three with a bowl win. Right, Well, here's what's 751 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: interesting about that Bama game, and specifically with LSU the 752 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 1: rest of the way in baton rouge in ruge, the 753 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: remainder of LSU schedule in November outside of that Bama game, 754 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 1: which you know usually first weekend in November at Arkansas 755 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,280 Speaker 1: home against UAB at Texas A and M. This version 756 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 1: of LLC that we saw yesterday beats Arkansas, UA, B 757 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 1: and A and M. No problem. Yeah, this version of 758 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 1: this team not to say you get them, because like 759 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: you said, they're not a fully realized product, and I 760 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: agree with that. 761 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,240 Speaker 2: And by the way, never look overlook Arkansas against LSU. 762 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, but the version of ls that we saw against 763 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 1: Ole Miss beats all three of those teams. Sure. Also 764 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,280 Speaker 1: with respect to that Bama GA, I do think it's interesting. 765 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 1: I do think it's more interesting before this week, before 766 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 1: this week, before this win, that game between Alabama and LSU, 767 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 1: if you would have played it yesterday, the point spread 768 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: would have been somewhere around nine or ten points. Mm hmm. 769 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 1: With this win, that line's coming down. Man, they not 770 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: be surprised if Bama on the road is something like 771 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 1: a seven, seven and a half point favorite, Like, I 772 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: don't know, it's got a Tennessee feel to it with 773 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 1: respect to the point spread, because LSU is getting better, 774 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 1: and I think Vegas will take notice. Just saying, keep 775 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 1: your eye the thing two weeks from now, the thing. 776 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 2: Big picture, I know we have to move on. There's 777 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 2: a lot of games. The thing that worries me about 778 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 2: LSU is the way they started the Auburn game, the 779 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 2: way they started this game, the way they started the 780 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,320 Speaker 2: Tennessee game, that like they need to take a punch 781 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 2: in order to wake up and sort of taste their 782 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 2: own blood. All find him good against what we now 783 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 2: probably perceived to be an overrated Old Miss team. But 784 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 2: if Bryce Young, a healthy Bryce Young, which I'm not 785 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 2: so sure he's still I don't think he is at 786 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 2: this moment. But if he is in a couple of weeks, 787 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 2: a healthy Bryce Young or a healthy whoever in a 788 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 2: big Bowl game, a healthy kJ Jefferson and Arkansas, if 789 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 2: that's where he's going to be physically, if they go 790 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 2: up twenty to three, it might be a little bit 791 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,320 Speaker 2: different than Ole Miss going up seventeen to three or whatever. 792 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 2: So that's what I'd be worried about, the slow starts 793 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,800 Speaker 2: and the like. Holy hell, it's the end of the 794 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 2: first quarter and we're already down blobberdy blad to blohbdy bah. 795 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 2: That's the worry at this point. But it's first year 796 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 2: Brian Kelly and he's winning, so all good things. Well, 797 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 2: since you mentioned tasting your own blood, we're just stocked 798 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 2: in malone in this show, man, you're you're setting me 799 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:35,800 Speaker 2: up with these sound effects. Pros Alabama thirty, Mississippi State six. 800 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 2: Mike leached now oh and three against Nick Saban, losing 801 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 2: by a combined score of one hundred and twenty to fifteen. 802 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 1: I did the math. Yeah, we said this on the 803 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 1: preview show. It should have come as no surprise if 804 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 1: you watch this one. I watched a little, not that much. 805 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 1: If you're going to beat Bama, the way to beat 806 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 1: them is not with this formula that Mike leechaz the 807 00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: short underneath underneath passing passing stuff, excuse me, and the 808 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 1: receivers in space hoping that they run is not going 809 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 1: to beat Bama. Because Bama was a very good tackling team. 810 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 1: The way you beat Bama is through the air. The 811 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 1: bombs that we saw Tennessee throw a week ago. That 812 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 1: is the formula. This was not the formula. This was 813 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 1: not the formula. So game was never close. Bama led 814 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 1: thirty to nil at one point in the fourth quarter. 815 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 1: I guess they didn't run the ball particularly well. We 816 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 1: could talk about that if we want to, but they 817 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 1: didn't have to. Had just twenty nine yards in the ground. 818 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,360 Speaker 1: I thought the most important takeaway from this other than 819 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: the win, other than the fact that Bryce Young again 820 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 1: looked sensational. Only three penalties in this game for Alabama, 821 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:48,399 Speaker 1: only three penalties big spot needed to come back, needed 822 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 1: to answer only three penalties. Penalties have plagued them all 823 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 1: season long. To have only three in a game like this, 824 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 1: I thought was a really big deal. It helped them 825 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 1: turn this into a runaway train. So Bama now goes 826 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,879 Speaker 1: into their bye week. As we mentioned a moment ago, 827 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 1: they've got that big road trip to Baton Rouge first 828 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 1: week in November. Again, that game should be a lot 829 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: of fun. We'll talk about that in due time. But 830 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 1: just a runaway train here. I don't know how else 831 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 1: to characterize it. Alabama destroyed Mississippi State. 832 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, a nice showing from the DB's who struggled. Eli 833 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 2: Rick's got a lot more time in this game. Obviously 834 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 2: nobody really tests kool aid McKinstry all that much, but 835 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 2: a really nice showing to keep everything in front of them, 836 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 2: to run with the Mississippi State receivers. It was all 837 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,240 Speaker 2: Alabama's defense to me, because you're right, I think Alabama's offense, 838 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 2: like Bryce Young was kind of off. He made plays, 839 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 2: he bought times, he impressive play. 840 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 1: He is still sensationally, he's still very, very good. And yeah, 841 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 1: I stand by what I said a week ago as 842 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 1: a fan of an NFL team, The New York Giants 843 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 1: definitely need a quarterback. I'd kill for Bryce Young. I 844 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,760 Speaker 1: think Bryce Young is just ridiculous. 845 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,720 Speaker 2: He's also like he didn't he left a game injured 846 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 2: and he didn't start the next week and just because 847 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 2: he's playing, and this is again this is true of everybody, 848 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 2: Like it's not an either or you're not just injured 849 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,719 Speaker 2: or healthy. Like I think we're seeing the shades that 850 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:09,240 Speaker 2: he just seems off. And I'm sure credit Mississippi State's defense. 851 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 2: They have guys, they have a good coordinator. I'm a 852 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 2: believer in Mississippi State's defense for stretches, but also this 853 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 2: isn't Mississippi State's offense to bomb it downfield like Tennessee. Now, 854 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 2: I know you don't mean it like this. You don't 855 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:23,840 Speaker 2: mean it like this when you talk about a formula. 856 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 2: There are like three and a half people in America 857 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 2: who can do what Hendon Hooker can do. One of 858 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,360 Speaker 2: those humans is not Will Rogers. This offense is built 859 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 2: around picking on DB's who struggle to tackle in the 860 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 2: open field. They would do great against Texas, Oklahoma right 861 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,319 Speaker 2: running against Oklahoma, right against Texas. They would do great 862 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 2: against ninety six percent of teams in the country who 863 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,759 Speaker 2: don't have the dbs, who don't have the speed at 864 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 2: linebacker and the coverage ability at linebacker. And this is 865 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 2: why Mike Leach teams struggle against excellent teams. And this 866 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,240 Speaker 2: is why Mississippi State has struggled against excellent SEC teams 867 00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,919 Speaker 2: by and large. And so I saw after the game 868 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 2: he was Somebody asked him, like, what went wrong? Why 869 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 2: didn't you know what was the difficulty in figure on Alabama? 870 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,320 Speaker 2: And he said, our guys are scared of Alabama. Jerseys 871 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,799 Speaker 2: get out of here, mister charming. Everybody loves Mike Leach 872 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,839 Speaker 2: throwing his players on, like, come on, so stupid. They 873 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 2: just got beat up Alabama really nice bounce back netcrack 874 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,920 Speaker 2: win favored by a ton I think barely covered. I 875 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,720 Speaker 2: don't know if you saw Nick Saban get super pissed 876 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 2: at the end for allowing that touchdown, not because of wagering, 877 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,240 Speaker 2: but just because that's who he is. On a small 878 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 2: thing Saturday. But the spread was something like what twenty 879 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 2: one and a half twenty one. 880 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 1: And a half points? 881 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they win by twenty three twenty four points 882 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 2: nenty four yep. Yeah, so they cover a big spread 883 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 2: and a nice neck crack situation for the Tide. 884 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,400 Speaker 1: Staying in the SEC, we got to have the Texas 885 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,799 Speaker 1: A and M conversation. Now, Texas A and M went 886 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 1: in the road and lost to South Carolina thirty two 887 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 1: to twenty four. I have thoughts on A and M. 888 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 1: We will get to those momentarily. Yeah, I don't want 889 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 1: to overshadow what was a really big home win for 890 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 1: South Carolina. They were a feel good story a year ago. 891 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 1: They brought in some reinforcements in the off season going 892 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,840 Speaker 1: into this game. Bill Connolly, our good friend from ESPN 893 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,879 Speaker 1: dot com, purveyor of one sp plus metrics system, had 894 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 1: them as the thirty third best team in the country, 895 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 1: which is definitely a step up from where they've been. Obviously, 896 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 1: the game Cocks have a ways to go on the 897 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 1: talent side, but compared to where they were two years ago, 898 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 1: I mean, wow, they started hot. They returned the opening 899 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 1: kick one hundred yards and then rode on the back 900 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:37,080 Speaker 1: of Marshaun Lloyd who were two touchdown. Yeah, two touchdowns. 901 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:39,920 Speaker 1: That being said, the pig stories A and M, right, 902 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,439 Speaker 1: I mean, do we really need to play the Drive 903 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 1: for six game with Texas A and M? Now, Dan, probably, 904 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,439 Speaker 1: are you kidding me that we were playing a Drive 905 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:49,320 Speaker 1: for six game. 906 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,799 Speaker 2: Essentially a regular year as a Drive for eight and 907 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,360 Speaker 2: so they're down a quarterback, they can't figure out an offense. 908 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 2: So it all kind of makes sense if you, I mean, 909 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,279 Speaker 2: if you get rid of talent level and you get 910 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,439 Speaker 2: rid of recruiting or whatever, this all sort of makes 911 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,239 Speaker 2: sense for texts A and M with where they've been 912 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 2: under Jimbo. 913 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:07,439 Speaker 1: Except for the. 914 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 2: Finished number five in the country year, which was a 915 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 2: very good year in the COVID year South Carolina. At 916 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 2: the onset you mentioned one hundred yard kickoff return, they 917 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 2: get a short field immediately I think off of a fumble. 918 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 2: They get another short field and punch it in, so 919 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,759 Speaker 2: they're up seventeen to three. Almost immediately. It felt like 920 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,640 Speaker 2: a game in which they could lose. I think it 921 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,840 Speaker 2: was twenty four to seventeen at a certain point. A 922 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,280 Speaker 2: and M because of Devin a Chain largely Evan Stewart 923 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 2: largely are able to crawl back into this one. But 924 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 2: you're right, it's marshaon Lloyd. It's Spencer Rattler being efficient, 925 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 2: not great, but efficient, not throwing any picks against what 926 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 2: is still probably pretty decent texts A and M defense 927 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,880 Speaker 2: and not being rattled no pun intended in front of 928 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 2: a great home crowd. There was something about this. This 929 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,919 Speaker 2: game was not a headline national game. This game had 930 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 2: the feel of like number five versus number seven. So 931 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 2: shout out to Columbia South Carolina for the juice involved 932 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 2: in this one, because they really brought it. As you know, 933 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 2: Cole Kublick and Jordan Rodgers, you see them wolfing down Sode. 934 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,399 Speaker 2: I guess from the fair of the South Carolina State fair. Yeah, 935 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:19,319 Speaker 2: awesome win South Carolina very quietly winning games, and I 936 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 2: don't think they're going to present themselves to be a 937 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:25,719 Speaker 2: danger to Georgia and in Tennessee in the short term 938 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 2: for winning the East. But man, they're gonna win a 939 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:30,839 Speaker 2: bunch of games to go to a bunch of Bowl 940 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,719 Speaker 2: games under Shane Biemer. If this keeps up, if they 941 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 2: can find a quarterback of the future who comes through, 942 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, game Cocks seemed to be heading 943 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 2: in the in the right direction. 944 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 1: Devin A Chaine, Evan Stewart obviously the bright spots for 945 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,320 Speaker 1: A and M. What we didn't mention is that Heans 946 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 1: King was nicked up, had a shoulder thing. We got 947 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 1: to see contract Wegman. Yeah, the freshman in this game. 948 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,239 Speaker 1: He didn't really look ready. From what I saw, he 949 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,840 Speaker 1: looked very green. The notable stat and you're going to 950 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,279 Speaker 1: read this about a thousand times over between now and 951 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:03,880 Speaker 1: next week. This is from ESPN Stats and Info. Texas 952 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,040 Speaker 1: A and M's offense has scored less than twenty five 953 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,640 Speaker 1: points in nine straight games versus FBS opponents. The only 954 00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,799 Speaker 1: teams with longer active streaks are Colorado one Ruckers. 955 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 2: I was gonna say lots of good teams never scored 956 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:17,280 Speaker 2: five point. 957 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:22,280 Speaker 1: Colorado and Rutgers. It is getting late early for Jimbo Fisher. 958 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:26,719 Speaker 1: I cannot possibly imagine what the conversation is going to 959 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:31,000 Speaker 1: look like two weeks from now. Yep, yep, but right, 960 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 1: go up, buckle up, let's round out the SEC. Tennessee 961 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:38,200 Speaker 1: one big over. Ut Martin scored their most points in 962 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:42,480 Speaker 1: sixty five points since the year two thousand and then 963 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:46,239 Speaker 1: we have Miszoo knocking off Vandy by a seventeen to 964 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:50,400 Speaker 1: fourteen score. Any quick ten second thoughts on those two games, Dan. 965 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,520 Speaker 2: Unreal Vanderbilt play for one of their time. Actually both 966 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,560 Speaker 2: were like crazy unexpected plays a long run and also 967 00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,040 Speaker 2: i'd alwaysxcuse me a long pass. And also Vandy kind 968 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 2: of had like their own of our leap for a 969 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,520 Speaker 2: fumble scoop and we're all in one sort of move, 970 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,120 Speaker 2: So good for Vanny in a losing effort. 971 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:08,200 Speaker 1: I guess uh. 972 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:12,360 Speaker 2: Miszoo wore the ugliest shade of yellow known to the sports. Sorry, 973 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,360 Speaker 2: it's very bad. It is baby puke yellow, and I 974 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 2: hope for Maszoo's sake they can update shades of their 975 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,200 Speaker 2: gold dish yellow whatever but again, win is a win 976 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:23,839 Speaker 2: is a wind no matter what jersey you're wearing. 977 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 1: Those are my thoughts over in Big ten territory, Ohio 978 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:33,960 Speaker 1: State fifty four, Iowa ten. You pretty much called this 979 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 1: one paraphrasing, okay, but basically Ohio State is good enough 980 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 1: to struggle for a bit and then pour it on 981 00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:47,280 Speaker 1: and still cover a large point spread. It was thirty points. Yeah, 982 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,560 Speaker 1: turns out you were right. That's exactly what happened here. 983 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,320 Speaker 1: I don't want to undersell the Buckeye offense because they're 984 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,359 Speaker 1: really good. They're explosive. They're just loaded to the gills 985 00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,359 Speaker 1: with talent. Jsan was back in this one, right like. 986 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,360 Speaker 1: Not a great game for their rushing attack. CJ. Stroud 987 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,600 Speaker 1: was solid, but the offense as a whole is still dynamic. 988 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,040 Speaker 1: They're going to give Penn State fits next week. We 989 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 1: can talk about that game in two time. Sure we 990 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,640 Speaker 1: do keep coming back to the Iowa offense, though, we 991 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,239 Speaker 1: keep coming back to the Iowa offense. A balance to 992 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,480 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty eight yards in this one, with 993 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:25,440 Speaker 1: always six turnovers, three fumbles, three interceptions, one for thirteen 994 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:29,080 Speaker 1: on third downs, almost, if at all possible, worse than 995 00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:33,640 Speaker 1: expected against a top three team. Alex Padilla and his 996 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:38,560 Speaker 1: vaunted flotilla made its way back into the game for 997 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,359 Speaker 1: the Iowa Hawk guys, maybe a little bit better than 998 00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:47,000 Speaker 1: Spencer Petris, but ultimately the Hawkeys remain a disaster on offense, 999 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:52,719 Speaker 1: total disaster on offense. They lose by forty four. How 1000 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,759 Speaker 1: do you muster the energy to get out of bed? 1001 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,000 Speaker 1: If you're playing like defensive end or outside linebacker for Iowa, 1002 00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,520 Speaker 1: how do you muster the energy to keep keep going? 1003 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,840 Speaker 1: And we made the jokes about the Sam Laporta extraction 1004 00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:04,719 Speaker 1: a few weeks ago. 1005 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 2: He must be the best player in America. This must 1006 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,239 Speaker 2: be the best defense in America because to summon the 1007 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,759 Speaker 2: will knowing what your offense is not able to do, 1008 00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,640 Speaker 2: whether it's injuries, whether it's transfers, whether it's quarterbacks who 1009 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:22,080 Speaker 2: don't develop. Iow's defense did a really nice job against 1010 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,160 Speaker 2: Ohio State. I think the final score is pretty misleading. 1011 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,399 Speaker 2: They're able to stop the run, like you mentioned, able 1012 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,319 Speaker 2: to stay in front of receivers for the most part, 1013 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:29,719 Speaker 2: but you can only do so much if you're on 1014 00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,800 Speaker 2: the field for the entire game. And Amika Buca and 1015 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,040 Speaker 2: Julian Fleming and you know, we had Jackson Smith and 1016 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:39,960 Speaker 2: Jigba play for the first time in a while. There's 1017 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,160 Speaker 2: only so much you can do. And Ohio State's defense 1018 00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:43,280 Speaker 2: was scoring points. 1019 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:44,080 Speaker 1: Yep, so. 1020 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,239 Speaker 2: Ohio States defense looks like they're going to be in 1021 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,400 Speaker 2: a better place to put this entire team in a 1022 00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 2: position to win some huge games. But no, by and large, 1023 00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:57,720 Speaker 2: Iowas defense at a really nice job. 1024 00:51:58,400 --> 00:51:59,000 Speaker 1: It's just. 1025 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,840 Speaker 2: I mean, we have the conversation before. The Iowa offense 1026 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,279 Speaker 2: is a nightmare. And even if Brian Farrence is a 1027 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:09,359 Speaker 2: good offensive coordinator, if all is put together for him, 1028 00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,719 Speaker 2: if he has an okay quarterback, if he has a 1029 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,919 Speaker 2: pretty good offensive line and decent skill position, if he's 1030 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:19,680 Speaker 2: creative and inventive, whatever, it doesn't matter because he has 1031 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 2: been the coordinator, he has been the offensive line coach. 1032 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,640 Speaker 2: And they don't have a good line, they don't have 1033 00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,080 Speaker 2: a good quarterback, they don't have a creative offense. They 1034 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:31,440 Speaker 2: don't adjust in any sort of meaningful way. And this 1035 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 2: is just where we are. And if Kirk Ference is 1036 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,879 Speaker 2: going to be the medium term coach for this Iowa program, 1037 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,839 Speaker 2: this offense needs an overhaul. The offensive coaching staff needs 1038 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,160 Speaker 2: an overhaul. The way that they function in the vision 1039 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,000 Speaker 2: for this offense needs a complete overhaul. These are not takes, 1040 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,959 Speaker 2: These are just realities after watching one of the best 1041 00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,600 Speaker 2: four defenses, seven defenses, two defenses in the country have 1042 00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:57,160 Speaker 2: a performance completely wasted. 1043 00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:01,839 Speaker 1: Yeah. We had a guy on YouTube comment, Yeah, he's 1044 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:05,879 Speaker 1: an Iowa fan that I always been to a bowl game. 1045 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 1: However many years in a row. He thinks the take 1046 00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,759 Speaker 1: on Iowa's offense is the wrong take, disagrees, doesn't have 1047 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,439 Speaker 1: a problem with it. I think that's a very odd 1048 00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,440 Speaker 1: hill to die on. Frankly, you want to see something 1049 00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,520 Speaker 1: from your offense, presumably you don't want to lose like this. 1050 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,800 Speaker 1: They have been inept on offense. And it's a shame 1051 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 1: for the defense because, as you said, the defense is 1052 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:31,120 Speaker 1: really good. This is a really good defense. So I 1053 00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,239 Speaker 1: feel bad for that side of the football. I feel 1054 00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,479 Speaker 1: bad for the offensive side of the football. I feel 1055 00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,719 Speaker 1: bad for the kids on the team. It seems as 1056 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,000 Speaker 1: if the coaching staff is letting them down. That I 1057 00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,080 Speaker 1: know the offensive line has some work to do. It's 1058 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,759 Speaker 1: not entirely coaching. Some of it is actual skill out there. 1059 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 1: But nonetheless, man, it's just tough to watch this good 1060 00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,360 Speaker 1: it's tough to work job Phil Parker, like you're wasting 1061 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 1: Phil Parker's time. That's by the way, I've enjoyed this 1062 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:59,719 Speaker 1: has been tie versus YouTube comment or point counterpoints and 1063 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:05,480 Speaker 1: talking about Penn State. Penn State wins big, forty five 1064 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:11,160 Speaker 1: to seventeen over Minnesota. Tanner Morgan not able to go, 1065 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:15,400 Speaker 1: which meant we got to see freshman athen caliak manis 1066 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:19,839 Speaker 1: the Greek freak who got the start in Morgan's absence. 1067 00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,680 Speaker 1: He was not very good. He was nine to twenty two, 1068 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,600 Speaker 1: one seventy five touchdown and a pick. It would be 1069 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,239 Speaker 1: very unfair to put it all on him. It was 1070 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,319 Speaker 1: not entirely his fault. The Minnesota defense just had no 1071 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,760 Speaker 1: answer for anything Penn State wanted to do on offense. 1072 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,160 Speaker 1: Sean Clifford did get the start, much to my chagrin, 1073 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:45,240 Speaker 1: did pretty well. Looked okay, four touchdowns, had an early turnover, 1074 00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,680 Speaker 1: which everybody people were sending me messages about that, but 1075 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,680 Speaker 1: four touchdowns. In the end, we will have to wait 1076 00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,160 Speaker 1: at least a few more weeks before we get to 1077 00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:59,080 Speaker 1: see Drew Aller. But offensively, we got to see Nick 1078 00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,120 Speaker 1: Singleton kh Tron Allen do a bit of a time 1079 00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:06,400 Speaker 1: share in the backfield. Nick Singleton two touchdowns definitely showcased 1080 00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:11,319 Speaker 1: his wiggle and burst, which I think is something Penn 1081 00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,960 Speaker 1: State has sorely missed. You've always loved wiggle and burst always. 1082 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,200 Speaker 1: It's gonna be my football but in life. Yeah, yeah, 1083 00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,400 Speaker 1: it's gonna be my title bround doing my memoir. 1084 00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, wiggle and burst the tylden Brand story. 1085 00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:29,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. For the Gophers third straight loss, PJ Flex said 1086 00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,279 Speaker 1: that it's one hundred percent on him. I don't know 1087 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:35,040 Speaker 1: if it's one hundred percent on him, but Minnesota not 1088 00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:38,800 Speaker 1: a great showing here three straight weeks. Penn State hosts 1089 00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,680 Speaker 1: Ohio State next week. We will obviously be covering that 1090 00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:46,280 Speaker 1: football game very closely. It will likely be Sean Clifford again. 1091 00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,239 Speaker 1: My guess is that after Penn State loses that one, 1092 00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,200 Speaker 1: then we'll see Drew Aller the rest of the way. 1093 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,160 Speaker 1: But and when that happens, it won't be a moment 1094 00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,799 Speaker 1: too soon, I promise you. But that's just where we're at. 1095 00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,640 Speaker 2: I thought Penn State's strategy going and the game plan 1096 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,040 Speaker 2: and the execution were kind of perfect. I know it 1097 00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,520 Speaker 2: was a little bit back and forth early on, but 1098 00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,000 Speaker 2: run the ball straight up Minnesota beat up Minnesota team, 1099 00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,880 Speaker 2: and then the middle was pretty open, right, they were 1100 00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:15,440 Speaker 2: hitting tight ends and Sean Clifford was buying large pretty 1101 00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:19,239 Speaker 2: accurate and impressive. The defense came to play, and Minnesota 1102 00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,680 Speaker 2: seems to be like a weird reversal of under PJ. 1103 00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,840 Speaker 2: Fleck with where they were. To me, if my memory 1104 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:31,400 Speaker 2: serves with Tracy Clay's and Jerry kill where like you 1105 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,160 Speaker 2: just sort of forget about Minnesota and then you wake 1106 00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,520 Speaker 2: up and they're eight and two and you're like, wait, really, 1107 00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,279 Speaker 2: Minnesota might be pretty good. They're fielding another like top 1108 00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:43,279 Speaker 2: twenty defense, the offense isn't great, and now it's four 1109 00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,319 Speaker 2: weeks in, Hey, Minnesota might be really good. And then 1110 00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,399 Speaker 2: by week six when they start playing real teams, Week 1111 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:53,320 Speaker 2: seven whatever, you're like, oh yeah, I think at goar 1112 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:54,240 Speaker 2: left to be desired. 1113 00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,600 Speaker 1: A lot of that stems from the fact that normally 1114 00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,720 Speaker 1: Wisconsin's better, sure, more of a threat in the West. 1115 00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,920 Speaker 1: Normally Iowa. We're not talking about Iowa in such a 1116 00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:07,160 Speaker 1: derogatory fashion, totally right. It's easier for them to sneak 1117 00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:10,640 Speaker 1: under the radar when some of those teams that were 1118 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,480 Speaker 1: used to talking about are a little bit more prominent 1119 00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:14,840 Speaker 1: in the West totally. 1120 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,800 Speaker 2: Now might be Purdue, now might be Illinois, and the 1121 00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:23,120 Speaker 2: Illinois is alone atop the Big ten West standing that's alone. 1122 00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:26,720 Speaker 1: That's rightfully so. With the loss by Purdue, I was 1123 00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,200 Speaker 1: just going to talk about Wisconsin thirty five Perdue twenty 1124 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:33,200 Speaker 1: four with the Purdue loss, now Illinois is alone atop 1125 00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:34,120 Speaker 1: the Big ten West. 1126 00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,480 Speaker 2: Correct another game that got out of hand early. And 1127 00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:41,800 Speaker 2: no matter how promising and creative and interesting produce seems 1128 00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:47,960 Speaker 2: to be at times, death taxes losing to Wisconsin. 1129 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:51,800 Speaker 1: Sixteen straight years, sixteen straight years that the Badgers have 1130 00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:52,480 Speaker 1: beaten Purdue. 1131 00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,720 Speaker 2: Wisconsin jumped right on them right. They had a pick 1132 00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,160 Speaker 2: six relatively early on. It was twenty one, twenty one 1133 00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,560 Speaker 2: to three, something like that at the blink of eye. 1134 00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,320 Speaker 2: And Purdue did a nice job, by the way, just 1135 00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,480 Speaker 2: sort of scratching and clawing back. They got creative, they 1136 00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,560 Speaker 2: aired the ball out a little bit, but brayln Allen 1137 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,960 Speaker 2: Graham Mertz, the defense came to play, by and large, 1138 00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:15,360 Speaker 2: and a nice performance, a vintage Wisconsin performance. I don't 1139 00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:19,280 Speaker 2: know to when, but a vintage defense running the ball 1140 00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:23,440 Speaker 2: and efficient passing attack. If not spectacular from Wisconsin, as 1141 00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:27,120 Speaker 2: Jim Leonard I think rightfully engles for this very big job. 1142 00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:27,480 Speaker 4: Yep. 1143 00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:30,360 Speaker 1: The other two matchups here in the Big Ten that 1144 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,560 Speaker 1: I just want to mention here quickly and they'll move 1145 00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:36,520 Speaker 1: on to the ACC. Maryland wins by seven. They rally 1146 00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:40,800 Speaker 1: behind some big plays from a mcmsby rakeem Jarrett, took 1147 00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:45,200 Speaker 1: control one thirty one, twenty four, got Bowl eligible, Bowl 1148 00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:49,120 Speaker 1: eligible Maryland. There you go and Rutgers. Rutgers wins twenty 1149 00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:53,680 Speaker 1: four to seventeen over Indiana. Notably, it was Indiana's seven 1150 00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,520 Speaker 1: hundredth program loss. For whatever that's wrong. 1151 00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,720 Speaker 2: Jeez, a true elite loser who goes up fourteen to nothing. 1152 00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,680 Speaker 2: I think it was an opening kickoff touchdown return for Indiana. 1153 00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:08,440 Speaker 2: And then we've talked about this offline that everybody likes 1154 00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,720 Speaker 2: to make fun of Iowa and the way they're losing 1155 00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:14,640 Speaker 2: in the offense. Indiana is the true hipster bad team 1156 00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,400 Speaker 2: with what they were not able to do on offense 1157 00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:20,960 Speaker 2: with Connor Bezlac, by the way, was no Evegril for Rutgers, 1158 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:24,280 Speaker 2: their backup quarterback. Rutgers slowly gets better over the course 1159 00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,240 Speaker 2: of this game, making plays. You get the pick six, 1160 00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,400 Speaker 2: I think in the second half to make it a 1161 00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:33,360 Speaker 2: two score game. Indiana has completely fallen apart as a program. 1162 00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,640 Speaker 2: They tried to hit the portal and make big changes 1163 00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:40,720 Speaker 2: after last year, but completely fallen apart since the beautiful 1164 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,000 Speaker 2: Michael Pennock season a couple of years ago. 1165 00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:49,760 Speaker 1: Duke forty five one Duke, Speaking of which, dukead three 1166 00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:53,960 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty six yards and forty five points. I 1167 00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:57,160 Speaker 1: want to know how Dan, I'm gonna tell you too. Yeah. 1168 00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:02,680 Speaker 1: Miami turned the ball over an astounding eight times, five fumbles, 1169 01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:08,000 Speaker 1: three interceptions, the most by any FBS program in the 1170 01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:12,240 Speaker 1: last fourteen or fifteen seasons. To make matters worse, Tyler 1171 01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,360 Speaker 1: Van Dyke TVD, as he is known on this program, 1172 01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,800 Speaker 1: went down with an apparent shoulder injury in the second quarter. 1173 01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:27,160 Speaker 1: This game was a tirefire, an absolute abomination for the Hurricanes. 1174 01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,040 Speaker 1: Now Miami is three and four. I don't know which 1175 01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,960 Speaker 1: direction the season heads after this, but it's a huge 1176 01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:38,800 Speaker 1: black eye to lose at home like this to Duke, 1177 01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,600 Speaker 1: not to Duke, but like this to Duke. 1178 01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:46,240 Speaker 2: They still went over in the acc all of last 1179 01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:46,800 Speaker 2: year ago. 1180 01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:48,000 Speaker 1: That's correct. 1181 01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:52,800 Speaker 2: Shifting narratives is now part of the Mario Cristobal element 1182 01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,720 Speaker 2: of communications because now it's a rebuild. They came into 1183 01:00:56,720 --> 01:01:00,520 Speaker 2: the season. This is Miami. They had, I mean, the 1184 01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:02,720 Speaker 2: I think the second best roster in terms of talent 1185 01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:06,600 Speaker 2: in the ACC after Clemson, and they bring him TVD 1186 01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:10,080 Speaker 2: who develops into this NFL caliber quarterback and now it's 1187 01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,840 Speaker 2: a rebuild. Now it's oh, they have so many injuries. 1188 01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:13,200 Speaker 1: Now. 1189 01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:18,200 Speaker 2: The thing is they've developed a clear number one receiver Miami. 1190 01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:21,320 Speaker 2: That's that's a bright spot. You've got a couple of 1191 01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:26,400 Speaker 2: dudes on defense. Those are bright spots. This Mario christ 1192 01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,480 Speaker 2: Ball is bringing Miami back to the days of losing 1193 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,480 Speaker 2: to f i U. That's those are the days he's 1194 01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:35,080 Speaker 2: bringing Miami back to. And the thing that kills me 1195 01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:38,080 Speaker 2: tie And it has nothing to do with Mario cristaball 1196 01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,080 Speaker 2: in Oregon, has nothing to do with that baggage. It 1197 01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:41,840 Speaker 2: has nothing to do with the very good job Mike 1198 01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,640 Speaker 2: Elcho and Duke have done. Riley Leonard just as a 1199 01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,560 Speaker 2: balanced offense and making plays on defense, were taking advantage 1200 01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:51,440 Speaker 2: game four touchdowns. You got to take advantage of the situation. 1201 01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,560 Speaker 2: You got to draft off of that opportunity truck. The 1202 01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,840 Speaker 2: thing that gets me, that grinds my gears, that just 1203 01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:02,320 Speaker 2: kills me. This all happen on Miami's Senior Citizen Day. 1204 01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:06,640 Speaker 2: Oh man, the greatest generation had to bear witness. Wow, 1205 01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:08,520 Speaker 2: this travesty. 1206 01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,040 Speaker 1: Of a football. I forgot about that. 1207 01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,480 Speaker 2: As senior sixty five years and older got discounted tickets. 1208 01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:19,480 Speaker 2: So man, dark day for Miami. And look, it's it's 1209 01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:23,480 Speaker 2: Mario Cristobal's true season coming up here, recruiting season in 1210 01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:24,680 Speaker 2: mid to late December. 1211 01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,840 Speaker 1: But otherwise I don't know. 1212 01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:32,600 Speaker 2: I Miami will get better, but I don't see them 1213 01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:36,080 Speaker 2: being excellent in the ACC under Mario Cristobal because they 1214 01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,840 Speaker 2: shouldn't have this floor even if they're playing. You know, 1215 01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:42,280 Speaker 2: freshmen at this position, in that position, good players. You 1216 01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,120 Speaker 2: got to develop them into decent plays. You got to 1217 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,240 Speaker 2: develop guys who are good enough to beat Duke at 1218 01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:47,360 Speaker 2: home in front of a number. 1219 01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,400 Speaker 1: Of sea Here's what worries me in front of a 1220 01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:51,520 Speaker 1: bunch of seniors. Thank you. I think you're hundred percent correct. 1221 01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:56,960 Speaker 1: They deserve better. Take the Brian Kelly story. All right, 1222 01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,200 Speaker 1: let's take a look at Brian Kelly and what Brian 1223 01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:04,200 Speaker 1: Kelly did when he stepped foot at Notre Dame now 1224 01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,080 Speaker 1: what he's doing at LSU, teams have gotten better the 1225 01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,440 Speaker 1: first year. It feels like the team's a game. Maybe 1226 01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,880 Speaker 1: they have more talent this season at LSU than they 1227 01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:16,600 Speaker 1: do at Miami. My hunches they do. Yeah. But regardless, Kelly, 1228 01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:20,840 Speaker 1: I think has proven himself very adept at making these 1229 01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:25,880 Speaker 1: first year teams better. Is Miami getting better? You feel 1230 01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,840 Speaker 1: like they're what which direction are they trending? Dan, because 1231 01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:32,720 Speaker 1: they had eight turnovers in this game, eight that shouldn't happen. 1232 01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:36,760 Speaker 1: And so whether it's a matter of shifting the narrative, 1233 01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:39,360 Speaker 1: whether it's a matter of changing the quarterback with I 1234 01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:42,600 Speaker 1: don't know what needs to happen at Miami, but this 1235 01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:47,640 Speaker 1: is definitely not a very promising opening Stanza for Crystabal. Yeah. 1236 01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:49,840 Speaker 2: I mean, look, they're going to be saddled with unrealistic 1237 01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:53,640 Speaker 2: expectations forever. That's just the nature of Miami football. 1238 01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:57,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1239 01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:00,760 Speaker 2: I mean, it's one of those situations where like Duke 1240 01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:04,479 Speaker 2: and Middle Tennessee, I know, all right, not not much 1241 01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:06,960 Speaker 2: more needs to be said beyond good for Duke. 1242 01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,880 Speaker 1: Louisville knocks off Pitt twenty four to ten. Pitt ugly 1243 01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:13,640 Speaker 1: Pitt looked like a Louisville cover band, Dan. They had. 1244 01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:16,800 Speaker 1: They had four turnovers, a bunch of their own mistakes. 1245 01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:20,680 Speaker 1: Louisville came to life out of nowhere, like phoenix rising 1246 01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,360 Speaker 1: from the ashes. They scored seventeen on answer to grab 1247 01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,880 Speaker 1: the dub. Louisville on a two game winning streak. How 1248 01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:29,640 Speaker 1: about that, Dan, for they need everything they can get. Yeah, 1249 01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:31,320 Speaker 1: they ran the hell out of the ball against pitt 1250 01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,400 Speaker 1: They did. They did their four and three. They've got 1251 01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:38,400 Speaker 1: games left against Wake, James Madison, at Clemson, NC State, 1252 01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,640 Speaker 1: at Kentucky. So to be tough sledding for Scott Saderfield 1253 01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:43,240 Speaker 1: to get to a bowl, but I think it's there. 1254 01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,680 Speaker 1: Twenty four to ten again was your final. We had 1255 01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:51,040 Speaker 1: Wake Forest forty three to fifteen over Boston College. Five 1256 01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:55,680 Speaker 1: touchdown passes, another touchdown run for Sam Hartman. Wake Forest, 1257 01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,440 Speaker 1: by the way, has scored thirty points in all seven 1258 01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:03,040 Speaker 1: of its games. By the way, Wake's remaining schedule may 1259 01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,520 Speaker 1: be some of the most watchable college football the rest. 1260 01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:05,600 Speaker 5: Of the way. 1261 01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:10,120 Speaker 1: Hit me at Louisville, at NC State, North Carolina, Syracuse, 1262 01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:13,080 Speaker 1: and at Duke. That's a decent slate. That's a really 1263 01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:15,080 Speaker 1: decent slate for Wake Forest to close out its tear 1264 01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:22,120 Speaker 1: and last, but certainly least uh Virginia sixteen Georgia Tech, 1265 01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:27,240 Speaker 1: Oh god nine, speaking of vintage performances, a do it 1266 01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:31,200 Speaker 1: all effort from Brennan Armstrong, the Who's needed it. They 1267 01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:33,360 Speaker 1: had four turnovers that they needed to overcome in order 1268 01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,560 Speaker 1: to win this game. Any quick, quick, quick, quick quick 1269 01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:36,520 Speaker 1: thoughts on any. 1270 01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:40,320 Speaker 2: No, not not especially, but the bottom and bottom potential 1271 01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:45,160 Speaker 2: of the ACC is so dreadfully entertaining that no other 1272 01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:49,560 Speaker 2: conference really comes close. Like when you look at Virginia 1273 01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:53,480 Speaker 2: and Virginia Tech and the depths of where Miami has 1274 01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:57,760 Speaker 2: fallen to Georgia Tech, it is the most robust failure 1275 01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:01,760 Speaker 2: Jacuzzi we have in the sport. Among the Power five 1276 01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:06,200 Speaker 2: conference is just a bunch of like unhinged, sweaty failures 1277 01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:10,000 Speaker 2: sitting around the jets in the sadness Chakouzzie. 1278 01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you can shine a flashlight and you can't 1279 01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,600 Speaker 1: even see the bottom of it. You have to plumb 1280 01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:17,840 Speaker 1: the depths with some sort of device sort to figure 1281 01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:18,520 Speaker 1: out where the I mean. 1282 01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:21,040 Speaker 2: And even just the moments for Florida State, the moments 1283 01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:25,760 Speaker 2: for Louisville, the moments for you know, NC State on offense, 1284 01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:29,560 Speaker 2: Like it's just week after week of like, oh, guys, 1285 01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:32,840 Speaker 2: I don't know if we should be broadcasting this in HD. 1286 01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:37,240 Speaker 1: It's tough. Finally in the PAC twelve here, no, I'll 1287 01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:38,560 Speaker 1: mention Notre Dame last. 1288 01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:38,640 Speaker 5: Why not? 1289 01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:43,400 Speaker 1: But okay that they're affiliated Washington twenty eight, Cal twenty one, 1290 01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:47,240 Speaker 1: Oregon State forty two, Colorado nine. And then have very 1291 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:51,120 Speaker 1: bizarre game between Stanford and Arizona State fifteen to fourteen. 1292 01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,360 Speaker 1: Stanford knocks off the Sun Devil's Dan. 1293 01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,560 Speaker 2: Any thoughts there, Stanford is now on an FBS winning 1294 01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:00,360 Speaker 2: streak and we're having a long losing streak. If you 1295 01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:03,800 Speaker 2: saw the way that game ended. An ASU receiver Elijah 1296 01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:07,200 Speaker 2: Badger had a great game, by the way, gets behind 1297 01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:09,960 Speaker 2: the Stanford secondary and in the moment that you absolutely 1298 01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:12,320 Speaker 2: can't let anybody behind you, but I think he was 1299 01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:15,680 Speaker 2: ruled out of bounds with like the most unbelievable. 1300 01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:16,840 Speaker 1: Catch of the year. It was like a one handed 1301 01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:17,400 Speaker 1: ish catch. 1302 01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:22,080 Speaker 2: So ASU loses to Stanford, BUTSU the way, of course, Yeah. 1303 01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:24,160 Speaker 1: Were there more people on the field than in the 1304 01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,760 Speaker 1: stands for that Stanford game? Dude, It is tough. 1305 01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:30,640 Speaker 2: I've been to Stanford games plural, and as our friend 1306 01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:34,840 Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz likes to play, likes to say, visiting teams 1307 01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:39,320 Speaker 2: that play at Stanford have an unusually difficult time because 1308 01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:43,360 Speaker 2: you have to generate your own energy when you play 1309 01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:47,360 Speaker 2: on the farm, like teams feed off of a rambunctious 1310 01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:50,480 Speaker 2: home crowd. But that's just sort of like playing at 1311 01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:54,120 Speaker 2: a co op, right, You're just like playing on the 1312 01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:57,640 Speaker 2: field of dreams field where you're just like, well, I 1313 01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:02,680 Speaker 2: guess some locals might stumble in, Yeah, that program is 1314 01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:06,160 Speaker 2: not all that. There's just zero electricity going on. So 1315 01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:09,720 Speaker 2: they won sixteen to fourteen over not fifteen fourteen, sixty fourteen. 1316 01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and now fifteeneen over Arizona State. 1317 01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:16,200 Speaker 2: So yeah, Stanford gets going Oregon State. With backup quarterback 1318 01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:19,680 Speaker 2: was Ben Goldbrinson. They run the hell out of the 1319 01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:22,280 Speaker 2: ball and are now BAWL eligible, by the way, with 1320 01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:25,840 Speaker 2: their very comfortable win over I believe you said Colorado right, correct, 1321 01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:30,919 Speaker 2: and then cal still can't get much going, but Washington 1322 01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:32,720 Speaker 2: was sort of fits and starts in this game, but 1323 01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:36,879 Speaker 2: another game like it's win your games. Washington now BAWL eligible, 1324 01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:39,000 Speaker 2: I believe after winning four games last year with Jimmy Lake, 1325 01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,400 Speaker 2: but like, we really just going to watch Washington throw 1326 01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:44,160 Speaker 2: the ball fifty eight times a game with Michael Fennix. 1327 01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:46,479 Speaker 2: I guess, so they're winning more often than they're losing, 1328 01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,160 Speaker 2: so that's good, so they come away with the win. 1329 01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:53,080 Speaker 2: I think that was sort of it right, because Utah 1330 01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:57,240 Speaker 2: is off, USC is off. We mentioned UCLA, it was off. 1331 01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:59,840 Speaker 2: They have short week. I think Wazoo hosts Utah this 1332 01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:02,560 Speaker 2: week on a Thursday night late, so that could be 1333 01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:06,080 Speaker 2: kind of interesting and weird. And then you mentioned Notre 1334 01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:07,760 Speaker 2: Dame you and LV any takeaways there? 1335 01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:11,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a couple, okay, not name one. Most 1336 01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:14,679 Speaker 1: importantly forty four twenty one Isaiah Foski block two punts, 1337 01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:18,400 Speaker 1: which is fun. Hey, that's good quick observations. I posted 1338 01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:22,080 Speaker 1: a little bit of this to Twitter, but Drew Pine 1339 01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:24,240 Speaker 1: was not very good. It's like three weeks in a 1340 01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:29,720 Speaker 1: row where he truly only has eyes for Michael Maher. Yeah. 1341 01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:31,479 Speaker 1: And I said this to our Frank Keith Arnold, who 1342 01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:33,439 Speaker 1: tweeted back and forth with me a little bit about this. 1343 01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:37,000 Speaker 1: If somebody stared at you the way Drew Pine is 1344 01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,439 Speaker 1: staring at Michael Mahyer, you'd call the cops. You call 1345 01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:41,880 Speaker 1: the cops. It's just not healthy. It's a little weird. 1346 01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:46,200 Speaker 1: The running game had better numbers. But my big issue 1347 01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:49,519 Speaker 1: with this offense is that it feels like Tommy Reese 1348 01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:53,920 Speaker 1: is asking Madden. Frankly, he's hitting that button on most 1349 01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:57,280 Speaker 1: of his play calls because genius. Yeah, I'm maybe I'm 1350 01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:59,519 Speaker 1: not smart enough to see the master plan, or maybe 1351 01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:01,760 Speaker 1: they're just isn't a master plan. It doesn't feel like 1352 01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:05,520 Speaker 1: there's any cohesion from down to down, from play to play, 1353 01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:07,559 Speaker 1: like what they're going for. So many of these offenses 1354 01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:09,479 Speaker 1: that we talk about, you can see what they're going for, 1355 01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:12,519 Speaker 1: what they're setting up like, it makes logical sense. This 1356 01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,479 Speaker 1: is just like whatever he feels like. And so you know, 1357 01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:17,599 Speaker 1: in a game like this against UNLV, they can obviously 1358 01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:19,679 Speaker 1: get away with it. But against some of the better 1359 01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:22,759 Speaker 1: teams we've seen this season, it amounts to a nothing offense, 1360 01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:25,879 Speaker 1: and there will be more opportunities for that nothing offense 1361 01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:30,559 Speaker 1: against teams like Clemson and even USC like you will 1362 01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:32,840 Speaker 1: see this happen again. So I don't know, I don't 1363 01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:34,840 Speaker 1: know where it's going for them, but a win's a win. 1364 01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:40,320 Speaker 1: We had Cincinnati holding on not covering the points spread 1365 01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:43,640 Speaker 1: against SMU, but winning twenty nine to twenty seven. They 1366 01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:46,679 Speaker 1: had controlled this one most of the way. SMUs scored 1367 01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:49,280 Speaker 1: fourteen points late to make it look a little bit closer, 1368 01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:52,719 Speaker 1: but Cincinnati was able to put this one on ice 1369 01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:58,439 Speaker 1: and Twulane top twenty five tou Lane winning by ten 1370 01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:02,840 Speaker 1: over Memphis. Tulane beating Kase State. Not looking as bad 1371 01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:06,320 Speaker 1: as we thought for k State. No, not looking great, 1372 01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:07,960 Speaker 1: but still not looking as bad. 1373 01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:10,439 Speaker 2: No, they ran the ball well. Willie Fritz and the 1374 01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:11,840 Speaker 2: Green Wave getting it done. 1375 01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:12,360 Speaker 1: By the way. 1376 01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:15,439 Speaker 2: Some weird results and fun results in G five, I 1377 01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:19,320 Speaker 2: watched a couple of these, just very quickly. Buffalo did 1378 01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:22,880 Speaker 2: a great job against Toledo. The same Buffalo program that 1379 01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:26,320 Speaker 2: lost to holy Cross earlier on in the season has 1380 01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:30,000 Speaker 2: now beaten at one point undefeated Toledo in the MAC. 1381 01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:33,160 Speaker 2: And is they they themselves? The Bulls are undefeated in 1382 01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:35,479 Speaker 2: the MAC bowling Green four and four, three and one 1383 01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:38,840 Speaker 2: in the MAC. They take down Central Michigan, Ohio is 1384 01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:41,599 Speaker 2: not a disaster anymore. The Bobcats get it done against 1385 01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:46,240 Speaker 2: Northern Illinois Rice very quietly. So this is overtime in 1386 01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:49,200 Speaker 2: the wake of me saying why does Rice Football exist 1387 01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:53,240 Speaker 2: Mike Bloomgren on the ground in that system, it has 1388 01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:55,559 Speaker 2: done a great job. They take down Louisiana Attack in 1389 01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:59,800 Speaker 2: overtime on the road, liberty paces or pastes. 1390 01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:00,200 Speaker 1: Really by you. 1391 01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:03,519 Speaker 2: They moved to seven and one quietly doing really really 1392 01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:07,840 Speaker 2: well elsewhere. Marshall's had a weird up and down the year. 1393 01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:09,439 Speaker 2: They're not doing all that well in the Sun Belt 1394 01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:11,599 Speaker 2: in their first year, but still beat Notre Dame JMU 1395 01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:15,240 Speaker 2: without Todd Sentio and so they don't really get much 1396 01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:18,479 Speaker 2: going on offense. Georgia Southern very quietly having a nice year. 1397 01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,360 Speaker 2: They take down ODU, who is at a pretty good year, 1398 01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:25,440 Speaker 2: Mike McIntyre and Fiu Man. There's a Will Healy conversation 1399 01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:29,360 Speaker 2: to be had because things are going really poorly. They're 1400 01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:32,160 Speaker 2: beat up, but they're going really poorly. In Charlotte, they 1401 01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:34,559 Speaker 2: moved to one and seven oh to four In Conference USA, 1402 01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:38,559 Speaker 2: UTSA gets Bowl eligible. They still haven't lost in Conference USA. 1403 01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,559 Speaker 2: Take down a feisty I would say North Texas team, 1404 01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:46,080 Speaker 2: so that's good. UTEP continues to be decent. They beat 1405 01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:49,360 Speaker 2: FAU and Willie Taggart by three. They come back late 1406 01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:52,920 Speaker 2: or it's just back and forth late I have what 1407 01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,280 Speaker 2: do we have? Louisiana getting going after a slow start. 1408 01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:58,400 Speaker 2: They take down a pretty bad Arkansas State team. Fresno 1409 01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:00,920 Speaker 2: gets it together. I mean they're still without j can 1410 01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,759 Speaker 2: Or I'm not sure for how long, but Logan Fife 1411 01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:07,040 Speaker 2: and you know the crew I think it was. They 1412 01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:08,880 Speaker 2: ran Jordan Mims. I think ran the ball super well 1413 01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:11,600 Speaker 2: against New Mexico, which you should Boise State. Not a 1414 01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:13,759 Speaker 2: high scoring affair. They don't score in the second half, 1415 01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:15,000 Speaker 2: but a win is a win is a win, and 1416 01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:18,120 Speaker 2: they have not lost in Mountain West play under Andy 1417 01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:23,400 Speaker 2: Avlos since bringing in Dirk Cutter. Elsewhere you see you 1418 01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:26,960 Speaker 2: another very quiet team lay the lumber and take down UCF. 1419 01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:30,000 Speaker 2: I think they intercept John Rice plumbly three times. 1420 01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:31,240 Speaker 1: In this one. Thank you for getting it right. 1421 01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:34,840 Speaker 2: If you make JRP throw the ball how many times? 1422 01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:35,920 Speaker 2: Forty fifty times? 1423 01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:37,440 Speaker 1: Too many, way too many. 1424 01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:39,200 Speaker 2: You're gonna beat UCF, who I still think is a 1425 01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:41,880 Speaker 2: pretty decent team. Wyoming, who started slowly with that lost 1426 01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:44,559 Speaker 2: to Illinois. They take down a disappointing Utah State team. 1427 01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:47,840 Speaker 2: We had somebody I'd believe. On our Spotify show College 1428 01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:51,519 Speaker 2: Football Thursdays each Thursday, at five pm Eastern. Lock up 1429 01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,400 Speaker 2: the under in San Diego State Nevada of thirty six. 1430 01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:57,439 Speaker 2: I want to say that hit as San Diego State 1431 01:13:57,479 --> 01:14:00,599 Speaker 2: beat Nevada, a terrible Nevada team twenty three seven. And 1432 01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,920 Speaker 2: it should be mentioned that the San Jose State New 1433 01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:07,559 Speaker 2: Mexico State game was postponed because of the tragic death 1434 01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,679 Speaker 2: of a freshman running back in a in a traffic accident. 1435 01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:13,719 Speaker 2: So you know, the Spartan team, I'm sure just absolutely 1436 01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:18,240 Speaker 2: reeling emotionally, so that game postponed. But by the way, 1437 01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:20,360 Speaker 2: before we get into do is really quickly tie? The 1438 01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:25,960 Speaker 2: following teams are Bowl eligible? How are they? The Troy 1439 01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:30,800 Speaker 2: Trojans with a nice Thursday night win, LSU, Oregon, Oklahoma State, 1440 01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:34,160 Speaker 2: Wake Forest, Penn State, Cincinnati, Maryland, the road Runners meet 1441 01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:38,040 Speaker 2: meep of UTSA, Oregon State, and Washington all Bowl eligible 1442 01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:40,639 Speaker 2: can be playing deep into December and or January. 1443 01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:48,600 Speaker 1: Beautiful. Hey Dan, yeah, breaking news. 1444 01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:50,599 Speaker 2: All right, I don't know what you're referencing, but here 1445 01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:50,960 Speaker 2: we go. 1446 01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:54,720 Speaker 1: You mentioned the Will Heey conversation. They had it. He's fired, Oh, 1447 01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:59,520 Speaker 1: he's done. Just since the start of this broadcast. One 1448 01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:01,880 Speaker 1: of the patial hazards of doing a show bright and 1449 01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:07,439 Speaker 1: early on Yeah, Sunday mornings. Okay, folks have been waiting around. 1450 01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:09,040 Speaker 1: They want to hear the reverbs. We didn't play it 1451 01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:11,680 Speaker 1: at the top. We had a great batch. Kudos to 1452 01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:15,240 Speaker 1: our guy Shay again, who dutifully does a marvelous job 1453 01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:19,360 Speaker 1: putting these together late into the night on Saturdays, very 1454 01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:23,280 Speaker 1: bright and early on Sundays, people dial into four eight 1455 01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:25,200 Speaker 1: verbal one to give us their takes on all things 1456 01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:28,240 Speaker 1: college football. For those who have been waiting, here is 1457 01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:32,439 Speaker 1: your chance forget about today. I'm here enough for an 1458 01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:36,280 Speaker 1: Iowa's twenty twenty two offensive do I chart meeting from 1459 01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:40,519 Speaker 1: Dan at the end of the season. Hey, Hey, Dan 1460 01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:41,880 Speaker 1: living there from Santa. 1461 01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:44,120 Speaker 3: Feir, Hey, this is Taylor from Atlanta. 1462 01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:47,880 Speaker 1: Dan Ty Aaron brom ccre, Michigan. Even though I am 1463 01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:49,080 Speaker 1: a Buck guy and this. 1464 01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:51,800 Speaker 3: Is test the best shotten burda. 1465 01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:55,400 Speaker 1: Ever, there's a hole in the bucket, Dear. 1466 01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:57,760 Speaker 3: PJ Deer, PJ. 1467 01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:00,880 Speaker 1: De Ohio State Buck guys just scored more point on 1468 01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:03,880 Speaker 1: Iowa than any other team in the Kirk Farrens era. 1469 01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:06,679 Speaker 1: Time to fire Farren. Go Buck guys. 1470 01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:09,120 Speaker 5: I'm glad I took a couple of hours before I 1471 01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:12,320 Speaker 5: called in because if I had called right at the 1472 01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:14,080 Speaker 5: end of the game, I don't think you would have 1473 01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:16,599 Speaker 5: understood a word I would have said, because it would 1474 01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:19,880 Speaker 5: have been nothing but a string of expletives. You have 1475 01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:21,679 Speaker 5: to talk to your kids about a six and one 1476 01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:27,640 Speaker 5: Syracuse football team instead. After watching Clemson Syracuse in Oklahoma 1477 01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:32,200 Speaker 5: State Texas back to back, I can safely say that 1478 01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:35,479 Speaker 5: I have never seen more orange on orange in my. 1479 01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:36,800 Speaker 1: Life as an Oregon fan. 1480 01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:40,240 Speaker 3: Watching Dan Lanning in four straight games, win a game 1481 01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:41,919 Speaker 3: that you're not supposed to do on the road, impullment, 1482 01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:44,320 Speaker 3: beat Stanford as a first year head. 1483 01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:47,599 Speaker 2: Coach, dominate in the city of Arizona, and then beat 1484 01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:48,320 Speaker 2: a soup senteen. 1485 01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:51,679 Speaker 5: I'm sure after the season that Presno State has had 1486 01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:52,200 Speaker 5: so far. 1487 01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:54,400 Speaker 1: BOYD does it feel good to get. 1488 01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:54,599 Speaker 4: In that. 1489 01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:59,840 Speaker 1: Neck crack game against New Mexico. Go Dogs. 1490 01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:03,200 Speaker 4: I don't know what tasted better, the cross pot chili 1491 01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:06,000 Speaker 4: I ate at my tailgate or pass date cross Pott 1492 01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:08,719 Speaker 4: in Minnesota in front of a white out on national TV. 1493 01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:12,040 Speaker 5: We all, baby, I just saw that my Calferras are 1494 01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:12,880 Speaker 5: playing right now. 1495 01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:14,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just gonna rute about Dan. 1496 01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:16,240 Speaker 3: Did you pick? 1497 01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:19,280 Speaker 1: Did you walk up old miss to beat Pelisees. 1498 01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:21,520 Speaker 5: How'd that work out? 1499 01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:22,640 Speaker 2: Tires? 1500 01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:24,599 Speaker 1: How about that? That was win? 1501 01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:26,160 Speaker 4: Oh? That was pretty impressive. 1502 01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:28,880 Speaker 3: It was even more enjoyable because I got to watch 1503 01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:30,599 Speaker 3: you with mar fire am away. 1504 01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:36,479 Speaker 4: After one thousand, eight hundred and thirteen long days, the 1505 01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:41,000 Speaker 4: Rutgers Scarlet Knights have won a conference game at home. 1506 01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:44,719 Speaker 4: I believe that world piece is a minute. All nations 1507 01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:49,200 Speaker 4: will laigh their arms down in reference to the Rutgers 1508 01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:56,280 Speaker 4: Let Knights finally getting over this hump? Go Knights, are 1509 01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:57,000 Speaker 4: you rah? 1510 01:17:58,680 --> 01:17:59,000 Speaker 5: Well? 1511 01:17:59,160 --> 01:17:59,639 Speaker 1: Well? 1512 01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:05,519 Speaker 3: Well how about them? Tiger's baby? Oh my gosh, the 1513 01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:09,519 Speaker 3: portal King please? Lane Kisson is the head coach of 1514 01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:12,800 Speaker 3: ole myth Oll Myths. They come into Tiger Stadium, they 1515 01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:15,360 Speaker 3: get beat Death Valley takes no prisoners and dare I 1516 01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:17,600 Speaker 3: say it? Ls? You controlled their own DEATHNY is it 1517 01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:20,320 Speaker 3: early to day? We want Bama, we want bring you 1518 01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:24,719 Speaker 3: break down. 1519 01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:28,280 Speaker 1: Very very nice, shay little fast forward effect. I appreciate it. 1520 01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:31,400 Speaker 1: We appreciate it here. Thank you. We appreciate everybody who 1521 01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:33,800 Speaker 1: dialed into four o eight Verbal one. A number of 1522 01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:39,439 Speaker 1: great calls again mixed masterfully by our reverbs engineer. Thank 1523 01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:44,880 Speaker 1: you for your continued support. Out there over ballerhood Daniel. Yeah, 1524 01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:50,200 Speaker 1: one last thing. I hope it didn't blow your ear 1525 01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:52,559 Speaker 1: drums out. But we got some dudes to discuss here, 1526 01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:53,479 Speaker 1: do we not? Who we got? 1527 01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:56,960 Speaker 2: Here's the people decided on TJ McMahon of course, from 1528 01:18:57,000 --> 01:19:02,760 Speaker 2: Rice bow Nicks, anybody who watched Virginia Georgia Tech, Jayden 1529 01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:06,320 Speaker 2: Daniels and Harry Perky of course for LSU Oregon's offensive line. 1530 01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:11,160 Speaker 2: I guess everything that happened in the Big Twelve, that's 1531 01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:15,000 Speaker 2: just a whole collection of dudes there. And any team 1532 01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,080 Speaker 2: that went up fourteen to nothing and won the game, 1533 01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:19,599 Speaker 2: how about that? So no, I don't know if anybody 1534 01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:23,519 Speaker 2: is truly deserving of winning a specific dude as a 1535 01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:25,080 Speaker 2: running back in the because it was just a great 1536 01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:26,679 Speaker 2: running back day all across the board. 1537 01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:28,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, those are some of your We give you 1538 01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:30,720 Speaker 1: one to Isaiah Fosky for blocking two punts? How about that? 1539 01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:34,120 Speaker 2: Can we give it to the god? It was in 1540 01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:35,400 Speaker 2: the Who did fa you play? 1541 01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:36,280 Speaker 1: Again? You tap? 1542 01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:39,639 Speaker 2: Did you see the Roger Sherman tweet about the guy 1543 01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:41,639 Speaker 2: who blocked an extra point with his head? 1544 01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:45,480 Speaker 1: Did you see the clips that I think we retweeted 1545 01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:48,000 Speaker 1: from the Weber State long snapper. 1546 01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:51,680 Speaker 2: Oh my god, whatever an anti dude is? I mean 1547 01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:53,320 Speaker 2: that was for Yeah, that. 1548 01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:57,120 Speaker 1: Was the Max Wittock of long snapping yesterday. Holy cow, 1549 01:19:57,360 --> 01:19:58,679 Speaker 1: airmail in it left and right. 1550 01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:01,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a fun day across the board. Can't 1551 01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:02,799 Speaker 2: wait for week nine. 1552 01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:08,120 Speaker 1: Week nine is coming your way. It looks perky. I 1553 01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:11,599 Speaker 1: am excited about week nine. We will get to week 1554 01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:15,679 Speaker 1: nine in due time. In the meantime, we appreciate everybody's support. 1555 01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:19,000 Speaker 1: Don't forget to go on out to verballers dot com 1556 01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:21,480 Speaker 1: if you are ever so inclined, check out our benefits. 1557 01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:25,679 Speaker 1: If nothing more, registered to vote in the Verballer Top 1558 01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:28,280 Speaker 1: ten Pole. We've got weeks that are coming up, very 1559 01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:31,840 Speaker 1: important weeks. We're gonna need your input as we try 1560 01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:34,640 Speaker 1: to slot these teams one through ten. Here again, the 1561 01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:38,720 Speaker 1: Verballer Top ten Pole dropped every Sunday morning, round nine, 1562 01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:42,280 Speaker 1: nine thirty am Eastern Time. You also get access to 1563 01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:44,320 Speaker 1: a bunch of additional bonus perks. 1564 01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:44,519 Speaker 3: Dan. 1565 01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:47,840 Speaker 1: That is all I have. It's all I have for 1566 01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:50,519 Speaker 1: that guy there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself, 1567 01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:54,040 Speaker 1: Ty Hildebrandt, and the thousands upon thousands upon thousands of 1568 01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:57,000 Speaker 1: overballers listening and you're along at home. Thank you so 1569 01:20:57,080 --> 01:20:59,080 Speaker 1: much for your support. We'll talk to you all soon. 1570 01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:01,160 Speaker 1: Stay Solt peace,