1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: You mentioned that Meg went through what she went through 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: with Tory, you reached out. 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 2: I mean, what was your words of advice? 4 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously that's someone that you that's a very 5 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: differend to you, and she's going through something. And from 6 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: what I can read, I don't know either of the parties, 7 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: but it seemed like they didn't believe that. Like, and 8 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: I'm thinking aboutself, why is you gonna lie about somebody 9 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: shot in the foot? I mean, I mean that's Meg, 10 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: that's Meg. She don't need clout. 11 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not trying to I'm not gonna over exaggerate 12 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 3: it and say we like good friends. You know, I'm 13 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 3: not like best friends but at all, but like I'm 14 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 3: more so of a supporter, you know. And the fact 15 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 3: again we was on that double exelf freshman class. Just 16 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 3: whenever I see it's it's always good energy. And so 17 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 3: I was just like, man, you know, God always prevails. 18 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 3: And it might not even have been about the Tory 19 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 3: Lane situation. It might have been like her, she's been 20 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 3: through a lot, her losing her mother and things of 21 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 3: that nature. But just just let just just sending good 22 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 3: energy out there. That's it, Just sending good energy. 23 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: Gunna use him obviously, the Plea deal that he went through. 24 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: Have you talked when he was going through what he 25 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: was going through? I mean, man, it's kind of hard. 26 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: I mean, dude got a Rico statue hanging over his head. 27 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: You talking about a long long time. I ain't talking 28 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: about no months we talked about, well, we talk about months, 29 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: but we talk about two hundred plus months things of 30 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: that nature. 31 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: So what do you say? They try to keep the 32 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: spirits up. 33 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 3: I haven't talked to Gunner, to be honest, since like 34 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 3: the whole situation, so I haven't spoke to him. I 35 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 3: wrote Slim a letter, I wrote the a letter, but 36 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 3: now I haven't spoke the Gunner. But I wish obviously 37 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 3: prayers up for Thug. He's still in there, and I wish, 38 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 3: you know, Gunna just nothing but the best. I wish 39 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 3: him both nothing but the best. I just love to 40 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 3: see black Man succeeded, you know what I'm saying. So 41 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 3: I want to see him both excel. 42 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: And also the baby and Roddy Witch Roddy Rich. 43 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: A lot of people say, man, their music saying sounds 44 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: the same, so they're not selling like they did in 45 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: the beginning. 46 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, the baby. I wanted to bring 47 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 3: him out for Coachella too, because this is after you know, 48 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 3: the incident happened on stage, right, well you could have 49 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 3: you man, right, he had a show on. He was 50 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 3: like somewhere out the country at the time. But I 51 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 3: hit the baby because I just wanted to bring him 52 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 3: just on some like, man, we got to just brothers 53 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 3: in this thing. We got to stick together. Like, look, 54 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 3: I know what you said on stage was not the 55 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 3: brightest thing, you know what I'm saying, But like, yo, 56 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 3: like I don't, I feel like what And again it's 57 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 3: just my opinion. I could be wrong, but I felt 58 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 3: like the backlash that he got from that was just 59 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 3: like it was a little over the top. But again 60 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 3: I could be wrong, you know, but it should be 61 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 3: a learning lesson. Yeah, a lesson is a lesson. 62 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: We held to a high standard. 63 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: It's almost like a death sentence when a black person 64 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: says something. I mean, it's like it's the end of 65 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: the world. 66 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 3: For sure. 67 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 2: We held so accountable. 68 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 3: Nah, for sure. So I hit him up. I was 69 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 3: just like I'm doing coach, because you know, they took 70 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 3: him off Coachell. So I hit him up, like yo, 71 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 3: I want to bring you on stage, and he was like, man, 72 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 3: from the bottom of my heart, Like I really appreciate that, bro, 73 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 3: I'm in Europe somewhere right now, but like it meant 74 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 3: a lot to him. I had a conversation with that 75 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 3: and with Roddy. I haven't really spoken taraate like that, 76 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 3: to be honest. But again, like whenever again, I don't 77 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 3: like to over exaggerate anything. I ain't finna act like 78 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 3: I'm best friends with these and we like homeboys and 79 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 3: we grew up together. Like it's just always this mutual love, 80 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 3: just a I love to see a black man winning, 81 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 3: love to see a black woman women winning, love to 82 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 3: see everybody winning, right, And so just always just try 83 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 3: to be a light for my peers, because nobody can 84 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 3: relate to other artists, especially in a sport like hip 85 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 3: hop and music and even entertainment. Nobody can relate to 86 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 3: us more than us. So you may be able to 87 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 3: confine within me something that like your parents may not 88 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 3: even understand, or like your siblings may not understand. Even 89 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 3: if you got a therapist, they might not understand because 90 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 3: they haven't walked in those shoes. So just always try 91 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 3: to just be a light whenever I can be, because 92 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, I'm still figuring this 93 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 3: shit out too, Like I don't have all the fucking answers, 94 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 3: you know, but just try to be a light. 95 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: What's the uh the hardest part about celebrity? And I 96 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: tell what I tell people. I said, TV celebrity is 97 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: different than sports celebrity. 98 00:03:58,880 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 99 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: One thing like for me is like if I played football, 100 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: I play tight end. So if they bring another tight 101 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: end out and he's trying to get my job, he 102 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: beat me out for the job. Hey he took food 103 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: on my table, or the guy that's going against me 104 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: trying to cover me, if he covered me more time 105 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: than not, I'm gonna lose my job. He's taking food 106 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: off the table. But the tight end ain't going behind 107 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: my back telling the coach, Hey, coach, he out here 108 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: doing that, He doing that, and. 109 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 2: Stuff like that. 110 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: And that's the thing that I've learned about TV is 111 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: that people that man met. 112 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 3: Man listen, that's see me. I don't. And that's the 113 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 3: one thing within the entertainment space that's like this weird 114 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,799 Speaker 3: because I don't know how to halfway fuck with somebody. 115 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 3: Like even like before when we bringing up people, I'll 116 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 3: be like, man, I ain't gonna over exaggerate, like I'm 117 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 3: best friends, but it's love, and I keep it at that. 118 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 3: So if I say I rock with you, when I 119 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 3: say like this here is my dog, like this is 120 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 3: my real friend, like in real life, this is my brother. 121 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 3: That's my sister in real life, like this is my 122 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 3: man's in real life, then I'm rocking with you to 123 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 3: the wheels fall off. Whether the world love you, the 124 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 3: world hatre, I'm rocking with you all the way. I 125 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 3: don't know how to mess with people, how to fuck 126 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 3: with people halfway? You get what I'm saying. I don't 127 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 3: know how to like I know how to draw a 128 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 3: line between like it's still love. I'm rooting for you, 129 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 3: but we're still peers at the end of the day 130 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 3: versus like, no, we done met through this entertainment thing. 131 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 3: But you my I consider you a close friend of mine. 132 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 3: I'm inviting you at my house to the cookout. He 133 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 3: done met my mother. You know, things of that nature. 134 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,799 Speaker 3: So I don't know how to halfway rock with people. 135 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,119 Speaker 3: So when I sense things of just like funny acting 136 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 3: and things of that nature, I withdraw all the way back. 137 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 3: You know. So that's what I can't teller. 138 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: But I look at it like this, Okay, man, I 139 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: don't rock with Corday Okay, I don't rock with cordae Man. 140 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: Cordy Man. A y'all trying to do something with Corday Man. 141 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 3: He'll sucker man. 142 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: That's my point. That's my point. 143 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: If you don't rock with me, why you trying to 144 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: inhibit what I'm trying to do. 145 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 2: You don't rock with me with. 146 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 3: So leave it. Like hey, if it's somebody I'm wrong 147 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 3: with a man's highway, don't cross with my lane. 148 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: I ain't in your lane. 149 00:05:58,680 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 3: Just keep it going. 150 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,119 Speaker 1: If we go hun minds and we just don't cross 151 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: the lanes. Yeah, so that's what I'm like. And then 152 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: to see that actually happen and the dude like, you know, 153 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: a a man shop like bro stop it. 154 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 155 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 3: I feel like it's a lot of pandering that goes 156 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 3: on to you know, like even with like a lot 157 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 3: of music reviewers like I. Again, everybody's entitled to their 158 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 3: own opinion. It's a necessary thing. But I feel like 159 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 3: a lot of like music reviewers and I rock with Fantano. 160 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 3: I think he's like pretty dope, pretty thorough and it's 161 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 3: a lot of other thorough podcasts and things of that 162 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 3: nature that does music reviews in that far I believe. 163 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 3: But a lot of these in a far as dope, 164 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 3: but a lot of music reviewers they've pander to a 165 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 3: certain audience. That makes sense, Like they know a certain 166 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 3: sound that their audience likes, they know a certain artists 167 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 3: or type of artists that they audience like, so they 168 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 3: just want to pander to them like, oh yeah, this 169 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 3: is an incredible when they may not even think that. 170 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 3: So I think that's like selling your soul. 171 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 2: In a way. My bad. 172 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 3: That might've been a far right high related that to that, 173 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 3: but yeah, just moving with snaw. Man, it's just different, bro. 174 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 3: Like they'll smeile you in the face like man, man man, 175 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 3: Cordy Man, you a great guy. 176 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 2: Man. 177 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 3: It's all love family. Like people use that family word. 178 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 3: Well use they be like, hey man, all love family. 179 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, love bruh. 180 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 2: They call you broh. The call hey that's my brother. 181 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,239 Speaker 3: People use brother so loose. 182 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 2: Man. 183 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 3: I don't like they like brother. I'm like, you gotta 184 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 3: watch out for that nigga right there, straightened up. 185 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 2: You know. 186 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 3: It's different, like oh, yeah, what up brother, you know 187 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 3: like black man and black man. But it's like, oh 188 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 3: that's my brother and brother. You killing me man when 189 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 3: I use that man that's my brother. Where I mean 190 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 3: that like a man? Anybody talking about you around me 191 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 3: like I'm feeling like off, shut it off? Like now 192 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 3: you mentioned my brother, Like nah, man, that's my brother 193 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 3: in real life. 194 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: Even if he's not my brother. If somebody is having 195 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: a conversation about somebody and I have not had that 196 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: experience with that individual, what about I don't have anything 197 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: to add to the conversation. So bro, just exclude me 198 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: because if we're having a conversation, I want to be 199 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: a part of it. But if you're talking bad about 200 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: somebody because you have a negative experience with them and 201 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: I have not had no negative experience, I can't talk 202 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: because there's a conversation that I can't join in. If 203 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: we're not having a conversation, a conversation should be between 204 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: you and I. 205 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, he's a sucker for real, man, let me 206 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 3: tell you what he did to me. 207 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 2: But if here, if I don't have that experience. 208 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, so now what do you do? 209 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: Right? 210 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 3: And this is a question, like let's say you hear 211 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 3: two people talking somebody you moderately cool about they talking trash. 212 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 3: Do you go back to that person or you just 213 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 3: keep it to yourself? Keep it absolutely because now I've 214 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 3: got nothing to do with it. One but if. 215 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: It's my dog, I already know how you moving, though, Yeah, 216 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: I already know how you moving. 217 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 3: May Listen, I be so aware. I watch the words 218 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 3: I using what I say around people so much. It's like, oh, 219 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 3: I already see It'll be certain managers be talking about 220 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 3: they are telling all their artists business. I'm like, oh, 221 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 3: I can't tell you nothing, because. 222 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: If you're telling their business, I already know what you're 223 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 1: gonna do to me. 224 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 3: Man. Listen, I'll be hearing even other artists talking junk 225 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 3: with about other artists and I'm like, yeah, man, I'm like, oh, 226 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 3: I ain't telling They be like yeah, man, he's spends 227 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 3: that's as much on such or such and he really 228 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 3: like not even having it for I'm like, oh, I 229 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 3: can't tell you a single now, I can't tell you 230 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 3: my last name. I can't chatty Patty's is the worst. 231 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 3: That's the main thing in this business. Can everybody just 232 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 3: talk so much? 233 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 2: Can you talking about they grown? 234 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 3: Grown men too. The men be worse than women. You 235 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 3: would the off for real, Like people be talking just check. 236 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, like, just shut up talking, bro Like. 237 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 3: I don't even like when somebody talking too much. I'm 238 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 3: just like, bro like, keep that, bro, get away. I 239 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 3: just put on my headphone. 240 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: You know what, I guess we experience. We have gone 241 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: through some of the same. I like to rap, like 242 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: you say, I've made seven millions and I have to 243 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: do a single show. How have you been able to 244 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: continuously make money outside the music business? 245 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,719 Speaker 3: Just you know, obviously, and you know it's funny. I 246 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 3: kind of regret saying that line because it wasn't like whatever, 247 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 3: But I say this to say, it's so many other avenues, 248 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 3: other you know, live shows are That's like, that's a 249 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 3: great source of income, and it's the easiest for me 250 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 3: because I'm doing what I love and getting paid that. 251 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 3: But when the pandemic happened, you had to be I was. 252 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 3: It was a blessing in disguise to the point where 253 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 3: I've become more cognitive and aware of the business side 254 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 3: of the music. That's when the YBN thing happened. Because 255 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 3: I was able to really sit and like look at 256 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 3: things and just be like bro, and you know, had 257 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 3: that coment with I mean like bro, like this is 258 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 3: like this is not it? And again that was like 259 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 3: the main reason. It was obviously other small trinkets, but 260 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 3: that was the main reason. But going back to the 261 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 3: original point was just like the blessing of the pandemic 262 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 3: was I was able to like be more cognitive and 263 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 3: aware of business, okay, be more open to like okay, 264 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 3: learning about real estate, learning about stocks and bonds, accept 265 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 3: IRA accounts, Wrath accounts, open up ubs, private equity firms. Think, 266 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 3: just learning and being more receptive and open to information, 267 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 3: being more aware of like my brain. That's why I 268 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 3: came up with high level like how I want my 269 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 3: music videos to be, how I want to be approached 270 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 3: and seen visually. One of the bad things about the pandemic, 271 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 3: I think I became even more of an overthinker. But 272 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 3: that's a whole other story. It give me too much time. 273 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 3: I think it gave me enough time to think to 274 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 3: where Okay, I got to get my business together, I 275 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 3: got to become more proactive when it comes to business. 276 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 3: But also maybe over the absolutely and. 277 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 2: So sometimes you can be a prison of your own thoughts. 278 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 3: Absolutely after the I don't mind as the devil's playground. 279 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 3: Like Grandma say, so I love your granddad's quotes. By 280 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 3: the way your granddad got I'll be like, oh, yeah, 281 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 3: that's that southern you know, I grew up in that 282 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 3: southern you know, that North Carolina. 283 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 2: Same thing. 284 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 3: So I got a lot of the same stuff. But 285 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 3: you know, again, being open to a Tan talk before 286 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 3: the pandemic, I wasn't. I wasn't even been thinking of 287 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 3: a Ted talk, which opened so many lanes for me, 288 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 3: Like I can get paid now to do public speaking, 289 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 3: to do motivational speaking at college is the world. I 290 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 3: don't even got to pay let's say a show I 291 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 3: get paid two hundred grand I still got to pay 292 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 3: for flights, hotels and not saying that's the number, but 293 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 3: just using that as a ball park. I still got 294 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 3: to play fights hotels. I invest in my show. I 295 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 3: play with a love fans. I got my own lighting 296 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 3: rig that we ship over. We got that's lighting program, 297 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 3: we got a video wall screen. I got the best 298 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 3: mic system. You know. 299 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 4: I invest in my show, so the time all that 300 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 4: show exactly and again that's not the exact number, but 301 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 4: you get what I'm saying, especially if you're a real artist, 302 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 4: because I care more about performing a great show versus 303 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 4: some people. 304 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 3: They get that two hundred theysed to be them and 305 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 3: their DJ. They're gonna walk away. But they done messed 306 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 3: up their hard ticket sales because it's like I could 307 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 3: have just sat at home listen this shit in the 308 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 3: car radio. So I say that's to say me being 309 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 3: more proactive and realizing it's brand opportunities. I can. You 310 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 3: know I have a you know this my Puma High 311 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 3: Level again shameless plug. This is my shoot right here. 312 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 3: We gotta get you a pair of these too. You 313 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 3: know I call these the JANKI y all blacks. You 314 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like they got a different colors. 315 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 2: All black, I mean, yeah, I got. 316 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 3: Never, I got you, they got gray red. I can 317 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 3: see you some unexclusive release joints. You made me past the. 318 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 2: All black walking around all black hue at fifty five. 319 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm still in a little jankie phase of my life. 320 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 3: Whenever I gotta get gritty, nitty gritty, you know, like man, 321 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 3: it's producer man. We gotta put the ski mask on, 322 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 3: throw you all blacks on. You know these my sneakers 323 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 3: right here though, but shameless plug. But you know, me 324 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 3: being able to do things with you know, Puma and 325 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 3: and all of these different brands. So it's so many 326 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 3: I think that's the blessing now of hip hop. Like 327 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 3: I was in a super Bowl commercial. I was in 328 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 3: a Coca Cola super Bowl commercial. Bro, if this is 329 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 3: the eighties nineties, you gotta be the biggest artists in 330 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 3: the world in order to get in a Coca Cola commercial. 331 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 3: Nonetheless a Coca Cola super Bowl commercial. But me still 332 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 3: being successful. I'm not the biggest artist in the world, 333 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 3: but I was able to be in a super Bowl 334 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 3: commercial with Martin Scorsese and Jonah Hill. So I think 335 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 3: that's the beauty of hip hop now. It's so many 336 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 3: different avenues, so many different streams of income. Like again 337 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 3: we were saying, you can do a brand deal. There's 338 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 3: equity plays that you can play the word like, nah, 339 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 3: I'm good on the money, but let me get a 340 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 3: percentage a percentage of that you can so many I 341 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 3: have a call a week while I get pre IPO 342 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 3: investments toward people. Okay, you can put this amount of 343 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 3: or you ain't got putting money down if you sponsor 344 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 3: this company, we'll give you a percentage of the company. 345 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 3: And then five to seven years from now, when we 346 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 3: sell this company to a Google or a larger company, 347 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 3: you done x ten your percentage because versus let's say 348 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 3: give me a million dollars, they just give me ten 349 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 3: percent of the company, and so when they sell that 350 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 3: company now it's worth times ten. I just made ten 351 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 3: million dollars, right, So it's just so many opportunities that 352 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 3: it's a blessing for. 353 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 2: How did you decide the record deal that was right 354 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 2: for you. 355 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 3: At the time, Man, I didn't really do too much decided. 356 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 3: With my initial deal, it wasn't really too much deciding 357 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 3: that I had to do, if if that makes sense, 358 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 3: you get what I'm saying. But with a major label deal, 359 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 3: just me sitting down with different partners, Sylvia Browne, she 360 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 3: was amazing. So again, with like that initial deal, it 361 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 3: wasn't really too much deciding going on, if that makes sense, 362 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 3: you know, just like it is what it is exactly 363 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 3: to an extent, but whatever, that's a whole different story. 364 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 3: But with my major label deal, I think Atlantic, Julie Craig, Kaza, Success, Dallas, 365 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 3: all of them was just the energy that was in 366 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 3: the room at the time. You know, it was just 367 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 3: a lot of energy going on. And they hustlers and 368 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 3: they like grinding, you know, they like bringing in that work. 369 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 3: And so I just like to be in an environment 370 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 3: to where like I'm a priority. I love to go 371 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 3: because a lot of even not just with a major label, 372 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 3: you'll notice it with like an agent or a lawyers, 373 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 3: a business manager. What they do they name drop. They'll 374 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 3: be like, oh, yeah, we represent this person, this person. 375 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 3: They think they gonna get you just because they got 376 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 3: all these other big names. But it's like, I'd rather 377 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 3: go to where I am a priority, where I love, 378 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 3: versus what I'm just ext name on the roster for 379 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 3: you to go to other clients and get them because 380 00:15:58,200 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 3: you use it my name. So I'd rather go to 381 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 3: where I'm a priority and I'm love. 382 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: You know, I read where is it true that you 383 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: live with your manager as you as you are a millionaire, 384 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: you'd have made millions and you living with your manager? 385 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, y'all, I was living with my manager. Yeah, yeah, man, listen, dog, 386 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 3: I was just that was a to to over extent. 387 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 3: But but yeah, I had I definitely had a million 388 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 3: dollars in my bank account. Was living in with a manager, 389 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 3: sleeping on this couch. His girlfriend was pregnant at the time. 390 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 2: I was going to the student, you live with yourself, Hey, 391 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 2: it was pretty good. 392 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 3: Look at that that bank account. I was like, then, 393 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 3: on me to night y'all. I know, me to night y'all. 394 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 2: But I did the same thing. I lived with my grandmother. 395 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: I lived in the back in the house that my 396 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: brother and I got for my grandmother, and I was 397 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: a million had a Ferrari park that side of But 398 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: I woke up on like, man, I'm still living in 399 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: my grandma still back. 400 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 3: One day, I woke up my bad to cut you off. 401 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 3: I woke up that couch wasn't hitting like it was 402 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 3: supposed to. I'm like, let me get a spot. And 403 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 3: then I was still figuring out if I even wanted 404 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 3: to get a spot in that area, you know. So 405 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 3: it was it was a shout out to him. 406 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: What's been your sense? You you've made some money, what's 407 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: been your favorite? What's the favorite? What's your favorite purchase? 408 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 3: H probably buying real estate, buying my mom a car, 409 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 3: taking care of family, you know, just like and not 410 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 3: like taking care of taking care because I don't want 411 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:19,479 Speaker 3: to make it seem like my whole family just like here, 412 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 3: what you're gonna do for me? But just like being 413 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 3: able to be a blessing the others, you know, like 414 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 3: truly like that what really feels me like being able 415 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 3: to be like, oh we can do this. 416 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 2: How do you know? 417 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: Not to how many blessings to hand out? Because sometimes 418 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: you know you could, they can thank you a god 419 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: like figure just like the blessings are unlimited. 420 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I treated. I got great advice from Jake 421 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 3: Cole from that treated like credit. You know what I'm saying. 422 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 3: It's like, okay, you don't borrow from the bank. If 423 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 3: you ain't pay off your loan or whatever the case 424 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 3: may be, you six you into five hundreds now. But 425 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 3: then also just not and not only blessings that were 426 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 3: able to present are just money. A lot of the times, 427 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 3: the biggest blessing we able to present is opportunity. Get 428 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 3: let you get your foot in the door due to this, 429 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 3: because of I've done kick the door down for us. 430 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 3: So learning to plant those type of seeds in fertile 431 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 3: ground versus planting seeds and infertile ground where you just 432 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 3: keep having the planet. Keep pouring your water in it, 433 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 3: but nothing's coming out of it. And so just investing 434 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 3: in people that's gonna make the most out of the 435 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 3: opportunity versus people that's like entitled and just gonna do 436 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 3: like the absolute bare minimum versus people like yo. Cause 437 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 3: I feel like gratitude is just so important. Man Like 438 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 3: even when somebody take care of my dinner, I'm like, man, 439 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 3: I appreciate you. I'm starting to learn, not even learn, 440 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 3: but just show gratitude at the highest level. Like I've 441 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 3: always had gratitude, never have again. We raised in the South, 442 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 3: we say please and thank you for everything, always that gratitude. 443 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 3: But now I'm appreciative for just this tiny man, the 444 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 3: fact I done have a dag gonna escalate, had to 445 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 3: come and pick me up from the house to bring 446 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 3: me here. That's a blessing, you get what I'm saying. 447 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 3: So being appreciative of what we almost consider small things 448 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 3: but so huge. So just having people around, that's one 449 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 3: grateful for the opportunity gratitude. Don't gotta get down your 450 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 3: hands and knees every day now, but just sometimes you 451 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 3: show appreciation with your actions as well. So that's one 452 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 3: thing I'm really learning is learning how to plant seeds 453 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 3: and other people and give them opportunities for fertile ground, 454 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 3: because that's worth a lot more than just sending you 455 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 3: a wire. 456 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: You know, Have you had any purchases that you regret, Like, damn, 457 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 1: why not buy that that was so unnecessary? 458 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 3: I bought a house in Atlanta. Yeah, yeah, and I 459 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 3: know long term it's gonna be good. But man, I 460 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 3: had a car out there too. I had a house 461 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 3: and a car, and you know, thankfully, I'm super blessed. 462 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 3: Like I own houses in different states, some for rental 463 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 3: properties and some just for whenever I go back home. 464 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 3: I got somewhere to stay. So I bought something in Atlanta, 465 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 3: a crib in Atlanta, a nice crib to a super 466 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 3: nice crib. Had a card house just out there. But 467 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 3: I am never in Atlanta as much as I thought 468 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 3: I was gonna be, And so I just shipped my 469 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 3: car actually back in DC to where I I'm out 470 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 3: there a lot. So I'm just like, you know, I'm 471 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 3: just sitting on his car, you know. But it's a 472 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 3: blessing though. I won't even look that as a bad purchase, 473 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 3: cause it's still real estate. I can always sell it. 474 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 3: I can always do whatever it's whenever I got family 475 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 3: in time. My mom don't live too far from Atlanta, 476 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 3: she go just stay there, et cetera. So I won't 477 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 3: even call that a bad purchase. 478 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 2: You ain't had no jewelry, no wide, no car. 479 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 3: No. To be honest, I haven't been like suit like 480 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 3: you know this is paddic Philip. Maybe I can always 481 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 3: get my bread back, you know what I'm saying for 482 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 3: this now, this is a gift actually, But I don't 483 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 3: really think I've spent like too much outlanded stuff. Cause 484 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 3: even on clothes, like you look good, you feel good, 485 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,719 Speaker 3: you feel good, you do good, you do good, they 486 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 3: pay good. And then also that's a business expense. It's 487 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 3: a rite off. I can't really think about bad money, 488 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 3: cause it's even if I spent like say you go 489 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 3: to the strip club one night, you drop five it, 490 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 3: it would never be a a outlanded ShaSS price, you 491 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 3: know when you go to the club, but you go 492 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 3: like ca SEEO, I'm a drop five hundred dollars maximum. 493 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like I go to the club, 494 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 3: I've never spent a dollar. No, no, no, I'll be 495 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 3: playing the Roulette tables twenty five dollars minimums. I'm going 496 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 3: I ain't dropping too much on Listen, I bet on 497 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 3: myself like I like even on certain music videos like it. 498 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 3: Label will be like, okay, based on our projections, amount 499 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 3: of views we think this video gonna do, We're gonna 500 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 3: get you seventy five thousands of his budget, but the 501 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 3: creative plan that I have the video costs two hundred 502 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 3: thousand and so I'll spend out of my own pocket 503 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 3: the difference in that one hundred twenty g's on a video. 504 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 3: But I look at that as investing within my brand, 505 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 3: within my career, within how I'm presented my visuals. Wanna 506 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 3: give the fans a great video. So honestly, man, I'm 507 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 3: not gonna lie. I haven't made like too much, like 508 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 3: really dumb purchases. 509 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: On your first tour year with Juice World, and you 510 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: see a lot of these young rappers dying, some he odeed, 511 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: and then you see a young dolf get killed and 512 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: you see pop pop smoke. 513 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 2: What I mean when you when you see that, you're 514 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 2: like my age, Yeah, not for real. 515 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 3: Especially Juice really hit me home because this was this 516 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 3: is my brother, Like for real like remember that combo 517 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 3: we hadn't Like, yeah, this was my brother in real life. 518 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 3: So again my first tour ever. I was on tour 519 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 3: opening up for Juice World, and this is his first 520 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 3: tour ever too. Like ever, this both of our first 521 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 3: time hitting the stage during the tour, and at that time, 522 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 3: I didn't have anything. I was on his me and 523 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 3: my homies. It was on his bus and it was 524 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 3: only me and my boy Day and my DJ. But 525 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 3: we're on his bus. We ain't even have enough money 526 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 3: for our own sprinter van. So we on his bus 527 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 3: with him and his team. It was that and I 528 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 3: realized through touring now, like that is not normal at all, 529 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 3: Like it's like Openers, y'all got your own thing, Headliners, 530 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 3: We got our own thing. And so I'm with this 531 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 3: fool every day. We having conversations about God, about life, 532 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 3: about family, about me. We free We love the freestyle. 533 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 3: So we freestyling all day for six hours, just every 534 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 3: single day. And so we even so that was the 535 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 3: genesis of the relationship. And we always kept in touch, 536 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 3: talked to him, call him on Thanksgiving. How family doing 537 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 3: like this is like my real life brother, Like we 538 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 3: probably kicked I'll pull up on his full house five 539 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 3: hundred times. We only made one song, Like it wasn't 540 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 3: even about the music, Like he a superstar. This man 541 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 3: is a superstar. You know what I'm saying at the time, 542 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 3: But this is my man pulling out, pulling up on 543 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 3: his house. Man we watching anime I fall asleep on 544 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 3: his full couch, wake up in the morning. You know 545 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. It's like that this is my real 546 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 3: life homie. And so when he passed, I was I 547 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 3: was in Dubaio on the flight from Dubai and just 548 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 3: woke up when I landed and got the news. I'm 549 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 3: just like, bro, what like shed a tear for my 550 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 3: Like this is again, this is my real friend. I 551 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 3: just talked to him a week before for Thanksgiving and 552 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 3: we was talking about this music because we did a song. 553 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 3: We was talking about the music video cause he called me. 554 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 3: He had this concept for this music video that he had. 555 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 3: He was like, Yo, what if we did it? Like 556 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 3: there was a double XLF freshman freestyle? Cause he skipped 557 00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:59,959 Speaker 3: out on that class he did. He turned it down. 558 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 3: He was like, what if we did a double ExLF 559 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 3: freshman freestyle? And I put out a life saber and 560 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 3: I start like destroying all y'all whatever, So I say 561 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 3: this say we was talking about the music video concept 562 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 3: and then just life about God like spirituality, just like 563 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 3: we talk about any and everything, bro, make jokes like 564 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 3: talk about like every and anything, bro. So matter of fact, 565 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 3: it's funny. My first time at Coachella, I just want 566 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 3: to Coachella to watch him perform. Okay, you get what 567 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 3: I'm saying. Like me as an artist, like usually you 568 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,719 Speaker 3: ain't going to no festival or nothing like that if 569 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 3: you're not performing. But I'm going there because it's my 570 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 3: boys first time at Coachella, support him, my first time 571 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 3: at Jimmy Fallon. I was going there watching him like 572 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 3: I'm with this, this is my mans. You get what 573 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 3: I'm saying. So I was really affected by that. That 574 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 3: really like hurt me a lot. As far as Dolphin, 575 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 3: Pop Smoke and P and B. It's just like it's 576 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 3: just it's just horrible, man, Like it's just horrible to 577 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 3: see so many people, y'all. Havene made it out the hood? 578 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 3: Like pop Smoke killed me cause he killed in Beverly Hills. Man, 579 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 3: he done made it out the hood, made it out 580 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 3: the trenches. Out of these environments, being able to be 581 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 3: that guy that break generational curses with the people that 582 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 3: breaking generational curses in our family, kicking down them doors, 583 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 3: opening up opportunities for everybody, and then to be slain, 584 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 3: you know. And that's why I move like super private 585 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 3: now to where like nobody's at my house unless it's 586 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 3: like just knocked down family. I don't never threw no 587 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 3: parties at any of my homes in any of the 588 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 3: states homes, and like nobody there, you know, Like it's 589 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 3: just just a lot of even with my family. I 590 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 3: just got on my little brother for coming to time, 591 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 3: like hey, bro, don't just pop up Yeah not not no, 592 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 3: you can pop up whenever, but don't post nothing inside 593 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 3: my house, you know what I'm saying. Like that's a 594 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 3: real I'm real adamant about that, you know. So just 595 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 3: just safety, man, that's it just really a wake up call, 596 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 3: like man, I really gotta move. And and me being 597 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 3: where I'm front, me being from the hood, I'm always man. 598 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 3: My mom always tell me, I remember when the Beach's 599 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 3: headphones came out, She's like, don't be walking around the 600 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 3: neighborhood with them headphones. And because she caught me walking 601 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 3: on time ten years old, eleven, twelve years old. 602 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 2: Whatever. 603 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 3: She's like, what you're doing walking around this neighborhood man 604 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 3: with both of your headphones and take one of them 605 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 3: headphones out, man like look around, like stop, be aware 606 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 3: of your surroundings. I learned that very young, especially having 607 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 3: a young mom who a single mom, you know, so 608 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 3: I got I always was like super aware, but now 609 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 3: it just heightened that. 610 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: You know, how have you been able to avoid the 611 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: pitfalls of being a celebrity? You know, drugs are very 612 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: commonplace and the entertainment in your business. Obviously you have 613 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: a lady now, so women aren't the things, But how 614 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: are you able to navigate the pitfalls that comes along 615 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 1: with celebrity? 616 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 3: Just balance? You know, maybe I'm not quite that famous 617 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 3: yet to where you know, cause I can't speak for 618 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 3: like a super a list, you know, but for me 619 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 3: for like the level of where I'm at, not saying 620 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 3: I ain't no, ain't no bum you know what I'm yeah, yeah, 621 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 3: for y'all doing my thing, but just remain trying my 622 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 3: best to remain grounded, trying to keep good people around 623 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,239 Speaker 3: me that that's not afraid to tell me, like if 624 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 3: I'm slipping, if I'm wrong, and if i'm you know, 625 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 3: on the wrong path, and things of that nature. So 626 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 3: keeping good people around me, keeping again everybody around me 627 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 3: that's gonna keep it a hundred with me, And and 628 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 3: and just also realizing I'm responsible for me. I got 629 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 3: to take accountability. And it's just like, man, we get 630 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 3: this far to just fuck it up, you know, we 631 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 3: here to take this even further. We're gonna here to 632 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 3: take this to new heights, the new levels, higher levels, 633 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 3: high level, you know. And so I realized will come 634 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 3: with that and just being responsible. 635 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: You know what, bankstream artists, what what was the person 636 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 1: that gave you your first your first opportunity like to 637 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: be on a collab with. 638 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 3: Him hmm at the time, Chance, chance to rapper, Chance 639 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 3: the rapper for sure, Like he's still to this day, 640 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 3: he's a huge brand, huge artist, right, So him giving 641 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 3: me that that song with bad Idea was just like 642 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,239 Speaker 3: a huge blessing at that And funny enough, I'm at 643 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 3: him at that Coachella meeting with Juice. Juice, you get 644 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. 645 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: So so a lot of times when you a lot 646 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: of times when you were going to these events the 647 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: Southwest and you going to these different places. 648 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 2: It was like networking. 649 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the way I looked at it, because I've 650 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 3: been making music. Bro, I've been wanting to be rappers. 651 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 3: I was ten years old. I've been making music almost 652 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 3: every day or like knowing, like this is what I'm 653 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 3: doing in my free time, whatever second hour I got. 654 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 3: I'm making music since I was fifteen years old. So 655 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 3: I've been perfecting the craft and I'm still perfecting it, 656 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,239 Speaker 3: still getting better, still got new levels to get as 657 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 3: far as creativity goes. But I was just like, yo, 658 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 3: I'm making all of this music, but I gotta really 659 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 3: build relationships, man, cause I can just keep dropping this song, 660 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 3: but I gotta really I realized how important, you know, 661 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 3: networking was and building relationships long lasting ones was so 662 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 3: But yeah, Chance was definitely the first like major artist 663 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 3: that gave me that look. And he flew me and 664 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 3: my homies out to Chicago, flew a SSA all our 665 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 3: first class this before and I was still I was 666 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 3: popping at the time. I was up, but I wasn't 667 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 3: flying first class. We're still that new artist, you know. 668 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 3: It's still okay. If I sit in Roll thirty, you 669 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 3: get what I'm saying. So he flew me and my 670 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 3: homies out first class, got us in the fire Host 671 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 3: five star hotel. And again, I'm an artist, but I'm 672 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 3: still member. I'm having a million in my count I'm 673 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 3: living with my manager at the time, so I ain't 674 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 3: staying in the fire Star hotel. I'm not flying myself 675 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 3: first class. 676 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: So that you're still in an ASPIRCT hotel. Boy, you 677 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: hope up, no bad on Popper. 678 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,479 Speaker 3: Listen, it's JANKI wanky yanky. 679 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: Mean, I'm looking at some of the people that you've 680 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: been on with Stevie Wonder m d Wayne Common nods, grout, 681 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: you may whiz, Chris Brown, Mee Young Young, Thudd Gunner, 682 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: Q Tip, Little Dirk Anderson pack Chance. 683 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, so who were you most surprised? Like you for real, 684 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 2: you gonna hop on there, you gonna hop on this. 685 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 3: With nobody, To be honest, was a surprise because when 686 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 3: you got confidence in yourself, like and not on no 687 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 3: cocky stuff, but it was just like it was a 688 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 3: I'm still grateful for it. It's still like, yo, wow, 689 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 3: that's crazy. And Anderson again, this is my brother. You 690 00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I done kicked it with Anderson 691 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 3: a million before we did a record. So that's why 692 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 3: our records always come across so easy, so easy going, 693 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 3: and it's such a blessing. But I think M was 694 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 3: definitely like cause he's just like just so huge and 695 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 3: obviously he he's a goal to everybody, just listed right 696 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 3: its goals. And it's a blessing because it's like some 697 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 3: people say, you all who you align yourself with, you know, 698 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 3: or A And sometimes that gives me the confidence when 699 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 3: I'm talking to a Wayne or a M or you 700 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 3: know so many other uh great artists that like just 701 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 3: have shown me love along the way when I'm doubting 702 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 3: myself and I'm like having imposter syndrome and just again 703 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 3: just doubt myself in a bad headspace. When they give 704 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 3: me a call and be like, y'all, I love what 705 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 3: you're doing and et cetera. Give me good advice, and 706 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 3: the fact that they just call me a text me 707 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 3: is still like a blessing, Like man, like I am supposed, ma, 708 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 3: i am supposed to be here. It gives me a confidence, 709 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 3: you know, like man, I am supposed to be here. 710 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 3: But when I got that call from M, it's just 711 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,239 Speaker 3: like oh like yo, like whoa, that's still m bro 712 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 3: Like that's crazy. 713 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 2: Who haven't you work with that you would like to? 714 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 3: I don't know, to be honest, man, hmm may Kareem 715 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 3: Bailey Ray. Okay, this song on some like just different 716 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 3: super artistic vibes. But Michael Jackson, I love to do 717 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 3: a song, Michael Jackson. If I get them files. You know, 718 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 3: if I can get them files, we can make it happen. 719 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 3: I can make it happen. Hey, we're gonna make a Look. 720 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: How about this if you said you turned down ninety 721 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: percent of the songs that you asked to be on, Yeah, 722 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: why is that rate so high? 723 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 3: I think that was at my overthinking stage if that, 724 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 3: remember I told you pandemic I got time to think, 725 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 3: but I was just overthinking. So some things I'll just 726 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 3: be overthinking versus now is just like, Okay, if I 727 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 3: love this song, no matter how big or small, and 728 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 3: it makes sense, then I'm gonna do it. 729 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 2: You know. 730 00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 3: If I love the song and I like the song, 731 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 3: I'm gonna just do it. You know, that's what's most 732 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 3: important to me. So going back to that number of 733 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 3: like me saying no, the most stuff and two huge names. 734 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 3: Some names you'll be like, are you dumb? You know, 735 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 3: but it just comes out to me as an artist, 736 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 3: like you can't in the studio, I can't think with 737 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 3: a business mind. I try not to think like on 738 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 3: a business mind or a money level. You get know 739 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I just try to make it just 740 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 3: purely creative, because that's the pure part of it. And 741 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 3: maybe that's not the best thing or not the greatest thing. 742 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 3: But I feel like when the music it just got 743 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 3: to strike me creatively, or I'm inspired to write something 744 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 3: by it, you know, it's okay, I love this song. 745 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 3: Let me see what paint I can add to this 746 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 3: portrait more. 747 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 2: Do you like when blogs tweet your album selves? 748 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 3: Now? I think it's it's just the time that went in, 749 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 3: because even though I was doing that in the nineties 750 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 3: and the two thousands, but I just think today one 751 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 3: Sometimes they be wrong, right last time they said I 752 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 3: did nineteen K, but I did like twenty five K. 753 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 3: But I'm not finna tweet and be like, man, y'all 754 00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 3: got me wrong. I ain't do twenty thousand first week, 755 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 3: the twenty five thousand first week. You know, I ain't 756 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:03,959 Speaker 3: gonna do that because it is what it is, right, 757 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 3: But and I just care more about my hard ticket sales, 758 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 3: you know. And I did my even with my last album. 759 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 3: It was a ten song conscious album, you know, so 760 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 3: it wasn't like most people's songs. They're doing twenty song 761 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 3: albums one hundred and seventy bpm, you know, faster paced, 762 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 3: where eight of my songs on that last of that 763 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 3: ten song album is like damn near R and B pace, 764 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 3: damn near di'angelo type paced records. And I feel like 765 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 3: a first week sale doesn't truly like represent like where 766 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 3: artists stands, because it's artists that do four times the 767 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 3: first week numbers that I do, but can't sell out 768 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 3: the venues that I'm doing. So I much rather sell 769 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 3: out the venues when I do a show and I 770 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 3: do a tour in them things selling out versus a 771 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 3: big first week number, But I'll take them both. 772 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: Into protesting you speak out of. You were arrested for 773 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: the Breonna Taylor. You're protesting in Louisville, Kentucky, outside the 774 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: home of Kentucky General Daniel Cameron. You were arrested twenty 775 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: four more and more than twenty four hours, uh wrote 776 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: defund the police at the twenty twenty uh US open 777 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: either at the protests in Minneapolis for George Boyd m Floyd, 778 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: your your significant other nel miosaka, you know she wore 779 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: the mask with the black name the Black victims of 780 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 1: police brutality. 781 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 2: He called out Kanye for being a. 782 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 1: Support Why at your age, why are we seeing more 783 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: people that look like you your age become so much 784 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: more involved in the community. 785 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 2: As far as protests speaking. 786 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 3: Out, Yeah, well my experience was a little different. Cause again, 787 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 3: like I was saying earlier, like I was ten years 788 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 3: old and my stepdad had me reading Marcus Carvey. Have 789 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 3: you read in w du Bois Thurga Marshall, Malcolm x, 790 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 3: Martin Luther. So I was young, like before the term 791 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 3: woke was a thing, right, I was quote unquote whoa 792 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 3: Like I was in middle school, elementary I was in 793 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 3: middle school, Like nah, brother, we ain't African Americans. We 794 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 3: are Africans in America, Like I literally was. I was 795 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 3: that kid in elementary school, middle school and nigga's like, man, 796 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 3: niggas shut up nigga. Like I was that guy right 797 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 3: in elementary and middle school, like just super I always 798 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 3: love history class because I knew most of it all 799 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 3: all the way, and I was blessed again to where 800 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 3: my stepdad will always just educate me, give me these books. 801 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 3: Things of that nature. Have me watching documentaries on Africa 802 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 3: when I was ten eleven years old, to where I 803 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 3: knew Africa was in huts and villages. I knew it 804 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 3: was the most like super modern. I know Africa is 805 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 3: the largest continent on Earth when they're trying to tell 806 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 3: you it's age yet at the time, and think that 807 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 3: all life comes from Africa and all of these things. 808 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 3: And again even Black history, American history, a Philip Randolph, 809 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 3: all these good folks. So I had the information and 810 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 3: so I was again even in high school, I was 811 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 3: that same guy. In college, I was. I went to 812 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 3: the in college, I went to the Mike Brown, you know, 813 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 3: Trayvon marya protest. So this is something that's always been 814 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,320 Speaker 3: embedded within me. The only difference is now I just 815 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 3: have a platform, so it's I highlight when I do it, 816 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 3: because like even with Breonna Taylor, I didn't go there 817 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 3: with my phone now and this and that, this, and 818 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 3: I just happened to get arrested and because I'm you know, Corda. 819 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 3: It's the name about it is gonna make you know, 820 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 3: national news, et cetera, et cetera. So I just just 821 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,359 Speaker 3: always speaking like what I believe in right at the time, 822 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 3: you know. And so when I feel like something is 823 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 3: messed up, and that's the beauty of social media, it's 824 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 3: because movement police brutality is getting highlighted to it. It's 825 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,320 Speaker 3: always been going on, but now like the whole world, 826 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 3: and that was the thing about twenty twenty, the whole 827 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 3: world know what was going on in America. It's still 828 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 3: across the world. That's still going on. You know, everybody's 829 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 3: able to see it. People were being converted, you know, 830 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 3: the things of that nature more so converted to the 831 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 3: movement and understanding what's going on for just human rights, 832 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 3: you get what I'm saying. So that's the beauty of 833 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 3: social media. So it's just something that's always been like 834 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 3: embedded within me. 835 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 1: You know, I'm to ask your two part question here, 836 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,800 Speaker 1: give me your Mount Rushmore rappers and then give me 837 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore of this generation rappers. So I want you 838 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: to go to the go the Mount Rushmore rappers who 839 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: you think are the best of all time, and then 840 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,240 Speaker 1: you give me your four of this generation? 841 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 3: Okay, uh Jay z Okay, Kanye West, Kanye Nas nods 842 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 3: and I would say big L, but he, you know, 843 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 3: rest in peace. He wasn't able to live, you know 844 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 3: as long, So we can't go off for full that's 845 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 3: my personal favorite, big L. I would have to put 846 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,919 Speaker 3: him right there. I'm a big L for that top four. 847 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 3: I'm a big L for that top four. Oh Wayne, No, no, 848 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,720 Speaker 3: no Wayne, So it's Wayne in no order, Wayne Hove 849 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 3: nas And who is the fourth? Kanye West? That's my 850 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 3: top four this generation. I mean, obviously you gotta go 851 00:37:54,920 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 3: with the big three. Drake j Cole. Can Drake in 852 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 3: that fourth spot? You gotta get at the future future Nikki. 853 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 3: One of those two. 854 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,760 Speaker 2: Do you think uh Drake gonna crack that Mount Rushmore? 855 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 3: You can go thug a future of Nikki for that 856 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 3: force one of those three. I'm going thug Future Nikki. 857 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 1: Okay, since you was so your breastless, okay, give me 858 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: your give me your Mount Rushmore. 859 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:27,359 Speaker 3: Female rappers, female rappers Okay, Lauryn Hill, all she needed 860 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 3: was one album. She got the job done. I love 861 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 3: the MTV I love the TV unplug album too, Okay, 862 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:43,280 Speaker 3: Lauryn Hill, you got Nikki, you got Remy mak obviously 863 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 3: mc shan real rock saying let me see, and I'm 864 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 3: gonna be honest with you. I'm tapped into female rap, 865 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,919 Speaker 3: but I'm not. And I know the predecessors, but Mount 866 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 3: rushmore so Top four, top ten, Top four, Top four, Okay, 867 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:06,320 Speaker 3: Lauren Hill, Lauren Hill, NICKI, NICKI Remy Mammy and you 868 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 3: gotta go little Kim for the culture, just because she 869 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 3: helped expand that. 870 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 2: You know, Okay, I like I like that group. 871 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 1: I like that group. You had the Warriors game. I mean, 872 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 1: Michael B. Jordan had a very public breakup. He was 873 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 1: dating Lauren Harvey and you were at the game with 874 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: him with the news broken. They put him up. 875 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 2: I mean, what advice for me? 876 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: Did you say, bro, it's gonna be okay, and Sauna 877 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 1: shine to much the son and come up tomorrow. It 878 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 1: hurts now because it's playing out publicly. 879 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, hmm. I didn't really give any advice, 880 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 3: to be honest, Like, we just there to enjoy enjoy 881 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 3: the basketball game. To be honest, we just there, man, 882 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 3: We got got to go there on his jet. You 883 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying shout out my boy. You know 884 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,439 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. That's and again, this is my brother 885 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 3: in real life. This is my brother for real, like 886 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 3: not the this is my brother for real. So we 887 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 3: just wasn't enjoying the game, to be honest, We just 888 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,280 Speaker 3: at the game that were able to watch the Fine's 889 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,240 Speaker 3: a blessing, you know, being able to watch the finals 890 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 3: courtside watching stuff. So to be honest, it wasn't even 891 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 3: like not even trying to be political or anything. It 892 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 3: wasn't even a topic of conversation. It's just more like, 893 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 3: and we're here to watch. 894 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 2: This game, right, you're just happy to be there. 895 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 3: When that had been yeah, because you know social media 896 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 3: in the news, they can be off as far as 897 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 3: just everything. You get what I'm saying, like just might 898 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 3: have been. 899 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: Over for two months and then social media is just 900 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: getting a hold of it and then. 901 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. So yeah, it wasn't even a topic of conversation, 902 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 3: to be honest. So we just enjoyed the game. So 903 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 3: it was tight. 904 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 1: Appreciate, thank you, thank you, Glad we can finally get it. 905 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 5: There, Yes, sir, absolutely all my life, grinding, all my life, sacrifice, hustle, 906 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 5: the price. Want a slice, Got the bat? All my life, 907 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 5: grinding all my life, all my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle, 908 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,839 Speaker 5: the price, one slice the bat, all my life. 909 00:40:58,880 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 3: I been grinding all my