1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: The Action Network podcast, named best vetting podcast or radio 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: show by the Fantasy Sports and Gaming Association and the 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: number one show for the invested sports fan. 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 2: Without further ado, that's what the game's all about. Almost 5 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 2: you feel like you can't miss I'm gonna leave it 6 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 2: up there. 7 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 3: You couldn't make that if you try that again, Absolutely 8 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 3: trying to. 9 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast, NBA edition. I'm your 10 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 2: host Matt Moore, join as always by Brandon Anderson and 11 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 2: Raheem Palmer from the Action Network. 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Okay, we are 22 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 2: forty five ish percent of the way through the season. 23 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 2: The All Star break is rapidly approaching, and there are 24 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 2: four teams that I wanted to get into and talk 25 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: about their fortunes, and we're gonna do a little bit 26 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 2: of buy, sell, or hold. So obviously, if you're selling, 27 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: it means this is the best that you're going to 28 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 2: get on these teams. If you want to buy, it's 29 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 2: obviously you think that they're still low and undervalued. And 30 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: if you want to hold, obviously you're just like I'm 31 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 2: good with where I'm at. I'm staying where I'm staying, 32 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 2: put with my position in terms of if you have 33 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 2: would if you did have stock in these teams. I 34 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: want to start with the Loss Angeles Clippers. So the 35 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: Lakers have slid with Anthony Davis out, the odds for 36 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: the division have decreased, which is something we'll get to later. 37 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 2: The odds to the Clippers winning the title have gone 38 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 2: up slightly in the wake of the Lakers struggles. The 39 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: Clippers have been absolutely monstrous. They've gotten Kawhi MPG back 40 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 2: on the floor, PG is kicking it back up and 41 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 2: is playing absolutely phenomenal basketball. And yet I heard a 42 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 2: lot this week about how nobody really takes them like 43 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 2: a national podcasts about how nobody takes them seriously, which, okay, 44 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 2: that's a take. I will say from the beginning, I 45 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 2: am buying Clipper stock to the point that I think 46 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 2: I'm probably gonna grab some Clippers nets Finals matchup after 47 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 2: we get off this podcast. It's the next move for me. 48 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: I think they are being undervalued in the market, and 49 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 2: I want to buy them right now because I think 50 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 2: that the playoff loss of the Nuggets is hanging a 51 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: little too heavy over everything. Brandon, let's start with you. 52 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,399 Speaker 2: Are you buying, selling, or holding on the Clippers. 53 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I'm a hold on the Clippers. I 54 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 4: don't know them. I can't quite put my finger on it. 55 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 4: I don't disagree really with think of the things that 56 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 4: you said, and I feel that hangover from the playoffs, 57 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 4: that disappointment from last year. I see that I should 58 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 4: be looking past that, but I also feel the disappointment 59 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 4: and it's hard to look past it. And I just 60 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 4: don't know totally if I trust Kawhi and PG when 61 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 4: we get to those big moments. We've seen it occasionally, 62 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 4: but we've also seen last year's thing occasionally too. I 63 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 4: do think the Clippers are going to add a piece still. 64 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 4: I think that I've been waiting all year for Lou 65 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 4: Williams and something to go out, and I'm not totally 66 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 4: sure what that piece is. It's gonna be tough this 67 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 4: year because so many teams are in the race, but 68 00:03:55,960 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 4: I feel like the Clippers' price is about right now. 69 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 4: I still I still don't totally believe in either LA 70 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 4: team as a huge favorite. So I feel like, to me, 71 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 4: the West is kind of a coin to flip between 72 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 4: the two of them, which puts slight value on the Clippers, 73 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 4: not for me enough to buy on them. So I 74 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 4: think I'm just a hold or stay away for the 75 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 4: most part. 76 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 2: All right, Rahiem, where are you at on the Clippers? Buy? 77 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 3: Okay? See, I feel like nobody listens to me, Like 78 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 3: I mean, I just wrote gaming. 79 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: You Victory Lap. That's all I'm gonna say, is like, 80 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 2: from now on is Victory Lap. 81 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 3: Okay. I just wrote a piece on the Clippers. It 82 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 3: just dropped yesterday. I'm around five pm. I'm buying the Clippers. 83 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 3: I love the Clippers. 84 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 2: Now. 85 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 3: Last year I didn't like the Clippers because you know 86 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 3: I said this before, I didn't trust Doc Rivers to 87 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 3: you know, properly manage the minutes of Montress Harrow and 88 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 3: Lou Williams and what happened in the playoffs. Montrez Harrow 89 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 3: got to screw it. Montros Harold is gone. Doc Rivers 90 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 3: is gone. When you look at this team, Tyron Lo, 91 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 3: who has been a substantial upgrade over Doc Rivers, the 92 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 3: Clippers are making two hundred and eighty three passes a game, 93 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 3: which is twelve more than last season. They're moving the ball, 94 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 3: it's not as much heavy ice sol. Paul George is 95 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 3: just back to Paul George that we've always known. 96 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 2: Kawhi Leonard. 97 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 3: I think one of the things that people don't realize 98 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 3: about Kawhi Leonard is that he's had a degenerative quad issue. 99 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 3: So he was struggling with that over the last couple 100 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 3: of years, and you saw towards the end of the 101 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: playoffs last year that he didn't have as much lift. 102 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 3: Now this year he's a lot healthier. I think this 103 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 3: this this bench is deeper. When you look at the 104 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 3: small ball unit that they've played, Tyron Lo, who has 105 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 3: played with you know, Morrison's center. They've been destroying teams. 106 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 3: They played Rudy Gobert off the floor the other night. 107 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 3: They pretty much went on. They went on a run 108 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 3: and pretty much ended that game. And then when Lou 109 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 3: went to the small ball lineup against the Nets, it 110 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 3: pretty like they went on an they want. They basically 111 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 3: took the game from they were down nine, went on 112 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 3: a sixteen to seven run and tied the game. And 113 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 3: if they don't call that BS foul on Kawhi Leonard, 114 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 3: they might have won that game. So to me, I 115 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 3: think the Clippers and in when I look at the bench, 116 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 3: to me, the bench is better. I mean, you get 117 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 3: rid of Montrez Harrow, you get rid of Shammit. I 118 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 3: think Luke Luke Canard has been an upgrade over Shammit, 119 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 3: even though he's out of rotation. I think Lou has 120 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 3: done a good job at developing the younger players, like 121 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 3: Terrence Mann is actually a guy. Now Americ Coffee has 122 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 3: played well. The Clippers have the second best offense in 123 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 3: the league, like behind the Nets. The only offense is 124 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 3: better is the Nets their first and three point shooting percentage. 125 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 3: To me, this offense is just it. It's just too good. 126 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 3: And then look at the rest of the landscape on 127 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 3: the Western Conference. They be a favorite to any other 128 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 3: team other than the Lakers. The Jazz can't because you 129 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 3: can't have rules. Bryce O'Neill and Bojehan Bodanovich matching up 130 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 3: with Kawhi Leonard and Paul George. I think their favorite 131 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 3: over the Nuggets as well, who they had twenty point 132 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 3: leads over in every single game. And then when I 133 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 3: look at the Lakers series, it's a pick them now 134 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 3: they have You're gonna have some problems with stopping with 135 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 3: Anthony Davis, but how do the Lakers match up with them? 136 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 3: From three? And this is an older Lebron James. I'm 137 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 3: buying on the Clippers. I'm taking them at plus five 138 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 3: fifty to win the NBA title. I'm taking them at 139 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 3: plus two to seventy to win the Western Conference, and 140 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,679 Speaker 3: I'm taking them to win the Pacific Division. 141 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 2: I think this. 142 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 3: Everybody was just so hype when the Clippers last year 143 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 3: that they're letting get, They're letting get, you know, impact 144 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 3: what they feel about them this year, and I think 145 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 3: they're a much better team. 146 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 2: So your uncle's great. I never did it. Your uncle's great. 147 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 2: I will say I have a couple of qualms. One, 148 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: you put a little too much. You've done this. You 149 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 2: put a little too much on doctor feed, Like I 150 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: think that you go a little too far and thinking 151 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 2: that like DOC was the problem and Tie is like 152 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 2: the solution. I think ties flexibility, which you're showing with 153 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 2: the small ball lineups is important. Like that's a that's 154 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 2: a small upgrade, But honestly, one of the bigger things 155 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 2: that you kind of have to factor in it and 156 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 2: keep with is like the chemistry issues are not solved 157 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 2: by DOC or Tie, like they are independent and the 158 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 2: problem really gets back to Kawhi Leonards not leader. And 159 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 2: like that's that's a super narrative take right, Like that's 160 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 2: like that that's like FS one take level from me. 161 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 2: But look, if your entire if your entire uh personality 162 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 2: and archetype in the NBA is that you're the quiet 163 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 2: guy lead by example, you don't say anything the robot, 164 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,719 Speaker 2: even if you're if those are exaggerations of who you 165 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 2: are as a person, there's a big gap between that 166 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 2: and actually taking charge and being like, hey, we got 167 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 2: to do like being the vocal leader. It took him 168 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 2: until twenty and twelve to find that balance. Like even 169 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 2: in twenty eleven, Wade was still having to carry the 170 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 2: load there. It wasn't until twenty twelve that Lebron started 171 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 2: to be the one that you would see in the 172 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: pregame huddles, barking out and leading guys and inspiring them 173 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 2: that you would see him on the on the sidelines 174 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 2: really like talking to guys. It took him years to 175 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 2: manage that. And I don't know the Kawai is ever 176 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 2: going to get there, because nobody's ever demanded of him, 177 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 2: Like nobody's ever demanded that of Kawhi. It's just like, 178 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 2: you're awesome, You're the best defender in the NBA, and 179 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 2: what a lethal killer, and like, oh the quiet guy 180 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 2: so great, what a winner, Like nobody's ever actually demanded that. 181 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 3: I agree, And in Toronto, Kyle Lowry was the leader. 182 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 3: I think Brandon kind of hit it on something because 183 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 3: you know, I've been on the you know, trade Lou 184 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 3: Williams brogade for a while as well. But one of 185 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 3: the things I've realized is they can't trade Lou because 186 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 3: he's actually one of the leaders in the locker room. 187 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 2: Right, That's a problem. So that is a problem that 188 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 2: combined with I think I will say it, and also 189 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 2: they did have the twenty point leads on the Nuggets 190 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 2: and you've rightfully pointed out how much Harold was a 191 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 2: problem in that series, Like that really was the difference 192 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 2: in that series. I will just say I don't think 193 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 2: Ibaka solves their problem of like this is a big 194 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 2: thing of if he would just not play Harrol and 195 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 2: play Zoobach more like. I just kept saying this, and 196 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: it kind of bore out in Game seven. If he 197 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 2: played zubatch more Nicole, Yokiz was just gonna tear up 198 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 2: Zuboch like not as badly, but he's still gonna torch him. 199 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 2: And this, this version of Jokics this year is absolutely 200 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 2: gonna tear him up. So I still think the Nuggets 201 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 2: are a problematic matchup for them, especially with J Mike, 202 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: who's able to provide a little bit of inside intel 203 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 2: on that kind of stuff. The Nuggets are as good 204 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 2: this year, though, so I'm with you on buying. I 205 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 2: do think that they're really good. One thing I do 206 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 2: think this is kind of concerning, So I look as 207 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 2: up on cleaning the glass versus top ten offenses. Okay, 208 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 2: so the actually good offenses in the league. The Clippers 209 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 2: come in at twelve twenty second defensively versus top ten 210 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 2: offensive rating teams. That's compared with the Jazz who are 211 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 2: number one, the Lakers who are number two. You got 212 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 2: Toronto who's number five. Phoenix we're gonna talk about in 213 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 2: a second, is number six. So like the Clippers versus 214 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 2: these top level teams. Now, some of that may be 215 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 2: impacted by the like I can't sort out that number 216 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 2: from games where Kawhi and PG played, so I'm not 217 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 2: able to get an effective stable on that. I do 218 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 2: think though, that their defense hasn't you mentioned the offense. 219 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 2: The defense hasn't been quite as good this year, and 220 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 2: so that's maybe the only caveat, But I do think 221 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 2: in general, I think that they're being The big thing 222 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 2: is just that the perception for them is that the 223 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 2: Lakers are going to win the title. There's no question 224 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 2: the Clippers can't beat the Lakers, and it's like, why 225 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: would you think that when the Clippers split the season 226 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: series last year looked really good with them beat them 227 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 2: this year in the first matchup, and the Clippers didn't 228 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 2: lose to the Lakers last year. So let's go to 229 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 2: the next team I want to talk about, which is 230 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 2: the Phoenix Suns, who I think is I should call 231 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 2: them Raheem's Phoenix Suns. That's your Western Conference They I 232 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 2: think they dipped for a little bit, but they've played 233 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 2: really great over the last stretch. They're getting some very 234 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 2: quality wins and it played really consistent. They're nine and 235 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 2: one in their last ten. They won three in a row. 236 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 2: They are now fourth in the Western Conference. They are 237 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 2: just a game back of the Lakers. They are just 238 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 2: three games back. After everything the Jazz have done, the 239 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,719 Speaker 2: Suns are just three games back of the number one 240 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 2: seed in the Western Conference. That is an incredible season. 241 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 2: They've got a lot to offer on both ends. Brandon Anderson, 242 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 2: are you buying, selling, or holding on the Phoenix Suns? 243 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 4: So the Suns are the exact sort of team that 244 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 4: I talk myself into and buy and buy them out 245 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 4: low odds and look like a genius as they're sitting 246 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 4: in the Western Conference finals and then they lose in 247 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 4: six and I tear my ticket up and got nothing 248 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 4: out of it. 249 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 2: They are. 250 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 4: Last week we talked about who's your team in the East, 251 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 4: who's your sleeper that's going to come through? Could it 252 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 4: be the Pacers? And to me, the Songs are the 253 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 4: West version of that. Not that they are the same 254 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 4: as the Pacers. I think they're much better team, but 255 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 4: they've got tougher road in the way, and I could 256 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 4: see this. I like the Sons a lot. I like 257 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 4: what they're doing. I feel like Chris Paul is deferring 258 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 4: more and Devin Booker we're seeing more the Booker that 259 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 4: we expected to see. I think I'm still not totally 260 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 4: sure where Aiden fits into all of this. I think 261 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 4: they're still trying to figure that part out. But I 262 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 4: like the team. I like how it fits together. When 263 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 4: they've been healthy and actually had most of their pieces, 264 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 4: they have had a really strong bench and I think 265 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 4: that that's starting to come back again now that they've 266 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,479 Speaker 4: got you know, all their guys back through the health protocols. 267 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 4: I like this team a lot. Where I see them 268 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 4: is I could see Phoenix being something like the second 269 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 4: half Utah Jazz, where suddenly they rip off a huge 270 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 4: wind stream. They're doing really great. They're the lead conversation 271 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 4: on all the you know, all our podcasts and the 272 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 4: Jump for a couple of weeks and their odds, you know, 273 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 4: go through the roof, and at that point, I'm gonna 274 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 4: take my ticket and try to look for a buyer 275 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 4: online and sell it because that's when I'm out. I 276 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 4: don't believe still that this team is going to win 277 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 4: the last so then I don't know how to bat necessarily. 278 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 4: I could maybe talk myself into the Suns winning the division. 279 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 2: Uh Rahim, what's your are you buying, selling or holding 280 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 2: on the Suns? 281 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 3: I'm holding. I think I'm BRANDI says that they're interesting 282 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 3: when he compared them to like the Indiana Pacers. To me, 283 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 3: I kind of see them as like the Toronto Raptors 284 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 3: of like the last five, six, seven years minus twenty nineteen. 285 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 3: They're going to be a great regular season team. They 286 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 3: have all the pieces that you love. They got wings 287 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 3: like macal Bridges and Jay Crowder. You know, they can 288 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 3: hit the three. They got a good point guard, they 289 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 3: have a closer and Devin Booker. But this team is young. 290 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 3: They don't have a lot of playoff experience, so I 291 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 3: expect them to really dominate the regular season. But I 292 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 3: just think there's teams that are better than them in 293 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 3: the West. Like I don't see them beating the Lakers. 294 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 3: I don't see them beating the Clippers. I just think 295 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 3: they're just gonna be you know, they're gonna be a 296 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 3: tough out. You know, maybe they gets to the second round. 297 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 3: But I'm just gonna hold I think they're a great 298 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 3: team regular season team, but I just I can't expect 299 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 3: them to go to the Western Conference finals or go 300 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 3: to the finals at all. 301 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 2: This is another There's two things here. One, this is 302 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 2: a problem with not being able to bet on odds 303 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 2: to make the Western Conference finals, which we really honestly 304 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: need in the NBA, Like we need more odds to 305 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 2: make the Western Conference finals, and then like Western Conference 306 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 2: semi finalist odds is something I would like to see 307 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 2: from the books. The second thing I think is I 308 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 2: know this this morning on Twitter, if the Pacers were 309 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 2: regarding this on Wednesday morning. If the Pacers lose tonight, 310 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 2: the East will have three teams over five hundred three, 311 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 2: three teams that are over five hundred. The West has 312 00:15:55,680 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 2: eight eight. If we had no conference structure for the playoffs, 313 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 2: and you could say that there was a wider variant 314 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 2: in the matchups and the road that the Suns would 315 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 2: have to take to get there, I might actually be interested, 316 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 2: Like if I knew that there was there was gonna 317 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 2: be a wider variance on who these teams were gonna 318 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 2: face and it could be a little bit more chaotic. 319 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: I would be very much in on Phoenix as like 320 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 2: a sleeper potential candidate. But think about how we alway 321 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 2: structure this. Like they're not being the Lakers, they're not 322 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 2: beating the Clippers. However, however, I'm gonna hold because I have, 323 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 2: Like I'm not gonna buy anything. I'm gonna hold, but 324 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 2: I will be buying come playoff time. And here's why. 325 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 2: Look at the standings and where they're at now. Now 326 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 2: it's unlikely things will absolutely hold with where they're at 327 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 2: right now, but they are the four seed. This would 328 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 2: be their path. Four seed Sun Spurs four five matchup. 329 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 2: We gotta think the Suns win that. Like the gap 330 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 2: between these teams is significant. Spurs have been great. I 331 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 2: think they're really good. The Suns are a better team, 332 00:16:58,120 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: Like they should win that matchup, and they should win 333 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 2: it in probably six. Okay, then they get the Jazz, okay, 334 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 2: who are playing their best basketball right now. Who if 335 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 2: you're looking at the Jazz and you're like, okay, they 336 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 2: you know they take a lot at three pointers, So 337 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 2: what do you need? You need three point shooting? Sons 338 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 2: have three point shooting. They have good defense on the perimeter, 339 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 2: they have a rim protector and DeAndre Ayden who can 340 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 2: actually score on his own, unlike some defensive Player of 341 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 2: the Year candidates. They have they have just as good 342 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 2: as depth. The Phoenix bench is lights out. Cam Johnson 343 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 2: campaign those guys lights out, Like that's a really good 344 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 2: bench that they have in Phoenix. So I actually kind 345 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 2: of like that matchup, Like you'd be able to bet, 346 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 2: like roll that money over the Spurs and get pretty 347 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 2: good odds on the Suns to beat the Jazz, and 348 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 2: I don't necessarily hate that, So I think that there's 349 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 2: actually kind of some value there. I was gonna talk 350 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 2: about the Jazz today, but I want to wait because 351 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 2: I think we need to give it a little bit 352 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 2: more time. I'm working on an article on them. We'll 353 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 2: talk about them in a future episode and break down 354 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 2: a little bit more of where they're at. I want 355 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,160 Speaker 2: to give them a little bit more time before where 356 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 2: I slamed to them beneath the Earth, because that's. 357 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 3: That's fair, that's definitely fair. 358 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 2: Let's go to the Eastern Let's go to the Eastern 359 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 2: Conference and talk about Raheem's local squad, the local sports 360 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 2: team that everyone knows and loves Philadelphia seventy six ers. 361 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 2: So the sections were red hot forever. They were just 362 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 2: they looked great, they looked awesome. They were undefeated when 363 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 2: when Curry and Embiid and Simmons played, things were looking 364 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 2: really greatly. This is good for the year and beads 365 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 2: in an MVP candidate. They're five and five in their 366 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 2: last ten. They escaped the Toronto Raptors, who were on 367 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 2: a back to back on Tuesday night. They're still leading 368 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 2: the conference at twenty one and eleven, a half game 369 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 2: up on the Brooklyn Nets, but that gap has narrowed. 370 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 2: Rahiem are you buying? Are you selling? Are you holding? 371 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 3: I gotta correct you. They weren't on the back to back. 372 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 3: I think they had they had a gap in between 373 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 3: the games they play. Sunday Raptors beat them, and then 374 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 3: they came back. They had a duplex game. Now I'm 375 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 3: selling I just to me. I place some emphasis on 376 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 3: three point shooting, and I don't trust Danny Green to 377 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 3: hit open shots. 378 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 2: I don't. 379 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 3: I'm Steph Curry, I mean Seth Seth Curry is. I 380 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 3: mean he's gonna hit him. But it's just like I 381 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 3: just I think when I look at this team, this 382 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 3: is a team that can be outshot every single night, Like, 383 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 3: I mean they lost to Portland based on you know, 384 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 3: Portland out shooting them. They I mean, Phoenix beat them. 385 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 3: It's just to me any like even the Bulls hung 386 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 3: with them. So I just I look at this team 387 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 3: and I'm just not that impressed. I think they don't 388 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 3: have enough firepower to match up with the Nets. I 389 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 3: think that even the Bucks have a little bit more 390 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,959 Speaker 3: firepower than them. So it's just like I just can't 391 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 3: buy the Sixers team. I think they have a good defense, 392 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 3: but I don't even think their defense is as good 393 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 3: as advertised at this point. I think they're highly dependent 394 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 3: on mb to to really put up thirty or forty 395 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 3: points to beat some of the some of the best 396 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 3: teams in the league. When you look at their record 397 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 3: against the top teams in the league, they're only five 398 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 3: and seven against teams at and above five hundred, but 399 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 3: they're sixteen and four against teams below five hundred, so 400 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 3: they're not dominating the top competition. They beat the Lakers 401 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 3: because the Lakers were in a bad spot off of 402 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 3: back to back so I'm not really impressed. And then 403 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 3: I mean, you guys know my issues with Doc. I 404 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 3: don't think Doc is really a great coach. I think 405 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 3: he's he's solid, but he's not gonna win you a 406 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 3: game that you wouldn't otherwise win. I think they're carried 407 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 3: by town. 408 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 2: All right, Brandon, you're buying or selling or holding. 409 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm basically with Rahiem on this one. I'm selling. 410 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 4: I tried to get there with the Sixers a few 411 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 4: weeks ago, I think when we were not really believing 412 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 4: in the nuts, right after they lost to the Cavs 413 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 4: a couple of times, and I just can't get there. 414 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 4: It's the same same sort of stuff for Rahiem said, 415 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 4: I don't see the shooting holding up in the playoffs, 416 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 4: and I don't know that I'm gonna trust them to 417 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 4: get enough scoring. They're gonna have at least two tough 418 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 4: a series in the East just to make it out 419 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 4: of the conference, you know, even if they don't necessarily 420 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 4: have to play both Brooklyn and Milwaukee. Philadelphia is the 421 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 4: sort of team that a series against a Boston or 422 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 4: Toronto is going to be a rock fight and a 423 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 4: tough one to get out of even in that matchup, 424 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 4: and I think that they maybe would. But the fact 425 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 4: that I have to say maybe, I think is all 426 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 4: I need to know about how I feel about the 427 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 4: team overall as far as a title contender. So I 428 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 4: was surprised to see looking at the odds today, I 429 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 4: was expecting Philadelphia to be the second pick in the East, 430 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 4: not the third pick. So I do think that the 431 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 4: books are factoring that in a little bit to leave 432 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 4: a little bit of potential value there. But I'm just 433 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 4: not excited about the offense or the ceiling. And like 434 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 4: Raheem said, I think we assume the defense, but the 435 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 4: numbers haven't been that strong, and I don't know, it 436 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 4: feels like it feels like it's missing a piece. I 437 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 4: don't know what it is, but I'm not excited about them. 438 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 2: So I think I'm in a hold. I'm gonna hold 439 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 2: on them because I've got a lost stocker early. I'm 440 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,239 Speaker 2: holding And one of the reasons is, like, look, I 441 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 2: think the Nets should rightly be favored to win the 442 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 2: Eastern Conference, and but let's look at again the path here. Okay, 443 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 2: So if they hold on and they get the one 444 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 2: or the two right, they're gonna face whoever's in the 445 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 2: play in tournament, and unless that's Miami, I'm not really concerned. 446 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 2: Like if Miami hangs in there and gets it together 447 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 2: and they're able to you know, put together, than sure, 448 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 2: Like you know, m beads better than Bam. But that's 449 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 2: a good matchup. And you have Butler and his mental 450 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 2: advantage over this team and all that, Like I get 451 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 2: that concern, and he have the shooters right, so that 452 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 2: one would concern me. But the rest of the teams 453 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 2: like Knicks, Bulls, Hornets, the Hawks are hanging on the outside. 454 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 2: Those are the only teams you really worry about, Okay, 455 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 2: their other potential like second round matchups are gonna be 456 00:22:55,560 --> 00:23:01,959 Speaker 2: you know, Indiana, Toronto. The Sixers have more firepower than 457 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 2: those teams and have a big million. A lot of 458 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 2: this just comes down to this. There's no team in 459 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference right now that has an Mbique counter none. 460 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 2: Nobody's got one. They used to be the Celtics and 461 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 2: they had Baines at Horford. They could counter them. They 462 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 2: just bend them. Well. The Raptors with Gasol and Ebaka 463 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 2: could do some stuff. But like you're gonna throw out 464 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 2: Aaron Bains what I love. But Bains and Cris Bouchet 465 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 2: versus emb that's the plan. Don't think that's a good plan. 466 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 2: Like Bains has done a really good job of ends 467 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 2: beating in his career, So the Raptors could be feisty 468 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 2: for sure. I could see that being like a problem. 469 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 2: But I also just don't think the Raptors having a 470 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 2: firepower to hang with them. I think there. I think 471 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 2: the Sixers offense can still wind up outscoring them. That'd 472 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 2: be a tough series, I think, but I think I 473 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 2: think it would be. 474 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 3: It would be like a six game series where you'd 475 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 3: have the Raptors outshoot them for a couple of games. 476 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 3: It'll be like that Brooklyn series, Brooklyn Sixers series from 477 00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 3: a couple of years ago. 478 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you will you tell? So you have these 479 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 2: games where like you're like, the Sixers have dominated this game. 480 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 2: How is this a one point game? And just like 481 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 2: Kyle Lowry's doing stuff, just like the Raptors are throwing 482 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 2: over their head saves that wind up in a random scramble. 483 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 2: Three and oh my god, Fred van Blietz sop the nemesis. 484 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: Fred van bliet. 485 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 2: I can't say this enough. Shit just happens with the Raptors. 486 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 2: It just happens. They just make stuff happen. But I 487 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 2: think they probably win that. And then look, if you're 488 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 2: looking at Nets Bucks, if those two teams have to 489 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 2: go through each other, like obviously you're not worried about 490 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 2: the Bucks giving their playoff history like you always only 491 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 2: you don't have to be scared of them. I think 492 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 2: that's a tough matchup because they've got brook Lopez, like 493 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 2: that's a pretty good counter for him is just to 494 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 2: be like, oh yeah, brook like that's not bad, but 495 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: the Sixers have a lot of defensive options to throw it. 496 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 2: You're honest and honestly like the Sixers bench may be 497 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 2: better the Milwaukee's at this point, which is wild but true. 498 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 2: And then Brooklyn it just kind of comes down to like, yeah, 499 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 2: you got Kde and you got Hardened and you got 500 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 2: Irving and the Nets are definitely gonna make that a 501 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,719 Speaker 2: series and they might probably go seven. Right now, they 502 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 2: don't have an MB counter, they got nothing. You know, 503 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 2: they can double. But if it be is able to 504 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 2: handle that for the first time in his career, then 505 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,239 Speaker 2: I think they can actually probably win. I think that 506 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 2: that's actually so. 507 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 3: I'm asking you're asking the MB to do something for 508 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 3: the first time of his career. Ye, yeah, I am problem. 509 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 4: They're asking him b to play like the MVP for 510 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 4: six straight weeks against the teams at the highest level 511 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 4: night in mat out because if he doesn't show up 512 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 4: and play like the MVP, they're not beating one of 513 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 4: those top teams. And I just don't know that I 514 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 4: can trust him. Yeah, I'm just going to to pay 515 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 4: it down and see it happen for six straight weeks 516 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 4: because we just haven't seen it yet. 517 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 2: All right, real quickly, let's go over the bucks because 518 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 2: I only need one more. Are you buying, selling or holding? 519 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 2: I'll go first. I'm still selling. They're trying out new 520 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 2: defensive schemes. They're undervalued in the market because nobody believes 521 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 2: in them. I get it. I just I still I'm 522 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 2: like halfway between a selling the whole. I'm not aggressively 523 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 2: selling all of my stock, but I just can't with 524 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 2: this team again. I just can't. I know that, Like, 525 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 2: they're trying different stuff, and I think that's good, and 526 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 2: they're not over exceeding expectations in the regular season, and 527 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 2: that's good because that's one of the problems is like 528 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 2: when you're really good in the regular season, you're just 529 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 2: a target. It's better to be like a dangerous team. 530 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 2: Yanni is still really awesome, and Drew Holliday's been out, 531 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 2: like that's a significant factor. I just they haven't shown 532 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 2: anything this season to be like they've got it. It 533 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 2: doesn't feel like their year. It doesn't feel like there's 534 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 2: anything special going on there. I don't like, you know, 535 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 2: if they face the Nets, they're just going to get 536 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 2: the other guys are just going to shoot off the 537 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 2: dribble against them into oblivion. If they face they always 538 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 2: say Drew Holiday on one of the three. And then 539 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 2: if they face the Sixers, then you've got all that 540 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 2: transition length and athleticism to counter what the Bucks try 541 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,479 Speaker 2: and do. They don't have as much shooting like they 542 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 2: may not. I don't think they have as much shooting 543 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 2: as the Sixers do as much as Raim's worried about that. 544 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 2: So I'm still selling on the Bucks, just not aggressively 545 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 2: or heem, what do you think. 546 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 3: I don't even have any stocks. Like at this point, 547 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 3: we're like, we're like game stock in this and we're 548 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 3: shortened minus one hundred and forty percent of their stock. 549 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm gonna sell the Bucks. I just I mean, 550 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 3: when you have a guy in Giannis who's just so 551 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 3: flawed as a superstar, he's a great player, but in 552 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 3: the playoffs, I just think the Sixers have pieces that 553 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 3: they can throw at him. Miami had pieces that they 554 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 3: can throw at him that make it tough. And I 555 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 3: just don't think they have the bench that they had previously. Now. 556 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 3: I think it's it's a shame that we're not seeing 557 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 3: the Bucks at full strength right now because Drew Holliday's 558 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 3: been out. But it's just I just I think they're 559 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 3: too limited. They just don't have enough, don't. I don't 560 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 3: see what makes the team special. 561 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 1: So I'm selling Raheem Palmer is falling out of love Brian. 562 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 4: So I'm buying at least a little bit. I'm a nibble. 563 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 4: I'm a nibble on the Bucks because I think this 564 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 4: is the window to buy on the Bucks. This is 565 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 4: the team that we're seeing right now is not the 566 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 4: best version. I think everyone knows that we've got this 567 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 4: recent losing streak. We are, they're missing Drew Holiday and 568 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 4: it's very clear right now just how valuable he is 569 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 4: defensively and even what they're doing on offense. Chris Middleton 570 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 4: is in this big slump right now that just booted 571 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 4: him out of the All Star Game because he had 572 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 4: ten off you know, ten days that went bad. And 573 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 4: I think that this is not the same Milwaukee team 574 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 4: as the last couple of years, for good and for bad. Obviously, 575 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 4: the depth is not the same. I don't trust that 576 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 4: a whole lot. That's a problem. But hopefully, hopefully Drew 577 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 4: and Chris and Giannis will actually play their big minutes 578 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 4: when we get to the playoffs. Fingers crossed that Bud 579 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 4: will remember that his guys actually get to play this year. 580 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 4: And here's why I like Milwaukee. For like two decades, 581 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 4: we had San Antonio Spurs teams that we're all really good, 582 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 4: but rarely truly great. They were like a top five team, 583 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 4: you're in, you're out, And they were the dynasty that 584 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 4: never really had the huge streak. They just were always 585 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 4: there to possibly get there. And to me, when there 586 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 4: was an awesome team, the awesome team beat them. When 587 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 4: there wasn't, the Spurs were the default answer and they 588 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,959 Speaker 4: got to the finals or won the finals. Now that 589 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 4: feels like under selling the Spurs. I understand, but it's 590 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 4: saying year after year they're a top four, top five team, 591 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 4: they're in the mix. You just want a seat at 592 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 4: the table. You want another chance, you want another crack 593 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 4: at the conference finals. Right now, with Milwaukee is plus 594 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 4: three hundred at DraftKings to win the East, that's implied 595 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 4: odds twenty five percent. I think that's low. I think 596 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 4: i'd put them thirty five percent. Maybe I think there's 597 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 4: a little bit of value there. I'm not all in, 598 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 4: but I'm out on Philadelphia. I like Brooklyn, but Brooklyn 599 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 4: is the team that that would beat them. But you know, 600 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 4: I don't. I don't totally believe in Brooklyn. Where where 601 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 4: still we still have lots of reasons to worry about 602 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 4: that team or wonder what's going to happen. Giannis can 603 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 4: be the best player on the court any game, any series. 604 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 4: I think there's a little bit of value there. 605 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 2: I like that take a lot. It's interesting to kind 606 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 2: of the Spurs comparison is one that hadn't really made, 607 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 2: which is surprising considering the Moudenholzer connection. I think, you know, 608 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 2: one thing to keep in mind is through the two 609 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 2: thousands and most of the twenty tens until their room 610 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 2: was over in sixteen. The Spurs weren't really upset by 611 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 2: inferior teams that often. They didn't win every year, but 612 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 2: they would lose, like you said, two more dominant teams. 613 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 2: That to me is kind of the difference. Is like 614 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 2: the Spurs lost to the twenty eleven Grizzlies, sure, but 615 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 2: that was like really lightning in the bottle. The Bucks 616 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 2: two years in a row have lost to inferior teams 617 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 2: that got hot at the worst moment to exploit their defense. 618 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 2: Now maybe they are able to like adjust and find 619 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 2: more switch capability in all these things. But I just 620 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 2: have a hard time when it's like you got beat 621 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 2: by the Raptors and the heat, and like, if nothing else, 622 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 2: you allow those two fan bases to become just utterly obnoxious, 623 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 2: just so onoxious for getting past the Bucks, and for that, 624 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 2: I think I have to remain a little reticent to 625 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 2: back them. That's gotta wrap it up for Marquis this week. 626 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and go back to the future. Back 627 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 2: to the future. In this segment, we go back and 628 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 2: we talk about bets that we wish that we had 629 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 2: made in the past. They may still have some value. 630 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 2: Right now. I will go ahead and lead off because 631 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 2: mine's a quick one in which we already talked about, 632 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 2: which is the Los Angeles Clippers and their division bet. 633 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 2: Just a week ago, I could have gotten the plus 634 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 2: one twenty five start the season. That could have gotten 635 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 2: them a little bit longer than that one seventy five 636 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 2: ish start off the season when the Lakers were read high, 637 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 2: I could have gotten a plus two hundred at some 638 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 2: places even longer than that. And now, unfortunately, even in 639 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 2: the day that's passed. Since Raheem posted his very good 640 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 2: article on the Clippers, which you should check out on 641 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 2: the Action Network app, the Clippers have gone from a 642 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 2: plus number at DraftKings to minus one thirty four to 643 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 2: win the Pacific Division. They are minus at all of 644 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 2: the books that I checked this morning. You now have 645 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 2: got to pay the juice in order to get the 646 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 2: Clippers on the division, which means there's no longer any value. 647 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 2: I can't be in like I should bet the Clippers 648 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 2: to win the division. I did that for like three weeks. Boys, 649 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 2: like three weeks. I said to myself, like, you need 650 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 2: to bet the Clippers within and I didn't do it 651 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 2: because I was like, well the Lakers, Ah, I'm so 652 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 2: mad at myself. The Clippers are gonna win the division 653 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 2: and I'm just gonna have like watch money sail on by. 654 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 2: I'm very annoying at myself. Raheem was gonna you, what's 655 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 2: your back to the future. For the week, Zach Levine 656 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 2: was a plus one hundred. 657 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 3: We're in twenty to one to win Most Improved Player, 658 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 3: oh Man on Saturday. It's now down to plus thirty 659 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 3: six and plus plus thirty six hundred. I mean, you 660 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 3: can't beat those odds. And then, especially with the cash 661 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 3: out feature that these these apps have, you already would 662 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 3: have made up a profit. I mean, Zach Levine right 663 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 3: now is just unbelievable. He's got his first All Star game. 664 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 3: He's averaging twenty eight points, five assists, five rebounds. The 665 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 3: Bulls actually look, you know, solid and relevant. They have 666 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 3: a chance to make the playing game. Me and a 667 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,479 Speaker 3: friend talked about it. I have a betting partner who 668 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 3: I work with, you know, on a lot of my 669 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 3: plays and stuff. 670 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 2: Like that, and we just didn't put it in. 671 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 3: And it's probably one of my biggest regrets of the Season's. 672 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 2: Gonna be tough this year, Like Jeremy Rant seems like 673 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 2: this runaway favorite. I still just don't know if Detroit's 674 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 2: gonna keep playing him. I just don't know. Like at 675 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 2: some point they're probably gonna be like, uh, you give 676 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 2: us to go much of a chance to win, you 677 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 2: should buys it down. They just gotta start taking it 678 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 2: at some point. I think Christian Wood was like rightfully 679 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 2: the favor going into the season, and I think would 680 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 2: have been a good position on how do you stay healthy? 681 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:10,800 Speaker 2: But with him missing time, I think he's kind of 682 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 2: out of it. It's you know, Jalen Brown. The Celtics 683 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,240 Speaker 2: are struggling, so that's kind of overshadowing what he's done. 684 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 2: It's a wide open race, Brandon, What you're back in 685 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 2: the future. 686 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 4: This week, I's gotta say, A chance to make the 687 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 4: playing game is the title of the Chicago Bulls twenty 688 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 4: first century memoir right there. So that's get excited Chicago fans. 689 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: Brandon Anderson is a hater? 690 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 2: Why you're so down on this team? You're the biggest 691 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 2: hater of the Bulls and everyone's like they're pretty good, 692 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 2: they're not bad, and you're just like constantly undermining them. 693 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 2: They're better that you think, Brandon, I promise you they're 694 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:45,280 Speaker 2: not bad. 695 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 4: I aspire to more than not bad. That's all. 696 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 2: He has a bulls hoodio on right now, bulls on 697 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 2: right now, right now, ahead, go ahead, Brandon. 698 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 4: You guys are going to absolutely despise my futures picked today, 699 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 4: You're going to dump all over it. I'm excited. I'm 700 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 4: grabbing an MVP today at plus four thousand, un DraftKings, 701 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 4: James Harden MVP. Yeah, the present, No, back to the future. 702 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,959 Speaker 4: I don't want in the past. I want the auderat now. 703 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 4: Brooklyn numbers twenty five points, eight and a half rebounds, 704 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 4: eleven and a half assists a game on fifty forty 705 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 4: two to eighty six shooting. The Nets are fourteen to 706 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 4: five with Harden. There's seven to three with Harden and 707 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 4: not Kevin Durant, and I think the Nets are going 708 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 4: to be the East one seed once the Jazz fallback, 709 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 4: the Nets could be the best record in the NBA. 710 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,879 Speaker 4: Durant is at twenty nine to seven to five since 711 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 4: Harden joined, so he's scoring a couple more points a game, 712 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 4: but Harden has had clearly the better numbers and Ben 713 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 4: the better player. Since Durrant joined the team. Obviously, the 714 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 4: massive problem is the narrative. He quit on the first 715 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,879 Speaker 4: ten games of the season and nobody wants to vote 716 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 4: for him. I get it, like that's clearly is the huge, 717 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 4: huge problem. So the reason for the hardened argument is 718 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 4: a couple of things. Number One, I keep looking for 719 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 4: who the MVP is. I still don't believe that it's 720 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,879 Speaker 4: gonna be Lebron. I don't think this last week has 721 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 4: been like super damaging to his case, but certainly hasn't helped. 722 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 4: But I'm still waiting for some other contender to arise. 723 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 4: Maybe it's James Harden. And number two is that so? Yeah, 724 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 4: Harden mailed in ten games, but he's gonna keep playing. 725 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 4: We have every other candidate is gonna end up missing 726 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,800 Speaker 4: ten games for COVID. Why can't Harden miss ten games 727 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,800 Speaker 4: for hating on Houston? I know it's a terrible argument. 728 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:41,320 Speaker 4: How about this narrative, Russ Westbrook rob Harden of that MVP. 729 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 4: Everyone agrees on that, now, so how about we make 730 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 4: it up with the hardened MVP plus four forty one. 731 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 4: I'm just saying two point five percent chance, So you 732 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 4: tell me there's. 733 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 2: A chance you're setting money on fire, Brandon, just send 734 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 2: me the money. Just send me the money. 735 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 3: Can on book you two guys, let. 736 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 2: Me think about it. I might go on this because 737 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 2: that is absolutely absurd. So okay, let's say it from 738 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 2: all the angles a right. So one your argument. I 739 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 2: get where you're coming from here, and I know how 740 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 2: solid you are in your analysis and your objective and 741 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 2: all those things, and like me, like I'm metrics forward. 742 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 2: We're all metrics forward, like we're betters. That's where we 743 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 2: like kind of think things. All right, let me throw 744 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 2: this out for you, Okay. James Arden is averaging this 745 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:36,240 Speaker 2: season twenty five points, seven and a half boards, eleven assists. 746 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,839 Speaker 2: Trey Young is averaging twenty seven points, four boards, nine 747 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 2: point six assists. Okay, let me just put it this way, 748 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,919 Speaker 2: Trey Young didn't even get All Star Like, Trey Young 749 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 2: didn't make the All Star team. The point I'm trying 750 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 2: to make here is that the numbers this year, and 751 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,240 Speaker 2: there's been a lot of posts on this, the number 752 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 2: of the statistical individual production this year is crazy. It's 753 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 2: not just the offenses are wild. They're actually not that 754 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 2: much wilder than we've seen in some years. And some 755 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:08,720 Speaker 2: teams are actually well below the Cavs, But we're seeing 756 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 2: so many insane individual offensive performances that a lot of 757 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 2: voters they're just gonna go numb. Like the statistical arguments 758 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,919 Speaker 2: are gonna be very difficult to make this season. It's 759 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 2: gonna be really hard to make statistical arguments for guys. 760 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 2: It's one of the reasons that Lebron probably still has 761 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 2: the best value is that, like, no matter what Jokic 762 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 2: does in terms of like no center has ever done this, this, 763 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 2: and this, They're just like, yeah, but stats or whatever, 764 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 2: because this season, everyone's scoring twenty and everyone's scoring twenty five, 765 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 2: and everyone has all these crazy numbers, like Jeremy Grant 766 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 2: has great numbers branded like we just we can't. There's 767 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 2: no way that the numbers are gonna bear out. Also, 768 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 2: when Katie gets back, you're gonna see again that Katie 769 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,280 Speaker 2: is the best player on that team. And no one's 770 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 2: ever gonna win MVP without being the best player on 771 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 2: their team. It's just it will not happen. It won't happen. 772 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 2: Like I cannot remember a time when a player has 773 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 2: one MVP when he wasn't the best player on his 774 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,320 Speaker 2: team and even if you're like, yeah, but the numbers 775 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 2: and look at that. Everyone knows Katie's better. Like, everyone 776 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 2: knows Katie is better, And there's absolutely no way that's 777 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 2: going to be able to get passed them. Plus, even 778 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 2: if you got past all of that, even if you 779 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,359 Speaker 2: somehow dragged them past all of those problems, every single voter, 780 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 2: even the analytical ones, are gonna be like he quit 781 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 2: on Houston. He showed up looking like the nutty professor. 782 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 2: You cannot and understandy circumstances vote for this guy for 783 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:39,399 Speaker 2: Most Valuable Player when he tanked a franchise. There's no way, 784 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 2: am I like, back me up. 785 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,959 Speaker 3: Your RHAM, I mean, And also, I think the one 786 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,319 Speaker 3: thing you have to think about is that I think 787 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 3: voters hold hard and his collapses against you. It's the 788 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 3: same thing with Gianni's. It's just at some point, no 789 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 3: one's going to vote for a guy who's continually collapsed 790 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 3: in the playoffs. 791 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 2: All right, that's back in the future and when Brandon 792 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 2: throws away and just sets it on fire. But admire, 793 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 2: I do admire that every week there's a there's at 794 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 2: least one time in this show every week where Brandon 795 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 2: sets his sights on like a take mountain that just 796 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 2: seems insurmountable, And every week he's like, I'm going up, 797 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,919 Speaker 2: like I admire it, like he goes up there. He 798 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 2: every week he is Yatu watsonabi, that's like, no, no, I'm 799 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 2: gonna block this. This dunk for Anthony Edwards. Every week 800 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 2: he's like, I got it. Don't worry, all right, let's 801 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 2: I do want to do crazy pills real quick? 802 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: And now am I taking crazy pills with Matt Moore? 803 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 2: Doesn't anyone notice this? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills? 804 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,879 Speaker 2: Am I taking crazy pills here? Or? Is the All 805 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 2: Star conversation at an all time level of dumb? It's 806 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 2: always pretty dumb. It gets dumber the more that you 807 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 2: do this, you realize more and more it's pretty dumb. 808 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 2: In the past twenty four hours, I have seen we 809 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 2: should ignore regular season performance and just rely on the playoffs. 810 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 2: That was my good, good friend of mine, Kurt helen 811 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 2: Over at NBC's Pro Basketball Talk, who I love and 812 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 2: owe very much of this industry. And still I was like, Kurt, 813 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 2: what are you doing to yourself? Man? This this is 814 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 2: a take mountain that you are trying to climb. Not 815 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 2: even Brandon Anderson would go up this one. Trey Young 816 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 2: is a snub Nikolvo, Like, there's gonna be so many 817 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,720 Speaker 2: people mad that Vucevic made it the entire like Western 818 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,839 Speaker 2: Conference got mad that Devin Booker didn't made it, even 819 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 2: though Booker hasn't been all that great until the last 820 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 2: like two three weeks of the season. Like, Devin Booker 821 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 2: is this incredible snub, Like, now everybody's gonna make it. 822 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 2: You have legacy picks of guys that are gonna make 823 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 2: it in because they always make it in and because 824 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 2: of their star power. A lot of this is impacted 825 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 2: by fans. The reserves are selected by coaches. I just 826 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 2: feel like this is why I've just started to gravitate 827 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 2: more and more towards all NBA, Like, let's just do 828 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 2: all NBA. It's conference neutral, it's not impact by popularity. 829 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. How you're gonna perform in a meaningless 830 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 2: exhibition in which nobody tries. All NBA is what should matter. 831 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 2: I don't really know, Brandon. I don't know what the 832 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 2: point of All Star is anymore other than to make 833 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 2: money in the game. 834 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:07,319 Speaker 4: I agree this last summer when sports disappeared off the 835 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:08,840 Speaker 4: planet and we had to find something to do with 836 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,239 Speaker 4: all of our time. My something was Basketball reference and 837 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 4: old NBA TV games and just diving back into history. 838 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 4: And to me, all Stars matter the same way that 839 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 4: all NBA matters. It matters historically. Whatever we're doing to 840 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 4: select them, at the end of the day, we're gonna say. 841 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 4: You know, I saw someone say, well, James Harden is 842 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,280 Speaker 4: the has nine All Star births now and no player 843 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 4: with nine All Star births has never not made the 844 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame. Oh you think, how about James Harden 845 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:40,760 Speaker 4: is going to make the Hall of Fame? How about 846 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 4: dah Like, we don't need to have nine All Stars 847 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,920 Speaker 4: as the reason, Like how far down the plaque is 848 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 4: that going on James Harden's Hall of Fame plaque. It 849 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,360 Speaker 4: just it matters because it matters historically. And to me, 850 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 4: like that's why for me picking players, I want to 851 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 4: look back at the end of the season and just 852 00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 4: see what would have made sense. That's why I was 853 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 4: so hesitant on the zach Levines and Julius Randalls of 854 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,280 Speaker 4: the world, because they they're great right now, they're deserving, 855 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 4: but what about two months from now, what about five 856 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 4: years from now are we going to look back and 857 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 4: be like, what were we doing? What happened with that? 858 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:19,399 Speaker 4: And especially of all years this year, when we have 859 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 4: like thirty games and guys missing for protocols all the 860 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 4: time and the tiniest of small samples, it just got ludicrous. 861 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 4: And I don't know it. The West has no snubs. 862 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,320 Speaker 4: The West is as soft as it's been in forever. 863 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 4: The East has a bunch of guys that could have 864 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,400 Speaker 4: made it, and a bunch of that did, And so 865 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:40,879 Speaker 4: it goes. 866 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 2: You know, who did make it, Brandon, you know who 867 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 2: did make it? You know, and who made it exactly 868 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 2: a star. 869 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 3: I'm with you on all MBA. I think that's that's 870 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 3: really what matters. But I mean, at the end of 871 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 3: the day, all Starry gave it just for fun, so 872 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 3: you just kind of you take it with a grain 873 00:43:58,680 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 3: of salt. 874 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 2: That felt. The problem is like it's the way it's 875 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 2: talked about and the way it's weted. We're having only 876 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:10,399 Speaker 2: simultaneous conversations at the same time with no nexus point. 877 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 2: And what I mean by that is like, look, if 878 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 2: you want to talk about MVP, you can talk about 879 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 2: what's the best story, who's had the best stats, who's 880 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 2: had the most impact, who's had the best season, Who's 881 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,320 Speaker 2: the best player. But they all converge a essentral point, 882 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 2: which is like what's the most valuable? Like what is 883 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 2: the who's been the definition of the MVP in the 884 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 2: in the like ethereal concept, right, yeah, with All Star though, 885 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 2: it's like no, no, no, it should reward playoffs success. No, 886 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 2: it should be the who the best players? No, no, it's 887 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 2: who's most entertaining, Like there's no nexus for us to 888 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 2: come together and have an assessment. And the fact, I 889 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,239 Speaker 2: will say this again, the fact that bonuses are tied 890 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:48,240 Speaker 2: to this is nonsense. It is ridiculous. All NBA, I get. 891 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,359 Speaker 2: You should take that out of the media's hands and 892 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 2: just make it a panel of I don't know, like 893 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,839 Speaker 2: get like a panel of like twelve people with three 894 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 2: representatives representatives from the media, get three Hall of famers, 895 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 2: three current players, and fill in the rest with like 896 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 2: I don't whoever TikTok people. But you just get some 897 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,840 Speaker 2: sort of like coalescence of like a panel to decide 898 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 2: all NBA, and that can wind up being the ones 899 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,800 Speaker 2: that decided versus the media votes just because like I 900 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,360 Speaker 2: don't think the media should be held responsible for the 901 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,400 Speaker 2: decision that can cost a guy like thirty five million 902 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 2: dollars like that. Yeah, that's that's you know, do not 903 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 2: ask people that do not play at that level, that 904 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,359 Speaker 2: do not operate at that level of income and make 905 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 2: those kinds of decisions. And so but like with All Star, 906 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 2: I just it does wind up. You know, Brandon talked 907 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 2: about this, like, but All Star does go on the 908 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame Black it does, Like it does matter. 909 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,319 Speaker 2: The difference between being a two time All Star and 910 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 2: an eight time All Star is significant. The difference between 911 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 2: being a five time All Star and a ten time 912 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 2: All Star is. 913 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 3: Like Lowry could Lowery is probably a fringe Hall of 914 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 3: Famer at this point because of those are like the 915 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:52,280 Speaker 3: six All Stars. 916 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 2: He guess, yeah, it does. It boosts you, So it 917 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,839 Speaker 2: really does matter. It provides recognition of it. But even 918 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 2: though like this is the big thing is we need 919 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 2: to raise up all NBA. I think we need to 920 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,400 Speaker 2: go to five All NBA teams. And that's people are 921 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 2: gonna say that's too many, and I'm like, that's twenty five. Yeah, look, 922 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,919 Speaker 2: look that's twenty five players. That's twenty most teams now 923 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:16,239 Speaker 2: have multiple guys on it that are like star players, right, Like, 924 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,280 Speaker 2: we're not going to get one dude from every team 925 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 2: or for one dude from twenty five out of the thirty. 926 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,040 Speaker 2: That's not how it will be, you know. But I 927 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 2: was thinking about this, like there are guys that I 928 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,919 Speaker 2: think that would deserve a NOD for like fourth team 929 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 2: All NBA. 930 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:30,720 Speaker 3: And yeah, there's no harm. 931 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 2: It doesn't cost us anything. All it would be and 932 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 2: like if you made like All NBA fourth Team, it's 933 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 2: a nice little note, but it's not the same, Like 934 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,279 Speaker 2: there is a huge difference between you would see like 935 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,400 Speaker 2: are you because when you see All NBA, you've always 936 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,800 Speaker 2: see like the notation on basketball references like second team, 937 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 2: Like it does matter if you were first tier second. 938 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 2: What you're basically doing there with All NBAS is these 939 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:55,880 Speaker 2: are the tiers. That's yeah, eliminate the eliminate positions and 940 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 2: do All NBA five teams. 941 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,719 Speaker 3: And I think that this will be about because that's 942 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 3: still only like five six percent of the players, right. 943 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,400 Speaker 4: Well, and the big thing is you get to do 944 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 4: it at the end of the season. That's the real 945 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,800 Speaker 4: problem here. Yeah, the real problem is we're choosing stupid 946 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 4: awards that are gonna go on historical documentation based off 947 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 4: of twenty games. It's ridiculous, so at least give it. 948 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 2: But then you run into the problem that Kurt suggested, 949 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,880 Speaker 2: which is like, you can't be like, oh no, we 950 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 2: should consider the last year's playoff, Ryan, like, is gore 951 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:25,880 Speaker 2: and dragic of an All Star? Is that where you're 952 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,839 Speaker 2: gonna tell me? Because that doesn't make any sense? All right? 953 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 2: So that's that's crazy pills. Let's wrap it up. Our 954 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 2: picks for Wednesday. 955 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:38,279 Speaker 1: Get this out the door, dig in certain my desh 956 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:43,280 Speaker 1: looks delicious. It's the Wednesday NBA buffet, chew. 957 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 2: And swallow no savory. Yeah, one pick each week, Brandon, 958 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm get the feeling you're gonna pick 959 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:50,399 Speaker 2: a prop. I don't know. 960 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 4: Why I'm not playing a prop today, Why I am 961 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,799 Speaker 4: actually playing the All Star angle. I'm going with a 962 00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,439 Speaker 4: two team parlay tonight. It is my Sega Bob All 963 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:01,880 Speaker 4: Stars snub Parlay. 964 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:02,880 Speaker 2: Yum. 965 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 1: We've got a Sega Babbla. 966 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:10,400 Speaker 4: Grabbing the Pacers minus one point five against the Warriors 967 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 4: and the Heat minus two point five against the Raptors. 968 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,440 Speaker 4: So with the Pacers, you've got Domana Sabonis thinks he's 969 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,280 Speaker 4: a snob ready for a big game. Pacers haven't played 970 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 4: for a week, so the rest of the Warriors are 971 00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,880 Speaker 4: on the East coast trip. They've gone to Orlando, Charlotte, 972 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,800 Speaker 4: New York, now Indiana all in the last week. Golden 973 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,040 Speaker 4: State is two and seven against top five teams from 974 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 4: either conference, which Indiana is. So, I like the Pacers 975 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,320 Speaker 4: there with the heat, You've got the rare double snub, 976 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:40,319 Speaker 4: bam Adebayo and Jimmy Butler. Who's more motivated than those guys. 977 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,520 Speaker 4: They're gonna come out and put up like forty in 978 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:46,279 Speaker 4: the first quarter, something ridiculous. The Raptors are also on 979 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:47,759 Speaker 4: the second end of back to back, just like the 980 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 4: Warriors are. Raptors have played five games in seven days. 981 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:54,239 Speaker 4: They played Milwaukee twice and Philadelphia twice recently. I just 982 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,520 Speaker 4: think the Heat and the Pacers. You've got two tired 983 00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 4: teams versus two super motivated teams. So I'm grabbing the 984 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 4: Ers in the hit sagababe all Star snub parlay, let's go. 985 00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:05,600 Speaker 2: I like it. 986 00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,920 Speaker 3: I love it for what you pick for the night, 987 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,480 Speaker 3: I'm going with the under. I mean, this is this 988 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,280 Speaker 3: move while we were on here while we were recording. 989 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,080 Speaker 3: But I like the under to twenty six and a half. 990 00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,759 Speaker 3: In Celtics Hawks, I think it's down to two twenty four. 991 00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,719 Speaker 3: But they've just played last week twice. I mean these team, 992 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,680 Speaker 3: two teams are very familiar with one another on the 993 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,240 Speaker 3: game floor over at two thirty six and two thirty. 994 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 3: But I think you know in this spot you have 995 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 3: both teams are tired. They played three and four nights. 996 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,000 Speaker 3: I think it's telling me that the oddsmakers open it's 997 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,399 Speaker 3: at two twenty six. I mean, both of those games 998 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,520 Speaker 3: last week they ate it by forty point scoring outburns 999 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:44,000 Speaker 3: from Trey on Trey Young, and in the second game, 1000 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 3: which you guys covered on the bet cast, we got 1001 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,440 Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty three point second half. So you 1002 00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 3: look at the spot, you know you got two teams 1003 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,359 Speaker 3: and a back to back three and four nights. If 1004 00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,399 Speaker 3: you notice, if you look at the pace of those 1005 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,840 Speaker 3: games last night, the Celtics and the MAVs, they played 1006 00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,479 Speaker 3: just ninety three possessions. Yesterday the Hawks in the Caves, 1007 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,440 Speaker 3: they played just ninety two possession So I'm expecting a 1008 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,480 Speaker 3: slower paced game, you know, just from the spot. And 1009 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,640 Speaker 3: then also you look at the Hawks. 1010 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,080 Speaker 2: Cam Reddish is questionable. 1011 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,880 Speaker 3: He missed yesterday. John Collins left last night's game with concussion. 1012 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,719 Speaker 3: So you have the Hawks missing four rotational players with 1013 00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:20,239 Speaker 3: Bogdan Boganovic and DeAndre Hunter out of the lineup. The 1014 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,759 Speaker 3: Celtics still have a solid defensive team. You know, they 1015 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,000 Speaker 3: theyre going with that two big lineup. But I think, 1016 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,480 Speaker 3: you know, more importantly, the Celtics have really struggled to 1017 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,880 Speaker 3: score the last two weeks. Their twenty first in offensive 1018 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,640 Speaker 3: efficiency scored one hundred and ten points for one hundred possessions. 1019 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,200 Speaker 3: I think, you know, Brad has really kind of just 1020 00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,280 Speaker 3: struggled to put this offense together. They're really ISO heavy, 1021 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,720 Speaker 3: you know, the other day against a poor Pelicans defense, 1022 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,600 Speaker 3: they only scored point nine points for possession in the 1023 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,799 Speaker 3: second half. I think Jalen Brown he started to come 1024 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,280 Speaker 3: down to earth. You know, he had a solid performance 1025 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,080 Speaker 3: last night, scoring twenty nine points on twelve or twenties shooting, 1026 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,279 Speaker 3: but he hasn't been what he was all season. My 1027 00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 3: possessions make this game to twenty three, So what two 1028 00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:00,719 Speaker 3: twenty four and a half and up. You've got a 1029 00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:01,720 Speaker 3: solid play on Hunt. 1030 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:03,760 Speaker 2: When the Celtics knocked the Sectors out of the playoffs. 1031 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:08,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna laugh my ass off. I'm gonna laugh how 1032 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,520 Speaker 2: much you hate the Celtics team. That will not happen. 1033 00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 2: By the way, I need Jell's help. Okay, I need 1034 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,279 Speaker 2: you all's help. It will not surprise you that I'm 1035 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:23,319 Speaker 2: going with a half or quarter play this season. Via 1036 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,760 Speaker 2: my analysis on my action app, you can actually analyze 1037 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,280 Speaker 2: your own picks in the app, I'm forty four, thirty 1038 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,440 Speaker 2: two and three doing halves in quarters this season. More importantly, 1039 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,399 Speaker 2: I'm plus nine point eight in units because I get 1040 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,600 Speaker 2: plus juice on a one of these. This has been 1041 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,360 Speaker 2: like my smart angle of the year, is like, just 1042 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,759 Speaker 2: play these play the lineups. Play the smallest, don't let 1043 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,239 Speaker 2: the variants over forty eight minutes screw you. Play them 1044 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,400 Speaker 2: very narrow. I got two choices, and I don't know 1045 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,640 Speaker 2: which one to go with. So my first choice, the 1046 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:51,040 Speaker 2: Oklahoma City Thunder are nine and one in their last 1047 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 2: ten first half. They are just a great first half 1048 00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,120 Speaker 2: team that knows how to tank its tail off in 1049 00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,680 Speaker 2: the second half. Okay, on the season, OKAC is only 1050 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,239 Speaker 2: seven and fourteen against the spread, but over the last 1051 00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 2: ten again nine and one first half and Okayse's four 1052 00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:10,080 Speaker 2: and one in their last five as well. They're facing 1053 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,719 Speaker 2: the Spurs, who are getting back after a COVID hiatus. 1054 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,760 Speaker 2: No Jamart Rosen half of the rotation is out. LaMarcus 1055 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:21,319 Speaker 2: Aldrin is expected to play love fading the Spurs when 1056 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,920 Speaker 2: LaMarcus Olidgers plays at least in the first quarter. I'm 1057 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:27,359 Speaker 2: leaning towards that one. I do get a pretty nice 1058 00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,520 Speaker 2: number on this. I get first half minus one at 1059 00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:34,399 Speaker 2: plus one oh two at DraftKings. My second option is 1060 00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,560 Speaker 2: Phoenix is one of the best second quarter teams in 1061 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,399 Speaker 2: the league. Okay, that second, That second in a line 1062 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,920 Speaker 2: of Cam Johnson and them and Cam Johnson and Campaign, 1063 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,440 Speaker 2: the two camps. They play absolutely fantastic night in and 1064 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,359 Speaker 2: night out. Chris Paul's plus minus in the second quarter 1065 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:54,040 Speaker 2: is insane. They finished the second quarter exceptionally well. This 1066 00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:55,799 Speaker 2: is like an important thing to note if you're like, 1067 00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,200 Speaker 2: how does that really matter? The Nuggets always lose the 1068 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,640 Speaker 2: end of the second quarter because their starters have a 1069 00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,759 Speaker 2: great start to the game. They come back in, but 1070 00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:05,880 Speaker 2: they play a lot of minutes intermixed and then they 1071 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:07,920 Speaker 2: don't push together at the end of these games. You 1072 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:09,839 Speaker 2: saw it last night versus Portland, who took a leading 1073 00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,279 Speaker 2: into the half because of that same kind of deal 1074 00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,080 Speaker 2: in reverse with the Suns, where the Suns get all 1075 00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:16,920 Speaker 2: five guys back on the floor about the five minute 1076 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,680 Speaker 2: mark of the second quarter and they absolutely roll teams. 1077 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,560 Speaker 2: The Suns in the second quarter are eighteen and twelve 1078 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,799 Speaker 2: this season. The Charlotte Hornets, who they face tonight, are 1079 00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,240 Speaker 2: ten and seventeen. That is third worst in the NBA. 1080 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:34,000 Speaker 2: Hornets have the second worst net differential second quarter. Now, 1081 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,520 Speaker 2: I bet the Jazz against them second quarter because the 1082 00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,080 Speaker 2: Jazz are the best second quarter differential in the league. 1083 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:41,759 Speaker 2: And of course, the Hornets won by three in the 1084 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,960 Speaker 2: second quarter last game, because you know, the Forces hate me. 1085 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 2: But the Hornets overall have lost six of seven of 1086 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,640 Speaker 2: their last second quarters. I'm leaning pretty heavily towards the 1087 00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,640 Speaker 2: Sun's play, but I don't know which one to go with. Actually, 1088 00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:57,920 Speaker 2: like I really liked both. 1089 00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,799 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with the Suns just because I like 1090 00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,520 Speaker 3: to trust my numbers and my numbers even when you know, 1091 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,800 Speaker 3: with the Spurs missing a ton of players with COVID, 1092 00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,479 Speaker 3: my numbers still make that game a run. I pick them. 1093 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,560 Speaker 3: The games tend to play towards the numbers. My numbers 1094 00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:17,239 Speaker 3: make the Suns a none to ten point failure. And 1095 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,759 Speaker 3: I think the Suns are just running so hot right 1096 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,880 Speaker 3: now that I think you want to keep riding that. 1097 00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:27,360 Speaker 3: And I love that bench unit with Campaign and Company, 1098 00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,520 Speaker 3: so I think you ride with that, and I think 1099 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,560 Speaker 3: you're a little bit safer. And then also, I'm Gordon 1100 00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,040 Speaker 3: Hayward is questionable tonight. 1101 00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,480 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I agree. I like both of them. I 1102 00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,800 Speaker 4: just don't trust the Thunder because you never really totally 1103 00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,439 Speaker 4: know what you're gonna get, and the Suns are playing 1104 00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,239 Speaker 4: so well. I think I prefer that. 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