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Speaker 1: boy Big Still along with Yeah, you know what monumental

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Speaker 1: week in LA for hip hops this year. You know,

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Speaker 1: Kate out had his big concert down there. Man, everybody

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Speaker 3: I think it was a good thing for the city.

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Speaker 1: I think it was cool. I think in those situations,

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Speaker 1: and marry her. You feel what I'm saying. So you

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00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: got all these women out here chasing the million dollar man.

432
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 1: They passing up to seventy five. They won't settle for them.

433
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: And that's usually the dude that the police officer, the

434
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 1: dude that the male man, the dude that might do

435
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: be head of a janitorial And our school is something

436
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: like that. You know, dudes that make got a good job, right,

437
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: might work for the city whatever. Everybody bypass them. Motherfuckers

438
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: right there, ain't shit just to go to the top,

439
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: like they really got something to offer. That motherfucker at

440
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 1: the top. We in the land of entitlement out though

441
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: it's real fucked up out of here right now.

442
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 3: Well, you know I've always said, you know, being normal

443
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 3: doesn't suit well with with the times of today, and

444
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 3: especially with a female our MOLLU then titlement thing. Uh,

445
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 3: you know, females want to be females. You know, certain

446
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 3: females want to be in a position of like you said,

447
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 3: entitlement to where I feel like, you know, you gotta

448
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 3: make a certain amount of money, you gotta live with,

449
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 3: you know, a certain class of life, you gotta drive

450
00:26:55,920 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 3: a certain type of vehicle, live in a certain zip code. Uh.

451
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 3: And it's I guess it is great to want certain ship,

452
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 3: but I guess it is pressed to the to the

453
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 3: point of where if you're not in a certain position,

454
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 3: I guess you're you're made to feel you're unworthy.

455
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: No, yeah, it's it's fucked up because you know what, man,

456
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 1: I'm glad I got a good woman in my life.

457
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 1: But it ain't no but about her. This ain't bought her,

458
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: right I look at it, man, Right now, a man

459
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: has a start really being selective about who they fucked with,

460
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 1: right right, because someone, I think someone are other mentalities

461
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: that they might have just settled fucking with you.

462
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 3: Do you feel what I mean?

463
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: If you got a woman at home, Dudes out there,

464
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: ask your woman next time, ask you the night. If

465
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: you listen to this podcast this morning, whenever you listen

466
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: to it, ask her, baby, why are you with me?

467
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: Do you wish I could be somebody else? I guarantee

468
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: you have them. Bitches is lying or every woman thinks

469
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: that they worthy of. I don't care how ugly hels.

470
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: I don't care how big their heels at a little

471
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: their heels. They think in their mind, I deserve it

472
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: to be with the motherfucker making fifteen twenty million dollars

473
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: a year, while am I with this motherfucker? He can't

474
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: go get me this, He can't go get me that king.

475
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: The titlement right, everybody feel like they deserve some shit?

476
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 3: Well, like I said, are people feeling like I don't know.

477
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 3: I guess you would have to have somebody who's strong

478
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 3: minded and who basically has probably been with you for

479
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 3: a while and has gone through situations as far as

480
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 3: struggles and and and what is looked upon right now

481
00:28:55,600 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 3: is probably like, hey, everything is great. So I I

482
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 3: don't know if it's trying to say you're cheapen in

483
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 3: yourself by like when motherfucker say I couldn't want anything more,

484
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 3: you get new. But those are people who are settled

485
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 3: with themselves. You feel me.

486
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: Where you think about what the average woman telling her

487
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: daughter nowadays? Right? And I don't know, every woman is

488
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: not the same. Every women are not a moneylift. They're

489
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: not all just the fucking the same, right, But it's

490
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: just this mentality and not just with the one that

491
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: let me get off of them for a minute. With

492
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: the men too. Everybody you meet more than that. When

493
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: you meet a new person, they are trying to get

494
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: in with you because they feel like you can change

495
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: their life somehow. Think about it, bro, hey you take

496
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: on CD, Oh hey you got my CD, he's gonna

497
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: change my wife? Or still talking about he who helped

498
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: me with this podcast. My whole life is about to change.

499
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 3: I mean, let's not you know, overshadow the fact that

500
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 3: there are some talent in motherfuckers out here, you know,

501
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 3: but there are situations where people don't understand that. You know,

502
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 3: not everybody can can be that. Uh you know, like

503
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 3: you said, people look to you probably like, oh, it's

504
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 3: think can help me start a podcast? And you don't

505
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 3: you know, outside looking in, it's always more than what's

506
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 3: expected because people don't understand reality when they're on the

507
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 3: outside looking in. Uh. I come from a time with

508
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 3: motherfucker just because you had a video and a record

509
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 3: out you was a millionaire. Situations where our nigga you

510
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 3: got money and offshore accounts and ship like that, because

511
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 3: there's no way that you making records or you were

512
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 3: you on a video or you was in that movie

513
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 3: and ship and she was sitting on a hundred five

514
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 3: of you was, man, you're a motherfucker. You were sitting

515
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 3: on moucker. Yeah, you I got nigga, My money is

516
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 3: offshore accounts and I got it here and over.

517
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: Sudden you a't help them to homies up. Uh.

518
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 3: You know, people don't understand Like myself, I didn't understand contracts,

519
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 3: but people don't understand the ins and outs. They just

520
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 3: looked from the outside and maybe see you got a

521
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 3: new pair of shoes on or so and so, and

522
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 3: you know you you considered the richest motherfucker. I think

523
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 3: the reality of today though, because it's been a lot

524
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 3: exposed in this game of hip hop and a lot

525
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 3: of shit of what you do that everything is not

526
00:31:55,760 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 3: what it seems. But unfortunately, there are some people who

527
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 3: still feel like I can be what he is, or

528
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 3: I'm just as good as he is, or I write better,

529
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 3: or my content is better or you know, because that's

530
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 3: the thing today, you're getting me. Everything is content shit.

531
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 3: Everything is content shit. So that's the name of the

532
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 3: game today. But like I said, there's some people who

533
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 3: can accept the fact that I could be normal. You're

534
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 3: getting me. I can get up and go work a

535
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 3: normal job and not feel like I'm inadequate or I'm

536
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 3: less of a motherfucker because shit, my neighbor or one

537
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 3: of my friends is making records or movies or so

538
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 3: and so, and then I got to get up every

539
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 3: morning at five o'clock and put on my clothes and

540
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 3: go punch a clock.

541
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: You know what. In beginnon like you always say, there's

542
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that life and a lot of aspects

543
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: I envy the motherfucker sometimes eight because you know what,

544
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: when you a normal motherfucker, right, the first thing you're

545
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: getting let's say you want the motherfuckers right, You're getting

546
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: to check every week every two weeks, and your job,

547
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: you have certain work hours, right, you might work for

548
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: six in the morning with two or three and a

549
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: half minom Right, when you get to come home, you

550
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: get to go do what the fuck you want. You

551
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: ain't got nobody bothering you, feel what I'm saying, right,

552
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: But like with our profession, for example, we might have

553
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: to go jump on a plane to be in the

554
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: airport for six hours out the fucking day. Right, you

555
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: gotta be away from your family. You got motherfuckers. You

556
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: can't sit at the restaurant without a motherfucker harassing you

557
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: sometimes not seeing that. We don't like talking to people

558
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: you know are fans. It's cool to me fans, but

559
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: when you go to work, that shit has turned off.

560
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: With this shit that we doing. Dog, it's twenty four

561
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: hours a fucking day. People feel like they can get

562
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: in your business or just say shit to you, saying

563
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: whatever the fuck you want to because see, when you're

564
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: the common man, you just say, oh, chill, you're doing

565
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: your thing. You go to a restaurant, if a motherfucker

566
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: dish you, you looking at them like they crazy, like like,

567
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: excuse me, you're going to put your business? Well this

568
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: shiit You open game for every motherfucker body. Well, definitely,

569
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: and you are well.

570
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 3: That comes with the territory.

571
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: Uh.

572
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 3: And I've been in the entertainment business since I was

573
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 3: fucking seventeen years old. You're open for that. And it

574
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:46,919
Speaker 3: wasn't so bad back then when I first jumped into it.

575
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 3: But now that is the direction of everything to death,

576
00:34:55,680 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 3: exposure and finding out shit and and trying to you know,

577
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 3: have a motherfucker rattle your life. It seems like the

578
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 3: norm nowadays. Like I said, back in my days, it

579
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,919
Speaker 3: wasn't so much frowned upon even if you did get

580
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:22,439
Speaker 3: into situations. But today, shit, that's the number one thing man.

581
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is, man. And don't get me wrong, I

582
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: feel less enforcement because you know, you work hard to

583
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: attain some of the things that you've have, right, But

584
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: I just tell people all the time. Stuff anytime, man,

585
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: somebody paying you to do something, and it seems like

586
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: it's easy. It's the reason why motherfuckers get the more

587
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: they get, because you can go through a bunch of

588
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: bullshit sought definitely, and it ain't none the worse it.

589
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: And you know what was bad with the music, bro,

590
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you why the music industry was so

591
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: bad with it because motherfuckers always thought you had more

592
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: than what you have. It's like your fame might be

593
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: bigger than the money you got.

594
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 3: Oh that was all well, some people that that's the case.

595
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 3: Like I said back then, in the early days, you know,

596
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 3: you fascinated with celebrities and stars and shit like that.

597
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 3: I don't know what a motherfucker was getting on their contract,

598
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 3: but you couldn't tell me a motherfucker that I was

599
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 3: watching on the big screen or listening to on a

600
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 3: record wasn't a millionaire twice over, maybe three times. It's

601
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 3: just what people anticipate from that walk of life. You

602
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 3: get me now. Shit, if you're a motherfucker delivering mail

603
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 3: every day, or you a motherfucker picking up the trash

604
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 3: every friday, or the motherfucker who classroom you walking in

605
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 3: teaching you giving enough, damn you're getting me. That's a

606
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 3: normal motherfucker. So to them, no matter, you could be

607
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 3: the four men. You could be making one hundred thousand

608
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 3: dollars a year, living in a nice comfortable crib and

609
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 3: you're good for you not to have no pressure. But

610
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 3: the expectations of the fan or the outside looking in Islam, please,

611
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 3: you know what.

612
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: I think that it is too I think that's a

613
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: big part of what it. I think people at home,

614
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,919
Speaker 1: like you know, women, children, they look at people that's

615
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 1: on TV. Oh they are doing something extraordinary, so they

616
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 1: got all this money. You feel what I mean, It's

617
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: like I think people are. I wonder how many people

618
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 1: are disappointed once they do get in the industry.

619
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 3: I guess it all depends on what your expectation is.

620
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 3: And lasaid for myself, I didn't know what the fuck

621
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 3: they expect, but my being intrigued would becoming an entertainer

622
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 3: or a rapper or whatever you want to say, gangster

623
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 3: rapper or whatever. I was just and fascinated by the situation.

624
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 3: I didn't know what the fuck the fat boys was getting.

625
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 3: I didn't know. All I seen was limos and fat

626
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 3: dookie ropes and niggas had their pictures and write all

627
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 3: magazine and word.

628
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:34,919
Speaker 1: Up and shit.

629
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 3: And I was a kid and I had all the

630
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 3: little posters up on my wall and nigga. There was

631
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 3: Eric b or Rokim nigga. There was Utfo and Heavy

632
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 3: D and the boys and shitt, and I didn't know

633
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 3: what the fuck the niggas got. The fat dukie ropes

634
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 3: and nigga they and the motherfucker limbos In. So I never,

635
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 3: I don't know. I never questioned, like nigga feel to

636
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 3: be an overnight millionaire because I was hanging around with

637
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 3: regular niggas who was These niggas is doing beats and

638
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 3: got studios and shit like that, and these niggas just

639
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 3: as broke as me and nigga, I'm just a young

640
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 3: hustler and shit and so it. Never, I don't know.

641
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 3: I never thought of the money and up to me

642
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 3: as a motherfucking naive minded kid. Nigga, I thought you

643
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 3: made it just by being able to put a record out.

644
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: Yes, real, I hear it.

645
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 3: I don't know if I even thought about it. You

646
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 3: know what, am I finna make some fucking money? Or

647
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 3: for if my nigga Finny have be a fat dookie,

648
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 3: you'd be a couple of liberal rideses.

649
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: You ain't thinking about all that. You just thinking about

650
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: the old papa, really just gonna do your ship. But

651
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: you know what's funny. You put your first record out

652
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: what thirty years ago? Sh yeah, thirty years ago. So

653
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 1: I was listening to some shit the white she said,

654
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: and why she I ain't gonna say he's a new artist.

655
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: He's been in the game for a minute now. But

656
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: I learned him say, man, he was like, I didn't

657
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 1: make no money with diff Jim. I'm side to check

658
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: that they gave me when I first signed here out

659
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: to see no more money from them. So you think

660
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 1: about it, shit ain't changed. She said, he got this

661
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: stuff right now. That seemed like everybody kind of get

662
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: that introduction because they taking the risks. They are taking

663
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 1: the risks. You know. It's because for every other artists

664
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: to come out, man, I think maybe only twenty five

665
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: thirty percent of them actually working.

666
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 3: Paying out contracts are fucking tricky, you get me. I

667
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 3: don't know if anybody really and I don't know, but

668
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 3: like I said, being young and naive and not having

669
00:40:54,600 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 3: the knowledge of entertainment contracts and points and publishing and

670
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 3: all that type of shit, a lot of us were

671
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 3: naive as far as what the bottom line is gonna be. Shit.

672
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 3: I put out three records in my first career and

673
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 3: I've never seen a royalty check, and a lot of

674
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 3: niggas are in the same situation. You try to make

675
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 3: money off of what they're gonna advance you to make

676
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 3: the record. That's how you try to get some money

677
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 3: in your pocket, and you know what you can make

678
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 3: successfully off of touring because if you have your contracts

679
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 3: set up straight, label ain't getting none of your tour

680
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 3: and shit. So you get the pocket all of that.

681
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 3: But as far as you know, signing your first deal

682
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 3: and thinking you should have put out a record, that

683
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 3: motherfucker ain't even come to tell you, Nigga, you gotta

684
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 3: platinum record, And Nigga, you're sitting up at home going

685
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 3: I got a platinum, but I'm still sitting up at home.

686
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 3: You get me. I'm in the same spot I was

687
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 3: in eight months ago with a platinum record because you realize, Nigga,

688
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 3: theyin't charge you for licking a staff in that motherfucker.

689
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 3: You get me, and you don't really pay attention to that, Like, Okay,

690
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 3: I'm going back and forth to New York and were

691
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 3: doing these contracts and these deals, and Nigga, I'm going

692
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 3: to have lunch here and I'm doing this and that,

693
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,479
Speaker 3: and the whole time they going charge back, charge back,

694
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 3: charge back, charge back, so you could have a motherfucking

695
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 3: platinum rentor and still, like Nigga, I didn't see it

696
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 3: dying when that Rason.

697
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: Don't see anybody else sit on your uh on your seat,

698
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: which is that you know they got the seat that

699
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,720
Speaker 1: they show you all the bills that you get the plays.

700
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: Did you ever see any other artist shit on your ship? No?

701
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 3: I mean when when I did my first projects, we didn't.

702
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 3: I didn't do guests, appearances and shit. I didn't start

703
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 3: getting people on my records until made me my third

704
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 3: album because a known who probably knew the cost of

705
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 3: shit and knowing that this hand was in the pot,

706
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 3: This hand's in the pot, this hand is in the pot.

707
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 3: By the time the money come to me, I'm really

708
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 3: the nigga who has to go out and pay for

709
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 3: this record to get done right. So by him being

710
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 3: able to control that shit knowing at that time, shit,

711
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 3: a nigga cost you thirty thousand to get on his

712
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 3: gil record and getting me back then it wasn't no

713
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 3: you know, savor for a favor or you know beat

714
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 3: Bakers was like, oh man here, let me man I respect,

715
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 3: let me give you this beat and whatever and blah blah.

716
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 3: Nigga back then it was oh, you want to say,

717
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 3: you want to beat from Dre, you want to beat

718
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 3: from whoever? The producers was at the time, may you

719
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 3: spending anywhere between five and twenty thousand for one single beat?

720
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 3: So when you were controlling that shit, Now I got

721
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 3: ninety thouts. You think I'm finna give up twenty to

722
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 3: pay for a nigga to be old eights w rec man. Please,

723
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 3: we ain't give no guest of benches. And that's why

724
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 3: we I'm gonna control the production. So even if I

725
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 3: did want beats from another motherfucker, it wasn't able to

726
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 3: happen because a nigga knowing the actuality. We ain't got

727
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 3: no million dollar budget. Hell, lor nigga, I got ninety grand,

728
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 3: and fifty percent of that I want to stick in

729
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 3: my pocket. So now I got to figure out a

730
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 3: way to really do this record for about thirty grand.

731
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 1: Yes, you need to get you some money. And that's

732
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: what it was cool for you to work in house with.

733
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 3: Your own producer others, right, I mean, but that's why

734
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 3: I was kept in house all the way, you know.

735
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 3: And I just figured by the time I was able

736
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,439
Speaker 3: to take over, I might as well keep the shit

737
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 3: in the house.

738
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna start.

739
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 3: Running to you know, so and so and so and

740
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 3: so and so and so, because now I'm gonna be

741
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,720
Speaker 3: in the same position. Nigga, I got motherfucking two hundred

742
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 3: thousand and beats is twenty grand. You're getting to complete

743
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 3: a whole record, is my whole budget. So you have

744
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 3: to you have to start producing for yourself or working

745
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,240
Speaker 3: with a team of motherfuckers that you go, I'm setting

746
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 3: this aside for the budget as far as production go,

747
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 3: and this what it is. So that's what you have

748
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 3: to start doing. But knowledge don't come along because when

749
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 3: you're young and naive, man, you just the dream of

750
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 3: just taking yourself out of what you're going through every days,

751
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,720
Speaker 3: especially if you're a nigga in the hood, selling dope,

752
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 3: gang banging, or just being a poverty. Motherfucker. I don't

753
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 3: want to take myself out of this. Nigga dangle fifteen

754
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 3: grand in your face. You think you that's gonna change everything.

755
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 3: You're not knowing that ends and out. So it's difficult,

756
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 3: and like you said, everything is like a miarage. It's

757
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 3: not what it seems because niggas will be fronting like nigga,

758
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 3: I got ten million off of this shit and knowing

759
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 3: damn we all know you though, there's no way possible

760
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 3: if you do that, the actual real situations of a

761
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 3: contract and how points work and how them motherfucker's charging

762
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 3: My fucker, I was on the phone for an hour

763
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 3: with your old manager. A thousand dollars everything is charged

764
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 3: back to you.

765
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: You feel me. So it's kind of rough, you know what, though, Man,

766
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: I'll tell everybody I've been in some movies and shit. Man,

767
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: I like to I think acting shit out of all

768
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: this shit, I think angling is probably best ship. Yeah,

769
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: acting is probably the best shit they get paid. You know.

770
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: I think that's because they got a union and you.

771
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: I think I think that needs to be a union

772
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: of music, because you still got the same shit that

773
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 1: was going on thirty years ago go on today. Today

774
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: it's a little bit better because you got companies like

775
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:23,919
Speaker 1: Empire and.

776
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 3: Shit like that.

777
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 1: You know, the structure they did, it's a little bit

778
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: more artists friendly. You know, they actually given catch their

779
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: own labels and shit like that. So I think it's

780
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: a little bit better today, man, But it's still a

781
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: lot of fuck we going on there.

782
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 3: It is because motherfucker's still picking choose who they want

783
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 3: to invest in. It's still not a fair playing field

784
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 3: of you know you got a good song. You got

785
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 3: a good song. So same thing we do for you,

786
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 3: you know we do for them, we're gonna do for you.

787
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 3: It doesn't work like that if you got gonna invest

788
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 3: in my project and how my shit's gonna make any

789
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 3: noise like you doing the other motherfucker. You know they

790
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 3: got videos, they got billboards, You're scheduling clubs for them

791
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 3: because you believe in that project. I always feel that

792
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 3: if you don't believe in the shit and you don't

793
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 3: feel you can do what you can do for anybody

794
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 3: else can. A lot of times that's how motherfuckers get

795
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 3: caught up in these deals and then situations turn. The

796
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 3: situations turn real ugly and nasty sometimes in these situations

797
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:42,760
Speaker 3: of label bills and independence, because you want a fair shot,

798
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 3: justlke the you know, the rest of motherfuckers, because you

799
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 3: feel your shit is just as good might be, might

800
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,439
Speaker 3: not be. And I guess that's where you gotta roll

801
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 3: the dice. But there's a lot of good shit that's

802
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 3: being overlooked it because people just have their preferences of

803
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 3: what they want to believe in.

804
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 1: Well, I just think, man, and again we go back

805
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 1: for the regular person ship, right, you staying a better

806
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: shot man making a bunch of money by finding you

807
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: a trade or some shit like that, something that you

808
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: want to do. If you say, okay, I want to

809
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 1: fix cars, you can make millions of dollars doing that.

810
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 3: Right.

811
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying. I think we look too

812
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: much to entertainment and the business man that wears so

813
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: many jobs. That's like everybody inspire us to play at

814
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: the NBA, NFL be a rapper. There's only so many

815
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,240
Speaker 1: spots for that shit. And it's a fresh new croper,

816
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: motherfucker's coming every year. Not just them, but the ones

817
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: that still think they could play. You might be a

818
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: four twenty five year old rookie. You ain't just competing

819
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: against the niggas that they traveling next you. You competing against

820
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: the dudes that might be in the league three or

821
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: four years. You might be going against a cat that

822
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: played three or four years. You know what I'm saying,

823
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: three four years the league that might have took a

824
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: year off or whatever. Because even want to go back

825
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,720
Speaker 1: to the greeting, I eat back. You're going to gainst

826
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: all that stuff. It's way he'sier man to go get you.

827
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: Some regular shit going up. Yeah, it's hard to convince

828
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: people of that though, like not seeing nobody shouldn't drink,

829
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: but but me, just you know what this is I'm having. Man,

830
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: I'm having one of them because you know, I just

831
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 1: have my birthday. It's like, you know, I'm a gym bikes.

832
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: Like you think, the older you get, the more you

833
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: start thinking different. You feel what I'm saying right, because

834
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 1: I would have done so much shit different if I

835
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 1: was young. Brea again, man, yeah, you you.

836
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 3: I think once you get to a certain age to

837
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 3: where I don't want to say you're you're you're comfortable

838
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 3: with with shit, but you in a different place and

839
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 3: can understand shit a little bit better, how life going,

840
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 3: and how you really can't focus on shit you can't control.

841
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,760
Speaker 3: And I think the older we get, we start realizing

842
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:16,479
Speaker 3: that there's just certain situations that whether good or bad,

843
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 3: it just happens, and you have to be able to

844
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 3: accept what's in your path. I think, you know, we

845
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 3: all get to a point to where we start thinking, man,

846
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 3: if I knew this shit, I wouldn't have done that,

847
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 3: or I wouldn't have done that. But then I look

848
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 3: at those uh, those are the lessons that we have

849
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 3: to learn going through life without the hand being held

850
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 3: or you know, like sometimes I say about with my

851
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 3: son or with anybody. Uh, you know, I'm I'm older

852
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 3: then and been through more experiences. Sometimes I tell motherfuckers

853
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 3: if they're gonna have to learn, you know, for themselves?

854
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 1: Yeah you do. You know what's funny?

855
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 3: And I think some situations had to happen for you

856
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 3: to be able to look back on shit and be

857
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 3: able to accept shit today. Because if they didn't happen,

858
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 3: how you know, you would be able to be in

859
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 3: control if that check didn't come, or you couldn't get

860
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 3: this deal to go down. But because you've been through

861
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 3: situations in your life that you had to take that

862
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 3: step and you had to learn them from it is

863
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 3: why you can go through ship today and go yeah

864
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 3: or no, you're getting situations come on, situations come about today.

865
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 3: It's not even the contemplation. It's yeah, I can do

866
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 3: that shit or nah, too bad, man, I can't do

867
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 3: that shit.

868
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much. You know what I just found out.

869
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: It's got some information there. He is a hip hop

870
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: unity and I guess some sudden deep from public enemy

871
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: curtis blowing Doggie Fresh all the ogs. They got a

872
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 1: it's called the Hip Hop Alliance. I guess the Hip

873
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: Hop Alliance has already formed a strategic partnership with the

874
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: Screen Actors Give American Federation of Television and Radio Artists.

875
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 1: The collaborative difference between the two organizations with focus on

876
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: our reaching engagement with from the hip hop and the

877
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: R and B community, the affiliation with benefit artists and

878
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: being treated fairly informed of contractual obligations. The ignorantble pay

879
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 1: has one of the initiatives between two organizations.

880
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 3: But have you heard anything about this? I don't think so.

881
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 3: I heard something about something where they was trying to

882
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 3: give you know, dudes who they didn't feel that they

883
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 3: just do or paid their dues. They were given them

884
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 3: money or some shit like that.

885
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:55,919
Speaker 1: This could be some good stuff, but if you ain't

886
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: heard about it, they're not doing a good example of

887
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: marking it. And they I'd always well, that's what would

888
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: have to happen, if they would probably have to look

889
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: up with sag and after him.

890
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, but will they be considered, as you know,

891
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 3: on the same page as Sag and After. As far

892
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 3: as actors and actresses are concerned.

893
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 1: Well, didn that mean you would have to have like oh,

894
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 1: I guess the music. It would be the equivalent like

895
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: what union skill is. You know how motherfucker's got a

896
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: certain amount that you gotta pay somebody. Maybe they say, okay,

897
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: a record deal at minimum has to be as many

898
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,399
Speaker 1: points in order for it to be fair. Or they

899
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: got to get their masters back if they were cooping

900
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: three years or some shit like that five years, you know.

901
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 3: Right, hip hops, like I said, we've been fround to

902
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 3: fall upon for a lot long time. Still, I don't

903
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 3: think we've ever been able to get our just do

904
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 3: and be considered equal as other you know, especially in

905
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 3: certain situations where you know, rap has been put on

906
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 3: the stand. You know, when niggas you know, would try

907
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 3: to cop out and say, oh I shot a motherfucker

908
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:21,720
Speaker 3: because I was listening to Sew and so. But violent

909
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 3: movies never got that rap, you feel me. Or I

910
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 3: was watching motherfucking Good Sellers and nigga, I went and

911
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 3: shot up a bank full of people or some shit

912
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 3: because I saw Goodfellas last night, Or I saw a

913
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 3: terminator and so I just wanted to walk in and

914
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 3: just shoot a bunch of motherfuckers and blame it on terminator.

915
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 3: You me, it's never had that, that's that rap. But

916
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:56,359
Speaker 3: we've always been frowned upon. So maybe because of that

917
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 3: is why we can never be considered equal like you said, yeah,

918
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 3: and it would it would be a good thing. Like

919
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 3: I said, I've always talked about, you know, having hip

920
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 3: hop healthcare and niggas be signed to these labels and

921
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 3: producing all this income. And then you know, uh, why

922
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 3: can't I get on the labels health plan? Why can't

923
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 3: I get on I'm.

924
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: Pretty sure that people are marketing and he and Earl

925
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 1: all they got health benefits.

926
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 3: I mean shit, the niggas in the mail room, the

927
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 3: people answering the phones, the secretaries in the front of

928
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 3: the offices. You know that, the average motherfuckers.

929
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 1: You said when you were signing Sony, you couldn't negotiate

930
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 1: that in your contract and saying, you know what, I'm

931
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: gonna have health benefits, I won't.

932
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 3: I guess if we would have been smart enough to

933
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 3: consider that, it should have been considered like, as long

934
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 3: as I'm signed here for the length of my contract,

935
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 3: I should have y'all health care you're getting instead of

936
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 3: having to try to break my pockets to pay for

937
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 3: some decent health care, you know, for me or my

938
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 3: my children or whatever. Why not because I'm pretty sure

939
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 3: or I'm whatever. I'm signing a contract, so I should

940
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 3: be considered, you know, under as some kind of employee.

941
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: You would think.

942
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 3: Record company, Yeah, we partners, So then they get on

943
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 3: your good health plan because I don't have one.

944
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I guess they probably record company probably make

945
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: money off of deer reference. It makes you realize that

946
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: all behind we use a lot of shit.

947
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 3: Well, well, I don't know if it's just being just

948
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 3: being thick headed as a as a youth, not having

949
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 3: the knowledge to care for self, to feel like, man,

950
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 3: before I go buy alex a weed or motherfucking blicky

951
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 3: or wootie, won't I will get myself some health for

952
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 3: the sure getting me. Won't think about that ship, I don't.

953
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: I don't.

954
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 3: I guess if that's feeling like because being uneducated about

955
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 3: like I said, uh, being uneducated about your health as

956
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 3: a young man, that was something you didn't think about.

957
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, but let me ask you this. Did your mom

958
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 1: every talk to you about insurance and having health care

959
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: and making sure you kept your credit straight and all

960
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 1: that like, be real, because I ain't never had the conversations.

961
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 3: With my pet no. I mean, and you probably figured

962
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 3: a lot of our elders who came from the struggle,

963
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 3: they wouldn't put in those situations. You're getting me my grandfather,

964
00:58:56,560 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 3: you know Mississippi and you know peg farm and ship

965
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 3: like that. Ain't telling the motherfucker like you know, you

966
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 3: take care of your taxes and what eve.

967
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: Mon fucker survive. So that's what I'm telling you this.

968
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this. I think that, and I

969
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: know it's a percentage of black people that do have

970
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: their come with these tele SEMs. I know. I for

971
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: sure talk to my kids about keeping their credit good.

972
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 3: I mean, but you're actually you got educated today. That's

973
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 3: what mean. I can tell my son today, like we

974
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 3: have talks and I'd be like, you know, you got

975
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 3: to watch your spending and you don't want to do this,

976
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 3: and your credit is important and you don't want to

977
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 3: go out and do that and do that and then

978
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 3: you know if you got a phone bill or you

979
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 3: gotta this, or you that you know, pay your ship

980
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 3: on time.

981
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 1: Fiscally responsible motherfucker.

982
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 3: You know, because you you want that. That's my thing.

983
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 3: You want to save your and that, and that's just my,

984
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 3: uh my thought of it. You want to save a

985
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 3: motherfucker from going through a lot of shit that you

986
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 3: went through because it was fucked up shit. And I

987
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 3: know that as a as a parent, I don't want

988
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 3: a motherfucker to have to go through that shit. That

989
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 3: was some fuck up shit I went.

990
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 1: Man, our kids shouldn't go through miss off left and

991
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 1: hard that we've been through exactly.

992
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 3: So, not that they shouldn't learn and they shouldn't you know,

993
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 3: be able to get off situations on their own. But

994
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 3: I'm the type of motherfucker if I can prevent you

995
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 3: from you know, if I can prevent you from going

996
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 3: through this, this and this, because at your age, I

997
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 3: went through that, and if I could avoided that shit,

998
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 3: if somebody would have educated me to all nigga when

999
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 3: you're nineteen you don't want to do that, or you

1000
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 3: don't want to do that, or if I just had

1001
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 3: a motherfucker that I didn't have that because I was

1002
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 3: in a situation where it was moms just trying to

1003
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 3: get you know, maintain your family when your parents separate.

1004
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 3: It's like so while moms was trying to support and

1005
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:30,479
Speaker 3: stable the household. It left us to the vices. There

1006
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 3: was nobody else to go. Hey, y'all, y'all don't do that. No,

1007
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,959
Speaker 3: we was left to our own vices. And it wasn't

1008
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 3: like my sister was like, come on, come on, we

1009
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 3: gonna be My sister was like, nigga clean, this is

1010
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 3: the hood.

1011
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 1: You know what. I'm sorry us to see, ma'am with

1012
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 1: our listeners. Man, what percentage of whose parents talking about

1013
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 1: having their credit right? Because all that shit is important?

1014
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,479
Speaker 1: Shit man, I mean it is because, like you said,

1015
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 1: your credit, getting health insurance and making sure if you

1016
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 1: all want to insurance.

1017
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 3: Because at some point you want your kid to succeed

1018
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 3: and if you can succeed over me, I would be

1019
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 3: very great. So that is that is the model. I

1020
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 3: just you know, I just wish for, you know, all

1021
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 3: the young homies to really try to craft themselves into

1022
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 3: being artists. You're getting me, let's make some music and

1023
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 3: let's you know, we had shootouts and we had niggas

1024
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 3: died from the hoods and all that type of ship,

1025
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 3: but we dealt with situations. We dealt with those situations differently.

1026
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 3: You're getting me, this is something for us to try

1027
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 3: to enjoy uh as as as black people. You know,

1028
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 3: we came up with this hip hop ship. A lot

1029
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 3: of motherfuckers were trying to move into our territory and

1030
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 3: our neighborhood and basically get us out, so to speak.

1031
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 3: We got a lot of outsiders who come into the

1032
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 3: game and try to make themselves efficient. But we have

1033
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 3: to learn that this is our music and we don't

1034
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 3: want to keep jeopardizing it. You get me. We don't

1035
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 3: want to go back to them days where motherfuckers is

1036
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 3: scared of our ship. You're getting me. And if all

1037
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 3: our music is I'm gonna go kill Tony next week

1038
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 3: or you give me life, how is that? How is

1039
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 3: that entertainment for?

1040
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 1: You know?

1041
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 3: And then it leads our youth for stray because now

1042
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 3: music is gonna be turned into really just just beefing music,

1043
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 3: you get me, or or or affiliation music, like all

1044
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:59,439
Speaker 3: songs are gonna turn into We're gonna kill y'all next

1045
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 3: week and then okay, so now we're gonna kill Tony.

1046
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 3: And then we killed Tony with the a K and

1047
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 3: Johnny shot Y and he got out and ran up

1048
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 3: on the nigga and then we Shoty two times, and

1049
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 3: you know it's weird, like there'll be some bullshit. If

1050
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 3: if y'all want to if if you want to, uh

1051
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 3: tell on yourselves or talk about you know whatever, there's

1052
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 3: other ways. You know, just just go bang, Just go

1053
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 3: just go bang leading music alone and just bang.

1054
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, they show and ship man, y'all leave us coming

1055
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 1: and rate we out here Jim Well. That concludes another

1056
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 1: episode of The Gainst the Chronicles podcast. Be sure to

1057
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 1: downloaded I Heard app and subscribe to The Gangst the

1058
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:46,280
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1059
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:48,280
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1060
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 1: a coming and rating. Executive producers for The Gangst the

1061
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 1: Chronicles podcast Norman Steell, Aaron M. C tyler. Our visual

1062
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:57,960
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1063
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:01,160
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1064
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