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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 1: Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we

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Speaker 1: are going to discuss why a high school is banning

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Speaker 1: those super cool, trendy water bottles. A physician who left

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Speaker 1: in the middle of surgery to have sex with a nurse.

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Speaker 1: A couple from Queens who were violently murdered, a drunk

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Speaker 1: driver that had their drunk driving device removed from their

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Speaker 1: vehicle months before they killed someone in a drunk driving accident.

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Speaker 1: People who are afraid of fruit, Yes, you heard me fruit,

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Speaker 1: and a dad who died at his son's funeral. All

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Speaker 1: that and more on today's episode. Why is this high

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Speaker 1: school banning the super cool Stanley cups?

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Speaker 2: So they're trying to say because it's holding up security

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Speaker 2: screening and because anybody could put anything in it. Of

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Speaker 2: course they have to confirm the contents of the cup.

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Speaker 2: I would morally, I would more so think it was

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Speaker 2: because they could be used as weapons.

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Speaker 3: They're heavy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's what that's what I was thinking at first. Too.

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Speaker 1: We've had a couple stories, didn't We have a story

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Speaker 1: of a kid that killed his grandmom or something with

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Speaker 1: the Stanley Cup months back, and they can I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're heavy and they can cause blunt trauma. So that's

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Speaker 1: why you would think and every single kid has one

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Speaker 1: of them. But they're saying, and this makes sense actually,

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Speaker 1: because do you remember that time we had the story

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Speaker 1: about the Stanley cups are being they're covered in lead

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Speaker 1: and then they have this other covering over them. Remember

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Speaker 1: a mom like did testing on it and said that

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Speaker 1: there was like lead in it. Yeah, so if a

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Speaker 1: portion of the cup is lined in lead, that could

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Speaker 1: affect the X rays of going through security to get

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Speaker 1: into a school, right, And in theory, I guess you

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Speaker 1: could put like a knife in the cop. You could

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Speaker 1: put a weapon in the cop. And maybe that's why

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Speaker 1: they're I mean, they're not going to open them and

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Speaker 1: check them for vodka because that could be in a

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Speaker 1: clear bottle too. It's not that they're just trying to

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Speaker 1: check for an actual weapon being smuggled in.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess the first comment I have to

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Speaker 2: make is it's just sad we live in a society

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Speaker 2: where our high schoolers have to get screened going into school.

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Speaker 2: But that's obvious now. And then I thought this too,

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Speaker 2: because we were shocked at the airport even last week

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Speaker 2: that people had Stanley's. But I guess you could bring

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Speaker 2: them through TSA if they're empty, But I don't know,

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Speaker 2: like I think they could be seriously hurtful. I actually

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Speaker 2: was listening to another show a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 2: and some like a listener wrote in and said that

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Speaker 2: they felt bad because their Stanley fell from the overhead

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Speaker 2: compartment and hit somebody in the head below. Like that

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Speaker 2: could hurt really bad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it could, but that's not even why they're removing

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Speaker 1: them in this case. But let me read you some

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Speaker 1: of the quotes because this is actually more interesting, all right,

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Speaker 1: So that so all the kids are in an uproar

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Speaker 1: and they're having like, let's sign a petition to fight

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Speaker 1: this blah blah blah quote. We are the students believe

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Speaker 1: this policy places an unneeded burden on a student seeking

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Speaker 1: to meet.

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Speaker 4: Their daily hydration needs.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, shut the hell up.

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Speaker 2: Like I didn't even drink water the whole time I

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Speaker 4: I didn't drink water until I was twenty years old.

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Speaker 2: Like really, yet nobody that grew up before like two

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Speaker 2: thousand drank water during the day at school.

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Speaker 1: When I was a little kid, like bottled water didn't

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm serious, at least where I lived.

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Speaker 1: So really, I always tell this story, like my mom

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Speaker 1: would give me a capricen in my lunch box and

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Speaker 1: that was it for the entire day. One capri son

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Speaker 1: going outside for recess, running around, and then you had

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Speaker 1: a drink off the nasty, asty water fountain, right that

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Speaker 1: every other king as they are gross, But.

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Speaker 4: You would be like, oh my god, this is the

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Speaker 4: best thing ever because.

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Speaker 1: You were like dying so and and you can, like

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Speaker 1: I do understand from the parents perspective, because for me,

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Speaker 1: I've invested probably hundreds of dollars in these stupid water bottles.

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Speaker 2: And they're falling into trends because you can't.

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Speaker 3: It's not my fault.

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Speaker 2: It's one of those cups that's not one of those

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Speaker 3: It's hard.

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Speaker 4: The kids won't carry it. They won't.

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Speaker 1: That's say it's your problem for falling in. That's it's

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Speaker 1: my problem. But it's not my fault because I will.

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Speaker 1: I think that they're dumb. They weigh half of the

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Speaker 1: child's wait, Like, I just think they're dumb all around. Right,

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Speaker 1: But as a parent that's invested, because now Stanley's aren't

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Speaker 1: cool anymore. Now it's like a Wallas or whatever.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: Every year there's like a trending thing.

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Speaker 1: So now I got a cabinet full these things, and

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Speaker 1: now the school's telling me they can't use them. You

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Speaker 1: have to get them a new thing. But then the

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Speaker 1: one that they want them to get is plastic. I

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Speaker 1: don't really want my kid drinking out of plastic all

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Speaker 3: I've been seeing a.

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Speaker 2: Lot of glass cups like that, Like, are you that's

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Speaker 4: To be practical either with a child.

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Speaker 2: No, But I'm just saying, like, if it has to

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Speaker 4: Just like I don't know.

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Speaker 1: So the parents are all like in a tizzy, and

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Speaker 1: everybody's in a tizzy. And then one of the moms

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Speaker 1: was saying, oh, this was a good one. Nobody's going

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Speaker 1: to want to drink warm water like there, I guess

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Speaker 1: the clear ones aren't going to keep the water warm.

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Speaker 2: Well, I actually don't like cold water. I find that

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Speaker 2: drinking lukewarm water is actually better for me and I

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Speaker 1: That's literally what I was thinking. That's what I was

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Speaker 1: thinking too. I was like, I never ever drink water

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Speaker 1: from the refrigerator ever. It hurts my teeth or something,

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Speaker 1: and it does, and it is difficult to drink.

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Speaker 4: It's good like when you're if you're like really really.

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Speaker 1: Thirsty and you're in a situation, it does. Like let's

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Speaker 1: say you're in Disney World and you want like a drink,

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Speaker 1: like cold water would definitely be better, but like in

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Speaker 1: a normal situation where you're just trying to pound like

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Speaker 1: it's easier when it's warm.

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Speaker 2: I know you didn't want to keep you up at

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Speaker 2: the Kardashians, but there's an episode where like Kim Kardashian

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Speaker 3: Dying, and that's talking about the situation.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, listen, it's annoying in an inconvenience, but like,

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Speaker 2: your life is not ruined over this.

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Speaker 3: Just go get a freaking class.

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Speaker 2: Why.

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Speaker 4: I'm just like, we can't have our hydration needs.

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Speaker 1: It's just exactly, You're just like that is some chad

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Speaker 1: the news this week, Like there's definitely other things going on,

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Speaker 1: like one crazy story we're going to be talking about,

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Speaker 1: which you know, I'll say that when we get to

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Speaker 1: that story. Let's let's get on to the next one.

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Speaker 1: I saw this on our local news, Just ransoms on

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right.

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Speaker 2: So in the UK, a patient was undergoing gall bladder

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Speaker 2: removal surgery and that's when the anesthesiologist just decided that

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Speaker 2: have sex with a nurse in another operating room.

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Speaker 1: Well really, I mean, if that's not bad enough, the

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Speaker 1: reason that he did this was because him and his

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Speaker 2: So not only are you leaving a patient in the

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Speaker 2: also going to be cheating on your wife and then

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Speaker 2: try to say it was due to your premature baby.

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Speaker 3: Total piece of shit.

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Speaker 4: He really is a piece of shit on multiple levels.

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Speaker 1: Like imagine imagine being a mother that gives birth to

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Speaker 1: the baby going to be okay? Like that's just stressful enough,

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Speaker 1: and then having your husband cheat on you, which is terrible,

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Speaker 1: and then have it being broadcasted all over the news,

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Speaker 1: and then him blaming it on your sick lies.

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Speaker 4: Baby, Yeah, exactly what a loser.

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Speaker 2: Well, I I was thinking that too. This must just

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Speaker 2: be so embarrassing for the wife. And hopefully she's like,

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Speaker 2: you know, I think most people I've seen commenting on

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Speaker 2: the story, I also agree this guy is a loser.

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Speaker 2: So hopefully for her it was a good riddance at

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Speaker 2: least she revealed yourself now and whatever.

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Speaker 1: You know, what's an interesting topic. You know how when

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Speaker 1: romantic relationships going on here for sure, to like meet ups,

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Speaker 1: hook ups, and we of course were like super curious

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Speaker 1: about that. Hospitals are the same thing. There's like people

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Speaker 1: always I don't want to say always, it's not like happy,

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Speaker 1: but there's people that are having sex at the hospital.

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Speaker 1: There's there's bedrooms in the hospital for the residents and

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Speaker 1: I know, people that have like it's a thing I

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Speaker 1: A don't think you should.

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Speaker 2: I mean he was gone for eight minutes, So like

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Speaker 2: as as a regular person, I'm assuming that's a long time,

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Speaker 2: Like you should not be leaving at all unless you're

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Speaker 2: like running to the bathroom real quick, right, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean surgeons, Listen, some surgeries go a long time, twelve hours, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: surgeon might take a break to like eat, like you said,

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Speaker 1: to come back. We could take a break, but like

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Speaker 1: someone's monitoring the patient and everything like that. But to

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Speaker 1: just go whip one out for eight minutes, no, but

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Speaker 1: also somebody because for that surgery, you don't get cut

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Speaker 1: it laparoscopically, but it also could have been open to

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Speaker 1: it just depends.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So like I guess what I'm getting at is,

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Speaker 2: like what about the whole scene.

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Speaker 3: Makes you like corny at that moment.

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Speaker 2: It is it is, it's giving imputation for and a little.

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Speaker 1: Bit and what and what like from a woman's perspective,

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Speaker 1: like going in another room and banging it out for

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Speaker 1: eight minutes when like, and it's a cheating situation, Like

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Speaker 1: what are you getting out of it?

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Speaker 2: Because that cheaters are like that they think it's like

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Speaker 2: so hot and then they got caught by another coach.

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Speaker 1: Of course, it's hot for the guy for sure, but like,

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Speaker 1: what's the woman getting out of it?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: I think the women think it's hot too.

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Speaker 1: And plus, like, I mean, we never find out about

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Speaker 4: Yeah. This I saw this story. What day did this happen?

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Speaker 1: Well, nobody should just be standing there with a gum

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Speaker 2: That cos obviously, But I'm just saying, like, not in

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Speaker 3: And then they'll be.

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Speaker 2: Like, how's your pest control? I see some ants on

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Speaker 1: They are annoying, and we live on a tight street

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Speaker 1: so we all are aware to not answer our door,

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Speaker 4: Does this guy know these people because.

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Speaker 2: He is claiming they molested him when he was a child,

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Speaker 2: But I have see no further reports on that, So.

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Speaker 1: So this is either true or it's like he's just

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Speaker 2: I mean, I would go with option B that he

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Speaker 4: Went to the movies.

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Speaker 1: He went to how do you stab someone to death?

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Speaker 1: And set a person on fire? And set the house

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Is it possible, though.

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Speaker 1: That that he knew that he knew them that's why

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Speaker 4: It's just impossibly.

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Speaker 2: But older people, I think also just want to think

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Speaker 2: New Jersey. So there's recently a fatal car accident where

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Speaker 1: Well, this is the thing. There's a lot of statistics,

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Speaker 1: It's just not that no, And like this guy was

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Speaker 4: What is says doing?

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Speaker 2: It's not doing anything, And clearly he didn't learn his lesson,

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, what is going on in this person's

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Speaker 1: Mean both times that he was caught, well, the first

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Speaker 2: Well, it's just like alcoholic behavior. Yeah, and clearly, clearly,

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Speaker 2: I mean listen, clearly this person had not been just

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Speaker 1: What like, what would be the negative? Honestly, because if

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Speaker 1: the problem with just saying, like, you're having this thing

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Speaker 2: I thought it was at least a year you had

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Speaker 1: I mean, because really, if you had it on someone's

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Speaker 1: So this is another question I have too. When you

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Speaker 1: So you're really just not supposed to drink, which is

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Speaker 4: You just don't.

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Speaker 1: You just can't drink and drive. That'sould just be a

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Speaker 1: of that and tell people that he was trying to

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00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 1: drive and couldn't drive because he was too drunk, or

443
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Speaker 1: does it just not art the car and like nobody's

444
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 1: monitoring that thing.

445
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:04,160
Speaker 3: That's interesting.

446
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,960
Speaker 2: I would say the more modern ones probably have some recording,

447
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 2: like some data recording, don't you think maybe And do

448
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 2: you get penalized if you do try to get in there?

449
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:15,360
Speaker 4: Yeah?

450
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,439
Speaker 1: Because think about that, like if you're hanging out with

451
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,920
Speaker 1: a person, because like tends to hang usually it's not

452
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,439
Speaker 1: like a sober or a person that doesn't drink with

453
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 1: like a complete drunk person, right, So like you would

454
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 1: have to find someone to breathe in it to start

455
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 1: the car for you that that didn't have any alcohol

456
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 1: in their system. It would be a terrible inconvenience if

457
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,159
Speaker 1: you actually drank a lot like to be able to

458
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 1: bypass it and for years that would that might take

459
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 1: a toll to get a person to drink less. Maybe

460
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what the like with

461
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 1: the psychology is behind it or anything. But like now,

462
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 1: the the guy that he killed wasn't wearing a seatbelt

463
00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 1: and was ejected, which I don't understand. Why people get

464
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 1: in the car and don't put the seatbelt on. But

465
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 1: that's whatever people want to do.

466
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 2: But might he might have been drunk too, You don't,

467
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 2: yeah exactly because they didn't release that every.

468
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,440
Speaker 1: But it's just like yeah, like you're twenty one years

469
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 1: old and it's just like so now you're in trouble.

470
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 1: But like it's the same thing with with Jake Harrow

471
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 1: killing the baby, and like it's just like when is

472
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 1: it that the judges it's their responsibility too, Like you're

473
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 1: handing out these like candy sentences and like people are

474
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 1: reoffending all the time.

475
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 2: This is what bothers me too. So they're saying people

476
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 2: are submitting letters vouching for his character and trying to

477
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,399
Speaker 2: get him released to a substance abuse program, Like okay,

478
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,679
Speaker 2: so he'll get sober and then just get drunk and

479
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 2: do it again. He can get substance abuse help in

480
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 2: prison because he murdered somebody, So how about that because

481
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 2: he didn't just drunk driving got caught. He killed somebody

482
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 2: because he was drunk driving and it wasn't the first offense.

483
00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 2: It's not like he was out and made a bad

484
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,199
Speaker 2: call and this was a true, true accident and it

485
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 2: happened he had previous offenses, he shouldn't have been allowed

486
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 2: to drive this time, and he did, and now somebody

487
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 2: is dead.

488
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel like even the first time he

489
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Speaker 1: was caught, he had like empty beer bottles and whiskey bottles,

490
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 1: and it just seems like he, I mean, he definitely

491
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 1: seems like he's got some kind of a problem, because

492
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 1: that's not how.

493
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not talking like somebody was at the bar,

494
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 2: had four beers, made a bad judgment call and got

495
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 2: in the car. Like this guy is seriously an alcoholic.

496
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it is.

497
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,919
Speaker 1: It's just it's just really upsetting to hear this because

498
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 1: so like we've talked about this a million times, the

499
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 1: drunk driver doesn't ever seem to be the one that dies.

500
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 4: It's always an.

501
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 2: Innocent victim, exactly, all right. This woman is going viral

502
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,400
Speaker 2: on TikTok after posting videos of her trying new fruits

503
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 2: in which she claims is exposure therapy for her fruit phobia.

504
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,120
Speaker 2: This is like one of those cases where you're like, oh,

505
00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 2: learn something new every day. Never heard of this fruit

506
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 2: to phobia. It's called fruit to phobia fear of fruit.

507
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 2: And there's also like people could have a fear of

508
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 2: vegetables too, And I think from a psychological standpoint, it's

509
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 2: like it's kind of cool, actually, how you you could

510
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 2: somehow just fixate on the most random, benign object and

511
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 2: be scared to death of it. I'm like that with

512
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 2: ET for example, Like a lot of people like there's

513
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 2: something about it that scares the shit out of me.

514
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 2: Like I if I see like, like, thank god, we're

515
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 2: not in the eighties and there's not that many like

516
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,199
Speaker 2: toys or like t shirts with the thing on it,

517
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 2: but when I see it, it's like triggering to me,

518
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,239
Speaker 2: like it makes me have a gross feeling inside. Well,

519
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, you know, we've covered other stories

520
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,959
Speaker 2: where like these people are on TikTok and you know,

521
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 2: like this this sleepwalking thing right where like we're like, okay,

522
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 2: that could be real, or that girl could be faking it.

523
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 2: That girl that gags all the time could be real,

524
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 2: could be faking it. You could also call bullshit on

525
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 2: this girl too. But the way she explains the phobia

526
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 2: makes think it's real because you have your ET problem

527
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 2: and I have obviously a needlephobia. So coming from that

528
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 2: place when she said quote, it feels like I'm standing

529
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 2: on the edge of a cliff and someone's threatening to

530
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 2: push me off. I get sweaty, it gets super nervous

531
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 2: and anxious, and there's this feeling of disgust that just

532
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 2: completely grosses me out and makes me freak out. That

533
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 2: is exactly how I feel when I'm in the middle

534
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 2: of having a freak out over being exposed to a needle.

535
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 2: I'm sure you feel that way with et. Yours just

536
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 2: a little more weird. I don't know if there's a

537
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 2: term for yours, but I don't think this is.

538
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: I also don't think that mine is that extreme. Like

539
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,880
Speaker 1: I like, I feel like I mentally am strong enough

540
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,679
Speaker 1: to overcome anything like that, even though it makes me

541
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 1: feel uncomfortable. But I definitely like I look this up

542
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: and this is a thing. And one thing I hadn't

543
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: even considered was the reason is is that people are

544
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: like scared of ingesting insects by accident, or scared of

545
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: ingesting the seeds and the seeds like growing inside their

546
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 1: body and shit, just like outrage, just stuff that like

547
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: most people eating fruit and vegetables don't even think about.

548
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: And there was always a thing, remember, like if you

549
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 1: ate watermelons, and you swallowed the seeds of watermelon was

550
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: gonna grow in your belly. It was like a joke

551
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 1: when we were a kid. And You're like, no, people

552
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 1: actually think that that might happen.

553
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, And she said she's been like this her entire life.

554
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 2: It's not just something that suddenly sprung up when her

555
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 2: mom tried to change her from puraid foods a solid.

556
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,239
Speaker 2: She just always had an aversion to it and she

557
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 2: just could never do it. And now I guess she

558
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 2: wants to try to fix it because she's married and

559
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 2: she's thinking about becoming a mother, and she doesn't want

560
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 2: to have a panic attack every time she tries to

561
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 2: feed her kids like healthy foods.

562
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: It's kind of mislaughtered, so outrageous. No, it's cool, it's cool,

563
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: And she's surprised that it's getting such attention. She had

564
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: like twenty nine million views, and I'm like, no, dude,

565
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: like this is outrageous. I know this is your everyday life.

566
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 1: But like people are are like, what the hell this actually?

567
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: You know, like my strange addiction. There needs to be

568
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: a show that's like my phobia.

569
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 2: Yes, it is such a good show.

570
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: I know, because like this is so interesting and people

571
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: probably have like really weird shit, Like yeah, I mean

572
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: there's ones called like fructophobia because it's for people specific

573
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: for fruit.

574
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 4: But like what's the et on call?

575
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: Like what are all weird things that people have that

576
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: like they're just like, no, this is this is like

577
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 1: scary and it throws me over the edge.

578
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 3: I should cut this out so we could make all

579
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 3: the money off of this. You know, somebody else pitching it.

580
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 4: But we could be the host.

581
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 2: That's a perfect idea, Like I'd be interested in doing

582
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 2: something like that. She said she's most scared of an orange,

583
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 2: which I thought was an interesting thing. But the pineapple

584
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 2: video is funny because she's eating it and she looks

585
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 2: so scared to put in her mouth, and then once

586
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 2: she does, she admits to her husband that it tastes delicious,

587
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 2: but she doesn't like the texture.

588
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: Still, Yeah, it's so it's just so interesting. It's like

589
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: on the level of my strange addiction. I'm telling you, like,

590
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: people are gonna be like this is like you think

591
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: she's your age basically right, she's around your age and

592
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: she's married without kids yet, so she's like in the

593
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: same exact life situation as you and Ricky like just

594
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: imagine being with your husband at night and like having

595
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,199
Speaker 1: these conversations if he pulls out like a pineapple and

596
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: you're like crying in the corner, like it's just it's

597
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: it's great TV.

598
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it really is.

599
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 4: And like it's not to pitch this. I know we're

600
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 4: gonna need to pitch this seriously.

601
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 2: All right, let's move on to our last story. So,

602
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 2: this father of seven was at one of his son's

603
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 2: funerals a couple of weeks ago and in the middle

604
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 2: of it, had a massive heart attack and died. Yeah,

605
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 2: this is this is so the dad didn't have any

606
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 2: history of heart disease and he was sixty one. I

607
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 2: believe in the son was forty one. So I imagine

608
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 2: that losing a child is just like the most heartbreaking

609
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 2: thing a person can experience. And indeed, you can die

610
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: from a broken heart. Really like that's a medical thing

611
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 2: that could hack. So I guess the real tragedy behind

612
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: this story is that when the sun was found dead

613
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 2: in July, it was on the anniversary of when his

614
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 2: twins were stillborn. So it's three generations of death all

615
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 2: on the you know, anniversaries or during the grievance period.

616
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't know what happened there. I think

617
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: the sun had a history of drug and alcohol problems.

618
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: I guess the sister had thought that he had gotten sober,

619
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: but they didn't really specify what.

620
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 4: His cause of death was.

621
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: But at forty one years old, especially with that kind

622
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: of history, it's possibly has something to do with it.

623
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: So what happens with this broken heart disease? Or it's

624
00:29:55,240 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: called takasubo arteritis, that's the technical term of it. So well, normally,

625
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: when you have what you would consider to be a

626
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: heart attack, that's because of a schemic heart disease, or

627
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,479
Speaker 1: it means that there's some kind of a block of

628
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: oxygen getting to your heart muscle. But in this case,

629
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: and usually it's coronary artery disease, in this case, it

630
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: could happen when a person doesn't have coronary artery disease

631
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,719
Speaker 1: because of two different things. Number one, just hormones and

632
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: adrenaline could be too much release because of a high

633
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: stress event such as some a close family member, loved

634
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: one's death. It could also happen like if you get

635
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: scared to death kind of you've seen this could happen

636
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: to that there's this surge release of hormones that could

637
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: be toxic to the heart muscle, along with something causing

638
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: the coronary arteries to constrict, almost like not allowing blood

639
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: flow to get through. The combination of those two, they think, anyway,

640
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: is what causes this phenomenon to happen. But you hear

641
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: of it sometimes unfortunately, and so you really can die

642
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: of a broken heart, and that's likely what happened in

643
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: this case. It's just so sad to hear, especially for

644
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: the surviving sister.

645
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 4: God that is just so terrible. It really is.

646
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: All right, guys, Well, we have a couple events coming

647
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 2: up in October. On the third, we have the Wildlife

648
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 2: CSI at Lake Tobias Wildlife Park, and then on the twelfth,

649
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 2: we have the Keeping Hope, a Live annual golf Classic

650
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 2: where I'm gonna be volunteering and you have.

651
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 4: To check out the Mother Knows Death golf cart. That's

652
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 4: the uh.

653
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 2: You could drive around in a cute little golf cart.

654
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 2: I mean, the event's really awesome. It raises money for

655
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 2: couples dealing with IVF and it's a cool event because

656
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 2: you could either golf or you could go to this

657
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 2: dinner where there's a raffle with some fun baskets, so

658
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 2: always get a prize. I know our family loves a.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a good dinner too. That's local to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's going to be really fun too.

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Speaker 4: Awesome.

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Speaker 1: See you guys, thank you for listening to Mother Knows Death.

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Speaker 1: As a reminder, my training is as a pathologist's assistant.

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Speaker 1: I have a master's level education and specialize in anatomy

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Speaker 4: Thanks