WEBVTT - Tech News: Jony Ive and Apple Part Ways 0:00:04.400 --> 0:00:07.800 Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from I Heart Radio. 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:14.400 Be there and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host, 0:00:14.480 --> 0:00:17.280 Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with I Heart Radio. 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:19.720 And how the tech are Yet It's time for the 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:25.520 tech news for Thursday, July two thousand twenty two. Happy 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:30.200 Best Steal day, everybody. Let's get to the news. A 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:34.280 huge story this week, at least in my mind, is 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:38.600 that famous designer Johnny I've will no longer be designing 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:42.000 for Apple, all right, so let's give a quick rundown 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:45.239 for those who are unfamiliar with I've. He started at 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:48.120 Apple in the early nine nineties. This was an Apple 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:52.559 that lacked Steve Jobs because jobs have essentially been pushed 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:56.000 out of the company in and he would not come 0:00:56.040 --> 0:01:00.880 back until I've had studied design all his life. His 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:04.800 father was a silversmith and his grandfather was an engineer, 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:07.240 so it kind of ran in the family. And when 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:12.000 Steve Jobs returned to Apple in ven and subsequently was 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:15.319 put in charge of the company, he and I've formed 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:20.000 a type of partnership that would redefine Apple's look, and 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:22.600 it would bring the company from the verge of bankruptcy 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:26.920 into an unprecedented era of success. So I've worked on 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:32.560 tons of iconic Apple products, including the colorful iMac line. 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:35.600 You might not remember these. These were like the CRT 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:39.080 monitor Imax, so they look like old televisions, but they 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:43.479 had these very colorful shells on them, really vibrant ones, 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:47.400 and everyone just wanted one because they looked cool and friendly. 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:52.320 I've spent countless hours on design, looking at stuff like 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:56.400 individual materials and testing out those materials to make sure 0:01:56.440 --> 0:01:59.920 that they would hold what his design called for properly 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:02.960 and create the aesthetic he was going after. He would 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:07.600 obsess over the curve of an iPhone or the way 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:11.000 an Apple watch band would look on someone's wrist. It 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:13.920 is not an exaggeration to say that a lot of 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:18.840 Apple's appeal came out of Ive's work and input. Now, 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:22.280 I don't want to overstate things here either. Obviously, there 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:25.960 are a lot of other factors with Apple that are important, 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:29.680 and I've led an entire department of designers who all 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:32.680 contributed to the success of the company. It wasn't just 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:36.919 one guy, but during the first decade of the two 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:40.200 thousand's jobs and I've would be two of the most 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:45.000 prominent figures at Apple, things, however, would change after Jobs 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:48.440 passed away in two thousand eleven. Tim Cook, who was 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:53.040 Steve Job's successor as CEO, has a very different approach 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:57.640 to leadership than Jobs did. Cook is a financial genius, 0:02:57.639 --> 0:02:59.919 and he's well known for his ability to find new 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:04.760 ways to generate revenue while also limiting costs. But Cook 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:09.440 isn't really known for being innovative with products, nor is 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:12.480 he the salesman that Jobs was. That's just not who 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:16.000 Cook is. His strengths lie elsewhere, and while Cook would 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:20.800 lead Apple to unprecedented profits, the press and Apple fans 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:24.720 began to worry that Apple was kind of losing its mojo, 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:28.519 that it was falling behind in technical and design innovation. 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:32.840 I've gradually began to step back from his work. In 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:36.960 twenty nineteen, he actually left Apple and founded a design 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:40.600 company called Love From, along with a fellow former Apple 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:44.120 designer named Mark Newsson. But even then, Apple would be 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:48.440 Love From his chief client, and the two companies signed 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:51.320 a three year deal rumored to be valued at around 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:55.240 a hundred million dollars, where Love From would do a 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:58.800 lot of design work for Apple, in some cases exclusively 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:01.920 for Apple because the agreement meant that love From was 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:04.280 not supposed to work for any kind of company that 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:10.760 competed against Apple in certain categories. Now, reportedly, Apple and 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:15.120 love From have decided not to extend that three year contract. 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:18.600 The contract terms her up and they appear to have said, 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:21.000 you know what, We're gonna walk away. That means that 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:23.440 for the first time in thirty years, Apple will really 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:27.000 be moving forward without any of ives involvement in the 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:30.800 design of its products. So does this mean that Apple's 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:34.000 aesthetic is going to hold steady or are we actually 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:37.479 going to see a shift. Will some other genius step 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:41.960 forward and guide Apple's design in a new direction, or 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:44.000 will the team with an Apple do its best to 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:48.400 kind of eight ives preferences. For some folks, the severing 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:51.520 of this relationship is kind of a warning flag that 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:54.200 Apple is going to gradually lose its appeal as a 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:59.159 company that designs sexy and appealing technology that you just 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:01.560 immediately want to pay cup in your own hands when 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:03.240 you see it. That's how I think of a lot 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:06.480 of Apple's products, even though I don't own many of them. 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:10.840 When I see those presentations, invariably I'm like, man, I 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:12.840 want to get my hands on that and see what 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:15.680 it feels like. I think I will have to do 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:19.240 a full profile episode about Johnny. I've before too long, 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:21.960 so I'm not gonna go into any further detail here, 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:26.200 but i will say it is a pretty remarkable end 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:31.560 of an era. Now let's move on to Twitter. The 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:35.360 company officially sued Elon Musk in a Delaware court over 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:37.680 the issue of Musk trying to back out of his 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:41.840 deal to acquire Twitter. The filing is reportedly sixty two 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:45.240 pages long, and The Atlantic has a great rundown about 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:49.880 the lawsuit, including opinions on why Musk's arguments are aren't 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:53.240 likely to hold up in court. Uh namely that Musk 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:56.280 is arguing that a flood of bots on Twitter means 0:05:56.320 --> 0:06:00.120 the platform is significantly overvalued, which Musk's team argue is 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:02.760 enough to allow Musk to back out of the deal. 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:07.680 The article has the title Elon Musk is a Nightmare client. 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:11.680 The piece also points out some ironic features in the lawsuit, 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:16.080 namely that the filing portrays Musk as a capricious and 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:20.000 petty person and someone that you probably wouldn't want to 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:23.640 be in charge of your company. But the whole purpose 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:26.599 of the lawsuit is to force Musk to go through 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:30.400 with this acquisition deal and to purchase Twitter. So it's 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:33.480 kind of like saying, this guy's a joke. He should 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:35.960 not be running a company, and that's why you can't 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:39.520 take his excuses for why he can't run our company seriously, 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:43.159 So make him run our company. It's a mad, mad, 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:46.000 mad mad mad world, y'all. And of course it gets 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:48.920 better and the filing, Twitter revealed that part of the 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:52.479 deal it made with Musk was that the company would 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:55.360 not impede Musk's ability to tweet. He could tweet all 0:06:55.400 --> 0:07:00.000 he liked. However, he was not to disparage Twitter or 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:03.360 its representatives because that would be in violation of the agreement. 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:09.160 So it is possible that when Musk tweeted a poop 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:12.840 emoji at Twitter, that that would eventually come back and 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:15.480 haunt him and be used against him in a court 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:18.680 of law. This is the world we live in now, 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:23.560 where a poop emoji becomes evidence. This is where we 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:26.960 are at as a society. None of the science fiction 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:30.760 authors predicted this, So Musk tweeting out negative things about 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:34.200 Twitter and its representatives violates this agreement, which Twitter then 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:37.680 argues means that Musk has forfeited his right to terminate 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:40.920 the agreement, and it gets juicier from there, And at 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:44.640 least from an outsider's perspective, I would say that it 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:47.760 looks like Twitter has the upper hand going into this litigation. 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:51.119 But I am no expert, and Elon Musk has proven 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:54.040 to be a slippery character on numerous occasions, so I'm 0:07:54.120 --> 0:08:00.240 not confident that he's out of serious trouble or as 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:02.640 in serious trouble. I honestly can't tell one way or 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:05.200 the other it is. It's a mystery to me, but 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:08.240 it's an entertaining one. Now, let's stay Muskie for a 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:11.120 couple of stories and talk about the SpaceX Rocket booster 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:14.280 mishap earlier this week. Actually meant to cover this on 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:18.160 Tuesday's episode because it happened on Monday. Then. It was 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:22.200 in Texas where a SpaceX Starship Booster rocket burst into 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:26.040 flames during a ground test firing. Now, this was part 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:29.400 of a regimen of fire tests with this booster, and 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:32.960 it's safe to say this particular test was a failure. 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:36.280 Musk himself acknowledged that the outcome was quote unquote not 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:39.960 good on Twitter, and must later said it appeared that 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:44.040 some unburned propellant from the raptor two engines of the Starship. 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:47.240 The starship has thirty three of these kinds of engines, 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:50.040 that that was the cause of the fire. As of 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:52.840 this recording, the teams are still assessing the causes and 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:56.120 the damage. The exterior structure of the booster appears to 0:08:56.120 --> 0:08:57.920 be in pretty good shape, but I've yet to see 0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:01.760 official word about the condition of the engines themselves now. 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:05.640 Originally SpaceX hoped to have a test orbital flight of 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:08.560 the Starship by the end of this month. That seems 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:11.559 unlikely now, but again, there's been no official word as 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:14.240 of this recording about when the company expects to conduct 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:17.720 the test. I think the takeaway here is that rocket 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:22.400 science is hard. I mean, it's not brain surgery. And 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:25.400 over at Tesla, the company is saying goodbye to its 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:29.679 top executive in its AI department, Andre Caparthi, who has 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:33.600 served as director for Tesla's autopilot vision team, has announced 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:36.560 he is leaving Tesla. He has been part of the 0:09:36.559 --> 0:09:39.600 company for five years, and this comes as Tesla faces 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:42.679 scrutiny from the US government regarding the safety of the 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:46.280 autopilot feature in general, which has been cited as a 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:50.280 factor in some notable accidents, including some traffic accidents that 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:55.120 resulted in fatalities. It's also a time when Tesla as 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:58.520 a whole has been laying off workers. The company recently 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:02.000 closed at San Mateo office after laying off most of 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:06.679 the workforce there and transferring the remaining staff to other offices. 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:09.800 So is this a further indication that Tesla might be 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:12.600 in a bit of a sticky situation. I just don't know. 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:15.400 I mean, I'm not sure what Caparthi's motivations were for 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:17.480 leaving the company. It could just be that he wants 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:20.880 a break, or maybe he wants a new challenge in 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:23.480 his career. I don't want to read too much into it, 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:26.080 is what I'm saying. All Right, We've got more news 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:28.079 stories to cover today, but before we get to that, 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:39.800 let's take a quick break. We're back Earlier this week, 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:42.840 I talked about how a whistle blower leaked more than 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:46.560 a hundred twenty thousand internal documents from Uber to the press. 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:50.720 Those documents covered Uber activities between two thousand thirteen and 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:55.520 two thousand seventeen, and mostly documented stuff that we already knew, 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:58.840 just in much greater detail than we were aware of, 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:03.560 namely that Uber took to some pretty aggressive tactics in 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:07.319 order to expand into various markets, including but not limited 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:12.800 to being pretty loosey goosey with local laws in an 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:16.440 effort to one established business and to then change the 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:19.959 laws in Uber's favor. Now I have more news about Uber, 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:24.040 and it's grim. A group of more than five women 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:27.320 have brought a lawsuit against Uber, alleging that they had 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:32.040 been victims of violence from Uber drivers, ranging from sexual 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:37.600 harassment to kidnapping to rape. The list of accusations is 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:41.480 absolutely horrifying, and the women claimed that Uber did too 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:44.680 little to prevent sexual predators from working as drivers for 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:49.600 the company despite being aware of the issue. That's about 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:51.680 where we are right now. I'm sure we'll hear a 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:55.240 lot more about this as the case moves on. But yeah, 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:59.560 that is a terrible, terrible story, and I'll keep an 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:03.200 eye on and how it develops. Ring, the smart doorbell 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:07.319 and security camera company that's owned by Amazon, recently released 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:10.480 a transparency report in which the company revealed that in 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:15.240 one it had received three thousand, one hundred forty seven 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:20.120 legal demands from various law enforcement agencies to hand over 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:23.840 surveillance footage that had been gathered from the smart doorbell 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:30.880 cameras and security cameras, so essentially turning customer cameras into 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:35.680 law enforcements surveillance cameras. Now that number of requests is 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:40.720 up from around nineteen hundred demands back in, or an 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:45.160 increase of around sixty and out of those three thousand 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:47.760 seven demands, more than eighty five percent of them were 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:53.600 accompanied by a court issued order such as a search warrant. However, 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:57.600 Ring said that it turned over data as in footage, 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:00.920 and only around four out of every ten demands when 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:05.600 you average it all out. So while of these demands 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:10.079 had a court order attached to them, were the ones 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:13.960 that Ring actually handed information over. I'm not really sure 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:17.840 how this all shook out properly, but in addition to that, 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:22.600 Ring also received two thousand, seven seventy four preservation orders. 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:27.800 Now that's when a law enforcement agency asks Amazon to 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:31.160 hold onto data for up to six months while that 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:34.600 agency attempts to secure a warrant or other court order 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:37.880 that would be necessary to demand access to the footage. So, 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:41.760 in other words, this is an agency saying, hey, don't 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:45.360 delete this customer's data anytime soon, we might need access 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:48.559 to it. On top of that, Amazon shared footage with 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:53.280 police at least eleven times without any kind of warrant 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:56.400 or court order at all, something that the company had 0:13:56.440 --> 0:14:01.920 previously indicated to customers wouldn't happen. The message to consumers 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:04.360 is that Amazon is not going to hand over footage 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:07.079 to police unless they have a court order to do so. 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:12.080 But it turns out that in cases of emergency, essentially 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:17.720 when someone somewhere determines that there's imminent danger, Amazon can 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:22.600 share information to police, and that has led some critics 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:25.680 to protest the practice. They say it sets a precedent 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:29.640 and it could allow for future mission creep, meaning once 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:33.200 you establish that there is an exception to the rules, 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:37.720 it can be easy to have that exception expand over time. 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:41.440 And since this is a massive invasion of privacy and 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:45.479 potentially a violation of the Fourth Amendment to the US Constitution, 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:49.120 which protects against unreasonable search and seizure, that is a 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:55.600 significant problem. Yesterday, U S courts convicted former CIA employee 0:14:55.680 --> 0:15:00.800 Joshua Schultz on nine charges relating to leaking classified information. 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:04.680 Who boy, this story is filled with a whole bunch 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:08.360 of awful stuff. So first, Schult used to work at 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:12.720 the CIA as a software engineer. In twenty fifteen, Schulton 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:16.280 filed a restraining order against one of his co workers 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:19.800 in the CIA. Filed this restraining order in state court. 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:23.800 The two people, Schulton this co worker had been in 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:27.760 what CNN would describe as a feud. They got sent 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:31.360 to different offices as a result. And then, according to 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:35.400 prosecutors in this case, Schultz got angry at his employer, 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:39.160 the CIA, when the agency started looking into bringing in 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:42.200 a contractor to design a tool that was similar to 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:45.440 one that Schultz himself was already working on, and that 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:50.480 this sent Schultz on a vindictive path. So, according to prosecutors, 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:54.080 Schult then stole several cyber tools belonging to the CIA 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:58.000 and then sent those tools to Wiki Leaks, the nonprofit 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:00.440 organization meant to serve as sort of a clearing house 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:05.000 for whistleblowers. Schult left the CIA in t sixteen. He 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:10.280 got arrested in t seventeen on charges of possessing child pornography. 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:13.560 Around that same time, Wiki Leaks began to publish what 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:17.760 would become known as the Vault seven leaks, the largest 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:22.480 leak of data in CIA's history. Prosecutors said that those 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:26.920 leaks originated from two programs that Schult was able to access, 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:30.560 which implies that the tools Shult handed over to Wiki 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:34.640 Leaks made the Vault seven leaks possible. While Schultz was 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:39.080 being investigated and prosecuted for the child pornography charges, he 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:43.200 then also was charged with leaking this classified information. He 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:46.520 had an initial trial that ended back in twenty but 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:50.120 it ended with a mistrial. The government chose to retry 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:55.480 the case, and that concluded yesterday on July two. That 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:58.880 one ended with Schult being convicted on those counts of 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:02.840 leaking classified information. He has yet to be sentenced, but 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:06.120 this incident has become known, as I said, as the 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:10.200 largest leak of CIA information in history. All right, let's 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:14.119 move on to something less grim, at least for anyone 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:18.200 who doesn't happen to be Google or YouTube. Tech Crunch 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:21.920 reports that the utes today are spending way more time 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:25.280 on TikTok than they are on YouTube, and I think 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:29.960 that comes as a surprise to nobody. VidCon, for example, 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:34.679 Vidcan is a big conference that focuses on online video 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:39.919 and traditionally, UH the big attraction of vidcan was the 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:45.119 attendance of YouTube content creators. Well, this past VidCon it 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:49.000 was very clear that the focus had switched from YouTube 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:52.440 to TikTok. Not that there weren't still YouTube creators there 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:59.040 there were, but that TikTok was largely the main attraction 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:02.840 at VIDCA this year. So that's a pretty strong example 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:05.720 of where the trend is going. I'll tech Crunch employeed 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:09.520 a research team from Q Studio. That's qu s t 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:12.520 u d i oh. That's a company that makes parental 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:16.959 control software. And according to Q studios data, gen Z 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:22.080 and jen Alpha users typically spend somewhere around nine minutes 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:26.159 on average per day watching content on TikTok and fifty 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:29.800 six minutes per on average per day watching content on YouTube. 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:32.080 So there would be about two and a half hours 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:35.119 of watching stuff online from just those two sources. But 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:37.560 considering how much television I soaked up when I was 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:40.880 a kid, I can't get judge about any of this anyway. 0:18:41.040 --> 0:18:43.320 The data shows what I think a lot of folks 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:47.639 already knew at younger generations are gravitating more towards the 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:52.320 short form content of TikTok than moving on to what 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:55.120 you would find on YouTube and It's why a lot 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:59.240 of platforms, including YouTube itself, have promoted features that present 0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:03.840 content in shorter formats, essentially trying to mimic what TikTok 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:08.920 is doing on YouTube. It's literally called YouTube shorts, and 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:11.199 the goal there is to serve as kind of a 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:14.119 means of discovery so that users will see shorts that 0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:17.000 attract them. They watch the short and then they'll say, 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:19.959 you know what, I'm gonna go and find the video 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:23.200 that this came from, the longer form video and watch 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:27.880 that too. Meanwhile, according to Business Insider, Google's s VP 0:19:28.320 --> 0:19:32.679 prob Hoker rock Hoven said at a conference, the younger 0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:36.639 audiences are turning to TikTok and Instagram to perform searches 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:40.480 rather than using Google to do though now that doesn't 0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:43.119 necessarily mean that kids are using TikTok to do research 0:19:43.200 --> 0:19:47.880 for homework or anything like that, though maybe that's the case. Instead, 0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:52.120 the example given was more like you're trying to figure 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:54.280 out where you want to go to grab lunch, and 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:57.960 that kids these days will look to TikTok and Instagram 0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:01.040 to find out, you know, goods aggestions as opposed to 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:04.879 using Google Search. So anyway, that's something Google wants to 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:07.760 address it, wants to develop new tools that will appeal 0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:11.760 to younger users so that they'll use Google for search. Meanwhile, 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:13.760 I'm sitting over here thinking I need to start a 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:16.840 TikTok account where I dress up in various quasi historical 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:21.000 outfits and do quick lessons on stuff like American history 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:24.000 and Shakespeare or whatever. I could be the cliffs Notes 0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:27.920 of TikTok, except I'm sure that already exists, probably in 0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:30.960 multiple channels, but maybe I should do it. Anyway, while 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:33.080 I think about that, let's take another quick break and 0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:43.119 we'll be back with a couple more stories. Okay, we 0:20:43.200 --> 0:20:45.520 got a couple of stories to close out this episode. 0:20:45.640 --> 0:20:49.320 First up, The Register reports that a letter signed by 0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:52.479 executives at some of the biggest tech companies in the world, 0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:58.520 which include Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, Google, and Meta, among others, 0:20:59.200 --> 0:21:03.720 encourages state leaders to introduce computer science lessons for students 0:21:03.920 --> 0:21:07.920 in elementary, middle and high school here in the United States. 0:21:07.960 --> 0:21:10.159 So the letter calls for kids to be given the 0:21:10.200 --> 0:21:13.360 opportunity to learn the basics of computer science early on, 0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:18.439 including eventually how to code, with classes becoming more complex 0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:21.720 and in depth at higher grade levels. I think This 0:21:21.800 --> 0:21:24.920 is a great idea. Getting a grounding and computer science 0:21:25.119 --> 0:21:28.080 is practical, and it also means that students will learn 0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:31.040 to put other skills to use. Plus, it will mean 0:21:31.040 --> 0:21:33.720 that students who move on to colleges and universities will 0:21:33.760 --> 0:21:37.720 already have a fundamental understanding before they jump into computer 0:21:37.760 --> 0:21:42.320 science classes. That is critical. Computer science has advanced so 0:21:42.400 --> 0:21:45.800 much in such a relatively short time that it can 0:21:45.840 --> 0:21:48.119 be pretty challenging for students who have little to no 0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:53.080 background in the subject to make progress at the university level. Plus, 0:21:53.200 --> 0:21:57.320 computer science encourages students to learn problem solving skills like 0:21:57.400 --> 0:22:01.240 critical thinking skills, breaking problems down own in a way 0:22:01.240 --> 0:22:04.560 where you can approach a solution that can be applied 0:22:04.760 --> 0:22:08.520 outside the discipline of computer science. It's a really powerful 0:22:08.600 --> 0:22:11.320 tool to have in your arsenal and it's something that 0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:13.960 I wish I had had access to back when I 0:22:14.000 --> 0:22:15.960 was a kid. You know, when I was going to 0:22:16.600 --> 0:22:19.560 high school, the most advanced class we had in our 0:22:19.600 --> 0:22:23.399 computer lab was data entry, right, that was that was 0:22:23.480 --> 0:22:25.480 the peak. That's as far as you could go. I 0:22:25.520 --> 0:22:30.360 actually ended up taking an additional course in the computer 0:22:30.520 --> 0:22:33.640 lab that wasn't even offered officially. I had to get 0:22:33.840 --> 0:22:38.600 special permission to do it rather than take some other elective. 0:22:38.880 --> 0:22:41.919 And it turned out that I end up teaching the 0:22:41.960 --> 0:22:44.160 class at least a portion of the class that were 0:22:44.160 --> 0:22:48.040 on the IBM computers because the teacher of my computer 0:22:48.160 --> 0:22:51.359 lab was more familiar with Apple computers, so that's what 0:22:51.440 --> 0:22:54.199 she focused on. Uh. Turns out I didn't do a 0:22:54.200 --> 0:22:57.719 whole lot other than like again, data entry and word processing. 0:22:57.840 --> 0:23:00.959 So even though I was put in charge, I didn't 0:23:01.280 --> 0:23:04.399 get to really advance my knowledge that much. And I 0:23:04.480 --> 0:23:08.840 consider that real, you know, a real failure of the 0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:11.840 school system, if I'm being honest, because it would have 0:23:11.880 --> 0:23:15.720 been great to have had access to better educational tools 0:23:16.200 --> 0:23:19.840 to get into computer science, even just a little bit, 0:23:19.840 --> 0:23:24.120 because again in my case, it didn't happen at all. 0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:29.600 Who is literally superficial applications of computers, nothing important about 0:23:29.600 --> 0:23:34.600 the computers themselves. So the letter also stresses the importance 0:23:34.640 --> 0:23:37.960 of fostering new generations of computer scientists because it will 0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:41.320 be a critical component for the workplace in general. That's 0:23:41.320 --> 0:23:44.840 clearly been the case for a while. It's also critical 0:23:44.880 --> 0:23:47.960 for U S strategy to have experts and computer science. 0:23:48.160 --> 0:23:50.720 You do not want the country to fall behind in 0:23:50.800 --> 0:23:53.520 that regard. In fact, a lot of people have argued 0:23:53.560 --> 0:23:56.320 that China is already well ahead of the United States 0:23:56.320 --> 0:23:59.679 at this point, and that if we don't start addressing 0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:04.240 this issue, then we will be hopelessly left behind. The 0:24:04.320 --> 0:24:06.960 letter also calls leaders to make certain that such classes 0:24:06.960 --> 0:24:10.280 are available to all students everywhere, including those belonging to 0:24:10.320 --> 0:24:14.639 classically underserved communities. And I really hope that the letter 0:24:14.680 --> 0:24:17.720 helps spur some action across the States. I think it 0:24:17.760 --> 0:24:22.320 would be incredibly helpful if that did happen. Finally, Nintendo 0:24:22.440 --> 0:24:26.080 has a new acquisition. The company has purchased a CG 0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:31.240 production company called Dynamo Pictures, which Nintendo plans to rebrand 0:24:31.480 --> 0:24:35.800 as Nintendo Pictures. The subsidiary will be tasked with creating 0:24:35.880 --> 0:24:40.280 quote visual content utilizing Nintendo I p end quote. According 0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:43.920 to a Nintendo press release, that visual content is likely 0:24:43.960 --> 0:24:46.760 going to include work that will actually appear in video 0:24:46.760 --> 0:24:51.080 games themselves. Dynamo Pictures has previously done motion capture work 0:24:51.320 --> 0:24:55.240 on several large computer game and and video game titles 0:24:55.240 --> 0:24:58.320 like Death Stranding is one of them, so a lot 0:24:58.320 --> 0:25:01.720 of that work may be to reduced content that's actually 0:25:01.720 --> 0:25:04.760 going to go into video games. However, I expect we'll 0:25:04.800 --> 0:25:09.440 also see Nintendo Pictures work on stuff that's meant to 0:25:09.480 --> 0:25:14.639 be on television or streaming or film. The acquisition is 0:25:14.680 --> 0:25:19.080