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Speaker 1: Your two and welcome to another edition of Big Blue

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Speaker 1: Kickoff live here on Giants dot com. I'm Paul the Tino.

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Speaker 1: He is Jeff Feagles at Giants w f A n

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Speaker 1: at Jay Fiegeles Hello, Jeff. Three of Giants Minicamp tory.

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Speaker 1: It's in the books. Giants had a shortened practice today

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Speaker 1: as peg Scharmer was able to get these guys out

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Speaker 1: of here for the next five or six weeks. They

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Speaker 1: were running in the park. They were gorgeous. Stay by

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Speaker 1: the way in North Jersey for another outside practice. Uh, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: why don't I just start today's program? And by the way,

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Speaker 1: of course, you can hit us up on Twitter at

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Speaker 1: Giant hashtag Giants Chat or two one four five one

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Speaker 1: three by as sking you from a player's perspective, what

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Speaker 1: is the thing that you are most concentrated on as

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Speaker 1: you go into the summer knowing that you have this

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Speaker 1: short vacation before training camp begins. Well, I think first

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Speaker 1: and foremost, you know, this is an exciting time for

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Speaker 1: the players because they put in all the work in

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Speaker 1: the off season. They did the training portion of it,

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Speaker 1: phases they go through the o t A s the

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Speaker 1: mandatory mini camp, and now is a time to enjoy

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Speaker 1: the summer, enjoy your family, enjoy some vacations. Those are

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Speaker 1: the things you look forward to with you have to

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Speaker 1: keep in mind that there's still some work to be

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Speaker 1: done as far as staying in shape and running and

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Speaker 1: doing the things that you need to do. The strength

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Speaker 1: to do UM and phases going from this week until

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Speaker 1: we're leading up to training camp. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: the giants do anymore if they have a conditioning test

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Speaker 1: when they get here. Most teams do, some some of

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Speaker 1: them gone away from it. But the fact is they

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Speaker 1: expect you to come back in shape. They expect you

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Speaker 1: to do things the right way, and they expect you

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Speaker 1: that and make sure you do it well. There will

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Speaker 1: be rookies, quarterbacks and selected veterans coming back on July.

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Speaker 1: There will be a session with those guys on thee

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Speaker 1: on the twenty six July there will be the first

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Speaker 1: full team practice. Just so you guys have that schedule

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Speaker 1: squared away, we do know for sure that the second

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Speaker 1: week of the preseason, the Giants will be in Detroit

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Speaker 1: to play the Lions on the seventeenth of August. Uh

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Speaker 1: that means on the four fifteenth and sixteen, the Giants

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Speaker 1: you details as to whether or not those are open

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Speaker 1: that because it's a Lion home to event, But for

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Speaker 1: to you when it does become available. Your thought it's

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Speaker 1: on having the dual team provins. Giants did that. I

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Speaker 1: I talked a little bit about it yesterday with Lands.

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Speaker 1: gonna defer to you. I'm gonna give you a statement here,

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Speaker 1: The toughest thing for a player to do. He can

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Speaker 1: The muscle memory of how to use your body during

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Speaker 1: in just a moment. Special edition here as we wrap

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Speaker 1: up Giants Minicamp Day three is in the books of course.

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Speaker 1: Twitter hashtag Giants Chat. Final thoughts on just wrapping up

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Speaker 1: I want to know because time it's good, sometimes it's

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Speaker 1: not so good. And you guys think, honestly, does this

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Speaker 1: seem still lack? That is dangerous that they did they?

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry that they What is it? He wants to

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Speaker 1: know what the team still lacks? I mean, I still

433
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Speaker 1: think there are certainly some thin spots and some question marks,

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Speaker 1: but I think I think the best way to answer

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Speaker 1: your question is this, I think the Giants have potential

436
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Speaker 1: answers at each one of their thin spots, potential answers.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean they'll all come through. We don't know

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Speaker 1: that Eric Flowers will work out at right Tack. We

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Speaker 1: don't know for sure that Will Hernandez is gonna work out.

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Speaker 1: I think you will, but I don't know that. We

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Speaker 1: don't know what the free shafety spot is gonna be

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Speaker 1: I mean, we'd like to believe that Thompson has a

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Speaker 1: bounce back season from what we thought we saw as

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Speaker 1: a rookie. So there are questions, but I think there

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Speaker 1: are at least guys who may have the correct answers.

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Speaker 1: I think I think what this team lacks, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: is experience. I think that there's you know, you've got

448
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Speaker 1: a new offensive coordinator, you have a new defensive coordinator,

449
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Speaker 1: you're running a new three four defense. Um, you kind

450
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Speaker 1: of have a whole new offense. So you know, this

451
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Speaker 1: team is not it's nothing. It's all new to them.

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Speaker 1: So the experience factor, I don't mean like they lack

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Speaker 1: experience and the fact that there's not enough veteran players.

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Speaker 1: It's just that this team has not played together from

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Speaker 1: a standpoint on offensive, defensively. So that's what preseason is

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Speaker 1: in for. Unfortunately, you know, you don't get to practice

457
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Speaker 1: a lot of your playbook in preseason. It's just mundane,

458
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Speaker 1: stupid stuff that you run, um and you know, but

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Speaker 1: that's what's that's what's so important about these O. T

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Speaker 1: A s and the things that they're doing now in

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Speaker 1: many camps. Good uestion, though, Jeff, I think that give

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Speaker 1: me a second, I watch you to chime in again.

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Speaker 1: But I want to follow up on Jeff's point. Do

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Speaker 1: you think that, unlike coach McAdoo, who did not believe

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Speaker 1: you should be working on a bunch of your regular

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Speaker 1: season plays during the preseason, do you think that coach

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Speaker 1: Shermer will want to use a lot of those plays

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Speaker 1: to give these guys a chance to mesh Well, I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't think he'll do it in the games.

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Speaker 1: I really don't. I just think that that's just the

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Speaker 1: way it works. But I do know this, if if

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Speaker 1: you have noticed that, you know, the screen game is

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Speaker 1: very They've been working on the screen game because you

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Speaker 1: have to The screen game in football is not something

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Speaker 1: you just plug and play. It takes a lot of

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Speaker 1: timing and a lot of work, and they've been working

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Speaker 1: on that to this day to try to get it

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Speaker 1: ready for the regular season. I think you'll see a

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Speaker 1: little bit of it in the training training camp and

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Speaker 1: you know, but you know during training camp to those

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Speaker 1: closed practices, that's when these teams are running stuff that

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Speaker 1: they're trying to work on so nobody can see him

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Speaker 1: so secretively. You know, that's so serious, which is kind

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Speaker 1: of funny because you know, when the season starts. This

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Speaker 1: is the correct me a firm all. When the season starts,

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Speaker 1: each team usually it's four it's a four game clip.

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Speaker 1: They'll go back and watch four games, right, So after

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Speaker 1: that fourth week you pretty much have everything on tape anyway,

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Speaker 1: So what is so secretively about the first week? The

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Speaker 1: second week? You know what I'm saying, it's all they

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Speaker 1: think you either I'm I've come from the mind of this.

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Speaker 1: It's you against me, and if I can win against you,

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Speaker 1: then I'm going to win the game. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: put it out there now. The problem is that these

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Speaker 1: defensive coaches are so smart that they'll try to trick

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Speaker 1: and they try to play and you know what happens.

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Speaker 1: They out coached themselves. That's what happens in the league.

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Speaker 1: These these coaches think they're so brilliant than they are,

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Speaker 1: but they all coached themselves. And then the coach of

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Speaker 1: the players are in the in the medium going oh

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Speaker 1: my god, what are we doing this week? And they're

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Speaker 1: scratching their head and it's just just unbelievable. Okay, back,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, you have another point, sorry, Matt. And the

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Speaker 1: things that I'm reading keeps burning with that conversion from

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Speaker 1: the four three to three fe keeps burning our dds

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Speaker 1: and guys that are trying to transition on the linebacker

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Speaker 1: is one? Do you think that? I mean, Span is incredible,

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Speaker 1: so him burning people doesn't seem unusual, But is our

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Speaker 1: odds to the line doctors conversion? Is that going to

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Speaker 1: happen so easily? And do you think Ogletree can make

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Speaker 1: up for that? If Vernon and uh Goodson are struggling

512
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Speaker 1: a lot? And then who's our nickel corner and Stiegels?

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Speaker 1: What do you think about the battle between what Kern

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Speaker 1: and Rosas? Who do you think is going to be alright?

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Speaker 1: Three things? Okay? The kick, Thank you Matt. The kickers,

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Speaker 1: I think this is I think this will be a

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Speaker 1: really good um competition between these two young guys. Um.

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Speaker 1: The kicker that's here Kern, I think is his name,

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Speaker 1: Um con Cone? Um. You know he's uh, he's not

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Speaker 1: a rookie. He's been he has not been on a

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Speaker 1: regular season game, but he's been you know, he's been

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Speaker 1: in some camps last year. Um. But I think that

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Speaker 1: ultimately those will be the guys. I don't think that

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Speaker 1: they'll bring another veteran guy in there. Even one of

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Speaker 1: these doesn't win the job, and you can always go

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Speaker 1: out and get a veteran. Um. The other thing, what

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Speaker 1: was the other one? He want to know about the linebackers,

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Speaker 1: I think, but he keep covering him. Which listen, I

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Speaker 1: think if our linebackers come out of practice and they're

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Speaker 1: in the in the coaches, man, you guys did well today,

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Speaker 1: that's great, that's good, But that's not gonna be very often.

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Speaker 1: I think that one thing about the linebacking position in

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Speaker 1: a new scheme and getting to kind of to mesh together. Um,

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Speaker 1: we'll take some time, and I think collectively through the NFL,

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Speaker 1: you see, the defense isn't that good at the beginning

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Speaker 1: of the season. It's usually sometimes, you know, the the

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Speaker 1: offense wins, I think, and then all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: the defense catches up a little bit in my opinion. Um,

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Speaker 1: but because the tackling, you know, there's no tackling and

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Speaker 1: training camp. So that's when I mean, how the defense loses.

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Speaker 1: They don't. They have to get used to tackling for

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Speaker 1: the first two or three weeks, and then the defense

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Speaker 1: plays better. Um. But I think the linebackers are improved

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Speaker 1: Ogo Tree. Um, you look at some of the guys.

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Speaker 1: B J. Goodson is health coming back from injury. I

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Speaker 1: hope that he can stay healthy. Um. And then you

547
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: got your you know, the rest of the crew that

548
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Speaker 1: can get out there and place in football. All Right,

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00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: we'll go to Twitter for a few comments. We'll get

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00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 1: back to your phone calls in just a minute. Mark

551
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Speaker 1: in Chicago says the Giants did the fifteen preseason with

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Speaker 1: the Bengals, we talked about that, said they got their

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Speaker 1: butts kicked in both practices and in the game. Well,

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Speaker 1: it was not a good week for the Giants. I

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Speaker 1: think we would agree with that. He says that was

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Speaker 1: a sign of what was to become culinating in that season.

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Speaker 1: And let's see what happens in Detroit. So interesting thought.

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Speaker 1: And I know a lot of people are gonna have

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Speaker 1: their eyes wide open on the Giants lines practices for sure. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think the Lions are a good football team. Okay,

561
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: certainly their playoff team right yes, year, and I think

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Speaker 1: that you know that's gonna be good hunt for a

563
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: wild card. Yeah. Bick Welsh says, how many linebackers does

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Speaker 1: a three four typically keep on the roster? Who do

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Speaker 1: we have at that position outside of Ogletree and good

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Speaker 1: Sin does Hersli risk being roster cut this year? Always

567
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Speaker 1: loved him well, hers been in the league for six years,

568
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: been a real good special teams player. And as far

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Speaker 1: as the Giants linebackers, remember they're outside backers are pseudo

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Speaker 1: defensive ends. It's a very fluid spot. They they're kind

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Speaker 1: of renaming that the edge position as opposed to outside linebacker.

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Speaker 1: How many inside linebackers will they keep? Jeff, you gotta

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Speaker 1: keep at least three? How a gonna have each position?

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Speaker 1: I suspect, and again correct me if I'm wrong. I

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Speaker 1: suspect based on what he did in college, if they

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Speaker 1: needed to, Lorenzo Carter could probably move inside. He did

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Speaker 1: that at Georgia. I don't. I don't like it, but

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Speaker 1: if you had to, which is why I think they

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Speaker 1: may only keep one backup inside backer and then use

580
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Speaker 1: his versatility as the potential fourth string. How many seven? Well,

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Speaker 1: again I don't I think. I think what you're doing

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Speaker 1: is you're keeping three inside backers and then edge rushers

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Speaker 1: are the defensive ends, and the outside backers. I think

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Speaker 1: you lumped them to the edge rusher pot I don't

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Speaker 1: think you count them as linebackers. Okay, either or I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you take away that if they're either going to

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Speaker 1: be linebackers or they're going to be defensive lineman. So

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Speaker 1: you're going into the and going into the question, I

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Speaker 1: would say, do not count Karee Martin as a line backer.

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Speaker 1: Count him as a defensive lineman. He's an edge rusher,

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Speaker 1: so he you know what I'm saying that do you

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Speaker 1: want to count him as a linement or do you

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Speaker 1: want to count him as a linebacker? Well? I in

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Speaker 1: my book now, because of the way they've redefined the

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Speaker 1: positions or should I say undefined the positions, there's three

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Speaker 1: then I think I think there are defensive tackles, there

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Speaker 1: are edge edge players, and then there were inside linebackers.

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Speaker 1: That's how I would redefine them, to be honest with you.

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Speaker 1: The way better plays his scheme. Well, yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: that's the way that that's the way you have to

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Speaker 1: you have to kind of coalate them. But his question

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Speaker 1: is how many linebackers are you gonna keep? So I

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Speaker 1: think you're keeping three quote inside linebackers, you're keeping four

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Speaker 1: defensive tackles, okay, and then what are you keeping a

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Speaker 1: total of seven edge guys or you gotta have you

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Speaker 1: gotta have remember your edge guys are your are two

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Speaker 1: or your four linebackers? You know in the sense? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you keep you keeping maybe eight? Yeah, I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I have to put it, but I haven't I have,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I haven't put it down yet because

611
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Speaker 1: we're not close enough to training camp for me to

612
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Speaker 1: start cutting guys like figuring out numbers. But I think

613
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Speaker 1: we have to identify the numbers and how we're going

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Speaker 1: to categorize them. Maybe we do it in threes. Do

615
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Speaker 1: you tackle edge rushers middle linebackers. Yeah, that's the way

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Speaker 1: you have to do it. I I think you have

617
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Speaker 1: to redefine your depth chart because bet Your's scheme does

618
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Speaker 1: not lend itself to the typical old fashioned depth chart.

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Speaker 1: It just doesn't know. Um okay, I ill Ruise says,

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Speaker 1: I want to see se Quon Barkley on all three

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Speaker 1: downs poly dots. Um, I'll tell you what the way

622
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Speaker 1: he's going right now picking up the system, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: see him more often than you won't. So we're we're

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Speaker 1: gonna we finally gotta an answer to our question. Is

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Speaker 1: I mean, so he wants to see him. He wants

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Speaker 1: to throw him. He wants to throw him in the

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Speaker 1: deep end. As you said, Well, I'm with him. He

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Speaker 1: didn't draft him number two overall to send him and

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Speaker 1: try to get him pretty on the bench with the

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Speaker 1: hat on. Uh No, I'm sorry. Listen, you know what,

631
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Speaker 1: if you have to limit his reps on special teams

632
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: and things like that, that's fine. But man, you put

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Speaker 1: him in there to play to play. I I hear you.

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Speaker 1: I would say this. I think in situations you would

635
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Speaker 1: want to maybe see Gallman or Steward in situations. But

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Speaker 1: I am of the opinion, after watching what he's done,

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Speaker 1: especially during this offseason, picking things up as quickly as

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Speaker 1: he has, I'm inclined to say he's going to get

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Speaker 1: the bulk with the snaps. Look, look at a guy

640
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: like Gurly doesn't mean touches, means snaps Oka and I

641
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: mean um uh the Kamara. Okay, look at the way

642
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: he plays, that's probably gonna be the way that Sequon

643
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: Barkney plays. The guy catches the ball out of the backfield.

644
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: He is extremely well, he blocks well. He's smaller than

645
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: Quon Barkley, by the way. Yeah, I mean Quon Barkley

646
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: is a is a pretty big dude for me. Se

647
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: Quon Barkley has the quicks and the explosiveness of David

648
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: Meghatt did, but his body is actually much more like

649
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: what Rodney Hampton brought to the table. In fact, he's

650
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: even a little bigger than Rodney Hampton was. But he's

651
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: that kind of mold, that kind of frame, but with

652
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: the quicks of it. David Magett and quite frankly folks,

653
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: that should not physically be possible, but but he does

654
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: it every single day. We've seen him do it on

655
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: the field. We have m I guess it's Paruna. Selzer says,

656
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: what is Donte de Dion's best attribute? And I would

657
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: tell you right now without his attitude, without shadow of

658
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: a doubt. Yes, it's his approach to the game. He's

659
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: a gamer. He plays bigger than his body. He has to.

660
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,719
Speaker 1: He has to. He's a guy that that somebody has

661
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: told him he couldn't play all his life when he's

662
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: five ft eight or whatever it is. And so that's

663
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: that's not a problem for him. And it's his attitude,

664
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: it's his the way he approaches things, and and you

665
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: know that's his best attribute. By far. And you know what,

666
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: that's okay. There's some guys that are not as great talent,

667
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: but they study and their attitude gets them to the

668
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: where they need to be. We go back to the

669
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: phones line too, has j from Washington waiting. Hello, Jay,

670
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: j Hey, Paul, Hey, Jeff. How you guys doing good? Wonderful?

671
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,479
Speaker 1: How are you good? I'm well, I'm well. You know,

672
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: I haven't called him a long time, so I have

673
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: just two statements and a question. U. First, kudos to you, Paul,

674
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: you know, nicknamed you Paul Stradomis for calling say Kwon Barkley.

675
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: You're quite as excited as I was. And uh and Jeff,

676
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: kudos to you for you know, you're hitting gym with

677
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: time and the punts without a watch, you know, always

678
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: showcasing your talent, you know, always he's got a built

679
00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: in So here we go. I was impressing people with yesterday.

680
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: And it's so funny because, I mean, when you see

681
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: ten thousand punts going through the air, you kind of

682
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: learned how high and how long they are without having

683
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: you know, electronic stuff, So it was kind of funny.

684
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,479
Speaker 1: I mean, Shark was really amazed at that. By the way,

685
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: he really was. He was like, there's no way. Every

686
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: single time you're within one or two one hundreds of

687
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: a second, how does this work? I'm like, John, seriously, Okay, anyways,

688
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: thank you so absolutely so here we go. So se

689
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: Kwon Barkley extremely excited about him. You know, I've really

690
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 1: been in a fan of this guy since the two

691
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: thousand sixteen season, and uh, just extremely excited that we

692
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: have them. Um My next point is the guy John Halapio.

693
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I'm pronouncing Halapio is what we

694
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: we I butcher that name yesterday. I was a lot

695
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 1: ready to call him Telapio, like telapia fish. Okay, A

696
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: lot of folks have had trouble with it over the years,

697
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: but we've finally got to the bottom of it. It's

698
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: Tolopo Calapeo. Great. You know, I watched a lot of

699
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: tape on this guy last night, you know, watching the

700
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: Redskins game, watching a few other games that uh we're

701
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: you know a little later on in the season. And

702
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: this guy is a hands on guy. You know, when

703
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: he gets you in the run game, you know he's

704
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: opening up his gap. You know, even in the passing game,

705
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: he's very good at anchoring. I'm really excited to see him. Uh.

706
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: I like Brett Jones too, but I'm just really excited

707
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 1: to see him in the line up with Will Hernandez

708
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: and Soldier and oh mom ay, I really think that

709
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 1: can be a solid, solid line. Um. My last point

710
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: in my question, I guess to you guys this. You know,

711
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: the schedules come out, and you know, everybody obviously sees

712
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: the road that we have to get. It's kind of

713
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: like a road to perdition. But um, I'm kind of

714
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 1: feeling like, you know, we are very capable of beating

715
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: a lot of the teams. You know, a lot of

716
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: fans the same nine and seven, eight, and they even

717
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: heard six and ten. Do you have the high end

718
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: who eleven and five, thirteen and three? My question to

719
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: you guys is that do you think other teams see

720
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 1: the Giants on their schedule and have that same type of, uh,

721
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: you know, concern about playing this. I don't think any

722
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: team right now is looking ahead to their schedule and

723
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: figure it out what their opponents are gonna be. I

724
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 1: think they're too busy try to figure out what themselves

725
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 1: are gonna be. Their roster is gonna be Yeah. Honestly,

726
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be funny. I think for your

727
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: point is, I think I think that during the season,

728
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 1: you know, you can sometimes look down the road and say, Okay,

729
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: you know what this is a Giants team. There was

730
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 1: three and thirteen. You know, they're they're, they've they've they've

731
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: gotten a little bit better. But you know, we can

732
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 1: we do it when we look at the team, when

733
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: we look at the schedule, we do it. Oh yeah,

734
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 1: you know, look at the look at the you know,

735
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: here's what I will tell you. Bill Polly, in the

736
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame executive once said, and I believe it.

737
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 1: I really absolutely believe it, even more so today because

738
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: of the c b A, you really don't know a

739
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 1: lot of times what your team is until you've already

740
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: played the first month of the season. And as far

741
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: as I'm concerned, I'll say this, coach will never say this,

742
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: because no coach will ever. You don't want to be

743
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: satisfied with anything less than trying to win every game.

744
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: In my opinion, if the Giants can get through the

745
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: first four games at two and two and set themselves

746
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: up for a twelve game season after they find out

747
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: what they are and after they master this defense and

748
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: some of their rookies on offense like Barkley and Hernandez

749
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: find their way. I would sign up for that right now,

750
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: two and two after four making a twelve game year,

751
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 1: and let's let the chips fall where they make, because

752
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,919
Speaker 1: I think the Giants have a lot of talent. Yeah,

753
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 1: and my last question to do guys, and I'll take

754
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,760
Speaker 1: this off air. Who is a player you know throughout

755
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: training camp in the O t S who's not getting

756
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: a lot of notoriety but kind of playing on the field,

757
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: stepping up, you know, working card every day and showing

758
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,720
Speaker 1: that they could be capable of contributing to the team.

759
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: So thankful, lot of guys, go Giants appreciate it, Jai,

760
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: thank you. Thoughts, I don't know if I can identify

761
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: that player yet. I haven't seen enough. You mentioned one before,

762
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: Corey Latimer. Okay, Corey, Yeah, made a lot of places

763
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: in the passing. Yeah, he could be a guy that

764
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: just kind of is under the radar. A lot of

765
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: people don't know about him, and certainly you know the

766
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 1: coaching staff does um you know, I think that, yeah,

767
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 1: he might be one. And I'll tell you a guy

768
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: that I'm really excited about, and that's b J. Hill.

769
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I think this guy is gonna be a

770
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: real too. I mean I was watching him on some

771
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: of the drills they were doing, and watching him coming

772
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: off the football and and just his hand speed and position. Um,

773
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: I know Snacks likes him, so evidently he must be

774
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: good at Snacks likes him. But I think that you know,

775
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: he will he share his lunch plate with him. That's

776
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: a pretty big lunch plate. There might be a little

777
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: bit of room on there, but I think that's a

778
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: you know, those guys, that's a big front. Those guys

779
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: some big beef in there to be able to stop

780
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 1: the run. Um. So I'm interested to see how he plays.

781
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: I think he'll play a lot this year. I think

782
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 1: he will play a lot of football. I know. Snacks

783
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 1: the other day also mentioned that he thinks Tomlinson is

784
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: going to have a real step up year two. Okay, well,

785
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 1: you know what I think. Some the second year sometimes

786
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: for these guys is a big year. You know, it's

787
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: that as good as a rookie. Now, don't don't that

788
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 1: I know, I know, but I'm just saying the second

789
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: year is using the sophomore slumps that they have. You

790
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: know you're gonna go the other way now, No, I'm

791
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,240
Speaker 1: just saying you have to be you have to be careful.

792
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: These guys have to be careful. But he doesn't seem

793
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: to be the kind of guy that's going to be

794
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,959
Speaker 1: that way in my opinion. You know, alright, no sound

795
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: effects for the next call. We just go right to it.

796
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 1: Line number one is Charlie from Portland, Maine. He feeling

797
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 1: what's up? Charlie? Hey, what's going on with Mr? Illness too?

798
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: I mean, what what what is this deal? I mean,

799
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: do we know is he going to be a camp

800
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: or is this a lingering thing that's going on for

801
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: like months? Are you talking? You're talking about Macintosh? Yeah,

802
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: alright McIntosh. It had been reported, Okay, the Giants have

803
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 1: not announced anything in terms of an injury or illness

804
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: other than coach said today he's going to have some

805
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,959
Speaker 1: type of procedure and that he would not necessarily rule

806
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: any kind of schedule for him, would not rule him

807
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: out for camp, would not say he'd be back for camp.

808
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: He said, you know, we'll have to see. So whatever

809
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: it is that he's got to get taking care of

810
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: we'll we'll check it out. But you'll remember it was reported, um,

811
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: right around the time of the combine, and I'm not

812
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: sure how it was diagnosed, but it was reported that

813
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 1: he may have had a thyroid condition. Um. I don't

814
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: know if that still is the case, So let me

815
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: make that clear. I will. I will say this though, Um,

816
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: he's been here for every session. He has been hitting

817
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: the books, hitting the video. Unfortunately, not been cleared to

818
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 1: do anything on the field. So he's behind the eight

819
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: ball and that's certainly going to hurt his chances of

820
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: being active on game day if he makes the fifty three.

821
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: But of course, as you know as well, Charlie, there

822
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: are other things you can do with the guy to

823
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: give him a rich shirt year of I arm and

824
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,919
Speaker 1: practice squad him or whatever the case may be. Hey, now, now,

825
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: I just this is just a question because I don't

826
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: know the answer to it. Is. Now, you you know

827
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 1: you drafted somebody. Can you cut somebody before he because

828
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: he doesn't signed a contract yet. Can you cut somebody

829
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 1: and say, man, this guy is sick and we don't

830
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: need him anymore. Is that possible or do you have

831
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: to sign him and then really, boy, you were with

832
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: the Players Union for a while. That's a good question.

833
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 1: I don't see why. I don't. First of all, I

834
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: don't think it would ever happened. But um, you know,

835
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: maybe a late rounder guy. But um, I don't see

836
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: why you couldn't let a guy you couldn't cut him.

837
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, yeah, I mean it's just curious by

838
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 1: by value of property, you know, like if you drafted him,

839
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 1: you know, obviously he's a proper with you. Um, and yeah,

840
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: I don't see why you couldn't release him. No one's

841
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: ever asked me that question. But but but because it

842
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,919
Speaker 1: doesn't really happen that often. I mean, you know, hey,

843
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 1: my sixth round draft pick I don't like him anymore,

844
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 1: was no big deal. We didn't sign them anyway, So

845
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: get rid of it, Charlie. I'd like to think, and

846
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: again I'm speaking for myself, not for anybody in the building,

847
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: I'd like to think that if medically they can't get

848
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: this thing squared away in time, I arm for the

849
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: year in red shirt him and give him a chance

850
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 1: to come back next season. Hey, Okay, that's good. That's that. Yeah,

851
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: I agree on that. And Jeff, you were talking the

852
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: other day about This is my take on this you

853
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: were talking about. Look, special teams is the most important

854
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: thing for receivers, you know, the fourth or fifth receiver,

855
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 1: you know, that's what's gonna make them make the team.

856
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: And and I'm looking at it, I would rather have

857
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: a better wide receiver who can actually catch the ball

858
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: because it's two or three guys go down like they

859
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,240
Speaker 1: did last year. You want a player that can actually

860
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: catch the ball. And the thing is, if that did happen,

861
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: your great special team player would be called up to

862
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: the offense and he probably wouldn't be playing special teams

863
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: anyway because he would have to be playing all set. Well,

864
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,959
Speaker 1: I think it all, Yeah, I think it all goes

865
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: hand in hand. Though. I think obviously they're not gonna

866
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: you know, if you can't catch footballs as a receiver

867
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 1: and you're a good special teams player, I don't think

868
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna be on the team anyways. Right, Yeah, we'll see.

869
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: What I would say is between two players, one guy

870
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 1: who was a best special team player, but the other

871
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: guy was a better wide receiver. For me, I would

872
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: take the better wide receiver for depths. Then to have

873
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: a guy who's a good special teamer but if we

874
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: need him, he won't be playing special teams anyway, and

875
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 1: he won't be as good as the guy we let go. Okay,

876
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: I'll break it down this way. If you are a

877
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: fourth or fifth receiver, okay, fourth and fifth, fourth, you're

878
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: probably gonna get I don't know. Let's take a guess

879
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: at how many reps you're gonna get a wide receiver

880
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: being the fourth receiver in a game. Not very many?

881
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: Can we call it five? Maybe? If? Okay, a handful.

882
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: If you're a fourth or fifth receiver, there's typically forty

883
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: pre uh special teams plays you're gonna be in there.

884
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: I'm probably thirty of them. So there's my point. So

885
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: your your value is thirty snaps in prec as a

886
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,240
Speaker 1: special teams guy, or four or five as a receiver.

887
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: And remember the Giants also, when they go four wides,

888
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: they might wind up using Ingram as the fourth wide

889
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: So fourth wide receiver may not even play five snaps

890
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: in the game. Right. Yeah, But what happens, like last year,

891
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:30,280
Speaker 1: hopefully it never done again, we lose our to wide receivers,

892
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden that fourth guy is starting

893
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: he's a number two. Yeah, No, Charlie I I your ADC.

894
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: Believe me, I do. I think that in a perfect world,

895
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: you'd like to have the guy be a good special

896
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: teams player and can catch a cold whenever he wants. Right,

897
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: I'll give you a great example. That's one of the

898
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: reasons why they were so happy to have Dwayne Harris

899
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 1: and before that, Dominic Kixon. Sure those guys could play

900
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: the receiver position as well as being very good on

901
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: special and hopefully that you know a lot of as

902
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: supposed to be that guy must be that guy. And Charlie,

903
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: I want you to know. Okay, as of I am,

904
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 1: we're I'm cooking the lobster this weekend. I mean I'm

905
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: already cooked, but I'm doing the lobster roles on Father's

906
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 1: Day for for appetizers with my kids are coming over.

907
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 1: Hopefully I get to eat one, because when the boys

908
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 1: come over, I rarely get to eat anything because they

909
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: all so I will save one. Okay, I will take

910
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: a picture of it. I promise I will post it

911
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: on on on Twitter. So if the time has come,

912
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: so that'd be good. Just enjoy it. We will thank you, Charlie. You, Charlie.

913
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: We go to line three and a J from South Carolina.

914
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 1: You're next on the show. Hello, thanks for sure. Okay,

915
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I think we lost you. You still there? Hello,

916
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: a J. Did we lose you your cell phone? I

917
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: think you either have a bad connection or a bad battery.

918
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 1: Can you call us right back? Uh yeah, okay, go ahead,

919
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: go ahead. The late so huh okay, he's cutting out.

920
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: He's oh, okay, thank you, a J. We we think

921
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: we heard you met. Our producers said, he thinks you

922
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: were asking about Nate's soldier. Thank you, and we appreciate

923
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: the phone call. I'm sorry if we couldn't keep hear

924
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 1: you too good a J. Maybe you want to hit

925
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: us up on Twitter or I know we'll have time

926
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: to talk to you again tomorrow if you want to

927
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 1: give us a call back. By the way, the show

928
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,959
Speaker 1: goes back to twelve noon tomorrow Eastern time, as mini

929
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: camp is over. We do want to go back to

930
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: our originally scheduled time. Nate Soldiers said that he got

931
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: his leg rolled up on when he went down as

932
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:53,240
Speaker 1: Hernandez and Snacks Harrison got a bit feisty and aggressive

933
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: with each other, but he said he felt fine and

934
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 1: he thought he was okay. Hadn't even gone to see

935
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: the doctors. That's how minor it was. So I don't

936
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: think there's really anything to worry about. And by the way,

937
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: by the way, as as he himself said, it's the

938
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: intensity of practice this this happens. So we move on.

939
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: Line number two has Norris from New York. Hello, Hey,

940
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 1: how's it going guys? Well, Paulie and Jeff first time

941
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: caller a long time, finally be able to get We're

942
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: happy to always set us up on Twitter if you

943
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 1: have to. Yeah, yeah, I'll try to try before. But

944
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: this is the first I'm getting through, so I'm happy.

945
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: But I just want to talk to talk about a

946
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: couple of things today. First, I've always always say that's

947
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: my friends. I'm want to think Ben McAdoo and the

948
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: coaching staffrom last year just for a good season in

949
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: in and then having us go three and thirteen seventeen,

950
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: because all that that strife allowed us to get Sae

951
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: Kwon Barkley. Who I mean, if we didn't win the

952
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, you might as well get a good pick

953
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: out of it. So now we've got to stay kan

954
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: and we have a fresh start in this year to

955
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: really make some things happen. But I think, for one,

956
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: we'll say Kanon Bok in the team. UM. I always

957
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 1: call Eli general, Eli Manning the general of the offense.

958
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: I think it was Take Kuan on the team, Odell

959
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: Beckham and serting S on the outside and Evan Ingram

960
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: of the seam. Offense is gonna be really hard for

961
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: defenses to match up with, and it's gonna give us

962
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: UM a lot of opportunities to put up a lot

963
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: more numbers this season. Something. It's gonna be really big

964
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 1: for US. I have just a feeling that this year

965
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna be playing for the NFC Championship game. At

966
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: least that's just a random prediction of mine. But I

967
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: think we can make it happen this year. And I

968
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: have a question for you guys. I've heard Hernandez get

969
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: into a couple of different scuffles during training camp and

970
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: UM and O T A s and stuff like that.

971
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: What what would it be that's causing these scuffles to happen? Um, Like,

972
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: why why are these guys always going, you know, back

973
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: and forth and kind of fighting and you think it's gonna,

974
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 1: you know, have any carry over into the normal season.

975
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: I'll appreciate you guys, and please do call again. We

976
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: appreciate it very much. Jeff I, we can't speak to

977
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 1: exactly what has happened in these individual instances where there's

978
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 1: been abrasiveness with Will Hernandez on on a couple of cases,

979
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: but tell me from your experience in years past and

980
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: keep it clean. That would be something that might have

981
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: triggered a bit of sandpaper during your time in training camp.

982
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: I will tell you this. I can already see what

983
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: this is. This is a classic example of veteran versus rookie. Okay,

984
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: because you know these veterans, they kind of want to

985
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: test out these guys, these guys your teammates. Now, okay,

986
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: so it's gonna be clean. They're not gonna be any

987
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: you know, haymakers coming down things like that. But you know,

988
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 1: Hernandez has a reputation coming in as being a kind

989
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: of a guy that's gotten a little bit of scuffles

990
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: here and there. Um Snacks is a is a guy

991
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: that is gonna push the He's gonna push it. He's

992
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: gonna push him and just want to make wants to

993
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: see this kind of attitude that this guy has. They're

994
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: gonna practice against each other all year, Okay, And I

995
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: think that it's almost like, you know that point where

996
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: there's a little feeling out process. You know, how far

997
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 1: can I push the this guy before he bends? And

998
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,479
Speaker 1: obviously not very far because Will Hernanas will fight you back,

999
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: which is a good thing in my mind. I don't

1000
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,280
Speaker 1: care as long as it doesn't lead to a penalty

1001
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: and to answer your question or anybody getting hurt or anybody,

1002
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: I don't yeah, and including himself. Um, but I think

1003
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: that what happens is is that you know, a lot

1004
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: of time does the heat is the frustration of being

1005
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: in training camp for a long time. These things are

1006
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: This was not There's not a lot of going on

1007
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 1: out there practice. It's not hot. I know that they're

1008
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: They're not like in full pads and going full speed

1009
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: and that kind of stuff. So I just think it's

1010
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 1: a little bit of a hey, rookie, let me show

1011
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 1: you how the things are done here. Um, and you

1012
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: know you're a big shot second round here. I'm gonna

1013
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: tell you, you know, I'm gonna I'm basically gonna show

1014
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: you who's boss and to be honest with you, and

1015
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna speak for what happened during this mini

1016
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 1: camp at all. But I know of past camps, training

1017
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: camps where assistant coaches or even head coaches would say

1018
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 1: they go to a veteran and say, we gotta tesch

1019
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 1: that guy out. We gotta find out what he's made of.

1020
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: We gotta find out what his metal is. Push him

1021
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 1: to the line, push his button. I'm not saying go

1022
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: fight a guy. Nobody ever says to a player, go

1023
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: fight a guy. Just getting ahead, you know what, Let's

1024
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:15,720
Speaker 1: let's test his intensity, let's test his mentality, let's test

1025
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: his threshold, and and just see what kind of fire

1026
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: he's got. And then sometimes it boils over a little bit.

1027
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 1: And sometimes it's just you know, it's just a play.

1028
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: It's just a play that happens where you know, there's

1029
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 1: a little bit of more extracurricular activity going on. You know,

1030
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: just a little push after the play and or you know,

1031
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 1: a little slippage of you know, booming right into the

1032
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: guy's chin catches him off guard. It doesn't feel good, obviously,

1033
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: and he's gonna he's gonna bicker back and fight back,

1034
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 1: and the next thing, you know, the other guy's not

1035
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 1: gonna put up with it, and then you have a fight.

1036
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 1: Let's not forget these are no contact practices right now.

1037
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: So that's the other thing. Guys are used to hitting anybody,

1038
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: and if somebody accidentally trips or falls on somebody and

1039
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: lands the wrong way, all of a sudden, it's like, whoa,

1040
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: you hit me. We're not supposed to have caught well.

1041
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 1: I do know this. I know that the offensive lineman

1042
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: the defensive lineman have a wink wink, you know, when

1043
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: they're going in practice and they're doing one on ones

1044
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: and you know it's a hot day and this and that.

1045
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 1: You know, Deal used to say this to me all

1046
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: the time. He's you know, I'd ask him that, like

1047
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: how why why why do some guys get in fights

1048
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: and some guys don't, and deals like because we have

1049
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: we have packs, like you know, I'll stay to the

1050
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: defensive lineman. Listen, I am feeling good today. Let's let's

1051
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: keep it down a little bit, you know, And they

1052
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: have that all of a sudden, you cross my face,

1053
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: and I have I have an agreement with you when

1054
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: you come after me when I told you not to.

1055
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a fight, But there's be a fight,

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Speaker 1: Day to everybody by the way, coming not even though

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