1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: And we're gonna be joined by Albert Brier, who of 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: course covers the NFL for Sports Illustrated. Albert, you got 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: Lance medal and pauled a Tino with John Schmilk here 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,319 Speaker 1: in various parts of the Tri state area. Hope you're 5 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 1: and your family are are doing well and are safe 6 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: in these very odd times. Yeah, he had definitely a 7 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: weird times. I hope you guys are you guys are good, Yes, 8 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: we are, Albert, and thanks a lot for the time. 9 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: We have a lot to get to. But I want 10 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: to start with the Sky Judge because you did a 11 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: very lengthy article on it, um a couple of days ago, 12 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: which I thought was was very very helpful. Can you 13 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: explain the fans out there exactly what the league approved 14 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: in regards to the quote unquote Sky Judge yesterday and 15 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: exactly how you think that is going to proceed and 16 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: how the idea kind of got to where it is. Yeah, 17 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: I mean it's sort of a long story, but I 18 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: think really, Uh, this was twofold number one. It was um, 19 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: you know, the Saints Rams game, the result of that 20 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: in the NFC title game and Annuary point nineteen that 21 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: almost right away after that, how the a f UM 22 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: you know, which obviously is not had a funct I 23 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: was able to effectively institute you know, an official up top. 24 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 1: And I think you know, the coaches gathered and UM 25 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: really kind of organized on this. John Harbaugh was you know, 26 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: UM assigned by the subcommittee to to run point on 27 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: it UM. And the idea was, I think the guy 28 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: in principle was that it's just insane that you know, 29 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: all of us sitting at home on our couches have 30 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: the benefit of eight, ten, twelve different angles of crystal 31 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: clear HD television to watch everything slowed up, spet uh, slowed, 32 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: slowed down, speed up, all that, and the guys who 33 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: are officialing in the game don't have that. And so 34 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: you know, really the goal of the coaches subcommittee wants 35 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: to find the way to amend that. UM. The coaches 36 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: actually wrote a sky proposal two dozen and ninety voted 37 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: through thirty two or nothing. UM. The owners weren't ready 38 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: to go there yet. That's where the past interfearence UM 39 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: review became a compromise. You know. And then after you know, 40 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 1: things went wrong with pastes and really over the last 41 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,399 Speaker 1: few months had to think had to bring it back 42 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: to the dead, you know. And so there's a lot 43 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: of compromising that went into this, um you know, but 44 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: they they're they're they're thinking what they think is a 45 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: very meaningful first step. Um. They never you know, wanted 46 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: this guy to be in the position to overrule the 47 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: reference he or stop the game or any of that. Uh. 48 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:29,839 Speaker 1: They just wanted to find a way to make sure 49 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: that they could, um, you know, have um the extra resource, 50 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: the extra technological resource for the vectory, so more of 51 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: these obvious things get caught, and um, you know what 52 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: they're gonna have now was the replay official having added 53 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: an added ability to communicate with the referees and the field. 54 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 1: Is a meaningful first step and the one of some 55 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: preseason um you know, we'll see in the regular season. 56 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: And if it works in the regular season, then I 57 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: would expect it will be more formalized. One Albert, there 58 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: are two questions that I have about this whole thing, 59 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: and that is, if there's an egregious mistake that we 60 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: can all see, is it's still incumbent upon the head 61 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: referee on the field to buzz upstairs to converse with 62 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: that replay official, and and then had that kind of 63 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: conversation or from what I understand, if I got this right, 64 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: the replay guy upstairs, he cannot buzz downstairs. It's incumbent 65 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:31,399 Speaker 1: upon the guy on the field to initiate that convo. 66 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: That's number one and then number two kind of apart 67 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: bet of this whole thing, the CFL has been using 68 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: a sky judge for a few years. It wasn't just 69 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: that the Alliance used it when they experimented a year ago. Uh, 70 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: They've already had this now for several years. I wonder 71 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: why I haven't seen more uh communication or heard of 72 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: communication between the NFL and the Canadian folks to say, listen, 73 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: you've had it for a few years. You worked out 74 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: the bugs, you got all the wrinkles flattened out. Why 75 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: don't we just take what you guys are doing. It's 76 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: a good question. UM, I don't know the answer on 77 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: on the on the second question, whether or not they haven't, 78 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: you know, institute the CFL way of doing it. UM. 79 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: I do know that they've sort of looked at the 80 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: way different believes have done it. I'm sure they've done 81 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: a lot of you know, work in looking into what 82 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: the CFL has done. UM. On your first question. The 83 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: answer is that there will be a window, Um, And 84 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: the way the coaches wrote it, Uh, the expectation is 85 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: it will be a window where the replacers you can 86 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,119 Speaker 1: call down and it's gonna be the first fifteen seconds 87 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: of the play clock. And you know, really what that insures, um, 88 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: is that this won't be you know, okay, the guys 89 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: sitting up there analyzing, analyzing, you know, the broadcast for 90 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: twenty five seconds and then buzzes down. It's gonna be 91 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: It has to be clear and obvious. It has to 92 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: be black and white. And if it's black and white, 93 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: and I'll show up right away and the guy I'll 94 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: be able to buzz it down. Um. You know, like 95 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: in the Saints Rams example, Uh, he certainly would have 96 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: been able to get down to the head referee fast. 97 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: And so you know there's a case of game thing 98 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: that they want to limit the communication to something but 99 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: about anything else. Like the idea is really the kind 100 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: of give the gives the head referee that resource, which 101 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: I mean sort of off the books has already been 102 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: happening anyway, Albert, how much does this impact the role 103 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: of New York in terms of this whole process and 104 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: you know the other aspect of all of this is, 105 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: you know, you mentioned the gray area versus the black 106 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: and white area. How much perhaps the implementation of the 107 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:46,679 Speaker 1: sky judge is to maybe give coaches not a reason 108 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: to challenge as much as perhaps we've seen in previous seasons. Yeah, 109 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: Um well, I mean I like the first question, I 110 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: don't think I think it's sort of like kind of 111 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: keeps New York out of it a little bit more, um, 112 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: you know. And I think one of the things that's 113 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: important here is that the coaches really did want to 114 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: an eighth official hired, and they didn't want to make 115 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: that person a part of the crew. And the trust 116 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 1: and communication was such a big part of it, you 117 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, I don't think any officiating 118 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: crew wanted to listen to, you know, like to negstore 119 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,679 Speaker 1: constantly about what was going on in there in their game, 120 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: like you know. And I think it's you know, this 121 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 1: kind of different context of the person who is buzzing 122 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: down to you is upstairs, you know, and and in 123 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: the stadium and part of your crew. When there's a 124 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: level of communication and trust be developed between people, and 125 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: so you know, I didn't that part of it's really important. 126 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: What was your second question? Again? The second question was 127 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: in reference to how this may impact the urgency of 128 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: coaches to use challenges, given the fact that there's now 129 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: an extra individual in the mix. Yeah, and that part 130 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: of it I think is good too, because I like, 131 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: look like I think it's certainly punstable. Well, it could 132 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: be clunky of perish, and we'll have to work through it. 133 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: But you know, I think if they're I think it 134 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: should take the black and white ones out out of 135 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: the out of play, you know what I mean, like 136 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: where and again this isn't gonna involve counties right away, 137 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: and so they still have some work to do on 138 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: some of that stuff. But um, you know this black 139 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: and white, the guy will call down and you know, 140 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: the guy all saying no, you know, like we like 141 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: that this is obvious. There's no need to go through 142 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: a challenge process. Um, they'll call it this way, call 143 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: it that way, whatever the case may be. And you 144 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: know that actually should help pace to play. Um, if 145 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: you you really want to look at you know, like 146 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: what's flowing games down? You know a lot of times 147 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: it's the obvious challenges And you know, I think what 148 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: this with this with eliminated is the overly obvious ones 149 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: where you have the rest walking over to the machine, 150 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: going under the hud hood, staying under the hud for 151 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: however long, and then coming back just to tell us 152 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: what we already know. You know, I think eliminating that 153 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: part of it is, you know, an important piece of 154 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: this and know again, like I think could be one 155 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: way in which you know the pace of play issue. 156 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: Actually you know, it's becomes a benefit that now we're 157 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: just to confirm this is just traditionally reviewable plays right, 158 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: fummal interception, out of bounds, things like that. So do 159 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: you think yet? But I think it will be eventually. 160 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: Well that was getting my question, how much do you 161 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: think this can grow? Where you know you have a 162 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: quote unquote flag being thrown from the booth for something 163 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: that is to your point egregious entire I on the 164 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: idea was ever to give the the booth on fire 165 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: the sky just want to call the idea was ever 166 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: to give him the ability to throw a flood um? 167 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: I you know, I just I understand maybe it worked 168 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: that way in the a like, I don't think it 169 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: was ever to intention to do that. The coach the 170 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: intention here was to again have that guy upstairs the 171 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: a resource. Um. And so I think, you know, I 172 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: think it certainly could expand to kind of encompass everything 173 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: from the guy up there, like you could be available 174 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: to help the referee on everything. And you know, I 175 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 1: don't know, it's sort of oversight, there's gonna be So 176 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,719 Speaker 1: it certainly is possible that the guy is helping him 177 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: on things that you know, kind of again off the books, 178 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: that he needs help on. Um. You know, I I 179 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: but I don't think I'm suffer about like putting somebody 180 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: up there who could throw flags. Um. You know, ultimately 181 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: the coach's plan had always incorporated the head referee being 182 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: jogs and does this guy being part of the crew 183 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: and reported to the head referee. And again, so much 184 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: of that is about having that level of trust and communication. 185 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: You know, if you have that, well then it's a 186 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: lot easier guy to buzz down and say, hey you 187 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: got this wrong. Pick that up, you know, or hey 188 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: you get the wrong throw the flag. Um. You know, 189 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: it's just I mean to me, it's you know, again, 190 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: it's not about the fifty five calls. It's about the 191 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: calls that have you know, when these guys on the 192 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: Sports Center on Monday boards. So just I want to 193 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: follow very quickly. Do you think at some point Outbert, 194 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: they might readdress the past interference issue. Look, we all 195 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: know how poorly went next. Do you no one's gonna 196 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: no one's gonna have that debate. Do you think down 197 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: the line, maybe addressing past interference is reviewable at some 198 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: point might get back into the mix in some way, 199 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: shape or form. I honestly think they of the pasting 200 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: interference thing became political and that was part of the problem, um, 201 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: And that's part of what the NFL had to work through. Um. 202 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: You know, between the coaches and the officials. The coaches organized, 203 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: and the coaches really fought back on it. I think 204 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: some degree the referees felt like they were sort of 205 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if the fingers pointing towards port point 206 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: that them in twenty nineteen, And you know, I think 207 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: that that led to the way the thing was officiated. 208 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I think the fact that 209 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: the officials were so resident, but resident to overturn anything, um, 210 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: you know, in the area of past interfererence. I think 211 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: told you how they fell about that rule going in 212 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: and they weren't really, Um, I don't get the field 213 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: official roys felt like they were considered that process. So, um, 214 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: you know, I I think in this case, that's the 215 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:17,119 Speaker 1: coaches have worked so hard to like incorporate the officials 216 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: this time around. Work with Walt Anderson on it, um, 217 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: you know, work with Paris Fuel, who's gonna be a 218 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: liaison on it. Like I think working with the people 219 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 1: that they worked with trying to get this thing done. Um, 220 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: you know, I think certainly creates a different concepts because 221 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: you're just not officials versus coaches anymore. It's coaches wanted 222 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: with officials to approve the game. And I mean, look 223 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: like here's the thing, guys, right, so these guys are 224 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: crazy every week, right, the officials are greater every week. 225 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: If I told you that I can give you the 226 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: answers to some of the tests that we're gonna go 227 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: into your grade, would you take them? I mean, and 228 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: that's the thing, right, Like it's like if if if 229 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 1: a guy shares is giving me the benefit of the broadcast, um, 230 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: you know, and is able to kind of and look, 231 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: the game moves so fast, it's obviously there you gonna 232 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: miss some stuff. Um, you know, so like if if 233 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 1: if a guy, if a guy upstairs, you know, it's 234 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: it's giving me the benefit of not missing, you know, 235 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: an obvious call every two or for weeks. Uh, and 236 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 1: that's gonna mean that week. I'm you know, and I 237 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: don't know how to call how the grading scale wants 238 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: to exactly, but that that means I'm gonna get a 239 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: B plus for that week instead of a B plus. 240 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take that right absolutely, Yeah, go ahead. I'm 241 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: sorry that that's the idea though. It's just a resource, 242 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like it's it's giving the 243 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 1: efficient something that's gonna make them better and giving them 244 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: giving them something that's going to make them better without 245 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: really intruding in the way. Albert to pull back the 246 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: microscope a little bit. And I know I'm hitting the 247 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: fast forward button when I ask you this. And the 248 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 1: XFL is a dirty word in NFL circle. I get that. 249 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: But I think one of the things that that the 250 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: XFL did this past year to kind of alleviate fans 251 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: frustrations with calls and replay in particular, was the fact 252 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: that they allowed that communication that was happening between the 253 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: officials to be broadcast over the television. Now, I can't 254 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: imagine that the NFL is going to do anything that 255 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: the XFL did, especially in such short notice, uh, considering 256 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: that there's not a lot of love between the leagues. 257 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: But do you think there's ever a chance that that 258 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: could be something that the NFL folks would talk about 259 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: down the line since it did seem to be an 260 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: effective thing at reducing fans frustrations. Business people wouldn't find it, 261 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: but I definitely think the football people wouldn't want it, 262 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: And so I don't know. I don't know, Paul. I 263 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: think that's a hard thing because that's one of those 264 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: things that have to be bartered. And um, you know, 265 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: we've seen the way that you know, those football people 266 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: and all in an accent and now horns. You know, 267 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: people on the business side, people on the entertainment side 268 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: have had to fight to get access to certain things, 269 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: hard knocks of being a perfect example of it. How 270 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: many teams don't want to do hard knocks and so like, 271 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: I just think that's one of those things where I'm 272 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: sure there are some people at the league officer who 273 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: would do that tomorrow if there weren't people that would 274 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: stand in the way. But I just think right now, UM, 275 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: there are too many football football people who stand in 276 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: the way, and there are a lot of trust in 277 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: those conversations to between officials, between officials and coaches. Um, 278 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: there's a certain theory that all those guys have, even 279 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: if it does look like they may hate each other 280 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: at times, those guys have, and a lot of that 281 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: days from the fact that they're saying things that can't 282 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: be eating anywhere else, sure, Albert. Another piece of the 283 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: equation yesterday, in addition to the conversation regarding the sky judge, was, 284 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: of course the fact that the owners decided to table 285 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: the alternative to the onside kicks of the fourth and 286 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: fifteen player has not been adopted, and all of the 287 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: talk has been about the pros and cons of the 288 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: fourth and fifteen aspect. I'm curious, Albert, and I've thrown 289 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: this out a lot on various shows. What has been 290 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: the conversation at all about maybe tweaking the on side 291 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: kick itself and looking at that play and finding ways 292 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: to get it to a higher conversion rate, as opposed 293 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: to continually emphasizing another option to that play. I don't know, 294 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: I you know, I I would say this. I think 295 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: most of the coaches I talked to believe that should 296 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: be hard. I think, you know what I mean, that 297 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: should not be an easy play to pull off. Um, 298 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: you know, because basically what you're doing and cheating is 299 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: the wrong world. But you are cheating the system to 300 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: a degree, right, But there's a reason why the other 301 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: teams out the way that are off. And I understand 302 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: the entertainment value of having a team come back from 303 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: a big depths and everything else, but um, you know, 304 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: I I think most coaches would tell you that, you know, 305 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: if you kicking other team's asked for you know, fifty 306 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: three fifty four minutes, Like why should the lead be 307 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: creating attnues for you to you know, to to to 308 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: lose what you earned for start fifty three minutes or 309 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: four minutes of the game. And so you know, I 310 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, like, I think the NFL was 311 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: trying to find a way, and the Eagles obviously were 312 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: part of this, like trying to find a way where 313 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: they could take a was a difficult play to pull 314 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: off the once I kick and create another difficult play 315 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: to pull off, which the fourth and fifteen um and 316 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: make it more entertaining. At the root of it, I 317 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: think that that that's a big part of what this was. 318 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: It wasn't so much let's make it more makeable, um, 319 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: although I think that was definitely there. It was how 320 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: do we sort of add entertainment value to this? And 321 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: and look like I you know, the NFL has always 322 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: done a really good job of being proactive and and 323 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: and not being um, you know, not being uh you know, 324 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: against change. But this felt to me, and I know 325 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: it felt to a lot of owners like this is 326 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: a little out of left field and going a little 327 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: far and um, you know, certainly, I think part of 328 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: the reason why they were so far off from um, 329 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: I mean a full for eight boats short off of 330 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: us getting this thing through yesterday, it was because the 331 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 1: football people weren't in the room. And so I think 332 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 1: without having that discussion with the general managers and the 333 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 1: head coach is part of it made it difficult for 334 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: some of the owners to wrap their wrap their arms 335 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: around it. You know, Honestly, Albert I was surprised it 336 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: was sixteen sixteen. You know, I feel like a lot 337 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: of times, you know, the people at the top of 338 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: the ladder are very resistant to change. It was a 339 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: better result than, you know, as you pointed out on 340 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: one of your tweets yesterday, than when they discussed the 341 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: proposal a year prior. Is this something that you think 342 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: might pick up more steam as they bring in the 343 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: coaches and get their opinion, or do you think that's 344 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: just something that that is dead on the table. No, 345 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think it's dead. I like, but 346 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 1: I I do think that I would say this, like, 347 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: you know, I mentioned how bringing coaches and can help 348 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: with these sorts of things. I don't think everybody's for 349 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 1: it either, you know, and I think there are some people, 350 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 1: um you know that what probably to look at this 351 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 1: and say it's bastardizing something that's you know, it's very 352 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: room part of the game. Like it's not. This is 353 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: an adjusting agent. Is like eliminating something that's been part 354 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 1: of football or working to eliminating and it's been part 355 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: of football for a long long time. And so I uh, 356 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 1: you know, I I like, I just I wonder which 357 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 1: way that discussion would go, you know, with the realistic 358 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: chance of something like this passes. I wonder how that 359 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: discussion would go in the room with the body of 360 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: coaches and the body of general managers. Uh, because I 361 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: do think, um, I mean, you know, a great example 362 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: is like, how you know Belichicks was a purist, Like 363 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: he was one of the people that wanted to make, 364 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: uh be extra point of more competitive play, right, Like, 365 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: so you you back that kick up a little bit. Um, 366 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: that's tweaking it, but that's leaving the essence to the land. 367 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: How would somebody like like Belichick feel about, you know, 368 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: removing or working to remove the inside kicks in the game. 369 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: I'd be ansterested to here is and and I'm not 370 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: so sure that it would be necessarily in favor of it. 371 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: Final question for me, Albert. One of the other things 372 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: that went through was the expansion of i R to 373 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: allow three players to be designated for return during the season. 374 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: How much of that do you think when it's effect 375 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: because that the coaches and the owners and the gm 376 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: s understand that without the spring camps and maybe a 377 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 1: very limited training camp, that there's a great deal of 378 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 1: more potential for injuries this season. I think part of 379 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 1: it was just the way links following. I mean, like 380 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 1: I I honestly think to think like that that they 381 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: went to one one work they want to to to work. 382 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: And I do think that there's part of like pop 383 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: part of this process here is is extending this like 384 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: the like football doesn't have a thirty d M or 385 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: sixt a d L the way that baseball does. Right, 386 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: So this is finding a way to make it easier 387 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: for for teams to manage the rosters as players get injured. 388 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: So I think it's I think it's about more than 389 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: this year. I'm not saying it's not possible that maybe 390 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: it was pushed through this year because of the circumstance 391 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: that we're all that that we're all in right now. 392 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: That's certainly possible. And what will be really fascinating to 393 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: see going for where is whether or not there's some 394 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: special exemp list for guys who test positive for COVID 395 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: when we get to the fall, because I'm telling you, 396 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: I mean, practice squads are never gonna be there. I've 397 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: never been more important, Like but there's I mean that 398 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: at the bottom of the roster means more than it 399 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: ever has before. Uh and that and I'm saying that 400 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: not knowing if we'll have a single positive test, I 401 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: mean I still will have some, but um, you know, 402 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: I do know that teams are going to have to 403 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: take those parts of the roster are way more more 404 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: seriously than they have, and they already take those little 405 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: seriously because you know, if there's certain circumstances come up, 406 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: a certain hypotheticals play out. Um, Now, there's no question 407 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: that you should be calling on guys that you wouldn't 408 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: otherwise be calling on. We're talking with Albert Brier, senior 409 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: NFL reporter for Sports Illustrated Monday Morning Quarterback, and Albert, 410 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: before we let you go, related to that topic, it 411 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: actually seems as if the new c b A is 412 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: pretty accommodating to your point, especially with the expansion of 413 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: the active game day rosters and some flexibility in terms 414 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: of bringing guys up from the practice squad. The other 415 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 1: thing that I was reading with respect to expansion of 416 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: i R flexibility, Albert, and I'm curious your thoughts is 417 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 1: about maybe giving teams an opportunity to put players on 418 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: i R before the actual roster is finalized, right after 419 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: cut down day and it had some fuel but didn't 420 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 1: not have enough to pass through. What have you been 421 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: hearing on that front and whether or not you know 422 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: that would pretty much really open Pandora's box across the NFL. Yeah, 423 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: I I think that, Well, that guy sent back to 424 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: the management council. So I mean there's some I think 425 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: our salary cap ramifications and that sort of stuff like that. 426 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 1: To me, like that's a pretty common sense thing, um, 427 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: you know, where you know, you really like last year 428 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: for example, like the Bills had to cut Kurt Coleman 429 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: and the Brown kind of cut like Robinson and you know, 430 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: let those guys clear waivers, let they come back and 431 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: sign them again because they needed to carry another guy 432 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: through to the fifty three. So they get that guy 433 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: her turn. And I'm probably you know, people wanting me 434 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: say that, their eyes are probably placing over But I 435 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 1: like it, Like it's just felt like that was that 436 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: that felt really like clunky and silly to me last 437 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: year where teams have to having to cut players and 438 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: exposed players to the market just to get another one through. 439 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: And so I think that's adjusted. It's a matter of when. 440 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: It's obviously a new thing because one of these unintended 441 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: consequences of the way the world was written. Um yeah, 442 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: but it will be interesting to see, if you know, 443 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: we were here in a few weeks that management council 444 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: they like it, and maybe it does wind up going 445 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: through before you get to August. Have our final question, 446 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: just in terms of the league returning this year, and 447 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 1: this is way long in the future. You might not 448 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: even have a feel for this, but it's a question 449 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 1: I've been thinking about and I heard I haven't heard 450 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: many people talk about it. When the league tries to 451 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: play this year, Let's say, in theory, one team has 452 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 1: more than one positive test, multiple positive tests right on 453 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: a Saturday night before Sunday game. How flexible is the 454 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: league going to be here? Where if one team maybe 455 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: can't play one week at the end of the year, 456 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: if a couple of teams a handful of teams don't 457 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 1: get a full six team games in, but the rest 458 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: of the league does, are they willing to be that 459 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: flexible in how they handled the season, because as we 460 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: all know, this is really an unprecedented deal, and I 461 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: think the more flexibility that wanting to have, the better 462 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: chance we have of really getting as full of a 463 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: season as possible. Yeah, and I don't know, I don't 464 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: know it for daily testing now, And obviously there's the 465 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 1: whole issue like who are you taking tests away from 466 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: all that. So you know, I I that part. I'm not. 467 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: I'm not positive how that's gonna work, but I think 468 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: it does sort of highlight why daily testing is important, 469 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: because Okay, are you going to test it on like 470 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: it was out in practices for the first thing day 471 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: before he goes out and practices for the first time 472 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: that week? Now are you in testing to get on Friday? 473 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: Of course testing before the game? Right, just all these 474 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: different checkpoints in an NFL week that you're crossing, and 475 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: you know, I you know, that's why I like, you know, 476 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: the concern of course being like if one guy has 477 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: her kind of spread um, if you're not on top 478 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 1: of it, it can spread really quickly, and you know, 479 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: scenario like you laid out could wind up manifesting. And 480 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: so that's why they've got to be so you know, 481 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: they've gotten so vigilant about being on top of this, 482 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: and that's why I think like even bringing players back 483 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: in June to work out or whatever, which I know 484 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 1: there's some I mean, they've advocated for it. This advocates 485 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: for the idea that they want to test because from 486 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: that all players by the end of June. Um. You know, 487 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: I think It's stuff about that is now you're finding 488 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: the country and you're bringing them in, and you know, 489 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 1: how do you handle that and you're sending it back out? 490 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: You know, I know there's some people that feel like, 491 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 1: you know, you just let the players be until training camp, 492 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: and then when you get training camp, everybody's in a hotel. 493 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: So there's sort of in a natural fluencine anyway. Absolutely, 494 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: but we really appreciate all the time today awesome stuff. 495 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 1: We love you're reporting. Thank you so much for the time. 496 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 1: We look forward to seeing you continue trying to figure 497 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: out exactly what's going to happen this year because we're 498 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: all kind of waiting with bated breath hoping we have 499 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: the season. Yeah, all right, thanks guys, appreciate you