1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: It's muddled the picture, and it's forced teams to hold 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: on longer because they don't want to give up on 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: a season necessarily and signal to their fans that, you 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: know what, even though we're four games out of a 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: wild card, we don't feel we can do it. 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 2: Welcome back to foul Territory. I am Trevor May, host 7 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 2: of May Day, a live show that I do every 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: Monday at four pm Eastern Time right here on the channel. 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 2: And during that show, I do a segment called May Explaining, 10 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: where I get to go deep and dive into a 11 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: subject that maybe has never been explained in the way 12 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 2: that I do it. So without further ado, let's just 13 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: hop right into it. This is May Explaining Rapsodo and Hawkeye. 14 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 2: I'll tell you this information. Paul Skins has added two 15 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 2: pitches to his arsenal going into twenty twenty five. 16 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: No do it, don't buckle up. 17 00:00:54,880 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: It's time for some May splaining. It is All Star 18 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: Week down in Atlanta. All the best players in the 19 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: major leagues met down there, gott into some shananigans, went 20 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 2: head to head. We saw some great matchups and we 21 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: also saw that the draft happened this week as well. 22 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,839 Speaker 2: Quite the busy week if you are indeed an MLB 23 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 2: executive or part of the executive team at all. A 24 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: lot of pressure, a lot of things going on, and 25 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 2: a lot of it is happening on the same day. 26 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: Can't be fun, must be exhausting, and most probably can't 27 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 2: wait for this week to be over so they can 28 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 2: take a little bit of rest. But unfortunately for them, 29 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 2: the real pressure is put on starting Monday, and that 30 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 2: is the trade deadline. The trade deadline this year is 31 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: July thirtieth, sorry, July thirty first, at six pm Eastern Time. 32 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: It is the point at which no team can trade 33 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 2: any players or receive any players to take them into 34 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: the playoff race. And a lot of things in the 35 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 2: system have changed over the years. But I was thinking, 36 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 2: how how did we get to where we are and 37 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,839 Speaker 2: where did this whole thing start? Today we are going 38 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 2: to break down the history of the trade deadline so 39 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 2: that we can appreciate this time in our lives just 40 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 2: a little bit more in twenty twenty five, and I'm 41 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: really excited. I'm really excited. I love doing research because 42 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 2: I am a big nerd, So let's talk about it. 43 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 2: The year is nineteen twenty three. Okay, can you picture 44 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:45,119 Speaker 2: it good? There was no trade deadline before nineteen twenty three. 45 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: Before then, it was just anyone could go anywhere, willie 46 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 2: nilly at any point in the season, and no one 47 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: was really worried about one team having an advantage over another. 48 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 2: I believe it. This time there was only eight teams, 49 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 2: so the league is in its infancy. There was no 50 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: need for trade deadline until nineteen twenty three, when a 51 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 2: June fifteenth trade deadline was put in place, and it 52 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 2: was intended to prevent late season, late season buying of championships, 53 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 2: which is what trade ladlines have had in spirit the 54 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 2: entire time they've existed, and to encourage roster consistency for 55 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: the stretch run. We don't want to have a different 56 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 2: team winning that stretch those games with the stretch than 57 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: they did to get them there. 58 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: Right. 59 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 2: That makes a lot of sense to me, and this 60 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 2: is setting the stage for a lot of the parody 61 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 2: we look for in our game. The man in question, 62 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: the pioneer of this new change to the rules, was 63 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: none other than Kennesaw Landing. Sorry, Kennesaw Mountain Landis. That's 64 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: quite a mouthful. There's a lot of nicknames back there, 65 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: and I got really excited to say it. So sometimes 66 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: that happens. This gentleman who may or may not ever smile, 67 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 2: he was one of the most intense people I've ever 68 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 2: seen and try to fight pictures. Honestly, it was very hard, 69 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 2: like we have this one and then we got this guy, 70 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 2: but then we got a little bit of a smirk 71 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 2: on this one from Kanasau Mountain, but then he hit 72 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 2: us with this guy. So let's just put it this way. 73 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: Intimidation one of the major tools in Kanasaan Mountains toolbox. 74 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 2: As commissioner, because he was commissioner at the time, he 75 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,679 Speaker 2: actually oversaw the first official trade in nineteen twenty nine. 76 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 2: His tenure was actually focused and this is going to 77 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: feel like a political campaign, but on restoring the integrity 78 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: of posts Black Sox scandal who we know earlier this year, 79 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 2: the Black Sox scandal with the Shulis show. Jackson is 80 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: depicted in the Field of Dreams with you know, you 81 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: know all about the story and they were all reinstated 82 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 2: back into baseball this year and it was a big 83 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: smear on the game and a lot of people were 84 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 2: turned off to the game after that. Happened because you 85 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: couldn't know if anything was really happening the way it was, 86 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 2: and Kenesaw sent out to clean that up and file counts. 87 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 2: It did the job for sixty years. The trade deadline 88 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 2: was set on June fifteenth and did not change until 89 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty six. 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Well, now that 124 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 2: is what I am used to either presidents or commissioners 125 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 2: looking like. At least we got a little smile here 126 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 2: out of Peter. The way he changed it in nineteen 127 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 2: eighty six was he introduced the waiver system, the August 128 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 2: Waiver system. How that works. And if you'll remember from 129 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 2: our story on DFAs and what they how they work, 130 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 2: one of the option was putting a player on waivers. 131 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 2: What that effectively does because waiver claims in baseball, fantasy 132 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,679 Speaker 2: baseball waiver claims, and fantasy sports waiver claims are based 133 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 2: on that system. So it's a list of players that 134 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: are available, and then there is a picking order that 135 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 2: teams have to go through in order to get their guys. 136 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: So if you get the first pick in the waivers, 137 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 2: you can go grab them and pay them, you know, 138 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: whatever their minimum salary is, and the other team is 139 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 2: on the hook for the rest of them salary. That's 140 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: how it works, or used to work until recently. So 141 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: what they would do is someone would put a guy 142 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 2: on the waiver claim maybe the guy the team tenth 143 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 2: guy team on the list was the teams that early 144 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 2: in the list don't make a lot of waiverclaims usually, 145 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 2: so they hoard them like they do in fantasy and 146 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 2: so teams could trade then trade for that player, and 147 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 2: then so the first team takes them off waiver claims 148 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 2: and then they work out of trade, and so you 149 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: had to do trades in that way. Involving a waiver 150 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 2: in order to get them up to an August thirty 151 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 2: first deadline. So that was a big change in nineteen 152 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 2: eighty six and August thirty first every year became the 153 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 2: de facto deadline for a player needing to play for 154 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 2: the team. If they joined the team after that, they 155 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 2: cannot play in the playoffs, which stands to this day. 156 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 2: Notable trades are in this era, with the Anchores in 157 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 2: two thousand acquiring David Justice and later Glenn Allen Hill 158 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 2: in August. In twenty twelve, the Dodgers got Adrian Gonzalez, 159 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 2: Carl Crawford, and Josh Beckett in Audust Blockbuster all waiver claims. 160 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 2: So you can't really do this anymore, and we will 161 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 2: talk about that in a moment, but Bud Selig was 162 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 2: one of the main guys working through these waiver claims. 163 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 2: All three of these guys were waiverclaim traded at some 164 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 2: point and Bud Selig, who cannot who's pictured here not 165 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 2: being able to hear anything, surprise, was the mastermind behind 166 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 2: that one. The waiver claims then ended in twenty nineteen 167 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 2: under a guy you're going to know. We ended this 168 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 2: system in order to get rid of a system that's 169 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 2: starting to be manipulated so teams could collude and big 170 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 2: players were moving and then money wasn't the issue. It 171 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 2: was the issue before it became not an issue anymore, 172 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 2: and they wanted to get rid of it because teams 173 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 2: were manipulating it and they wanted to increase transparency and 174 00:09:55,760 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: competitive fairness. Okay, so this is twenty nineteen. This was 175 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 2: my favorite cartoon from the era. So I just want 176 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 2: you to take that in for a second. But Rob 177 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 2: Manfred was the guy who brought about the twenty nineteen 178 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 2: rule change that then got rid of the waiver claim. 179 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 2: So now today we sit on a end of July 180 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: maybe first couple days of August hard deadline VERA for trades, 181 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 2: which is what we are working with right now. But 182 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: one new little thing that was put in and worked 183 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 2: through with the PA and this gentleman and this gentleman 184 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 2: they had a PA Tony Clark, got together and they 185 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 2: started to in the same spirit of the adding the 186 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 2: waiver claim added a little flexibility to what that date 187 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 2: could be based on how the season plays out this year. 188 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 2: It just happens to be July thirty first, at six 189 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 2: pm Eastern time, and that is the deadline to have 190 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 2: something in play. I believe there's a little bit wiggle 191 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 2: room on the time of the day. If they get 192 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 2: past a certain point, they're allowed to continue that negotiation 193 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 2: for they can get an extension if they need to. 194 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 2: So that brings us today, and that is what us 195 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 2: as media members and all the fans are looking forward 196 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 2: to see what their team can get to make their 197 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,719 Speaker 2: team better. The next iteration of this is going to 198 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 2: be a free agency deadline. We're gonna hear a lot 199 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 2: about that in the CBA, but that's for another day. 200 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 2: So now teams are prioritized to buy or sell players 201 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 2: a little bit earlier. So this next coming week we 202 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 2: might see some movement because that deadline is so set 203 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 2: in stone and you have to make a decision, and 204 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 2: teams would rather not get into a fourteen betting war 205 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 2: with prospects later. They would like to get the job done. 206 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 2: So that's why we're seeing trades happen a little bit 207 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 2: earlier in July, and that's why we could see some 208 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 2: coming into this next week. So now we all know 209 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 2: where the trade deadline came from. Hopefully that gives you 210 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 2: a little bit more insight, and let's you enjoy this 211 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 2: time of the year a little bit more. Don't forget 212 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 2: to check out Mayday Mondays four pm Eastern time, right 213 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 2: here on the Foul Territory channel, and we will see then. 214 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 3: There is an FT shop. There are significant updates, significant updates. 215 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 3: So we want to just keep letting the people know 216 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 3: baseball the way it should be covered is on a 217 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 3: T shirt. And I better see quite a few orders 218 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 3: on that lightweight hoodie, because you know who you are. 219 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 3: There are many people that sent us notes saying they 220 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 3: want lightweight hoodies, so we got those cooked up special 221 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 3: for you. 222 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 4: Welcome back everybody to foul Territory alongside the great Ken Rosenthal. 223 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 4: I am Alana Rizzo Ken. Everyone's talking about it. What 224 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 4: should we be watching for as the trade deadline looms? 225 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: Separation, Alana, And what I mean by that is teams 226 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: that will maybe fall out of contention, teams that will 227 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 1: start to see themselves more as contenders, teams that are 228 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: on the bubble. Those teams need to decide which way 229 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: they're going. Now we know full well that the buy 230 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: sell equation is not necessarily binary. Some teams will do both, 231 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: and it is simplistic to divide teams into that category 232 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,719 Speaker 1: or those categories. But we do know also that there 233 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: are teams that just are not quite sure where they are, 234 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: Teams that are maybe three and a half four back 235 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: in the wildcard race, Teams that might be in that 236 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: kind of position three and a half four back, but 237 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: think we don't really have a chance to win the 238 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: World Series. So that's what we're looking for over the 239 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: next couple of weeks, teams to define themselves, figure out 240 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: exactly who they are. 241 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 4: Kennedy, al wildcard picture seems to be very muddled. What 242 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 4: do you think happens with that? How do you believe 243 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 4: that plays out? 244 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: I'm not exactly sure, Alana, and a lot will depend 245 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: on the deadline on which teams make moves. Now. The 246 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: Central has a number of teams, the Royals, the Guardians, 247 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: the Twins, those three in particular that can go either way, 248 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: that seemingly have a chance of a wildcard, but you're 249 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: really not sure kind of where they stand. In the East, 250 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: I fully expect Boston to try to go for it. 251 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: Toronto and the Yankees of course are in that position already. 252 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: And in the West, the Mariners are a team that 253 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 1: still want to do some things, still want to win. 254 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: So it's a muddled picture. It's kind of what we're 255 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: getting at here. And I don't know that I expected 256 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: to change. I have not mentioned the Texas Rangers there, 257 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: but they could be two hot weeks away from being 258 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: a team that is a buyer as well. 259 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 4: So much can change over the course of the next 260 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 4: two weeks. Can the Orioles though? Are they a classic should? 261 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 4: What does that mean? 262 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: There are a classic? Should sell? Should sell? That's what 263 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: the should means there, Alana. And yes, they already have 264 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: made the one move before the deadline, the Brian Baker 265 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: trade to the Tampa Bay Rays, a good one because 266 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: it netted them the thirty seventh pick in the draft. 267 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: And you see the list of trade candidates. These are 268 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: just players on expiring contracts, expept for Baker, who has 269 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: three years of club control remaining. Ryan Ohearnt is an 270 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: All Star Loreano Remo Loreano has had a really good 271 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: run for them. Cedric Mowens center fielder, and then some 272 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: right handed pitching starters Charlie Morton and Tomooki Sagano, as 273 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: well as Andrew Kittrids and Sir Anthony Dominguez and then 274 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: on the injured list. Of those, Eflyn is the one 275 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: who likely is coming back. So yes, they're going to 276 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: do some things. They with the trade of Baker identified 277 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: themselves as sellers. We've all been waiting for that. We 278 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: know they're a disappointment. They want controllable starting pitching. Not 279 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: sure they can get it before the deadline. Teams that 280 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: have it don't want to trade it. But the Oriols 281 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: I expect will be active. Yes, somewhat like the Tampa 282 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: Bay Rays were last year when they had that massive 283 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: selloff traded nine players. 284 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 4: Not to say that it's easy to get into the postseason, Kenny, 285 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 4: but it seems like it's an easier pathway in the 286 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 4: American League. The National League seems a much more tough 287 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 4: race in terms of getting to that postseason. With the 288 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 4: amount of teams. Let's talk about NL home field advantage. 289 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 4: Who separates themselves, Well. 290 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: You're talking about the elite teams, Alana, right, and that 291 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: would be the Phillies, the Mets, the Dodgers, the Cubs, 292 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: and maybe even the Brewers in that mix. The Dodgers 293 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: are a team that designed their roster with the intent 294 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: of not overpaying at the deadline, and I don't expect 295 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: them to be terribly active. What they have generally looked 296 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: to do under Andrew Friedman, and this is Friedman's philosophy 297 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: going back to his days with Tampa Bay, is look 298 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: for impact moves. So if they can get an impact 299 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: reliever or an impact bad that would be maybe better 300 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: than what Michael Confordo has given them. Yeah, I can 301 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: see them doing that, but I don't know that they're 302 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: going to do big things. The Phillies, on the other hand, 303 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: have significant needs, need for an outfielder and more importantly, 304 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: need for bullpen help. Yes, Josel Verado is coming back, 305 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: but he'll only be available for the regular season, and yes, 306 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: they can move a starter to the bullpen for the 307 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: postseason the way they have in the past. But I 308 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: don't see them necessarily just sitting and standing there saying 309 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: that's good enough. They can't do that. They know they 310 00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: need bullpen help and they're going to go out and 311 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: get it. 312 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 4: All, right, Ken, So that's what the five contenders in 313 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 4: the National League are looking to add. What about the 314 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 4: American League? You know the Yankees are going to be 315 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 4: in the mix. Toronto's looking good. Obviously, Detroit has kind 316 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 4: of led wire to wire so far this season. What 317 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,360 Speaker 4: are each of those teams missing? What do they need 318 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 4: to compliment what's already a good roster? 319 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: First off, Alana, I expect each of those teams to 320 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: be aggressive. The Yankees' needs are clear. Third base big need, 321 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 1: starting pitcher big need. Two bullpen arms that would be 322 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: a need as well. The Blue Jays I expect to 323 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: be aggressive as well. They don't need much help on 324 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: the offensive side, obviously, if they can find impact, they 325 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: would do that, But on the pitching side, they have 326 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: some short and long term concerns. Max Scherzer and Chris 327 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 1: Bassett are free agents at the end of the year, 328 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: so a controllable starter for them would be outstanding. Gosspin 329 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 1: and Burrios only have one more year after this one, 330 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: and then in the bullpen, I expect Jeff Hoffman to 331 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: be better in the second half. But at the same time, 332 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: a high leverage reliever would be certainly something that the 333 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: Jays would want to add, as well as every other 334 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: team in the mix. Could they go get a left 335 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 1: fielder or someone in the outfield as well, Yes, they could, 336 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 1: but I expect them to be pitching heavy, and then 337 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 1: finally the Tigers, another team that will be pitching heavy. 338 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 1: They seem to have settled on their right handed hitting needs. 339 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: They're okay there, but another starter for sure, and swing 340 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 1: and misrelief pitching is something that they've been looking for 341 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 1: for quite some time. They've got a good pen, but 342 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: they'd love to get a guy in there who can 343 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: just strike out people and do it that way. 344 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 4: And I love the fact that so many extra teams 345 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 4: get into the postseason because it's good for the fan 346 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 4: base and it keeps people interested a lot longer, but 347 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 4: it also muddles the situation in terms of who's going 348 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 4: to buy and who's going to sell. In your time 349 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 4: covering this game, how do you think the wild card 350 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 4: picture and the expansion of the wild card teams has 351 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 4: changed the deadline? 352 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: Exactly what you just said, Alta. It's muddled the picture 353 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 1: and it's forced teams to hold on longer because they 354 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 1: don't want to give up on a season necessarily and 355 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: signal to the fans that you know what, even though 356 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: we're four games out of a wild card, we don't 357 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: feel we can do it. And teams that have done 358 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: that in recent years have gotten heavily criticized, and it's 359 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: just not a healthy way to go about it. Teams 360 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,719 Speaker 1: should be competing. That's the whole point of the sport. 361 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: Compete and get to the playoffs. So while it's muddled 362 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: a picture, it's also made it more interesting in certain 363 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: respects because at times we will see what they call 364 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: baseball trades and what gms and baseball people mean by that. 365 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: What they mean by the term baseball trades is major 366 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 1: league need for major league need, and rather than a 367 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 1: prospect trade in which you're trading a veteran for prospects, 368 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: you're addressing something on the major league roster both ways. 369 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: So it's going to be an interesting deadline. A lot 370 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: of people expect it to be a dud. I don't 371 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 1: know that it will be. Yes, Ralphaeld Devers probably was 372 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: the best player who will be traded. But there is 373 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: always action a lota and I am quite sure there's 374 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: going to be action this time. Yeah. 375 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 4: It's always fun to watch, and I know it's a 376 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 4: busy time the year for you, but from a fan perspective, 377 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 4: it's great. It's like, who's going where, What's going to happen? 378 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 4: Can we appreciate your insight as always, and everybody don't 379 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 4: forget You can catch a brand new fair Territory with 380 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 4: Ken Rosenzaal every Monday at ten am Eastern and also 381 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 4: on Thursdays at twelve thirty pm Eastern, all season long. 382 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 4: Subscribe to the entire Foul Territory Network.